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Mad Hatter
02-06-2006, 07:18 PM
With rumors floating around about UTSA getting a football team and about A&M building a campus here in SA do u think it would be good for SA football. I mean i know a lot of kids get over looked from here so if we had some D3 colleges u ugys think it would be kinda cool ?
wide-e-wide
02-06-2006, 07:22 PM
Let me get this straight........
aggy is coming to town...and you are asking if this is a good thing?
Mad Hatter
02-06-2006, 07:25 PM
more so about UTSA getting a football team but if aggs get one to that might be kinda cool it will be a mini rivalry and one more place for texas to beat them at.
Slim-Rob
02-06-2006, 07:55 PM
more so about UTSA getting a football team but if aggs get one to that might be kinda cool it will be a mini rivalry and one more place for texas to beat them at.
I think they are, but I'm not sure.
LoneRocket
02-06-2006, 08:05 PM
With rumors floating around about UTSA getting a football team and about A&M building a campus here in SA do u think it would be good for SA football. I mean i know a lot of kids get over looked from here so if we had some D3 colleges u ugys think it would be kinda cool ?
It would be cool UTSA would play in the Southland conference and it would give more South Texans a chance to play on another level.
Mad Hatter
02-06-2006, 08:22 PM
yeah if they got teams they would play against Texas State and the crew.
BigArab
02-06-2006, 08:28 PM
According to the administration at UTSA, they would hop right into D-1 in C-USA. Any kind of A&M campus will be rather small.
Either way, I'm getting excited about some college football in San An that is less than a mile from my house.
jtk1519
02-06-2006, 08:35 PM
The San Antonio area does not produce Div. 1A talent in my opinion. It would be a good home for a Div. 1AA program and could probably start a great instant rivalry with Texas State just down the road.
Also, the NCAA has a lot of standards you have to meet to play in Div. 1A. I don't think they would allow UTSA to just show up and start playing Div. 1A ball. You have to have a certain stadium size, money for scholarships lined up and you have to average a certain attendance to be admitted into Div. 1A football. UTSA has an average attendance of 0 so I don't think that would fly. I think you have to average like 15,000-20,000 a game in order to play Div. 1A ball. My best firend and his wife are currently at UTSA and they both say there is no way a football team there would draw 5,000 right off the bat.
BTW, aggy coming to town can in no possible way be misconstrued as a "good thing."
LoneRocket
02-06-2006, 08:53 PM
The San Antonio area does not produce Div. 1A talent in my opinion. It would be a good home for a Div. 1AA program and could probably start a great instant rivalry with Texas State just down the road.
Also, the NCAA has a lot of standards you have to meet to play in Div. 1A. I don't think they would allow UTSA to just show up and start playing Div. 1A ball. You have to have a certain stadium size, money for scholarships lined up and you have to average a certain attendance to be admitted into Div. 1A football. UTSA has an average attendance of 0 so I don't think that would fly. I think you have to average like 15,000-20,000 a game in order to play Div. 1A ball. My best firend and his wife are currently at UTSA and they both say there is no way a football team there would draw 5,000 right off the bat.
BTW, aggy coming to town can in no possible way be misconstrued as a "good thing."
That is why I mention playing in the Southland Conference and besides they would also find players across the country.
RedRage00
02-06-2006, 10:14 PM
The San Antonio area does not produce Div. 1A talent in my opinion. It would be a good home for a Div. 1AA program and could probably start a great instant rivalry with Texas State just down the road.
Also, the NCAA has a lot of standards you have to meet to play in Div. 1A. I don't think they would allow UTSA to just show up and start playing Div. 1A ball. You have to have a certain stadium size, money for scholarships lined up and you have to average a certain attendance to be admitted into Div. 1A football. UTSA has an average attendance of 0 so I don't think that would fly. I think you have to average like 15,000-20,000 a game in order to play Div. 1A ball. My best firend and his wife are currently at UTSA and they both say there is no way a football team there would draw 5,000 right off the bat.
BTW, aggy coming to town can in no possible way be misconstrued as a "good thing."
He is right on a lot of things. They cannot just jump into Division I. They have to prove a lot of things. One is the attendance. It has to average 15,000 for so many games.
No offense to your friend and his wife, but I think football can surivive at UTSA. UTSA is currently studying putting football into play and a possible date for starting has been rumored by 2010.
Are your friends NIGHT or DAY students? That makes a HUGE difference in why they feel that way. I go to UTSA at night working on my Masters degree so I hardly see what goes on during the day....but I have friends that go during the day that say its mad crazy with excitement. UTSA has 27,000 students and its growing. It is becoming a more traditional campus and I feel within the next 10 years or so it will be a pretty good place to be.
I would support UTSA football when it does happen! And I know many others would too. Students at UTSA WANT football. Or they would not be studying about it. The student newspaper has had several polls/articles supporting this. I know its not scientific but it shows that students want it.
SA needs football!
GO RUNNERS! :D
BigArab
02-07-2006, 12:55 AM
Recheck everything guys. Football team will be ready by 2008. The feasibility and budget report will be ready in march, the student body will pass a referendum to raise school fees a bit to start the budget. In that time, budgeting will take place to make room for another female sport. This referendum will allow for the scholarships. The stadium is in the next phase of building. As far as D-1 goes, Texas State will probably be moving in to C-USA in the next couple of years (I'm not sure when their contract with Southland is up). Either way, the University is also pursuing the possibility of using the Alamodome for a while. The problem is whether the city would allow students to get in free. Either way, this is all from the administration. If you yourself would like to know more about it, I learned a lot of stuff from Student Government at UTSA. Give them a call.
jtk1519
02-07-2006, 02:14 AM
No offense to your friend and his wife, but I think football can surivive at UTSA. UTSA is currently studying putting football into play and a possible date for starting has been rumored by 2010.
Are your friends NIGHT or DAY students? That makes a HUGE difference in why they feel that way. I go to UTSA at night working on my Masters degree so I hardly see what goes on during the day....but I have friends that go during the day that say its mad crazy with excitement. UTSA has 27,000 students and its growing. It is becoming a more traditional campus and I feel within the next 10 years or so it will be a pretty good place to be.
They are both day students. In fact they live in a UTSA apartment complex just off of Babcock. They have both said that there is some excitement on campus, but it has to go way beyond that. There has to be a strong following among alumni in the area and just ordinary people in the area. That is why they think it will never go beyond Div. 1AA.
I'm sure student support would be strong initially, but could that support hold and even gain say a decade after the program starts? That is what the NCAA will look at. The big concern is that the program will be hot out of the starting gate, but fear is that support will drop after the novelty wears off. You have to remember, UTSA is still primarily a commuter campus and commuter campuses tend to have trouble with things like this.
BigArab
02-07-2006, 09:04 AM
They are both day students. In fact they live in a UTSA apartment complex just off of Babcock. They have both said that there is some excitement on campus, but it has to go way beyond that. There has to be a strong following among alumni in the area and just ordinary people in the area. That is why they think it will never go beyond Div. 1AA.
I'm sure student support would be strong initially, but could that support hold and even gain say a decade after the program starts? That is what the NCAA will look at. The big concern is that the program will be hot out of the starting gate, but fear is that support will drop after the novelty wears off. You have to remember, UTSA is still primarily a commuter campus and commuter campuses tend to have trouble with things like this.
The feasibility report includes all that.
RedRage00
02-08-2006, 01:27 PM
Recheck everything guys. Football team will be ready by 2008. The feasibility and budget report will be ready in march, the student body will pass a referendum to raise school fees a bit to start the budget. In that time, budgeting will take place to make room for another female sport. This referendum will allow for the scholarships. The stadium is in the next phase of building. As far as D-1 goes, Texas State will probably be moving in to C-USA in the next couple of years (I'm not sure when their contract with Southland is up). Either way, the University is also pursuing the possibility of using the Alamodome for a while. The problem is whether the city would allow students to get in free. Either way, this is all from the administration. If you yourself would like to know more about it, I learned a lot of stuff from Student Government at UTSA. Give them a call.
I hope so. I think it would be good :D
RedRage00
02-08-2006, 01:28 PM
They are both day students. In fact they live in a UTSA apartment complex just off of Babcock. They have both said that there is some excitement on campus, but it has to go way beyond that. There has to be a strong following among alumni in the area and just ordinary people in the area. That is why they think it will never go beyond Div. 1AA.
I'm sure student support would be strong initially, but could that support hold and even gain say a decade after the program starts? That is what the NCAA will look at. The big concern is that the program will be hot out of the starting gate, but fear is that support will drop after the novelty wears off. You have to remember, UTSA is still primarily a commuter campus and commuter campuses tend to have trouble with things like this.
I understand what you're saying. I just hope UTSA can pull it off. I think it could be a good thing for the school and SA.
RR
Mad Hatter
02-08-2006, 01:58 PM
i agree completley...it would give our kids a place to go and show what they can do.
LoneRocket
02-08-2006, 09:45 PM
They are both day students. In fact they live in a UTSA apartment complex just off of Babcock. They have both said that there is some excitement on campus, but it has to go way beyond that. There has to be a strong following among alumni in the area and just ordinary people in the area. That is why they think it will never go beyond Div. 1AA.
I'm sure student support would be strong initially, but could that support hold and even gain say a decade after the program starts? That is what the NCAA will look at. The big concern is that the program will be hot out of the starting gate, but fear is that support will drop after the novelty wears off. You have to remember, UTSA is still primarily a commuter campus and commuter campuses tend to have trouble with things like this.
I think if there is consistent winning and affordable ticket prices and most important if there are hardly any conflicts with local high school games they will become successful. You have to target the alumni and adult population to help make it successful.
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