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svhorns
11-05-2009, 03:29 PM
Did something bad happen there today? I'm at work and I was just reading another message board and they said something happened but no one had responded.
ChanSHS
11-05-2009, 03:32 PM
Shooting. 7 dead. That's pretty much it.
ExCOOG88
11-05-2009, 03:34 PM
Yeah a shooting, 7 dead 20 injured. One gunman in custody, second on the loose and possibly a third. All i have read so far.
pied
11-05-2009, 03:37 PM
Hope for a quick ending amd prayers to those affecetd.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/05/texas.fort.hood.shootings/index.html
ExCOOG88
11-05-2009, 03:38 PM
Got a call from a buddy of mine on the base. Evidently there are three idiots running through the base shooting people.
LoboFan07
11-05-2009, 03:41 PM
Good Lord. WTF.
SLC
11-05-2009, 03:43 PM
Good Lord. WTF.



That.



Prayers to the families of those affected.
svhorns
11-05-2009, 03:50 PM
Looked around a little bit. Apparently it's 3 guys... and the 3rd gunman has been shooting at swat. WTF.
LoboFan07
11-05-2009, 03:50 PM
FBI on the scene according to Fox News. 3rd shooter still shooting?

Hope everyone can stay safe down there. Get this thing over with quickly.
Favpack
11-05-2009, 04:03 PM
Killeen ISD in lock-down mode.
JagFan
11-05-2009, 04:48 PM
Prayers to Fort Hood and the families.
CCHS77
11-05-2009, 04:49 PM
Now reported that there are 12 dead, including (?) one gunman dead. 31 wounded
Owned05
11-05-2009, 04:51 PM
Wow. How did this happen?

Prayers go out to those effected.
DragonFan0316
11-05-2009, 05:17 PM
May God be with those in need. Bad news.
mojotrain
11-05-2009, 06:20 PM
Wow. How did this happen?

Prayers go out to those effected.

How? The key word here may be indifference.:(
Dawg Fan
11-05-2009, 06:27 PM
Heard on Fox news that they confirmed the dead shooter's name and what do you know....it is a middle eastern name:eek::Censor:.....they have detained two others for questioning and if they find out they were also involved I say get a rope!
BDB
11-05-2009, 06:30 PM
well.... i was gonna ask who was dumb enough to go postal at an army base.
Dawg Fan
11-05-2009, 06:32 PM
I am wondering how long until we hear that it was Bush's fault.
twcpfan1
11-05-2009, 06:33 PM
Heard on Fox news that they confirmed the dead shooter's name and what do you know....it is a middle eastern name:eek::Censor:.....they have detained two others for questioning and if they find out they were also involved I say get a rope!

What's the name?
pied
11-05-2009, 06:34 PM
I would recommend easing off the politics/humor for a bit. Being in Texas, and the location it's not unlikely that there may be personal knowledge of one or more of the victims.
Dawg Fan
11-05-2009, 06:34 PM
What's the name?

watch the news, they will tell you
Dawg Fan
11-05-2009, 06:35 PM
I would recommend easing off the politics/humor for a bit. Being in Texas, and the location it's not unlikely that there may be personal knowledge of one or more of the victims.

no humor intended
twcpfan1
11-05-2009, 06:36 PM
watch the news, they will tell you

I was just curious whether they said it was middle eastern or did it just sound middle eastern to you? Just a straight up question. No hidden meaning to it.
Dawg Fan
11-05-2009, 06:40 PM
I was just curious whether they said it was middle eastern or did it just sound middle eastern to you? Just a straight up question. No hidden meaning to it.

no it was very middle eastern sounding but they won't say where he was originally from just yet. I couldn't tell you exactly what the name was besides the fact it was three names ....
rwilleby
11-05-2009, 06:40 PM
Malik Hidal Hasan
F18mustang
11-05-2009, 06:42 PM
Malik Hidal Hasan

I believe the middle name was Nadal.

Honestly, the name sounds more Indian than anything else.
twcpfan1
11-05-2009, 06:42 PM
no it was very middle eastern sounding but they won't say where he was originally from just yet. I couldn't tell you exactly what the name was besides the fact it was three names ....

Dawg. it was also one of the first thoughts I had when I first heard about the incident. 'I wonder if the shooter was Arab'
JagFan
11-05-2009, 06:43 PM
I would recommend easing off the politics/humor for a bit. Being in Texas, and the location it's not unlikely that there may be personal knowledge of one or more of the victims.

+1 Let's just mourn/pray with the families until the facts are in. Still lot's of investigating to do.
twcpfan1
11-05-2009, 06:44 PM
I believe the middle name was Nadal.

Honestly, the name sounds more Indian than anything else.


Maybe you meant Pakistani.
F18mustang
11-05-2009, 06:45 PM
Maybe you meant Pakistani.

Maybe. I'm not an expert on toponomy or genealogy.
twcpfan1
11-05-2009, 06:49 PM
Maybe. I'm not an expert on toponomy or genealogy.

Neither am I. Just grew up watching International Cricket. Most who do have a feel for the difference between Indian and Pakistani names. If this was politically motivated there's a better chance the perpetrator was Pakistani rather than Indian anyway.
SeguinMatadors
11-05-2009, 06:51 PM
Really sad. I hear he was a mental health professional too. Which is odd.

I hope no one here is closely connected to anything. A girl I am dating is a VaTech grad and was there when everything went down over there. And she is clearly still deeply affected by that day. Wouldnt wish that upon anyone. Super sad stuff.
BDB
11-05-2009, 06:55 PM
Maybe you meant Pakistani.

which would make it even more likely that the shooter had ties to an islamic terror organization.
twcpfan1
11-05-2009, 06:56 PM
which would make it even more likely that the shooter had ties to an islamic terror organization.

Yes that was my point too.

see post 31
BDB
11-05-2009, 06:58 PM
if this was a terrorist plot....what did they gain from it?

too many questions.
twcpfan1
11-05-2009, 06:59 PM
If the shooting is deemed as a terrorist act perpetrated by Islamic extremists, this could make life very tough for Arab and Islamic Americans in the Military.
BDB
11-05-2009, 07:01 PM
If the shooting is deemed as a terrorist act perpetrated by Islamic extremists, this could make life very tough for Arab and Islamic Americans in the Military.

again.
mojotrain
11-05-2009, 07:11 PM
Malik Hidal Hasan

I don't think he started life with this name. I believe he took it on later in life.
yankee
11-05-2009, 07:13 PM
what a tragic story. whenever these things happen, i get a pit in my stomach the rest of the day. this sucks....:o:mad: RIP to everyone who died.
rwilleby
11-05-2009, 07:16 PM
I believe the middle name was Nadal.

Honestly, the name sounds more Indian than anything else.

Yes, you are correct... Typo... Fingers bigger than buttons...
tayb
11-05-2009, 07:20 PM
I read that he was upset about being deployed again to Iraq.

Prayers go out to everyone involved. How does a man go so wrong.
rwilleby
11-05-2009, 07:21 PM
Converted to Islam... Interview on fox says he was vocal about our participation in Iraq... Just reported...
svhorns
11-05-2009, 07:25 PM
Born and raised in the United States. Has always been a muslim.
rwilleby
11-05-2009, 07:28 PM
Yes, they just confined that with his cousin on fox...
mojotrain
11-05-2009, 07:31 PM
Born and raised in the United States. Has always been a muslim.

I just heard this in a interview with a cousin of his. He had evidently been trying to get out of the military since before a transfer from Walter Reed to Fort Hood last May. That brings to question how could he not get out of the military?.
BDB
11-05-2009, 07:34 PM
I just heard this in a interview with a cousin of his. He had evidently been trying to get out of the military since before a transfer from Walter Reed to Fort Hood last May. That brings to question how could he not get out of the military?.

this.
svhorns
11-05-2009, 07:40 PM
I'm getting the feeling that this dude just came off his rocker and didn't want to get deployed. I don't think this has anything to do with any terrorists groups.
svhorns
11-05-2009, 07:41 PM
I read that he was upset about being deployed again to Iraq.

Prayers go out to everyone involved. How does a man go so wrong.

He had never been deployed to Iraq.
mojotrain
11-05-2009, 09:19 PM
The shooter isn't dead. Injured and stable.
F18mustang
11-05-2009, 09:25 PM
The shooter isn't dead. Injured and stable.

There is a special place in hell........
svhorns
11-05-2009, 09:30 PM
There is a special place in hell........

I agree send him to Lubbock.
F18mustang
11-05-2009, 09:31 PM
I agree send him to Lubbock.

I referred to a special place. Therefore special place:Lubbock as Hell:Texas.

Fail.
svhorns
11-05-2009, 09:32 PM
I referred to a special place. Therefore special place:Lubbock as Hell:Texas.

Fail.

You win.
CoveMom
11-05-2009, 09:44 PM
He had evidently been trying to get out of the military since before a transfer from Walter Reed to Fort Hood last May. That brings to question how could he not get out of the military?.

He could get out of the military. Just pay back the medical school costs that the US Government put out for him. His agreed upon term of service was not up so that is the only way to get out of the obligation.
mojotrain
11-05-2009, 10:00 PM
It's reported he was transfered to Hood because of poor performance at Walter Reed. Looks like red flags were all over the place.
BDB
11-05-2009, 10:47 PM
what a poonani.

this went from a possible terror threat to an aggravated pos with no brain. what a ***** move.
thestud
11-05-2009, 11:05 PM
ok so the dirtbag is alive after all...and will be tried in federal court, which i believe does not have the death penalty. i hope to god someone blows his effing brains out on the courthouse steps, i really do. :Censor:
cougmantx
11-05-2009, 11:29 PM
I talked to my nephew there. He's a Sargent Major and said it was a little wild for a bit. His wife works at Darnel which is the hospital on post and they were still ub lock down but he said she told him that casualties were come in fast and furious.

I lived there for 5 years just out side the main gate...I hate hearing of this crap on an Army post.

God bless our troops!
cougmantx
11-05-2009, 11:32 PM
He could get out of the military. Just pay back the medical school costs that the US Government put out for him. His agreed upon term of service was not up so that is the only way to get out of the obligation.

Covemom, I have to disagree, in certain MOS they will keep you until your commitment is fullfilled. His being in the medical field, I doubt they would let him out until he had done his time...He had offered and the Army said, finish what you commited to, as they should have.
CoveMom
11-06-2009, 11:11 AM
Covemom, I have to disagree, in certain MOS they will keep you until your commitment is fullfilled. His being in the medical field, I doubt they would let him out until he had done his time...He had offered and the Army said, finish what you commited to, as they should have.

Okay. I think when you combine what I said with your last sentence we are saying the same things, with a small (but significant) difference. ANYONE can get out for "valid" reasons and his opposition to the war coupled with his religion, his previous written words, etc., would have been enough if it were not for the enormous amount of money spent to train him as a Medical Doctor specializing in Psychiatry.

It was probably a mistake to put him on deployment status (no kidding) but apparently the red flags raised in Washington were not communicated to Fort Hood. His supervisor at Fort Hood said he did his job well and that he was not aware of any previous issues. Maybe that is a smokescreen for now, but until proven otherwise I will take the Colonel at his word.

This is tragic all the way around. It is a sad day in Central Texas.