View Full Version : 16-5A vs 15-5A
Beanz
11-07-2009, 11:58 PM
D-1: Stony Point vs Cy Falls
D-1: Westwood vs Cy Woods
D-2: Cedar Park vs Cy Ridge
D-2: Leander vs Cy Creek
im already bias for 16-5A, but what are your thoughts? points do not matter, just who gets the w.
cfisdbacker
11-08-2009, 12:23 AM
D-1: Stony Point vs Cy Falls
D-1: Westwood vs Cy Woods
D-2: Cedar Park vs Cy Ridge
D-2: Leander vs Cy Creek
im already bias for 16-5A, but what are your thoughts? points do not matter, just who gets the w.
Final 15-5a Standings ....
1 - Creek D2
2 - Ridge D2
3 - Woods D1
4 - Falls D1
What happens next week?
cyfallsbooster2
11-08-2009, 10:19 AM
These are going to be some very interesting matchups this week. They were all good games last year with 155A coming out of it 3-1. From the sounds of it, 155A shouldn't be expecting the same this year. A young Stony Point team from last year is back with experience and size and had been ranked #1 in the state by this website for most of the year. They only dropped from there because a very good Cedar Park team pulled an "upset" in week 9. 165A looks to be a very solid district this year.
And for the poll purposes, most of us can't vote against our district brothers.;)
wildcat86
11-08-2009, 11:40 AM
As a STP fan I wish all the teams from 16-5A & 15-5A good luck next weekend but I think this year we'll split. I like the STP and Cedar Park to win @ home and I think Cy-Wood and Cy-Creek will win @ home as well. Just my opinion which ain't worth a hill of beans. From the words of legendary boxing referee Mills Lane, " Let's get in on!"
LeanderLions3033
11-08-2009, 11:50 AM
So it looks like we've drawn the best team out of 15-5a. What are the strengths and weaknesses of Cy Creek? Are they a spread team, or do they run another type of offense? Do they have a balanced offense or do they run more than they pass, or vis versa even.
What I can tell you about Leander is we have solid skill position players and a very solid defensive line (although its hard for anybody to claim they have a good Dline after they just played Cedar Parks Oline). We have a sophomore rb in Ricky Harper (who apparently has a cousin that starts on Cy Creek) who has emerged as a serious homerun threat in the running game for us. We usually have a balanced offense with most of our passing coming off of play action.
CAKEETO
11-08-2009, 12:03 PM
So it looks like we've drawn the best team out of 15-5a. What are the strengths and weaknesses of Cy Creek? Are they a spread team, or do they run another type of offense? Do they have a balanced offense or do they run more than they pass, or vis versa even.
What I can tell you about Leander is we have solid skill position players and a very solid defensive line (although its hard for anybody to claim they have a good Dline after they just played Cedar Parks Oline). We have a sophomore rb in Ricky Harper (who apparently has a cousin that starts on Cy Creek) who has emerged as a serious homerun threat in the running game for us. We usually have a balanced offense with most of our passing coming off of play action.
CyCreek runs the wishbone & and has a HUGE fullback and tightend;)... We 15-5A fans are like Sargeant Schultze.... LOL:D
cyfallsbooster2
11-08-2009, 12:21 PM
So it looks like we've drawn the best team out of 15-5a. What are the strengths and weaknesses of Cy Creek? Are they a spread team, or do they run another type of offense? Do they have a balanced offense or do they run more than they pass, or vis versa even.
What I can tell you about Leander is we have solid skill position players and a very solid defensive line (although its hard for anybody to claim they have a good Dline after they just played Cedar Parks Oline). We have a sophomore rb in Ricky Harper (who apparently has a cousin that starts on Cy Creek) who has emerged as a serious homerun threat in the running game for us. We usually have a balanced offense with most of our passing coming off of play action.
Some of the Creek fans will be along to give you more information, but I can throw a few things out for you on them.
Creek has made a very good living off the running game this season with the option. Selders is a fast rb that can get to the corners. Keeton is also a quick and elusive runner at qb. But, he also has the skills for the passing game where the dangerous target is Mitchem who can get seperation, has very solid hands and has the speed to make things happen in space. While their stats show they have mainly been relying on the run, they have the tool set and talent to take advantage in the passing game also. So they will be balanced enough to take what a defense will give them.
Their offensive line has good size and is very solid. They can move some people up front.
Thier defensive front 7 are very solid playing assignment ball. They also have good talent in the secondary.
They are talented enough and well coached enough to pose problems for just about any team out there.
LeanderLions3033
11-08-2009, 01:19 PM
Some of the Creek fans will be along to give you more information, but I can throw a few things out for you on them.
Creek has made a very good living off the running game this season with the option. Selders is a fast rb that can get to the corners. Keeton is also a quick and elusive runner at qb. But, he also has the skills for the passing game where the dangerous target is Mitchem who can get seperation, has very solid hands and has the speed to make things happen in space. While their stats show they have mainly been relying on the run, they have the tool set and talent to take advantage in the passing game also. So they will be balanced enough to take what a defense will give them.
Their offensive line has good size and is very solid. They can move some people up front.
Thier defensive front 7 are very solid playing assignment ball. They also have good talent in the secondary.
They are talented enough and well coached enough to pose problems for just about any team out there.
This scares me a little bit. Over the last decade, the teams that have given us trouble on a consistent basis are teams that have massive Olines. Its one thing to have a good oline, its another thing to have a good oline that has an average weight of 285-290 lbs.
In my opinion, our Dline and our secondary are our two best units on either side of the ball, but Ceder Parks gameplan gave us fits last week cause they ran it down our throat (something that no team had done to us all year), and hit big plays in the passing game because our secondary had to come up closer to the the line for run support. So basically they took the two strengths of our team and completely s:Censor: on them, effectively ruining any chance we had at winning. And from what i've gathered so far, Cy Creek is 15-5a's versions of Cedar Park
CAKEETO
11-08-2009, 03:29 PM
Some of the Creek fans will be along to give you more information, but I can throw a few things out for you on them.
Creek has made a very good living off the running game this season with the option. Selders is a fast rb that can get to the corners. Keeton is also a quick and elusive runner at qb. But, he also has the skills for the passing game where the dangerous target is Mitchem who can get seperation, has very solid hands and has the speed to make things happen in space. While their stats show they have mainly been relying on the run, they have the tool set and talent to take advantage in the passing game also. So they will be balanced enough to take what a defense will give them.
Their offensive line has good size and is very solid. They can move some people up front.
Thier defensive front 7 are very solid playing assignment ball. They also have good talent in the secondary.
They are talented enough and well coached enough to pose problems for just about any team out there.
:confused::confused::confused::confused: How about just commenting on Falls. There is plenty of dtat about every team on the web. Please don't spoon feed Leander info about our team.:eek:
Point Made...
11-08-2009, 03:50 PM
[QUOTE=CAKEETO;1368642 How about just commenting on Falls. There is plenty of dtat about every team on the web. Please don't spoon feed Leander info about our team.[/QUOTE]
Dude,
Calm down, it's not like there's not enough scouting, and film, going around to pick up on all the strategies that will be used...:rolleyes:
1 poster is not a threat to the outcome of the game...:D
LeanderLions3033
11-08-2009, 03:55 PM
:confused::confused::confused::confused: How about just commenting on Falls. There is plenty of dtat about every team on the web. Please don't spoon feed Leander info about our team.:eek:
Yeah are you kidding me lol. No coach or player is gonna get on a message board to get a random fans opinion about a team. Nobody.....
They have game film on us from all year im sure, and our coaches have they're game film from all year. I think thats spoon feeding enough.
twolf5
11-08-2009, 04:16 PM
This scares me a little bit. Over the last decade, the teams that have given us trouble on a consistent basis are teams that have massive Olines. Its one thing to have a good oline, its another thing to have a good oline that has an average weight of 285-290 lbs.
In my opinion, our Dline and our secondary are our two best units on either side of the ball, but Ceder Parks gameplan gave us fits last week cause they ran it down our throat (something that no team had done to us all year), and hit big plays in the passing game because our secondary had to come up closer to the the line for run support. So basically they took the two strengths of our team and completely s:Censor: on them, effectively ruining any chance we had at winning. And from what i've gathered so far, Cy Creek is 15-5a's versions of Cedar Park
Actually they are not. Everyone in their district runs a spread (rarely using a TE) so they are really a bigger version of Leander. I believe leanders d line will keep them in this game. I think Leander has what it takes to win. Our weak spot last year was we couldn't get a pass rush at all. I think Leander will.
STPFootball2011
11-08-2009, 04:24 PM
Actually they are not. Everyone in their district runs a spread (rarely using a TE) so they are really a bigger version of Leander. I believe leanders d line will keep them in this game. I think Leander has what it takes to win. Our weak spot last year was we couldn't get a pass rush at all. I think Leander will.
any word on when and where you guys are playing yet?
Beanz
11-08-2009, 04:26 PM
It appears to me that the Cy Creek/Leander game is the most interesting game this round. not dogging any other teams in 16 and 15, but i think most people ASSUME cedar park, sp, and cy woods will win their match ups (not guaranteed of course, just assuming). so let's look at this cy creek/leander game.
how is cy creek's defense? because that pesky harper kid from leander is shifty... and FAST! he was probably the only reason leander scored twice in the CP/LHS game (no offense to leander because you guys are solid, it just seemed that cp controlled every aspect except for Harper).
as far as offense goes, i can easily say Leander can hold their own. I have not seen Leander's defense outside of the cp game (and that is a bad match up because they had to go against cp's o line and that is not an easy task). im not sure who has the upper hand in this one, to be honest.
i mean, i said i am bias for 16-5A, but im also trying to be realistic. cy creek has been running their district this season, but leander was actually closer to the top than their "3rd Spot" implies.
so i guess this will come down to who gets the stop and then scores one the ensuing drive.
cyfallsbooster2
11-08-2009, 05:26 PM
How about just commenting on Falls. There is plenty of dtat about every team on the web. Please don't spoon feed Leander info about our team.:eek:
And what, you think the Leander coaches are going to come here to get thier game plan together? Off of MY information?:laugh
Creek is a solid team. It is difficult to hide that from the coaches.
The 165 schools are going to be difficult for our district. They actually play defense over there. Look at last year's results. We may have won 3 of 4 of the wars, but the offensive stats and scoring were below what our teams produced during district play. From the sounds of it, they are going to be even better this year. It could very well be the ONLY test our teams face in these playoffs. Since none of us went undefeated, we have shown ourselves to be vunerable. This is not going to be easy for any of our teams.
rrspfanintx
11-08-2009, 05:28 PM
i think they will split the games at 2-2.RRSP and Cedar Park will win from 16-5A IMHO.
cyfallsbooster2
11-08-2009, 05:34 PM
Yeah are you kidding me lol. No coach or player is gonna get on a message board to get a random fans opinion about a team. Nobody.....
They have game film on us from all year im sure, and our coaches have they're game film from all year. I think thats spoon feeding enough.
Actually, I think it is only 3 games worth. I may be wrong about that though. And I am not sure if it is the last 3 games or 3 games of the coach's choice.
twolf5
11-08-2009, 05:44 PM
any word on when and where you guys are playing yet?
730 Friday night at Bible. Gotta love it! Come on out!
lionsfb11
11-08-2009, 05:57 PM
in order for our Lions to win I think we need a little more balance on offense especially the passing game to keep the defense for crowding the line. I think our defense is good enough to hold a running attack, it is the passing I am worried about.
I think Cedar Park will need to throw the ball a little more to be successful
STPFootball2011
11-08-2009, 06:21 PM
730 Friday night at Bible. Gotta love it! Come on out!
i would but there's a little game at the Palace i gotta be at that night;)
Beanz
11-08-2009, 07:13 PM
i would but there's a little game at the Palace i gotta be at that night;)
what! i thought sp was playing saturday??? dang it. i guess i cant make both
- sTp -
11-08-2009, 07:19 PM
what! i thought sp was playing saturday??? dang it. i guess i cant make both
It's all good.. There will be a bunch of us over at the palace rootin' for you guys.
Good luck Leander and Westwood as well!!
LeanderLions3033
11-08-2009, 07:22 PM
Cedar Park did a nice job of shutting down our wr/rb Jon Henderson. Hes gotta have a big (or at least play to his average on the year) for Leander to have success IMO. Anytime hes on the field, he's usually the fastest player out there.
Also, and i didn't think this would be something that i would have to bring up since all year he played outstanding, but our qbs Chase Keltgen and Collin Chapman are gonna have to do a better job of protecting the ball. You could tell Keltgen was telegraphing his passes all night, and Chapman seemed like he was being a little careless with the ball. I expect them to play well though. They've played well all year, and got a bit of a wakeup call against Cedar Park but i think they'll be fine. I know Gideon was in their ears all week too so that can only help ;).
And Beanz,
I always point this out to people and i almost think its funny now. Leander was the 1st team in the district to start using the spread offense and had instant success. Now every team has made the switch. I think it would be interesting to see a team go back to a traditional I-formation team, or even a wishbone team, because i think the defensive coordinators in this district are starting to get used to scheming against the spread.
SPTigerfan
11-08-2009, 07:24 PM
It's all good.. There will be a bunch of us over at the palace rootin' for you guys.
Good luck Leander and Westwood as well!!
I want to wish all the 16 5A play off teams the best of luck!!! Let's sweep CY under the rug and ROLL ON!!! Stay healthy and for those traveling, a safe return home!!!
I BLEED BLUE AND GOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beanz
11-08-2009, 07:32 PM
Cedar Park did a nice job of shutting down our wr/rb Jon Henderson. Hes gotta have a big (or at least play to his average on the year) for Leander to have success IMO. Anytime hes on the field, he's usually the fastest player out there.
Also, and i didn't think this would be something that i would have to bring up since all year he played outstanding, but our qbs Chase Keltgen and Collin Chapman are gonna have to do a better job of protecting the ball. You could tell Keltgen was telegraphing his passes all night, and Chapman seemed like he was being a little careless with the ball. I expect them to play well though. They've played well all year, and got a bit of a wakeup call against Cedar Park but i think they'll be fine. I know Gideon was in their ears all week too so that can only help ;).
And Beanz,
I always point this out to people and i almost think its funny now. Leander was the 1st team in the district to start using the spread offense and had instant success. Now every team has made the switch. I think it would be interesting to see a team go back to a traditional I-formation team, or even a wishbone team, because i think the defensive coordinators in this district are starting to get used to scheming against the spread.
i definitely think sp needs an i-form approach for sure. they have too many options to pass up what the i-form offers.
i mean, you could have sam kelley run a hb pitch to the weak side of an i-form twin wr and it's over. he could follow his blockers and sprint untouched like he normally does... this way is just easier.
not to mention, the receiving packages in the i-form are unreal. especially if you have a qb that can scramble when the secondary is in man coverage.
now that you mention it, WHY DOESN'T SP USE THE I-FORM?!
STPFootball2011
11-08-2009, 07:45 PM
i definitely think sp needs an i-form approach for sure. they have too many options to pass up what the i-form offers.
i mean, you could have sam kelley run a hb pitch to the weak side of an i-form twin wr and it's over. he could follow his blockers and sprint untouched like he normally does... this way is just easier.
not to mention, the receiving packages in the i-form are unreal. especially if you have a qb that can scramble when the secondary is in man coverage.
now that you mention it, WHY DOESN'T SP USE THE I-FORM?!
have you seen our o-line? not really built for blocking out of the I. there alot better in space then doubling a bunch of d-lineman all night. also i dont know if we have a true fullback we could put in the backfield. if anyone could run I cedar park could with the massive o-line they have.
cfisdbacker
11-08-2009, 07:45 PM
What I can tell you about Leander is we have solid skill position players and a very solid defensive line (although its hard for anybody to claim they have a good Dline after they just played Cedar Parks Oline). We have a sophomore rb in Ricky Harper (who apparently has a cousin that starts on Cy Creek) who has emerged as a serious homerun threat in the running game for us. We usually have a balanced offense with most of our passing coming off of play action.[/QUOTE]
If Ricky Harper is related he must be a pretty good player. His cousin has played great this year for Creek on defense, but if he runs anything like his other cousin DJ Harper - he will be fun to watch. DJ tore up Houston area defenses for 3 years for Cy-Creek before getting a full ride at Boise State where he has played the last 3 years. He was leading Boise State in rushing before his season ending knee surgery.
Sounds like Leander has some tremendous athletes - Creek has their work cut out for them this week.
BTW - you will enjoy the Berry Center! Safe travels to Houston.
lionsfb11
11-08-2009, 07:56 PM
<P>Cedar Park did a nice job of shutting down our wr/rb Jon Henderson. Hes gotta have a big (or at least play to his average on the year) for Leander to have success IMO. Anytime hes on the field, he's usually the fastest player out there. </P>
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<P>Also, and i didn't think this would be something that i would have to bring up since all year he played outstanding, but our qbs Chase Keltgen and Collin Chapman are gonna have to do a better job of protecting the ball. You could tell Keltgen was telegraphing his passes all night, and Chapman seemed like he was being a little careless with the ball. I expect them to play well though. They've played well all year, and got a bit of a wakeup call against Cedar Park but i think they'll be fine. I know Gideon was in their ears all week too so that can only help <IMG class=inlineimg title=Wink border=0 alt="" src="images/smilies/wink.gif" smilieid="4">.</P>
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<P>And Beanz, </P>
<P>I always point this out to people and i almost think its funny now. Leander was the 1st team in the district to start using the spread offense and had instant success. Now every team has made the switch. I think it would be interesting to see a team go back to a traditional I-formation team, or even a wishbone team, because i think the defensive coordinators in this district are starting to get used to scheming against the spread.</P>
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<P>I agree that our QB's are going to have to be better, i don't think protection of the ball is the issue, it is eyeballing one receiver and then throwing it there. It is something I wished the quarterbacks were taught better, on how to look off one and throw to another. I think if we had a short passing game like what Texas Tech runs, we would be awesome especially as sood as we run the ball</P>
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LeanderLions3033
11-08-2009, 08:17 PM
BTW - you will enjoy the Berry Center! Safe travels to Houston.
Unfortunately I wont be able to make it to this game because I have to work, but ive heard great things about this stadium. In fact, i heard it was quite possibly the best high school venue in the state of Texas, so its unfortunate that i cant go because i could just stay with my friend that lives in the Cypress area.
Also, whoever you were talking about is his cousin. Id always heard Ricky Harper was related to DJ Harper of Bosie St, so im sure we are thinking about the same person. I wonder how often something like this works out, where somebody can say they made a solo tackle on their 1st cousin that lives over 200 miles away.
Beanz
11-08-2009, 11:24 PM
you realize whoever wins this round will have to play klein collins... and then John Tyler... AND THEN CEDAR PARK!!! (oh yeah)
PCW Cats
11-09-2009, 05:37 AM
I think Cy Falls will give Stony Point a challenge. Falls is a young team that really struggled early on, but they are playing really well right now. They outplayed Cy Woods and earned their way in. I also am afraid of Westwood as a Cy Woods fan. They also were playing well down the stretch. Those types of teams are dangerous.
cfisdbacker
11-09-2009, 08:37 AM
I think Cy Falls will give Stony Point a challenge. Falls is a young team that really struggled early on, but they are playing really well right now. They outplayed Cy Woods and earned their way in. I also am afraid of Westwood as a Cy Woods fan. They also were playing well down the stretch. Those types of teams are dangerous.
Agreed - Falls will come to play and play hard.
cfisdbacker
11-09-2009, 08:39 AM
I think Cy Falls will give Stony Point a challenge. Falls is a young team that really struggled early on, but they are playing really well right now. They outplayed Cy Woods and earned their way in. I also am afraid of Westwood as a Cy Woods fan. They also were playing well down the stretch. Those types of teams are dangerous.
Disagreed - Woods lost a game in the closing seconds to a highly focused and athletic team last week. Sometimes a loss is good for a team. Not sure this game will be close.
twolf5
11-09-2009, 08:51 AM
Disagreed - Woods lost a game in the closing seconds to a highly focused and athletic team last week. Sometimes a loss is good for a team. Not sure this game will be close.
I think of all 4 games this one has the potential of being the least competitive. Westwood beating Cedar Park tells you not to take them lightly. But that's one of those weird things that happens almost every year. For some reason they are up for our game and we aren't. I'm not sure how competitive WW will be, but I know they'll play their hearts out like they did against us.
cyfallsbooster2
11-09-2009, 08:55 AM
[B]
Agreed - Falls will come to play and play hard.
They run a chance of coming out flat after that highly emotional game and win last week. It will be up to the coaches to help the team focus this week. SP is loaded with talent that is well coached. They are averaging something like 8 PAPG and 30 PPG. That is a stout defense. And they have been doing that against spread offenses. I am sure the boys will make us proud no matter what the outcome is.
StonyPoint
11-09-2009, 11:15 AM
As a Stony Point fan I can't help but wonder who I should watch from falls? Who are falls big playmakers?
SP has alot of talent but I will give you my opinion of who you should watch.
on D:
#91-Jordan Wade-DL
#2-Kevin White-CB(I think he is the best/disciplined/consistant player for SP)
#14-Desmond Martin-DB
#40-PL lindley-LB
(those guys are the college recruits, but honestly the entire defense does great. Watching them as a whole is fun for me.)
on O:
#5-Gerard Shillow-WR/TE
#17-Aaryn Sharp-QB(if he is healthy)
(the offense has alot of skill players they switch in and out the entire game so your focus will most likely not be on specific players. Get a program if you can. Lastly, I guess, just know that almost anyone who gets the ball for SP will be fast enough for a homerun, not necessarily homerun hitters, but they will be capable.)
I did exclude alot of people on my "to watch" list
twolf5
11-09-2009, 11:32 AM
As a Stony Point fan I can't help but wonder who I should watch from falls? Who are falls big playmakers?
SP has alot of talent but I will give you my opinion of who you should watch.
on D:
#91-Jordan Wade-DL
#2-Kevin White-CB(I think he is the best/disciplined/consistant player for SP)
#14-Desmond Martin-DB
#40-PL lindley-LB
(those guys are the college recruits, but honestly the entire defense does great. Watching them as a whole is fun for me.)
on O:
#5-Gerard Shillow-WR/TE
#17-Aaryn Sharp-QB(if he is healthy)
(the offense has alot of skill players they switch in and out the entire game so your focus will most likely not be on specific players. Get a program if you can. Lastly, I guess, just know that almost anyone who gets the ball for SP will be fast enough for a homerun, not necessarily homerun hitters, but they will be capable.)
I did exclude alot of people on my "to watch" list
I'll say that's an understatement. :notworthy
LION57
11-09-2009, 11:33 AM
This scares me a little bit. Over the last decade, the teams that have given us trouble on a consistent basis are teams that have massive Olines. Its one thing to have a good oline, its another thing to have a good oline that has an average weight of 285-290 lbs.
In my opinion, our Dline and our secondary are our two best units on either side of the ball, but Ceder Parks gameplan gave us fits last week cause they ran it down our throat (something that no team had done to us all year), and hit big plays in the passing game because our secondary had to come up closer to the the line for run support. So basically they took the two strengths of our team and completely s:Censor: on them, effectively ruining any chance we had at winning. And from what i've gathered so far, Cy Creek is 15-5a's versions of Cedar Park
I agree that CP put it on us but our defense never had a chance when you have 5 turnovers 3 pics and two fumbles you have no chance to win a game. With a line the size of CPs with that many chances you will get beat every time to big and strong. A couple of those passed Henderson was wide open but threw to another reciever. They were just awful throws and believe me I am correct I have seen the film. We will be fine if we cut out the turnovers not saying we will just win it but that is how every game goes hold on to the football and you usually win.
Beanz
11-09-2009, 11:40 AM
As a Stony Point fan I can't help but wonder who I should watch from falls? Who are falls big playmakers?
SP has alot of talent but I will give you my opinion of who you should watch.
on D:
#91-Jordan Wade-DL
#2-Kevin White-CB(I think he is the best/disciplined/consistant player for SP)
#14-Desmond Martin-DB
#40-PL lindley-LB
(those guys are the college recruits, but honestly the entire defense does great. Watching them as a whole is fun for me.)
on O:
#5-Gerard Shillow-WR/TE
#17-Aaryn Sharp-QB(if he is healthy)
(the offense has alot of skill players they switch in and out the entire game so your focus will most likely not be on specific players. Get a program if you can. Lastly, I guess, just know that almost anyone who gets the ball for SP will be fast enough for a homerun, not necessarily homerun hitters, but they will be capable.)
I did exclude alot of people on my "to watch" list
uh yeah bro. sorry falls, he excluded two major threats on offense. so don't be surprised if you hear these names:
RB #11 Sam Kelly (practically a "where did that guy come from?!" sort of deal. He just popped up from nowhere and exploded this season. truly a beast.)
ATH #7 Stephen Williams (he has not done much this season, but this kid showed everyone up his freshman and sophomore years on varsity! seriously if you give him an inch, he will take his mile... and don't let him get into your secondary on a receiving route... that is practically an immediate 6.)
also Gus Berrera is quite handy when it comes to the qb sneak. so overall, watch out for those guys too. :D
C-DUB
11-09-2009, 03:37 PM
I think Cy Falls will give Stony Point a challenge. Falls is a young team that really struggled early on, but they are playing really well right now. They outplayed Cy Woods and earned their way in. I also am afraid of Westwood as a Cy Woods fan. They also were playing well down the stretch. Those types of teams are dangerous.
Yes, Woods is the weak sisters of the poor from 15-5.
Should be an easy game for Westwood.
StillBlazin
11-09-2009, 03:40 PM
Lets clarify what "Spread" offenses are. Most people (not the experts here) refer to the Spread as not having a TE in the game (thus, spreading the field from sideline to sideline.)
A team can be in the Gun or under center to be "Spread."
STP is a multiple formation team, as is CP. They both use a ton of inside/outside zone option reads. The QB's pull/keep read is different on different plays. Sometimes, there is a 3rd option to pitch off of after the pull. (People used to call it the TRIPLE option when Nebraska did it under center.)
GTown, Westwood are the only teams that are true spread and even they use a TE every now and again. Leander, TE, McNeil, TE, sometimes double Tight.
Leander is a counter, inside/outside zone read team.
As for 16-5A. Pretty much every team looks EXACTLY the same on offense, save for the uniforms and athletes at different positions.
They are true spread teams and I dont think a one of them EVER uses a TE....EVER.
As for whether or not being the I formation makes a differnce....its doesn't really. Two back gun can have the same effect with the added additon of a QB read off the backside of most hand off plays. Some would call this an option, others....a read.
Any hoo....just my little 2cents worth.
BTW, the reason most people in HS are in the gun is so they have the option of NOT blocking a defender and reading him instead. Thus, forcing the defense to play with 10, not 11.
But what do I know.
Beanz
11-09-2009, 03:42 PM
Yes, Woods is the weak sisters of the poor from 15-5.
Should be an easy game for Westwood.
i don't know. westwood is really one dimensional. if you stop collins, you stop westwood.
C-DUB
11-09-2009, 04:00 PM
i don't know. westwood is really one dimensional. if you stop collins, you stop westwood.
I have heard he's similiar to our Cy-Creek Selders but not as fast.
Beanz
11-09-2009, 04:09 PM
Lets clarify what "Spread" offenses are. Most people (not the experts here) refer to the Spread as not having a TE in the game (thus, spreading the field from sideline to sideline.)
A team can be in the Gun or under center to be "Spread."
STP is a multiple formation team, as is CP. They both use a ton of inside/outside zone option reads. The QB's pull/keep read is different on different plays. Sometimes, there is a 3rd option to pitch off of after the pull. (People used to call it the TRIPLE option when Nebraska did it under center.)
GTown, Westwood are the only teams that are true spread and even they use a TE every now and again. Leander, TE, McNeil, TE, sometimes double Tight.
Leander is a counter, inside/outside zone read team.
As for 16-5A. Pretty much every team looks EXACTLY the same on offense, save for the uniforms and athletes at different positions.
They are true spread teams and I dont think a one of them EVER uses a TE....EVER.
As for whether or not being the I formation makes a differnce....its doesn't really. Two back gun can have the same effect with the added additon of a QB read off the backside of most hand off plays. Some would call this an option, others....a read.
Any hoo....just my little 2cents worth.
BTW, the reason most people in HS are in the gun is so they have the option of NOT blocking a defender and reading him instead. Thus, forcing the defense to play with 10, not 11.
But what do I know.
i disagree. with a split back shotgun you do not have the protection needed to successfully run through the line, much less to the outside. even with a QB draw, how will you suffice against a blitz, or even man coverage, when your rbs are next to you instead of inline with you?
the split back shotgun is mainly used for passing, when a defense is running an lb blitz then you can swing pass to either rb for a quick screen set up using the TE and a WR to block the safety and a CB. hopefully you throw to the rb corresponding to the side with the TE, leaving the OLB completely useless, because if you throw to the weak side rb then the safety will clean you if the OLB doesn't. aside from that, you can easily do button hooks and various routes with your TE, RBs, and WRs... or the qb can scramble if he needs to... but not many ground options though.
the i form is better, you can successfully run the ball however you choose because you have sufficient blocking. then, when it comes to passing, you have a swing pass to either your rb or fb and easy blocking from your TE and WR... especially if you use an I Form Twin WR... of course if you only want to use your two wrs and a te for the receiving ends and use your rb and fb for blocking or misdirection, then you can run a slant pattern also.
as for not blocking the defenders and letting them by, that is usually only for screens and shuffle passes. other than that you are looking for a hook from a TE or an inside route from a WR. either way, you are trying to clear the LBs from stopping the quick catch and go... but you will still have to deal with the safeties.
C-DUB
11-09-2009, 04:10 PM
Lets clarify what "Spread" offenses are. Most people (not the experts here) refer to the Spread as not having a TE in the game (thus, spreading the field from sideline to sideline.)
A team can be in the Gun or under center to be "Spread."
STP is a multiple formation team, as is CP. They both use a ton of inside/outside zone option reads. The QB's pull/keep read is different on different plays. Sometimes, there is a 3rd option to pitch off of after the pull. (People used to call it the TRIPLE option when Nebraska did it under center.)
GTown, Westwood are the only teams that are true spread and even they use a TE every now and again. Leander, TE, McNeil, TE, sometimes double Tight.
Leander is a counter, inside/outside zone read team.
As for 16-5A. Pretty much every team looks EXACTLY the same on offense, save for the uniforms and athletes at different positions.
They are true spread teams and I dont think a one of them EVER uses a TE....EVER.
As for whether or not being the I formation makes a differnce....its doesn't really. Two back gun can have the same effect with the added additon of a QB read off the backside of most hand off plays. Some would call this an option, others....a read.
Any hoo....just my little 2cents worth.
BTW, the reason most people in HS are in the gun is so they have the option of NOT blocking a defender and reading him instead. Thus, forcing the defense to play with 10, not 11.
But what do I know.
Yep, we played G-Town last year. We have alot of respect for G-TOWN.
I know they had a rough time this year.:)
twolf5
11-09-2009, 04:14 PM
I have heard he's similiar to our Cy-Creek Selders but not as fast.
He's currently a more complete back that Selders, but not quite as fast in the open field.
Beanz
11-09-2009, 04:20 PM
I have heard he's similiar to our Cy-Creek Selders but not as fast.
haha. no, he is definitely not as fast as selders. but he is much bigger than selders is. his speed is sufficient for what he can do with his size. he is somewhat the middle ground of Adrian Smith (our district's huge runningback) and Selders (your district's speed back). he is a weapon if you cannot stop a wildcat formation, but he is beatable if your LBs are in zone coverage.
my suggestion is not to blitz, but to wait for westwood to make the first move. otherwise westwood can catch you off guard with their wildcat formation
cfisdbacker
11-09-2009, 04:30 PM
He's currently a more complete back that Selders, but not quite as fast in the open field.
Wow ..... he must be pretty good. Is he a senior?
CAKEETO
11-09-2009, 04:38 PM
He's currently a more complete back that Selders, but not quite as fast in the open field.
Interesting observation. Not being argumentative, but what makes him more of a complete RB than Selders?
Beanz
11-09-2009, 04:43 PM
Interesting observation. Not being argumentative, but what makes him more of a complete RB than Selders?
selders does not have the size to match up against a strong defense. he will grow more but as of now he is just speed and moves... which is definitely fine.
collins has size and adequate speed. he can break tackles and has cut back moves to keep defenses on their toes. he won't win any races, but neither would adrian smith and i think he is up for our district mvp. overall, collins has more experience and selders will get there eventually.
C-DUB
11-09-2009, 04:46 PM
selders does not have the size to match up against a strong defense. he will grow more but as of now he is just speed and moves... which is definitely fine.
collins has size and adequate speed. he can break tackles and has cut back moves to keep defenses on their toes. he won't win any races, but neither would adrian smith and i think he is up for our district mvp. overall, collins has more experience and selders will get there eventually.
Wow, it sounds like we are in for a long night.:ninja:
Beanz
11-09-2009, 04:49 PM
Wow, it sounds like we are in for a long night.:ninja:
i did not say that collins will always break tackles i said he CAN break tackles. does anyone play defense in 15-5A? who has the best points against average over there?
cyfallsbooster2
11-09-2009, 04:52 PM
i did not say that collins will always break tackles i said he CAN break tackles. does anyone play defense in 15-5A? who has the best points against average over there?
I think that may be Creek. But Fair had a pretty good number also.:ninja:
cyfallsbooster2
11-09-2009, 04:53 PM
i did not say that collins will always break tackles i said he CAN break tackles. does anyone play defense in 15-5A? who has the best points against average over there?
No. We skip that part of the game because it is so boring.
LION57
11-09-2009, 04:53 PM
i did not say that collins will always break tackles i said he CAN break tackles. does anyone play defense in 15-5A? who has the best points against average over there?
PAPG
Cy Creek-21.8
Cy Woods-23.8
Cy Ridge-26.9
Cy Falls-39.5:D-playing STP scary
cyfallsbooster2
11-09-2009, 04:56 PM
PAPG
Cy Creek-21.8
Cy Woods-23.8
Cy Ridge-26.9
Cy Falls-39.5:D-playing STP scary
For us fans.......yep!;)
twolf5
11-09-2009, 05:04 PM
Interesting observation. Not being argumentative, but what makes him more of a complete RB than Selders?
He's bigger, he blocks well, catches well out of the backfield, has great vision, picks holes well. He's a talented and very athletic three year starter. Lots of this come with experience. It's not putting down Selders. I wish we had him. He's a stud!
CAKEETO
11-09-2009, 05:13 PM
He's bigger, he blocks well, catches well out of the backfield, has great vision, picks holes well. He's a talented and very athletic three year starter. Lots of this come with experience. It's not putting down Selders. I wish we had him. He's a stud!
Awesome, he sounds like an outstanding player. The 16-5A vs. 15-5A games will be very fun to watch.
I know the STP is a great team, but I would not disccount Falls. Falls has speed, and a solid OL. The kids at Falls are pumped and ready to ball out. Because they have so many young players making significant contributions, they aren't caught up in STP's reputation or ranking. Speed always has an impact, and Falls has lots of speed.
Beanz
11-09-2009, 06:10 PM
PAPG
Cy Creek-21.8
Cy Woods-23.8
Cy Ridge-26.9
Cy Falls-39.5:D-playing STP scary
dang, there is not a sub20 number on there.
lions, what are our playoff teams' PAPG averages (for district only)?
CyFallsMom
11-09-2009, 06:13 PM
:confused::confused::confused::confused: How about just commenting on Falls. There is plenty of dtat about every team on the web. Please don't spoon feed Leander info about our team.:eek:
So the coaches don't talk to other coaches and watch video??? Gee they sure used to. Nothing is a secret at this point.
CyFallsMom
11-09-2009, 06:15 PM
yeah are you kidding me lol. No coach or player is gonna get on a message board to get a random fans opinion about a team. Nobody.....
They have game film on us from all year im sure, and our coaches have they're game film from all year. I think thats spoon feeding enough.
ditto
MHSfootball
11-09-2009, 06:18 PM
I could see 16-5a going 4-0 this week depending on which teams show up.
Beanz
11-09-2009, 06:19 PM
I could see 16-5a going 4-0 this week depending on which teams show up.
i could too.
at first i was thinking at best it will be 3-1 but now i am seeing some light.
westwood might actually have more of a chance than i initially thought.
it seems to me, if leander can show cy creek what a defense looks like, then they will win their game as well.
CyFallsMom
11-09-2009, 06:26 PM
i could too.
at first i was thinking at best it will be 3-1 but now i am seeing some light.
westwood might actually have more of a chance than i initially thought.
it seems to me, if leander can show cy creek what a defense looks like, then they will win their game as well.
I like that way of thinking. Nothing gets 15-5a going better than being tagged the underdog. I'm dead serious about that. They don't take well to dissing or being looked past....trust me, it's a good thing for the Cy's. ;)
Beanz
11-09-2009, 06:29 PM
I like that way of thinking. Nothing gets 15-5a going better than being tagged the underdog. I'm dead serious about that. They don't take well to dissing or being looked past....trust me, it's a good thing for the Cy's. ;)
im careful in my posts to make sure cy teams know i am not dissing them, because i am not dissing them. im just stating my thoughts.
CAKEETO
11-09-2009, 06:34 PM
i could too.
at first i was thinking at best it will be 3-1 but now i am seeing some light.
westwood might actually have more of a chance than i initially thought.
it seems to me, if leander can show cy creek what a defense looks like, then they will win their game as well.
I think that all of the Cy schools should just stay home this weekend. BIG 16-5A is exactly like the SEC, and 15-5A is like the WAC.:rolleyes:
Beanz
11-09-2009, 06:37 PM
I think that all of the Cy schools should just stay home this weekend. BIG 16-5A is exactly like the SEC, and 15-5A is like the WAC.:rolleyes:
im not dogging cy im just looking at the matchups... im really trying to see what each team brings to the table, both offensively and defensively.
cyfallsbooster2
11-09-2009, 06:55 PM
Awesome, he sounds like an outstanding player. The 16-5A vs. 15-5A games will be very fun to watch.
I know the STP is a great team, but I would not disccount Falls. Falls has speed, and a solid OL. The kids at Falls are pumped and ready to ball out. Because they have so many young players making significant contributions, they aren't caught up in STP's reputation or ranking. Speed always has an impact, and Falls has lots of speed.
If you are going to be throwing out semi-smack/challenge material like this the rest of us don't need YOUR bs "support". Go do it on your game thread and leave the rest of the district alone. We will all leave Creek alone.......COMPLETELY.:Censor:
Beanz
11-09-2009, 07:23 PM
If you are going to be throwing out semi-smack/challenge material like this the rest of us don't need YOUR bs "support". Go do it on your game thread and leave the rest of the district alone. We will all leave Creek alone.......COMPLETELY.:Censor:
you're really good at taking compliments... i reread that entire post... there was no smack talk in any sentence.
cyfallsbooster2
11-09-2009, 07:46 PM
I could see 16-5a going 4-0 this week depending on which teams show up.
I thought that was already determined.:confused:
:p
cyfallsbooster2
11-09-2009, 07:55 PM
you're really good at taking compliments... i reread that entire post... there was no smack talk in any sentence.
If you knew the poster's tendency you may come to a different conclusion.:ninja: He was upset that I posted some very vanilla information on his team that could be gleened from THIS site so he comes out with a post like that! Total bs on his part!:Censor:
Tiger Fan
11-09-2009, 08:01 PM
Beanz likes to stir the pot....take his posts with a grain of salt!:D
cyfallsbooster2
11-09-2009, 08:06 PM
Beanz likes to stir the pot....take his posts with a grain of salt!:D
Look at my post count.;) I can spot them from a distance.:D I like to play with them.:ninja:
twolf5
11-09-2009, 08:22 PM
I think that all of the Cy schools should just stay home this weekend. BIG 16-5A is exactly like the SEC, and 15-5A is like the WAC.:rolleyes:
Yes all the poor little Cy schools with their 3,500 kids and deep talented rosters. ;):notworthy
C-DUB
11-09-2009, 08:26 PM
Yes all the poor little Cy schools with their 3,500 kids and deep talented rosters. ;):notworthy
Did we lose 700 kids somewhere?:D
cyfallsbooster2
11-09-2009, 08:27 PM
Yes all the poor little Cy schools with their 3,500 kids and deep talented rosters. ;):notworthy
Don't pay too much attention to him. He is drunk on his team's success over the past 2 years.:rolleyes:
cyfallsbooster2
11-09-2009, 08:29 PM
Did we lose 700 kids somewhere?:D
Yeah. They don't count the football kids.:eek:
C-DUB
11-09-2009, 08:34 PM
Yes all the poor little Cy schools with their 3,500 kids and deep talented rosters. ;):notworthy
Hey, when do we hear about the rain again. That was great.:notworthy
CAKEETO
11-09-2009, 08:43 PM
If you are going to be throwing out semi-smack/challenge material like this the rest of us don't need YOUR bs "support". Go do it on your game thread and leave the rest of the district alone. We will all leave Creek alone.......COMPLETELY.:Censor:
"Can't we all just get along"?
Point Made...
11-09-2009, 08:46 PM
I think that all of the Cy schools should just stay home this weekend. BIG 16-5A is exactly like the SEC, and 15-5A is like the WAC.:rolleyes:
Ok, let's not go overboard...just because one or two posters are being thorns does not make them official representatives for 16-5A.
I'll speak on behalf of SP'ers because our coach has instilled the same thing on his players...and that is...BEING HUMBLE.
cyfallsbooster2
11-09-2009, 08:53 PM
Ok, let's not go overboard...just because one or two posters are being thorns does not make them official representatives for 16-5A.
I'll speak on behalf of SP'ers because our coach has instilled the same thing on his players...and that is...BEING HUMBLE.
Most LONGTIME successful programs are.:notworthy
Enough with the smack talking, lets get right to the predictions! I see these two districts splitting the 4 games this year.
Leander vs Cy Creek: Both teams have good defenses but even better offenses. This will be a high scoring affair and will come down to who has the lead late in the 4th quarter and can make a critical defensive stop (similar to Cedar Park vs Cy Creek last year). Cy Creek by 3 in a nail biter
Westwood vs Cy Woods: The key to beating Westwood is stopping Princeton Collins. Westwood will hang with Woods for the first half but Woods will pull away in the second half. Cy Woods by 14
Cy Ridge vs Cedar Park: As long as Cedar Park comes out and establishes the run early, they should win with ease. If they come out flat and let Ridge hang around, their season could be shorter than expected. Cedar Park by 17
Cy Falls vs Stony Point: Should be pretty one sided. Playing Stony Point is hard enough as it is, but add in the facts of having to sit on a bus for 3 hours and play in front of a rowdy Stony Point crowd. I dont see Falls standing a chance. Stony Point by 35
In other words, home field advantage is crucial in these 1st round games.
I would love to hear some other predictions! :)
cyfallsbooster2
11-09-2009, 09:19 PM
Enough with the smack talking, lets get right to the predictions! I see these two districts splitting the 4 games this year.
Leander vs Cy Creek: Both teams have good defenses but even better offenses. This will be a high scoring affair and will come down to who has the lead late in the 4th quarter and can make a critical defensive stop (similar to Cedar Park vs Cy Creek last year). Cy Creek by 3 in a nail biter
Westwood vs Cy Woods: The key to beating Westwood is stopping Princeton Collins. Westwood will hang with Woods for the first half but Woods will pull away in the second half. Cy Woods by 14
Cy Ridge vs Cedar Park: As long as Cedar Park comes out and establishes the run early, they should win with ease. If they come out flat and let Ridge hang around, their season could be shorter than expected. Cedar Park by 17
Cy Falls vs Stony Point: Should be pretty one sided. Playing Stony Point is hard enough as it is, but add in the facts of having to sit on a bus for 3 hours and play in front of a rowdy Stony Point crowd. I dont see Falls standing a chance. Stony Point by 35
In other words, home field advantage is crucial in these 1st round games.
I would love to hear some other predictions! :)
Here's mine..........
Leander/Creek.......
Westwood/Woods......c-dub pee's his pants before the game starts from the excitement.
Ridge/Cedar Park........It's quite.
Falls/Stony Point.........c-dub and I are tipsy before we get back from Austin.
Bet I am closer than you.:D
Here's mine..........
Leander/Creek.......
Westwood/Woods......c-dub pee's his pants before the game starts from the excitement.
Ridge/Cedar Park........It's quite.
Falls/Stony Point.........c-dub and I are tipsy before we get back from Austin.
Bet I am closer than you.:D
There is no chance Falls will beat Stony and I will take you up on that bet :D
CyCreekDiverMom
11-09-2009, 10:25 PM
i could too.
at first i was thinking at best it will be 3-1 but now i am seeing some light.
westwood might actually have more of a chance than i initially thought.
it seems to me, if leander can show cy creek what a defense looks like, then they will win their game as well.\
Pretty sure that Cy Creek already knows...since they play the best defense in the district and their PA stat is less than 1 pt. different that Leander's.
Maybe you should check the stats.
CyCreekDiverMom
11-09-2009, 10:36 PM
Most LONGTIME successful programs are.:notworthy
Exactly...and who has been around Longer? Remember, we are one of the original Cy Schools!!! LMAO!!!!
Methinks you are being overly sensitive.
CAKEETO
11-09-2009, 10:39 PM
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Pretty sure that Cy Creek already knows...since they play the best defense in the district and their PA stat is less than 1 pt. different that Leander's.
Maybe you should check the stats.
I don't understand Beanz big talk. His mouth is writing a check that his :Censor: will have to cash. I could see if CP was defending state champs, but we sent CP back on 290 last year, and are not even playing CP this year. CP is a great team, but I'm not feeling Beanz at all.:confused::confused:
Beanz
11-10-2009, 12:11 AM
I don't understand Beanz big talk. His mouth is writing a check that his :Censor: will have to cash. I could see if CP was defending state champs, but we sent CP back on 290 last year, and are not even playing CP this year. CP is a great team, but I'm not feeling Beanz at all.:confused::confused:
big talk? bro im studying opponents and stats. not big talk, just prediction. leander has a well set up defense. i never said that cy creek could not beat them, i said cy creek will have a hard time with them compared to other teams cy creek has played. in fact, in another post i said that no one questions cy creek's offense. i just question whether their defense can keep them in the game, simply because leander has a high powered offense as well.
to me, that is a legitimate question.
i said it once and i will say it again, if i was trying to start something then i would have. plain and simple. if it sounds like i am talking big then it might just be the way i write, but i assure you i am not talking big... especially not for leander. they're our rivals.
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 07:17 AM
There is no chance Falls will beat Stony and I will take you up on that bet :D
Where did I say they would?:confused:
Falls is coming into this game with a 5-5 record on the year. They made it into the po's with a herculean effort in the Woods' game. They are a young team in a re-building year that has proven to have its ups and downs. They are improving (vastly from last year) and yes we are excited for them. The few seniors that they do have have been fantastic in leading the younger guys this year. They are playing hard and with passion and are making us fans proud of them. Do we think they will make us proud in this game? Yes. No matter the outcome or score. I think they have proven something to themselves that is a valuable life lesson just by making the po's from where they started at the first of the season. For any of us to come on here thumping our chest saying Falls is "going" to win would be a little silly don't you think? Its a game yet to be played and I believe they stand a chance and I will back them as I have for years in their efforts.
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 07:18 AM
Exactly...and who has been around Longer? Remember, we are one of the original Cy Schools!!! LMAO!!!!
Methinks you are being overly sensitive.
By complimenting Point Made?:confused:
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 08:36 AM
So what's the line on the Westwood/Woods game? I know that Woods is pretty solid in all aspects of the game. Good talent that is very well coached. Good size and very good speed on both sides of the ball. They have a qb that manages the offense very well. What does Westwood bring?
twolf5
11-10-2009, 08:47 AM
So what's the line on the Westwood/Woods game? I know that Woods is pretty solid in all aspects of the game. Good talent that is very well coached. Good size and very good speed on both sides of the ball. They have a qb that manages the offense very well. What does Westwood bring?
Westwood has a D1 running back going to Utah, a very good offensive line that's almost all returning starters from last year, a solid QB. Defensively they are just very solid. I wouldn't call them incredible on the athletic side, but they are fundamentally sound and aggressive.
I'd put the line at Woods by 10, but honestly Westwood is capable of winning this game.
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 09:07 AM
Westwood has a D1 running back going to Utah, a very good offensive line that's almost all returning starters from last year, a solid QB. Defensively they are just very solid. I wouldn't call them incredible on the athletic side, but they are fundamentally sound and aggressive.
I'd put the line at Woods by 10, but honestly Westwood is capable of winning this game.
Woods does have a few talented players but their main key is playing as a team. I think that is what makes them successful. This sounds like it could be a very good game. Wish I could make it but I have a formal business dinner that night and am going to have to miss it. Hope c-dub keeps me posted.:ninja:
Point Made...
11-10-2009, 09:21 AM
Exactly...and who has been around Longer? Remember, we are one of the original Cy Schools!!! LMAO!!!!
Methinks you are being overly sensitive.
Ummmmm....I took that as a compliment...not smack talk. :D
cfisdbacker
11-10-2009, 09:55 AM
Westwood has a D1 running back going to Utah, a very good offensive line that's almost all returning starters from last year, a solid QB. Defensively they are just very solid. I wouldn't call them incredible on the athletic side, but they are fundamentally sound and aggressive.
I'd put the line at Woods by 10, but honestly Westwood is capable of winning this game.
One of Creeks 2 D1 offensive tackles is going to Utah (other to Stanford) will be blocking for him someday!!!
It playoffs and anything can happen but ........Cy-Woods is very solid, well coached, and should have a pretty good scheme to defense the RB. Watch their Def back- he is amazing and unbelievably fast - not sure where he is going but he should be recruited heavily. One of the best players in 15-5a.
Offensively Woods has been a machine all year.
bobcatfan
11-10-2009, 09:58 AM
There is no chance Falls will beat Stony and I will take you up on that bet :D
:confused: There is always a chance when it's the playoffs.
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 10:02 AM
Ummmmm....I took that as a compliment...not smack talk. :D
It was. The other is an inside joke on this end.;)
LION57
11-10-2009, 10:22 AM
dang, there is not a sub20 number on there.
lions, what are our playoff teams' PAPG averages (for district only)?
Not sure where to just look up district but here it is for the season someone smarter or who has more time to figure that one out.
PAPG
STP-9.4
Leander-21.4
Westwood-21.7
Cedar Park-24.1
bobcatfan
11-10-2009, 10:26 AM
Here's mine..........
Leander/Creek.......
Westwood/Woods......c-dub pee's his pants before the game starts from the excitement.
Ridge/Cedar Park........It's quite.
Falls/Stony Point.........c-dub and I are tipsy before we get back from Austin.Bet I am closer than you.:D
:laugh This is the 5 Star lock pick of the weekend!!!
txhsfootball
11-10-2009, 10:54 AM
Awesome, he sounds like an outstanding player. The 16-5A vs. 15-5A games will be very fun to watch.
I know the STP is a great team, but I would not disccount Falls. Falls has speed, and a solid OL. The kids at Falls are pumped and ready to ball out. Because they have so many young players making significant contributions, they aren't caught up in STP's reputation or ranking. Speed always has an impact, and Falls has lots of speed.
I had the privilege of seeing falls play this year. Very good young team. They play hard and get after you. But, if we are talking speed, their speed does not match up to Stony Point speed very well. Falls has some speed on offense but their defensive speed does not compare to Stony Points Offensive speed.
i think it will be a better game than most expect. But in the end, like you said; speed always has an impact and Stony Point has way to much for Falls
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 11:04 AM
I had the privilege of seeing falls play this year. Very good young team. They play hard and get after you. But, if we are talking speed, their speed does not match up to Stony Point speed very well. Falls has some speed on offense but their defensive speed does not compare to Stony Points Offensive speed.
i think it will be a better game than most expect. But in the end, like you said; speed always has an impact and Stony Point has way to much for Falls
The kids will have to play mistake free assignment football to try and contend with that speed and then be aggressive. If they sit and wait it will be like backing up on a ground ball......it will eat you up.
How is SP's OL?
twolf5
11-10-2009, 11:21 AM
The kids will have to play mistake free assignment football to try and contend with that speed and then be aggressive. If they sit and wait it will be like backing up on a ground ball......it will eat you up.
How is SP's OL?
This is one area where they haven't been very consistant if you ask me. If they had Cedar Park's Oline no one could beat them, but the line the have is good, not great.
C-DUB
11-10-2009, 11:31 AM
Hey, when do we hear about the rain again. That was great.:notworthy
Who has the "Black Rain Defense"?:eek:
Beanz
11-10-2009, 11:31 AM
Not sure where to just look up district but here it is for the season someone smarter or who has more time to figure that one out.
PAPG
STP-9.4
Leander-21.4
Westwood-21.7
Cedar Park-24.1
i will try to calculate it. i think the cp/rr game will boosts our PAPG up a few points though :eek: haha
Beanz
11-10-2009, 11:32 AM
Who has the "Black Rain Defense"?:eek:
cedar park
C-DUB
11-10-2009, 11:36 AM
cedar park
Great Beanz, so tell us how it became the "Black Rain"?:confused:
:confused: There is always a chance when it's the playoffs.
Not in this game. Stony will be way too much for Falls, especially at home.
Beanz
11-10-2009, 01:01 PM
Great Beanz, so tell us how it became the "Black Rain"?:confused:
i do not know where the root of it comes from. there are different black rain definitions like a fallout from a nuclear bomb, the ozzy song black rain, and of course cedar park wears black uniforms at home so i guess that comes into play as well. (actually this year they mostly wore white uniforms because they were superstitious, believe it or not)
honestly i have not looked into it, i just think it sounds cool.
Beanz
11-10-2009, 01:02 PM
Not in this game. Stony will be way too much for Falls, especially at home.
that's what i said before the cedar park/stony point game. i figured with nathan hurt there was no way hogan or posey could hold up against sp's defense... luckily i was wrong.
that's what i said before the cedar park/stony point game. i figured with nathan hurt there was no way hogan or posey could hold up against sp's defense... luckily i was wrong.
Yes Hogan and Posey both proved themselves in that game. IMO, Hogan could start at QB for any team in 16-5A.
Beanz
11-10-2009, 01:16 PM
Yes Hogan and Posey both proved themselves in that game. IMO, Hogan could start at QB for any team in 16-5A.
you and sp head coach chessher are in agreement there. after the sp/cp game chessher said he did not know why hogan is not a starter, but he would start him.
Not sure where to just look up district but here it is for the season someone smarter or who has more time to figure that one out.
PAPG
STP-9.4
Leander-21.4
Westwood-21.7
Cedar Park-24.1
Here are the PAPG for 16-5A districts games only.
PAPG
Cedar Park: 21.3
Stony Point: 12.0
Leander: 22.0
Westwood: 20.6
Beanz
11-10-2009, 01:19 PM
Here are the PAPG for 16-5A districts games only.
PAPG
Cedar Park: 21.3
Stony Point: 12.0
Leander: 22.0
Westwood: 20.6
yup, that round rock game killed us haha.
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 01:22 PM
Not in this game. Stony will be way too much for Falls, especially at home.
Maybe so for this young Falls team. Most everyone felt they had no chance against Woods last week also. But, they pulled together and proved a few nay sayers wrong. Maybe they can create another miracle this week. But either way it goes, it will be a great experience for the seniors who have not been part of a playoff game and great experience for the underclassmen who will be back next year. I still believe they have a chance.;)
Airstrike
11-10-2009, 01:37 PM
you and sp head coach chessher are in agreement there. after the sp/cp game chessher said he did not know why hogan is not a starter, but he would start him.
That was a dumb comment by Chessher and a real insult to Nathan and his own QBs. Right now, Hogan is an up and coming QB who happens to be very elusive running the ball. The downside with that is that he makes CP terribly one-dimensional on offense. That can only work so long until teams learn how to take that away or the law of averages catches up to him and he gets hurt. Understanding reads, being able to throw the ball downfield when called upon, getting stronger, etc., are still things he must develop to be a quality QB and with proper coaching, he can get there. No way other 16-5A teams start him over their starters. In essence, he is more of CP's version of the Wildcat because you can bet the farm he's running the ball on virtually every snap, just as RBs do in the Wildcat. Didn't he have something like 60 carries in 2 games when Nate was out? And wasn't CP 1-1 during that stretch, beating Stony Point but losing to Westwood? Yikes!:eek:
C-DUB
11-10-2009, 01:39 PM
Maybe so for this young Falls team. Most everyone felt they had no chance against Woods last week also. But, they pulled together and proved a few nay sayers wrong. Maybe they can create another miracle this week. But either way it goes, it will be a great experience for the seniors who have not been part of a playoff game and great experience for the underclassmen who will be back next year. I still believe they have a chance.;)
I didn't expect last weeks loss would turn into a "Battle Cry" for Falls.
like "Remember the Alamo" or something.:(
- sTp -
11-10-2009, 01:45 PM
This is one area where they haven't been very consistant if you ask me. If they had Cedar Park's Oline no one could beat them, but the line the have is good, not great.
From what I understand, SP made some massive changes to the O-line about 48 hours before the CP game, hence the "newness" of their play. They have come together in the last couple of weeks and have helped pop off a couple of LONG touchdowns in the last two games.. Heck, they even pulled one off against CP late in the game.
They aren't monsters by any stretch, but they are athletic and well coached.
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 01:45 PM
I didn't expect last weeks loss would turn into a "Battle Cry" for Falls.
like "Remember the Alamo" or something.:(
Not like that at all. That battle cry was formulated from a loss.:eek:
bobcatfan
11-10-2009, 01:54 PM
Maybe so for this young Falls team. Most everyone felt they had no chance against Woods last week also. But, they pulled together and proved a few nay sayers wrong. Maybe they can create another miracle this week. But either way it goes, it will be a great experience for the seniors who have not been part of a playoff game and great experience for the underclassmen who will be back next year. I still believe they have a chance.;)
:notworthy That is exactly why I questioned the post. To just come out and say a team has "no chance" is ludicrous.
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 01:58 PM
:notworthy That is exactly why I questioned the post. To just come out and say a team has "no chance" is ludicrous.
Thanks, bcf!
And I like the red ludicrous better than the black.
bobcatfan
11-10-2009, 02:00 PM
Thanks, bcf!
And I like the red ludicrous better than the black.
:laugh
Beanz
11-10-2009, 04:43 PM
That was a dumb comment by Chessher and a real insult to Nathan and his own QBs. Right now, Hogan is an up and coming QB who happens to be very elusive running the ball. The downside with that is that he makes CP terribly one-dimensional on offense. That can only work so long until teams learn how to take that away or the law of averages catches up to him and he gets hurt. Understanding reads, being able to throw the ball downfield when called upon, getting stronger, etc., are still things he must develop to be a quality QB and with proper coaching, he can get there. No way other 16-5A teams start him over their starters. In essence, he is more of CP's version of the Wildcat because you can bet the farm he's running the ball on virtually every snap, just as RBs do in the Wildcat. Didn't he have something like 60 carries in 2 games when Nate was out? And wasn't CP 1-1 during that stretch, beating Stony Point but losing to Westwood? Yikes!:eek:
hogan had a very nice come back in that game.
you realize that if cedar park had won that game, then Hogan would have beaten the highest ranked opponent cedar park has ever played AND had the largest come back cedar park has ever faced AND claimed the outright district title for cedar park ALL within his first three games as a starter!!! now that would be something to put on a resume.
Shamu85
11-10-2009, 04:56 PM
hogan had a very nice come back in that game.
you realize that if cedar park had won that game, then Hogan would have beaten the highest ranked opponent cedar park has ever played AND had the largest come back cedar park has ever faced AND claimed the outright district title for cedar park ALL within his first three games as a starter!!! now that would be something to put on a resume.
It's hard to argue with the kid's success, but I gotta tell you, from an outsider's standpoint, I would not feel comfortable with him being my full time starter in that kind of offense. I mean, the kid is only 150, and that is soaking wet. I saw him breaking tackles in the Leander game highlights, and I don't see how he is not crushed. The odds are not good for that to continue for him. Mass usually wins out in the end.
Beanz
11-10-2009, 05:01 PM
It's hard to argue with the kid's success, but I gotta tell you, from an outsider's standpoint, I would not feel comfortable with him being my full time starter in that kind of offense. I mean, the kid is only 150, and that is soaking wet. I saw him breaking tackles in the Leander game highlights, and I don't see how he is not crushed. The odds are not good for that to continue for him. Mass usually wins out in the end.
:laugh
so true though. i guess it is just his "slippery" factor... either that or he is invisible when he turns sideways and the defenders cannot see him. but give it an off season and he will be ready i think. if anything, he definitely needs to develop a strong arm so cp does not have to switch in posey on every third and long situation.
RRISDFAN
11-10-2009, 05:43 PM
Two Points.
1 - Everyone has a chance. To say someone has no chance is crazy. RRSP fans can tell you about being underdogs the last two years. You don't beat Woods and not have a chance.
2- That Hogan kid has as much heart as anyone I have seen play all year. He has my vote for MVP. From what I can tell the only person that has stopped him all year is the CP coach.
Beanz
11-10-2009, 06:32 PM
Two Points.
1 - Everyone has a chance. To say someone has no chance is crazy. RRSP fans can tell you about being underdogs the last two years. You don't beat Woods and not have a chance.
2- That Hogan kid has as much heart as anyone I have seen play all year. He has my vote for MVP. From what I can tell the only person that has stopped him all year is the CP coach.
that's probably because you have no idea what you are talking about.
nathan is better than hogan as of this moment. hogan has a lot of heart and talent and he will be getting better and better each practice, each game, and each off season. but still, nathan is better than hogan as of now.
hogan has definitely gotten a lot of experience these last three games. he knows what it is like to defeat a heavily favored team... he knows what it is like to hurry an offense for a fourth quarter come back... he knows what it is like to get upset... he even knows what it is like to defeat his rival team and get a district champ title.
however, he does not have the arm to be able to beat the coverage. he does not have the size to run up the middle and pound his way into the endzone.
he is shifty and speedy. he can call zone reads and get the defense mixed up so that he faces less defenders up the middle. he has good accuracy he just needs a stronger arm... all of these things he will get better and better at in time. but right now nathan is ahead of him in these aspects, so nathan will start until coach ross thinks nathan is risking too much.
if you remember, at the beginning of the season everyone said nathan thornhill had a terribly inaccurate arm... now he has worked on it and got it down for the most part. hogan will mold somewhat the same way.
RRISDFAN
11-10-2009, 07:12 PM
that's probably because you have no idea what you are talking about.
nathan is better than hogan as of this moment. hogan has a lot of heart and talent and he will be getting better and better each practice, each game, and each off season. but still, nathan is better than hogan as of now.
hogan has definitely gotten a lot of experience these last three games. he knows what it is like to defeat a heavily favored team... he knows what it is like to hurry an offense for a fourth quarter come back... he knows what it is like to get upset... he even knows what it is like to defeat his rival team and get a district champ title.
however, he does not have the arm to be able to beat the coverage. he does not have the size to run up the middle and pound his way into the endzone.
he is shifty and speedy. he can call zone reads and get the defense mixed up so that he faces less defenders up the middle. he has good accuracy he just needs a stronger arm... all of these things he will get better and better at in time. but right now nathan is ahead of him in these aspects, so nathan will start until coach ross thinks nathan is risking too much.
if you remember, at the beginning of the season everyone said nathan thornhill had a terribly inaccurate arm... now he has worked on it and got it down for the most part. hogan will mold somewhat the same way.
Beanz I did not watch much of CP listen to a couple of the last games so you might be right. You can't argue about Hogan's heart. I do take it as a complement when YOU tell me I don't know what I am talking about.:D I am glad I stirred you up for a change.:D Good Luck I will be listening to your game but I will be at the Palace.
Airstrike
11-10-2009, 07:27 PM
hogan had a very nice come back in that game.
you realize that if cedar park had won that game, then Hogan would have beaten the highest ranked opponent cedar park has ever played AND had the largest come back cedar park has ever faced AND claimed the outright district title for cedar park ALL within his first three games as a starter!!! now that would be something to put on a resume.
Wasn't saying he didn't do a good job for his relative inexperience. Just he isn't the guy just yet, but it will come. Thought it was interesting CP had to use a trick play and let a WR throw the ball 50+ yards on that comeback try. WR to WR...don't see that very often!
twolf5
11-10-2009, 08:09 PM
Two Points.
1 - Everyone has a chance. To say someone has no chance is crazy. RRSP fans can tell you about being underdogs the last two years. You don't beat Woods and not have a chance.
2- That Hogan kid has as much heart as anyone I have seen play all year. He has my vote for MVP. From what I can tell the only person that has stopped him all year is the CP coach.
Thornhill is BY FAR the best QB on Cedar Park's team and frankly I think in the district. He was leading the district in TD's (13) before he got hurt. He would have ended the year with over 1,000 yards rushing and 1,000 yards passing if he hadn't gotten hurt against Vista. He almost did anyway even though he's basically missed three games. He's the complete package, passing, running, option, leadership, all of it. And he did this not playing a varsity snap in his life and not playing football for two years.
Hogan has a very unique skill set and is going to be a holy terror next year. He is a holy terror running the ball this year too, but just needs a year of experience and weight room work to develop into the package that Thornhill is today.
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 09:16 PM
So is this just a continuation of y'all's regular season discussion? If so, us 155A teams will go elsewhere and leave you boys to stroke yourselves.
CFISDFootballFan
11-10-2009, 09:42 PM
So is this just a continuation of y'all's regular season discussion? If so, us 155A teams will go elsewhere and leave you boys to stroke yourselves.
Hey this is like watching CNN...:eek:
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 09:44 PM
Hey this is like watching CNN...:eek:
Or MTV.:ninja:
CFISDFootballFan
11-10-2009, 09:46 PM
:notworthy That is exactly why I questioned the post. To just come out and say a team has "no chance" is ludicrous.
You can never count out a CFISD team, especially this one. Falls has a very good coach.
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 09:51 PM
You can never count out a CFISD team, especially this one. Falls has a very good coach.
I am sure the program appreciates your comments.
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 09:54 PM
So what is everyones opinion of the out comes for this weekend?
165A - 0-4 or 4-0.
155A - 0-4 or 4-0.
And since I have already discussed the need for thinking about points in between, those are open for choice also. Who wins and who loses?
Leather Head
11-10-2009, 09:57 PM
Question for those who will be attending the 'Wood vs Woods game: How will you know which team to root for? Don't let anybody get on the wrong bus.
Round Rock ISD is opening a new HS next year named "Cedar Ridge". Very original name. Not to be confused with other schools in the district named: Ridge View, Cedar Park, Vista Ridge, Cedar Valley, Park Ridge, Cedar View, Ridge Park, and Vista Valley Park View on Brushy Creek
CFISDFootballFan
11-10-2009, 09:59 PM
I am sure the program appreciates your comments.
I loved watching the Ridge/Falls games. I think they are 3-3 against each other. :notworthy
Now its time for both to show what they can do outside the district.
Win or loose they have given football fans great games to watch.
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 09:59 PM
Question for those who will be attending the 'Wood vs Woods game: How will you know which team to root for? Don't let anybody get on the wrong bus.
Round Rock ISD is opening a new HS next year named "Cedar Ridge". Very original name. Not to be confused with other schools in the district named: Ridge View, Cedar Park, Vista Ridge, Cedar Valley, Park Ridge, Cedar View, Ridge Park, and Vista Valley Park View on Brushy Creek
I LOVE it! That is more screwed up than us!:D:notworthy
CFISDFootballFan
11-10-2009, 10:01 PM
Question for those who will be attending the 'Wood vs Woods game: How will you know which team to root for? Don't let anybody get on the wrong bus.
Round Rock ISD is opening a new HS next year named "Cedar Ridge". Very original name. Not to be confused with other schools in the district named: Ridge View, Cedar Park, Vista Ridge, Cedar Valley, Park Ridge, Cedar View, Ridge Park, and Vista Valley Park View on Brushy Creek
Like Cy-Fair, Cy-Falls, Cy-Creek, Cy-Springs, Cy-Ridge, Cy-Woods, Cy-Ranch and Cy-Lakes:eek:
CFISDFootballFan
11-10-2009, 10:03 PM
Like Cy-Fair, Cy-Falls, Cy-Creek, Cy-Springs, Cy-Ridge, Cy-Woods, Cy-Ranch and Cy-Lakes:eek:
Sorry I did not mean to leave off Jersey Village and Langham Creek. But those school didn't follow the Cy-....
cyfallsbooster2
11-10-2009, 10:09 PM
Like Cy-Fair, Cy-Falls, Cy-Creek, Cy-Springs, Cy-Ridge, Cy-Woods, Cy-Ranch and Cy-Lakes:eek:
You left out Cy-Langham and Cy-JV.;)
bobcatfan
11-10-2009, 10:19 PM
You left out Cy-Langham and Cy-JV.;)
You also left out Cy-Booster for high school #11 since we know that ALL of the coaches troll the message boards to see what Booster has to post as they game plan, or so Creek believes.:rolleyes:
bobcatfan
11-10-2009, 10:23 PM
So is this just a continuation of y'all's regular season discussion? If so, us 155A teams will go elsewhere and leave you boys to stroke yourselves.
It appears so. I'm just waiting for them to start breaking out the "Your Momma" jokes on each other.:D Where did Point Made go? Intelligent poster that actually talked about the upcoming games.
Beanz
11-10-2009, 10:50 PM
It appears so. I'm just waiting for them to start breaking out the "Your Momma" jokes on each other.:D Where did Point Made go? Intelligent poster that actually talked about the upcoming games.
what is cy woods' biggest weakness?
bobcatfan
11-10-2009, 10:52 PM
what is cy woods' biggest weakness?
C-Dub.:eek:
Beanz
11-10-2009, 10:54 PM
C-Dub.:eek:
c-dub... as in c-double u...
ok, what is c-dub's biggest weakness?
bobcatfan
11-10-2009, 11:08 PM
c-dub... as in c-double u...
ok, what is c-dub's biggest weakness?
Just kidding, C-Dub is Woods #1 fan and a great guy. I probably am not qualified to answer your question Beanz since I've only seen about 4 of Woods games this year, and every time I watched them they didn't have any obvious weekness in their game. IMO, they have some very gifted athletes on both sides of the ball. If you get to the game, watch Bryce Callahan #4 for Woods on defense and special teams (No, I'm not his dad). He is a ball hawk on defense, and if opposing teams actually kick the ball to him he more often than not makes them pay. With all that said, C-Dub can give you a better break down of Woods.:)
Beanz
11-11-2009, 12:21 AM
Just kidding, C-Dub is Woods #1 fan and a great guy. I probably am not qualified to answer your question Beanz since I've only seen about 4 of Woods games this year, and every time I watched them they didn't have any obvious weekness in their game. IMO, they have some very gifted athletes on both sides of the ball. If you get to the game, watch Bryce Callahan #4 for Woods on defense and special teams (No, I'm not his dad). He is a ball hawk on defense, and if opposing teams actually kick the ball to him he more often than not makes them pay. With all that said, C-Dub can give you a better break down of Woods.:)
1) haha i was beginning to think so
2) where can i find this c-dub kid?
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 08:06 AM
C-Dub.:eek:
:laugh
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 08:16 AM
what is cy woods' biggest weakness?
bobcatfan is right. Woods does not have any glaring weaknesses. They are very solid in all aspects of the game. Solid, not outstanding, just solid. They do have a few really bright spots like the Callahan kid he mentioned. Also, there is a receiver of theirs that is really a very quite stud. Wish I could remember his name. Huntsman, the qb, really makes the offense click by spreading the ball out to all the playmakers very well. I guess the biggest weakness they may have had early in the season were a few of the young ones putting the ball on the ground, but they seem to have corrected that.
One thing I can say is that win or lose against this team, your defense is going to be exhausted from chasing these guys all over the field. They are everywhere.....like flys!:D
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 08:18 AM
1) haha i was beginning to think so
2) where can i find this c-dub kid?
#2 - Hiding in the bushes. Waiting for his shots.:ninja:
Hellhound
11-11-2009, 10:36 AM
So what is everyones opinion of the out comes for this weekend?
.....
And since I have already discussed the need for thinking about points in between, those are open for choice also. Who wins and who loses?
- Stony Point by 26.
- Westwood over Cy Woods by 3.
- Cy Creek over Leander by 12.
- CP over Cy Ridge by 16.
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 10:44 AM
You also left out Cy-Booster for high school #11 since we know that ALL of the coaches troll the message boards to see what Booster has to post as they game plan, or so Creek believes.:rolleyes:
We will be a POWERHOUSE when we open! I know right where to get all the information to help us win.:ninja:
LeanderLions3033
11-11-2009, 11:21 AM
- Stony Point by 26.
- Westwood over Cy Woods by 3.
- Cy Creek over Leander by 12.
- CP over Cy Ridge by 16.
The admins are picking 16-5a to go 3-1 over 15-5a in their predictions, with Leander losing to Cy Creek being the lone loss for the district. Ever since Coach Gideon has been at Leander we are 6-0 in 1st round playoff games, so hopefully we can pull our weight for the district so we can bust out the brooms ;)
Beanz
11-11-2009, 11:48 AM
The admins are picking 16-5a to go 3-1 over 15-5a in their predictions, with Leander losing to Cy Creek being the lone loss for the district. Ever since Coach Gideon has been at Leander we are 6-0 in 1st round playoff games, so hopefully we can pull our weight for the district so we can bust out the brooms ;)
that is why it is so hard for me to choose cy creek.
i definitely agree that cy creek has an amazing offense, but in my mind it is hard to say gideon will lose first round... no matter who leander plays.
leander might very well lose this game because their opponent is very potent, but it is just weird to think about... especially since leander is like cp's big brother. you want to beat them, but you do not want anyone else to beat them.
Hellhound
11-11-2009, 12:02 PM
The admins are picking 16-5a to go 3-1 over 15-5a in their predictions, with Leander losing to Cy Creek being the lone loss for the district. Ever since Coach Gideon has been at Leander we are 6-0 in 1st round playoff games, so hopefully we can pull our weight for the district so we can bust out the brooms ;)
Didn't know about the 6-0 record. (But how many of those 6 wins were when the Lions were a 3 or 4 district seed?)
I pretty much based my picks (except for SP) on how the teams were playing the last few games of the season.
Beanz
11-11-2009, 12:05 PM
Didn't know about the 6-0 record. (But how many of those 6 wins were when the Lions were a 3 or 4 district seed?)
I pretty much based my picks (except for SP) on how the teams were playing the last few games of the season.
now that is a good point.
LeanderLions3033
11-11-2009, 12:41 PM
Didn't know about the 6-0 record. (But how many of those 6 wins were when the Lions were a 3 or 4 district seed?)
I pretty much based my picks (except for SP) on how the teams were playing the last few games of the season.
3 times out of the 6. In 03 and 04 we were apart of a 3 way tie for district champions with all 3 teams going 6-1(this was back when only 3 teams made the playoffs). Because of how big our school was at the time we would always be in the division 2 bracket and in these two years the other team in that bracket was the lone team that beat us in the district, so were matched up with 13-5as 1st place team two years in a row (Copperas Cove in 03 and a Ramonce Taylor led Belton squad in 04). Then in the 07-08 season (the year we beat Cedar Park in the final game of the year when it was a winner makes playoffs, loser goes home game) we finished either 3rd or 4th, im not sure. So it's been done before.
And my response to whats in bold
Thats why im a little anxious to see which team shows up on friday. Because up until the Cedar Park game, we had gotten a little better, and a little more consistent each game. We simply ran into matchup problems with Cedar Park and thats what football is all about, how your individual units match up with the opposing teams. How does your Oline and rbs match up with the opposing teams front 7. How does your wr's and qb matchup with their secondary and vis versa. Im not saying we'll win the game because i know nothing about Cy Creek, but if the Leander shows up like they did from weeks 4-9 they should be a tough team to beat.
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 12:44 PM
what is cy woods' biggest weakness?
Biggest weakness by far is turnovers.
Cypress Woods or CW = C-DUB
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 12:47 PM
1) haha i was beginning to think so
2) where can i find this c-dub kid?
The kid is 50.:eek:
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 12:52 PM
c-dub... as in c-double u...
ok, what is c-dub's biggest weakness?
fast cars, loose women & drinking. Just to name a few.:cool:
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 01:09 PM
The kid is 50.:eek:
Yes. And deceptively slow with hands of stone.:D
gundyman
11-11-2009, 01:10 PM
- Stony Point by 26.
- Westwood over Cy Woods by 3.
- Cy Creek over Leander by 12.
- CP over Cy Ridge by 16.
The chatter on this board is very similar to last year...when most posters from 16-5a thought they would shut-out 15-5a or go 3-1. Result 1-3.
Now I'm not saying that 15-5a will dominate 16-5a but I will say that the most likely scenario is a 2-2 split...Just my opinion having not seen any of the 16-5a games. I suspect that virtually none of the posters from 16-5a have seen any 15-5a games and vice versa. I'm unaware of any common opponants.
Absent any further concrete information than last years results, wouldn't logic dictate 15-5a is at least as competitive as 16-5a? Just sayin...
Anyway, I'm a Cy-Woods supporter and I like our chances...
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 01:16 PM
Yes. And deceptively slow with hands of stone.:D
Dude, that's not my hands.:D
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 01:25 PM
bobcatfan is right. Woods does not have any glaring weaknesses. They are very solid in all aspects of the game. Solid, not outstanding, just solid. They do have a few really bright spots like the Callahan kid he mentioned. Also, there is a receiver of theirs that is really a very quite stud. Wish I could remember his name. Huntsman, the qb, really makes the offense click by spreading the ball out to all the playmakers very well. I guess the biggest weakness they may have had early in the season were a few of the young ones putting the ball on the ground, but they seem to have corrected that.
One thing I can say is that win or lose against this team, your defense is going to be exhausted from chasing these guys all over the field. They are everywhere.....like flys!:D
#6 Isaiah Battle
twolf5
11-11-2009, 01:25 PM
The chatter on this board is very similar to last year...when most posters from 16-5a thought they would shut-out 15-5a or go 3-1. Result 1-3.
Now I'm not saying that 15-5a will dominate 16-5a but I will say that the most likely scenario is a 2-2 split...Just my opinion having not seen any of the 16-5a games. I suspect that virtually none of the posters from 16-5a have seen any 15-5a games and vice versa. I'm unaware of any common opponants.
Absent any further concrete information than last years results, wouldn't logic dictate 15-5a is at least as competitive as 16-5a? Just sayin...
Anyway, I'm a Cy-Woods supporter and I like our chances...
I would say your generally right about most posters not having seen each others teams. I believe it could be 3-1 us, 2-2 or 3-1 you. In order of least likely to lose to most likely to lose from our district is Stony, Cedar Park, Leander, Westwood. Having said that every single team, both ours and yours, has a chance this weekend. A REAL chance. These are two really good districts that have put 4 solid teams in the playoffs.
I quit the specific predictions after we got blown out by Lake Travis in week three. ;)
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 01:26 PM
The chatter on this board is very similar to last year...when most posters from 16-5a thought they would shut-out 15-5a or go 3-1. Result 1-3.
Now I'm not saying that 15-5a will dominate 16-5a but I will say that the most likely scenario is a 2-2 split...Just my opinion having not seen any of the 16-5a games. I suspect that virtually none of the posters from 16-5a have seen any 15-5a games and vice versa. I'm unaware of any common opponants.
Absent any further concrete information than last years results, wouldn't logic dictate 15-5a is at least as competitive as 16-5a? Just sayin...
Anyway, I'm a Cy-Woods supporter and I like our chances...
Let's hope all the 155A teams step up this week and beat the odds. 165A always has good teams who play with alot of passion and effort. The coaching is very solid over there and they always seem to have several outstanding athletes. Remember, it wasn't easy last year.
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 01:28 PM
#6 Isaiah Battle
Thank you! How can I forget a name like that? His name describes his play.:notworthy
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 01:29 PM
Let's hope all the 155A teams step up this week and beat the odds. 165A always has good teams who play with alot of passion and effort. The coaching is very solid over there and they always seem to have several outstanding athletes. Remember, it wasn't easy last year.
No it wasn't. I'm still effected.:ninja:
gundyman
11-11-2009, 01:32 PM
Let's hope all the 155A teams step up this week and beat the odds. 165A always has good teams who play with alot of passion and effort. The coaching is very solid over there and they always seem to have several outstanding athletes. Remember, it wasn't easy last year.
I know it wasn't easy and it could have gone either way on several of the wins. I'm just saying some posters get on with an air of superiority that is unwarranted (either way I might add).
Generally, I think Stony Point is the most likely to win (though Falls has some phenominal young talent - they will likely be the favorite next year). After that the rest of the games are harder to call.
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 01:33 PM
Just kidding, C-Dub is Woods #1 fan and a great guy. I probably am not qualified to answer your question Beanz since I've only seen about 4 of Woods games this year, and every time I watched them they didn't have any obvious weekness in their game. IMO, they have some very gifted athletes on both sides of the ball. If you get to the game, watch Bryce Callahan #4 for Woods on defense and special teams (No, I'm not his dad). He is a ball hawk on defense, and if opposing teams actually kick the ball to him he more often than not makes them pay. With all that said, C-Dub can give you a better break down of Woods.:)
We were not going to talk about this during the playoffs.:o
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 01:38 PM
I would say your generally right about most posters not having seen each others teams. I believe it could be 3-1 us, 2-2 or 3-1 you. In order of least likely to lose to most likely to lose from our district is Stony, Cedar Park, Leander, Westwood. Having said that every single team, both ours and yours, has a chance this weekend. A REAL chance. These are two really good districts that have put 4 solid teams in the playoffs.
I quit the specific predictions after we got blown out by Lake Travis in week three. ;)
I'm guessing Westwood would run a ball control offense?
Hellhound
11-11-2009, 01:49 PM
Chatter dude here. :D
The chatter on this board is very similar to last year...when most posters from 16-5a thought they would shut-out 15-5a or go 3-1. Result 1-3.
Now I'm not saying that 15-5a will dominate 16-5a but I will say that the most likely scenario is a 2-2 split...Just my opinion having not seen any of the 16-5a games. I suspect that virtually none of the posters from 16-5a have seen any 15-5a games and vice versa. I'm unaware of any common opponants.
Absent any further concrete information than last years results, wouldn't logic dictate 15-5a is at least as competitive as 16-5a? Just sayin...
Anyway, I'm a Cy-Woods supporter and I like our chances...
Someone asked for picks & i gave picks. & I'm a FG away from a 2-2 split.
fwiw.....I think SP is a legit final 4 team. I like the way CP plays smashmouth football & their experience. Westwood is as close to a home team that I've got & i like the way they come back (& their intangibles).
But I could be 0-4 with Leander being the only winner. (doubt it though....I think SP goes several rounds)
Beanz
11-11-2009, 01:55 PM
Chatter dude here. :D
Someone asked for picks & i gave picks. & I'm a FG away from a 2-2 split.
fwiw.....I think SP is a legit final 4 team. I like the way CP plays smashmouth football & their experience. Westwood is as close to a home team that I've got & i like the way they come back (& their intangibles).
But I could be 0-4 with Leander being the only winner. (doubt it though....I think SP goes several rounds)
sp will have to play the woodlands AT THE WOODLANDS if they both win this week.
Hellhound
11-11-2009, 02:09 PM
sp will have to play the woodlands AT THE WOODLANDS if they both win this week.
I have DeSoto & Stony Point in my regional final.
(i didn't say i was smart.....but i like SP to make a run. Some favorites are gonna get knocked off. :))
Beanz
11-11-2009, 02:16 PM
I'm guessing Westwood would run a ball control offense?
C-DUB!!! the famous one. you have no idea how confusing this thread has been with cy woods = c dub and you actually being c dub.
alright. westwood is a ball control offense to the max. they run the wildcat with princeton collins and their qb as a second attack mostly. you will not see much passing from them unless you stop collins... however, if you stop collins, you stop westwood.
i don't want to sound like a sell out, but since coaches are not searching through this site trying to learn how to beat each other, i can tell you the best way to beat westwood. the best way is to run a 4-3 Free Fire blitz THE WHOLE GAME. collins won't be able to do anything if you force him to the middle where your lbs meet up in this set up.
westwood likes running fake handoffs and counters off of the side of the RG/LG, but they rarely run straight up the middle. with a free fire blitz you can force him to the center, or tackle him for a loss. either way you can make him a non factor. then the quarterback will have to come in with fakes and what not, but a free fire blitz does not have any holes in it for the qb to scramble... so he will be stuck having to use his arm.
this is what stony point did to them, and westwod only had about 20 total yards rushing the whole game! when cedar park caught on to westwood's schemes and figured out how to stop them, they completely shut collins down and westwood couldn't do anything for the majority of the third and fourth quarters (even though it was already too late). westwood ended up with negative passing yards and less than 200 total yards... most of those yards came from the first half.
all in all, if you shut down westwood's run game, then you will win... but that might be a big IF because no team from 15-5A has seen westwood.
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 02:45 PM
I know it wasn't easy and it could have gone either way on several of the wins. I'm just saying some posters get on with an air of superiority that is unwarranted (either way I might add).
Generally, I think Stony Point is the most likely to win (though Falls has some phenominal young talent - they will likely be the favorite next year). After that the rest of the games are harder to call.
I agree.
coachtom4
11-11-2009, 04:56 PM
[/Quote]
alright. westwood is a ball control offense to the max. they run the wildcat with princeton collins and their qb as a second attack mostly. you will not see much passing from them unless you stop collins... however, if you stop collins, you stop westwood.
i don't want to sound like a sell out, but since coaches are not searching through this site trying to learn how to beat each other, i can tell you the best way to beat westwood. the best way is to run a 4-3 Free Fire blitz THE WHOLE GAME. collins won't be able to do anything if you force him to the middle where your lbs meet up in this set up.
westwood likes running fake handoffs and counters off of the side of the RG/LG, but they rarely run straight up the middle. with a free fire blitz you can force him to the center, or tackle him for a loss. either way you can make him a non factor. then the quarterback will have to come in with fakes and what not, but a free fire blitz does not have any holes in it for the qb to scramble... so he will be stuck having to use his arm.
this is what stony point did to them, and westwod only had about 20 total yards rushing the whole game! when cedar park caught on to westwood's schemes and figured out how to stop them, they completely shut collins down and westwood couldn't do anything for the majority of the third and fourth quarters (even though it was already too late). westwood ended up with negative passing yards and less than 200 total yards... most of those yards came from the first half.
all in all, if you shut down westwood's run game, then you will win... but that might be a big IF because no team from 15-5A has seen westwood.[/QUOTE]
...and they either win by a lot or lose by a lot... CP was their only game decided by single digits with most of the outcomes decided before half time (wins and losses...)
lefty01
11-11-2009, 05:25 PM
#6 Isaiah Battle
Yeah callahan and the QB are the 2 who stood out the most. The QB really got on a roll in the 2nd half against us. The plan was to hit him as much as possible and hope he is one of those kids that gets shaky and wears down. Obviously that plan did not work...at all. We hit him in the 1st half..and well, as the score indicated...Woods is just a well rounded team.
Beanz
11-11-2009, 05:45 PM
alright. westwood is a ball control offense to the max. they run the wildcat with princeton collins and their qb as a second attack mostly. you will not see much passing from them unless you stop collins... however, if you stop collins, you stop westwood.
i don't want to sound like a sell out, but since coaches are not searching through this site trying to learn how to beat each other, i can tell you the best way to beat westwood. the best way is to run a 4-3 Free Fire blitz THE WHOLE GAME. collins won't be able to do anything if you force him to the middle where your lbs meet up in this set up.
westwood likes running fake handoffs and counters off of the side of the RG/LG, but they rarely run straight up the middle. with a free fire blitz you can force him to the center, or tackle him for a loss. either way you can make him a non factor. then the quarterback will have to come in with fakes and what not, but a free fire blitz does not have any holes in it for the qb to scramble... so he will be stuck having to use his arm.
this is what stony point did to them, and westwod only had about 20 total yards rushing the whole game! when cedar park caught on to westwood's schemes and figured out how to stop them, they completely shut collins down and westwood couldn't do anything for the majority of the third and fourth quarters (even though it was already too late). westwood ended up with negative passing yards and less than 200 total yards... most of those yards came from the first half.
all in all, if you shut down westwood's run game, then you will win... but that might be a big IF because no team from 15-5A has seen westwood.[/QUOTE]
...and they either win by a lot or lose by a lot... CP was their only game decided by single digits with most of the outcomes decided before half time (wins and losses...)[/QUOTE]
yeah but cp was trying to make an 18 point comeback, so it was pretty much decided
Shamu85
11-11-2009, 05:57 PM
No it wasn't. I'm still effected.:ninja:
That was a fun game last year wasn't it? So many ups and downs in the last 2 minutes.
BTW, even more confusing for me is I am from Southern Brazoria County, and down there we call West Columbia Dub C.
C dub
Dub C
C Woods
'Wood
:confused::confused::confused:
:eek:
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 06:49 PM
sp will have to play the woodlands AT THE WOODLANDS if they both win this week.
THAT would be a fun game to watch!:eek:
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 07:08 PM
How would SP attack and defend the boys in skirts?:confused:
ThePoint
11-11-2009, 07:13 PM
How would SP attack and defend the boys in skirts?:confused:
As far as I know, Eagles don't wear skirts and that's the only game we are focused on right now.:)
Cy Falls is no Langam Creek from last year :eek: - we need to be on our "A' game.
Bruig
11-11-2009, 07:28 PM
How's Cy Ridge's D-Line and LBackers? CP has a heck of an O-line, one of the best in 16-5A IMO.
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 07:28 PM
As far as I know, Eagles don't wear skirts and that's the only game we are focused on right now.:)
Cy Falls is no Langam Creek from last year :eek: - we need to be on our "A' game.
Falls' year doesn't come until next year or the year after. They are too young right now. I know SP is possibly going ALL the way THIS year. So their BIG challenge comes next week with the Woodlands. In my bracket challenge, I have them winning that game and moving on. Actually, I think I have them going to the state game and winning it. They can beat Woodlands. They have the physical play that they don't.
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 07:32 PM
How's Cy Ridge's D-Line and LBackers? CP has a heck of an O-line, one of the best in 16-5A IMO.
Depends on the injury report. If the starters are good to go, they are tough. Otherwise teams can take advantage of them, as Falls did, when Ridge's D was in injury mode.
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 07:55 PM
C-DUB!!! the famous one. you have no idea how confusing this thread has been with cy woods = c dub and you actually being c dub.
alright. westwood is a ball control offense to the max. they run the wildcat with princeton collins and their qb as a second attack mostly. you will not see much passing from them unless you stop collins... however, if you stop collins, you stop westwood.
i don't want to sound like a sell out, but since coaches are not searching through this site trying to learn how to beat each other, i can tell you the best way to beat westwood. the best way is to run a 4-3 Free Fire blitz THE WHOLE GAME. collins won't be able to do anything if you force him to the middle where your lbs meet up in this set up.
westwood likes running fake handoffs and counters off of the side of the RG/LG, but they rarely run straight up the middle. with a free fire blitz you can force him to the center, or tackle him for a loss. either way you can make him a non factor. then the quarterback will have to come in with fakes and what not, but a free fire blitz does not have any holes in it for the qb to scramble... so he will be stuck having to use his arm.
this is what stony point did to them, and westwod only had about 20 total yards rushing the whole game! when cedar park caught on to westwood's schemes and figured out how to stop them, they completely shut collins down and westwood couldn't do anything for the majority of the third and fourth quarters (even though it was already too late). westwood ended up with negative passing yards and less than 200 total yards... most of those yards came from the first half.
all in all, if you shut down westwood's run game, then you will win... but that might be a big IF because no team from 15-5A has seen westwood.
My son was part of the first graduating class and on the first varsity football
team last year. He was #40 in the program and #1 in my heart. The Woods student body would do this chant that would end in "C-DUB, You Know!! anyway, I made it my 5ATXFB handle. I love Cypress Woods High School.
cyfallsbooster2
11-11-2009, 08:03 PM
My son was part of the first graduating class and on the first varsity football
team last year. He was #40 in the program and #1 in my heart. The Woods student body would do this chant that would end in "C-DUB, You Know!! anyway, I made it my 5ATXFB handle. I love Cypress Woods High School.
And well you should.;)
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 08:09 PM
I wanted to send out a big thank you to my hero's.
The men and women who have served and are serving
in the United States Armed Forces.:notworthy
Thank You!!
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 08:19 PM
That was a fun game last year wasn't it? So many ups and downs in the last 2 minutes.
BTW, even more confusing for me is I am from Southern Brazoria County, and down there we call West Columbia Dub C.
C dub
Dub C
C Woods
'Wood
:confused::confused::confused:
:eek:
I will never forget it. We met some great Texas High School Football Fans
from Georgetown at the Dixie Chicken in Aggie Land. That Georgetown team
fought us tooth and nail.
cfisdbacker
11-11-2009, 09:14 PM
I wanted to send out a big thank you to my hero's.
The men and women who have served and are serving
in the United States Armed Forces.:notworthy
Thank You!!
CDUB - you say some good things ...... but this is among your best!!! CFISD salutes all that give (or gave) us the opportunity to do what we do. We are truly blessed!
STP FAN
11-11-2009, 10:48 PM
I just wanted to say congratulations to the High Schools in 15-5A and 16-5A District for making it here to the Bi-District games. Safe travels to those coming to the Austin Area to watch the games and Welcome to our home turf. ;)
And travel safely Leander and Westwood to the Houston area. Good luck to all the schools in their playoff rounds and for those of you who get the WIN to advance on...:notworthy
GOOOO POINT!
bobcatfan
11-11-2009, 10:49 PM
I wanted to send out a big thank you to my hero's.
The men and women who have served and are serving
in the United States Armed Forces.:notworthy
Thank You!!
:notworthy
Beanz
11-11-2009, 10:54 PM
My son was part of the first graduating class and on the first varsity football
team last year. He was #40 in the program and #1 in my heart. The Woods student body would do this chant that would end in "C-DUB, You Know!! anyway, I made it my 5ATXFB handle. I love Cypress Woods High School.
are you a coach or someone related to the football program?
bobcatfan
11-11-2009, 10:56 PM
I am somewhat baffled that Cy-Woods is flying under the radar with all of the prognosticators.:confused: I know C-Dub loves it, but this is one of the most complete teams on both sides of the ball in our District, and they can do some damage in the playoffs.
bobcatfan
11-11-2009, 11:00 PM
are you a coach or someone related to the football program?
No, he's a Bobcat Fan that got rezoned!:eek:
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 11:02 PM
are you a coach or someone related to the football program?
I'm just a Fan.:Music
gundyman
11-11-2009, 11:07 PM
I am somewhat baffled that Cy-Woods is flying under the radar with all of the prognosticators.:confused: I know C-Dub loves it, but this is one of the most complete teams on both sides of the ball in our District, and they can do some damage in the playoffs.
That's the way we like it...Fly under the radar and surprise some teams. Candidly, I think Westwood will be surprised at how athlectic Cy-Woods is...
bobcatfan
11-11-2009, 11:08 PM
I'm just a Bobcat Fan.:Music
fify:D
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 11:11 PM
No, he's a Bobcat Fan that got rezoned!:eek:
Yes, I have been blessed.:D
bobcatfan
11-11-2009, 11:27 PM
I'm just a Fan.:Music
Yes, I have been blessed.:D
:laugh Nice. But somehow I think he ended up as a Bobcat.:eek: It must be that entire circle of life thing.:D
C-DUB
11-11-2009, 11:34 PM
:laugh Nice. But somehow I think he ended up as a Bobcat.:eek: It must be that entire circle of life thing.:D
Put down the Jungle Juice and turn off Lion King.:eek:
cyfallsbooster2
11-12-2009, 08:48 AM
Its Thursday already!:Music Light practice day for the boys playing on Friday, just some final walk throughs and stretching. Tomorrow the playoffs begin!:Music:Music
Good luck to all the 15 and 16 teams! And for those of us traveling, be safe! And be sure to wave as we pass each other on 290!:D
C-DUB
11-12-2009, 09:03 AM
:laugh Nice. But somehow I think he ended up as a Bobcat.:eek: It must be that entire circle of life thing.:D
I get the C-Dumb Award again.:o I am a Bobcat Fan!:D
cfisdbacker
11-12-2009, 09:17 AM
Weekend predictions .... Playoff football - does it get any better than this!
Looks like a 15-5a sweep!
D-1: Stony Point vs Cy Falls - :D Upset special of the week - Falls beats SP in high scoring game with a field goal off the lime green shoe of it's place kicker in the closing seconds. 44-43
D-1: Westwood vs Cy Woods - Cy-Woods is primed for playoff action and will keeps its high powered offense rolling. The defense will contain Westwood running back and create turnovers. Special teams for Woods will also score. Woods win 42-21
D-2: Cedar Park vs Cy Ridge - Two physical teams playing each other. This will be a defensive struggle with Cy-Ridge winning 21-17
D-2: Leander vs Cy Creek - This will be a close game through the 1st half, but Creek big offense and defense lines take charge in the in the 2nd half - Creek wins 35-21
Good luck to ALL teams and may all play hard and finish the game healthy. Your communities are proud of you!
Safe travels to all the teams, bands, cheerleader, drill teams, and fans going back and forth on 290.
cyfallsbooster2
11-12-2009, 10:08 AM
I get the C-Dumb Award again.:o I am a Bobcat Fan!:D
Get him out of the house and you forget about him THIS quickly?:eek:
cyfallsbooster2
11-12-2009, 10:19 AM
Weekend predictions .... Playoff football - does it get any better than this!
Looks like a 15-5a sweep!
D-1: Stony Point vs Cy Falls - :D Upset special of the week - Falls beats SP in high scoring game with a field goal off the lime green shoe of it's place kicker in the closing seconds. 44-43
D-1: Westwood vs Cy Woods - Cy-Woods is primed for playoff action and will keeps its high powered offense rolling. The defense will contain Westwood running back and create turnovers. Special teams for Woods will also score. Woods win 42-21
D-2: Cedar Park vs Cy Ridge - Two physical teams playing each other. This will be a defensive struggle with Cy-Ridge winning 21-17
D-2: Leander vs Cy Creek - This will be a close game through the 1st half, but Creek big offense and defense lines take charge in the in the 2nd half - Creek wins 35-21
Good luck to ALL teams and may all play hard and finish the game healthy. Your communities are proud of you!
Safe travels to all the teams, bands, cheerleader, drill teams, and fans going back and forth on 290.
Wouldn't a sweep be special.:D However, I think the 165A schools are stronger this year than they even were last year. And I don't think we will have the element of surprise this time around. They have seen what our offenses can do in this district and will be prepared for it this time around. There is always a chance though.;)
RRSP1
11-12-2009, 10:23 AM
Weekend predictions .... Playoff football - does it get any better than this!
Looks like a 15-5a sweep!
D-1: Stony Point vs Cy Falls - :D Upset special of the week - Falls beats SP in high scoring game with a field goal off the lime green shoe of it's place kicker in the closing seconds. 44-43
D-1: Westwood vs Cy Woods - Cy-Woods is primed for playoff action and will keeps its high powered offense rolling. The defense will contain Westwood running back and create turnovers. Special teams for Woods will also score. Woods win 42-21
D-2: Cedar Park vs Cy Ridge - Two physical teams playing each other. This will be a defensive struggle with Cy-Ridge winning 21-17
D-2: Leander vs Cy Creek - This will be a close game through the 1st half, but Creek big offense and defense lines take charge in the in the 2nd half - Creek wins 35-21
Good luck to ALL teams and may all play hard and finish the game healthy. Your communities are proud of you!
Safe travels to all the teams, bands, cheerleader, drill teams, and fans going back and forth on 290.
If Cy-Falls were to pull off that score, they could certainly be very proud. Chessher's teams have given up 40+ only four times since he became HC in 2004, and only once in the last 42 games.
Safe travels to all!
Point Made...
11-12-2009, 10:24 AM
I am somewhat baffled that Cy-Woods is flying under the radar with all of the prognosticators.:confused: I know C-Dub loves it, but this is one of the most complete teams on both sides of the ball in our District, and they can do some damage in the playoffs.
We were under the same radar last year...then through the playoffs, we started making alot more noise...Sometimes it's better to be heard than seen...:D
LeanderLions3033
11-12-2009, 10:29 AM
Wouldn't a sweep be special.:D However, I think the 165A schools are stronger this year than they even were last year. And I don't think we will have the element of surprise this time around. They have seen what our offenses can do in this district and will be prepared for it this time around. There is always a chance though.;)
I dont wanna take anything away from what you guys did last year, but outside of SP the district was VERY down last year. The year before we had all 4 teams from our district (besides SP) go at least 3 rounds deep in the playoffs with Leander losing to Longview, Round Rock losing to Allen in the 4th round and Pville losing to Katy in the state championship. This year looked like it might be a down year for the district at the beginning of the year, but after seeing all 4 teams that made the playoffs this year, it won't be anything like what we did 2 and 3 years ago but it will be a bigtime feat if 15-5a pulled off the sweep this year.
ThePoint
11-12-2009, 11:58 AM
Falls' year doesn't come until next year or the year after. They are too young right now. I know SP is possibly going ALL the way THIS year. So their BIG challenge comes next week with the Woodlands. In my bracket challenge, I have them winning that game and moving on. Actually, I think I have them going to the state game and winning it. They can beat Woodlands. They have the physical play that they don't.
I appreciate your confidence and we honestly have the talent to go a long way. We have had a huge target on our back all year (thanks mostly to the polls and last years success) and we have not dealt with it really well (still 9-1, but could have played much more focused). I am really hoping that somewhere there is a switch that the boys flip now and say - this is what we've been waiting for - the playoffs - time to prove it on the field, etc, etc. I guess we will see if that "switch" exists starting Friday night.
I know for the Dallas Cowboys last year - the switch didn't work and that is my fear with this team.
On a side note - sTp really feels like next year is their big year from a talent and size standpoint. Most of the key players on offense are Jr's, although we will lose quite a few Sr's on Defense. I guess the magic comes when you have a year when both offense and defense peak during the same year. Last year it was a strong offense with a younger defense.
Look forward to seeing you at the Palace.
gundyman
11-12-2009, 12:04 PM
I dont wanna take anything away from what you guys did last year, but outside of SP the district was VERY down last year. The year before we had all 4 teams from our district (besides SP) go at least 3 rounds deep in the playoffs with Leander losing to Longview, Round Rock losing to Allen in the 4th round and Pville losing to Katy in the state championship. This year looked like it might be a down year for the district at the beginning of the year, but after seeing all 4 teams that made the playoffs this year, it won't be anything like what we did 2 and 3 years ago but it will be a bigtime feat if 15-5a pulled off the sweep this year.
As a 15-5a supporter I like CFISDBACKER's enthusiasum, but I suspect a split is more likely. End of the day, it doesn't matter what we think, nor what anyone thinks (aside from the players), performance matters. It is kind of fun to speculate about. Most of us don't know enough to make a good informed decision about the games. I certainly don't, that's why I have not made a specific prognostication (that and I don't want to eat crow if I'm wrong!).
cyfallsbooster2
11-12-2009, 12:04 PM
I appreciate your confidence and we honestly have the talent to go a long way. We have had a huge target on our back all year (thanks mostly to the polls and last years success) and we have not dealt with it really well (still 9-1, but could have played much more focused). I am really hoping that somewhere there is a switch that the boys flip now and say - this is what we've been waiting for - the playoffs - time to prove it on the field, etc, etc. I guess we will see if that "switch" exists starting Friday night.
I know for the Dallas Cowboys last year - the switch didn't work and that is my fear with this team.
On a side note - sTp really feels like next year is their big year from a talent and size standpoint. Most of the key players on offense are Jr's, although we will lose quite a few Sr's on Defense. I guess the magic comes when you have a year when both offense and defense peak during the same year. Last year it was a strong offense with a younger defense.
Look forward to seeing you at the Palace.
Dang 17 year old kids!:D
ThePoint
11-12-2009, 12:34 PM
Dang 17 year old kids!:D
After thinking about it - probably lots of people could say the same about their team. :D Oh Well.
One thing that will help is that it seems we are getting healthier at the right time as well, getting some of our starters back from pre and mid season injuries, but the danger is whether or not it will disupt the rhythm like it did vs Cedar Park (three of five O line were in new positions).
Hopefully a good strong week of practice will alleviate this issue.
I really am looking forward to the game and the Eagles wide open offense- I'm sure it will be fun to watch!:)
I listened to part of your last game vs woods - really impressive passing and mix in of running. Despite the high score, it sounded like the D really stepped up at the end! :notworthy
lefty01
11-12-2009, 12:38 PM
I do think what we really have going is the consensus is 16-5A seems to view their district as more competitive than ours. I really, don't think many have a district that just out does ours in term of competition. There were a lot of pick em' type games this yr.
SP Tiger Backer
11-12-2009, 01:03 PM
I appreciate your confidence and we honestly have the talent to go a long way. We have had a huge target on our back all year (thanks mostly to the polls and last years success) and we have not dealt with it really well (still 9-1, but could have played much more focused). I am really hoping that somewhere there is a switch that the boys flip now and say - this is what we've been waiting for - the playoffs - time to prove it on the field, etc, etc. I guess we will see if that "switch" exists starting Friday night.
I know for the Dallas Cowboys last year - the switch didn't work and that is my fear with this team.
On a side note - sTp really feels like next year is their big year from a talent and size standpoint. Most of the key players on offense are Jr's, although we will lose quite a few Sr's on Defense. I guess the magic comes when you have a year when both offense and defense peak during the same year. Last year it was a strong offense with a younger defense.
Look forward to seeing you at the Palace.
BINGO!! In last week's game against RR there were very few penalties. Maybe two against SP? That was promising. Now lets hope that carries through with a double dose of the fire of desire.
cyfallsbooster2
11-12-2009, 01:10 PM
After thinking about it - probably lots of people could say the same about their team. :D Oh Well.
One thing that will help is that it seems we are getting healthier at the right time as well, getting some of our starters back from pre and mid season injuries, but the danger is whether or not it will disupt the rhythm like it did vs Cedar Park (three of five O line were in new positions).
Hopefully a good strong week of practice will alleviate this issue.
I really am looking forward to the game and the Eagles wide open offense- I'm sure it will be fun to watch!:)
I listened to part of your last game vs woods - really impressive passing and mix in of running. Despite the high score, it sounded like the D really stepped up at the end! :notworthy
That really helps with the po run. In 2006 Falls finished the regular season with a 6-4 record (I believe) due to several injuries. But, they all were heathly when the po's started. From there, they made a pretty good run.:D
The defense in the Woods' game had their best game of the year in my opinion which they had to do just to try and slow the potent Woods offense down just a little. At the end, yes they did turn it up even more and came up with 2 BIG stops to get things going Falls' way.:notworthy
smw358
11-12-2009, 01:12 PM
i did not say that collins will always break tackles i said he CAN break tackles. does anyone play defense in 15-5A? who has the best points against average over there?
No. We skip that part of the game because it is so boring.
Don't you know..........the quicker they (15-5A) let you score......the quicker they (15-5A) can score..........:D It works out in the end.....you know it's a numbers thingy.......:rolleyes:
cyfallsbooster2
11-12-2009, 01:15 PM
Don't you know..........the quicker they (15-5A) let you score......the quicker they (15-5A) can score..........:D It works out in the end.....you know it's a numbers thingy.......:rolleyes:
Yeah. If you let the other team grind out the clock you don't get as many touches on offense. So we all run different variations of the ole' defensive scheme.:D:ninja:
twolf5
11-12-2009, 01:40 PM
I do think what we really have going is the consensus is 16-5A seems to view their district as more competitive than ours. I really, don't think many have a district that just out does ours in term of competition. There were a lot of pick em' type games this yr.
I don't see anyone saying that at all. Where do you get that from?
twolf5
11-12-2009, 01:45 PM
Yeah. If you let the other team grind out the clock you don't get as many touches on offense. So we all run different variations of the ole' defensive scheme.:D:ninja:
That's going to be a big factor in our game with Ridge. Over the last two games opposing offenses had less than 45 plays per game against our D and less than 200 yards total offense. Attributed to two things. Us having the ball 80 snaps on offense for 450 yards, and our D being pretty good.
Can't we just play this tonight? I'm ready!!!!!:cool:
cyfallsbooster2
11-12-2009, 01:52 PM
That's going to be a big factor in our game with Ridge. Over the last two games opposing offenses had less than 45 plays per game against our D and less than 200 yards total offense. Attributed to two things. Us having the ball 80 snaps on offense for 450 yards, and our D being pretty good.
Can't we just play this tonight? I'm ready!!!!!:cool:
Ridge does not have a Sheppard or Lipscum this year so they are not quite as explosive as last year. But, if their defense is healthy enough, they can be a tough game.
twolf5
11-12-2009, 01:58 PM
OK I'm going to handicap the games like this.
Cedar Park -10 over Ridge
Cy Creek -3 over Leander
Cy Wood -10 over Westwood
Stony Point -14 over Falls
Meet you back here Saturday night and we'll see what happens. I can't wait for these matchups. There will be some exciting football tomorrow and Saturday.
ThePoint
11-12-2009, 02:28 PM
OK I'm going to handicap the games like this.
Cedar Park -10 over Ridge
Cy Creek -3 over Leander
Cy Wood -10 over Westwood
Stony Point -14 over Falls
Meet you back here Saturday night and we'll see what happens. I can't wait for these matchups. There will be some exciting football tomorrow and Saturday.
I think these are pretty close (I hope your right about sTp especially:D).
I noticed that 2 of the three site administrators picked WW over CyW:confused:.
I wonder what they know that we don't (no offense to my RRISD friends:)).
Since I have only seen WW I can only go by district rankings and some stat's - but I would have expected the admin's to lean towards CyW.
Perhaps the speed of WW and supposedly a better "D" is expected to create problems?
C-DUB
11-12-2009, 02:44 PM
I think these are pretty close (I hope your right about sTp especially:D).
I noticed that 2 of the three site administrators picked WW over CyW:confused:.
I wonder what they know that we don't (no offense to my RRISD friends:)).
Since I have only seen WW I can only go by district rankings and some stat's - but I would have expected the admin's to lean towards CyW.
Perhaps the speed of WW and supposedly a better "D" is expected to create problems?
The admin's are anti-Cy teams.:D We probably dropped in the polls since
we let Falls in the playoff. lol!! trolling!! trolling!!:ninja:
conspiring to keep the brothers down.
LION57
11-12-2009, 03:12 PM
OK I'm going to handicap the games like this.
Cedar Park -10 over Ridge
Cy Creek -3 over Leander
Cy Wood -10 over Westwood
Stony Point -14 over Falls
Meet you back here Saturday night and we'll see what happens. I can't wait for these matchups. There will be some exciting football tomorrow and Saturday.
I sure hope that one tilts the other way. Either way should be a great game. I think that we will have a few suprises up our sleeves.;)
twolf5
11-12-2009, 03:24 PM
I sure hope that one tilts the other way. Either way should be a great game. I think that we will have a few suprises up our sleeves.;)
I watched our game against Creek last year and your defense is SOOOOO much better than what we played them with last year. We had so many missed tackles and zero pass rush all night. We had a totally makeshift defensive line. Ya'll won't have that this year. I won't be shocked one bit if you win.
cfisdbacker
11-12-2009, 03:43 PM
As a 15-5a supporter I like CFISDBACKER's enthusiasum, but I suspect a split is more likely. End of the day, it doesn't matter what we think, nor what anyone thinks (aside from the players), performance matters. It is kind of fun to speculate about. Most of us don't know enough to make a good informed decision about the games. I certainly don't, that's why I have not made a specific prognostication (that and I don't want to eat crow if I'm wrong!).
I am hoping for a sweep of course - but realize it most likely will not happen either way. CFISD know they are playing some great teams with great traditions and look forward to the challenge.
Beanz
11-12-2009, 04:22 PM
OK I'm going to handicap the games like this.
Cedar Park -10 over Ridge
Cy Creek -3 over Leander
Cy Wood -10 over Westwood
Stony Point -14 over Falls
Meet you back here Saturday night and we'll see what happens. I can't wait for these matchups. There will be some exciting football tomorrow and Saturday.
here's mine... just don't get upset. i am simply being honest.
Cedar Park: 28 CY Ridge: 17
Leander: 24 Cy Creek: 35
Westwood: 21 Cy Woods: 31
Stony Point: 42 Cy Falls: 10
i am basing these pics off of what i understand between each team's strengths and weaknesses.
15-5A people. the ridge and falls scores are not meant to be insulting.
i feel that cedar park will eat the clock and score once a quarter, forcing either a couple turnovers or a couple stops in order to contain cy ridge under 20.
as far as stony point goes, they are stingy when it comes to allowing points, and their secondary has sticky fingers. their defense is very hard to overcome on the ground or through the air, while their offense is loaded with talent that no one has fully contained. even cedar park had some mismatches that could have given sp 6 if sp did not have so many false starts.
16-5A people. do not get upset that i chose woods and creek over westwood and leander.
cy creek has a high powered offense this year much like last. the difference is, all the playmakers (except qb austin pugliese) are still present from last year... and now they are older. leander's defense is strong, but if cy creek poses any o line threat (much like cedar park did), then leander will have to quickly adjust to it and contain the clock better than they did on cedar park. to be fair, i only gave cy creek one td per quarter and then another one for turnovers or an unexpected "big play" that they are certainly capable of achieving. leander will have to pass a lot more efficiently than they did against cedar park to keep up with cy creek, and frankly i do not see that happening.
westwood is too one dimensional to rack up many points on cy woods. if cy woods contains collins, then this will be a long game for westwood (much like the stony point game). overall, i gave westwood 3 touchdowns. i feel that princeton collins will suffice for two and then westwood will have to pass or qb sneak their way in for the third. it should be close up until the fourth quarter.
all in all, i obviously want a 4-0 streak for 16-5A, but i have a hard time seeing that happen.
cyfallsbooster2
11-12-2009, 04:55 PM
The admin's are anti-Cy teams.:D We probably dropped in the polls since
we let Falls in the playoff. lol!! trolling!! trolling!!:ninja:
conspiring to keep the brothers down.
:D
We's in and that's all that counts.
STP FAN
11-12-2009, 05:48 PM
Do you people not work??? HAHAHA I see post on here from all day...no matter what hour.....:p
Just Kidding! Love reading the blogs:rolleyes:
cfisdbacker
11-12-2009, 06:33 PM
Do you people not work??? HAHAHA I see post on here from all day...no matter what hour.....:p
Just Kidding! Love reading the blogs:rolleyes:
Actually I had a very successful day - thanks for asking!
The weekend starts now! If any of the Houston guys/gals want to meet at a local establishment and drink a beer and talk HS football later tonight - let me know, I am buying!
Beanz
11-12-2009, 06:44 PM
Do you people not work??? HAHAHA I see post on here from all day...no matter what hour.....:p
Just Kidding! Love reading the blogs:rolleyes:
work from home... today was absolutely awesomely successful for me as well. why isn't today friday???
STP FAN
11-12-2009, 07:01 PM
work from home... today was absolutely awesomely successful for me as well. why isn't today friday???
I have been asking that alllllll day Myself.
STP FAN
11-12-2009, 07:06 PM
Actually I had a very successful day - thanks for asking!
The weekend starts now! If any of the Houston guys/gals want to meet at a local establishment and drink a beer and talk HS football later tonight - let me know, I am buying!
Drink one for me. I can't make it to Houston that fast!
cyfallsbooster2
11-12-2009, 07:06 PM
Do you people not work??? HAHAHA I see post on here from all day...no matter what hour.....:p
Just Kidding! Love reading the blogs:rolleyes:
Shhhhhh! Don't let our bosses know! oh wait! They have that internet monitoring thing going! Better watch it.:ninja:
cyfallsbooster2
11-12-2009, 07:10 PM
Life is going to be good after tomorrow night.:D
Leather Head
11-12-2009, 07:31 PM
Life is going to be good after tomorrow night.:D
Now come on.....life is good now.......and it will be good Saturday win or lose.....let's all find our centers, now, shall we? Breath in the wisdom of the ages, press the floor away from you as you exhale, chanting Heeeooooohaaaaaooooo (repeat as necessary).
cyfallsbooster2
11-12-2009, 07:35 PM
Now come on.....life is good now.......and it will be good Saturday win or lose.....let's all find our centers, now, shall we? Breath in the wisdom of the ages, press the floor away from you as you exhale, chanting Heeeooooohaaaaaooooo (repeat as necessary).
:laugh
I am good now.:cool:
Beanz
11-12-2009, 07:40 PM
Now come on.....life is good now.......and it will be good Saturday win or lose.....let's all find our centers, now, shall we? Breath in the wisdom of the ages, press the floor away from you as you exhale, chanting Heeeooooohaaaaaooooo (repeat as necessary).
oooohhhh you're supposed to repeat! now i get it. hahaha
inhale. shout for your team. exhale.
inhale. shout for your team. exhale.
CyCreekDiverMom
11-12-2009, 09:35 PM
I watched our game against Creek last year and your defense is SOOOOO much better than what we played them with last year. We had so many missed tackles and zero pass rush all night. We had a totally makeshift defensive line. Ya'll won't have that this year. I won't be shocked one bit if you win.
The thing is...Our defense is also much improved from last year!!!
bobcatfan
11-12-2009, 09:54 PM
Actually I had a very successful day - thanks for asking!
The weekend starts now! If any of the Houston guys/gals want to meet at a local establishment and drink a beer and talk HS football later tonight - let me know, I am buying!
I'm out of town this weekend, but next week you are buying me a beer Backer. And yes, Creek will be playing next week.:eek:
CyCreekDiverMom
11-12-2009, 10:07 PM
I'm out of town this weekend, but next week you are buying me a beer Backer. And yes, Creek will be playing next week.:eek:
So Backer...buy me a Marg at the Del after the win. Hubby's out of tomorrow tomorrow so I'm on my own. LOL!!!
Beanz
11-12-2009, 10:39 PM
So Backer...buy me a Marg at the Del after the win. Hubby's out of tomorrow tomorrow so I'm on my own. LOL!!!
whoa now!... there will be no drinking and driving DriverMom ;)
cfisdbacker
11-13-2009, 12:21 AM
I'm out of town this weekend, but next week you are buying me a beer Backer. And yes, Creek will be playing next week.:eek:
Ok Snappy - sounds good to me!!
cfisdbacker
11-13-2009, 12:38 AM
So Backer...buy me a Marg at the Del after the win. Hubby's out of tomorrow tomorrow so I'm on my own. LOL!!!
Kind of a cool Cy-Creek thing ...... after every game - it happenned when we were 0-8 in district or 8-0 in district ......hundreds of Cougar fans gather after the game at Del Pueblo. The players come into the restaurant after the game and get cheered and standing ovations. The ENTIRE restaurant is Cy-Creek colors! All the staff have Cy-Creek teeshirts on . A great community deal. We talk about the game amomgst ourselves and the players and with the coaches when they show up.
Go Creek! Good luck to all teams that play
twolf5
11-13-2009, 08:29 AM
Game day, no more posting for me. Good luck to all the teams today and tomorrow. Safe travel, play hard and stay healthy!
See you on the other side......:notworthy
bobcatfan
11-13-2009, 08:35 AM
ok snappy - sounds good to me!!
:d
cyfallsbooster2
11-13-2009, 09:07 AM
Go! Fight! Win!
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