Lufkin invites SLC to play them Week 0

[PackAttack2005]

Lufkin has an open date for Week 0. Coach Outlaw has extended an invitation to Coach Dodge to play zero week, that is if Southlake does not have any other plans that weekend. Maybe it will happen.

[slorch]

on grass?

[t00 playa]

Lufkin has an open date for Week 0. Coach Outlaw has extended an invitation to Coach Dodge to play zero week, that is if Southlake does not have any other plans that weekend. Maybe it will happen.


well if they dont take it.. send the invite to David Aymond at North Shore:eek:

[dragons08]

why spoil a match up that'll happen 15 weeks later?

[Kleinfootball76]

i hope they do except it i would love to see slc loose to lufkin

[LPFAN]

I would love to see this game happen. I would also love for my team to FINALLY beat SLC. But no matter what the outcome I can say the atmosphere is always great. Sure it might not be as ELECTRIFYING as it would be in a playoff setting but it would still be a great matchup between two powerhouse teams. We will see. What is the story over in Southlake? Has anyone heard anything out of the SC camp?

[pack98]

that would be one heck of a pre-season matchup and a very good game. i could see this taking place if we agree to go to SLC. that would be fun. I would get my tickets and fly in for this one all the way from Sunny Sandiego.

this would be a big time matchup. And we shall have the repeat 15 weeks later can football get any better than this?

how about this for a weekend

Katy vs Judson
Lufkin vs SLC
Highland Park Vs. Texas high

Talk about some great football games and thousands of fan's coming out for them

GO PANTHERS

[PackAttack2005]

NorthShore had a full schedule already done, but I don't ever remember Aymond's asking Outlaw to play?

[dragonfootballfan]

I doubt that this game happens for the reason of Carroll's bye week being week 1. Carroll can get a lot more out of having a bye in week zeron than they can in week 1.

[pack4life]

I would love for this game to happen...

I could care less if it were at Dragon Stadium, Abe Martin, or a neutral site...

It would be the most hyped pre-district game of all time...

Lufkin .vs. SLC.. GAME 1..

Of course, all of this won't be possible unless SLC accepts the invitiation, and that is a HUGE ?

[slcsportsfan]

Sorry but this is a bunch of bull. Dodge has said all along that they will not play a "0" week game this year. He is going to have two scrimmages this year. He wants to make sure his new players will be game ready in time for week one. SLC will play Lake Highlands in week 1.

[pack4life]

Sorry but this is a bunch of bull. Dodge has said all along that they will not play a "0" week game this year. He is going to have two scrimmages this year. He wants to make sure his new players will be game ready in time for week one. SLC will play Lake Highlands in week 1.


Are you Todd Dodge?

Then you don't know brotha...

[slcsportsfan]

no but close enough to know... Brotha

[pack4life]

no but close enough to know... Brotha


all im sayin is...

There's a chance,
that is unless you're the man making all the decisions.

[PackAttack2005]

No bull my SLC friend, it is a fact. That call was placed to Coach Dodge today.

I think it would be a good opportunity to let Lufkin get your new season started off right.

[slcsportsfan]

nope. I am not in the decision making process. If you have read some of my other posts, I generally only straighten out stuff that is posted that I know is wrong. In this case, the first poster implies that SLC is thinking about playing or is even entertaining the idea. I'm just letting people know that since the season was over last year, they have not or will not entertain playing a zero week game this coming season. Heck it took SLC until last week to even find someone to play them in week 1 after Coppell tucked tail and ran thus ending a long standing rival game.

[dragonfootballfan]

nope. I am not in the decision making process. If you have read some of my other posts, I generally only straighten out stuff that is posted that I know is wrong. In this case, the first poster implies that SLC is thinking about playing or is even entertaining the idea. I'm just letting people know that since the season was over last year, they have not or will not entertain playing a zero week game this coming season. Heck it took SLC until last week to even find someone to play them in week 1 after Coppell tucked tail and ran thus ending a long standing rival game.
if they have a week 1 game than they are full. It is hard for Lufkin to schedule games because they are far from just about every 5A team and they are very good.

[pack98]

well it is going to be up to coach dodge about this one. my grandfather and many other's in the Lufkin sideliners got the news straight from coach outlaw about playing this game and he called coach dodge. so now the ball is in his court if he want to play this game or not.

if not week 1 or 0 or whatever. then see them in 15 weeks.

GO PANTHERS

[slcsportsfan]

Pack let me help you on this one.

If SLC has their week 1 game scheduled last week. That means they already have 10 games on the books. There is not room for another game, nor are they going to drop Lake Highlands, Evangel, or Rockwall to play a zero week game. Outlaw calling today did nothing more than allow Outlaw to say to people around Lufkin that "he called SLC and they don't want to play us".

I do hope that we are both fortunate enough to be playing in week 15 again. It will be fun to have you come up to Dragon Stadium. I have a lot of friends down there that I would like to have a cold beer with at Po Melvins.

[pack98]

trust me it may not happen but outlaw would not call to ask to play to just say that SLC is scared to play us or whatever we have lost to yall the last 3 years come on now we all are aware that SLC is not scared to play anyone and not the Panthers. we will not think that if this does not happen.

From a viewpoint if i was SLC i would rather play lufkin over Evangel . Evangel looked very bad against Springdale last season and longview put up 52 points on them this is not the same Evangel team in the past they last 2 years they are just a big time name thats about it. sure they may be powers still across the border but when they have gone out and played some others they have looked very bad. lufkin would get a great game and SLc would to and it would be great learning experince for both teams if they played but who knows.

[dragonfootballfan]

trust me it may not happen but outlaw would not call to ask to play to just say that SLC is scared to play us or whatever we have lost to yall the last 3 years come on now we all are aware that SLC is not scared to play anyone and not the Panthers. we will not think that if this does not happen.

From a viewpoint if i was SLC i would rather play lufkin over Evangel . Evangel looked very bad against Springdale last season and longview put up 52 points on them this is not the same Evangel team in the past they last 2 years they are just a big time name thats about it. sure they may be powers still across the border but when they have gone out and played some others they have looked very bad. lufkin would get a great game and SLc would to and it would be great learning experince for both teams if they played but who knows.
Lufkin should have called before Carroll's schedule was full. I think that slcsportsfan is right. Lufkin knew they could not schedule the game because Carroll is full, so what else would your coach have to gain other than being able to say that Carroll is afraid to play us.

[slcsportsfan]

Look Pack... Outlaw wouldn't drop anyone from his non-district schedule a week after he had it completed and neither would Dodge.

Can't argue that Lufkin is miles ahead of playing Evangel. For that matter, Lufkin is better than all the other teams we face year end, year out. But the fact of the matter is SLC's non-district schedule, including Evangel, was done last week. Here is another sad fact that should drive you crazy. The SLC vs. Evangel game is going to be on TV. Tell me that is not going to be ugly. I'll tell you right now I'm heading home at the half.

[dragonfootballfan]

Look Pack... Outlaw wouldn't drop anyone from his non-district schedule a week after he had it completed and neither would Dodge.

Can't argue that Lufkin is miles ahead of playing Evangel. For that matter, Lufkin is better than all the other teams we face year end, year out. But the fact of the matter is SLC's non-district schedule, including Evangel, was done last week. Here is another sad fact that should drive you crazy. The SLC vs. Evangel game is going to be on TV. Tell me that is not going to be ugly. I'll tell you right now I'm heading home at the half.
I stay the entire game. I don't want to have to fight the halftime traffic

[stevefoxsc]

Tivo

[KT2000]

I'd be surprised if this match-up happened in Week 0. I have a hard time believing SLC would agree to it given the inexperience they'll have early on, and also given the numerous returners Lufkin will run out there. Lufkin can start extremely fast with the group of players they have back, and I'd think the Dragons would want to ease this next group into the season so they get some experience.

[drgnbkr]

I think it would be a lot of fun, but probably won't happen....if nothing else, the talk spices up an already great rivalry...as a fan, I like nothing better than the big games with the Pack, Katy, SV, Abilene, etc....lets get together in the playoffs...

[slorch]

I would love to see this game happen. I would also love for my team to FINALLY beat SLC. But no matter what the outcome I can say the atmosphere is always great. Sure it might not be as ELECTRIFYING as it would be in a playoff setting but it would still be a great matchup between two powerhouse teams. We will see. What is the story over in Southlake? Has anyone heard anything out of the SC camp?

A win is still a win, but it would not be nearly as sweet as a playoff win against the dragons. They would have a game the following week too.

[slorch]

Lufkin should have called before Carroll's schedule was full. I think that slcsportsfan is right. Lufkin knew they could not schedule the game because Carroll is full, so what else would your coach have to gain other than being able to say that Carroll is afraid to play us.

i think when you've lost 3 times in a row to a team, there's a little more respct there than for Outlaw to tell Panther Nation that slc is "scared"

[Favpack]

The game makes little sense to me from either perspective. SLC would be facing a buzzsaw in Week 0 as they try to figure out what they have. Lufkin would only be allowing SLC a chance to scheme them twice - IF they met again late in the year when it matters. Throw in a 4 hour bus ride unless you go neutral field - nope - not happening. But, I would personally love to see it - it would be fun.

[slorch]

By neutral you are saying Texas Stadium? LOL

(I couldn't resist)

[PackAttack2005]

The SLC game may not happen, but Lufkin is still looking for a game to play early. No one wants to play Lufkin for a combination of reasons ( good 5A program and travel), however if we don't find someone in the next couple of months we may be looking at playing a 9 game schedule for 2006.
If the SLC matchup doesn't happen early, that's the way it goes I guess. We will just keep looking for someone to play us, someone will step up eventually.

[toonman]

why spoil a match up that'll happen 15 weeks later?

and will be played in Texas Stadium.

[t00 playa]

NorthShore had a full schedule already done, but I don't ever remember Aymond's asking Outlaw to play?


thats why i said for him to extend the invitation to aymond.... :eek:

[thebiggestfan]

that would be one heck of a pre-season matchup and a very good game. i could see this taking place if we agree to go to SLC. that would be fun. I would get my tickets and fly in for this one all the way from Sunny Sandiego.

this would be a big time matchup. And we shall have the repeat 15 weeks later can football get any better than this?

how about this for a weekend

Katy vs Judson
Lufkin vs SLC
Highland Park Vs. Texas high

Talk about some great football games and thousands of fan's coming out for them

GO PANTHERS

And also The Woodlands vs Smithson Valley

[dragonfootballfan]

i think when you've lost 3 times in a row to a team, there's a little more respct there than for Outlaw to tell Panther Nation that slc is "scared"
well what more does Lufkin have to gain when somebody's schedule is already full? Does he think that Carroll should drop one of the opponents that they made an agreement with?

[RidgePride]

I'd be surprised if this match-up happened in Week 0. I have a hard time believing SLC would agree to it given the inexperience they'll have early on, and also given the numerous returners Lufkin will run out there. Lufkin can start extremely fast with the group of players they have back, and I'd think the Dragons would want to ease this next group into the season so they get some experience.
I agree 100% SLC will be most vulnerable early on and I think Lufkin knows that. SLC would be stupid to take that game this early.

[dragonsdaddy]

coach outlaw is getting desperate to fill his sked. there is no way anyone would accuse either team of being scared of the other.

[TheDuke]

Not gonna happen!!

SLC wouldn't risk losing a game that early!

[PackAttack2005]

Outlaw didn't ask Dodge to drop someone to play Lufkin or has implicted Dodge or SLC is afraid to play Lufkin that early in the season and he is not desperate.

There is no truth to those thoughts, plus that is how stupid crap gets started.

Why in the world would Outlaw or Lufkin think SLC would be afraid to play us or do I need to answer that for you.

Outlaw simply ask Dodge if he wanted to play, either they will or they won't and that will be it. Lufkin will find someone else to play.

[TheDuke]

Outlaw didn't ask Dodge to drop someone to play Lufkin or has implicted Dodge or SLC is afraid to play Lufkin that early in the season and he is not desperate.

There is no truth to those thoughts, plus that is how stupid crap gets started.

Why in the world would Outlaw or Lufkin think SLC would be afraid to play us or do I need to answer that for you.

Outlaw simply ask Dodge if he wanted to play, either they will or they won't and that will be it. Lufkin will find someone else to play.

Can you explain how you know this is a bunch of crap?

[LUFPAN]

I stay the entire game. I don't want to have to fight the halftime traffic

Now that's funny.:D

[LUFPAN]

coach outlaw is getting desperate to fill his sked. there is no way anyone would accuse either team of being scared of the other.

The truth in a nutshell. Coach Outlaw calls Coach Dodge just because nobody else will even consider it.

[implacable44]

The truth in a nutshell. Coach Outlaw calls Coach Dodge just because nobody else will even consider it.


no -- but I do believe one of those coaches is scared of the grass. especially when it is a good team on the other side of the ball.

[DrEdward]

no -- but I do believe one of those coaches is scared of the grass. especially when it is a good team on the other side of the ball.


Well, I wasn't going to say anything until this bit of nonsense showed up. Neither coach is afraid of the other team's ability on any surface. If one coach prefers one surface over another, that in no way implies "fear." It simply implies that one team is believed to be more comfortable on one surface than another. Besides, no where was it ever stated where such a game would even be played eveb if it were to occur. These two schools, Lufkin and Carroll have the utmost respect for each other and hopefully they will meet in week 15.

[Sakatha]

no -- but I do believe one of those coaches is scared of the grass. especially when it is a good team on the other side of the ball.

Ya, I couldn't agree more...

I mean, it's obvious that Carroll wouldn't have even mustered so much as a touchdown had they played Lufkin @ Kyle Field.

~DnM

[PackAttack2005]

I don't entirely understand the grass comment. Both Lufkin and Southlake play on field turf at their home stadiums. Lufkin prefers artificial grass to the real thing. If your talking about Kyle Field, that was not an attempt by Outlaw to get SLC on grass, it was just a choice for a neutral site.

Duke, what I was talking about were people implying such ideas as, Outlaw is desperate or SLC is afraid to play Lufkin. No need to make those comments when you don't know the truth. Anyway, both coaches probably have talked today and resolved this entire matter. Whatever they decided was best for both schools.

[TheDuke]

I don't entirely understand the grass comment. Both Lufkin and Southlake play on field turf at their home stadiums. Lufkin prefers artificial grass to the real thing. If your talking about Kyle Field, that was not an attempt by Outlaw to get SLC on grass, it was just a choice for a neutral site.

Duke, what I was talking about were people implying such ideas as, Outlaw is desperate or SLC is afraid to play Lufkin. No need to make those comments when you don't know the truth. Anyway, both coaches probably have talked today and resoved this entire matter. Whatever they decided was best for both schools.


Gotcha!:D

[Sakatha]

I don't entirely understand the grass comment. Both Lufkin and Southlake play on field turf at their home stadiums. Lufkin prefers artificial grass to the real thing. If your talking about Kyle Field, that was not an attempt by Outlaw to get SLC on grass, it was just a choice for a neutral site.

Duke, what I was talking about were people implying such ideas as, Outlaw is desperate or SLC is afraid to play Lufkin. No need to make those comments when you don't know the truth. Anyway, both coaches probably have talked today and resoved this entire matter. Whatever they decided was best for both schools.

Ya, it was pretty asinine for him to make that statement... Lufkin and SLC are twins basically... Whatever.. I chalk it up to blatant jealousy of success... Thankfully, you Panther fans don't ran that kind of trash smack regarding a stupid playing surface...

~DnM

[Slim-Rob]

I doubt that this game happens for the reason of Carroll's bye week being week 1. Carroll can get a lot more out of having a bye in week zeron than they can in week 1.

For the past 2 years we had week 3 as our offweek. We played week 0, 1, and 2 then had a bye week, then played LEE, then SV. It was great to be able to rest before district play.

[drgnbkr]

no -- but I do believe one of those coaches is scared of the grass. especially when it is a good team on the other side of the ball.

Yeah, really..these kids don' need to be smokin any of that wacky weed..both coaches really want to keep em off the grass....:rolleyes:

[dragonfootballfan]

For the past 2 years we had week 3 as our offweek. We played week 0, 1, and 2 then had a bye week, then played LEE, then SV. It was great to be able to rest before district play.
a bye can be beneficial the week before district play or even a late bye week like around week 8 if you have an odd number of teams in district. There is no advantage to have your bye week in week 1. You deprive your team of a scrimmage and are not far enough into the season to rest up and heal your wounds.

[Pack Daddy]

Pack let me help you on this one.

If SLC has their week 1 game scheduled last week. That means they already have 10 games on the books. There is not room for another game, nor are they going to drop Lake Highlands, Evangel, or Rockwall to play a zero week game. Outlaw calling today did nothing more than allow Outlaw to say to people around Lufkin that "he called SLC and they don't want to play us".

I do hope that we are both fortunate enough to be playing in week 15 again. It will be fun to have you come up to Dragon Stadium. I have a lot of friends down there that I would like to have a cold beer with at Po Melvins.

Don't know you but would be happy to drink a couple of cold ones with you before the game (putting you on my friends list!).

[PackAttack2005]

The Pack will not play SLC in non-district, schedules and timing of the offer were off from the beginning. To play was a nice thought, but this will probably work out for both teams in the long run. If we are both lucky, maybe we will get to do this later in the year.

[Ladypack34]

It was a fun thought

[SLCDRGN]

I like that.....Outlaw waits till SLC has their schedule complete and then tells the PackNation that he has called Dodge and (all of a sudden) wants the Dragons to play an 11th game. Why did he not call sooner???? It just doesn't make a lick of sense!!! I am not sure I really believe the story. I firmly believe Outlaw is TOO good of a man to do this just to stick his chest out and try to make PackNation think SLC is afraid of them!! With a 3-0 record against a team, I believe you enter that game with great confidence!!

I certainly hope the PackNation does not think the Dragons will be a patsie in week 15 (assuming they both get there) of the season. Overconfidence will get you beat & beat good!!

[PackAttack2005]

SLCDRGN, Where did you come up with that stupid analogy. We have already discussed there wasn't any motive behind him asking SLC to play, he just needed a game to play, so why not play the best. He asked Dodge late because he could not get anyone else in our area to play us. Get your facts straight before jumping to conclusions.

[SLCDRGN]

PackAttack2005,

I can't believe you are struggling with the following:

Why wait till after SLC has their schedule complete??
Why would Dodge consider playing an 11th game??
Would the UIL would allow an 11th??
Why mouth off to the PackNation about contacting Dodge??

First of all, I think it is crap!! Sounds very Bush-League!!

I think Outlaw has more class than to pull a silly stunt like this!! I don't believe a bit of it. If it is true, I pity the ploy.....Dodge will not play an 11 game schedule and Outlaw should have known it if this stunt was pulled!!

[pack98]

SLCDRGN

outlaw was at the lufkin Sideliner meeting and said that he called dodge to see about playing them that is it. he tried to get Kimbill,carter, jt,lee, and all the 4a teams in our area and they all said No,because they A. did not want to play the panthers, B. there schedule was full, with the panthers playing in a 5 team district it was hard to find teams with a open date on there schedule to play that is why. there is no plot to get the panthernation saying that slc is scared to play us come on yall are 3-0 against us and if we could get that game it would have been great for both teams and seeing were the stenghts and weaknesses for both teams are going in the year. Lufkin may have to play 9 games this season. we are just wating to play someone. So man to man outlaw did ask dodge it came straight from his mouth at the sideliners meeting. we are just trying to find a game to play.


GO PANTHERS

[PackAttack2005]

Hey SLCDRGN, I am not struggling with any of this. Just told the facts as I heard them first hand, I was in that meeting with Coach Outlaw that Pack98 spoke about. Your the one that needs to get a grip on issues, don't make the suggestion I made up this thread, because you don't know anything about me or the circumstances involved, your way off base and out of line.

I see your a slow learner, so for the last time here is the deal. There was no ploy or alternative motive by Outlaw. He simply thought SLC had an open date in week 0 and he was looking for a game, so he made a call to Dodge. That's all there was to this matter.

[DragonWatcher]

excuse SLCDRGN some of can realize that it was just what it was no more, a team trying to find a game to play...

[dragonsdaddy]

i stand by my use of the term desperate in describing why outlaw would call dodge about a game. calling all the 4a teams is obviously a sign of desperation, even if they always play 4a nac. being desperate doesn't denote weakness by the way, but it also doesn't mean you are working with a strong hand either. gl to lp and their fans, my second favorite team and fandom.

[Ladypack34]

Coach Outlaw cant do anything right by you Southlake people huh?

[dragonsdaddy]

Coach Outlaw cant do anything right by you Southlake people huh?
au contrare, i love most everything coach outlaw does. it's the rumor-mongers who decide to overblow an action and make asinine assumptions that just fly in the face of reality.

[Ladypack34]

au contrare, i love most everything coach outlaw does. it's the rumor-mongers who decide to overblow an action and make asinine assumptions that just fly in the face of reality.


Coach Outlaw is awesome! I love that guy....

[eaglefan4life]

why spoil a match up that'll happen 15 weeks later?
are u saying that yall won't be upseted i know yall haven't lost but 1 game but still any thing can happen

[dragons08]

are u saying that yall won't be upseted i know yall haven't lost but 1 game but still any thing can happen
anything can happen i know..just a little trashtalk/jokin around, its my style

[Ladypack34]

anything can happen i know..just a little trashtalk/jokin around, its my style


dont let him lie to you...he has no style..none what so ever

[dragonsdaddy]

are u saying that yall won't be upseted i know yall haven't lost but 1 game but still any thing can happen
i think the idea was that were we both to get to the semi's it'd be a great scenario. we both have gotten to enjoy playing those fine december afternoons.

[dragons08]

dont let him lie to you...he has no style..none what so ever
and the jealousy sets in..

[dragonsdaddy]

dont let him lie to you...he has no style..none what so ever
he has as much style as any other 16 yo kid, none- you are right.

[dragons08]

i think the idea was that were we both to get to the semi's it'd be a great scenario. we both have gotten to enjoy playing those fine december afternoons.
exactly, some people cant handle a joke or wrap their head around one i guess

[dragons08]

he has as much style as any other 16 yo kid, none- you are right.
what is this rip on d08 day?

[Ladypack34]

he has as much style as any other 16 yo kid, none- you are right.


well im 16...and i have style...

[dragons08]

well im 16...and i have style...
march 30th, 1990, is not 16..:D

[Ladypack34]

march 30th, 1990, is not 16..:D


im just gettin used to sayin it...im almost there so i might as well say 16

[slorch]

I figured the zero week might help end the issue with only 5 dist games. LP needs a quality opponent in nonconference, because after the Woodlands, there's NOBODY in district!
it might end up being a LA school or maybe Collerain would come calling from Cincy. They're probably overconfident now anyway.
It would be interesting to play one of the big powers from FLA or CA, but even that's an issue without a major airport close by.

I just want LP to have some challenges in the reg season before the playoffs.

[Lobo9498]

I don't think Colerain is able to come out of the Ohio area. I think they are only allowed to travel to the bordering states, if that, and no further. I'd love to see them get a taste of a consistently, as of the last 7 years, good team from Texas. They'd go back licking their wounds, instead of licking their chops after last year.

[eaglefan4life]

anything can happen i know..just a little trashtalk/jokin around, its my style
just like a sophomore

[Miss Kitty]

dont let him lie to you...he has no style..none what so ever


Actually D08 has a great deal of style. And is a great asset to this board.

[dragons08]

Actually D08 has a great deal of style. And is a great asset to this board.
yah here that haley?? thats right, d08 has style :cool:

[Ladypack34]

yah here that haley?? thats right, d08 has style :cool:


lol ok whatever...i still say none what-so-ever!