Matt Davis, Klein Forest Soph, Hands Down Best QB in Texas?

[twcpfan1]

Not just a superb athlete like Shep..But a great qb as well with both his arm and feet. And only a Soph. The possibilities are endless for this kid. What a performance against a pretty darn good defense last night.. I wonder if he has relatives in the College Park Feeder zone.

[Mr. Rod]

What about Tony Romo? :(

[twcpfan1]

What about Tony Romo? :(

Well this is the Main Board...LOL

But if you really wanna know....

I think I'd take Davis over Mr Jessica even if he was in High School :D

[Football4life]

No... Not even best in the District Jacoby Walker is better from Westfield

[twcpfan1]

No... Not even best in the District Jacoby Walker is better from Westfield

Man, I don't know. I've seen them both. I don't think it's even remotely close.

[Mr. Rod]

Well this is the Main Board...LOL

But if you really wanna know....

I think I'd take Davis over Mr Jessica even if he was in High School :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/tlj101010/Various/Youarecorrect.png

I've seen a couple of KF games on TV. And yeah he's pretty good.

[Jayhawker]

not just a superb athlete like shep..but a great qb as well with both his arm and feet. And only a soph. The possibilities are endless for this kid. What a performance against a pretty darn good defense last night.. i wonder if he has relatives in the college park feeder zone.

lmao!!!

[yankee]

best sophomore QB in texas, no doubt.

[twcpfan1]

best sophomore QB in texas, no doubt.

Which senior/junior/freshman do you think might be better?

[twcpfan1]

lmao!!!

Hey don't laugh man. I'm not kidding. The College Park feeder zone is very nice place to live. And College Park HS is an excellent school. Plenty of reasons that are non athletic to want to live there... :D

[yankee]

Which senior/junior/freshman do you think might be better?

James Franklin- Lake Dallas
Scotty Young- Denton Ryan
Luke Woodley- Highland Park
Javia Hall- Skyline
Ricky Zorn- Lake Highlands
Jonovan Griffin (JR.)- McKinney Boyd

that's off the top of my head, in DFW. davis is without a doubt a stud, but to proclaim him to be the best QB in a QB-rich state as a sophomore? maybe in a year or two. he hasn't been talked about much on this board, so i don't think one performance justifies him as the best QB in the state. not a surprise that you and i disagree on a qb....;)

[Eagle1986]

James Franklin- Lake Dallas
Scotty Young- Denton Ryan
Luke Woodley- Highland Park
Javia Hall- Skyline
Ricky Zorn- Lake Highlands
Jonovan Griffin (JR.)- McKinney Boyd

that's off the top of my head, in DFW. davis is without a doubt a stud, but to proclaim him to be the best QB in a QB-rich state as a sophomore? maybe in a year or two. he hasn't been talked about much on this board, so i don't think one performance justifies him as the best QB in the state. not a surprise that you and i disagree on a qb....;)

I think I would throw Matt Brown in there also.;)

[yankee]

I think I would throw Matt Brown in there also.;)

my apolgies, sir. i can't believe i left him off. brown is definitely in one of the best QB's in the state, one of the best. in fact, he makes a strong case for best QB in the entire state.

[MHSfootball]

Junior Qb from Belton.

[twcpfan1]

James Franklin- Lake Dallas
Scotty Young- Denton Ryan
Luke Woodley- Highland Park
Javia Hall- Skyline
Ricky Zorn- Lake Highlands
Jonovan Griffin (JR.)- McKinney Boyd

that's off the top of my head, in DFW. davis is without a doubt a stud, but to proclaim him to be the best QB in a QB-rich state as a sophomore? maybe in a year or two. he hasn't been talked about much on this board, so i don't think one performance justifies him as the best QB in the state. not a surprise that you and i disagree on a qb....;)

I have not seen any of those guys play. So I'll just have to take your word for it. I've seen quite a few over the last 2 or 3 years and he's right up there with the best of them even as a Soph.

[Jayhawker]

Matt is great...he will be REAL FUN to watch the next few years!

[CuJo iS BaCk]

James Franklin- Lake Dallas
Scotty Young- Denton Ryan
Luke Woodley- Highland Park
Javia Hall- Skyline
Ricky Zorn- Lake Highlands :confused:
Jonovan Griffin (JR.)- McKinney Boyd

that's off the top of my head, in DFW. davis is without a doubt a stud, but to proclaim him to be the best QB in a QB-rich state as a sophomore? maybe in a year or two. he hasn't been talked about much on this board, so i don't think one performance justifies him as the best QB in the state. not a surprise that you and i disagree on a qb....;)

I think you have to put in Ryan Polite too.

[twcpfan1]

What you really need to ask yourselves is how would Davis do if he had players around him that are as good as those around Matt Brown or Ryan Polite or the dude from Skyline?

Conversely, how would Matt Brown and those other guys do if he had just reasonable talent like the ones around Matt Davis?

[yankee]

I think you have to put in Ryan Polite too.

no doubt. he's a damn good one, and just a junior right?

that list was just off the top of my head. i don't want people getting after me, because i left some QB off that list. ;) the amount of QB talent in DFW is just sick. i left off plenty of guys that i could have put on that list.

[yankee]

What you really need to ask yourselves is how would Davis do if he had players around him that are as good as those around Matt Brown or Ryan Polite or the dude from Skyline?

Conversely, how would Matt Brown and those other guys do if he had just reasonable talent like the ones around Matt Davis?

outside of javia hall, most if not all of those guys i put on that list make their teams GO. they just have the "it" factor, and are true studs. i think they succeed no matter what team they're on.

[SLC]

Which senior/junior/freshman do you think might be better?



As a Sr.


I'll take..


Darian Godfrey- Gilmer
Luke Woodley- HP
David Piland- Carroll
Hayden Hawk- Coppell


As a Jr.

Michael Brewer- Lake Travis (probably the best in the state)
Ryan Polite- Desoto
Paul Millard- Flower Mound


As a Soph...remember the name Brian Swan out of Alexander in the comming seasons, the kid is flat out a player, he's just on a team with a bad defense .

[twcpfan1]

As a Sr.


I'll take..


Darian Godfrey- Gilmer
Luke Woodley- HP
David Piland- Carroll
Hayden Hawk- Coppell


As a Jr.

Michael Brewer- Lake Travis
Ryan Polite- Desoto
Paul Millard- Flower Mound


As a Soph...remember the name Brian Swan out of Alexander in the comming seasons, the kid is flat out a player, he's just on a team with a bad defense.

I've seen Piland. No way no he's better. He's good. But not better than Davis. Can't comment on the other guys. Except that I've heard the FM kid threw a bunch of picks that helped ET score 88.

[SleeperG]

no doubt. he's a damn good one, and just a junior right?

that list was just off the top of my head. i don't want people getting after me, because i left some QB off that list. ;) the amount of QB talent in DFW is just sick. i left off plenty of guys that i could have put on that list.
While not ready to proclaim him to be the next coming of VY, Matt Davis will be a highly effective high school and D1 quarterback. I think if Klein Forest improves on defense, learns to be more disciplined, and they make better coaching decisions, Forest could be the favorite in 13-5A for the next two years (and I am a Klein Collins fan).

You may be right that there are better pure passers in the DFW area, but as a dual threat QB, he is as exciting a sophomore as I've seen.

[SLC]

I've seen Piland. No way no he's better. He's good. But not better than Davis. Can't comment on the other guys. Except that I've heard the FM kid threw a bunch of picks that helped ET score 88.


Hey Cavdad...Do me a favor and post the stats of Davis.

[yankee]

Hey Cavdad...Do me a favor and post the stats of Davis.

i'll do it for ya. ;)

Passing:
100-171 (58%)...1,393 YDS...14 TD's....7 INT's

Rushing:

190 attempts for 1,427 YDS...22 TD's

extremely impressive for a sophomore. best in state? don't think so.

[SleeperG]

Hey Cavdad...Do me a favor and post the stats of Davis.
Davis' stats can be found at Chron.com

Summarizing:
Passing: 100/171, 1393 yds, 14 TD, 7 INT
Rushing: 190 for 1427 yds, 22 TD

Ooops. Yankee beat me to it.

[yankee]

While not ready to proclaim him to be the next coming of VY, Matt Davis will be a highly effective high school and D1 quarterback. I think if Klein Forest improves on defense, learns to be more disciplined, and they make better coaching decisions, Forest could be the favorite in 13-5A for the next two years (and I am a Klein Collins fan).

You may be right that there are better pure passers in the DFW area, but as a dual threat QB, he is as exciting a sophomore as I've seen.

i'm really not trying to take anything away from matt davis. he might be one of the best to come out of texas when all is said in done, who knows? if can continue to mature and grow as a QB, there's no telling what he might do. i'm just disagreeing with someone's opinion.

[SLC]

Davis' stats can be found at Chron.com

Summarizing:
Passing: 100/171, 1393 yds, 14 TD, 7 INT
Rushing: 190 for 1427 yds, 22 TD

Ooops. Yankee beat me to it.


Damn....That is very impressive.:notworthy



Good stuff, thanks!



EDIT: What's the measurables on this young man?

[twcpfan1]

I guess I like to judge these guys based on what they do against great defenses. TWHS has definitely been that so far this year. I'm saddened we won't see Davis again until next year.


I mean look at Andrew Luck (shout out to yankee :D) Just beat USC.

[SleeperG]

EDIT: What's the measurables on this young man?

6'1", 185. But he is still a sophomore.

[yankee]

I guess I like to judge these guys based on what they do against great defenses. TWHS has definitely been that so far this year. I'm saddened we won't see Davis again until next year.


I mean look at Andrew Luck (shout out to yankee :D) Just beat USC.

;)

that usc defense is pretty terrible this year and having a heisman candidate in the backfield doesn't hurt either. ;) don't want to get into this now, but i'm an andrew luck fan and i love it to see him succeeding at the next level. our previous discussion about him was soley about high school football.

now back to the young man from klein...

[SLC]

6'1", 185. But he is still a sophomore.


Thanks SleeperG....He can definately grow some more...Good luck to him going forward.

[SLC]

I guess I like to judge these guys based on what they do against great defenses. TWHS has definitely been that so far this year. I'm saddened we won't see Davis again until next year.
I mean look at Andrew Luck (shout out to yankee :D) Just beat USC.


I do as well....And none on my list haven't had at least one great game, if not more, against great defenses. They all have also likely had no so stellar games against great defenses..or even against average defenses.

[KT2000]

Not just a superb athlete like Shep..But a great qb as well with both his arm and feet. And only a Soph. The possibilities are endless for this kid. What a performance against a pretty darn good defense last night.. I wonder if he has relatives in the College Park Feeder zone.

Matt Davis is the best young quarterback I have seen in a long time. Davis has impressed me more this season than Russell Shepard did when he was a sophomore. Davis' quickness is just nasty, and his sense for the game is very advanced for such a young player.

Davis is a special one, and he will have people traveling from all over the area to see him play over the next couple of years.

[Corsifan]

Matt Davis's performance Saturday was the most impressive I have EVER seen by a Sophmore quaterback. It is just one game and does not mean he is the best Sophmore quaterback in the state. It is going to be fun to see how he develops over the next two years. Not ready to say the next VY, but the similarities are obvious.

[Bro. Malcolm X]

Davis' stats can be found at Chron.com

Summarizing:
Passing: 100/171, 1393 yds, 14 TD, 7 INT
Rushing: 190 for 1427 yds, 22 TD

Ooops. Yankee beat me to it.

Giving All Honor and Praise to God the Father. I thank HIM for his Grace. I thank HIM for his Mercy. I thank HIM for sending Jesus, the Perfect, into the world!

13.9yards per completion.
7.5 yards per carry.

36 Total TDs

WoW. Soph.

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[twcpfan1]

Matt Davis's performance Saturday was the most impressive I have EVER seen by a Sophmore quaterback. It is just one game and does not mean he is the best Sophmore quaterback in the state. It is going to be fun to see how he develops over the next two years. Not ready to say the next VY, but the similarities are obvious.

Davis is a better passer. Much better.

[kchsfan]

He is a special player but 13-5A is full of them. So, which district award will he get?
MVP
Newcomer
or
1st Team QB

Can't leave Hume and Rozier out of that equation. KC held KF to low 200's total offense, 1 first down in the second half, 88 total yards rushing for KF. Not sure what he had.

13-5A is so loaded with talent it is scary. A lot of underclassmen too!

Sophs - Trey Williams, M. Davis, Ryan Santos (KC safety 4 ints.)
Plus a bunch of juniors - KC has some like D. Santos, Jackson (CB), Bennett

[kale25]

The college coaches that have seen Davis so far say he is easily the best run-pass soph. in the state. Not a true drop back passer, but as a spread run and pass guy no one is close. If you would have seen him you would easily see this.

[KT2000]

The really scary thing about Davis is that the game already seems slow for him. He has a lot of room to refine his game. Frightening potential.

[STPFootball2011]

whats crazy about him is his ability to break tackles, not only in the open field but inside as well. whenever they ran option aganist the woodlands he'd have to cut up inside every time and still broke 2 or 3 tackles a PLAY before eventually being brought down.dudes gonna be a monster for the next 2 years

[Corsifan]

He is a special player but 13-5A is full of them. So, which district award will he get?
MVP
Newcomer
or
1st Team QB

Can't leave Hume and Rozier out of that equation. KC held KF to low 200's total offense, 1 first down in the second half, 88 total yards rushing for KF. Not sure what he had.

13-5A is so loaded with talent it is scary. A lot of underclassmen too!

Sophs - Trey Williams, M. Davis, Ryan Santos (KC safety 4 ints.)
Plus a bunch of juniors - KC has some like D. Santos, Jackson (CB), Bennett


Here we go again. Why don't we turn this thread into " Don't you all think my Klein Collins team is the best ever?" NO.... This is a Davis thread.

[StonyPoint]

No offense but I like Brewer for the best QB in the state.

Davis:
2910 total yards
14 passing TD's
22 rushing TD's
7 INT's
58.5% pass completion rate

Brewer:
3758 total yards
33 passing TD's
13 rushing TD's
2 INT's
71.9% pass completion rate

[alleneagle4]

What you really need to ask yourselves is how would Davis do if he had players around him that are as good as those around Matt Brown or Ryan Polite or the dude from Skyline?

Conversely, how would Matt Brown and those other guys do if he had just reasonable talent like the ones around Matt Davis?

Matt Brown's receiving corps this year is NOT full of talent like in years past..... but they are guys who will get the job done and believe in Matt......

The average size of his three starting receivers is 5' 10", 160lbs

But Matt puts the ball right in their chest, and they catch it

They're tough though too!

As Tommy Westerberg said last night.... "As he goes, we go.........He's our offense, he's the one who makes it go."

[yankee]

Matt Brown's receiving corps this year is NOT full of talent like in years past..... but they are guys who will get the job done and believe in Matt......

The average size of his three starting receivers is 5' 10", 160lbs

But Matt puts the ball right in their chest, and they catch it

They're tough though too!

As Tommy Westerberg said last night.... "As he goes, we go.........He's our offense, he's the one who makes it go."

i agree with everything you said, especially the last part...but there is no way on god's green earth that his starting wide receivers average that height and weight. johnathon lee alone is 6'3 180 pounds...that means that the other 2 receivers would have to be in the 5'6-5'8 range and average like 150 pounds. no way...:D

[SLC]

No offense but I like Brewer for the best QB in the state.
Davis:
2910 total yards
14 passing TD's
22 rushing TD's
7 INT's
58.5% pass completion rate

Brewer:
3758 total yards
33 passing TD's
13 rushing TD's
2 INT's
71.9% pass completion rate


Agreed. I stated that in my earlier post. I mean all Brewer has done is replace one of the best QB's in the state last season.

[twcpfan1]

Agreed. I stated that in my earlier post. I mean all Brewer has done is replace one of the best QB's in the state last season.

Brewer is the Lake Travis QB?

LT sets up with 5 WRs just about on every play right? Of course he will have gawdy passing stats.

What are his rushing numbers? Is he a better double threat qb than Davis?

[t00 playa]

Davis reminds me of Odell James..... :eek:

[Magellan]

No... Not even best in the District Jacoby Walker is better from Westfield

Agreed. Very gifted athlete, smart with decisions, and picks his places to be aggressive very well.

Rumor has it that he's graduating early so he can be there for spring workouts at KU and possibly start next season.

[Eagle1986]

i agree with everything you said, especially the last part...but there is no way on god's green earth that his starting wide receivers average that height and weight. johnathon lee alone is 6'3 180 pounds...that means that the other 2 receivers would have to be in the 5'6-5'8 range and average like 150 pounds. no way...:D

Chase Gambill 5'9" 160
Alex Pastor 5'7" 155

[StonyPoint]

Brewer is the Lake Travis QB?

LT sets up with 5 WRs just about on every play right? Of course he will have gawdy passing stats.

What are his rushing numbers? Is he a better double threat qb than Davis?

Brewer only has like 400 rushing yards and averages like 5.8 a carry. I don't think Brewer is a better athlete than Davis but I think he is a better QB. And I also agree that Brewer having more yards isn't really a factor on which QB is better, due to the two teams different styles. I think having 33 passing TD's with only 2 INT's speaks volumes.

[BlakeJ]

In my opinion...and I will catch heat from this. Matt Brown is a one read and run QB. I didnt notice it before and didnt pay attention. I happened to click on a link in one of the Allen fans sigs...it was a Matt Brown video...noticed it...wacthed a ton more and saw that a SIGNIFICANT amount of the time he will make one read...and isntantly take off running if it isnt there. However he is a great scrambler and makes plays with his feet.

I PM'd that guy and asked if Matt was going to AZ to be a QB, and told him what I noticed...he never replied. Im guessing he took it personal when indeed I was just curious. :rolleyes:

[SLC]

Brewer is the Lake Travis QB?

Yes.



LT sets up with 5 WRs just about on every play right?

No, they mostly line up in 4 wide sets, they also line up with 3 wide sets with 2 RB and certainly they have a 5 wide package though.


Of course he will have gawdy passing stats.

There are plenty of spread QB's that dont have gawdy numbers, you still have to be a great QB to put up great numbers.


What are his rushing numbers?


62 carries for 362 yards and 13 tds.



Is he a better double threat qb than Davis?

Doubtful, though I didn't think that is what you said or meant when you started a thread that said this...


"Matt Davis, Klein Forest Soph, Hands Down Best QB in Texas?"


It didn't say "Best Duel Threat QB in Texas"


^^^.


Like I said before, it sounds like Davis is a stud and I have seen video of him playing, I just offered some I thought were very good in each grade except for a freshman. I do believe though that Brewer is the best QB in the state.

[twcpfan1]

Brewer or Davis. Sounds like you can't go wrong with either one.

Davis however is the safer bet irregardless of who's around him because of the things he can do on his own. But you're right. If it was purely qb's we're talking about, Brewer's numbers indicate that he is the one for that particular position. Although he got those numbers playing 4a schools. I know they are as good or better than 5a up top but they do drop off from about 4th on down. If I was however building an offense from scratch, I'm taking Davis before anybody else.

[Shamu85]

Stump Godfrey has to be listed as well IMO. He has been a starter since he was a sophomore.

This year:
Passing: 187-256 2,772 yds 35 TD's 5 Int

Rushing: 81 carries 382 yds 13 TD's

[SLC]

Stump Godfrey has to be listed as well IMO. He has been a starter since he was a sophomore.

This year:
Passing: 187-256 2,772 yds 35 TD's 5 Int

Rushing: 81 carries 382 yds 13 TD's


I got Stump listed first for Sr's...

As a Sr.


I'll take..


Darian Godfrey- Gilmer
Luke Woodley- HP
David Piland- Carroll
Hayden Hawk- Coppell


As a Jr.

Michael Brewer- Lake Travis (probably the best in the state)
Ryan Polite- Desoto
Paul Millard- Flower Mound


As a Soph...remember the name Brian Swan out of Alexander in the comming seasons, the kid is flat out a player, he's just on a team with a bad defense .

[Shamu85]

I got Stump listed first for Sr's...

Saw that, just wanted to get his stats (and my opinion:D) in there.

[SLC]

Saw that, just wanted to get his stats (and my opinion:D) in there.


Gotcha!


Gilmer's going to be tough to beat this year.

[JagDad07]

I haven't seen the Davis kid, but Michael Brewer is the real deal at Lake Traivs.

Gotta get that kid in maroon....

[kale25]

Two totally different kinds of QB's. Davis is a great runner and good passer. Comparing them is apples and oranges.

[SLC]

I haven't seen the Davis kid, but Michael Brewer is the real deal at Lake Traivs.

Gotta get that kid in maroon....


He'll be wearing Burnt Orange, sir.:)

[Shamu85]

Gotcha!


Gilmer's going to be tough to beat this year.

Juggernaut. Would love to see a Gilmer-Abilene Wylie final. I'm sure that would be one for the ages.

Ok, I'll stop the 3A talk on the main board now.

[KOfb92]

This talk is quite premature, he's a great QB no doubt, but I think some people are jumping on the bandwagon too soon. Give him until senior year to prove he's a top quarterback in the state and eventually the nation. 13-5A teams have been able to contain him for the most part. I may be wrong, but his play against the Woodlands may be his best individual performance and most complete performance (air & ground) of the season. He's a gifted athlete, but he has to make better reads and have better vision in the pocket which I think we'll see next season. He's one of the most dynamic athletes in open space, but he hasn't mastered pocket presence yet and finding the crease when he decides to take off. And again, that's the next step I think we'll see him make in 2010.