SLC Reloading

[CHHSdad]

I thought it would be fun to read from some of the "in the know" SLC followers about their thoughts on the challenges ahead reloading for 06 and comparing it to recent reloading Coach Dodge has done.

I believe he's a great coach (hey! he's from UT) It seems reloading this year will be especially challenging to replace the entire offensive line and receivers. Newton is the only returning starter, although I count Riley as a top notch returner as well. And if i'm not mistaken, the defense returns only a starting DE, LB and CB.

[dragons08]

im not worried about the defense at all..lots of first year seniors next year i think..oline and wr's will be the scary party..we got cantu, who from my understanding is a GREAT player..and is only a soph..along with riley and tre (both sophs as well)..next year we'll be a rather young team...


slc fans..what about kicker and punter??? maybe dodge can find a soccer player who can kick

[drgnbkr]

im not worried about the defense at all..lots of first year seniors next year i think..oline and wr's will be the scary party..we got cantu, who from my understanding is a GREAT player..and is only a soph..along with riley and tre (both sophs as well)..next year we'll be a rather young team...


slc fans..what about kicker and punter??? maybe dodge can find a soccer player who can kick

Was Ryan Murray a senior? I think he can grow into both jobs with some work..but if he graduated, he probably would'nt want to hang around another year...:D

[dragonfootballfan]

Was Ryan Murray a senior? I think he can grow into both jobs with some work..but if he graduated, he probably would'nt want to hang around another year...:D
I think that he is a senior, but everybody seems to be talking about a sophomore to be that is a left footed kicker that should be good. I have not seen him, but what I heard is that he should be pretty good.

[drgnbkr]

I think that he is a senior, but everybody seems to be talking about a sophomore to be that is a left footed kicker that should be good. I have not seen him, but what I heard is that he should be pretty good.

I know there is an 8th grader at CMS, who will be a freshman next year who can kick it a mile...

[dragonfootballfan]

I know there is an 8th grader at CMS, who will be a freshman next year who can kick it a mile...
he might be able to compete for the job. Kicker/Punter is a big question mark as is just about ever area other than runningback.

[toonman]

Does anyone know who SLCs non-district games are. I have seen a few threads and posts, but do we have the definitive schedule.

[cc06football1]

Heres to Riley, Tre, and Coach Dodge all going to TEXAS in 08. :) That would be a hell of a recruiting take.

[dragonfootballfan]

Does anyone know who SLCs non-district games are. I have seen a few threads and posts, but do we have the definitive schedule.
Week 1- not sure yet
Week 2- Evangel Christian (LA.) @Dragon Stadium
Week 3- Rockwall Site not yet determined

[drgnbkr]

Week 1- not sure yet
Week 2- Evangel Christian (LA.) @Dragon Stadium
Week 3- Rockwall Site not yet determined

I heard week one could be Lake Highlands

[dragons08]

Was Ryan Murray a senior? I think he can grow into both jobs with some work..but if he graduated, he probably would'nt want to hang around another year...:D
yea a senior

[katyplayer]

all i know is that the south lake running back is a BEAST! im glad that he is returning, south lake will definatly be able to run the ball...

[BigFanSLC]

yah and with Riley right besides him in the backfield watch for the O to be a little bit tweaked next year, running more.

[dragonfootballfan]

yah and with Riley right besides him in the backfield watch for the O to be a little bit tweaked next year, running more.
I think that will be the case in the beginning of the year, but I feel that teams are going to make Carroll throw to beat them once they realize how dominant the Carroll run game is. Sort of like this season when people decided to have Carroll run to beat them instead of throw. How many yards to McElroy run for against Heritage?

[dragons08]

I think that will be the case in the beginning of the year, but I feel that teams are going to make Carroll throw to beat them once they realize how dominant the Carroll run game is. Sort of like this season when people decided to have Carroll run to beat them instead of throw. How many yards to McElroy run for against Heritage?
150-200 ish right?

[dragonfootballfan]

150-200 ish right?
I just know that it was a lot. I think that our reputation to be pass happy will help us in our first two games as these teams will most likely be loading up to stop the pass while Carroll runs the ball for 300+ yards in those games. After that Carroll better be able to pass or the offense will stall.

[dragons08]

I just know that it was a lot. I think that our reputation to be pass happy will help us in our first two games as these teams will most likely be loading up to stop the pass while Carroll runs the ball for 300+ yards in those games. After that Carroll better be able to pass or the offense will stall.
exactly..

but with riley dodge last year..when he was playing he ran a lot and raked up huge numbers for his playing time..but teams (when he was in) knew he was going to run before throwing majority of the time..if he can be a little more paitent this year, he'll have no problem at all confusing the defenses

[dragonfootballfan]

exactly..

but with riley dodge last year..when he was playing he ran a lot and raked up huge numbers for his playing time..but teams (when he was in) knew he was going to run before throwing majority of the time..if he can be a little more paitent this year, he'll have no problem at all confusing the defenses
I think last year Carroll put him in for the sole purpose of running. They called a few pass plays, not many and he would just scramble for yards.

[dragons08]

I think last year Carroll put him in for the sole purpose of running. They called a few pass plays, not many and he would just scramble for yards.
oh alright.. i wasnt sure, if it was just lack of patience or a desighned play

hows his arm strength? we never got to really see him throw this past year

[dragonfootballfan]

oh alright.. i wasnt sure, if it was just lack of patience or a desighned play

hows his arm strength? we never got to really see him throw this past year
he may end up having the best arm of any Carroll quarterback since Nathan Chandler. He has a gun. I think that the hardest thing to do with him is to let him know that he doesn't have to do everything by himself. It is sort of how Vince Young was in his freshman and sophomore years. He was trying to do everything on every play. I think that mental part of the game is going to be the hardest thing for him to do because he is such a great competitor.

[DragonBand06]

I think last year Carroll put him in for the sole purpose of running. They called a few pass plays, not many and he would just scramble for yards.
I know that he went in every third series in the reg. season...

[dragonfootballfan]

I know that he went in every third series in the reg. season...
ya and most of the time he ran and did not throw. He went in to change up the game and gain experience with the offense and speed at the varsity level. He was probably told to just not throw any interceptions, which I do not remember him doing very much.

[dragons08]

I know that he went in every third series in the reg. season...
no..it was only the 3rd series of the game..not every 3rd..then theyd put him in for mop up time

[Sakatha]

Just watch the safety cheating up on the bubble screen, Riley... ;)

~DnM

[ALLIN]

The was some of your talk, it is like SLC will not have any rec on the field next year. The rec core will be young and new, but they can still run routes and catch balls, that is what they do, and they have been doing it, true, it has been on the jv, but one on one they will be fine; which is what it will be once defenses realize they better stop then run. SLC should be fine next year, but only time will tell.

[toonman]

Week 1- not sure yet
Week 2- Evangel Christian (LA.) @Dragon Stadium
Week 3- Rockwall Site not yet determined

Thank you for the information. I now just need to look out for the Week 1 Game.

[toonman]

The was some of your talk, it is like SLC will not have any rec on the field next year. The rec core will be young and new, but they can still run routes and catch balls, that is what they do, and they have been doing it, true, it has been on the jv, but one on one they will be fine; which is what it will be once defenses realize they better stop then run. SLC should be fine next year, but only time will tell.

I have been watching some of the 2005 highlights - Riley is very very fast, which will add whole new dimension to the SLC Offense. I think the 2005 season was a great learning experience for Riley, who also saw playing time at WR as well. As far as WRs go for the 2006 season. With the Dodge system in place, I am sure there are 2006 Juniors and Seniors who will step up and take the place of the 2005 graduating seniors. SLC always have well coached WRs – after all they are one of, if not the key component of Dodge’s Spread Offense.

[drgnbkr]

I have been watching some of the 2005 highlights - Riley is very very fast, which will add whole new dimension to the SLC Offense. I think the 2005 season was a great learning experience for Riley, who also saw playing time at WR as well. As far as WRs go for the 2006 season. With the Dodge system in place, I am sure there are 2006 Juniors and Seniors who will step up and take the place of the 2005 graduating seniors. SLC always have well coached WRs – after all they are one of, if not the key component of Dodge’s Spread Offense.

All true, but...its hard to replace a McKay Jacobson & Clint Renfro, but Evan Fentriss & Corbin Smiter arrived for their senior season and did pretty well I'd say...who will it be next season? We'll see...but I doubt we'll see a Jacobson or Renfro in the group..so it will be different

[dragonsdaddy]

dff, i beg to differ with your opinion of rd's arm. he is not nearly as strong armed as mc or even chase d, but he is very accurate and has great form, just like dear old dad. he can make all the throws, just without the zip we saw this year. i expect there wil be more moving pockets. not rollouts, but something to get him away from the rush, to make up for his lack of stature. his running ability is going to make teams focus away from the pass, much like cwasson's leaving some wrs uncovered. i expect some ridiculous ypc numbers next year.

[BigFanSLC]

ya Riley best resembles Wasson, if any of the past QB's at SLC.

[SLCDad]

all i know is that the south lake running back is a BEAST! im glad that he is returning, south lake will definatly be able to run the ball...He is back for two more years (unless he opts for the NFL draft before his senior year). :D

[southlake thug]

he may end up having the best arm of any Carroll quarterback since Nathan Chandler. He has a gun. I think that the hardest thing to do with him is to let him know that he doesn't have to do everything by himself. It is sort of how Vince Young was in his freshman and sophomore years. He was trying to do everything on every play. I think that mental part of the game is going to be the hardest thing for him to do because he is such a great competitor.


So you really think Riley has a better arm then McElroy? Or was that a joke.

I don't think we have been watching the same 2 guys this year

[dragonfootballfan]

So you really think Riley has a better arm then McElroy? Or was that a joke.

I don't think we have been watching the same 2 guys this year
I think that Riley could end up having a better arm than McElroy.

[dragons08]

I think that Riley could end up having a better arm than McElroy.
only time will tell...


he might eventually have a better arm, but right now, mcelroy by far has the better arm

[dragonfootballfan]

only time will tell...


he might eventually have a better arm, but right now, mcelroy by far has the better arm
I am not sure if it is by far right now. Riley is very accurate. His arm strength may not be as good, but he will improve

[Sakatha]

I think that Riley could end up having a better arm than McElroy.

Greg has the potential of having a big time NFL strength arm... He just needs to shorten that release a little...

Riley? He's Chase Wasson but faster.

~DnM

[drgnbkr]

Greg has the potential of having a big time NFL strength arm... He just needs to shorten that release a little...

Riley? He's Chase Wasson but faster.

~DnM
I could'nt have said it better myself...

[dragonsdaddy]

I could'nt have said it better myself...
which, by my estimation, ain't all bad. 16-0 and 5700 yds+ total offense will do just fine. riley's a tough and resourceful kid. he reminds me more of kyle brown when he runs than chase w. kyle was an ortho's nightmare as he left broken ankles everywhere he ran.

[drgnbkr]

which, by my estimation, ain't all bad. 16-0 and 5700 yds+ total offense will do just fine. riley's a tough and resourceful kid. he reminds me more of kyle brown when he runs than chase w. kyle was an ortho's nightmare as he left broken ankles everywhere he ran.

Yeah, Kyle was a hell of a football player for a soccer star! I wish he had come along a couple of years later...

[drgnbkr]

which, by my estimation, ain't all bad. 16-0 and 5700 yds+ total offense will do just fine. riley's a tough and resourceful kid. he reminds me more of kyle brown when he runs than chase w. kyle was an ortho's nightmare as he left broken ankles everywhere he ran.

Yeah, Kyle was a hell of a football player for a soccer star! I wish he had come along a couple of years later...

[SLCDRGN]

This year should be VERY interesting for the Dragons. I believe they are set at RB. Tre is a potential BIGTIME college recruit as long as he stays healthy. The concussion bug could be an issue. I am still very iffy on the quarterback. Riley has a lot of pressure on him and I firmly believe he has a long ways to go to be a typical Dragon-type QB. He is small and very injury-prone. He seems to want to run more than hangin there and make the completion. I hope dad standing on the sidelines does'nt create too much pressure on this kid. He is in a VERY difficult situation!! The line, receivers and defense is subject to a lot of question right now. Spring practice should help Todd access what he has. I think the word "RELOAD" may be somewhat different this coming year than any other year oreviously.

With that said, I still believe the Dragons will be good. They may start the season slow but will improve. I fear they will be run before pass most of the regular season. We will see!!

[dragonsdaddy]

i would have thought the same about rd had i not watched him grow into this role over the last 6 years. he is a coaches son, and is well aware of the pitfalls. i think todd does as good a job coaching his qbs off the field as to how to react to stress and mistakes as he does prepping them for game situations during the week. rd's motor is in high gear when it needs to be, and idles when it should. the same ??? we had about chase w will be answered by rd. these coaches have been there and done that. todd has been preparing for these next 2 years his whole coaching career. they'll do what it takes to get the most out of whatever talent shows up on fridays.

[Sakatha]

i would have thought the same about rd had i not watched him grow into this role over the last 6 years. he is a coaches son, and is well aware of the pitfalls. i think todd does as good a job coaching his qbs off the field as to how to react to stress and mistakes as he does prepping them for game situations during the week. rd's motor is in high gear when it needs to be, and idles when it should. the same ??? we had about chase w will be answered by rd. these coaches have been there and done that. todd has been preparing for these next 2 years his whole coaching career. they'll do what it takes to get the most out of whatever talent shows up on fridays.


When I first heard about ECA and De La Salle, I admit I paniced.. Wondering what the hell Dodge was thinking...

Then I stopped for a second and thought 'Maybe he knows something we don't'... Todd has *got* to feel that he's got something special in the wings or there's just no way he would've exposed the program to that pressure...

~DnM

p.s. Regarding Tre'... Assuming he doesn't develop chronic concussion issues, he's a sure fire 4* RB in the class of 08, and a top 100 national recruit... Maybe higher if it all falls in right. Remember, he's been running at 195-ish. Imagine if he can put 20-25 lbs of muscle on that frame that already has 4.4 speed.

[slc0204]

this week in slc offseason they timed 40's dodge had the best time with a 4.42 and newton ran a 4.51 cant wait to see the fastest backfield in the state this year