Things that should be forbidden on game day

[Firebird]

1. Halftime shows that become halftime operas. The halftime show should be cut off and any extraneous people run off the field as soon as the clock for halftime runs out.

[SV61]

1. Halftime shows that become halftime operas. The halftime show should be cut off and any extraneous people run OVER as soon as the clock for halftime runs out.

FIFY

This 30 minute half time show business, is gettin just a wee bit over done, IMO.

I like the Bands, probably more than most Football fans. I know that all those folks put in lots of hours, so I ain't discounting that. But, do we really need the multiple Xylophones, and bells, and gongs, and dinner bells, and kettle drums, big wooden props, etc? Isn't this a MARCHING band on the field????

[Woodlands]

1. Halftime shows that become halftime operas. The halftime show should be cut off and any extraneous people run off the field as soon as the clock for halftime runs out.

FINALLY!!!! I could NOT agree more!!!!!!!

[slcdragonfan]

FIFY

This 30 minute half time show business, is gettin just a wee bit over done, IMO.

I like the Bands, probably more than most Football fans. I know that all those folks put in lots of hours, so I ain't discounting that. But, do we really need the multiple Xylophones, and bells, and gongs, and dinner bells, and kettle drums, big wooden props, etc? Isn't this a MARCHING band on the field????

It has gone the way of the homecoming corsage in Texas. Used to be one flower, some ribbons, etc. Then two flowers, ribbons, little figurines, etc. I have now seen girls with back straps, 4 flowers, all kinds of critters and glitter on what looks to be hundreds of ribbons flowing down to the ground and out into the parking lot. I am not sure where we go from here, but I suspect it involves a fork lift.

But, we were talking about bands. As has been said a thousand times and a thousand ways, blame the UIL.

[Favpack]

FINALLY!!!! I could NOT agree more!!!!!!!

I would probably PAY YOU to complain to ANYONE in Lufkin about Friday night's fiasco.

Your band did a fine job - a bit over the top maybe - but that's personal taste. What's more important is you exited the field at the 14:30 mark (out of 28 total minutes) - leaving Lufkin ample time for a halftime show.

Our band director proceeds to go his customary 3-6 minutes over the allotted time due to poor time management and a general attitude that everyone must be there to see him and his band.

Here's a clue Lufkin (and anyone else that has a similar problem) band director. It's called a football game - not a band show.

I'd love to see Texas install the Lousiana rule. Simply have one ref hang back and time both sides. If one or both go over, it's 5 yards per minute. I'm being dead serious here - it's absurd.

[slcdragonfan]

1-3 minutes. Critical time for the fans in the stands.
:notworthy
I am not a fan of halftime runovers. But 3 minutes out of 3-4 hours?
Better yet, why would you want what the band/drill team does to impact your football team?????? {scratches head }

[Firebird]

I would probably PAY YOU to complain to ANYONE in Lufkin about Friday night's fiasco.

Your band did a fine job - a bit over the top maybe - but that's personal taste. What's more important is you exited the field at the 14:30 mark (out of 28 total minutes) - leaving Lufkin ample time for a halftime show.

Our band director proceeds to go his customary 3-6 minutes over the allotted time due to poor time management and a general attitude that everyone must be there to see him and his band.

Here's a clue Lufkin (and anyone else that has a similar problem) band director. It's called a football game - not a band show.

I'd love to see Texas install the Lousiana rule. Simply have one ref hang back and time both sides. If one or both go over, it's 5 yards per minute. I'm being dead serious here - it's absurd.


Completely agree with this, and the homecoming mum thing.

I also think that the various "nights" on the field should be done before kickoff. The people who want to see every member of the band/drill team/cheerleaders/student council/Spanish club parade down the sideline with a parent can show up early.

[Firebird]

1-3 minutes. Critical time for the fans in the stands.
:notworthy
I am not a fan of halftime runovers. But 3 minutes out of 3-4 hours?
Better yet, why would you want what the band/drill team does to impact your football team?????? {scratches head }

Because the one way it stops is by getting the football coach angry.

[Maroondog]

It has gone the way of the homecoming corsage in Texas. Used to be one flower, some ribbons, etc. Then two flowers, ribbons, little figurines, etc. I have now seen girls with back straps, 4 flowers, all kinds of critters and glitter on what looks to be hundreds of ribbons flowing down to the ground and out into the parking lot. I am not sure where we go from here, but I suspect it involves a fork lift.

But, we were talking about bands. As has been said a thousand times and a thousand ways, blame the UIL.

I had to laugh. I thought it was just me, but the mums just look ridiculous. You are right though. They will either need a fork lift or be leading a pack mule. :D

[Favpack]

The problem with Lufkin is just this --- nobody can turn the tap off. If one sponsor is good, sponsoring every player and the Moment of Silence (usually a church) is even better, right?

If occassionally letting the twirlers on the track for a number on a comfortable win night is good - letting them live on the track and twirl the entire game has got to be even better.

Meet the Panthers went from introducing the senior players to introducing every single athlete at LHS and then some.

And, sorry gang - but the "what's wrong with 2-3 minutes over" will be 5-10 minutes over before long, and then 10-15 minutes over, etc. etc.

[Maroondog]

The problem with Lufkin is just this --- nobody can turn the tap off. If one sponsor is good, sponsoring every player and the Moment of Silence (usually a church) is even better, right?

If occassionally letting the twirlers on the track for a number on a comfortable win night is good - letting them live on the track and twirl the entire game has got to be even better.

Meet the Panthers went from introducing the senior players to introducing every single athlete at LHS and then some.

And, sorry gang - but the "what's wrong with 2-3 minutes over" will be 5-10 minutes over before long, and then 10-15 minutes over, etc. etc.

Our half times have gotten so long I'm trying to figure a way to make reservations for dinner at half and then come back. Problem is, they won't let anybody back in the stadium once they leave.

[SV61]

Maybe we should let the football game run over, into the Band night.

:confused:

Maybe??

I don't have the answer, other than it is a little sad to me, that we have to establish a time limit for a High School Band performance, during a FOOTBALL game.

Really?

Maybe the UIL fixes this, by lower the time allowed, during Band competitions.

[Woodlands]

Half-Time Regulations
The NCAA Football Rules specify a penalty be assessed to the home team at the beginning of the second half if the half- time exceeds allowable limits. Texas high schools play by NCAA rules, therefore the half-time length regulations will be enforced by football officials.
1. Maximum half-time length for UIL varsity games is 28 minutes. Please note that half-time is not required to be this long. Many districts have adopted a shorter period of time, for example 24 minutes. Note: Junior high and sub-varsity half-time should not be longer than 20 minutes.
2. Timing for the half-time should begin when all players and personnel have cleared the field at the end of the first half of play.
3. Bands should be ready at that time to come onto the field for their half-time show. Undue delay by the visiting team band could result in a penalty being assessed to the home school. Many schools are placing a time limit on each band, insuring that the first part of the half-time intermission will not cause the entire half-time to exceed the allotted time limit.
4. Football teams should have at least 3-4 minutes to warm up after the half-time intermission prior to the second-half kickoff.
5. When homecoming activities and/or other half-time activities necessitate an extra long half-time, it may be advisable for the visiting band to give its show prior to the game.
6. Both schools should cooperate to ensure proper half-time procedures.


This is from the 2009-2010 UIL Football Manual. My question is this. Why is this not enforced?

[marcusdrillmom]

I hope that whoever plays Trinity in round 1 of the playoffs does not have to sit through Sr Night at half time like we did last year. That was crazy!

[eaglefan2000]

I think the wrong people are reading this thread because we all seem to agree - bands need to stick to their allotted times - period. And why blame the UIL? If they did that garbage at UIL Marching Contest, they would be dq'd.

A few years ago, at Allen's home game and Senior night, Plano West's halftime show went about 25 minutes. The Allen band did not even get to finish their show, much less honor the senior band members, because Allen's director came on the speaker at 35 minutes and stopped the show. The last moment and memory of high school marching for those seniors on their own field was "Band- one two one two - off the field!"

Band director said he hated to do it, but the night was cold and the players were in the tunnel and the game had to move forward.

I love the bands - I really do - but if Allen can get 600 kids on and off the field and do a knock out show with a drill team number and a full percussion pit in 14 minutes flat - then there is not another school in Texas that should not also be able to meet that mark.

[SLCbandmom]

It has gone the way of the homecoming corsage in Texas. Used to be one flower, some ribbons, etc. Then two flowers, ribbons, little figurines, etc. I have now seen girls with back straps, 4 flowers, all kinds of critters and glitter on what looks to be hundreds of ribbons flowing down to the ground and out into the parking lot. I am not sure where we go from here, but I suspect it involves a fork lift.

I missed the homecoming game at SLC this year, but last year when we played Mesquite at their homecoming there were a few girls who had mums on front and back, mounted to a wide strap thing that went over their shoulder. The front and back corsages were equally extravagant, with multiple mums, decorations, and miles of ribbons.

It's called a Drape, and the effect reminded me of the blanket of roses placed over the winning horse at the Kentucky Derby. It was amazing.

[trojanbacker]

I hope that whoever plays Trinity in round 1 of the playoffs does not have to sit through Sr Night at half time like we did last year. That was crazy!

That WAS crazy. I have no idea why they did that. First time ever, as long as I've been following them.

[CyFallsMom]

I had three kids in the band at one time and, even at that, the long halftime shows grow old. My dislike of the contest shows during football games goes back to the 70's - couldn't stand them then either. I always enjoyed watching the Falls band but not the others do their shows.;). Well, I had kids down there, what can I say. I will say though, without the parents and families of band, drill team and cheerleaders, the stands would be a lot more empty. But, I used to hang around with the band parents and so many of them didn't have a clue what was going on down on the field. Sad.

[Favpack]

Just when I thought Lufkin's band could not get more out of whack and time-consuming, our band used 22 minutes of the 28 minute mark at Oak Ridge Friday night.

My apologies Oak Ridge.

Obviously the golden rule does not apply for many of our band directors. That is totally inexcusable.

[Firebird]

Just when I thought Lufkin's band could not get more out of whack and time-consuming, our band used 22 minutes of the 28 minute mark at Oak Ridge Friday night.

My apologies Oak Ridge.

Obviously the golden rule does not apply for many of our band directors. That is totally inexcusable.

IMHO, if either school does something like that there should be a kickoff penalty enforced on the team. Start keeping real time for the halftime shows. The only way it stops is by making the HC mad. He's the only guy on campus with more clout than the band director.

[Woodlands]

IMHO, if either school does something like that there should be a kickoff penalty enforced on the team. Start keeping real time for the halftime shows. The only way it stops is by making the HC mad. He's the only guy on campus with more clout than the band director.

Not at our school.

[Favpack]

IMHO, if either school does something like that there should be a kickoff penalty enforced on the team. Start keeping real time for the halftime shows. The only way it stops is by making the HC mad. He's the only guy on campus with more clout than the band director.

Louisiana enforces it - not unusual to see a kickoff set up or back 15 yards there.

Very easily enforced. Start the half time clock at 14 minutes and if the visiting band is not off the field at 0:00, you get a delay of game. Same for the home team- 14 minute timer and a 5 yard penalty if you go over.

I don't think it warrants alot more than that - but I'd be game for a 10 yarder.

As I said on the Lufkin board, if the band director were in charge of class periods or starting school at 8:25 - we'd be in trouble as he thinks 28 minutes is simply a suggestion.

[da hawaiian]

This - Sr night. It takes waaaaay to lone. And to Marcus - I'm very sorry

[da hawaiian]

Whistles in the stands, THe Plano wildcat noisemaker, Cowbells bigger than a fist, Cowboy stadium concession prices.