Clint Renfro Highlights!

[brad@sunshinepreps]

Here you go guys, Told you I should have more Texas stuff up soon. Hope you guys like the highlights.

http://sunshinepreps.net/content/view/265/2/

[dragons08]

those are some great highlights, thanks for putting it together

[RGVBadBoy]

i dont see how anyone can even think that this kid is NOT a division 1 athlete?!!?!?! :confused: the kid has phenomenal speed and he looked that good against some of the top programs in the STATE!!!!! SmithsonValley, Denton Ryan were both ranked highly and they were both in that hilight real.....the kid has SPEED, SPEED, SPEED!!!!!!

[dentonRYAN]

That last play is what I remember ever time i hear his name....that catch on ESPN. That kid is good, really good. Its one of those things, that you hate cuz he is not on your team.

That video also reminds me of how good Chase Danials was... with that great arm and running out of the pocket.

[RidgePride]

I did not realize how much Renfro shied away from contact. I guess that happens when you are 6' and weigh 160.

[VB Pack Fan]

Everyone is talking about how good this kid is.Well he should be, look at who is dad is.This kid most likey has been catching footballs since he was five years old, with dad coaching him.But there are a lot of kids catching balls that can run just as fast as Renfro.Lufkin had a kid name Holman in 02 and 03 that could do the same things,and he was only 5,9. Made db,s shake their heads and wonder how he did that.And I,m sure he can play D 1 ball, but he had better hit the weight room if he,s only 160 or 170 pounds, because those corners and safeties will kill him. They love to blind side recievers coming across on slants . :eek:

[dentonRYAN]

no only dad.... his grandfather played in the NFL also

ok...think about it...SLC has like 3 players that come from NFL families....woouldnt it be funny if the kid Deion Sanders is adopting would play for SLC...

[drgnbkr]

It's a tuff 40 mile commute from Prosper to Southlake!

[dentonRYAN]

Deion could live anywhere he wants...lol

or what about Denton Ryan... i live 1 minute from the Denton/ Prosper district line....

...but i know that will never happen...too bad

[RPM]

in most of those plays the CBs were at least 9 yards away...did he ever face a CB that played bump up front with speed...and how did he do???.I know there was a play at the end of the video where the CB played up front but didnt match his speed..just curious if he was as effective when the CB was up front..

[dentonRYAN]

the CBs were 8 ft in front because he out ran them....

[RidgePride]

in most of those plays the CBs were at least 9 yards away...did he ever face a CB that played bump up front with speed...and how did he do???.I know there was a play at the end of the video where the CB played up front but didnt match his speed..just curious if he was as effective when the CB was up front..


Of course he faced bump coverage - For some reason even at 160/170 he can get off the line. Good technique I guess

[dragonsdaddy]

when he gets to 170 he'll be the happiest kid in slc. he played last year at a smooth 150, usually. he weighed less sometimes. he never shied away from contact when he had to. he was taught to play for the whole season, not the 1 extra meaningless yard. he plays wr, my heavens, not safety. and everyone that was after him outweighed him, usually by a lot.

[Favpack]

Of course he faced bump coverage - For some reason even at 160/170 he can get off the line. Good technique I guess

He had bump cov. in the first DR game - burned 'em like toast. Lufkin played him very soft - too soft - but even the good corners don't have the technique to stick at that level - and our best corner was out. I think he was much less a factor against AHS - but I don't know how they played him.

[dragonsdaddy]

they played him soft with over the top help which meant other receivers were open and were thrown to as the spread offense does when run correctly. he could have been forced fed more but when the defense gives something up, dodge takes advantage of it.

[VB Pack Fan]

Not bragging because I,m from Lufkin ,but a healthy Hewitt could have covered him, 11 picks and one with a torn acl. All of us must remember that the o line was giving daniels time to throw.No qb can throw the deep balls if he can get the time.Slc just has it together right now.

[dragonsdaddy]

clint's only possible weakness is based on his size and the ability to get off the line with good press coverage. he works on it daily and as he has bulked up a few pounds and should continue to grow, he should be able to break press coverage better and better with resultant destruction of said coverage. i hope to see those 2 go at it again and again.

[LarryFine]

i dont see how anyone can even think that this kid is NOT a division 1 athlete?!!?!?! Watch the highlight video. His plays come from using his speed to get behind the D. In D1, most CBs will be as fast as him, & nearly half the S will be too. Tech has a S, Vincent Meeks, who is faster. I don't think Clint shys away from contact, but he didn't break a lot of tackles either.

Before the SLC crowd comes in and tells me how stupid I am, I think there is a great chance Clint ends up at Tech and I am pretty happy about it. The way our O creates space will allow Clint to be effective, where he may struggle past CBs who are bigger than him in more conventional O that put him basically 1 on 1.

[RidgePride]

Watch the highlight video. His plays come from using his speed to get behind the D. In D1, most CBs will be as fast as him, & nearly half the S will be too. Tech has a S, Vincent Meeks, who is faster. I don't think Clint shys away from contact, but he didn't break a lot of tackles either.

Before the SLC crowd comes in and tells me how stupid I am, I think there is a great chance Clint ends up at Tech and I am pretty happy about it. The way our O creates space will allow Clint to be effective, where he may struggle past CBs who are bigger than him in more conventional O that put him basically 1 on 1.


You never know, he could be another Steve Largent.

[dragonfootballfan]

Watch the highlight video. His plays come from using his speed to get behind the D. In D1, most CBs will be as fast as him, & nearly half the S will be too. Tech has a S, Vincent Meeks, who is faster. I don't think Clint shys away from contact, but he didn't break a lot of tackles either.

Before the SLC crowd comes in and tells me how stupid I am, I think there is a great chance Clint ends up at Tech and I am pretty happy about it. The way our O creates space will allow Clint to be effective, where he may struggle past CBs who are bigger than him in more conventional O that put him basically 1 on 1.
he went up against some of the fastest DBs in the state including that longhorn recruit from Denton Ryan. Even teams like Lufkin respected his speed by backing up their DBs that far. What you seem to be overlooking is that is route running ability is probably the best in the state

[RidgePride]

he went up against some of the fastest DBs in the state including that longhorn recruit from Denton Ryan. Even teams like Lufkin respected his speed by backing up their DBs that far. What you seem to be overlooking is that is route running ability is probably the best in the state


That is true - He has already played against D1 Talent. It's not like when he goes to college - those same high school D1 players get much faster.

[RGVBadBoy]

i dont know about his route running being the best in the state, but he is pretty damb good...... i think he'll be fine against some of the D1 dbs, i dont really think too many of them are faster than Renfro, and as far as Vincent Meeks goes, i dont know of many guys faster than that guy, i read somewhere that they HAND timed him at 4.1 seconds..... what i do know is that the WRs from Oklahoma were getting open against him all day, so i definetly think Renfro is a D1 kid..

[dragonfootballfan]

I think its funny whenever there is a video of a guy, he is never any good its just that the defenses that he went up against were not good. Or this stuff works in high school but not in college. Nobody really thinks that anybody is any good even if he burned your team for 200 yards and 3 touchdowns you would say that he is not going to be good in college.

[dragonfootballfan]

I think its funny whenever there is a video of a guy, he is never any good its just that the defenses that he went up against were not good. Or this stuff works in high school but not in college. Nobody really thinks that anybody is any good even if he burned your team for 200 yards and 3 touchdowns you would say that he is not going to be good in college.

[drgnbkr]

Okay, Okay...to the double post...All I know is..I'm glad Clint is wearing the green Dragon's uni & our guys don't have to cover him....barring injury, he will be one of the best receivers anywhere...The college thing will take care of itself for someone as talented as Renfro..

[BigFanSLC]

I'm glad that the Carroll Offense is what they are, because the Defense gets to practice against the top Offense in the state everyday..... that's why the defense is always good at Carroll even though they don't physically look good enough, they can cover and tackle some of the best in TXHS Fball.

[NewSherriffInTown]

Carroll's D has gone from bad to okay, to adequate, to reasonably good, to the best in TX....nice

[LarryFine]

he went up against some of the fastest DBs in the state including that longhorn recruit from Denton Ryan. Even teams like Lufkin respected his speed by backing up their DBs that far. What you seem to be overlooking is that is route running ability is probably the best in the stateI'm not overlooking his route running. Ishie is a 5'9 SAFETY. He is a playmaker, but doesn't physically intimidate WR. The CBs he will go up against in Big 12 will be 6' playmakers, who can jam him at the line & nullify his speed more often than not.

There is a big difference in playing a team like Lufkin or Ryan with some in incredible talent and playing against a team where everyone on D is equal to the stars on Lufkin or Ryan. Every kid at Tech, Texas, OU, KSU, etc, was an All-District player in high school.

[drgnbkr]

Carroll's D has gone from bad to okay, to adequate, to reasonably good, to the best in TX....nice

What is this? Carroll's D has always been very good...look at the record over the past 3 decades...

[RidgePride]

I'm not overlooking his route running. Ishie is a 5'9 SAFETY. He is a playmaker, but doesn't physically intimidate WR. The CBs he will go up against in Big 12 will be 6' playmakers, who can jam him at the line & nullify his speed more often than not.

There is a big difference in playing a team like Lufkin or Ryan with some in incredible talent and playing against a team where everyone on D is equal to the stars on Lufkin or Ryan. Every kid at Tech, Texas, OU, KSU, etc, was an All-District player in high school.


I don't know if you have played D1 football, but I have. Ishie is a typical college athlete. Why do you think Texas wanted him.
Most D1 (and NFL) Cornerbacks are in that 5'8" - 5'11" range. They run about 4.5 forties.

I've seen D1 receivers that are not as good as Renfro.

[dentonRYAN]

i know SLC has some good recievers this year....but some Carroll fan talked to me one day and told me that Renfro is not even the best reciever on that team....is that true? becuase i remember someone being hurt during last season

[RidgePride]

i know SLC has some good recievers this year....but some Carroll fan talked to me one day and told me that Renfro is not even the best reciever on that team....is that true? becuase i remember someone being hurt during last season


He is certainly the biggest name -

Jacobson - Went to state in the 200 his sophomore year -(was hurt last year)
Allen - 6'3" - 6'4" ish - with hands
I don't know who the 4th receiver is.

[LarryFine]

I don't know if you have played D1 football, but I have. Ishie is a typical college athlete. Why do you think Texas wanted him.
Most D1 (and NFL) Cornerbacks are in that 5'8" - 5'11" range. They run about 4.5 forties.

I've seen D1 receivers that are not as good as Renfro.I'll wait until I see Renfro actually play in D1 before I'll draw that comparisson. As to the rest of your post, I don't think you read my post very well.

Ishie is a 5'9 SAFETY, not CB. I know he is good, he decommitted from Tech to go to Texas. I would LOVE for him to play for Tech. However, we're still talking about 1 or 2 players on a high school D. Every defensive player at Tech or Texas will be as good as or better than Ishie. It is one thing to look good against a Denton Ryan D with a couple of players who can play for Tech or Texas and against a Tech or Texas defense full of players like Ishie.

CBs in big time D1 are getting taller. Tech only has 1 in the 2 deep under 5'11. The shortest safety is Meeks, who is right at 6' and is faster than Renfro. I don't know Texas' roster that well, but I am sure they are in a similar position, as is probably OU.

No, I never played D1 ball, so all my opinions on this board are totally useless.

[RidgePride]

No, I never played D1 ball, so all my opinions on this board are totally useless.


Thats what I was thinking - You just beat me to it.


Anyways - I don't Think Ishie will play safety in college - I think he will play CB - Why would Texas Want Ishie if he did not fit in with the other players they have? How tall do you think (Cowboys) Roy Williams is?... He's about 5'11"

Height and Weight are like 40 times - They are inflated.
Have you seen these guys in person?

I was listed at 6' 195 in college - - I was really 5'10 about 185 -

I guess I am one of the few on this board that actually was a 3 year Varsity starter on a playoff team.

Played D1 Football

[implacable44]

what -- height is not inflated. Haven't you participated in the discussion about lil dodge being 6'10" - er actually I think it ended at 5'11 or 6'0". Are you saying that I didn't shrink? - Because I was listed as 6'3" 180 and I was 6'0" 160. I thought I shrunk and what I lost in height I gained in weight. They inflate figures like that? -- 40 times too ? I thought everyone ran a 4.4 -- man Does Dan Rather prepare these press releases or something ? I mean is that where all the unemployed 60 minutes folks have gone ? Preparing press releases for athletes?

[LarryFine]

Thats what I was thinking - You just beat me to it.
Height and Weight are like 40 times - They are inflated.
Have you seen these guys in person?

Been around many NFL players - and a few NFL parties. As a matter of fact I was invited to a Roy Williams barbecue about 3 weeks ago.Of course not playing makes me an idiot. Would that still be the case if I agreed with you? :D :cool:

Yes, I've seen these guys in person. Seen a lot more than you obviously think. And I know how tall I am. ;) Some schools over inflate, some just round up. Spike Dykes used to round down.

Never been cool enough to be invited to a NFL barbecue but been around NFL players, college players, and high school players. I have been around MLB, NBA, and NHL players too. It really isn't that hard to do or that big a deal.

[NewSherriffInTown]

What is this? Carroll's D has always been very good...look at the record over the past 3 decades...


I'm saying what people say about their defense, we've heard all of those things.

I just think its weird for some people to think they are pitiful and others who think they are one of the best.

[dragonfootballfan]

I don't see the difference of being covered by one good college DB or three very good high school DB's like he was last season

[BAMF cowboy]

i know SLC has some good recievers this year....but some Carroll fan talked to me one day and told me that Renfro is not even the best reciever on that team....is that true? becuase i remember someone being hurt during last season

At the beginning of the 2004, Mckay Jacobson was the big name receiver of the offense. However, he got hurt during the 4th game of the season at Fossill Ridge and was out until a couple games into playoffs. His injury allowed for the breakout years for specifically Renfro, but Allen also. McKay, being a sophomore at the time, was a starter on the 2003 team, and was maybe even the best of the group? (Subject to opinion) He caught literally everything thrown his way. It'll be interesting to see McKay's sucess this season, being that so many teams will focus on Renfro.

[drgnbkr]

McKay was also an amazing punt returner before the injury, with unusual acceleration..it will be tuff to handle the wides if he is all the way back this year...

[BAMF cowboy]

Yeah Midland Lee can tell you abou that one!!! I think it was two punt returns for TDs? And another that was called back?

[LarryFine]

I don't see the difference of being covered by one good college DB or three very good high school DB's like he was last seasonBetter DL to pressure the QB, better LBs to take away TE & RB pass options, better DBs to dobule up or take away the other guy. While I never played college ball, it isn't rocket science.

Yes, the rest of the O will be better too to help Clint, but still a big step up. Here is an example, Tech has a JR WR from Arizona who was their offensive player of the year as a SR, he averaged 9 yards a run, 14 yards a catch, and 40 yards a kick return. He also was a top sprinter and hurdler. He is at least 6'3, 210. Sure sounds like a blue chip any way you look at it. Can't miss, right? He struggled in a redshirt year, barely did anything as a FR, and had more drops than catches until he finally broke out agaist Cal in the Holiday Bowl. About the only thing he did early last season was block down field, something a 160 or even 170 pound WR will struggle with against D1 safeties.

Being an All-State player doesn't make you a blue chip.

[RidgePride]

Better DL to pressure the QB, better LBs to take away TE & RB pass options, better DBs to dobule up or take away the other guy. While I never played college ball, it isn't rocket science.

Yes, the rest of the O will be better too to help Clint, but still a big step up. Here is an example, Tech has a JR WR from Arizona who was their offensive player of the year as a SR, he averaged 9 yards a run, 14 yards a catch, and 40 yards a kick return. He also was a top sprinter and hurdler. He is at least 6'3, 210. Sure sounds like a blue chip any way you look at it. Can't miss, right? He struggled in a redshirt year, barely did anything as a FR, and had more drops than catches until he finally broke out agaist Cal in the Holiday Bowl. About the only thing he did early last season was block down field, something a 160 or even 170 pound WR will struggle with against D1 safeties.

Being an All-State player doesn't make you a blue chip.


It really depends on the player. One guy is 6'3" struggled in his FRESHMAN year is a real weak argument.
Many freshman struggle just to get playing time. You can't say just because he couldn't do it that Renfro will follow the same path.

Being 170 alone will not be a problem for Renfro if he is strong.


How much does Warrick Dunn Weigh - 5'7" 175 Running Back NFL.

I would be willing to bet that every NFL team has receivers or cornerbacks that weigh around 170.

Height and weight are overrated. It should be - Can He get it done.

[raidercheerdad]

Tech has a JR WR from Arizona .Do they really play HS football in Arizona? Stats are just that! You have to take into account who the stats were against and what level of play it was. They may have great football there, but if so, where are all there recruits nationally and why aren't we hearing about them?

Two of Baylor's best WR/KR's ever were in the late 70's and early 80's -- Bruce Smith and Gerald McNeil. Neither was over 5'8" and 160lbs. Gerald actually played several years for Cleveland in the NFL!

[LarryFine]

It really depends on the player. One guy is 6'3" struggled in his FRESHMAN year is a real weak argument.I figured I would get that. I'm not a little surprised you didn't read my post completely either. I said Filani struggled until the bowl game his SOPHOMORE season. So that is two seasons after a redshirt year.

What about one of Mesquite's playoff hero in their state title run? He hasn't done anything at all. The one who has was lightly recruited Jarrett Hicks, who is right at 6'3, 200 plus, and runs a 4.6 on a good day. The one Longhorns and Aggies made fun of us for showing any excitement when he signed. But you are right, it does depend on the player.

Yes they play football in Arizona and no it isn't the same level of competition as Texas, but the level of competition argument isn't valid here if I can use it in discussing the difference between Texas 5A and D1 teams in a BCS conference. ;)

[RidgePride]

What about one of Mesquite's playoff hero in their state title run? He hasn't done anything at all. The one who has was lightly recruited Jarrett Hicks, who is right at 6'3, 200 plus, and runs a 4.6 on a good day.

What about him? There are so many variables that factor in to guys being busts in college or NFL. (Wrong System - Home Sick - Dog house with coach etc)

Really it is just my opinion that if Renfro gets to about 170 pounds he will be just fine in College.

I have played with these guys - and most of their height - weight and 40 times are bogus.

If he can burn D1 guys in high school, he can do it in college - The only thing is that he has to get stronger because the other guys will be.


As soon as he gets to college they will have his butt in the weight room.

[NewSherriffInTown]

Toledo has a starting sophomore CB, Nigel Morris from NY.


He is 162 pounds.

He started last year as a reshirt freshmen.


If a kid from NY that was 155 pounds in HS can get recruited D1, I think the most popular WR from a nationally televised national champion will go D1.

[pack4life]

Toledo has a starting sophomore CB, Nigel Morris from NY.


He is 162 pounds.

He started last year as a reshirt freshmen.


If a kid from NY that was 155 pounds in HS can get recruited D1, I think the most popular WR from a nationally televised national champion will go D1.

Case Closed :cool:

[BAMF cowboy]

Anyone heard of a guy called Roscoe Parrish? Anyone?

[stadiumrat]

to Post#5
regarding cllint renfro size and weight...I sure hope Clint goes to TCU like his father...they put 35 pounds on Panfil/North Crowley this year so that shouldn't be a consideration... Renfro doesn't shy away from hits...watching him play is a real pleasure... :)

[LarryFine]

What about him? There are so many variables that factor in to guys being busts in college or NFL. (Wrong System - Home Sick - Dog house with coach etc)I agree w/ just about everything you posted in this tread except that I don't understand because I didn't play ;) and that Renfro is a big time D1 prospect. Philip Payne already committed to Texas and was no where near the best WR South Garland had and split time at RB. There is not a chance Renfro gets offered by Texas.

RidgePride, I agree there are a million variables to help make or break a player, which is why college coaches do whatever they can to put the odds in their favor and use HT/WT/40 and camp workouts to narrow down their offers. In the day and age of only 25 scholarships, coaches are extremely careful. It is why Philip Payne has an offer from Texas and Clint Renfro doesn't.

Clint going to TCU would be huge for them due to the trouble their track team is in, but that may be the very reason Clint doesn't go to TCU. If he does run track in college, he isn't going to gain 35 pounds.

Clint's quickest way to D1 play time is North Texas. He could start as a WR and star on the track team. He would be most effective at Tech.

[drgnbkr]

Larryfine..are you the poster formerly known as Technote?

[dragonsdaddy]

unt has never had or shown any interest in a single slc player. strange but true. don't know exactly why the closest d-1 school to slc has never offered a single player.

[RidgePride]

I agree w/ just about everything you posted in this tread except that I don't understand because I didn't play ;) and that Renfro is a big time D1 prospect.


I was kidding about the "not playing so you don't understand" thing.
I don't think Renfro is a big time D1 prospect but I do think he is capable of playing D1.

As of now I see him as a second tier D1 player.

Like you said - Texas Tech sounds like a good fit.

[LeanderLions3033]

If he builds upperbody strength at a high rate, we'll be special. I just don't see him being able to run these same crisp routes hes running in high school at the next level, just because he looks weak (i'm not saying he is weak, but he certainly looks the part). McKay Jacobsen i think will be fairly successful at the next level because he has the weight. I could see him eventually being their number 1 reciever down the road, but i couldnt ever see Renfro doing the same, just because of his size. Thats just my opinion. He is a very dominating high school reciever though, and theres nothing anybody can take away from that.

[ALLSTAR]

no only dad.... his grandfather played in the NFL also

ok...think about it...SLC has like 3 players that come from NFL families....woouldnt it be funny if the kid Deion Sanders is adopting would play for SLC...

who else has NFL families?

[dragonsdaddy]

newton and renfro at present are the only ones of which i am aware.

[BAMF cowboy]

Bryce Buford the center is son of a former bears Punter??? Strange combination but true.

[dragonsdaddy]

good pickup. i forgot about that connection.

[LarryFine]

I was kidding about the "not playing so you don't understand" thing.
I don't think Renfro is a big time D1 prospect but I do think he is capable of playing D1.

As of now I see him as a second tier D1 player.

Like you said - Texas Tech sounds like a good fit.Are you saying Tech is tier 2???? ;) :confused: ;) I never take things on these boards too seriously. I think Renfro makes D1 and contributes.

[brad@sunshinepreps]

If Tech is 2nd tier, than most of the big 12 is. There is no doubt TT is not a top 40 program almost every year. Hell last year they ended in the top 20 in both polls.