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dragonsdaddy
02-03-2006, 07:02 PM
how many games in a row did ahs win back in the day? seems like 48 or so comes to mind. it is just a little presumptuous to look that far ahead, but it is the off-season. and at what win total does the kt win streak that was lost due to rule violations run? wasn't it 32 or 33?

jtk1519
02-03-2006, 07:29 PM
how many games in a row did ahs win back in the day? seems like 48 or so comes to mind. it is just a little presumptuous to look that far ahead, but it is the off-season. and at what win total does the kt win streak that was lost due to rule violations run? wasn't it 32 or 33?

It was 48. That streak came to an end in the state title game in '57 when Highland Park won on penetrations after the game ended tied at 20.

abilenefan
02-03-2006, 07:46 PM
It was 48. That streak came to an end in the state title game in '57 when Highland Park won on penetrations after the game ended tied at 20.

It was actually 49 games. It began with the 4th game of the 1954 season and ended in teh semifinals game with Highland Park in 1957.

abilenefan
02-03-2006, 07:53 PM
Just looked up some stats from those years. Over that the five seasons from 1953 to 1957 the Eagles scored 2158 points and allowed 415.

Pretty amazing even if it did happen 50 years ago.

drgnbkr
02-03-2006, 10:51 PM
So, they were 49-1..did they make it to 63-1?

dragons08
02-03-2006, 10:56 PM
So, they were 49-1..did they make it to 63-1?
i dont knowm but i do know that some 'little old farming community on the outskirts of Ft. Worth' did:D

Warbird
02-04-2006, 01:37 AM
i dont knowm but i do know that some 'little old farming community on the outskirts of Ft. Worth' did:D
Yeah, but that program never won 3 straight championships, either.:D

jtk1519
02-04-2006, 02:00 AM
So, they were 49-1..did they make it to 63-1?

No. They had two losses in '58.

hoo2ers
02-04-2006, 05:05 AM
i dont knowm but i do know that some 'little old farming community on the outskirts of Ft. Worth' did:D
To call them some "little old farming community" is kinda like calling Titanic a rowboat.

Favpack
02-04-2006, 08:43 AM
The underlying question is -- which feat is more amazing?

I don't know - both are awesome. Let's face it - SLC has not met up with a super power during this incredible streak - some good teams - yes, but no great team such as NS from '03, any of the three Midland Lee teams from '98-00, etc. IMO awesome streaks are sprinkled with good doses of good fortune. SLC has had 3 of the best qb's in the HISTORY of Texas football - in a row - with no downtime between the three at all. Throw in a borderline cakewalk district and the fact the Dragons don't go out of their way to seek out high quality pre-district games - and you have an awesome streak. Easily done? Not hardly - the coaching staff is second to none anywhere - and the coaches are the backbone of the streak.

The old west Texas districts/region in the 1950's-80's was brutal - every game was a dogfight -- but,then again, this was 50 years ago or so - just not as many teams either.

drgnbkr
02-04-2006, 09:29 AM
To call them some "little old farming community" is kinda like calling Titanic a rowboat.

Well, it was when I moved here..sort of..:D

dragons08
02-04-2006, 11:35 AM
To call them some "little old farming community" is kinda like calling Titanic a rowboat.
just took it from drgnbkr's sig

farmerfan
02-04-2006, 12:05 PM
What about a record of 107-4 since mid october of 1998? with a winning streak of 68. That was done my a "small farming community" north of Frisco.

dragonfootballfan
02-04-2006, 12:13 PM
The underlying question is -- which feat is more amazing?

I don't know - both are awesome. Let's face it - SLC has not met up with a super power during this incredible streak - some good teams - yes, but no great team such as NS from '03, any of the three Midland Lee teams from '98-00, etc. IMO awesome streaks are sprinkled with good doses of good fortune. SLC has had 3 of the best qb's in the HISTORY of Texas football - in a row - with no downtime between the three at all. Throw in a borderline cakewalk district and the fact the Dragons don't go out of their way to seek out high quality pre-district games - and you have an awesome streak. Easily done? Not hardly - the coaching staff is second to none anywhere - and the coaches are the backbone of the streak.

The old west Texas districts/region in the 1950's-80's was brutal - every game was a dogfight -- but,then again, this was 50 years ago or so - just not as many teams either.
so what you are saying is that the current dragon run is not that great because they have not faced a team that has had a similair run to theres during that streak. This year Carroll beat four undefeated teams in the playoffs this year. I think that is running into some great teams. Now Carroll has three of the best quarterbacks in the history of Texas high school football, but during award times they are system quarterbacks. Midland Lee 98-00 had arguably the greatest runningback in the history of Texas high school football in Cedric Benson and he was the only reason that they were that great. 2003 North Shore was a great team, but if Carroll had beaten them that year they would have been nothing more than an after thought just like all the other teams that Carroll has beaten during this run. The reason that Carroll has not beaten a team that you call a super power is because once a team reaches a level that can be called super power status and they lose to Carroll they are immediately reduced to being just a good team.

grayowl60
02-04-2006, 01:11 PM
No. They had two losses in '58.
Does anyone know who was the last team to beat Abilene before they stated that run? And who ended the no loss streak. I believe little 3a Brekenridge (The best team money could buy) was involved.

dragonsdaddy
02-04-2006, 01:19 PM
Does anyone know who was the last team to beat Abilene before they stated that run? And who ended the no loss streak. I believe little 3a Brekenridge (The best team money could buy) was involved.
those were some epic battles including several teams whose recruiting escapades brought the uil into the toothed animal it now is. abilene, wf, bridge, basically all the oil towns were buying players right and left. jarrin john kimbrough is still a pariah in his home town of haskell, since he transferred to abilene during his hs years.

grayowl60
02-04-2006, 01:26 PM
those were some epic battles including several teams whose recruiting escapades brought the uil into the toothed animal it now is. abilene, wf, bridge, basically all the oil towns were buying players right and left. jarrin john kimbrough is still a pariah in his home town of haskell, since he transferred to abilene during his hs years.
As I recall, a bunch of those boys from that area went to Oklahoma and helped uncle Bud start a nice streak of his own;)

Warbird
02-04-2006, 02:31 PM
those were some epic battles including several teams whose recruiting escapades brought the uil into the toothed animal it now is. abilene, wf, bridge, basically all the oil towns were buying players right and left. jarrin john kimbrough is still a pariah in his home town of haskell, since he transferred to abilene during his hs years.

Sure, pal. Your proof?

dragonsdaddy
02-04-2006, 02:51 PM
Sure, pal. Your proof?
i met jjk and know lots of haskell people who told me the story. the recruiting is well documented. keep your hackles down. heck all the teams with money did the same thing, and it wasn't the issue it is now.

grayowl60
02-04-2006, 03:37 PM
i met jjk and know lots of haskell people who told me the story. the recruiting is well documented. keep your hackles down. heck all the teams with money did the same thing, and it wasn't the issue it is now.
The DMN wrote about it afew years ago. In those days If you were 14-15 years old and could play football real good, your daddy was guaranteed a job in the oil patch. At least until you graduated.

jtk1519
02-04-2006, 05:06 PM
Does anyone know who was the last team to beat Abilene before they stated that run? And who ended the no loss streak. I believe little 3a Brekenridge (The best team money could buy) was involved.

Abilene High's streak was started after a loss to Breckenridge in '54 and ended in the state title game in '57 against Highland Park. Actually, AHS didn't really lose to HP becuase they ended in a tie (HP won on penetrations). AHS didn't actually lose a game until the second game of the '58 season when they lost to Sweetwater.

grayowl60
02-04-2006, 07:06 PM
Abilene High's streak was started after a loss to Breckenridge in '54 and ended in the state title game in '57 against Highland Park. Actually, AHS didn't really lose to HP becuase they ended in a tie (HP won on penetrations). AHS didn't actually lose a game until the second game of the '58 season when they lost to Sweetwater.
Garland lost to that Brekenridge team in the 3a playoffs in 54. They say it was maybe the best team Garland has ever had to this day. The Owls were actually ahead at the half.:)

jtk1519
02-04-2006, 09:50 PM
Garland lost to that Brekenridge team in the 3a playoffs in 54. They say it was maybe the best team Garland has ever had to this day. The Owls were actually ahead at the half.:)

A lot of people forget what a powerhouse Breckenridge was back then. In fact, for pretty much the first half of the 20th century, the world of high school football was pretty well dominated by Abilene High, Amarillo, Breckenridge and Highland Park.

Warbird
02-05-2006, 01:33 AM
A lot of people forget what a powerhouse Breckenridge was back then. In fact, for pretty much the first half of the 20th century, the world of high school football was pretty well dominated by Abilene High, Amarillo, Breckenridge and Highland Park.

Waco was in there in the early part of the century.