Top 10 High Schools producing D-1 players

[ET2005]

Here's a nice article about a school in Ohio. I don't have a Rivals account, maybe someone can access this and tell give us the Top 10 High School list.

http://rivals100.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=428265

[Papa LoneStar]

It says 6 of the 10 are in Cali or Texas.............*patiently waiting*

[supercentex]

LaMarque
Spring Westfield
North Shore
Tyler Lee
Waco
Lufkin
Longview
Klein Forest


These are the ones I can think of that might be on that list.

[concha]

What they don't talk about in that article is the speed that Glenville puts on the field. Last year at the national outdoor track & field championships (I believe in NC), Glenville got 1st and 3rd in the 4x100 relays ('A' and 'B' teams). Nearly all, if not all, of the runners were football players. That's at least 8 seriously fast kids. Scary.

Colerain looks to be making a move to get onto that national top 10 list. I don't know about 2003, but last year they had 5 D1As and they are looking at at least another 5 this year (2 LBs, 2 o-linemen, one RB are virtual locks thusfar) and maybe more.

[GarlandOwl06]

gotta put my school out there because we have put out 88 players in the last 12 years

[concha]

Though it says "D1", it appears they are referring to D1As. Am I correct?

[pack0808]

lufkin and 4a lamarque have had the most div1 recruits in texas in the last 2 years i am almost positive?? i am not talking div1aa or div2 or div3 or naia i am talking legit div1 recruits. lufkin has had 11 in the last 2 years and lamarque has had 11 or 12 in the past 2 years. lufkin has had 20 scholarships total in those 2 years.

[pack0808]

when i say div1 recruit i am not talking div1aa like sfa and mcneese st concha. some count 1aa when they div1 recruits but i disagree. if that was the case lufkin has had more then 11 in the last 2 years. div1 and div1aa are 2 completely different leagues competing for different titles.

[concha]

when i say div1 recruit i am not talking div1aa like sfa and mcneese st concha. some count 1aa when they div1 recruits but i disagree. if that was the case lufkin has had more then 11 in the last 2 years. div1 and div1aa are 2 completely different leagues competing for different titles.

I hear you.

Colerain had about a dozen kids get scholies last year, but just 5 were D1A. This year it'll be another 5 at least. Glenville looks to have <<stupid number>> of D1As and scholies in general this year.

[Texasfrog]

when i say div1 recruit i am not talking div1aa like sfa and mcneese st concha. some count 1aa when they div1 recruits but i disagree. if that was the case lufkin has had more then 11 in the last 2 years. div1 and div1aa are 2 completely different leagues competing for different titles.

Irving Mac. had 9 kids this past year commit to D-1A schools. This season it looks like they will have about 6. Their two "LB's" have already committed to Oklahoma St. this year.

Lamarque had 9 kids in 2004 sign D-1A and this year they had 3 if you include FS-Clarence Ward who transfered out in early September for Pensacola, Fla.

This past season kids that started for the 2003 Lamarque 4A Title team as juniors:

RB- Ball - Florida St.
CB- Mangum - Fla St.
FS- C. Ward - Fla St.

[Red Raiders]

I think Tyler Lee has 4 or 5 Div-1 and last year they had 1 or 2 I forgot.

[RGVBadBoy]

LaMarque
Spring Westfield
North Shore
Tyler Lee
Waco
Lufkin
Longview
Klein Forest


These are the ones I can think of that might be on that list.
i gotta agree with that for the most part, but lets not forget about Midland Lee and Dallas Carter, both of those schools produce them left and right.....IMO i think LaMarque probably has had the most D1 caliber players, shoot in 03' i think they had like 17 sign major D1 scholorships..

[LeanderLions3033]

The Garland schools put out a bunch of talent every year, as do the mesquite schools it seems like. Just a few that nobody has mentioned.

[NewSherriffInTown]

Frog...

we were talking a few weeks ago about Texas vs Florida...and you made a comment about Texas schools having to deal with losing talent to other state colleges, etc...


Straight from Texas Football magazine...


When you subtract the 7 Florida colleges and the 10 texas colleges...


FLORIDA LOSES MORE TALENT TO OUT OF STATE COLLEGES THAN ANYONE IN THE COUNTRY. 196 players.

I think that offsets your argument.

[Texasfrog]

Frog...

we were talking a few weeks ago about Texas vs Florida...and you made a comment about Texas schools having to deal with losing talent to other state colleges, etc...


Straight from Texas Football magazine...


When you subtract the 7 Florida colleges and the 10 texas colleges...


FLORIDA LOSES MORE TALENT TO OUT OF STATE COLLEGES THAN ANYONE IN THE COUNTRY. 196 players.

I think that offsets your argument.

Go back and read the post again.. I even posted the BCS Conferences signees from Texas and Florida slippy. Florida had like 150 sign to BCS Conference schools outside of Florida and Texas had like 144 sign with BCS schools outside of Texas.

Some years Texas may led by a few some years Florida may led by a few.

Texas has more kids sign D-1A and D-1AA over Florida.

PS. The whole argument about D-1A talent is kind of a mute point most years in Texas. Most of the time its schools with only a few D-1A caliber players that win State. Heck, most of the time they beat up on a team that has about a 4/1 ratio of D-1A players compared to themselves.

It comes down to good coaching, good program, and good so called "AVERAGE PLAYERS" that win it all 90% of the time in Texas.

Again.. you trying to debate with me on Texas football still cracks me up.

You really need to go see about 100 games and spend about 20 years really following Texas football and than "MAYBE" you'll be able to hold a strong conversation with me about Texas football. Just my thought. But, hey keep trying.. you know the story about the little train that thought he could right..? Well, keep trying Chut chut..

[rantanamo]

Without reading the article, having 5 D1 signees in a year should not put one that list. No way.

[Texasfrog]

What they don't talk about in that article is the speed that Glenville puts on the field. Last year at the national outdoor track & field championships (I believe in NC), Glenville got 1st and 3rd in the 4x100 relays ('A' and 'B' teams). Nearly all, if not all, of the runners were football players. That's at least 8 seriously fast kids. Scary.

Colerain looks to be making a move to get onto that national top 10 list. I don't know about 2003, but last year they had 5 D1As and they are looking at at least another 5 this year (2 LBs, 2 o-linemen, one RB are virtual locks thusfar) and maybe more.

Conchee.. go take a look at the 2005 Ohio (OHSAA) State track results and then go take a look at the 2005 Texas (UIL) State track results and come back and talk to me.

Take a look at the 100m times, 200M times, 4x100 times, 4x200 times. Make sure you look at the Texas 5A, 4A and 3A results while you're at it. Heck, Texas has some 3A schools that would of been the big school champs in Ohio.

Most the time the Ohio 2nd place team in those events wouldnt of even been in the Texas final.

Dont get me wrong partner. Glenville got some fast boys. Right there with about 20 Texas schools overall. Speed.... Come on man !!! You're talking about Texas here dude.

Go look at the results and get back with me ok.

Colerain 4x200 team with all its "football players" would of been an after thought in Texas. I doubt they would of made it out of the regional track meet.

Heck man.. maybe all those track results arent real and I'm just being a false informaton, misleading "HOMER" again.

[RidgePride]

State Meet results 2005

TX


100 meters
Matthew Harding South Garlnd 10.63 -0.5
2 Randy Johnson Houston Eisenhow 10.74 -0.5
3 Shane Jones San Anton Roosev 10.74 -0.5
4 Trevor Cavness Alief Elsik 10.74 -0.5
5 Ricky Norris Irving 10.75 -0.5

OH



1 Brandon Saine 10 Piqua 10.86 0.8
2 Aeric Clay 10 Tol. Whitmer 10.88 0.8
3 Benja'Lan Provitt 12 Warren G. Ha 10.89 0.8
4 Freddie Lenix 12 Cle. Glenvil 10.99 0.8
5 Keith Massey 12 Col. Brookha 11.01 0.8

4X100

TX

1.Houston Eisenhower 40.75
2 Dallas Carter 40.82
3 Katy Cinco Ranch 40.97
4 Dallas Samuell 41.24
5 Converse Judson 41.37


OH

Finals
1 Cle. Glenville 41.67 Sorry... Did not make top 5 in TX
2 Day. Dunbar 42.02 8
3 Cle. St. Ignatius 42.06 6
4 Tol. Scott 42.46 5
5 Gahanna Lincoln 42.67 4

200 meter dash

TX

1 Daniel Johnson HO Sprng Wod 21.31 -0.8
2 Edwin Shankle Lufkin 21.59 -0.8
3 Matthew Harding South Garlnd 21.60 -0.8
4 Chris Dykes HO Aldine 21.62 -0.8
5 Sharmarr Singleton Cedar Hill 21.90 -0.8


OH
Finals
1 Benja'Lan Provitt 12 Warren G. Ha 21.52 +0.0 NO WIND
2 Freddie Lenix 12 Cle. Glenvil 21.75 +0.0
3 Darison Williams 11 Trotwood-Madison 22.05 +0.0
4 Adam Wilhelm 12 Fremont Ross 22.07 +0.0
5 David Bruton 12 Miamisburg 22.12 +0.0

4X200

TX

1 Katy Cinco Ranch 1:25.19*
2 Houston Eisenhower 1:25.31
3 Dallas Carter 1:25.41
4 Converse Judson 1:26.39
5 De Soto 1:26.73


OH

1 Cle. Glenville 1:25.09% State Record
2 Trotwood-Madison 1:26.91
3 Massillon Perry 1:27.46
4 Cin. Colerain 1:28.47 not even close
5 Cin. Princeton 1:28.88

The 4X200 would have been a very close race with Glenville barely winning - but needing an Ohio state record to win.

Glenville trounced the closest Ohio competition.


I noticed SLC receiver Clint Renfro would have won state in the 300 hurddles in Ohio.

[concha]

Ladies,

I have never purported to say that Ohio is a stronger track state than Texas. But thanks for the information (BTW, comparing times other than head-to-head is a stretch to begin with).

Here are the results I was referring to (Nike Outdoor Track and Field Championships in '04) with specific regard to Glenville. BTW, most Tarblooder runners, if not all, can actually be found on the football roster.

Finals
1 Glenville HS 'A' 40.51
1) Freddie Lenix 04 2) Daven Jones 06
3) Stephon Fuqua 04 4) Theodore Ginn, Jr 04

2 Lancaster HS 'A' 40.89
1) Tim King 04 2) Kenric Gilbert 04
3) JR Thomas 04 4) Rodrick Stewart 04

3 Glenville HS 'B' 41.28
1) Myron Howard 04 2) Andre Evans 05
3) Raymond Small 06 4) Jamario O Neal 05

[NewSherriffInTown]

Go back and read the post again.. I even posted the BCS Conferences signees from Texas and Florida slippy. Florida had like 150 sign to BCS Conference schools outside of Florida and Texas had like 144 sign with BCS schools outside of Texas.

Some years Texas may led by a few some years Florida may led by a few.

Texas has more kids sign D-1A and D-1AA over Florida.

PS. The whole argument about D-1A talent is kind of a mute point most years in Texas. Most of the time its schools with only a few D-1A caliber players that win State. Heck, most of the time they beat up on a team that has about a 4/1 ratio of D-1A players compared to themselves.

It comes down to good coaching, good program, and good so called "AVERAGE PLAYERS" that win it all 90% of the time in Texas.

Again.. you trying to debate with me on Texas football still cracks me up.

You really need to go see about 100 games and spend about 20 years really following Texas football and than "MAYBE" you'll be able to hold a strong conversation with me about Texas football. Just my thought. But, hey keep trying.. you know the story about the little train that thought he could right..? Well, keep trying Chut chut..



What world do you live in?? You always forget the facts, or forget the conversation...


the conversation was NEVER about who has more talent...the point was why can't Texas win a national title with ALL those Texas recruits. You said it's because Texas loses SO MANY kids to out of state colleges.

I just hit you with the FACT that Florida loses MORE kids to out of state colleges that Texas, from a TEXAS magazine in fact.

I don't care if you watch 1000 years of football, you won't have much credibility when you can't stick to the conversation, acknowledge when you get your butt handed to you, or anything like that.

I've barely been alive for those 20 years you speak of, and sometimes I think that I'M the one who shouldn't bother with arguing because YOU can't hold a candle to ME.


P.S. Up here, trains go chug, chug, chug...I hope they don't go Chut Chut Chut down there. That would scare me the first time I heard it.

[pack0808]

Irving Mac. had 9 kids this past year commit to D-1A schools. This season it looks like they will have about 6. Their two "LB's" have already committed to Oklahoma St. this year.

Lamarque had 9 kids in 2004 sign D-1A and this year they had 3 if you include FS-Clarence Ward who transfered out in early September for Pensacola, Fla.

This past season kids that started for the 2003 Lamarque 4A Title team as juniors:

RB- Ball - Florida St.
CB- Mangum - Fla St.
FS- C. Ward - Fla St.


i know lamarque had 9 legit div1 scolarship players in 03 but they had only 2 or 3 in 04. lufkin had 7 legit div1 scholarships in 03 and 4 in 04.

some of us talked about this earler. irving mac had 5 or 6 legit div1a players not 9!! the rest were div1aa!! that is not div1a football. whole different ball game. we are talking div1a like texas, florida, michigan not div1aa like sfa, mcneese st, and montana.

[RidgePride]

TX loses a lot of players to out of state and we have I believe more Texas D1 Colleges.

Texas - TX A&M - Texas Tech - TCU - Baylor - SMU -Rice


Florida Has basically

Univ of Florida - Florida State - Miami - Florida A&M - Central Florida -
I don't know who else.

With that being said, I do think that Florida has better athletes though - I just can't deny that - I think TX is Second when it comes to raw talent.

College is when the Florida athletes finally get some real coaching - That is why they are so good.

I have actually lived in Texas and Florida - So I am not just guessing.

But I think that Texas is #1 in high shool football and Florida is 2nd - Cali 3rd Ohio 4th St. Concha 5th.

[pack0808]

it is almost impossible to tell who is better but we all can say this?? the best talent comes out of texas, florida, and california almost every year. they are 123 in div1 football players and nfl players.

[RidgePride]

it is almost impossible to tell who is better but we call all say this?? the best talent comes out of texas, florida, and california almost every year. they are 123 in div1 football players and nfl players.


Yes you are right - I looked it up and out of current players in the NFL
Florida was Number 1 with about 20 more than Texas
Texas was Number 2
California was a distant 3rd

[RidgePride]

Ladies,

I have never purported to say that Ohio is a stronger track state than Texas. But thanks for the information (BTW, comparing times other than head-to-head is a stretch to begin with).

Here are the results I was referring to (Nike Outdoor Track and Field Championships in '04) with specific regard to Glenville. BTW, most Tarblooder runners, if not all, can actually be found on the football roster.

Finals
1 Glenville HS 'A' 40.51
1) Freddie Lenix 04 2) Daven Jones 06
3) Stephon Fuqua 04 4) Theodore Ginn, Jr 04

2 Lancaster HS 'A' 40.89
1) Tim King 04 2) Kenric Gilbert 04
3) JR Thomas 04 4) Rodrick Stewart 04

3 Glenville HS 'B' 41.28
1) Myron Howard 04 2) Andre Evans 05
3) Raymond Small 06 4) Jamario O Neal 05


Whatever -
The state times were not the best times of the year in TX either. I was using it to show generally where Ohio stands with TX athletes.

I agree that it is a stretch if the teams do not go head to head. If they did, Glenville HS may have actually lost the 200 relay to one or more TX teams. It was all very close. But in Ohio, Glenville HS looks like Giants compared to other schools there. Just Like Colerain in Football.

[concha]

Glenville do indeed dominate Ohio in track. But Colerain is not a 'giant' in football. They had a standout year for themselves in a relatively down year in Ohio. They have only one state title.

[Texasfrog]

What world do you live in?? You always forget the facts, or forget the conversation...


the conversation was NEVER about who has more talent...the point was why can't Texas win a national title with ALL those Texas recruits. You said it's because Texas loses SO MANY kids to out of state colleges.

I just hit you with the FACT that Florida loses MORE kids to out of state colleges that Texas, from a TEXAS magazine in fact.

I don't care if you watch 1000 years of football, you won't have much credibility when you can't stick to the conversation, acknowledge when you get your butt handed to you, or anything like that.

I've barely been alive for those 20 years you speak of, and sometimes I think that I'M the one who shouldn't bother with arguing because YOU can't hold a candle to ME.


P.S. Up here, trains go chug, chug, chug...I hope they don't go Chut Chut Chut down there. That would scare me the first time I heard it.

Go back and learn how to re-read ok.. First you STATE, " If Texas is so good than why doesnt Tx A&M have a national title in recent times." I stated to you... " Some Texas schools might but they lose tons of talent each year to out of Texas schools."

You claim that the Florida Big-3 are very good. I agree with you clown. But, the Florida Big-3 recruit NATIONALLY from (Tx, Cali, Penn, Ohio, Canada) and a handful of other States & countries.

Do you really think that Miami would of played in their last National Title game without players like ( QB-Dorsey, Te- Winslow, LB- Williams) all three of those kids are from California. Traveled all the way across the country to play for Miami. Hmmmmm.

Again.. trying to compare the Florida Big-3 rosters that are dotted with kids from all acroos America to Texas rosters that are 95% Texas kids is kind of funny to me.

Last... Go look where I even posted the Tx and Fla recruits for the ACC, Big-12, SEC, Big-10, Big East and Pac-10 slippy. I posted the the recruits and how many there was slippy. Florida had about 10 more kids sign with NON-Florida schools than Texas with NON-Texas schools in those BCS Conferences.
GO LOOK AT IT SLIPPY.. I POSTED IT GO LOOK AT IT AND READ !

Keep trying Wyatt.. You're half way up that hill but starting to slip backwards.

[Texasfrog]

Yes you are right - I looked it up and out of current players in the NFL
Florida was Number 1 with about 20 more than Texas
Texas was Number 2
California was a distant 3rd

Ridge.. go take a look at the NFLHS site. They list the NFL players and their home State/ High school.

California is #1 with like 200 players in the NFL

Texas is #2 with like 180

Florida is #3 with like 178

That's right off the NFL site.

[Texasfrog]

i know lamarque had 9 legit div1 scolarship players in 03 but they had only 2 or 3 in 04. lufkin had 7 legit div1 scholarships in 03 and 4 in 04.

some of us talked about this earler. irving mac had 5 or 6 legit div1a players not 9!! the rest were div1aa!! that is not div1a football. whole different ball game. we are talking div1a like texas, florida, michigan not div1aa like sfa, mcneese st, and montana.

Irving Mac 2005 signees.
LaSahwn Vation Texas Tech
Brent Nickerson Texas Tech
Jeff Moturi Houston
Eric Childs Kansas Tech
Charles Harris Tulane
Duane Brooks Cental Michigan
Damion Hoskins Central Michigan
Kartey Agbottah North Texas

Looking at it now I see 8 last season for Irving Mac. I know that Dave Campbells posted they had 9. I dont know if they had a late signee to make it 9. But, I do think those 8 would be so called legit D-1A signees. At least in my book. I know Irving Mac. also had about 7 others sign with D-1AA, D-AA and Juco's. I know they are predicting this seasons Irving Mac. team to have around 6 D-1A signees. The two LB's have already verbally committed to Oklahoma St. for the 2006 signee period.

[pack0808]

i am sorry those are legit div1a prospects. i could have sworn somebody posted the irving mac signees earlier and they listed many div1aa programs. well if irving mac had 3 or 4 more last year they are right up there with lamarque and lufkin in the last 2 years with the most div1a recruits.

[pack0808]

this is lufkin's in the last 2 years

1. chris pilot houston
2. kevin bryan texas a&m
3. jacorrey sheppard rice
4. aaron darks kansas st
5. tyson kirksey washington st.
6. joseph hadnot lous lafayette
7. ray givens lous lafatyette
8. javorski lane texas &m
9. alton dixon texas a&M
10. mckinner dixon texas tech
11. rashad hunt texas tech

lufkin has 4 current nfl players with a 5th on the way in reggie mcneal. :)

if you go back the last 3 years i bet tyler lee would be in the top 5 in div1a recruits. they had a lot in 2002 i am pretty sure??

[RockinL]

Ridge.. go take a look at the NFLHS site. They list the NFL players and their home State/ High school.

California is #1 with like 200 players in the NFL

Texas is #2 with like 180

Florida is #3 with like 178

That's right off the NFL site.

PER CAPITA.... states like Mississippi and Louisiana put everyone else to shame.

[RockinL]

Alot of players who end up at D1-AA, DII or DIII colleges, may be great athletes and legit big time school prospects......
but didnt have the grades to go to the DI colleges. I know that happens alot here in Longview.

[Texasfrog]

PER CAPITA.... states like Mississippi and Louisiana put everyone else to shame.

No doubt about it. What they produce per-capita is great. When its all said and done all of this has almost nothing to do with High school football.

I've been the first to say that the number of D-1A signees that "team A" or "team B" has doesnt mean alot. Most of the time in Texas the 5A State Champ has just a "FEW" D-1A players on the team (Sr/Jr).

There is no doubt that the Big-3 football producing States in overall numbers is Texas, Florida and California with share numbers.

[Texasfrog]

Alot of players who end up at D1-AA, DII or DIII colleges, may be great athletes and legit big time school prospects......
but didnt have the grades to go to the DI colleges. I know that happens alot here in Longview.

I'll agree with that also. There is alot of great players that play D-1AA football and even some that play D-11 football. All you have to do is go look at NFL rosters and that proves that ....

[Texasfrog]

i am sorry those are legit div1a prospects. i could have sworn somebody posted the irving mac signees earlier and they listed many div1aa programs. well if irving mac had 3 or 4 more last year they are right up there with lamarque and lufkin in the last 2 years with the most div1a recruits.


Ya,, I think earlier I posted some of the D-1AA and D-11 athletes also that I saw from the school. But, they are putting out their share of D-1A athletes.

Heck, alot of those Irving schools are loaded with talent. I think Irving High had like 4 last season and will have like 4 this season, led by RB-Jamal Evans.

[Texasfrog]

this is lufkin's in the last 2 years

1. chris pilot houston
2. kevin bryan texas a&m
3. jacorrey sheppard rice
4. aaron darks kansas st
5. tyson kirksey washington st.
6. joseph hadnot lous lafayette
7. ray givens lous lafatyette
8. javorski lane texas &m
9. alton dixon texas a&M
10. mckinner dixon texas tech
11. rashad hunt texas tech

lufkin has 4 current nfl players with a 5th on the way in reggie mcneal. :)

if you go back the last 3 years i bet tyler lee would be in the top 5 in div1a recruits. they had a lot in 2002 i am pretty sure??

Oh Ya, Lufkin has just been spitting out the talent the last few years. I know the college Scouts are making Lufkin one of their 1st stops these days on the recruiting trail.

If you look at the talent that has been coming out of Lufkin and Tyler Lee over the last 4 years is insane.

Longview not far behind and catching up.

Lufkin , Tyler Lee and Longview have put some pretty solid players into D-1AA football also.

[pack0808]

Alot of players who end up at D1-AA, DII or DIII colleges, may be great athletes and legit big time school prospects......
but didnt have the grades to go to the DI colleges. I know that happens alot here in Longview.


that is very true and lufkin has their share of those also. it used to happen a lot more until outlaw came. if the kids do not put effort in school first they will not play. simple as that!!

[Texasfrog]

that is very true and lufkin has their share of those also. it used to happen a lot more until outlaw came. if the kids do not put effort in school first they will not play. simple as that!!


I've been to a few Coach Outlaw practices. Man he runs it like "military boot camp." I was very very impressed with it. He makes sure that helmet is on and that strap is buttoned or your pushing them out. Very impressed with that. Those kids hustle also. They make sure they are out and lined up and ready to start practice.

[pack0808]

and if you put i before team he will tell you to take off your gear and go home. outlaw is like a God here we love him. it is not just the winning which does play a big part but it is also the way he knows how to develop a class program and how he knows how to get the most out of his kids on the field and in the class and as a human being. lufkin used to have several players that used to get in trouble on a yearly basis and that has almost came to complete stop since he has been here. he does not put up with that crap i am telling you.

[Texasfrog]

and if you put i before team he will tell you to take off your gear and go home. outlaw is like a God here we love him. it is not just the winning which does play a big part but it is also the way he knows how to develop a class program and how he knows how to get the most out of his kids on the field and in the class and as a human being. lufkin used to have several players that used to get in trouble on a yearly basis and that has almost came to complete stop since he has been here. he does not put up with that crap i am telling you.


You could see that very easily. He doesnt take it from the players and he doesnt take it from the coaches either. He runs a strict program. No question about it. Seems to be working very well at Lufkin.

[Nukka Nilla]

SLC should have more D1a recruits then ever in '05. They will have more raw talent and speed the usual coming out of SLC. With the talent and speed coming out of SLC this season and such a prolific coaching staff it should be scary if they can put it all together...

O-
Greg Mcelroy- 6-8 legit D1 offers
Mckay Jacobson- offered all over Big XII, committed to BYU
Clint Renfro- Many offers for football, may choose track (he's kinda fast)
James Allen- offer from Tulsa, many others to come
Michael Prince- Few lefit offers, very promising future

D-
Joseph Agnew- Committed to Tulsa
Patrick Benoist- Offer from vandy, probably a lock there or Stanford
Michael Boydston- Lots off attention, offers coming soon for sure

[SWTAlumni]

Here is something that will grab all 5A fans attention. Here are some Questions and Answers from TYLER LEE head coach Mike Owens........................

PLEASE LIST THE FIVE GREATEST PLAYERS YOU’VE EVER COACHED (WHEN AND WHERE):
1) Matt Flynn- Tyler Lee ('01-02)(LSU)
2) Elijah Burkins- Port Arthur Jefferson ('93-96)(Baylor)
3) Todd Dodge- Port Arthur Jefferson ('78-80)(UT)
4) Craig Stump- Port Arthur Jefferson ('80-82)(Texas A&M)
5) Derek Farmer- Tyler Lee ('98-00)(A&M and SFA)
6) Justin Warren- Tyler Lee ('00-02)(Texas A&M)

LIST THE GREATEST PLAYERS YOU’VE COACHED AGAINST:
1) Derrick Johnson- Waco ('00-01)(Texas)
2) Reggie McNeal- Lufkin ('98-01)(Texas A&M)
3) James Brown- Beaumont Westbrook (Texas)
4) Leland McElroy- Beaumont Central (Texas A&M)
5) Kevin Smith- West Orange (Texas A&M)

PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR MOST EXCITING MOMENT OR GAME IN YOUR COACHING CAREER:

“@ Lufkin- 2002 overtime win, 21-20, Matt Flynn throws a touchdown pass to Mike Rogers in the end zone as he's falling down...”

WHAT PLAYERS ARE CONSIDERED THE FIVE MOST INFLUENTIAL IN THE HISTORY OF YOUR CURRENT FOOTBALL PROGRAM?
1) Joffrey Reynolds (TB) [Houston/St. Louis Rams]
2) Derek Farmer (TB) [Texas A&M, SFA]
3) Matt Flynn (QB), 2002 [LSU]
4) Justin Warren (DE) [Texas A&M]
5) Keondra Smith (WR/TB/JB) [Texas A&M]

[southlake thug]

SLC should have more D1a recruits then ever in '05. They will have more raw talent and speed the usual coming out of SLC. With the talent and speed coming out of SLC this season and such a prolific coaching staff it should be scary if they can put it all together...

O-
Greg Mcelroy- 6-8 legit D1 offers
Mckay Jacobson- offered all over Big XII, committed to BYU
Clint Renfro- Many offers for football, may choose track (he's kinda fast)
James Allen- offer from Tulsa, many others to come
Michael Prince- Few lefit offers, very promising future

D-
Joseph Agnew- Committed to Tulsa
Patrick Benoist- Offer from vandy, probably a lock there or Stanford
Michael Boydston- Lots off attention, offers coming soon for sure




what about drew winsett... i heard he got offered by k-state

[pack0808]

lufkin will have another 4-7 next year. the biggest class of div1a recruits should come in 06. that class is loaded. 10 is possible with that class!! the most lufkin has ever had is 7 in 1 year and that was in 03.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Not 5A but Bmt. Ozen has produced ALOT of D1 players.

[Texasfrog]

Here is something that will grab all 5A fans attention. Here are some Questions and Answers from TYLER LEE head coach Mike Owens........................

PLEASE LIST THE FIVE GREATEST PLAYERS YOU’VE EVER COACHED (WHEN AND WHERE):
1) Matt Flynn- Tyler Lee ('01-02)(LSU)
2) Elijah Burkins- Port Arthur Jefferson ('93-96)(Baylor)
3) Todd Dodge- Port Arthur Jefferson ('78-80)(UT)
4) Craig Stump- Port Arthur Jefferson ('80-82)(Texas A&M)
5) Derek Farmer- Tyler Lee ('98-00)(A&M and SFA)
6) Justin Warren- Tyler Lee ('00-02)(Texas A&M)

LIST THE GREATEST PLAYERS YOU’VE COACHED AGAINST:
1) Derrick Johnson- Waco ('00-01)(Texas)
2) Reggie McNeal- Lufkin ('98-01)(Texas A&M)
3) James Brown- Beaumont Westbrook (Texas)
4) Leland McElroy- Beaumont Central (Texas A&M)
5) Kevin Smith- West Orange (Texas A&M)

PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR MOST EXCITING MOMENT OR GAME IN YOUR COACHING CAREER:

“@ Lufkin- 2002 overtime win, 21-20, Matt Flynn throws a touchdown pass to Mike Rogers in the end zone as he's falling down...”

WHAT PLAYERS ARE CONSIDERED THE FIVE MOST INFLUENTIAL IN THE HISTORY OF YOUR CURRENT FOOTBALL PROGRAM?
1) Joffrey Reynolds (TB) [Houston/St. Louis Rams]
2) Derek Farmer (TB) [Texas A&M, SFA]
3) Matt Flynn (QB), 2002 [LSU]
4) Justin Warren (DE) [Texas A&M]
5) Keondra Smith (WR/TB/JB) [Texas A&M]

Impressive list from Coach Owens. I asked my old Varsity Head Coach a few years ago who was the best player he ever coached against. He told me Eric Dickerson (SEALY). Eric Dickerson has 3 touchdowns in the first minute of the football game he told me !!

[SWTAlumni]

Owen's is going to go down as one of the greatest high school coaches in TEXAS history. I believe the 2002 TYLER LEE team had 9 DI's and 4 others that got scholarships, that not only says something about football, buy academics as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Favpack]

Owen's is going to go down as one of the greatest high school coaches in TEXAS history. I believe the 2002 TYLER LEE team had 9 DI's and 4 others that got scholarships, that not only says something about football, buy academics as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even though I know they don't like each other as best buddies - I know Owens and Outlaw respect each other -- nice to see Lufkin mentioned often in that list. That game he noted was the wildest non playoff game I've seen in years - especially when you factor in the field's condition.

[SWTAlumni]

Here you go LUFKIN, this one's for you! Just keeping it real before the season.


PLEASE LIST THE GREATEST PLAYERS YOU’VE EVER COACHED (WHEN AND WHERE):

1) Reggie McNeal- Lufkin – Texas A&M
2) Terrance Kiel- Lufkin – Texas A&M
3) Sterling Boyd- Sherman – Georgia
4) John Elmore- Sherman – Texas
5) Hunter Smith- Sherman – Notre Dame
6) Jorvorskie Lane-Lufkin- Texas A&M

LIST THE GREATEST PLAYERS YOU’VE COACHED AGAINST:
1) Keith Traylor, DL - Melvern, AR
2) David Warren, DE- John Tyler
3) Derek Farmer, RB- Tyler Lee
4) Fred Talley, RB- Longview
5) Ofa Mohateu, OL- Trinity HS
6) Tarrell Brown, RB- North Mesquite

WHAT PLAYERS ARE CONSDIERED THE FIVE MOST INFLUENTIAL IN THE HISTORY OF YOUR CURRENT FOOTBALL PROGRAM?

1) Jacoby Sheppard (’96)- DB
2) Rex Hadnot (’99)- OL
3) Jusen Olford (’96)- DB
4) Terrance Kiel (’99)- DB
5) Reggie McNeal (’01)- QB
6) Jorvorskie Lane ('04)- RB
7) Sparky Hamilton ('98)- WR
8) Denvis Manns ('94)- RB

PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR MOST EXCITING MOMENT OR GAME IN YOUR COACHING CAREER: "Beating Euless-Trinity 2001 semi-finals in cold, wet, nasty conditions, rallied from down 21-0 in the first half, McNeal threw a last-minute touchdown pass to cap off a tremendous comeback at Rose Stadium in Tyler.”

[pack0808]

Owen's is going to go down as one of the greatest high school coaches in TEXAS history. I believe the 2002 TYLER LEE team had 9 DI's and 4 others that got scholarships, that not only says something about football, buy academics as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


no tyler lee had 5 or 6 div1a recruits in 2002 to i believe lead the state that year?? it was not near 9 though. only lamarque has had that many lately and that was in 2003. well besides irving mac last year?? i guess they had 8 or 9?? garland always has plenty, tyler lee, lufkin, northshore, ike, longview, 4a texarkana, 4a ennis, denton ryan, 4a lamarque, duncanville, irving those are the names that come to my mind when i think of teams with the most div1a recruits

[IBLEEDGreen]

Guys,

Since nobody else seems to give Spring Westfield due credit as it relates to the post, I Will.

2005 Division 1

Patrick Handy - SMU
Sandy Riley - Texas Tech
Chris Mitchell - Houston
Devin Gregg - Texas A & M
Robert Kibble - UCLA
Joseph Fontenot - Central Michigan

2005 Division 1AA

Ryan Terry - Southern Arkansas
Demarcus ? - Southern Arkansas
Derrell Charles - Southern Arkansas
Javid Milton - Western Illinois

2004 Division 1

Jeray Chatham - Oklahoma State
Webster Patrick - Iowa State
Vernon James - Rice

2004 Division 1AA

Kyle Earl - Prairie View
Paul Johnson - Prairie View
Jamichael Sims - Southern Arkansas

Southern Arkansas maybe Division II, I'm not sure, but you get the point.

[pack0808]

yeah southern arkansas and prarie view are not div1a and we are not counting those. still an impressive list. we are only talking div1a!! we are not even talking div1aa. only the big boys.

[Texasfrog]

Guys,

Since nobody else seems to give Spring Westfield due credit as it relates to the post, I Will.

2005 Division 1

Patrick Handy - SMU
Sandy Riley - Texas Tech
Chris Mitchell - Houston
Devin Gregg - Texas A & M
Robert Kibble - UCLA
Joseph Fontenot - Central Michigan

2005 Division 1AA

Ryan Terry - Southern Arkansas
Demarcus ? - Southern Arkansas
Derrell Charles - Southern Arkansas
Javid Milton - Western Illinois

2004 Division 1

Jeray Chatham - Oklahoma State
Webster Patrick - Iowa State
Vernon James - Rice

2004 Division 1AA

Kyle Earl - Prairie View
Paul Johnson - Prairie View
Jamichael Sims - Southern Arkansas

Southern Arkansas maybe Division II, I'm not sure, but you get the point.

Ya, Spring Westfield is putting out alot of D-1A talent over the last few years. I think in Feb.2002 signing day they had like 7 or 8 kids sign with D-1A that day. That was the team that gave Lufkin everything they wanted in the Astrodome.

Looks like Spring Westfield is going to have at least 5 to maybe 7 kids sign this season with D-1A schools also.

[Texasfrog]

Here you go LUFKIN, this one's for you! Just keeping it real before the season.


PLEASE LIST THE GREATEST PLAYERS YOU’VE EVER COACHED (WHEN AND WHERE):

1) Reggie McNeal- Lufkin – Texas A&M
2) Terrance Kiel- Lufkin – Texas A&M
3) Sterling Boyd- Sherman – Georgia
4) John Elmore- Sherman – Texas
5) Hunter Smith- Sherman – Notre Dame
6) Jorvorskie Lane-Lufkin- Texas A&M

LIST THE GREATEST PLAYERS YOU’VE COACHED AGAINST:
1) Keith Traylor, DL - Melvern, AR
2) David Warren, DE- John Tyler
3) Derek Farmer, RB- Tyler Lee
4) Fred Talley, RB- Longview
5) Ofa Mohateu, OL- Trinity HS
6) Tarrell Brown, RB- North Mesquite

WHAT PLAYERS ARE CONSDIERED THE FIVE MOST INFLUENTIAL IN THE HISTORY OF YOUR CURRENT FOOTBALL PROGRAM?

1) Jacoby Sheppard (’96)- DB
2) Rex Hadnot (’99)- OL
3) Jusen Olford (’96)- DB
4) Terrance Kiel (’99)- DB
5) Reggie McNeal (’01)- QB
6) Jorvorskie Lane ('04)- RB
7) Sparky Hamilton ('98)- WR
8) Denvis Manns ('94)- RB

PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR MOST EXCITING MOMENT OR GAME IN YOUR COACHING CAREER: "Beating Euless-Trinity 2001 semi-finals in cold, wet, nasty conditions, rallied from down 21-0 in the first half, McNeal threw a last-minute touchdown pass to cap off a tremendous comeback at Rose Stadium in Tyler.”

I know that some of the Lufkin coaches that have been with Coach Outlaw for the Sherman days. They say that Hunter Smith was probably the best "ATHLETE" they every had. This is even post Reggie McNeal days. Wow huh ...!!!!!

[Texasfrog]

Irving Mac 2005 signees.

DB-LaSahwn Vation Texas Tech
DB-Brent Nickerson Texas Tech
WR-Jeff Moturi Houston
DE-Eric Childs Kansas Tech
WR-Charles Harris Tulane
QB-Duane Brooks Cental Michigan
DE-Damion Hoskins Central Michigan
DB-Kartey Agbottah North Texas

I see that they already have 3 kids verbally committed to D-1A schools this year.

LB- Jeff Bereuter (6-4/210) - Okla St.
LB- Justin Gent (6-2/210) - Okla St.
OL-Josh Vernon (6-2/280) - TCU.

Look like they will have about 3 to maybe 4 more this season also go D-1A.

Wow, that 2004 Irving Mac. team had some talent.

[drgnbkr]

It shows you that talent alone won't get you very far in the playoffs...gotta have a "Team"...

[pack0808]

very true drgn

[Roughrider]

gotta put my school out there because we have put out 88 players in the last 12 years

Yeah but 87 of them have quit or were dismissed from the team!! :p

Just kidding!

[Texasfrog]

It shows you that talent alone won't get you very far in the playoffs...gotta have a "Team"...

Roger that..... could agree with more. :)

[ktchamp97]

It shows you that talent alone won't get you very far in the playoffs...gotta have a "Team"...

That team, I fully believe, would have been playing your Dragons for the Region title last year if they could have survived against Denton Ryan. That was one of the best playoff games I've seen. Justin Willis simply willed his team to victory. Just because you lose in the first round, doesn't mean you weren't a good team. IMac was one of the 10 best teams last year.

[dragonfootballfan]

Irving Macarthur has been pretty unlucky with their playoff first round draws the past few years having to play SLC and Denton Ryan. Irving MacArthur was a good "team" last year and they are on the way up

[drgnbkr]

I'm not really knocking Mac...they did'nt bring much 2 years ago in the playoffs and lost in the 1st round last year and lost a ton of talent...all I'm really pointing out is that they don't have much a playoff tradition....

[elderplaya]

you guys in texas are ******** that **** is funny bout the track times.
thats not the fastest in ohio retards we have so many fast boys in ohio that are faster than what you got posted. next time you try to make ohio look bad to make "big bad texas look good get your **** right"what do you rednecks honestly think texas is the #1 sports state in the world or something?

the only reason sports are bigger in texas is because its a boring *** state and theres nothing but farms,oil,steers, and white trash rednecks who thinks texas is gods country to all of sports.
yeee hawww im from TEXAS Billy Bob weres my sister im horny

[ktchamp97]

you guys in texas are ******** that **** is funny bout the track times.
thats not the fastest in ohio retards we have so many fast boys in ohio that are faster than what you got posted. next time you try to make ohio look bad to make "big bad texas look good get your **** right"what do you rednecks honestly think texas is the #1 sports state in the world or something?

the only reason sports are bigger in texas is because its a boring *** state and theres nothing but farms,oil,steers, and white trash rednecks who thinks texas is gods country to all of sports.
yeee hawww im from TEXAS Billy Bob weres my sister im horny

= how to get banned.

[Roughrider]

you guys in texas are ******** that **** is funny bout the track times.
thats not the fastest in ohio retards we have so many fast boys in ohio that are faster than what you got posted. next time you try to make ohio look bad to make "big bad texas look good get your **** right"what do you rednecks honestly think texas is the #1 sports state in the world or something?

the only reason sports are bigger in texas is because its a boring *** state and theres nothing but farms,oil,steers, and white trash rednecks who thinks texas is gods country to all of sports.
yeee hawww im from TEXAS Billy Bob weres my sister im horny

Yeah, fast like Maurice Clarett??? Fast with that booster money!!! Please, you YANKEES don't stand a chance comparing athletes..... If you got athletes faster where were they during your state meet? Probably out filing false insurance claims!!!!!!!! Times are posted and you can't dispute what's on the record.

[friendswood72]

We never said ohio didn't have good teams, I for one credit colerain in having a great team. BUT I am a realist and you should realize the competition is much more stiff in Texas not only because it is a bigger state but there are many tradition rich communities which fuel the importance of athleticism at an early age. Oh and some of us may be white trash rednecks that live in houses that make yours look like a garbage can ;) . Have some Soda pop and sit on that.

[SWTAlumni]

LOOKS like Elderpla skipped english class 1 to many times in OHIO huh? I'd be bitter two if I had to watch your pro sports teams...............ie,,,,your just jealous of the COWBOYS, SPURS, and the STARS CHAMPIONSHIPS aren't you? Oh yea, I think our WNBA team has nock out a few as well.