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lonny23
11-03-2009, 06:51 PM
Guys and gals,

I wanted to take a survey to gather your opinions on how fast you'd drive if there wasn't a speed limit to worry about. My premise is you'd have a road with enough lanes and we're talking about ideal driving conditions with decent weather and stuff like that.

I have several theories on this subject, but want your opinion:

1. I don't think more than 10-15% would drive over 80 even if they could.

2. I think the cautious SUV/minivan types would drive less if they knew faster drivers were going to be out there. Those vehicles and motorcycles irritate me the most of all drivers. I love the European car drivers because they're simple. "Let me drive by you and be on my way!"

3. I definitely think the people who hog the left lane now would be staying out of the way if they knew somebody was coming like a freight train. They sure wouldn't be taking leisurely strolls to pass people and move back over, either!:D I bet that would make them look in the rearview mirror more often.

4. I'm a firm believer that driving fast is not the #1 culprit for safety. I think people getting mad and impatient at the slow jerks on the road and doing something stupid is the biggest problem. I get tired of hearing about the evil people who have road rage and nobody ever talks about the jerks who won't get over or people like the morons I see more and more who speed up as I'm passing them.

Anyway, vote on your speed of choice and not what your vehicle will do right now. I'm one of the "As fast as my vehicle will reasonably do" type of guys.

F18mustang
11-03-2009, 06:53 PM
I drive a truck and I usually stay within 5 over the limit. Ill go faster on roads that I don't usually see cops on.

twcpfan1
11-03-2009, 06:53 PM
As fast as a middle aged Asian Lady 'tearing' up I-45.

Favpack
11-03-2009, 06:54 PM
Question back for you? Is the beemer fixed?

I would like to drive 80. Any faster on Texas roads is not safe - so I vote 80. I think my car does 80 fairly well.

lonny23
11-03-2009, 06:55 PM
I drive a truck and I usually stay within 5 over the limit. Ill go faster on roads that I don't usually see cops on.My poll is for no speed limit.

F18mustang
11-03-2009, 06:56 PM
My poll is for no speed limit.

Thats what you get for making long posts asking a simple question to lazy posters. ;):D

Favpack
11-03-2009, 07:00 PM
Thats what you get for making long posts asking a simple question to lazy posters. ;):D

Is you for no speeds limit - votes yeah or naw.

Naw.

DEL VALLE
11-03-2009, 07:17 PM
I drive fast anyway, so 85-90 is good for me.

GTown02
11-03-2009, 07:22 PM
If there is some congestion I would probably keep it around 80-85. In those places where there were fewer obstacles in the way I would probably crank it to 100+ easily. Seeing how most of the time 100+ isn't safe, I voted for 80-90.

lonny23
11-03-2009, 07:25 PM
Question back for you? Is the beemer fixed?

I would like to drive 80. Any faster on Texas roads is not safe - so I vote 80. I think my car does 80 fairly well.
No, I'll get it fixed next year after I get back from my deployment. I've checked on a few engine auctions and was going to try to win a couple, but one auction went higher than I wanted to pay and my internet connection was bad on another one.

There's another side to my logic, too. I travel a lot and enjoy many activities, but I work for DoD and that fact alone makes my decisions operate out of fear for lack of a better word. I'm talking about stuff like:

1. I would've gone to the 2007 NHL All-Star Game, but I found out a month ahead of time I would deploy.

2. I would've gone to the 2005 World Series, but I was deployed.

3. I would've gone to the 2010 NBA All-Star Game, but I'll be deployed.

4. I would've given strong consideration to go to the Olympics in Vancouver, but I'll be deployed.

5. I left Korea the year before the World Cup because I knew they wouldn't let me stay another year.

6. I worked like crazy to cover all the stuff in the locations where I've been stationed because I've never known how long I would stay in Texas or Delaware before getting an assignment (I knew for Alaska and Korea, but the time limits also put a priority on me traveling).

7. Even now, I found out recently that the authorization to have me here went away, but that doesn't mean I'm leaving, but I might once I return to town. When it comes time to deploy, we get anywhere from a few days to sometimes several months before we know. It leads to a lot of uncertainty and "Strike while the iron is hot" mentality.

Saying all that, I had a choice to make when I broke the car. I could either do nothing and save my money to get it fixed, even to the point of ending my vacation early or I could go about my business and fix the car later on. My choice was to wipe out most of my "Bucket List" of things before I deploy and at the end of the year, I'm going to do a thread about 2009 because it will truly go down as my funnest year on earth. I've seen (And am still seeing) a slew of sports events and will have traveled to 4 Canadian Provinces and at least 30 states just in 2009 (At least 4 more strong maybes in December) and many will be places that I went to a couple times or more.

CCDawgs
11-03-2009, 07:31 PM
Depends on the roads.

If its a highway, an easy 90.

But these back roads around here, 60 to 65 is already dangerous.

Mong Hu
11-03-2009, 07:45 PM
I am not a fast driver. I tend to be pretty laid back. 75 -80 is more than fast enough for me on a regular day in my truck (Don't worry lonny I don't ride in the left lane). That being said when I was in college I took my Dad's Mustang GT out to see if I could peg the spedo which topped out at 135. I have no idea how fast I was going but I can say that the old 5 liter easily did all of that 135 and kept right on going. I can also say that at those speeds roads that seemed smooth at 45-65 turned out to have some significant bumps in them. :D I can also say that breaks don't work quite the same at those kinds of speeds. Lucky I lived through that one.

CCDawgs
11-03-2009, 07:55 PM
I am not a fast driver. I tend to be pretty laid back. 75 -80 is more than fast enough for me on a regular day in my truck (Don't worry lonny I don't ride in the left lane). That being said when I was in college I took my Dad's Mustang GT out to see if I could peg the spedo which topped out at 135. I have no idea how fast I was going but I can say that the old 5 liter easily did all of that 135 and kept right on going. I can also say that at those speeds roads that seemed smooth at 45-65 turned out to have some significant bumps in them. :D I can also say that breaks don't work quite the same at those kinds of speeds. Lucky I lived through that one.

That reminds me of a time my buddy let me drive his Dads Audi. I got up to 120 but the scary part was that I did it through road construction. :eek:

lonny23
11-03-2009, 08:24 PM
I am not a fast driver. I tend to be pretty laid back. 75 -80 is more than fast enough for me on a regular day in my truck (Don't worry lonny I don't ride in the left lane). That being said when I was in college I took my Dad's Mustang GT out to see if I could peg the spedo which topped out at 135. I have no idea how fast I was going but I can say that the old 5 liter easily did all of that 135 and kept right on going. I can also say that at those speeds roads that seemed smooth at 45-65 turned out to have some significant bumps in them. :D I can also say that breaks don't work quite the same at those kinds of speeds. Lucky I lived through that one.
I will say this about driving fast:

1. Many roads and many drivers will keep your speeds down if you want to let it rip.

2. It would take some conditioning before American drivers would adapt to the German system of move out of the way when somebody flashes you. I'm the type that would move over just to see how fast somebody blew the doors off of my car.

3. When something goes wrong at high speeds, it sometimes REALLY goes wrong.

4. If there wasn't a speed limit, I wouldn't have done all this traveling in recent years because I would've bought a M5 sooner and probably never would've gone to the Salt Flats when I could go faster on asphalt/pavement. I know I would've fixed my car already if I did blow an engine, but I wouldn't have ever done that if there wasn't a speed limit on regular roads.

5. Me saying I would go 180+ is only in the best conditions and that sure isn't around the big metro areas!:D

PantherStang84
11-03-2009, 08:44 PM
I'm all for no speed limit on rural Interstates. 65-70 in the city freeways.
However, on the 2 lane rural highways and Farm to Market roads, 70 is way too fast on the ones where I live.

tayb
11-03-2009, 09:12 PM
95+. It would be 180 if there were optimal road conditions and the road was empty. I've been 95+ on 183 in Austin and 100+ on George Bush Turnpike in Dallas no problems. I've been ticketed going 34 over on a 70 reduced to 24 over I guess because the cop felt nice.

I think people going 5-10 under the speed limit are much much much more dangerous than the people going 10-15 over the speed limit.

Slim-Rob
11-03-2009, 09:34 PM
i agree that its not the fast drivers that cause accidents. It's the people who are driving too slow and get in the way. If you want to drive slow, move over.

But also, if you want to drive fast you need to be cautious about it. If someone is in your way you can't just expect them to move (we aren't in Europe...)

I haul *** sometimes and I feel completely safe doing 100+ (well not since I got the 20s, fastest I've been is 95 on them...) but I feel very unsafe doing 70 in a 70 when there are people doing 60 around me.

If cops would make more of a point of pulling over slow traffic as well as fast traffic, it would be much safer.


Bottom line is, the left lane is for passing. If someone wants to blow by you at 160, let them. It's not your place to be the left lane police and block the left lane doing the speed limit.

PaulinPlano
11-03-2009, 09:42 PM
I drive about 80 on the interstate if it is not under construction. On tollways I kick it up to 90... especially the "Pickle" around Austin and the Bush Turnpike. Those roads are built for speed.

yankee
11-03-2009, 09:53 PM
i typically do 80-85 on the freeway...oklahoma is wide open so i usually go 85-90, and that's pretty comfortable with me. anyone know the effect on gas mileage with that kind of speed?

b756561
11-03-2009, 10:41 PM
95+. It would be 180 if there were optimal road conditions and the road was empty. I've been 95+ on 183 in Austin and 100+ on George Bush Turnpike in Dallas no problems. I've been ticketed going 34 over on a 70 reduced to 24 over I guess because the cop felt nice.

I think people going 5-10 under the speed limit are much much much more dangerous than the people going 10-15 over the speed limit.

I feel your pain. A couple of years back I got ticketed in my old Chevelle going 76 over in a 55 (I was actually slowing down before he clocked me.) Cost me $40 bucks and I was put on a 3-day Deferred Adjudication. I don't know how fast the car will go but I do know it will hit 130. If I had been in my beemer, I probably would have been going faster. :o

svhorns
11-03-2009, 10:47 PM
i agree that its not the fast drivers that cause accidents. It's the people who are driving too slow and get in the way. If you want to drive slow, move over.

But also, if you want to drive fast you need to be cautious about it. If someone is in your way you can't just expect them to move (we aren't in Europe...)

I haul *** sometimes and I feel completely safe doing 100+ (well not since I got the 20s, fastest I've been is 95 on them...) but I feel very unsafe doing 70 in a 70 when there are people doing 60 around me.

If cops would make more of a point of pulling over slow traffic as well as fast traffic, it would be much safer.


Bottom line is, the left lane is for passing. If someone wants to blow by you at 160, let them. It's not your place to be the left lane police and block the left lane doing the speed limit.
If I'm doing 80 in a 70 and I have a guy going 90 behind me... you better believe I ain't moving over. If his happy a$$ wants to bob and weave he can bob and weave.

b756561
11-03-2009, 11:16 PM
If I'm doing 80 in a 70 and I have a guy going 90 behind me... you better believe I ain't moving over. If his happy a$$ wants to bob and weave he can bob and weave.

Ever heard of a thing called "common courtesy?" Whether you are doing 50 or 90, common courtesy says you pull over to the right to let faster traffic pass by.

Some people can't figure out why "Road Rage" takes place. :D

svhorns
11-03-2009, 11:20 PM
Ever heard of a thing called "common courtesy?" Whether you are doing 50 or 90, common courtesy says you pull over to the right to let faster traffic pass by.

Some people can't figure out why "Road Rage" takes place. :D

Courtesy is slowing your happy a$$ down because not everyone on the road is driving like a bat out of hell. If you're the one not flowing with traffic than you're on your own.

the_phoenix612
11-03-2009, 11:23 PM
Courtesy is slowing your happy a$$ down because not everyone on the road is driving like a bat out of hell. If you're the one not flowing with traffic than you're on your own.
you're an idiot. On interstates between cities there's no reason to hold people up behind you if the right lane is clear. The only reason to do it is if you're intentionally being a jackass.

svhorns
11-03-2009, 11:25 PM
you're an idiot. On interstates between cities there's no reason to hold people up behind you if the right lane is clear. The only reason to do it is if you're intentionally being a jackass.

There's usually no traffic in between cities so I'd probably be in the right lane anyways. Keyword being traffic here.

the_phoenix612
11-03-2009, 11:26 PM
There's usually no traffic in between cities so I'd probably be in the right lane anyways. Keyword being traffic here.
I don't believe we're talking about going 90 in traffic.

b756561
11-03-2009, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by svhorns http://forums.5atexasfootball.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.5atexasfootball.com/showthread.php?p=1362638#post1362638)
If I'm doing 80 in a 70 and I have a guy going 90 behind me... you better believe I ain't moving over. If his happy a$$ wants to bob and weave he can bob and weave.

Courtesy is slowing your happy a$$ down because not everyone on the road is driving like a bat out of hell. If you're the one not flowing with traffic than you're on your own.


Excuse me, who was it that said if they were doing 80 in a 70 that they wouldn't pull to the right to let faster traffic pass by? Let's get a little consistancy going here. :D

tayb
11-03-2009, 11:27 PM
If I'm doing 80 in a 70 and I have a guy going 90 behind me... you better believe I ain't moving over. If his happy a$$ wants to bob and weave he can bob and weave.

Go ahead and not move over. I'll give you about 30 seconds before I whip around you and then hit the brakes... hard. You better hope your car is a lot faster than mine or else you're in for a huge pain in the *** until I get bored. You aren't getting around me once I pull in front of you.

Bottom line, move your a$$ out of the left lane if someone wants to go faster than you. I don't care how fast you are going. The left lane is for passing, not for people who want to determine their own personal speed limit and impose it on everyone else. People who refuse to move out of the left lane are the most annoying people on the road.

i typically do 80-85 on the freeway...oklahoma is wide open so i usually go 85-90, and that's pretty comfortable with me. anyone know the effect on gas mileage with that kind of speed?

Very negative.

svhorns
11-03-2009, 11:32 PM
Go ahead and not move over. I'll give you about 30 seconds before I whip around you and then hit the brakes... hard. You better hope your car is a lot faster than mine or else you're in for a huge pain in the *** until I get bored. You aren't getting around me once I pull in front of you.

Bottom line, move your a$$ out of the left lane if someone wants to go faster than you. I don't care how fast you are going. The left lane is for passing, not for people who want to determine their own personal speed limit and impose it on everyone else. People who refuse to move out of the left lane are the most annoying people on the road.



Very negative.

...and I don't care how fast you are going. If you want to speed at redic. speeds and weave in and out of traffic like your about to crap your pants... good luck with that.

svhorns
11-03-2009, 11:35 PM
I don't believe we're talking about going 90 in traffic.

Most of my driving is done on interstates within the city. So if I'm in the left lane more times than not there are cars on my right side. If I'm going 80 in a 70 and I'm passing the cars on my right pretty easily I will not move over and slow down to 70 so your happy a$$ can get around me.

tayb
11-03-2009, 11:36 PM
...and I don't care how fast you are going. If you want to speed at redic. speeds and weave in and out of traffic like your about to crap your pants... good luck with that.

That's good. Don't get out of the way. I'll have some fun slowing you down to below 50 MPH until I get bored and decide to speed off.

Or. You can stop being a d-bag and get out of the way.

svhorns
11-03-2009, 11:41 PM
That's good. Don't get out of the way. I'll have some fun slowing you down to below 50 MPH until I get bored and decide to speed off.

Or. You can stop being a d-bag and get out of the way.

I've never had anyone do that before. I've never been in a wreck and I've gotten 1 ticket in 8 years of driving(expired registration). I think you just need to take a chill pill and enjoy the scenery.

the_phoenix612
11-03-2009, 11:43 PM
I've never had anyone do that before. I've never been in a wreck and I've gotten 1 ticket in 8 years of driving(expired registration). I think you just need to take a chill pill and enjoy the scenery.
legal driving=/=being a dick in the left lane. The only time I ever speed is interstates between cities when there's no traffic/Highway 6 from 35 to Bryan, but I move over when I can if someone comes up behind me cuz its the safe and considerate move to make.

That said, I am known to slow down if you start tailgating me on a one lane road.

svhorns
11-03-2009, 11:44 PM
What does bug me is when it's a one lane highway the speed limit is 70 the driver in front of me is going 60 and he won't use the shoulder to let me pass. HWY 281 between Blanco and Bulverde is notorious for that. Now that's one situation where no matter how fast your going I'll always use the shoulder to let you pass. Reason being is there's no traffic near or around me.

b756561
11-03-2009, 11:46 PM
...and I don't care how fast you are going. If you want to speed at redic. speeds and weave in and out of traffic like your about to crap your pants... good luck with that.

Oh, I see. YOU want to be able to drive at what ever speed YOU want to in the left lane, BUT YOU think that no one else should have that privilege. I meet a$$holes like you on the highway almost every morning. I take special pride in getting in front of them and slowing down to about 45 or 50 mph. They aren't going to get around me and I stay just in front of them until one of us turns off. Turn about in fair play I say. I travel the same route to work, at the same time, every morning. The regulars know my BMW and when they see me behind them, they pull to the right and let me pass. I've even had some of these other drivers help me give those a$$holes like you a thorough taste of their own selfishness. :D

svhorns
11-03-2009, 11:47 PM
legal driving=/=being a dick in the left lane. The only time I ever speed is interstates between cities when there's no traffic/Highway 6 from 35 to Bryan, but I move over when I can if someone comes up behind me cuz its the safe and considerate move to make.

That said, I am known to slow down if you start tailgating me on a one lane road.

I drive 15 miles to work at 8:30 in the morning and drive home at around 5 every day. I'm always driving in traffic. That's what I'm basing my argument on.

yankee
11-03-2009, 11:47 PM
Most of my driving is done on interstates within the city. So if I'm in the left lane more times than not there are cars on my right side. If I'm going 80 in a 70 and I'm passing the cars on my right pretty easily I will not move over and slow down to 70 so your happy a$$ can get around me.

woo!
i'm not the only one.

tayb
11-03-2009, 11:48 PM
I've never had anyone do that before. I've never been in a wreck and I've gotten 1 ticket in 8 years of driving(expired registration). I think you just need to take a chill pill and enjoy the scenery.

I don't do it often unless I encounter someone like yourself who feels the need to control other people.

So you haven't gotten many tickets? Okay? You are equating safe driving as an excuse for being a dick. It's not an excuse. I have zero wrecks on my driving record... The left lane is for passing, get out of the left lane if you are going slow enough to be passed. You don't get to determine at which speed limit someone else should be driving and seeing as you are already exceeding the speed limit by 10 you have no reason to think you can or should either. Move over.

Refusing to move over is possibly the most annoying thing a driver can do on the highway. Ultimate d-bag move in my opinion.

svhorns
11-03-2009, 11:49 PM
Oh, I see. YOU want to be able to drive at what ever speed YOU want to in the left lane, BUT YOU think that no one else should have that privilege. I meet a$$holes like you on the highway almost every morning. I take special pride in getting in front of them and slowing down to about 45 or 50 mph. They aren't going to get around me and I stay just in front of them until one of us turns off. Turn about in fair play I say. I travel the same route to work, at the same time, every morning. The regulars know my BMW and when they see me behind them, they pull to the right and let me pass. I've even had some of these other drivers help me give those a$$holes like you a thorough taste of their own selfishness. :D

I refuse to get in between cars and slowing down 15 mph because someone wants to drive really fast. I'm sorry. On the road in traffic... it's me first and you second. I will do what I feel is safe for me.

tayb
11-03-2009, 11:50 PM
I drive 15 miles to work at 8:30 in the morning and drive home at around 5 every day. I'm always driving in traffic. That's what I'm basing my argument on.

What kind of traffic do you drive in where you have the ability to drive upwards of 80 MPH and people are wanting to pass you?

svhorns
11-03-2009, 11:52 PM
What kind of traffic do you drive in where you have the ability to drive upwards of 80 MPH and people are wanting to pass you?

I would say its the equivalent to 183 around the Lamar/35 area. At about the same time.

tayb
11-03-2009, 11:55 PM
I would say its the equivalent to 183 around the Lamar/35 area. At about the same time.

Definitely not equivalent to anything in Austin around 8:30AM and 5 PM. You would be lucky to hit 40 on 183 or IH-35 at those times much less cruising at 80.

b756561
11-03-2009, 11:55 PM
legal driving=/=being a dick in the left lane. The only time I ever speed is interstates between cities when there's no traffic/Highway 6 from 35 to Bryan, but I move over when I can if someone comes up behind me cuz its the safe and considerate move to make.

That said, I am known to slow down if you start tailgating me on a one lane road.

I drive the high school softball team to Bryan every year for the games there. That Hwy. 6 from 35 to Bryan seems like the longest stretch of highway I travel. I have to drive the bus between 50-60 mph. With all those girls on the bus I can't pull over on the shoulder to let the traffic pass. I know how made I am making the other drivers who are stuck behind me. I at least pull over in each little town to let all the traffic pass me by. Then I get back on the road and make a whole new group of drivers mad at me.

svhorns
11-03-2009, 11:57 PM
Definitely not equivalent to anything in Austin around 8:30AM and 5 PM. You would be lucky to hit 40 on 183 or IH-35 at those times much less cruising at 80.

I lived in Austin for 18 years of my life. I know how it is. I've worked all around that city. Once you get pass mopac on 183 heading south it clears up a little but there's still areas to where you can hit 80 with traffic around you.

tayb
11-03-2009, 11:59 PM
Oh, I see. YOU want to be able to drive at what ever speed YOU want to in the left lane, BUT YOU think that no one else should have that privilege. I meet a$$holes like you on the highway almost every morning. I take special pride in getting in front of them and slowing down to about 45 or 50 mph. They aren't going to get around me and I stay just in front of them until one of us turns off. Turn about in fair play I say. I travel the same route to work, at the same time, every morning. The regulars know my BMW and when they see me behind them, they pull to the right and let me pass. I've even had some of these other drivers help me give those a$$holes like you a thorough taste of their own selfishness. :D

Exactly what I do. If svhorns was in front of me his drive to work would be a living hell until I exited or he exited. We wouldn't go a mile over 45 and if he tried to get around me I'd whip right back in front of him. A taste of his own medicine of what it feels like to sit behind a car going slower than you want to go.

b756561
11-04-2009, 12:01 AM
What does bug me is when it's a one lane highway the speed limit is 70 the driver in front of me is going 60 and he won't use the shoulder to let me pass. HWY 281 between Blanco and Bulverde is notorious for that. Now that's one situation where no matter how fast your going I'll always use the shoulder to let you pass. Reason being is there's no traffic near or around me.

The wife and I drive quite regularly between Dallas and Bulverde. We always drive 281 because there is so little traffic on the road and we seem to get there faster than if we had driven 35. Of course I always end up stopping in Johnson City to get the beef jerky. I find most people on that road to be considerate.

tayb
11-04-2009, 12:01 AM
I lived in Austin for 18 years of my life. I know how it is. I've worked all around that city. Once you get pass mopac on 183 heading south it clears up a little but there's still areas to where you can hit 80 with traffic around you.

No, there is not. Not at 8:30 AM or 5PM anyways. Way too many cars on the road. There was probably a time when you could do that but not anymore, too many people in the city now and no new roads. The only places in Austin you're going to be able to get going that fast in rush hour traffic is the 183 toll roads that no one is ever on.

svhorns
11-04-2009, 12:05 AM
Exactly what I do. If svhorns was in front of me his drive to work would be a living hell until I exited or he exited. We wouldn't go a mile over 45 and if he tried to get around me I'd whip right back in front of him. A taste of his own medicine of what it feels like to sit behind a car going slower than you want to go.

... Honestly if you did that I would laugh because you're just bitter. You sound like my little brother when he was 7 and didn't get what he wanted at the toy store... do you know what he would do? He would lay down on the floor in the middle of the store and pout... until my mom would grab him by the ear and yank his a$$ out of there. My safety is what is important to me. I could care less about how you think you're so much cooler because you can go 30 over the speed limit.

svhorns
11-04-2009, 12:08 AM
The wife and I drive quite regularly between Dallas and Bulverde. We always drive 281 because there is so little traffic on the road and we seem to get there faster than if we had driven 35. Of course I always end up stopping in Johnson City to get the beef jerky. I find most people on that road to be considerate.

When I drive in the country with less traffic... pass me all you want. I'm usually going 80-85 and I'd be more than happy to move to the shoulder for you. I have no problem with that... and when I come up behind you and you move to the shoulder I always flash my hazard lights twice to show appreciation... but it's an entirely different story when I have cars all around me where I would have to slow down 10-15 mph just to let you pass me.

b756561
11-04-2009, 12:09 AM
I refuse to get in between cars and slowing down 15 mph because someone wants to drive really fast. I'm sorry. On the road in traffic... it's me first and you second. I will do what I feel is safe for me.

I agree, on the road it is me first and you second. No problem with that at all. You get in front of me and not pull over when you have the chance and I will feel that you are putting you first over me. I don't like that, it should be me first over you. I take my revenge out on people like you. I don't get even. Only little people get even. Not me. No way, I get REVENGE. And I have fun doing it. :cool:

tayb
11-04-2009, 12:10 AM
... Honestly if you did that I would laugh because you're just bitter. You sound like my little brother when he was 7 and didn't get what he wanted at the toy store... do you know what he would do? He would lay down on the floor in the middle of the store and pout... until my mom would grab him by the ear and yank his a$$ out of there. My safety is what is important to me. I could care less about how you think you're so much cooler because you can go 30 over the speed limit.

And you sound like the little ****** who always tries to boss everyone around. "Well I'm going 80 and that's fast enough for this road so I'm not going to get over to let anyone pass me." I'm just turning the situation directly on top of you so now you get to wait behind me. I hope you're in a hurry, because you're going to be late.

Don't worry. I'll be laughing too.

svhorns
11-04-2009, 12:11 AM
And you sound like the little ****** who always tries to boss everyone around. "Well I'm going 80 and that's fast enough for this road so I'm not going to get over to let anyone pass me." I'm just turning the situation directly on top of you so now you get to wait behind me. I hope you're in a hurry, because you're going to be late. You don't own the road.

Don't worry. I'll be laughing too.

So it all works out in the end. I'm alright with that.

lonny23
11-04-2009, 04:00 AM
i typically do 80-85 on the freeway...oklahoma is wide open so i usually go 85-90, and that's pretty comfortable with me. anyone know the effect on gas mileage with that kind of speed?
I had a tank of gas one time in the M5 where I pretty much averaged 100 MPH while being on the interstate for pretty much the whole tank, but there was some slowing down and I got about 20 MPG. I tortured myself one time and had a tank where it was pretty much all open driving and I only went 80 MPH. I got 24 MPG on that tank and once the car is fixed, I'll see what I get doing 70 and 65 the whole way.

lonny23
11-04-2009, 04:22 AM
Go ahead and not move over. I'll give you about 30 seconds before I whip around you and then hit the brakes... hard. You better hope your car is a lot faster than mine or else you're in for a huge pain in the *** until I get bored. You aren't getting around me once I pull in front of you.

Bottom line, move your a$$ out of the left lane if someone wants to go faster than you. I don't care how fast you are going. The left lane is for passing, not for people who want to determine their own personal speed limit and impose it on everyone else. People who refuse to move out of the left lane are the most annoying people on the road.



Very negative.
The most annoying people on the road:

Motorcycles in groups of 2 or more- They travel in huge packs and close enough to each other that they make it a pain to pass them if you want to.

The people who speed up when you pass them- We wouldn't pass you if you were driving faster to start with and I don't appreciate you making me stay on the other side of the road longer than I have to.

The people who won't move over/pass people slowly- I really don't care if people want to drive in the left lane or pass people slowly UNTIL somebody else comes up behind you. That's when you need to make it a priority to speed up and move over.

The morons who tailgate you in the left lane when other lanes are open for passing- I'm all for people moving to the right for others to pass, but I think some people are stupid to only pass on the left. I'll use any lane on the road to pass and have even taken to the shoulder before. If you drive very fast, you can sneak up on a person without them knowing it. Just make the easy move and pass in another lane. I hate the "I'm going to make you move" mentality as much as the "I'm driving the speed limit and have a right to drive in the left lane" attitude.

SUV's and minivans- The owners want to feel safe and the whole 9 yards and that's usually code for slow drivers who take no risks. These people don't pay attention to their mirrors that much and are in their own world when driving.

Cell phone/texting drivers- I'm not against using cell phones while driving, but very few people do it right. I still look in my mirrors constantly while using the phone, but most people zone out and don't pay attention to what's in front of them very well and almost not at all to what's behind them. I make it a point to know what's behind me.

Constantly hitting the brakes- This is usually the minivan types, but there is a lot to be said about driving to match the curves and let the natural energy of the vehicle slow it down. You can guess, I hate driving behind people in mountains and curves!:D

The people who won't get over when you're entering a road- My dad taught me early to move over if I can to let somebody else onto the road. Most people are oblivious to doing that, especially if they have to turn right or left very soon. It only takes a split second of moving over and then back, but it's the courteous thing to do. I appreciate those who pull on the shoulder to let somebody pass and that pretty much only happens in Texas.

lonny23
11-04-2009, 04:30 AM
The wife and I drive quite regularly between Dallas and Bulverde. We always drive 281 because there is so little traffic on the road and we seem to get there faster than if we had driven 35. Of course I always end up stopping in Johnson City to get the beef jerky. I find most people on that road to be considerate.
I drive 281 a lot and still find my share of morons. I do think there are too many dummies on 35, but then again I think many of those cats are stupid for always taking the interstate, too. I drive US, state, and FM roads whenever I can and they follow my planned route better. I'll also take those roads to get around heavy traffic. I will say that I shock a few people on those roads wanting to go faster!

lonny23
11-04-2009, 04:43 AM
Let it be said that I don't support slowing down to get back at others, just as I don't support hogging the passing lane. It wasn't my intentions to find out in this thread, but this clearly shows the personality of some of the posters and how they're a jerk in real life just like on the board.

As a teen, me and my buddy used to sometimes play a game on I-30 where we'd take up both lanes and slow to like 40 or 50, but I'd never do that these days. I don't remember how long we'd do it, but it is being a jerk even though it was just fun.

I know people get mad at tailgaters, but they fail to realize most tailgaters are doing it because you won't let them pass you and that sometimes means you going to the shoulder in a no passing zone.

I hate people who slam on their brakes to get back. My dad did that on the interstate several times when I was a kid and in the backseat and I'll never do that.

I know I don't speak for everybody, but I'll speak for myself here. I don't expect a person to move out of the passing lane when he can't move over, but I do expect him/her to make moving over a priority and get clear of traffic quicker. Likewise, drivers should move over even if it means slowing down temporarily because they can always get back on the gas and stay behind the person who just passed them. I do that all the time now that I slowed down a lot. There used to be very few people who ever tried to pass me.

yallerjacket2
11-04-2009, 06:40 AM
I normally drive whatever the speed limit is. No reason to go any faster unless I'm in danger of being late to something I absolutely cannot be late to. I don't care if people want to drive faster. The only thing that bothers me is when I'm doing 70 and I'm passing somebody who's doing 67, and somebody comes up behind me in the left lane doing 90, get's right up on my arse and acts like they are going insane because they are going to get to their destination 5 seconds later now.

To answer the poll question, I would probably do 75-80.

smw358
11-04-2009, 08:28 AM
75 - 80mph is fast enough....

lonny23
11-04-2009, 10:11 AM
I normally drive whatever the speed limit is. No reason to go any faster unless I'm in danger of being late to something I absolutely cannot be late to. I don't care if people want to drive faster. The only thing that bothers me is when I'm doing 70 and I'm passing somebody who's doing 67, and somebody comes up behind me in the left lane doing 90, get's right up on my arse and acts like they are going insane because they are going to get to their destination 5 seconds later now.

To answer the poll question, I would probably do 75-80.
To your point about arriving a little later, I think about time and the negatives of arriving later.

If I'm going to Childress and it's 100 miles away, I'm not going to drive 80 and risk getting a ticket to save the 5 minutes by driving 75 and not getting a ticket.

Let's say I'm going to Windthorst and it's 30 miles away. It's not worth a ticket to drive 85 and save 5 minutes over driving 75.

I will say that time does become a precious commodity when you're either on a schedule of sorts and have to drive several hundred miles away or if you're taking a trip of multiple thousands of miles. Speeding is very tempting on vacation because I want to see a bunch of stuff in a limited amount of time. 10 miles an hour in a 16 hour driving day (I do that often and usually on the road for more than 16) is an extra 160 miles a day. An extra 160 miles a day over a 15 day period is 2400 miles. It does add up.

pied
11-04-2009, 10:26 AM
I have driven in Europe and it is a different expereince.

My sister in law had to get a driver's lisence in Germany and said something very interesting. She was told that all drivers should look at eachother as they have the same goal, to get where they want as quickly as they want. it is my job to help you go as fast as you need, not to prevent it. I am paraphrasing it, but that's the general idea.

Different thought process than some drivers over here.

ChanSHS
11-04-2009, 10:29 AM
So it all works out in the end. I'm alright with that.

Pretty much agree with everything you've said.

Once I'm going well over the speed limit, if the person behind me is going even faster, he can suck it.

svhorns
11-04-2009, 10:44 AM
My intentions of not letting people pass me in the left lane are not to be an a$$. I just like to make sure I'm clear to the right of me and I won't have to squeeze in between two cars. I would never intentionally try to aggravate the other driver because I myself take driving pretty serious. I feel that some people take driving too lightly... so I have no problem when people feel like they have to drive slow. They should do whatever they need to do to feel safe while driving.

E-Vol-ution
11-04-2009, 10:55 AM
Varies by the car......I wouldn't want to drive the humptie faster than 85 on average, but I have one I'd feel very comfortable at 135-140mph.

lonny23
11-04-2009, 06:12 PM
I have driven in Europe and it is a different expereince.

My sister in law had to get a driver's lisence in Germany and said something very interesting. She was told that all drivers should look at eachother as they have the same goal, to get where they want as quickly as they want. it is my job to help you go as fast as you need, not to prevent it. I am paraphrasing it, but that's the general idea.

Different thought process than some drivers over here.
That's my philosophy and I just might get to test out that theory!:D

lonny23
11-04-2009, 06:17 PM
My intentions of not letting people pass me in the left lane are not to be an a$$. I just like to make sure I'm clear to the right of me and I won't have to squeeze in between two cars. I would never intentionally try to aggravate the other driver because I myself take driving pretty serious. I feel that some people take driving too lightly... so I have no problem when people feel like they have to drive slow. They should do whatever they need to do to feel safe while driving.
I can see where you're coming from and I think part of the responses in this thread are based upon people's driving experiences. My gripes in this thread are borne out of frustrations from drivers in remote areas who act like dirtbags, but there are some real dirtbags in the city, too. I can see where you're relaying what you experience in heavy traffic. My experiences are in gridlock traffic, wide open interstates, backroads, and crummier driving conditions in other states. I run the full gamut, but my love is to be on the open road!:D

I will say it was a boatload of fun to drop the M5 down into 4th going through Houston and punch it weaving in and out of traffic!:cool:

Pinion
11-04-2009, 09:46 PM
I would keep it over 85mph on the open road. My car can and will do it, so why not? In traffic is a whole other thing though.

I generally drive over 85mph on the open road as it is now. For the most part the laws leave me alone. A clean cut white boy doesnt fit into their "profiling" guidelines.. :rolleyes:

okt0ber
11-04-2009, 09:58 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States#Texas

lonny23
11-05-2009, 12:35 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States#Texas
I've overachieved in every state and commonwealth and been stopped in at least 12 or 13 of them!:D

I haven't done 100 in all of them, but I've done over 90 in most of them.

PaulinPlano
11-05-2009, 11:25 PM
I normally drive whatever the speed limit is. No reason to go any faster unless I'm in danger of being late to something I absolutely cannot be late to. I don't care if people want to drive faster. The only thing that bothers me is when I'm doing 70 and I'm passing somebody who's doing 67, and somebody comes up behind me in the left lane doing 90, get's right up on my arse and acts like they are going insane because they are going to get to their destination 5 seconds later now.
To answer the poll question, I would probably do 75-80.

Thats ME!:D