SA Southwest (10-0) vs Harlingen (11-0) @ Kingsville, Friday 11/20

[exhawk1997]

any thoughts??

[SLC]

Harlingen 42, Southwest 24..

[ThisDUDE]

Harlingen is definitely a solid team this year...


I'll give my thoughts later on...

Can any Southwest fans give us some insight to your team? I know they can run, but is that all they do?

[hunterbunter]

any thoughts??

Yes. Where's EEPH? :D

[hunterbunter]

Harlingen 42, Southwest 24..

WOW. Bold prediction. I really hope you're right.

[Saint210]

Harlingen is definitely a solid team this year...


I'll give my thoughts later on...

Can any Southwest fans give us some insight to your team? I know they can run, but is that all they do?
SW rarely passes but we can throw the ball and the receivers have and CAN made big plays, every game or so there is at least one TD pass of 50+ yards.

SW defense is nasty, most of the opposition's points from this season have came in when the 2nd/3rd team defense was in there. They had a 42-0 halftime lead against Rio Grande City in the first round.

And last but not least...
I don't see Harlingen stopping SW RB, he is a monster and can bust off long runs all game! He rarely plays a full game because the leads SW builds, usually taken out in the 2nd quarter. If he has to play the whole game he will get the job done.

[BandidoNB]

I dare say that the Harlingen Cardinals will take care of the Southwest Dragons 45-24

[Cardinal]

Harlingen is going to have to play four complete quarters. If you've followed the Cardinals from game one and on, it's apparent that we haven't played a complete game. It only gets harder from here on, and everything needs to be working like a well oiled machine

Harlingen has committed way to many penalties on crucial downs. This needs to be eliminated NOW.

Southwest will NOT be a push over. All aspects of the game need to be in high gear.

[RGVBadBoy]

And last but not least...
I don't see Harlingen stopping SW RB, he is a monster and can bust off long runs all game! He rarely plays a full game because the leads SW builds, usually taken out in the 2nd quarter. If he has to play the whole game he will get the job done.

I dont think Tre'vion has run against this kind of Defense. Sure he KILLED RioGrandeCity, but RGC was know for their weak D. Harlingen has speed to burn in the DEs.... There is a reason Harlingen ONLY gives up 185yrds in TOTAL Offense a game and every other team gives up ATLEAST 300...

Good Luck Cardinals!!!!

[Cardinal]

Here's a video of the Cardinals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYWeOmv-LJA

[RGVBadBoy]

Here's a video of the Cardinals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYWeOmv-LJA

For those of you who don't know... That team in the Video is PSJA North, they are 10-1 so far this season, their lone loss came to Harlingen 42-14. Oh, and 1 of those tds for the Raiders was on a FREAK run...

[Cardinal]

For those of you who don't know... That team in the Video is PSJA North, they are 10-1 so far this season, their lone loss came to Harlingen 42-14. Oh, and 1 of those tds for the Raiders was on a FREAK run...

Yeah...the RB's knee clearly hit the turf. The other TD was aided by about 45 yards worth of penalties. Something they need to fix...

[exhawk1997]

i would love to see the harlingen run D vs. the Southwest run O.....

should get interesting...

[ThisDUDE]

i would love to see the harlingen run D vs. the Southwest run O.....

should get interesting...


harlingen loves to hit..it's going to be fun :D

[DRAGON PRIDE]

Sw is gonna be hard to beat. According to your RGV forum the cards dropped 9 td's on rgc in the pre season. Sw dropped 6 in the first half. Three in the first four offensive plays of the game. It could have been alot more if they would have played the first teams the entire game.everyone dissed sw for playing in a weak district but if you ask me the cards have a weaker district. I'm almost positive steele by far had the better defensive ends we faced and Tre dropped 263 on them. The rest of the season he was hurt and running on one leg and didn't get much playing time so he could heal. Against rgc he was the beast he is and ran through them. Keep thinking the it's gonna be a cake walk cuz you are in for a rude awakening.even if you do beat us it's not gonna come easy. Dragon 1st team defense is allowing less than seven points a game and stopped one of the best running backs in the region (malcolm brown).we r coming for you and we coming for them red bird feathers for our hats.

[Firebird]

Sw is gonna be hard to beat. According to your RGV forum the cards dropped 9 td's on rgc in the pre season. Sw dropped 6 in the first half. Three in the first four offensive plays of the game. It could have been alot more if they would have played the first teams the entire game.everyone dissed sw for playing in a weak district but if you ask me the cards have a weaker district. I'm almost positive steele by far had the better defensive ends we faced and Tre dropped 263 on them. The rest of the season he was hurt and running on one leg and didn't get much playing time so he could heal. Against rgc he was the beast he is and ran through them. Keep thinking the it's gonna be a cake walk cuz you are in for a rude awakening.even if you do beat us it's not gonna come easy. Dragon 1st team defense is allowing less than seven points a game and stopped one of the best running backs in the region (malcolm brown).we r coming for you and we coming for them red bird feathers for our hats.

Scrimmages and playoff games are very good comparisons.

[SLC]

WOW. Bold prediction. I really hope you're right.


It may be bold, it may not be. I just believe the Cardinals have a great team this year. They score well and play great defense. Even if my score is off, I have no doubt that Harlingen will win the game.

[kbarj]

As a Clark fan, I have no skin in this game - but I would dearly love to see it. This is a classic matchup of unbeaten teams with differing styles. Both have excellent defenses and there are no common opponents to give you any idea of what's going to happen. This might be the most entertaining game of the weekend.

Good luck to both teams!

[Cardinal]

Scrimmages and playoff games are very good comparisons.


I'm glad someone pointed that out...

[DRAGON PRIDE]

That was my point ,scrimmages and playoffs are two different points in a season. It's gonna be a good game just not a blow out by either side. Score will be within two touchdowns. You guys are funny,valley teams always talk but can never back it up! Even eagle pass beat a valley team. That's even more unbelievable. See u guys Friday !!

[exhawk1997]

That was my point ,scrimmages and playoffs are two different points in a season. It's gonna be a good game just not a blow out by either side. Score will be within two touchdowns. You guys are funny,valley teams always talk but can never back it up! Even eagle pass beat a valley team. That's even more unbelievable. See u guys Friday !!

no one is talking trash here you ****** bag, you were the 1st person to talk trash... and you were trying to compare a scrimmage vs. a real football game.... :doh: your an idiot...

trying to compare teams and districts is hard enough...

get real....

now i really hope we shut your pie hole up... :mad:

[Saint210]

Two undefeated teams from 5a's weakest districts, this is a tough one to compare. It can go either way because common opponents don't always tell the truth.

[ThisDUDE]

Two undefeated teams from 5a's weakest districts, this is a tough one to compare. It can go either way because common opponents don't always tell the truth.



31-5A wasn't weak this season..

[ThisDUDE]

Our lowest seed defeated 32-5A's district champ...2 cents.

[RGVBadBoy]

Even eagle pass beat a valley team. That's even more unbelievable. See u guys Friday !!

EP beat a Valley team desimated by injuries, no QB, no Div 1 WR, a crippled RB that ran all OVER EM'!!! But whatever guy, good luck to your dragons, lets see whos talkin after the Cardinals come to town...:D

[Saint210]

Our lowest seed defeated 32-5A's district champ...2 cents.
I'll give them credit for that :notworthy

But I still believe the strongest districts are from the Dallas and Houston area. San Antonio & Austin have pretty good districts too.

[exhawk1997]

I'll give them credit for that :notworthy

But I still believe the strongest districts are from the Dallas and Houston area. San Antonio & Austin have pretty good districts too.

i agree with you... north austin and austin and san antonio have some great districts.... Im so glad i live in austin... watch some of the best teams play week in and weeks out... go 16-5A & 25-5A... :notworthy

[exhawk1997]

EP beat a Valley team desimated by injuries, no QB, no Div 1 WR, a crippled RB that ran all OVER EM'!!! But whatever guy, good luck to your dragons, lets see whos talkin after the Cardinals come to town...:D

eagle pass is playing psja north this week... dont think eagle pass will win tho :D ....

[Saint210]

For anyone interested in how SW plays heres a full game video from san antonio's Thursday night lights

http://kmys.tv/tnl/

[BDB]

i think it'll be a close game. probably should be region IV game of the week.

[fgoodwin]

i think it'll be a close game. probably should be region IV game of the week.
Could be (hard to beat the allure of a playoff match between two unbeatens), but there's also a minor tussle going on in Converse Friday nite between a pair of no-names (Westlake vs. Judson) . . .

[Redbird]

Could be (hard to beat the allure of a playoff match between two unbeatens), but there's also a minor tussle going on in Converse Friday nite between a pair of no-names (Westlake vs. Judson) . . .



That Westlake/Judson matchup is one to see. That game is gonna be a good one. Who is favored in that game??

[RedRage00]

Could be (hard to beat the allure of a playoff match between two unbeatens), but there's also a minor tussle going on in Converse Friday nite between a pair of no-names (Westlake vs. Judson) . . .

Judson isn't the same Judson so I don't think that deserves game of the week for Region 4.

IMO, SW and Harlingen could go either way. It's going to be a good game.

[fgoodwin]

Judson isn't the same Judson so I don't think that deserves game of the week for Region 4.

IMO, SW and Harlingen could go either way. It's going to be a good game.

No doubt - I was being facetious (sortof). Good luck to both teams; as a Clark backer, we're worrying about Bowie and the bottom half of the bracket right now!

[Shadowweaver]

my money is on Harlingen to take this game.

Go Cardinals! :cool:

[TEAMFALCON]

Every year the RGV sends a team into battle with high hopes. This year is no different.

Harlingen has shown their defense to be stout and their offense to be explosive.

I've seen SW RB's and NO team in the RGV has faced a runner like that this year.


I'm hoping Harlingen's D will be the difference.

[fgoodwin]

That Westlake/Judson matchup is one to see. That game is gonna be a good one. Who is favored in that game??
Didn't mean to hi-jack the thread.

I'm not sure who is favored. Both are 9-2, but Judson is at home. Historically, they split the only two times they've played each other.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programing . . .

[RedRage00]

Every year the RGV sends a team into battle with high hopes. This year is no different.

Harlingen has shown their defense to be stout and their offense to be explosive.

I've seen SW RB's and NO team in the RGV has faced a runner like that this year.


I'm hoping Harlingen's D will be the difference.

I'm a Harlingen fan this season! Go Cards!

[Mean DT]

any thoughts??Should be a good game, gotta go with SW.

[BDB]

I'm a Harlingen fan this season! Go Cards!

YOU WOULD! :mad:

[RedRage00]

YOU WOULD! :mad:

...the red runs deep....

[BDB]

...the red runs deep....

better dead than red.

[Cardinal]

Every year the RGV sends a team into battle with high hopes. This year is no different.

Harlingen has shown their defense to be stout and their offense to be explosive.

I've seen SW RB's and NO team in the RGV has faced a runner like that this year.


I'm hoping Harlingen's D will be the difference.

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[SLC]

YOU WOULD! :mad:



Ha. The RedRage actually fits.:)

[Firebird]

I'm a Harlingen fan this season! Go Cards!

w00t!

Big Red is going to have to play a great game. This is the best 2nd round matchup for an RGV team in years.

[RedRage00]

Ha. The RedRage actually fits.:)

I know. I need to find a team in the 'plex with red in their colors...isn't Coppell red? :D

[exhawk1997]

That Westlake/Judson matchup is one to see. That game is gonna be a good one. Who is favored in that game??

westlake is favored slightly.... judson is a young team... but i gotta go with westlake winning this one easily.. more than double digits....

[RGVBadBoy]

Is it true that Laredo United held SW to 3pts at the half?? If thats so, Harlingen wins in a blowout!!!

In fact, United actually had the LEAD with their Back UP QB who passed for 243yds on SW's DBs, the problem was that United turned the ball over, 5ints to only 2tds.... Can't win football games tossin' pics like that...

[Saint210]

Is it true that Laredo United held SW to 3pts at the half?? If thats so, Harlingen wins in a blowout!!!

In fact, United actually had the LEAD with their Back UP QB who passed for 243yds on SW's DBs, the problem was that United turned the ball over, 5ints to only 2tds.... Can't win football games tossin' pics like that...

Everyone has bad games... plus I dont think our starting RB played at all. It doesn't matter we won comfortably at the end of it.

SW WINS THIS FRIDAY!
I think I will be attending the game :D

[BandidoNB]

Is it true that Laredo United held SW to 3pts at the half?? If thats so, Harlingen wins in a blowout!!!

In fact, United actually had the LEAD with their Back UP QB who passed for 243yds on SW's DBs, the problem was that United turned the ball over, 5ints to only 2tds.... Can't win football games tossin' pics like that...

Has Harlingen played Laredo United?

[Redbird]

Has Harlingen played Laredo United?


Not this year. Harlingen beat laredo united in the 2nd round of the playoffs last year 35-7.

I think in that laredo united game, the southwest running back played a quarter or a half but was hampered with a deep thigh bruise. Let me go back and check but laredo united did play them tough the first half.

Harlingen can't think that it's gonna be easy because it's not. Southwest is a good football team and has the running game to prove it. Harlingen needs to focus and the d needs to play like we know they can. It should be a good game.

[Saint210]

Not this year. Harlingen beat laredo united in the 2nd round of the playoffs last year 35-7.

I think in that laredo united game, the southwest running back played a quarter or a half but was hampered with a deep thigh bruise. Let me go back and check but laredo united did play them tough the first half.

Harlingen can't think that it's gonna be easy because it's not. Southwest is a good football team and has the running game to prove it. Harlingen needs to focus and the d needs to play like we know they can. It should be a good game.

That whole bolded statement is correct! Yes laredo did play tough though.

[RGVBadBoy]

Its gonna be a heck of a game, I hope Harlingen pulls it out, certainly not a game that the Cards should take lightly....

SouthWest looks good on paper, we need to wait and see, I have not seen them play and I hope Harlingen takes it to em'

[RedRage00]

Btw, how is the RGV forum? I remember they would ban you just for not being from the valley LOL...do the nazi's still run it?

[SLC]

I know. I need to find a team in the 'plex with red in their colors...isn't Coppell red? :D

Yep..red and white..So is Lake Highlands, Irving MacArthur and Mequite Horn.


North Garland is red and black, so is Burleson.


South Garland is red, blue and white, so is Grapevine.


Cedar Hill is red, black and white.


South Grand Prarie is red and gold.


Arlington Houston is red and blue.


Several others wih red in their colors, but those are the main ones.

[DRAGON PRIDE]

True united gave us a hell of a game.Offensively ythough they were out sinc the whole first half. They were trying to get Tre' going but he couldn't cut or have the break away speed with that deep thigh bruise.He suffered that thing in practice after the game with shertz clemens was cancelled. His numbers don't reflect his true talent. In almost all the games he played 1 and one half qtrs or did not play at all. Last week he was finally feeling one hundred percent and it showed. 9 att. 196 yds 5 td's he only played qtr and a half. I could be wrong but,,,,,,,, I think the redbirds are gonna have to play a hell of a game on defense to stop him. If they can't no way the Dragons blow this game.

funny how this football season stuff goes. United I thought had a decent enough team even without their star Qb to make the playoffs. They hung tight with SW and Del Rio then they lose to Alexander! You just dont know how the match ups favor you from team to team. I'm looking forward to a great game and some good food at the King's Inn. good luck to Both teams and I hope Everyone getst to and from the game safe.

[clemensbuff]

Sw is gonna be hard to beat. According to your RGV forum the cards dropped 9 td's on rgc in the pre season. Sw dropped 6 in the first half. Three in the first four offensive plays of the game. It could have been alot more if they would have played the first teams the entire game.everyone dissed sw for playing in a weak district but if you ask me the cards have a weaker district. I'm almost positive steele by far had the better defensive ends we faced and Tre dropped 263 on them. The rest of the season he was hurt and running on one leg and didn't get much playing time so he could heal. Against rgc he was the beast he is and ran through them. Keep thinking the it's gonna be a cake walk cuz you are in for a rude awakening.even if you do beat us it's not gonna come easy. Dragon 1st team defense is allowing less than seven points a game and stopped one of the best running backs in the region (malcolm brown).we r coming for you and we coming for them red bird feathers for our hats.

You didn't stop M Brown from Steele!!! Coach Jinks chose not to run him in a game that didn't mean chit to Steele!!! Brown was over 100 yds his 1st 3 carries and only got 12 carries for the entire game!

You have a good team at SW but you seem to forget fairly quick that Steele could have kicked a FG (twice as a matter of fact) at the end of the game to win it, or they could have put Brown in on 4th and goal from the 1 and let him run it in to beat you guys. Steele also had 2 long TD runs by the QB called back in that game! You won a sloppily played game 14-13 that didn't mean enough to coach Jinks to run his horse in because he wanted him and needed him healthy for this Saturday to even stand a chance against a Great Lake Travis team!!!

SW is a solid, solid FB team and will give the Cards all they want this week and I truly hope they can win the ball game and if you do, then finish it up and take the region and you'll start getting the respect that all the good people at SW want!

[Redbird]

Oh no doubt that Harlingen has to play a great game defensively. That running game you have is a good one and the backs you have can really run tough. Harlingen has put up great numbers offensively and has athletes at all the skill positions. Harlingen is a tough team to defend and Southwest will have to play a great game defensively to stop them also. It's gonna be a classic matchup and whichever defense can make the big stops will win this game imo. I think people will be surprised at how good Harlingen is if Harlingen plays like they have all year. May this be an injury free game and whomever is traveling to and from the game....have a safe trip. Go Cardinals!

[clemensbuff]

westlake is favored slightly.... judson is a young team... but i gotta go with westlake winning this one easily.. more than double digits....


So WL is going to win by 100+??? WTF:eek::confused::p

[Redbird]

So WL is going to win by 100+??? WTF:eek::confused::p


:laugh I was gonna say something to exhawk but decided to leave it alone.

[fgoodwin]

SW RB Tre'vion Johnson was awarded a game ball by the San Antonio Express-News:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/high_school/High_school_rewindfast_forward.html

[Cardinal]

Btw, how is the RGV forum? I remember they would ban you just for not being from the valley LOL...do the nazi's still run it?

LOL! If your talking about the 956sportsforum, it is run by nazi's, well one in particular. More like an emotional kid, but entertaining at the least...

[exhawk1997]

So WL is going to win by 100+??? WTF:eek::confused:

thats how they roll... :p

:laugh I was gonna say something to exhawk but decided to leave it alone.

:p

[Saint210]

LOL! If your talking about the 956sportsforum, it is run by nazi's, well one in particular. More like an emotional kid, but entertaining at the least...
I recently signed up there and there are few SA fans :p

Everyone there is so sure that Harlingen will beat Southwest, but its ok the game will be on friday and then that's when the bragging can begin.

[countfisto]

How does this Harlingen team compare to last year's Los Fresnos team? If I remember, Los Fresnos blew out their competition during the regular season just like this Harlingen team has apparently done from what I've heard. However, Los Fresnos ran into a roadblock in Reagan.

Before I thought that team would be the 2nd coming of that 1990 Mission team in terms of domination but it was not to be. Sounds like this Harlingen team can reach that level so hopefully they will not disappoint. Close but got to give slight edge to Harlingen..

[RGVBadBoy]

This Harlingen team has been more dominating that Los Fresnos was last season. I hate to say this, but Los Fresnos has been guilty of running up scores on weak teams, in fact the pounded Edinburg North last BiDistrict, putting 70pts on em, they got theirs this season when Edinburg North handled them 60-27:D


This Harlingen team is usually done by half time, UNLIKE LF, their D seems more dominating and they are much MUCH more balanced on Offense aswell. Where LFs QB was a big FB type runner that was not real accurate passing, Harlingens' Mac Sanchez is a slashing type speedster with a highly accurate arm. LF had some decent WR, but I heard a rumor that Harlingens #1 Reyna ran a 4.33 40 at that Schnall Combine!?!? Harlingen is faster than LF was.

[ThisDUDE]

Hate to put down LF(might get banned in the rgvforums) but even harlingen's backup RB is way faster, cuts quicker and runs harder than that rb Los Fresnos had last season.


It'll be a tough game but, I think the Cards can pull it off :D

[RedRage00]

How does this Harlingen team compare to last year's Los Fresnos team? If I remember, Los Fresnos blew out their competition during the regular season just like this Harlingen team has apparently done from what I've heard. However, Los Fresnos ran into a roadblock in Reagan.

Before I thought that team would be the 2nd coming of that 1990 Mission team in terms of domination but it was not to be. Sounds like this Harlingen team can reach that level so hopefully they will not disappoint. Close but got to give slight edge to Harlingen..

Southwest is no Reagan...they're still a good team but I think Reagan the last few years was better.

[RGVBadBoy]

Hate to put down LF(might get banned in the rgvforums) but even harlingen's backup RB is way faster, cuts quicker and runs harder than that rb Los Fresnos had last season.


It'll be a tough game but, I think the Cards can pull it off :D

Seeing LF play last season against Reagan, I was impressed with the Falcon Defense. I think Harlingen brings the same kind of Defense with a staggeringly better Offense, their OLine is not as big as LFs, but their skill players are faster and the O is more balanced. Last season I kept saying "If the Falcons could pass better, they'd beat Reagan." They didnt beat Reagan, because of the fact that they were too 1 dimensional and kept giving Reagan good field positioning.

[RGVBadBoy]

This is the article that talks about the Harlingen Cardinal WR Anthony Reyna #1. Apperantly the kid can flat out FLY!!!!

Valley football players to test skills at annual combine
Syndicated on May-22-2009. Courtesy of RGVSports.com
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High school football athletes from across the Rio Grande Valley will put their skills to the test today at the 6th Annual RGV Football Combine at McAllen Memorial Stadium.

Former NFL coach and scout Steve Schnall runs the annual event to help Valley football players gain recognition from a region that tends to get overlooked by scouts.

"From this, I do [other combines] in Chicago and South Carolina," said Schnall, who was an assistant coach on the 1987 New York Giants Super Bowl team. "But the one I'm most interested in is here because I live here and I'm trying to help the South Texas kids, the Rio Grande Valley kids who don't get tremendous exposure, not because they're not good, but because they're in a distant location from colleges."

The combine will run from 9 a.m. to noon today and it is open to Valley athletes who will be in the ninth through 12th grades next year. Registration starts at 8:15 a.m. and the fee is $20.

Schnall used to be the top timer at the NFL Scouting Combine and has attended the event for the past 26 years. The drills featured at the RGV Football Combine include speed and agility tests like 40-yard dash, 20-yard shuttle and 60-yard shuttle, as well as strength-tests like the vertical jump and the 185-pound bench press. Schnall said that the drills are done identically to what's done at the NFL Combine.

Last year's RGV Combine featured some impressive performances. Then-sophomore Anthony Reyna of Harlingen High clocked a combine-best 4.33 40 time. Then-junior Jacob Garza of Edinburg High notched 35 reps in the 185-pound bench press.

Some of the Valley's brightest past stars, like McAllen Memorial alum and current Texas A&M player Bradley Stephens and Weslaco High alum current Texas State player Mishak Rivas, have participated at the RGV Combine. Schnall said that he has invited many of the Valley legends that were past participants to help out at today's combine.

"What's nice is some of the kids that are playing football now in college, some of what I call the ‘combine alumni,' they come back sometime and help with the combine because they're excited about it," Schnall said. "They help record and help the kids with the drills."

Stephen K. Lee covers high school sports for Valley Freedom Newspapers. You can reach him at (956) 683-4442 or via e-mail at slee@themonitor.com

[Redbird]

I recently signed up there and there are few SA fans :p

Everyone there is so sure that Harlingen will beat Southwest, but its ok the game will be on friday and then that's when the bragging can begin.


It's no disrespect to Southwest, it's just that Harlingen fans are confident in their Cardinals. We all know it's gonna be a tough game and that Southwest is a good team, it's just that most of the people on that forum support Harlingen. That's all it is saint210.

[Cardinal]

Hate to put down LF(might get banned in the rgvforums) but even harlingen's backup RB is way faster, cuts quicker and runs harder than that rb Los Fresnos had last season.


It'll be a tough game but, I think the Cards can pull it off :D


Shawn Hernadez is a heck of a RB. Too bad he doesn't get a good amount of reps.

FYI: He clocked in a faster 40 than Pablo this past off-season.

[clemensbuff]

Last year's RGV Combine featured some impressive performances. Then-sophomore Anthony Reyna of Harlingen High clocked a combine-best 4.33 40 time. Then-junior Jacob Garza of Edinburg High notched 35 reps in the 185-pound bench press.
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:eek: That is burning speed and brute strength for sure!!!

[TEAMFALCON]

Seeing LF play last season against Reagan, I was impressed with the Falcon Defense. I think Harlingen brings the same kind of Defense with a staggeringly better Offense, their OLine is not as big as LFs, but their skill players are faster and the O is more balanced. Last season I kept saying "If the Falcons could pass better, they'd beat Reagan." They didnt beat Reagan, because of the fact that they were too 1 dimensional and kept giving Reagan good field positioning.

If we had to compare, I think the Harlingen Offense is more dynamic with Sanchez at QB. Add to that they freaking stout defense I like the Cardinals chances.

VS Reagan last year, Reagan Defense stole the show. It was 7-3 in the 4th quarter and LF was playing the 26-5A Champ.

The speed of Sanchez and his passing ability with the RB's speed will also be key.

[fzone]

Tough matchup for both teams. Wish I could go watch my nephews play. Depending on the source, weather calls for 60-80% chance of rain during the day, less at night. Kingsville field is natural grass which could slow down the running game. My pick since Austin Reagan beat the Cardinals 28-27 in early seventies has been and pretty sure will always be Harlingen.

Go Cards

[Saint210]

Then-sophomore Anthony Reyna of Harlingen High clocked a combine-best 4.33 40 time. Then-junior Jacob Garza of Edinburg High notched 35 reps in the 185-pound bench press.


Who here honestly thinks that guy ran a 40 time that fast? Heres a good article on 40 times if anyone cares...
http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050418/news_1s18forty.html

Back on topic, Harlingen has my respect and I know they are a good team... Still waiting for friday :D

Today @ school the principal stated over the intercom that one of Harlingen's newspaper articles said something about Southwest having more players than fans! lol

[Redbird]

Who here honestly thinks that guy ran a 40 time that fast? Heres a good article on 40 times if anyone cares...
http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050418/news_1s18forty.html

Back on topic, Harlingen has my respect and I know they are a good team... Still waiting for friday :D

Today @ school the principal stated over the intercom that one of Harlingen's newspaper articles said something about Southwest having more players than fans! lol



Dude...I don't know where you guys get your news from but we haven't even had an article talking about your team yet...just the time and place we meet you guys and they have never said such a thing. If you guys need to start making things up to get fired up for this game so be it but just so you do know....your principal doesn't know squat. :)

By the way, do you guys have more players than fans?? Just messing with ya. Hope you guys have a safe trip down for this game and may everyone stay safe. Good Luck to both teams.....a little more to my Cardinals though.

[fzone]

"Hey those dragons are beatable their defense is very fast but once you get to the secondary is a sure touchdown. their offense is #28and he will always run straight up the middle because of his size.
and believe me they have more players then fans".

Hey Saint210 -- the above was actually a comment from one of the readers. It looks like his team has already played Southwest before. Probably from your district. If you're principal needs that to fire the team up, good luck

Go Cards

[Saint210]

"Hey those dragons are beatable their defense is very fast but once you get to the secondary is a sure touchdown. their offense is #28and he will always run straight up the middle because of his size.
and believe me they have more players then fans".

Hey Saint210 -- the above was actually a comment from one of the readers. It looks like his team has already played Southwest before. Probably from your district. If you're principal needs that to fire the team up, good luck

Go Cards

I think the statement was directed more towards the students and staff, she said we should attend the game no doubt and they need our support! The players are always motivated every game and community support always helps. It's obvious how much support valley schools get and I can't deny that. I just hope SW will match up with Harlingen fan-wise :notworthy

[RGVBadBoy]

Who here honestly thinks that guy ran a 40 time that fast? Heres a good article on 40 times if anyone cares...
http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050418/news_1s18forty.html

Back on topic, Harlingen has my respect and I know they are a good team... Still waiting for friday :D

Today @ school the principal stated over the intercom that one of Harlingen's newspaper articles said something about Southwest having more players than fans! lol

I guess the guys at the Schnall Combine and the other RGV athletes beleive the kid ran that fast, by the way, the crew that holds the Schnall Combine are not affiliated with the athletes or the programs around the RGV..... So I guess, it must be all lies...

[clemensbuff]

I guess the guys at the Schnall Combine and the other RGV athletes beleive the kid ran that fast, by the way, the crew that holds the Schnall Combine are not affiliated with the athletes or the programs around the RGV..... So I guess, it must be all lies...


I think he's having a hard time believing it because there are precious few pro DBs that run true 4.3 and under 40s, much less hs kids! I believe that Aaron Green from Madison ran a 4.3 something last year at one and he is a burner. I'd say if they had legit timers and he didn't have a 20mph tail wind then it is what it is and the kid is legit.

[RGVBadBoy]

I think he's having a hard time believing it because there are precious few pro DBs that run true 4.3 and under 40s, much less hs kids! I believe that Aaron Green from Madison ran a 4.3 something last year at one and he is a burner. I'd say if they had legit timers and he didn't have a 20mph tail wind then it is what it is and the kid is legit.

There were some outa this world times at that combine this season too.... Some kid from McAllen Memorial ran a 4.39 this season, he was a good player, but he didnt look lilke he ran under a 4.50... I've heard that Anthony Reyna from Harlingen is a FRIGGIN' BURNER, we'll see I guess, Reyna is a lil guy though, he's probably 155lbs...

[clemensbuff]

There were some outa this world times at that combine this season too.... Some kid from McAllen Memorial ran a 4.39 this season, he was a good player, but he didnt look lilke he ran under a 4.50... I've heard that Anthony Reyna from Harlingen is a FRIGGIN' BURNER, we'll see I guess, Reyna is a lil guy though, he's probably 155lbs...


There are some guys out there who can burn it on the track but certainly don't look like it in full football gear. And then there are some that are just the opposite! I would think that these guys that are clocking in the 4.3-4.4 range would be getting some serious looks from colleges???

[Cardinal]

There are some guys out there who can burn it on the track but certainly don't look like it in full football gear. And then there are some that are just the opposite! I would think that these guys that are clocking in the 4.3-4.4 range would be getting some serious looks from colleges???


I think his size is what hurts him the most.

Though he benchs around 210 or 215 from what I heard, he only weighs 150 lbs and stands 5'6''.

Don't let the size fool you though, he hasn't been stopped all year long. SW should be a good test...

[RGVBadBoy]

I think his size is what hurts him the most.

Though he benchs around 210 or 215 from what I heard, he only weighs 150 lbs and stands 5'6''.

Don't let the size fool you though, he hasn't been stopped all year long. SW should be a good test...

Yeah, he's a lil guy, but I doubt he'll be doing alot of powerlifting on the field... WR screen, a block or two and he's GONE!!!

[DRAGON PRIDE]

Looks like it will be a cold and rainy day on game day. I think the dragons will benefit from this.

[exhawk1997]

the rain does bring an extra challenge to the cards....



GO CARDS..

[fgoodwin]

Good luck, Dragons!

[Cardinal]

Looks like it will be a cold and rainy day on game day. I think the dragons will benefit from this.

I would think so.

[nevaplayedk9]

southwest in a route.....

[Pride]

Southwest by 10.

[Redbird]

the rain does bring an extra challenge to the cards....



GO CARDS..




I still like our chances.....;)

[RGVBadBoy]

IF it is dry, which it probably wont be, Harlingen routes SW, because of the rain, this benefits SW greatly.... I hate this damn rain!!!! THis is a major concern for the Cardinals...

[hunterbunter]

Btw, how is the RGV forum? I remember they would ban you just for not being from the valley LOL...do the nazi's still run it?

I dont know...why dont you come find out. :ninja:

[fzone]

I don't think it benefits SW greatly. SW is going to run regardless of conditions. I should cut down their ability to run outside because of cutbacks. You kind of have to run north & south and if Cards can fill gaps, they should be able to slow them down. PAM beat North Shore (7-6) earlier this year in horrible muddy conditions. If it's not raining, the better passing game might be able to move the ball. Just my opinion.

Go Cards

[exhawk1997]

man i wished that harlingen would wear all black... that would be nice..

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n139/rlopezjr05/CardinalJersey2.jpg

[fgoodwin]

The rain is still off and on (as I write this, I'm in Kerrville).

Not sure about conditions in Kingsville, but I imagine the wet turf and possibility of more rain could impact the rushing game of both sides.

I hope all the fans driving to this game have a safe trip.

[hunterbunter]

Looks like the Harlingen Cardinals are takin it to 'em!

[Vergon]

Looks like the Harlingen Cardinals are takin it to 'em!

looks like they did. Next.

[hunterbunter]

looks like they did. Next.

Vergon :eek:

:notworthy

[SLC]

Congrats to the Cardinals, so my prediction was off. I had the winner though.


Go Big Red!!

[BDB]

looks like they did. Next.

:eek::notworthy my new favorite poster.

[hunterbunter]

:eek::notworthy my new favorite poster.

Careful. Redrage might fight you for that one.

[Firebird]

Congrats to the Cardinals, so my prediction was off. I had the winner though.


Go Big Red!!

I don't think your predictions factored in that Javelina Stadium would be Lake Javelina at kickoff on Friday. Without the terrible weather, this game looks different for both teams. Weather caused low scores across the Coastal Bend. I think Gregory Portland only attempted two passes in the 2nd half against Mission.

[BDB]

Careful. Redrage might fight you for that one.

a la vergon..... you're right.


red's fierce, too.

[SLC]

I don't think your predictions factored in that Javelina Stadium would be Lake Javelina at kickoff on Friday. Without the terrible weather, this game looks different for both teams. Weather caused low scores across the Coastal Bend. I think Gregory Portland only attempted two passes in the 2nd half against Mission.


They didn't, er..really couldn't. I just use the raw numbers that are available to me. It never can factor in bad weather, injuries..etc. I do try to factor in turn overs and penalties though, going by what they have for the season.

It seems there were alot of games affected by the weather...cold is one thing, but rain just kills games.

[Firebird]

They didn't, er..really couldn't. I just use the raw numbers that are available to me. It never can factor in bad weather, injuries..etc. I do try to factor in turn overs and penalties though, going by what they have for the season.

It seems there were alot of games affected by the weather...cold is one thing, but rain just kills games.

I am not criticizing your picks, I think you do a good job. Just letting you know what the conditions were like down in Kingsville.

I thought that the running game of Southwest would really be helped by the monsoon like weather, but it also appeared to give them the drops. On a dry field who knows how this one turns out.

[Firebird]

They didn't, er..really couldn't. I just use the raw numbers that are available to me. It never can factor in bad weather, injuries..etc. I do try to factor in turn overs and penalties though, going by what they have for the season.

It seems there were alot of games affected by the weather...cold is one thing, but rain just kills games.

Field conditions as posted over on 956 sports...

http://www.956sportsforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=547&d=1258771730

[SLC]

I am not criticizing your picks, I think you do a good job. Just letting you know what the conditions were like down in Kingsville.
I thought that the running game of Southwest would really be helped by the monsoon like weather, but it also appeared to give them the drops. On a dry field who knows how this one turns out.


No, I know you weren't criticizing at all...I was just agreeing with you that I couldn't factor in the weather like that. I had a chance to adjust the score a little due to the field conditions (that people had come on and said it was going to be raining prior to the game) but I figured what the hell, let it roll.

No doubt rain affects the speedier passing team more than the running team (at least usually). On a dry field I think I had it pretty close. Lets just say (I know it doesnt work this way, retrospectively, but) double each teams points tonight on a dry field and you could get 42-28..pretty close to what I had.

[Saint210]

I attended the game and both teams were obviously hurt by the horrible field, no matter what the outcome would have been I wish they would have played on a clear day.

The beat us FAIR AND SQUARE. Every time it felt like our running backs were going to bust off big runs .. they slipped! Harlingen was good and smart enough to capitalize early in the first quarter and that right there set the tone for the game. Aside from the first two minutes of the game, both teams struggled on offense. I'm very confident SW could have played way better and I'm sure Harlingen feels the same way. SW managed to make a little comeback in the fourth but was picked off and that right there sealed the game for the cards. Whenever our offense had the ball it felt like weren't gonna score, as if we were playing against the cardinals + the field. Of course they were playing on the same field, so thats no excuse. It's just they took advantage of our turnovers. The game seemed to me as if it were a "Who could beat the weather?" matchup.

Congratulations to both teams for playing hard and having great seasons. The Harlingen Cardinals have won my respect with their toughness.

[Vergon]

a la vergon..... you're right.


red's fierce, too.


remember guys....it's pronounced "Vir (Virginia) - Gone (Gone in 60 seconds)"...

:ninja:

[RGVBadBoy]

I'm very proud of Harlingen, though I thought they would win all along, they came through in a big way despite the adverse conditions... My Sharyland Rattlers are done, but I'm thankful I still have 1 more "Big Red" to root for...

Goodluck Cards, Give em' hell!!!:notworthy

[exhawk1997]

Great game cards....


told you all that westlake would win easily... i meant by more than 10 points... :p

lets get our revenge... :mad:

[fzone]

Good game Cards. Like I stated, Trevion wouldn't be able to make cutbacks, definitely helped Harlingen. I'll probably be at the dome next week.

Go Cards

[Redbird]

I attended the game and both teams were obviously hurt by the horrible field, no matter what the outcome would have been I wish they would have played on a clear day.

The beat us FAIR AND SQUARE. Every time it felt like our running backs were going to bust off big runs .. they slipped! Harlingen was good and smart enough to capitalize early in the first quarter and that right there set the tone for the game. Aside from the first two minutes of the game, both teams struggled on offense. I'm very confident SW could have played way better and I'm sure Harlingen feels the same way. SW managed to make a little comeback in the fourth but was picked off and that right there sealed the game for the cards. Whenever our offense had the ball it felt like weren't gonna score, as if we were playing against the cardinals + the field. Of course they were playing on the same field, so thats no excuse. It's just they took advantage of our turnovers. The game seemed to me as if it were a "Who could beat the weather?" matchup.

Congratulations to both teams for playing hard and having great seasons. The Harlingen Cardinals have won my respect with their toughness.


Good classy post. Congrats on a great season and I too wish the game would have been played on a clear day but hey...that's football. Man, the rain was coming down in buckets last night and both teams did as best they could under those conditions. Anyway, great job by both teams and good luck to the Cards against westlake.

[Cardinal]

I attended the game and both teams were obviously hurt by the horrible field, no matter what the outcome would have been I wish they would have played on a clear day.

The beat us FAIR AND SQUARE. Every time it felt like our running backs were going to bust off big runs .. they slipped! Harlingen was good and smart enough to capitalize early in the first quarter and that right there set the tone for the game. Aside from the first two minutes of the game, both teams struggled on offense. I'm very confident SW could have played way better and I'm sure Harlingen feels the same way. SW managed to make a little comeback in the fourth but was picked off and that right there sealed the game for the cards. Whenever our offense had the ball it felt like weren't gonna score, as if we were playing against the cardinals + the field. Of course they were playing on the same field, so thats no excuse. It's just they took advantage of our turnovers. The game seemed to me as if it were a "Who could beat the weather?" matchup.

Congratulations to both teams for playing hard and having great seasons. The Harlingen Cardinals have won my respect with their toughness.

Great post!

[SV61]

Good game Cards!

Proved me wrong. I had SW winning this one.

Congrats!

[Cardinal]

First Half:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ6KZ8kN7FI&NR=1


Second Half:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBXBI1ldNfM