Region 4 top 15?

[SeguinMatadors]

I know it is early... but now that realignment is out... lets see your top 15??

[Mad Hatter]

not sure about region 4 but im pretty sure that the Sa top 5 will look wilol have the following teams in it. NOt by order of 1st to 5th just naming them

O'Connor
Judson
Sv
Chruchill
Regean or Seguin

[SeguinMatadors]

not sure about region 4 but im pretty sure that the Sa top 5 will look wilol have the following teams in it. NOt by order of 1st to 5th just naming them

O'Connor
Judson
Sv
Chruchill
Regean or Seguin

I think you are right.

O'Connor is going to have another solid season.

Judson and Smithson Valley will always be up there although I think it is going to take a few games for Judson to get on a roll with all of the talent they lost.

With Fanuzzi, Churchill can beat anyone as they proved last year.

Reagan and Seguin both have a lot of talent coming back and are programs on the rise.


I think Madison is going to have a down year....Madison lost Caflisch and Green and those guys were their main threats. I don't see them as more than a 4 seed in 26.

[SeguinMatadors]

not sure about region 4

Other than Westlake and Seguin, I really don't see any top ten teams outside of 26 and 27 5a.

San Marcos always has a chance to win some games because of their style of play... but they lost a whole lot.

I am pretty sure either Austin High or Bowie will emerge as a pretty good team... maybe both.

[Mad Hatter]

o'connor wil lthe #1 team in Sa at the begining of next year there whople team is coming back they wew all Sophs and juniors there gonna make some noise.

[Pantherfan12]

One more to watch will be Jay....Last year they were fast...and young. You nailed the rest of the rest of the teams...

[DiamondJ2]

Possibly, MacArthur, but they have a tendency to fade.

[KT2000]

Jay looks good to me with what they have back. They return more all-district picks than any other team in Region 4 that I've checked out so far.

O'Connor aslo returns a lot as most have pointed out. Judson and SV are basically givens to be in the top five until the other teams prove they shouldn't be.

[SVite]

o'connor wil lthe #1 team in Sa at the begining of next year there whople team is coming back they wew all Sophs and juniors there gonna make some noise.

huh?:confused:

[mad_fan]

I love you guys.

[Mad Hatter]

O'Connor will be ranked #1 at the begining of the year becasue of so much returning

I figure the rest of the list will look something like this

2: Sv
3: CJ
4:Churchill
5: Seguin or Regean

[RedRage00]

Ok, I can't wait for the season already :D

[badger95]

1. Smithson Valley
2. Westlake
3. Judson
4. Jay
5. Churchill
6. O'Connor
7. Reagan
8. Madison
9. Victoria Memorial
10. Austin (sleeper)
11. McAllen Memorial (Brandon Stephens)
12. Seguin
13. CC Carroll
14. Warren
15. La Joya


Of course, the most of 26-5A who doesn't make the playoffs would probably beat 9-15.

[Mad Hatter]

that top 15 looks pretty solid all those teams u have there iwould have as well in a different order but the same.

Your probably right about the teams from 265a being able to beat 9-15

[badger95]

that top 15 looks pretty solid all those teams u have there iwould have as well in a different order but the same.

Your probably right about the teams from 265a being able to beat 9-15

Yeah, I'm not so hot on the teams in Corpus and the Valley, but I was thinking of probable playoff teams and then ranking from there.

[Mad Hatter]

we all the know that the top teams in region 4 are from austin and Sa only lol

[PantherFan70]

http://media.putfile.com/OConnor-Football

O'Connor Highlights from last years Young team. I can't wait until this season starts! Look for the ol' Hook and lateral play against Warren, That was sweet! :D

[SeguinMatadors]

1. Smithson Valley
2. Westlake
3. Judson
4. Jay
5. Churchill
6. O'Connor
7. Reagan
8. Madison
9. Victoria Memorial
10. Austin (sleeper)
11. McAllen Memorial (Brandon Stephens)
12. Seguin
13. CC Carroll
14. Warren
15. La Joya


Of course, the most of 26-5A who doesn't make the playoffs would probably beat 9-15.

MacAurthur doesn't even make your list? CC Carroll, Warren, and La Joya do? MacAurther is a good team.

Seguin behind McAllen Memorial, Victoria Memorial, Austin High, and Madison? That is just insane. The only one you could make an argument for is Madison.

I think Westlake is much too high.

1)Smithson Valley
2)O'Connor
3)Jay
4)Judson
5) Westlake
6-8) Seguin, Reagan, Churchill (Interchangeable... I can't make up my mind)
9) MacAurther
10)Austin High
11) San Marcos
12) Madison
13) Bowie
14) McAllen Memorial
15) Valley schools and Corpus Christi schools do not and will not matter.

[Mad Hatter]

MacAurthur doesn't even make your list? CC Carroll, Warren, and La Joya do? MacAurther is a good team.

Seguin behind McAllen Memorial, Victoria Memorial, Austin High, and Madison? That is just insane. The only one you could make an argument for is Madison.

I think Westlake is much too high.

1)Smithson Valley
2)O'Connor
3)Jay
4)Judson
5) Westlake
6-8) Seguin, Reagan, Churchill (Interchangeable... I can't make up my mind)
9) MacAurther
10)Austin High
11) San Marcos
12) Madison
13) Bowie
14) McAllen Memorial
15) Valley schools and Corpus Christi schools do not and will not matter.


ill agree with 15 lol

[Gridiron Gopher]

MacAurthur doesn't even make your list? CC Carroll, Warren, and La Joya do? MacAurther is a good team.

Seguin behind McAllen Memorial, Victoria Memorial, Austin High, and Madison? That is just insane. The only one you could make an argument for is Madison.

I think Westlake is much too high.

1)Smithson Valley
2)O'Connor
3)Jay
4)Judson
5) Westlake
6-8) Seguin, Reagan, Churchill (Interchangeable... I can't make up my mind)
9) MacAurther
10)Austin High
11) San Marcos
12) Madison
13) Bowie
14) McAllen Memorial
15) Valley schools and Corpus Christi schools do not and will not matter.

Ok, getting some love from Seguin. Mac will be in the thick of the 265a chase. They return 13 starters and 2 starters due to injury

Starters from 2005
QB Schmid (Through 5 games until injury, he had better #s then Udell)
RB Craig
RB Sharaim
WR Odom
TE Williamson (will go both ways at DE this year)
OL Armstrong
OL Williams
OL Shussler (out after 4th game)

DL Johnson (out after Clark game)
DL Perez
DE Hickman
LB Gallegos (had to play DT due to injuries)
LB Mondragon
LB/DB Kinney
LB/DB Ricker brothers

Players not in starting rotation but had plenty of playing time.
WR Loftin (played in 3/4wr sets)
DB Brown

[Reaganrattler07]

Ok, getting some love from Seguin. Mac will be in the thick of the 265a chase. They return 13 starters and 2 starters due to injury

Starters from 2005
QB Schmid (Through 5 games until injury, he had better #s then Udell)
RB Craig
RB Sharaim
WR Odom
TE Williamson (will go both ways at DE this year)
OL Armstrong
OL Williams
OL Shussler (out after 4th game)

DL Johnson (out after Clark game)
DL Perez
DE Hickman
LB Gallegos (had to play DT due to injuries)
LB Mondragon
LB/DB Kinney
LB/DB Ricker brothers

Players not in starting rotation but had plenty of playing time.
WR Loftin (played in 3/4wr sets)
DB Brown

I think part of their problem was switching QBs on every drive....Is #21 comming back? I remember he was the only one that could catch Greg during the game.

[LoneRocket]

1. Smithson Valley
2. Westlake
3. Judson
4. Jay
5. Churchill
6. O'Connor
7. Reagan
8. Madison
9. Victoria Memorial
10. Austin (sleeper)
11. McAllen Memorial (Brandon Stephens)
12. Seguin
13. CC Carroll
14. Warren
15. La Joya


Of course, the most of 26-5A who doesn't make the playoffs would probably beat 9-15.
You have to consider Bastrop the Austin schools are not consistent I do not think any of their 5A schools made the playoffs last year.

[Gridiron Gopher]

I think part of their problem was switching QBs on every drive....Is #21 comming back? I remember he was the only one that could catch Greg during the game.

Yes Kinney (#21) will be back and yes the rotating QB was a mess if you ask me. Schmid will be the man with no one taking reps away.

[Reaganrattler07]

Yes Kinney (#21) will be back and yes the rotating QB was a mess if you ask me. Schmid will be the man with no one taking reps away.

Yeah, Kinney's pretty quick. Of the few games I saw of Mac, i always though Schmid was the better one. Should be some good games next year. Hey, is the Mac running back....Craig (i think)....he comming back?

[Gridiron Gopher]

Yeah, Kinney's pretty quick. Of the few games I saw of Mac, i always though Schmid was the better one. Should be some good games next year. Hey, is the Mac running back....Craig (i think)....he comming back?
Here's the staters from this year's team that will be back. Yes Craig is back as well.

Starters from 2005
QB Schmid (Through 5 games until injury, he had better #s then Udell)
RB Craig
RB Sharaim
WR Odom
TE Williamson (will go both ways at DE this year)
OL Armstrong
OL Williams
OL Shussler (out after 4th game)

DL Johnson (out after Clark game)
DL Perez
DE Hickman
LB Gallegos (had to play DT due to injuries)
LB Mondragon
LB/DB Kinney
LB/DB Ricker brothers

[Slim-Rob]

26-5A is going to be a huge tossup next year. I see no clear cut winner, with SV and Judson reloading, Madison lost Caflish and Green, Wagner is new, Mac could be good but they fade out quick, Reagan IMHO will make the playoffs for the first time ever, Roosevelt could be good and I am wondering if Sr RB Zach Dorsey will make a big impact. I played Jr. High football with him at Kirby. Churchill, if Fanuzzi stays healthy should put up a good fight.

I don't see any undefeated teams coming out of the 26-5 next year.

[Reaganrattler07]

Here's the staters from this year's team that will be back. Yes Craig is back as well.

Starters from 2005
QB Schmid (Through 5 games until injury, he had better #s then Udell)
RB Craig
RB Sharaim
WR Odom
TE Williamson (will go both ways at DE this year)
OL Armstrong
OL Williams
OL Shussler (out after 4th game)

DL Johnson (out after Clark game)
DL Perez
DE Hickman
LB Gallegos (had to play DT due to injuries)
LB Mondragon
LB/DB Kinney
LB/DB Ricker brothers

Should be an interesting year....all of them seniors or are there a miz of Seniors and Juniors?

[Reaganrattler07]

26-5A is going to be a huge tossup next year. I see no clear cut winner, with SV and Judson reloading, Madison lost Caflish and Green, Wagner is new, Mac could be good but they fade out quick, Reagan IMHO will make the playoffs for the first time ever, Roosevelt could be good and I am wondering if Sr RB Zach Dorsey will make a big impact. I played Jr. High football with him at Kirby. Churchill, if Fanuzzi stays healthy should put up a good fight.

I don't see any undefeated teams coming out of the 26-5 next year.

Yeah, I kinda agree with that. Should be very interesting....now every team will have to play their guts out every week (with the loss of Lee)

[Gridiron Gopher]

All but one will be seniors.

[Slim-Rob]

Yeah, I kinda agree with that. Should be very interesting....now every team will have to play their guts out every week (with the loss of Lee)

It's gonna be one crazy season. Wouldn't a sweet top four be Wagner, Judson, SV, and Reagan, in no particular order. I doubt it though.

[RGVBadBoy]

1. Smithson Valley
2. Churchill
3. Jay
4. Judson
5. Westlake
6. O'Connor
7. Madison
8. Reagan
9. LaJoya
10. Laredo United
11. McAllen Memorial
12. Victoria Memorial
13. CC Carroll
14. Seguin
15. Harlingen South

and Seguin Matadors....FINALLY YA'LL WIN SOME GAMES the last couple of seasons and ya'll are GODS GIFT TO REGION 4 OR WHAT!??!!??!? WHAT EVER BRO win a play off game FOR ONCE!!!!!.....come play LaJoya or Corpus Christi Carrol...then TALK...

LaJoya RETURNS one of the BIGGEST OLines in the STATE, plus an 1,900yrd RUSHER

[SeguinMatadors]

1. Smithson Valley
2. Churchill
3. Jay
4. Judson
5. Westlake
6. O'Connor
7. Madison
8. Reagan
9. LaJoya
10. Laredo United
11. McAllen Memorial
12. Victoria Memorial
13. CC Carroll
14. Seguin
15. Harlingen South

and Seguin Matadors....FINALLY YA'LL WIN SOME GAMES the last couple of seasons and ya'll are GODS GIFT TO REGION 4 OR WHAT!??!!??!? WHAT EVER BRO win a play off game FOR ONCE!!!!!.....come play LaJoya or Corpus Christi Carrol...then TALK...

LaJoya RETURNS one of the BIGGEST OLines in the STATE, plus an 1,900yrd RUSHER

I didn't imply Seguin was "Gods gift to region 4"... I had them ranked between 6 and 8. If you knew what Seguin had returning, you would realize that isn't far fetched at all. Maybe the best defense in the area last year is going to be MUCH better this year. The offense is going to be improved too. I think that in itself makes Seguin a threat and a top team.... (Note: I posted this later in the thread I just thought I would add it here too)

You are nothing more than a joke to me. I created this thread and I kick you out of it.

[RGVBadBoy]

LOL....what part upset you?!?!!? the part where i said for you to win a playoff game!??!?! yeah, i figured....it MUST SUCK TO NEVER MAKE IT OUT OF THE 1st ROUND....EVEN WHEN YA'LL PLAY THE 3rd seed?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAH:D

PS....im not leavin'

[Reaganrattler07]

LOL....what part upset you?!?!!? the part where i said for you to win a playoff game!??!?! yeah, i figured....it MUST SUCK TO NEVER MAKE IT OUT OF THE 1st ROUND....EVEN WHEN YA'LL PLAY THE 3rd seed?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAH:D

PS....im not leavin'

Aren't you from the valley? When was the last time the valley actually went deep into the playoffs?

[RGVBadBoy]

well, we go to the 3rd round EVERY SEASON....when was the LAST TIME Seguin made it past the 1st ROUND!??!?!?!

[Reaganrattler07]

It's gonna be one crazy season. Wouldn't a sweet top four be Wagner, Judson, SV, and Reagan, in no particular order. I doubt it though.

That wouldn't be too bad :D

[Reaganrattler07]

well, we go to the 3rd round EVERY SEASON....when was the LAST TIME Seguin made it past the 1st ROUND!??!?!?!

That was quick....who do you all play in the 1st and 2nd?

[RGVBadBoy]

not that the 3rd round is DEEP, but its deeper than Reagan has EVER BEEN....and its DEEPER than Seguin will EVER GO!!!!

[Reaganrattler07]

not that the 3rd round is DEEP, but its deeper than Reagan has EVER BEEN....and its DEEPER than Seguin will EVER GO!!!!

Maybe if Seguin played cupcakes in the first two rounds, then they'd be in the same boat, but they play the best in the Region. As for Reagan....their future's ahead of them.

[RGVBadBoy]

That was quick....who do you all play in the 1st and 2nd?
does it matter....we lose to the SAME TEAMS that EVERYONE LOSES TOO....Judson seems to dismantle EVERYONE!!!! so does SmithsonValley....Madison....ya'll lose to them too....so i wouldnt be questioning our competition..

[Reaganrattler07]

does it matter....we lose to the SAME TEAMS that EVERYONE LOSES TOO....Judson seems to dismantle EVERYONE!!!! so does SmithsonValley....Madison....ya'll lose to them too....so i wouldnt be questioning our competition..

At least we don't lose by the scores of 66-7 or something like that....

Your competition isn't as good as that of teams in San Antonio....even you have to realize that.

[RGVBadBoy]

Maybe if Seguin played cupcakes in the first two rounds, then they'd be in the same boat, but they play the best in the Region. As for Reagan....their future's ahead of them.
i got NO PROBLEM with Reagan, they've made their STRIDES..plus they playin the toughest District in the STATE...Seguin DOES NOT....YET HOMEBOY is talking smack....I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM PLAY LaJoya....BY THE WAY....LaJoya plays Warren in WEEK 1....so we'lll see just how weak the RGV is...K?!:D

[SeguinMatadors]

LOL....what part upset you?!?!!? the part where i said for you to win a playoff game!??!?! yeah, i figured....it MUST SUCK TO NEVER MAKE IT OUT OF THE 1st ROUND....EVEN WHEN YA'LL PLAY THE 3rd seed?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAH:D

PS....im not leavin'

No team in the trashy Valley or Corpus could hold our jock, like it. There is not a team in the Valley or Corpus that would make the playoffs in 25, 26, or 27 5a.

I suspended you from my thread because you obviously know nothing about region 4 football... which pretty much makes you unwelcome.

[Reaganrattler07]

i got NO PROBLEM with Reagan, they've made their STRIDES..plus they playin the toughest District in the STATE...Seguin DOES NOT....YET HOMEBOY is talking smack....I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM PLAY LaJoya....BY THE WAY....LaJoya plays Warren in WEEK 1....so we'lll see just how weak the RGV is...K?!:D

You had me goin' last year on Harlingen....and we all knew how that turned out. And I don't recall seeing you after that game:D

But that should be a decent test for LaJoya...we'll see.

But I do agree that 25-5A isn't exactly the toughest thing around....but it's third in the Region.

[SeguinMatadors]

i got NO PROBLEM with Reagan, they've made their STRIDES..plus they playin the toughest District in the STATE...Seguin DOES NOT....YET HOMEBOY is talking smack....I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM PLAY LaJoya....BY THE WAY....LaJoya plays Warren in WEEK 1....so we'lll see just how weak the RGV is...K?!:D

Warren? Are you serious? Warren isn't a top 10 team in SA and they will dismantle you.

Don't call me a "homeboy"... I am white.. and not ghetto.

So this doesn't get misconstrued as racism... I will add this on why I don't want to be called a "Homeboy" Dictionary says... "A fellow male gang member."

[Reaganrattler07]

Warren? Are you serious? Warren isn't a top 10 team in SA and they will dismantle you.

Don't call me a "homeboy"... I am white.. and not ghetto.

Careful....you can get called a racist for something like that....

[Reaganrattler07]

But Warren's got a good coach in Dausin. But they did drop off a little bit last year....they'll probably be up next year.

[RGVBadBoy]

SV 56 Laredo United and Madison 31 PSJA 7.....THEN SV went and KILLED Madison 50 to 20!!!! so WHO GAVE THE BETTER GAME?!?!?

as far as you SeguinMatador...what do you know of the RGV you RACIST IDIOT?!?!!? OBVIOUSLY NOT VERY MUCH...to call us MINIS?!??! your a IGNORANT FOOL!!!! i PROMISE YOU....you wouldnt be talking like that if ya'll played us....LaJoya would TOWER OVER YA'LL....Their OLine AVERAGES 6'3 285...BUT WE'RE MINIS RIGHT?!!!?!?!

[SeguinMatadors]

You had me goin' last year on Harlingen....and we all knew how that turned out. And I don't recall seeing you after that game:D

But I do agree that 25-5A isn't exactly the toughest thing around....but it's third in the Region.

Oh, so this Valley joke is a fairweather fan, too?

25 5a just got a lot better due to realignment... Westlake is always a really good team, San Marcos is always good, Seguin will be stacked next year, Bowie always has athletes, and supposedly Austin High is going to be pretty good.

[RGVBadBoy]

Don't call me a "homeboy"... I am white.. and not ghetto.
sorry....NEXT TIME i'll call you "HILLBILLY"....k pumpkin......

"F"ing LOSER!!!!:mad:

[RGVBadBoy]

Oh, so this Valley joke is a fairweather fan, too?

25 5a just got a lot better due to realignment... Westlake is always a really good team, San Marcos is always good, Seguin will be stacked next year, Bowie always has athletes, and supposedly Austin High is going to be pretty good.
NO, im NOT from Harlingen....i'm from Sharyland....THE WHITEST SCHOOL IN THE RGV!!!! but i'm NO RACIST....like YOU!!!!

[SeguinMatadors]

SV 56 Laredo United and Madison 31 PSJA 7.....THEN SV went and KILLED Madison 50 to 20!!!! so WHO GAVE THE BETTER GAME?!?!?

as far as you SeguinMatador...what do you know of the RGV you RACIST IDIOT?!?!!? OBVIOUSLY NOT VERY MUCH...to call us MINIS?!??! your a IGNORANT FOOL!!!! i PROMISE YOU....you wouldnt be talking like that if ya'll played us....LaJoya would TOWER OVER YA'LL....Their OLine AVERAGES 6'3 285...BUT WE'RE MINIS RIGHT?!!!?!?!

Valley teams are full of Hispanics; Hispanics are just naturally smaller than black and white people... threrefore they are small teams. they La Joya may have a big o-line, but the team is a joke... I mean, they got hammered by Harlingen.:p

[SeguinMatadors]

Careful....you can get called a racist for something like that....

Edit.

[RGVBadBoy]

why dont you NOT go to a SCHOOL with a MASCOT that is a "MEXICAN" name....why dont you try going to an ALL WHITE SCHOOL...maybe you'd be happier?!?!?! oh and JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION.....have you checked Judson's Roster?!?!?! half of them are "SMALL MEXICANS"

[Reaganrattler07]

SV 56 Laredo United and Madison 31 PSJA 7.....THEN SV went and KILLED Madison 50 to 20!!!! so WHO GAVE THE BETTER GAME?!?!?

as far as you SeguinMatador...what do you know of the RGV you RACIST IDIOT?!?!!? OBVIOUSLY NOT VERY MUCH...to call us MINIS?!??! your a IGNORANT FOOL!!!! i PROMISE YOU....you wouldnt be talking like that if ya'll played us....LaJoya would TOWER OVER YA'LL....Their OLine AVERAGES 6'3 285...BUT WE'RE MINIS RIGHT?!!!?!?!

I know a lot of people on this board like to see how teams pit against each other but I think that's an innacurate way to measure things. Any team can be as high as their potential or as low. Some teams get up more for others, and the matchups are different. Coaches prepare differently. There is just too many intangibles.

As for the LaJoya tidbit....I remember from the Reagan-Harlingen game that our guys were pushing the Harlingen O and D lines everywhere. Now, I wouldn't go so far and label Seguin a racist either....

[Reaganrattler07]

hey HITLER....why dont you NOT go to a SCHOOL with a MASCOT that is a "MEXICAN" name....why dont you try going to an ALL WHITE SCHOOL...maybe you'd be happier?!?!?! oh and JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION.....have you checked Judson's Roster?!?!?! half of them are "SMALL MEXICANS"

Dude, if your gonna call him a name of someone....don't call him Hitler. Totally different guy with a totally different agenda.

[RGVBadBoy]

i AM LABELING Seguin a "Racist"......listen to the CRAP HE'S POSTING!?!?!? i dont SPEAK "VATTO"....yeah, neither do i, but i can speak spanish....

[SeguinMatadors]

hey HITLER....why dont you NOT go to a SCHOOL with a MASCOT that is a "MEXICAN" name....why dont you try going to an ALL WHITE SCHOOL...maybe you'd be happier?!?!?! oh and JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION.....have you checked Judson's Roster?!?!?! half of them are "SMALL MEXICANS"

So you compare me to someone who commits genocide because I make obvious statements about the Valley schools race.. which leads to the size. Everybody knows the Valley is mostly Mexicans. Everybody knows Mexicans tend to be small little peep squeeks.

Okay? What does my old HS's mascot have to do with anything? lol Is that what you do in the Valley, compare mascots? You certainly don't play football.

Judsons has size and athletes where needed. You can plug those little guys in here and there.

[RGVBadBoy]

Dude, if your gonna call him a name of someone....don't call him Hitler. Totally different guy with a totally different agenda.
read what he's posting Rattler....tell me, that HE isnt out of line....i called him hittler when he TRASHED MY COMMUNITY....i am a public servant...i'm a police officer....and to hear THIS IDIOT disrespect my HOME...yeah right...

[RGVBadBoy]

So you compare me to someone who commits genocide because I make obvious statements about the Valley schools race.. which leads to the size. Everybody knows the Valley is mostly Mexicans. Everybody knows Mexicans tend to be small little peep squeeks.

hey, guess what?!?!? we're NOT MEXICANS!!!!! we're HISPANIC!!!!! we're also NOT ALL SMALL!!!! your steriotyping IGNORANT FOOL.....get over yourself....

[Reaganrattler07]

i AM LABELING Seguin a "Racist"......listen to the CRAP HE'S POSTING!?!?!? i dont SPEAK "VATTO"....yeah, neither do i, but i can speak spanish....

HEY HITLER.....get over yourself bro....GO WIN A PLAY OFF GAME WITH the ARIAN BROTHERHOOD....okay....lets STOP with the racial slurrs....

and if you NOTICED...they didnt come from me...

Last I remember, Hitler didn't have anything against Mexicans....well, not really.

By the way....it's actually Aryan....

No, they didn't come from you....but you kept it going.

[RGVBadBoy]

yeah i kept it going....i didnt disrespect his home EITHER....he was out of line...

[Reaganrattler07]

read what he's posting Rattler....tell me, that HE isnt out of line....i called him hittler when he TRASHED MY COMMUNITY....i am a public servant...i'm a police officer....and to hear THIS IDIOT disrespect my HOME...yeah right...he can stay in his TRAILER PARK BANGING HIS SISTER FOR ALL I CARE....

Yes, a few posts are a little out of line. Like speaking vatto and peep squeeks but he may be doing that to just get a burr in your sadle.

[SeguinMatadors]

read what he's posting Rattler....tell me, that HE isnt out of line....i called him hittler when he TRASHED MY COMMUNITY....i am a public servant...i'm a police officer....and to hear THIS IDIOT disrespect my HOME...yeah right...he can stay in his TRAILER PARK BANGING HIS SISTER FOR ALL I CARE....

The Valley isn't exactly the pride of Texas and neither is its football. It makes me laugh that you actually believe in Valley football. lol

You are a public servant, yet you are calling me poor... LMFAO!:p :D :rolleyes:

[SeguinMatadors]

hey, guess what?!?!? we're NOT MEXICANS!!!!! we're HISPANIC!!!!! we're also NOT ALL SMALL!!!! your steriotyping IGNORANT FOOL.....get over yourself....Adolf

Nothing wrong with correct stereotypes... as a whole they are small. Yawwn...

[SeguinMatadors]

Nothing wrong with correct stereotypes... as a whole they are small. Yawwn...

Heck, I am not denying that there are some big players in the Valley... just tiny little teams as a whole.

[Reaganrattler07]

The Valley isn't exactly the pride of Texas and neither is its football. It makes me laugh that you actually believe in Valley football. lol

You are a public servant, yet you are calling me poor... LMFAO!:p :D :rolleyes:

Lol, some public servants do get paid nicely.

[RGVBadBoy]

The Valley isn't exactly the pride of Texas and neither is its football. It makes me laugh that you actually believe in Valley football. lol

You are a public servant, yet you are calling me poor... LMFAO!:p :D :rolleyes:
what do you make...YOU MUST ME A DOCTOR!?!??! LAWYER!?!?!? ohh...wait...LET ME GUESS a PIG FARMER?!!!?!?? i make enough money, i AINT POOR NIETHER.....i'm ONLY 24 and GUESS WHAT?!?!?

[SeguinMatadors]

what do you make...YOU MUST ME A DOCTOR!?!??! LAWYER!?!?!? ohh...wait...LET ME GUESS a PIG FARMER?!!!?!?? i make enough money, i AINT POOR NIETHER.....i'm ONLY 24 and GUESS WHAT?!?!? i have a DEGREE..something a REDNECK WOULDNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT!!!!

By the way you spell, punctuate, and construct your sentences...I am guessing your degree is from the police academy?

I am in college... and I don't think I could live off of a police officers salary.

[Reaganrattler07]

Do we really need to discuss salaries? Each person is different and so long as their making enough to live to their standards, then that should be fine....

[RGVBadBoy]

NO....i went to school at UTSA!!!!!

[Reaganrattler07]

NO....i went to school at UTSA!!!!! then i went to the POLICE ACADEMY......if you think i get paid PEANUTS....YOUR WRONG...i dont make $25,000 a year....LIKE YOU THINK....TRY DOUBLE THAT....stay in school....your gonna need it...DONT BE SUPRISED IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE RGV TO FIND A JOB....BECAUSE THE PAY IS SO MUCH MORE DOWN HERE!!!!!!!

What is it that you do? Are you a police officer or are part of a different department?

[RGVBadBoy]

I'm a POLICE OFFICER....in the HIGHEST paid Dept in the RGV....in fact....SOUTH OF SA, though i think i make JUST AS MUCH AS SA DOES.....we are NATIONALLY ACREDITED....that means that we are FUNDED by the FEDERAL GOVT....because we SEIZE the MOST DRUGS and CATCH THE MOST BAD GUYS.....we are TOP of the FOODCHAIN SOUTH of SA...our OFFICERS are 2nd TO NONE....we were instructed by the BEST to be the BEST

[Reaganrattler07]

I'm a POLICE OFFICER....in the HIGHEST paid Dept in the RGV....in fact....SOUTH OF SA, though i think i make JUST AS MUCH AS SA DOES.....we are NATIONALLY ACREDITED....that means that we are FUNDED by the FEDERAL GOVT....because we SEIZE the MOST DRUGS and CATCH THE MOST BAD GUYS.....we are TOP of the FOODCHAIN SOUTH of SA...our OFFICERS are 2nd TO NONE....we were instructed by the BEST to be the BEST

That's cool.

[SeguinMatadors]

NO....i went to school at UTSA!!!!! then i went to the POLICE ACADEMY......if you think i get paid PEANUTS....YOUR WRONG...i dont make $25,000 a year....LIKE YOU THINK....TRY DOUBLE THAT....stay in school....your gonna need it...DONT BE SUPRISED IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE RGV TO FIND A JOB....BECAUSE THE PAY IS SO MUCH MORE DOWN HERE!!!!!!! BY THE WAY...MY WIFE TO BE is a LISENCED SPEECH THERAPIST....WITH A MASTERS DEGREE.....so together is WELL OVER 100K household income....but since you know A WHOLE LOT...you SHOULD KNOW THAT?!?!?!?!?

BEING WHITE AINT GONNA GET YOU MUCH ADOLF......STAY IN SCHOOL..

Well, with your obviously limited intellect, I am embarrassed to say I go to the same school you went to. However, it is just for the short term... I got accepted to Baylor (A fine school)... but chose to join the UT CAPS program instead.

Anyone can make up figures about their income online; It doesn't really matter to me little man.

As far as me moving to the Valley, I would accept half the money to stay out of the Valley... the Valley isn't even like Texas.

[SeguinMatadors]

I'm a POLICE OFFICER....in the HIGHEST paid Dept in the RGV....in fact....SOUTH OF SA, though i think i make JUST AS MUCH AS SA DOES.....we are NATIONALLY ACREDITED....that means that we are FUNDED by the FEDERAL GOVT....because we SEIZE the MOST DRUGS and CATCH THE MOST BAD GUYS.....we are TOP of the FOODCHAIN SOUTH of SA...our OFFICERS are 2nd TO NONE....we were instructed by the BEST to be the BEST

Hello! It is the Valley... right next to Mexico (drug smuggling)... of course there are going to be lots of drugs to find.

[Reaganrattler07]

Personally, I've heard that the Border towns aren't all that good. If there's anywhere in Texas, I'll stay in SA if it were my choice.

[Reaganrattler07]

Hello! It is the Valley... right next to Mexico... of course there are going to be lots of drugs to find.

Drug runners from Columbia pass through Mexico....doesn't come from...well, not most of it at least.

[RGVBadBoy]

Well, with your obviously limited intellect, I am embarrassed to say I go to the same school you went to. However, it is just for the short term... I got accepted to Baylor (A fine school)... but chose to join the UT CAPS program instead.

Anyone can make up figures about their income online; It doesn't really matter to me little man.

As far as me moving to the Valley, I would accept half the money to stay out of the Valley... the Valley isn't even like Texas.
little man?!?!?! K!?!? limited intellect???? i'm NOT making any figures up...i'm JUST NOT STUPID and i was AMBICIOUS....i am PROUD of where i'm from....i love my community....i love my JOB....i get to TAKE IGORANT IDIOTS LIKE YOURSELF OFF THE STREET.....

[SeguinMatadors]

little man?!?!?! K!?!? limited intellect???? i'm NOT making any figures up...i'm JUST NOT STUPID and i was AMBICIOUS....i am PROUD of where i'm from....i love my community....i love my JOB....i get to TAKE IGORANT IDIOTS LIKE YOURSELF OFF THE STREET.....

Oh the irony.

[RGVBadBoy]

Personally, I've heard that the Border towns aren't all that good. If there's anywhere in Texas, I'll stay in SA if it were my choice.
certain communities are good, some are TERRIBLE....McAllen, Mission/Sharyland and Harlingen are all pretty nice.....the REST can be kinda bad...but like all places every city has its good and bad parts....i have lived in SA, i liked it fine....it was okay....i have NOTHING bad to say about the place...my sister lives in SA in Helotes actually...

[Reaganrattler07]

certain communities are good, some are TERRIBLE....McAllen, Mission/Sharyland and Harlingen are all pretty nice.....the REST can be kinda bad...but like all places every city has its good and bad parts....i have lived in SA, i liked it fine....it was okay....i have NOTHING bad to say about the place...my sister lives in SA in Helotes actually...

Oh yeah, every place has good and bad.....some has more good and some has more bad unfortunately. But there's nothing really bad with SA. apart from the fact that they didnt feel like building a Burger King in the 281/1604 area....but my dad spent some time in Laredo.

[SeguinMatadors]

Oh yeah, every place has good and bad.....some has more good and some has more bad unfortunately. But there's nothing really bad with SA. apart from the fact that they didnt feel like building a Burger King in the 281/1604 area....but my dad spent some time in Laredo.

Edit.

[RGVBadBoy]

Laredo is a HORRIBLE PLACE....people are KILLED THERE EVERYDAY.....

[Royal85]

Quite an exchange you guys have been having. Hope you don't mind if I give you my take on all this. I am familiar with the Valley as I have some friends and relatives there. I have seen Valley teams play. I will say this. The valley teams play at least as hard as any other in the state. The fan support is better than most other areas and I have seen high school football in Dallas, San Antonio and Houston areas. They can play good football. The reality is that best Valley teams cannot match up with the team speed and size of the better teams in the bigger areas. Every once in a while a Valley team competes with a good team from another area, but usually Valley teams cannot hang with the big dogs. The Valley is growing very fast and this could help it get more competitive. But until then, I'm afraid they just don't have the complete package to be able to win against the state's elite.

[SeguinMatadors]

I would like to apoligize if I offended anyone with terms that may have been insensative.... the terms I used were wrong but I still hold by my opinion of the Valley and the football played there. I don't mean any disrespect to Hispanics... it is just the reality.

[SeguinMatadors]

Quite an exchange you guys have been having. Hope you don't mind if I give you my take on all this. I am familiar with the Valley as I have some friends and relatives there. I have seen Valley teams play. I will say this. The valley teams play at least as hard as any other in the state. The fan support is better than most other areas and I have seen high school football in Dallas, San Antonio and Houston areas. They can play good football. The reality is that best Valley teams cannot match up with the team speed and size of the better teams in the bigger areas. Every once in a while a Valley team competes with a good team from another area, but usually Valley teams cannot hang with the big dogs. The Valley is growing very fast and this could help it get more competitive. But until then, I'm afraid they just don't have the complete package to be able to win against the state's elite.

It did get a little heated.

In time, maybe the Valley will produce some teams... but there isn't a Valley team right now who should be considered in the top 14 or so in region 4... that is just the way it is.

Well said.

[RGVBadBoy]

it is just the reality.
IS IT??!?! or is it opinion!?!??!

[SeguinMatadors]

IS IT??!?! or is it opinion!?!??!

It is widely accepted as reality.

[RGVBadBoy]

:rolleyes:

Martin Luther King's i have a DREAM speech would go GREAT right now....

[SeguinMatadors]

Ok, getting some love from Seguin. Mac will be in the thick of the 265a chase. They return 13 starters and 2 starters due to injury

Starters from 2005
QB Schmid (Through 5 games until injury, he had better #s then Udell)
RB Craig
RB Sharaim
WR Odom
TE Williamson (will go both ways at DE this year)
OL Armstrong
OL Williams
OL Shussler (out after 4th game)

DL Johnson (out after Clark game)
DL Perez
DE Hickman
LB Gallegos (had to play DT due to injuries)
LB Mondragon
LB/DB Kinney
LB/DB Ricker brothers

Players not in starting rotation but had plenty of playing time.
WR Loftin (played in 3/4wr sets)
DB Brown

That looks really solid.. I will be keeping an eye on Mac this year... I want them to do well as the underdog in 26.

[SeguinMatadors]

and Seguin Matadors....FINALLY YA'LL WIN SOME GAMES the last couple of seasons and ya'll are GODS GIFT TO REGION 4 OR WHAT!??!!??!? WHAT EVER BRO win a play off game FOR ONCE!!!!!..


I didn't imply Seguin was "Gods gift to region 4"... I had them ranked between 6 and 8. If you knew what Seguin had returning, you would realize that isn't far fetched at all. Maybe the best defense in the area last year is going to be MUCH better this year. The offense is going to be improved too. I think that in itself makes Seguin a threat and a top team.

[PantherFan70]

Can we all just get along?!?!

Seguin is bettering himself by going to college, and getting a degree, and maybe becoming a writer for ESPN or FOx, and RGV is bettering the nation we live in by helping take down people that we really don't need in our society, now can we get back to football, and how O'Connor is going to take the state by surprise? :D

[SeguinMatadors]

Can we all just get along?!?!

Seguin is bettering himself by going to college, and getting a degree, and RGV is bettering the nation we live in, now can we get back to football, and how O'Connor is going to take the state by surprise? :D

Getting back to football sounds good... what all does O'Connor have returning?

[PantherFan70]

Getting back to football sounds good... what all does O'Connor have returning?

Everybody, but a QB and 2 O-linemen.

I think the RB from Last year #10 will move back to QB, which I think he is a little better at, and the RB we lost to injury looks sharp this year. I alos think the 2 O-linemen stepping up are going to be pretty good, they look to have quick feet and a pretty good grasp of the offense even though they are young. On Defense we replace 1 DE and CB and Safety, but in the secondary they rotated a lot and all got some pretty good playing time. Should be interesting to see when Spring ball comes around.

[lonny23]

I didn't imply Seguin was "Gods gift to region 4"... I had them ranked between 6 and 8. If you knew what Seguin had returning, you would realize that isn't far fetched at all. Maybe the best defense in the area last year is going to be MUCH better this year. The offense is going to be improved too. I think that in itself makes Seguin a threat and a top team.... (Note: I posted this later in the thread I just thought I would add it here too)

You are nothing more than a joke to me. I created this thread and I kick you out of it.
You would get laughed at for saying it about the team.

You think mankind when talking about yourself!:p

[lonny23]

LOL....what part upset you?!?!!? the part where i said for you to win a playoff game!??!?! yeah, i figured....it MUST SUCK TO NEVER MAKE IT OUT OF THE 1st ROUND....EVEN WHEN YA'LL PLAY THE 3rd seed?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAH:D

PS....im not leavin'
Hey, don't dog that 3rd seed out. 3rd in 26-5A is still usually top 5 in the region and 3rd played for state this year.

[RPM]

:rolleyes:

Martin Luther King's i have a DREAM speech would go GREAT right now....

man...missed out on all the action...

[badger95]

I agree that MacArthur would beat a lot of the others I put in my top 15. However I had to consider who the probable playoff teams would be. I figure that SV, Judson, Madison, and Reagan will make the playoff out of that district, so the brahmas are the odd man out.

Bastrop lost most of their best players off of their playoff team of last year. Austin returns more all-district players than anyone in district 25-5A. They control the ball and clock better than anyone I saw last year and they have a stout defensive front and LB corps. Their Head Coach was the DC at RR Westwood three yeas ago when they beat Westlake. He knows how to beat those guys, and led the Maroons to a halftime tie with the Chaps this past year. If not for some awful punting, they might have pulled it out.

As far as the Valley teams go. They do play good football down there and are getting better every year. Granted, they don't have the number of athletes as everyone farther north, look for a player like Brandon Stephens to carry his team. Also, La Joya is one of the biggest schools in the state. Just by having morre kids to choose from, gives them a greater chance to have a better team. Someone will make a breakthrough down there eventually, and when they do, it will be a big surprize.

[Reaganrattler07]

Laredo is a HORRIBLE PLACE....people are KILLED THERE EVERYDAY.....

That it is....

[Reaganrattler07]

Everybody, but a QB and 2 O-linemen.

I think the RB from Last year #10 will move back to QB, which I think he is a little better at, and the RB we lost to injury looks sharp this year. I alos think the 2 O-linemen stepping up are going to be pretty good, they look to have quick feet and a pretty good grasp of the offense even though they are young. On Defense we replace 1 DE and CB and Safety, but in the secondary they rotated a lot and all got some pretty good playing time. Should be interesting to see when Spring ball comes around.

Wonder if Reagan and O'Connor will play each other again next year....

[PantherFan70]

Wonder if Reagan and O'Connor will play each other again next year....

I saw on another site, somebody said they were supposed to play Reagan and Lee if I'm not mistaken, but that is just speculation, I think it would most likely end up Reagan and Madison in the pre district. Hopefully it will be a good game though if they do.

[bubbacoach]

Alot of who and when people in 26-5A play in the preseason is up in the air until UIL lets Lee back in. Then their willbe games that have to be cancelled after week 1, because we will start district in week two because of the nine team district we will be in.:D

[SeguinMatadors]

I agree that MacArthur would beat a lot of the others I put in my top 15. However I had to consider who the probable playoff teams would be. I figure that SV, Judson, Madison, and Reagan will make the playoff out of that district, so the brahmas are the odd man out.

Bastrop lost most of their best players off of their playoff team of last year. Austin returns more all-district players than anyone in district 25-5A. They control the ball and clock better than anyone I saw last year and they have a stout defensive front and LB corps. Their Head Coach was the DC at RR Westwood three yeas ago when they beat Westlake. He knows how to beat those guys, and led the Maroons to a halftime tie with the Chaps this past year. If not for some awful punting, they might have pulled it out.

As far as the Valley teams go. They do play good football down there and are getting better every year. Granted, they don't have the number of athletes as everyone farther north, look for a player like Brandon Stephens to carry his team. Also, La Joya is one of the biggest schools in the state. Just by having morre kids to choose from, gives them a greater chance to have a better team. Someone will make a breakthrough down there eventually, and when they do, it will be a big surprize.

I get what you were doing about the whole playoff deal... but this wasn't a who is going to make the playoffs thread... just a power rankings thread.. going by nothing more than talent and Mac should have been in there.

You think Madison will make the playoffs over Churchill and Mac? I just can't see that this year.

Hey, I respect your opinion and surely you know more about Austin and its football than I.... but I am a tad bit baffeled.... you are pumping up Austin High's defense... and then I go and look up the numbers and the numbers don't impress me... giving up 26 points per game is very mediocre. I know that you insist that they took you guys to the wire last year... but maybe Westlake just didn't get up for the game? I seem to recall Seguin taking Westlake to the wire the last time we played them 3 years ago (In coach Carsons first year)... with a far less talented team than we have had the past two years and especially this upcoming year.

[badger95]

did I say Madison? I meant Churchill. I understand what you're saying and agree that MacArthur will be very good and deserves to be in there under straight powere ratings. I expect that Roosevelt will be much improved under ex-Tivy coach Neal LaHue, who was the offensive coordinator at Westlake in '96 when they won their state champioship. Jim Streety always put a good team on the field at Madison.

Austin high was plagued by youthfull mistakes. Lots of turnovers and a new offense really slowed them down early. But they came on very strong at the end of the season and barely missed out on a playoff berth over Bastrop.

I saw them play twice. Against Westlake they, had three possessions and the Chaps had two in the first half. The score was 14-14, and the maroons had the ball for about 22 minutes of the 24 minutes.
Against Clemens after giving up several big plays in the first half and falling behind, they completely shut down the Buffs in the second half.

I expect that they will be very much improved this year. I did list them as a sleeper, remember.

[PantherFan70]

On SASports.com message board some guy is Boasting about how Del Rio is going to be a Playoff team this year and how they shutdown every run game in the district last season(I guess holding JAY to 300 Rushing yards is shutting them down)! IT's hilarious! IF you guys get a chance you should stop by and look at the ridiculous stuff that guy is saying!

[RPM]

:rolleyes:

Martin Luther King's i have a DREAM speech would go GREAT right now....


why a speech when i can give you a stat..
how about a stat badboy...

1988 Area round...you ready...lol!
Harlingen 20, Seguin 13

LOLOLOL! :eek:

[justafan5214]

Im sorry valley teams i grew up in the valley....ya they are like 9-0 10-0 but when they get to the playoffs they lose really bad..the only reason yall do go to teh 3rd round is cause you play valley schools...then when you get to the 3rd or 4th round yall lose...so what does that tell us. What makes you think yall can talk if yall havent backed anything up. Im from the valley and i went to the semis. so that kinda narrows it down right.

[CKE]

ok about the whole RVGbadboy thing. madison gave SV a way better game than LU score doesnt matter no matter what you say. not one valley team would make it out of round 1 if the were in a the SA area. so dont go bragging about how valley teams go deep in the playoffs. of course you are going to go somewhere playing other valley teams anyway.And a word of advice(and i swear i mean nothing by this) you are trying to make your self look good by saying that your police department is one of the best in south texas but you point out that you live in one of the worst parts so it makes your town look bad. lets stick to football and not personal attacks seguin

[RedRage00]

lets stick to football and not personal attacks seguin

AMEN!

[SeguinMatadors]

why a speech when i can give you a stat..
how about a stat badboy...

1988 Area round...you ready...lol!
Harlingen 20, Seguin 13

LOLOLOL! :eek:

Oh, are the 1988 guys playing an alumni game this year?

[SeguinMatadors]

. lets stick to football and not personal attacks seguin

I already apoligized for the way I expressed myself.

[RPM]

Oh, are the 1988 guys playing an alumni game this year?

they beat you once they can beat you again..ITS NOT IMPOSSIBLE..:)

[Slim-Rob]

not that the 3rd round is DEEP, but its deeper than Reagan has EVER BEEN....and its DEEPER than Seguin will EVER GO!!!!

Reagan and Seguin would go undefeated in football if they played down in the valley. Reagan went 4-3 in one of the toughest districts in the state, and Seguin lost the first round of the playoffs to the Finalist Judson Rocket team.

[DiamondJ2]

In all the years that Judson has played Valley teams, I've always been impressed with the fan support, the hard play of the teams, and most of the coaches. When a Valley team makes it to the playoff round against SA area schools, it seems the whole Valley supports that team which is how it should be. On the other hand when Judson (especially) or SV make it to semifinal or finals, they have more area fans cheering against them than for them. I guess success in the immediate region causes hard feelings or jealousy instead of outside the school support. I can't praise enough about the Valley fan base support and the hospitality that they have shown us 90% of the time.

As for Seguin having a great defense, they have the suspects, but the district will be a little tougher than last year. The number that they piled up may not be as impressive. But they could still be a force.

[RPM]

thanks Diamond thats all we ask for is some support..it will make texas ball much better overall..believe me we know where we stand but we wont take crap from anyone who tries to put us down anymore..times are changing and the valley is makin some strides as well as the rest of south tx. we have a ways to go but we have faith..one day it will happen and it will be very very speacial..IMO more speacial than previous titles..

[badger95]

Previous Titles? Oh yeah that one that Donna won back in the fifties when they were 2A.

I hope that a team from the Valley does make some noise deeper in the playoffs than they normally do. Also, be proud of how far you do get. A third round playoff game looks the same on a banner anywhere.

[wunderkindepiphany]

Hey folks I grew up in the RGV watching football there and now attend the University in SA. Yes, the valley isnt up to par with most SA schools as far as sports is concerned but its stupid that some of you are here ragging on a people you've never even met or known and, more than that, making fun of homes and culture. Last time I checked, since my girlfriend graduated from HS there, Seguin had a considerable contingent of hispanics and their OWN fair share of economically challenged. Judson isn't rich either and most of SA is pretty dang poor. Its not all of you, but most of you all are fooling yourselves. . .

[LoneRocket]

Hey folks I grew up in the RGV watching football there and now attend the University in SA. Yes, the valley isnt up to par with most SA schools as far as sports is concerned but its stupid that some of you are here ragging on a people you've never even met or known and, more than that, making fun of homes and culture. Last time I checked, since my girlfriend graduated from HS there, Seguin had a considerable contingent of hispanics and their OWN fair share of economically challenged. Judson isn't rich either and most of SA is pretty dang poor. Its not all of you, but most of you all are fooling yourselves. . .
Leave us out of this one, we respect our opponents.

[Reaganrattler07]

Did we have to get back into the whole salary thing again?

[Reaganrattler07]

On SASports.com message board some guy is Boasting about how Del Rio is going to be a Playoff team this year and how they shutdown every run game in the district last season(I guess holding JAY to 300 Rushing yards is shutting them down)! IT's hilarious! IF you guys get a chance you should stop by and look at the ridiculous stuff that guy is saying!

Lol, I haven't seen that but under certain...circumstances...I can't post there.

[NeoO256]

So you compare me to someone who commits genocide because I make obvious statements about the Valley schools race.. which leads to the size. Everybody knows the Valley is mostly Mexicans. Everybody knows Mexicans tend to be small little peep squeeks.

Okay? What does my old HS's mascot have to do with anything? lol Is that what you do in the Valley, compare mascots? You certainly don't play football.

Judsons has size and athletes where needed. You can plug those little guys in here and there.

que te calles, o te callo....translate that, hick...;) See ya around...

[PantherFan70]

Lol, I haven't seen that but under certain...circumstances...I can't post there.

I think the Webmaster took that thread out because we were a little too hard on the guy who was telling us Del Rio was going to take District and go to like the 4th round of the playoffs, with a D-line that can all bench 300-400 Lbs, and squat 500-550 Lbs and a whole bunch of other Crap!

[Slim-Rob]

que te calles, o te callo....translate that, hick...;) See ya around...

Does that mean "You shut up, or I'll shut you up" or something close to that?:confused:

Don't mess with Seguin.

[Reaganrattler07]

I think the Webmaster took that thread out because we were a little too hard on the guy who was telling us Del Rio was going to take District and go to like the 4th round of the playoffs, with a D-line that can all bench 300-400 Lbs, and squat 500-550 Lbs and a whole bunch of other Crap!

Yeah, the webmaster likes to take off every little thing and edit. Trust me, I know....

But I bet those numbers were probably just a LITTLE inflated, lol

[PantherFan70]

Yeah, the webmaster likes to take off every little thing and edit. Trust me, I know....

But I bet those numbers were probably just a LITTLE inflated, lol

yeah, but just a LITTLE

[Reaganrattler07]

yeah, but just a LITTLE

Little = 100-150 lbs.

[SeguinMatadors]

In all the years that Judson has played Valley teams, I've always been impressed with the fan support, the hard play of the teams, and most of the coaches. When a Valley team makes it to the playoff round against SA area schools, it seems the whole Valley supports that team which is how it should be. On the other hand when Judson (especially) or SV make it to semifinal or finals, they have more area fans cheering against them than for them. I guess success in the immediate region causes hard feelings or jealousy instead of outside the school support. I can't praise enough about the Valley fan base support and the hospitality that they have shown us 90% of the time.

As for Seguin having a great defense, they have the suspects, but the district will be a little tougher than last year. The number that they piled up may not be as impressive. But they could still be a force.

I think it is great... Judson only truly sustained one drive on us while the game was still in doubt... and we were missing our best defensive player (who is returning)... we have the only two first team all area defenders returning and a defensive linemen who had 14 sacks returning.

[SeguinMatadors]

Reagan and Seguin would go undefeated in football if they played down in the valley. Reagan went 4-3 in one of the toughest districts in the state, and Seguin lost the first round of the playoffs to the Finalist Judson Rocket team.

Amen.

[Slim-Rob]

I think it is great... Judson only truly sustained one drive on us while the game was still in doubt... and we were missing our best defensive player (who is returning)... we have the only two first team all area defenders returning and a defensive linemen who had 14 sacks returning.

Then again Judson had one of their weakest offenses in years, averaging only 26 ppg. I think Seguin had a good defense, and I see them winning the current 25-5A this year. Maybe we will meet in the playoffs again!

This Blue Bell Mint Chocolate Chip ice cream is GOOD.

[SeguinMatadors]

Then again Judson had one of their weakest offenses in years, averaging only 26 ppg. I think Seguin had a good defense, and I see them winning the current 25-5A this year. Maybe we will meet in the playoffs again!

This Blue Bell Mint Chocolate Chip ice cream is GOOD.

I think it comes down to us and Westlake in 25. I don't know what all Westlake is returning but the team is always disiplined and that will win you a lot of games.

As far as us meeting in the playoffs, I can only hope... how does it work now? Two schools with the highest enrollment go D1 and the two smaller enrollment playoff teams go D2? If so, where does Judson rank as far as enrollment numbers go in 26? Any possability that they go D2? I need to look up the enrollment numbers for 25..

Oh, and hook up the ice cream!

[NeoO256]

Does that mean "You shut up, or I'll shut you up" or something close to that?:confused:

Don't mess with Seguin.


....wow..umm, ok. Don't mess with Seguin??? I'll mess with that hick all he deserves. That kind of crap is rotting America on the inside...don't mess with Seguin? Don't mess with me, buddy...;) peace

[Slim-Rob]

....wow..umm, ok. Don't mess with Seguin??? I'll mess with that hick all he deserves. That kind of crap is rotting America on the inside...don't mess with Seguin? Don't mess with me, buddy...;) peace

Is that a threat? Because I see no reason to not mess with you. So far you have 2 posts. The one above and one calling a respected person a "hick".

[NeoO256]

Respected? Sure..lol...that's a good one. And so what if I have 2 posts (now 3, yay!!). He's harolded and respected for making idiot comments like those?...sure, whatever floats your boat buddy. Did I threaten you? I just told you in different context that I really don't care who you and your hick friend are, just the fact that he made those idiot comments and for you, to back off...and if you wanna serve as translater, be my guest, cara de panch. Peace:cool:

[SeguinMatadors]

Is that a threat? Because I see no reason to not mess with you. So far you have 2 posts. The one above and one calling a respected person a "hick".

Thanks buddy... I am trying my best to refrain from attacking these guys and taking them to school after last night.

[NeoO256]

Thanks buddy... I am trying my best to refrain from attacking these guys and taking them to school after last night.


ahhh HA HA...that's freakin' hilarious. Taking who to school, son? LOL...peace

[SeguinMatadors]

ahhh HA HA...that's freakin' hilarious. Taking who to school, son? LOL...peace

Yawwn... 4 post.. I don't even want to get into it with you newbee....I win my default... seniority.;)

[NeoO256]

Yawwn... 4 post.. I don't even want to get into it with you newbee....I win my default... seniority.;)

bwa ha ha...... backing out, are we? Where's your big mouth, now? Buddy, I'm so calling you out, and you're not taking it....that's sad.

[NeoO256]

ooo....aguitate...This is way too fun...Up to 6, senior.... Aguitate...guey, te voy a bañar con tu mierda....te watcho.;)

[RGVBadBoy]

NeO, ya, calmate...everything is cool....

I would like to apologize for my Harsh COMMENTS to Seguin and to anyone else i may have offended....SORRY LONNY....i still LOVE REGION 4....but i love THE RGV MORE AND MORE....thanks RPM and NeO for the esquina....see ya'll at home rgvsports.com IS HOME!!!!

when it comes down to it....i would cheer on ANY REGION 4 team over ANYONE ELSE....shoot, when i saw Judson playing Euless Trinity in the State Title game, i CHEERED FOR JUDSON....JUST BECAUSE they're REGION 4....but thats the way the RGV does it....

[SeguinMatadors]

ooo....aguitate...This is way too fun...Up to 6, senior.... Aguitate...guey, te voy a bañar con tu mierda....te watcho.;)

No hable Espaniol.

[lonny23]

NeO, ya, calmate...everything is cool....

I would like to apologize for my Harsh COMMENTS to Seguin and to anyone else i may have offended....SORRY LONNY....i still LOVE REGION 4....but i love THE RGV MORE AND MORE....thanks RPM and NeO for the esquina....see ya'll at home rgvsports.com IS HOME!!!!

when it comes down to it....i would cheer on ANY REGION 4 team over ANYONE ELSE....shoot, when i saw Judson playing Euless Trinity in the State Title game, i CHEERED FOR JUDSON....JUST BECAUSE they're REGION 4....but thats the way the RGV does it....
No problem. I know you and all of the RGV supports Region 4. I've posted over at RGVSports. I like having the Valley guys on here and Region 4 needs to stick together. We have to fight Dallas/East Texas/Houston enough and don't need to fight among ourselves. Hey, all you RGV guys. Make sure you keep posting here because we want to hear what you have to say and are thinking.

[Firebird]

A valley guy chiming in here. Wow, this thread got ugly in a hurry. By the way, rgv_badboy, Seguin referring to the "Mexicans" in the Rio Grand Valley is not an insult (although Mexican-American would be more precise). "Mexican" is a nationality, not an insult. And, although there are Latin-Americans from other parts of Central and South America in the valley, the vast majority of the population is indeed of Mexican descent.

I hate the term "Hispanic". It is so vague. Far more precise would be Latin-American (when referring to people from Central and South America in general), better still would be getting rid of the stupid idea that being "Mexican" is somehow insulting. Last time I checked people of Russian, Japanese, Korean, German etc. etc, did not get worked up in a tizzy over being referred to by their nationality. I once saw a t-shirt in the Harlingen mall that said "I am not Hispanic, I am not Latino, I am not Chicano... I am MEXICAN." So true-- being Mexican is nothing to be ashamed of.

I agree that, based on past performance, valley teams should not be ranked in the preseason top 15, barring an unusually talented squad that already proved itself. However, Seguin, don't be to cavalier. The last time you played Harlingen in the playoffs, you lost (Harlingen also beat an Austin team that year, btw). Valley teams have beaten SA and Austin teams, just not very often. However, it makes it all the more sweet when it happens. Knowing that the bad boys up state lost to a bunch of "pip squeek Mexicans" sure is funny to those same Mexicans when it happens. At the 3A level, the folks in Port Isabel do it regularly.

Lonny is right, Region 4 in general should stick together. And folks in SA who deride the Valley for being dirty, corrupt, crime-ridden, etc., etc. should know that folks in Dallas and the rest of the state mock SA for the same reasons-- often using thinly disguised racism. I know-- I herd it constantly at college in West Texas. I remember one time, when a group of friends took a trip to SA, one blonde Metroplex girl made the remark "I never thought a city full of Mexicans could be this nice." Racism against Mexicans and other Latin Americans is absolutely TOXIC for Texas.

[badger95]

well said, Firebird

[KT2000]

ooo....aguitate...This is way too fun...Up to 6, senior.... Aguitate...guey, te voy a bañar con tu mierda....te watcho.;)

En la mayoría de los lugares, eso sería una manera engañosa de tirar su mierda. Sin embargo, este administrador sabe español.

Bueno, adiós.

[RedRage00]

En la mayoría de los lugares, eso sería una manera engañosa de tirar su mierda. Sin embargo, este administrador sabe español.

Bueno, adiós.

Ok, I don't even know what you said and I'm Mexican-American HAHA

But I've been called a coconut so.... :p

[RPM]

I hate the term "Hispanic". It is so vague. Far more precise would be Latin-American (when referring to people from Central and South America in general), better still would be getting rid of the stupid idea that being "Mexican" is somehow insulting. Last time I checked people of Russian, Japanese, Korean, German etc. etc, did not get worked up in a tizzy over being referred to by their nationality. I once saw a t-shirt in the Harlingen mall that said "I am not Hispanic, I am not Latino, I am not Chicano... I am MEXICAN." So true-- being Mexican is nothing to be ashamed of.

AMEN!!!

when i get asked i tell them the same thing..i was born in Houston pero soy mexicano..

[LoneRocket]

1988 Area round...you ready...lol!
Harlingen 20, Seguin 13




1999
State Quarterfinals
Edinburg 35 San Antonio Taft 32
State Semifinals
Aldine Eisenhower 55 Edinburg 14
Any team can be beaten on any given day.

[KT2000]

En la mayoría de lugares, eso sería una manera engañosa de tirar su mierda. Sin embargo, este administrador sabe español.

Bueno, adiós.

Ok, I don't even know what you said and I'm Mexican-American HAHA

But I've been called a coconut so.... :p

"In most places, that'd be a subtle/sneaky way to toss your sh**. However, this administrator knows Spanish.

Goodbye."

I hope I made my point. ;)

[Mad Hatter]

whoa did i miss something, man i go away for like 2 seconds and come back and its like a bar room brawl in here.


You know what i got a way to solve this instead of a region 4 top 15 how about a SA top 10 and a Valley top 10.

Also Seguin man layoff u might have good players returning but seguin is by no means one of the better teams in the Sa area dont start talking crap b4 u have something to talk crap about. Badboy most of the time i see ure posts there always cocky and self assured do u have a complex probelm or something whats the deal?

Anyways...I agree with lonny the Houstonians, East Texans, West Texans, folk from dallas and Aggies are who we should be throwing our hate at go get them.

[SeguinMatadors]

Also Seguin man layoff u might have good players returning but seguin is by no means one of the better teams in the Sa area dont start talking crap b4 u have something to talk crap about.

We will see!:D

*Shake, shake*... (Shaking the haters off):p

[RGVBadBoy]

Badboy most of the time i see ure posts there always cocky and self assured do u have a complex probelm or something whats the deal?
COCKY?!?!??! NO, i just take exception to people INSULTING or BELITTLING the BRAND OF FOOTBALL WE PLAY DOWN HERE...so call me COCKY and SELFASSURED all you want...as long as i can defend my Community...i'll take it

as far as Region 4 TOP 15 goes

i DO think RGVs DESERVE To be in the top 15 YES, but JUST 1!!!!! ONLY LaJoya...McMemorial has 1 GREAT PLAYER, but they cant stop ANYONE...so NO they dont deserve it....Seguin has been pretty good the last couple of seasons, but have not made it past the 1st round...SO WHILE I THINK THEY SHOULD BE MENTIONED they are NOT the SA teams...Austin schools NEVER do MUCH...Leander was good, so was Westlake...but thats IT....and again, WHAT DID THEY DO IN THE PLAYOFFS....

LaJoya plays Warren in wk 1 or 2, Warren is a pretty DECENT SA school, lets see how this one goes..

[KT2000]

I've said it once, and it bears repeating. There is nothing like January or February trash talk. :D

[Mad Hatter]

I've said it once, and it bears repeating. There is nothing like January or February trash talk. :D

lol its crazy

[Gridiron Gopher]

Since it was brought up, here's a top 10 for SA area:

1. SV
2. Judson
3. Jay
4. O'Conner
5. Churchill
6. MacArthur
7. Clark
8. Reagan
9. Madison
10. Seguin

[Miss Kitty]

En la mayoría de los lugares, eso sería una manera engañosa de tirar su mierda. Sin embargo, este administrador sabe español.

Bueno, adiós.


HA HA HA HA HA HA..... You go KT2K....LOL :D

[RPM]

pass the wire im bilingual....

[PantherFan70]

Since it was brought up, here's a top 10 for SA area:

1. SV
2. Judson
3. Jay
4. O'Conner
5. Churchill
6. MacArthur
7. Clark
8. Reagan
9. Madison
10. Seguin

Thats probably about the most accurate list right now. I can't wait until Jay and O'Connor play next year, because I know its going to be the District Title game and OC will take it this time, I think our young defense figured out how to stay home and watch for run after that game! It was sick, I watched the video of that game for 3 weeks straight after that embarrasing loss, and all Jay did was shift their TE to the opposite sid of our stud DE and run the ball the other way, and our defense did not catch on, I was like WTF!!!!! Crazy!, I don't think Clark will be that high in the rankings though after the first 3 games of District. I think Marshall will take their place.

[RedRage00]

Also Seguin man layoff u might have good players returning but seguin is by no means one of the better teams in the Sa area dont start talking crap b4 u have something to talk crap about. Badboy most of the time i see ure posts there always cocky and self assured do u have a complex probelm or something whats the deal?



AMEN!

[RedRage00]

Since it was brought up, here's a top 10 for SA area:

1. SV
2. Judson
3. Jay
4. O'Conner
5. Churchill
6. MacArthur
7. Clark
8. Reagan
9. Madison
10. Seguin

Good list

[badger95]

Good list

Good for SA, but reality is you have to include Westlake in that because whoever wins the first round game between them and 26-5A will win the region in Div. I.

[Mad Hatter]

yeah good list id switch Jay and O'Conner abound but thats just me :)

[PantherFan70]

Good for SA, but reality is you have to include Westlake in that because whoever wins the first round game between them and 26-5A will win the region in Div. I.

I have a feeling that ,at least in Div 1, the winner of region 4 may not come from 26 5 or Austin...... Call me bias, but I think it might happen! This will be the get over the 26 5 Hump year

[Reaganrattler07]

Since it was brought up, here's a top 10 for SA area:

1. SV
2. Judson
3. Jay
4. O'Conner
5. Churchill
6. MacArthur
7. Clark
8. Reagan
9. Madison
10. Seguin

I don't get it....why, after everyon season that Reagan beats MacArthur that Mac seems to always get ranked ahead of us?

[PantherFan70]

I don't get it....why, after everyon season that Reagan beats MacArthur that Mac seems to always get ranked ahead of us?

Doesn't MAC have a a lot of kids returning, If they do, I think it is based on the expierence that is coming back, if not then I have no clue.... but remember, these aren't rankings, these are opinions

[Slim-Rob]

No hable Espaniol.

No Hablo Espanol

you were using the 2nd person.

[DiamondJ2]

Things will probably change in the future for the Valley schools, but the reason, well, just look who were the dominant teams in San Antonio in the 50's, then in the 60's, 70's etc. Then look at the teams that are now cellar dwellars or can't compete in playoff times with the 90's and 21st century leaders in SA area. The common denominator is there.

[lonny23]

"In most places, that'd be a subtle/sneaky way to toss your sh**. However, this administrator knows Spanish.

Goodbye."

I hope I made my point. ;)
Talking about an upset. I PM 2 guys for getting out of line and a third guy comes in and gets tossed. Are we going by hockey rules now?:D

Seriously, can you guys just cool it? Everytime I think the fire is about to go out, somebody else tosses a log on there.

[badger95]

Things will probably change in the future for the Valley schools, but the reason, well, just look who were the dominant teams in San Antonio in the 50's, then in the 60's, 70's etc. Then look at the teams that are now cellar dwellars or can't compete in playoff times with the 90's and 21st century leaders in SA area. The common denominator is there.

You make an excellent point. You won't see Breckenridge and Lanier battle out in the game of the century ever again.

[SeguinMatadors]

I am going to mark this thread down once the season comes around... this is killing me... do you know that feeling you get when you know that you are right... but the person you are talking to doesn't know you are right and pretty much calls you the idiot when they are infact wrong?... that is how this thread is making me feel.:mad: :( Seguin will own.

[SeguinMatadors]

Seriously, can you guys just cool it? Everytime I think the fire is about to go out, somebody else tosses a log on there.

Hey, I have laid off and it has been killing me to ignore what these guys have been saying.

[SeguinMatadors]

No Hablo Espanol

you were using the 2nd person.

Si Senor.

[Gridiron Gopher]

I don't get it....why, after everyon season that Reagan beats MacArthur that Mac seems to always get ranked ahead of us?

Just my opinion. Anytime you lose a player like Greg Jones it hurts. Reagan might beat Mac again. Who knows.

[Mad Hatter]

I am going to mark this thread down once the season comes around... this is killing me... do you know that feeling you get when you know that you are right... but the person you are talking to doesn't know you are right and pretty much calls you the idiot when they are infact wrong?... that is how this thread is making me feel.:mad: :( Seguin will own.

just like clemens owned and got bounced out of the playoffs first round ? Not to mention what is a seguin owning record exactly .... 6 and 4, 7 and 3 please explain ???

[mad_fan]

"In most places, that'd be a subtle/sneaky way to toss your sh**. However, this administrator knows Spanish.

Goodbye."

I hope I made my point. ;)


This is just like the Weakest Link.

[Reaganrattler07]

Just my opinion. Anytime you lose a player like Greg Jones it hurts. Reagan might beat Mac again. Who knows.

But when you keep a few like Matt Smith and Marcus Wright, quite a bit of the defense....future looks bright.

[SeguinMatadors]

just like clemens owned and got bounced out of the playoffs first round ? Not to mention what is a seguin owning record exactly .... 6 and 4, 7 and 3 please explain ???


I will admit you guys would probably still beat us in a head to head game though... mentally you guys have a huge edge on everyone besides Smithson Valley. I still think we have more talent returning than Judson, though. We will not lose to anyone on are schedule this year except for maybe Westlake... that will put us at 9-1 with a win over Madison (Even though they are down this year). Now that the Mac game will be cancled I don't know who are other non district game is... but I doubt there willbe any good teams available to play anymore. 9-1 is owning in my books.

[KT2000]

I can't think are many more pissed off teams than Reagan this off-season after how they missed the playoffs last year. They had it all in their grasp, and then Judson happened.

I imagine the Reagan players are working very hard. It'll be interesting to see if they continue to improve this fall or take a step (or three) back.

[PantherFan70]

I can't think are many more pissed off teams than Reagan this off-season after how they missed the playoffs last year. They had it all in their grasp, and then Judson happened.

I imagine the Reagan players are working very hard. It'll be interesting to see if they continue to improve this fall or take a step (or three) back.

Hopefully the rumor of OC and Reagan for the first game will stay true, and that should be a good measurement for both teams.

[Gridiron Gopher]

Hopefully the rumor of OC and Reagan for the first game will stay true, and that should be a good measurement for both teams.

I agree 100% and would be at that game.

[badger95]

just like clemens owned and got bounced out of the playoffs first round ? Not to mention what is a seguin owning record exactly .... 6 and 4, 7 and 3 please explain ???

Clemens without James Henry wasn't anywhere near as good as they were with him. One of the few times when one player does make that much of a difference.

I don't know what Seguin's non-district schedule is, but they could easily go 7-1 or 6-2 in 25-5A if their defense is a stacked as it is fortold.

[Reaganrattler07]

I can't think are many more pissed off teams than Reagan this off-season after how they missed the playoffs last year. They had it all in their grasp, and then Judson happened.

I imagine the Reagan players are working very hard. It'll be interesting to see if they continue to improve this fall or take a step (or three) back.

I dunno if anyone believes in any 'game day superstition' stuff but during mid-season my parents bought me a new car and whenever I took that car to a game, we won. And the air bag wasn't working oen day so we dropped it off at our mechanic and that was the same week as Judson.....very strange.

But I do know that the players are working hard for next year.

[SeguinMatadors]

I dunno if anyone believes in any 'game day superstition' stuff but during mid-season my parents bought me a new car and whenever I took that car to a game, we won. And the air bag wasn't working oen day so we dropped it off at our mechanic and that was the same week as Judson.....very strange.

But I do know that the players are working hard for next year.

lmao... one question... how do you know when the airbag is not working?!?!!

[Mad Hatter]

i dont want to find out.

[Slim-Rob]

lmao... one question... how do you know when the airbag is not working?!?!!

There is a little sensor that says "DON'T WRECK"

[SeguinMatadors]

i dont want to find out.

Well at least we agree on something.:p

[Reaganrattler07]

lmao... one question... how do you know when the airbag is not working?!?!!

lol, let me rephrase it, it wasn't "new". And our mechanic like specializes in this kind of car and he could tell it was disconnected. And the kinda of car it is, it sorta needs the airbag.

[Reaganrattler07]

There is a little sensor that says "DON'T WRECK"

LMAO! Oddly enough the SRS light was on.....

[Slim-Rob]

LMAO! Oddly enough the SRS light was on.....

Which means "DON'T WRECK"

[Reaganrattler07]

Which means "DON'T WRECK"

Lol, apparently it meant the actual airbag was in.....but wasn't working :confused: ....oh who knows, it works now.

[SeguinMatadors]

Lol, apparently it meant the actual airbag was in.....but wasn't working :confused: ....oh who knows, it works now.

And how exactly do you know that?

[Reaganrattler07]

And how exactly do you know that?

Replaced everything....and took it by a dealership and had them check it out as well...

[Slim-Rob]

Lol, apparently it meant the actual airbag was in.....but wasn't working :confused: ....oh who knows, it works now.

Have you heard about the fake airbags. For some reason they are legal and you can have them installed in your car. I DON'T THINK SO. Its just a peice of foam that goes where the bag is supposed to go, and when you wreck it just pops the casing off. KSAT 12 did a special on them.

[Reaganrattler07]

Have you heard about the fake airbags. For some reason they are legal and you can have them installed in your car. I DON'T THINK SO. Its just a peice of foam that goes where the bag is supposed to go, and when you wreck it just pops the casing off. KSAT 12 did a special on them.

No, I made sure it's real. But that has to suck with fake airbags.....dispicable, really.

[Slim-Rob]

No, I made sure it's real. But that has to suck with fake airbags.....dispicable, really.

Yeah. But those fake ones are put in with the owners consent. The owner ALLOWS the person to put in the fake ones because they cost less. Screw that, I would rather pay a lot and live than pay a little and smash my face on the steering wheel.

[Mad Hatter]

fake airbags:eek:

brbr i need to go check my truck.

[Reaganrattler07]

Yeah. But those fake ones are put in with the owners consent. The owner ALLOWS the person to put in the fake ones because they cost less. Screw that, I would rather pay a lot and live than pay a little and smash my face on the steering wheel.

Oh ok, well, if the owner's stupid enough to put a fake airbag in....

[clemensbuff]

LOL....what part upset you?!?!!? the part where i said for you to win a playoff game!??!?! yeah, i figured....it MUST SUCK TO NEVER MAKE IT OUT OF THE 1st ROUND....EVEN WHEN YA'LL PLAY THE 3rd seed?!?!?! HAHAHAHAHAH:D

PS....im not leavin'

If you would like to really laugh the PLEASE CHECK THE VALLEY'S RECORD AGAINST ALL SA AREA TEAMS IN THE LAST 20 YEARS! Careful now, you just might bust a gut!!

[clemensbuff]

well, we go to the 3rd round EVERY SEASON....when was the LAST TIME Seguin made it past the 1st ROUND!??!?!?!

You go to the third round playing against who????? If Valley teams played the SA area teams in the first round every year you would be watching basketball on the third week of November.

[RPM]

well worry about SA in the first round whenever it happens for now the 3rd round it is..

[LoneRocket]

well worry about SA in the first round whenever it happens for now the 3rd round it is..
I thought we were going to support our region, not part of it.

[RPM]

im supporting my region just not when we play against each other..after all valley teams are gone i root for whoever is left from region 4..from 5a to 1a ball..

[lonny23]

I dunno if anyone believes in any 'game day superstition' stuff but during mid-season my parents bought me a new car and whenever I took that car to a game, we won. And the air bag wasn't working oen day so we dropped it off at our mechanic and that was the same week as Judson.....very strange.

But I do know that the players are working hard for next year.
That was redundant equipment. We all know you're full of hot air to start with!:p

[RedRage00]

You go to the third round playing against who????? If Valley teams played the SA area teams in the first round every year you would be watching basketball on the third week of November.


Yeah, Victoria used to have an easy route to round 3 :D
But no more! :eek: :p

[PantherFan70]

Yeah, Victoria used to have an easy route to round 3 :D
But no more! :eek: :p

They almost pulled it off the past 2 years, I think the strength of schedules starts to show in the second half for Victoria. But I'm sure you guys are going to upset someone soon.

[RGVBadBoy]

You go to the third round playing against who????? If Valley teams played the SA area teams in the first round every year you would be watching basketball on the third week of November.
ahhh, more rhetoric from someone who has never seen his team get past the 1st rd.....look everyone...I KNOW THAT THE VALLEY PLAYS "WEAK" teams in the 1st couple of rounds....BUT IS THAT OUR FAULT?!!?!? NO!!!! so why dont ya'll slow your roles and GET OVER IT....we're very happy to get to play the STATES TOUGHEST TEAMS in the 3rd rd.....how we play..thats another story.....

OH...and BY TOUGHEST TEAMS, i'm talking about the teams in SanAntonio or in SUBURBS of SA......NOT FURTHER DOWN I 35

[Rerun]

ahhh, more rhetoric from someone who has never seen his team get past the 1st rd.....look everyone...I KNOW THAT THE VALLEY PLAYS "WEAK" teams in the 1st couple of rounds....BUT IS THAT OUR FAULT?!!?!? NO!!!! so why dont ya'll slow your roles and GET OVER IT....we're very happy to get to play the STATES TOUGHEST TEAMS in the 3rd rd.....how we play..thats another story.....

OH...and BY TOUGHEST TEAMS, i'm talking about the teams in SanAntonio or in SUBURBS of SA......NOT FURTHER DOWN I 35

Clemens was a semi-final team in 2003.

Schertz is a suburb of San Antonio, btw...

[Mr_Lucci]

NeO, ya, calmate...everything is cool....

when it comes down to it....i would cheer on ANY REGION 4 team over ANYONE ELSE....shoot, when i saw Judson playing Euless Trinity in the State Title game, i CHEERED FOR JUDSON....JUST BECAUSE they're REGION 4....but thats the way the RGV does it....

I can appreciate your opinion and your point of view RGV but your "little" friend Finding Neo is making the Valley look bad. I always find it funny how people get online and talk sh*t. We call these people internet gangstas. I am more than sure nemo wouldn't talk that stuff in San Antonio cuz.

[DiamondJ2]

I'm sure Reagan is working hard in the off season. Well, they will have all offseason and the whole season to think about this past years's game, because the Rockets and Rattlers won't play each other until the final game of the season on a Saturday next year. Judson's new school, Wagner, will make the playoffs in a shorter time period than Reagan did, oops, eventually will.

[RGVBadBoy]

I can appreciate your opinion and your point of view RGV but your "little" friend Finding Neo is making the Valley look bad. I always find it funny how people get online and talk sh*t. We call these people internet gangstas. I am more than sure nemo wouldn't talk that stuff in San Antonio cuz.
well that is why NeO got banned...and thats fine by me....he had his opinions and i wont knock him for them....as far as making the valley look bad....NOT REALLY, every one seems to have a PRE CONCIEVED NOTION of the RGV....yet they dont knwo enough about the RGV to make those assumptions. bottom line, i have lived in Laredo, the RGV and SanAntonio....LAREDO IS BY FAR the WORST PLACE I HAVE EVER LIVED....again, NOT a KNOCK against Laredo people, its not their fault there is a DRUG WAR going on in that City or in Mexico.... I went to school in SA, i attended UTSA, i liked SA fine, i wouldnt wanna stay there permanently, but if i had to, i PROBABLY wouldnt be too upset about it....NOW THE RGV.....the RGV is MY HOME, it CAN BE A TOUGH PLACE....people down here are KINDA QUICK TO THE PUNCH, so if you like to talk smack, THE RGV is NOT the place for you....HOWEVER, the RGV is a BEAUTIFUL PLACE for those who have not been to McAllen, Mission or Harlingen areas, ya'll dont know what your missing, if you think its gonna be GHETTO and all "MEXICAN" your in for a treat, the RGV has beautiful scenery and living conditions....if you think that ONLY MEXICANS live in the RGV your mistaken again....i would say ROUGHLY HALF of the population 40 to 50% are anglo or WHITE FOLKS....with a RAPIDLY INCREASING NUMBER of African Americans....

The RGV is a MELTING POT on the verge of becoming a Metropolis, with ethnicities and cultures all there own moving in, the economic growth is 2ND TO NONE and it improves our community EVERY DAY

[LoneRocket]

well that is why NeO got banned...and thats fine by me....he had his opinions and i wont knock him for them....as far as making the valley look bad....NOT REALLY, every one seems to have a PRE CONCIEVED NOTION of the RGV....yet they dont knwo enough about the RGV to make those assumptions. bottom line, i have lived in Laredo, the RGV and SanAntonio....LAREDO IS BY FAR the WORST PLACE I HAVE EVER LIVED....again, NOT a KNOCK against Laredo people, its not their fault there is a DRUG WAR going on in that City or in Mexico.... I went to school in SA, i attended UTSA, i liked SA fine, i wouldnt wanna stay there permanently, but if i had to, i PROBABLY wouldnt be too upset about it....NOW THE RGV.....the RGV is MY HOME, it CAN BE A TOUGH PLACE....people down here are KINDA QUICK TO THE PUNCH, so if you like to talk smack, THE RGV is NOT the place for you....HOWEVER, the RGV is a BEAUTIFUL PLACE for those who have not been to McAllen, Mission or Harlingen areas, ya'll dont know what your missing, if you think its gonna be GHETTO and all "MEXICAN" your in for a treat, the RGV has beautiful scenery and living conditions....if you think that ONLY MEXICANS live in the RGV your mistaken again....i would say ROUGHLY HALF of the population 40 to 50% are anglo or WHITE FOLKS....with a RAPIDLY INCREASING NUMBER of African Americans....

The RGV is a MELTING POT on the verge of becoming a Metropolis, with ethnicities and cultures all there own moving in, the economic growth is 2ND TO NONE and it improves our community EVERY DAY
My barber travels to the RGV a week out of each month to work, he says the same.

[Reaganrattler07]

I'm sure Reagan is working hard in the off season. Well, they will have all offseason and the whole season to think about this past years's game, because the Rockets and Rattlers won't play each other until the final game of the season on a Saturday next year. Judson's new school, Wagner, will make the playoffs in a shorter time period than Reagan did, oops, eventually will.

Uh...ok, we'll see if Wagner has the same success Reagan enjoyed when they first opened.

[CKE]

Clemens was a semi-final team in 2003.

Schertz is a suburb of San Antonio, btw...


lol i wonder why he didnt reply to this comment

[CKE]

Uh...ok, we'll see if Wagner has the same success Reagan enjoyed when they first opened.

the differnce will be coaching reagan did not have a cery good coach when they first opened. will wagner?

[Reaganrattler07]

the differnce will be coaching reagan did not have a cery good coach when they first opened. will wagner?

I'll second that. Who was the coach, do you know? Cause I moved here when it was Wetzel's first year.

I was also talking about Reagan Athletics in general in case there was any confusion.

[Firebird]

Badboy, I don't know what you are smoking if you think that 40-50% of the valley is Anglo. In Sharyland, maybe, but both Hidalgo and Cameron Co. are around 85% Mexican-American/Latin American, about 12-13% Anglo, the rest is Asian/African American.

I agree with everything else you said, though, so don't get all hot under the collar at me. The valley is a great place.

[DiamondJ2]

I'll second that. Who was the coach, do you know? Cause I moved here when it was Wetzel's first year.

I was also talking about Reagan Athletics in general in case there was any confusion.

1st coach at Reagan was Kincaid who was the coach at Churchill. No comment on his coaching at either school.

Since this is a football forum, I was talking about football, of course. Reagan is coming up on their 7th year in 5A. No way it will take 6+ years for Wagner to make playoffs.

[RGVBadBoy]

Badboy, I don't know what you are smoking if you think that 40-50% of the valley is Anglo. In Sharyland, maybe, but both Hidalgo and Cameron Co. are around 85% Mexican-American/Latin American, about 12-13% Anglo, the rest is Asian/African American.

I agree with everything else you said, though, so don't get all hot under the collar at me. The valley is a great place.
Sharyland and Mission have ALOT of whitefolks....especially Sharyland....McAllen has A BUNCH TOO...

[CKE]

I'll second that. Who was the coach, do you know? Cause I moved here when it was Wetzel's first year.

I was also talking about Reagan Athletics in general in case there was any confusion.

yeah reagan has a ton of great sports programs other than football

[Reaganrattler07]

1st coach at Reagan was Kincaid who was the coach at Churchill. No comment on his coaching at either school.

Since this is a football forum, I was talking about football, of course. Reagan is coming up on their 7th year in 5A. No way it will take 6+ years for Wagner to make playoffs.

Why'd they hire him though? At least they amde up for it by getting Wetzel....

[Royal85]

With all due respect, the Valley is 90% Hispanic. You have a few pockets in which there are some Anglos, plus the Winter Texans (which you can't really count)...but the vast majority of residents are Hispanic. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise..McAllen is not even close to a 40% or 50% ratio. It is still 90-10 or maybe an 85-15.

[RPM]

I am more than sure nemo wouldn't talk that stuff in San Antonio cuz.


LOLOLOLOL! big bad san antonio...

[CKE]

LOLOLOLOL! big bad san antonio...


you laugh a lot.......

[bubbacoach]

You know I do not understand why you guys are on the valley. They have good football that is well coached, they just lack some of the size and speed that other teams from the rest of the state has. Their traditions are strong, their coaching is good, and their pride is ever lasting. You guys from San Antonio dogging the valley need to realize that the rest of the state views San Antonio in the same way. They think we play second rate football here. Those of us who know anything about football and the strength of San Antonio know different. Lay off the Valley, They do play good football, they are well coached, and they do the best they can with what they are given. You know David Sanchez had good success while he was at Holmes, took them all the way to the Semi-finals. I know he beat a good Marshall team that year in the QTR FINALS. But now he is down in Laredo and not winning very many games. Did he become a bad coach or does he not have the same talent? You can get as much as one could give.

[Evil47]

The valley is a nice place, love the clubs, partys, palm tree enviorment, THE Island, and all the hot chicks. :) yes im a native and still living here

[RPM]

you laugh a lot.......

a lot of clowns and jokers on the board..im a very happy person...:)

[RGVBadBoy]

You know David Sanchez had good success while he was at Holmes, took them all the way to the Semi-finals. I know he beat a good Marshall team that year in the QTR FINALS. But now he is down in Laredo and not winning very many games. Did he become a bad coach or does he not have the same talent? You can get as much as one could give.
thank you for your support.....but David Sanchez is doing well, its his 2nd season with Laredo United....in his 1st year he transformed them from a 2-8 JOKE to a 7-4 playoff team, this past sesaon, his 2nd year, HE and UNITED went 11-2 losing to SmithsonValley 56-28 in the regional semi final...i think United scored the MOST points on SV all season

[CKE]

a lot of clowns and jokers on the board..im a very happy person...:)

happy people are cool..............

[RedRage00]

They almost pulled it off the past 2 years, I think the strength of schedules starts to show in the second half for Victoria. But I'm sure you guys are going to upset someone soon.

Yeah, we'll get past those pesky Panthers one year LOL

RR

[Mad Hatter]

just to run into judson :)

[LoneRocket]

thank you for your support.....but David Sanchez is doing well, its his 2nd season with Laredo United....in his 1st year he transformed them from a 2-8 JOKE to a 7-4 playoff team, this past sesaon, his 2nd year, HE and UNITED went 11-2 losing to SmithsonValley 56-28 in the regional semi final...i think United scored the MOST points on SV all season
Great I am glad he is doing well.

[LoneRocket]

just to run into judson :)
Hey!!!! Hey!!!!

[Mr_Lucci]

:) :)

[Mr_Lucci]

You know I do not understand why you guys are on the valley. .

Most guys who post from the Valley usually bring it upon themselves. So before you feel sorry for them you should read some of their post. Let me know and I will highlight some for you.

[Mr_Lucci]

LOLOLOLOL! big bad san antonio...

This coming from someone who lives in tiny donna in the slightly bigger rio grands valley. donna was known for having a decent football team but now it is known for something else having to do with the football team. Big Bad Donna LOLOLOL

[RPM]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....u still cant get that out your head...sorry but i dont make it a habit to keep things like that in mind..what ever floats your boat but knock yourself out though..mr big bad san antonian...

[RGVBadBoy]

i remember when i lived in SA....EVERY TIME I WENT OUT....there was a fight....NOT BETWEEN SA guys, but ALWAYS BETWEEN Valley and Laredo people....the SA people would always ALWAYS punk out...OR GET BEAT DOWN.....NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT....some people would rather take the HIGH road, but NOT in the RGV or Laredo....SO is the RGV a SLIGHTLY TOUGHER place to live than ANYWHERE ELSE IN TEXAS?!?!?!?! I THINK SO....

I KNOW I KNOW......its NOT a good thing, but when your talking "BIG BAD Donna" and "if you were in SA you wouldnt"....ya'll need to realize that we do things SLIGHTLY different than ya'll up north do....YES we still have class....but there is A LITTLE MORE "MACHISMO" down here

[CKE]

i remember when i lived in SA....EVERY TIME I WENT OUT....there was a fight....NOT BETWEEN SA guys, but ALWAYS BETWEEN Valley and Laredo people....the SA people would always ALWAYS punk out...OR GET BEAT DOWN.....NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT....some people would rather take the HIGH road, but NOT in the RGV or Laredo....SO is the RGV a SLIGHTLY TOUGHER place to live than ANYWHERE ELSE IN TEXAS?!?!?!?! I THINK SO....

I KNOW I KNOW......its NOT a good thing, but when your talking "BIG BAD Donna" and "if you were in SA you wouldnt"....ya'll need to realize that we do things SLIGHTLY different than ya'll up north do....YES we still have class....but there is A LITTLE MORE "MACHISMO" down here


yeah dude im sure that every single person in san antonio would punk out to a valley man casue we are sooooooo scared of all of them.............. that was just a stupid comment

[SeguinMatadors]

yeah dude im sure that every single person in san antonio would punk out to a valley man casue we are sooooooo scared of all of them.............. that was just a stupid comment

I agree...

[RPM]

i remember when i lived in SA....EVERY TIME I WENT OUT....there was a fight....NOT BETWEEN SA guys, but ALWAYS BETWEEN Valley and Laredo people....the SA people would always ALWAYS punk out...OR GET BEAT DOWN.....NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT....some people would rather take the HIGH road, but NOT in the RGV or Laredo....SO is the RGV a SLIGHTLY TOUGHER place to live than ANYWHERE ELSE IN TEXAS?!?!?!?! I THINK SO....

I KNOW I KNOW......its NOT a good thing, but when your talking "BIG BAD Donna" and "if you were in SA you wouldnt"....ya'll need to realize that we do things SLIGHTLY different than ya'll up north do....YES we still have class....but there is A LITTLE MORE "MACHISMO" down here


come on badboy..lets not get to to carried away..let this guys talk alll they want..cause thats all it is, is talk...were just some short skinny mexicanos trying to make it in this world...LOL! me being from lil ol Donna and all we all know I dont know what tough is...;)

[LoneRocket]

come on badboy..lets not get to to carried away..let this guys talk alll they want..cause thats all it is, is talk...were just some short skinny mexicanos trying to make it in this world...LOL! me being from lil ol Donna and all we all know I dont know what tough is...;)
I thought "the hill" was tough.

[RGVBadBoy]

yeah dude im sure that every single person in san antonio would punk out to a valley man casue we are sooooooo scared of all of them
NO, thats NOT what i said, thats JUST THE WAY IT WAS....i dont advocate fighting or get into fights (anymore) because im a grown MAN, but hey, thats the way it was.....DONT GET ME WRONG, i'm sure there are some SA boys that would NOT shy away from a few knuckle sandwiches, but TRUST ME, there are FEWER Valley boys that would back off....its THE WAY MOST OF US ARE RAISED....i cant explain it... all i can say is that places like the RGV and Laredo are HEAD OVER HEELS tougher than MOST places in Texas....and if theres ONE THING MEXICANS CAN DO....ITS THROW DOWN..

as far as Donna......YOU BETTER BE A BAD SOB TO LIVE AND PLAYFOOTBALL IN DONNA!!!!! Donna is a place all its own....ITS NOT GHETTO, there arent really SLUMS THERE, its actually QUITE the OPPOSITE it really rural, with lots of ranches and farms.....there are ALOT of HUGE EXPENSIVE HOMES....but NOT REALLY ALOT OF HIGH PAYING JOBS....if you knwo what i mean, those are some BAD MOFOS that will kill you for looking at them wrong....Donna is a very tough place....they find dead bodies out their by the canals ALL THE TIME....

Either way, all FIGHTING IS BAD....it is FAR better to resolve problems peacefully, but unfortunately alot of SOCIETY as a whole doesnt see things that way...if they EVER do, we'll be in a better place.

[SeguinMatadors]

NO, thats NOT what i said, thats JUST THE WAY IT WAS....i dont advocate fighting or get into fights (anymore) because im a grown MAN, but hey, thats the way it was.....DONT GET ME WRONG, i'm sure there are some SA boys that would NOT shy away from a few knuckle sandwiches, but TRUST ME, there are FEWER Valley boys that would back off....its THE WAY MOST OF US ARE RAISED....i cant explain it... all i can say is that places like the RGV and Laredo are HEAD OVER HEELS tougher than MOST places in Texas....and if theres ONE THING MEXICANS CAN DO....ITS THROW DOWN..

Either way, all FIGHTING IS BAD....it is FAR better to resolve problems peacefully, but unfortunately alot of SOCIETY as a whole doesnt see things that way...if they EVER do, we'll be in a better place.

Basically what you are saying is the valley is full of thugs? I am sorry us in SA and central Texas were brought up better than to go out, get drunk, and get into fights. Seriously, you are pumping your chest out over something that you should be ashamed of. You say fighting is bad yet you belittle us because we choose not to?

I, like my friends, am not scared to fight.... but we aren't going to go out looking for trouble because we are civilized and have values and have the basic concept of right and wrong nailed down.

As far as Hispanics go, I have fought 3 of them and handled every one of them very easily.... I didn't go looking for it... they asked for it in various ways.:rolleyes:

[LoneRocket]

NO, thats NOT what i said, thats JUST THE WAY IT WAS....i dont advocate fighting or get into fights (anymore) because im a grown MAN, but hey, thats the way it was.....DONT GET ME WRONG, i'm sure there are some SA boys that would NOT shy away from a few knuckle sandwiches, but TRUST ME, there are FEWER Valley boys that would back off....its THE WAY MOST OF US ARE RAISED....i cant explain it... all i can say is that places like the RGV and Laredo are HEAD OVER HEELS tougher than MOST places in Texas....and if theres ONE THING MEXICANS CAN DO....ITS THROW DOWN..

as far as Donna......YOU BETTER BE A BAD SOB TO LIVE AND PLAYFOOTBALL IN DONNA!!!!! Donna is a place all its own....ITS NOT GHETTO, there arent really SLUMS THERE, its actually QUITE the OPPOSITE it really rural, with lots of ranches and farms.....there are ALOT of HUGE EXPENSIVE HOMES....but NOT REALLY ALOT OF HIGH PAYING JOBS....if you knwo what i mean, those are some BAD MOFOS that will kill you for looking at them wrong....Donna is a very tough place....they find dead bodies out their by the canals ALL THE TIME....

Either way, all FIGHTING IS BAD....it is FAR better to resolve problems peacefully, but unfortunately alot of SOCIETY as a whole doesnt see things that way...if they EVER do, we'll be in a better place.
Think if a coach could take all of that Valley energy and focus it on the football field, you guys would be dangerous.

[CKE]

NO, thats NOT what i said, thats JUST THE WAY IT WAS....i dont advocate fighting or get into fights (anymore) because im a grown MAN, but hey, thats the way it was.....DONT GET ME WRONG, i'm sure there are some SA boys that would NOT shy away from a few knuckle sandwiches, but TRUST ME, there are FEWER Valley boys that would back off....its THE WAY MOST OF US ARE RAISED....i cant explain it... all i can say is that places like the RGV and Laredo are HEAD OVER HEELS tougher than MOST places in Texas....and if theres ONE THING MEXICANS CAN DO....ITS THROW DOWN..

as far as Donna......YOU BETTER BE A BAD SOB TO LIVE AND PLAYFOOTBALL IN DONNA!!!!! Donna is a place all its own....ITS NOT GHETTO, there arent really SLUMS THERE, its actually QUITE the OPPOSITE it really rural, with lots of ranches and farms.....there are ALOT of HUGE EXPENSIVE HOMES....but NOT REALLY ALOT OF HIGH PAYING JOBS....if you knwo what i mean, those are some BAD MOFOS that will kill you for looking at them wrong....Donna is a very tough place....they find dead bodies out their by the canals ALL THE TIME....

Either way, all FIGHTING IS BAD....it is FAR better to resolve problems peacefully, but unfortunately alot of SOCIETY as a whole doesnt see things that way...if they EVER do, we'll be in a better place.



then why would you try to bring up SA people backing down to a valley person. im trying to argue you are just not making much sense friend

[CKE]

As far as Hispanics go, I have fought 3 of them and handled every one of them very easily.... I didn't go looking for it... they asked for it in various ways.:rolleyes:

lmao that was funny

[LoneRocket]

As far as Hispanics go, I have fought 3 of them and handled every one of them very easily.... I didn't go looking for it... they asked for it in various ways.:rolleyes:
All at once or one at a time, man you are a bad dude.:cool:

[RPM]

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[CKE]

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lol that was funny too

[RPM]

yall let me know when u done talking...commandos...