2006-2007 UIL Alignment

[KT2000]

Here is the new alignment for Class 5A. Some interesting moves, and we'll have an analysis of it posted by the end of the week.

2006-2007 Class 5A Alignment (http://www.uil.utexas.edu/2006align/pdf/5A_fb_bsktb.pdf)

[RocklandDragon]

The merger of 2-5A and 3-5A never arrived. Wow. Travel was too big of a concern, I suppose. Maybe, next realignment, Palo Duro will be at 5A level and San Angelo Central can be placed back in the Little SWC. Surprised to see 4 team districts in the lower levels (3A).

:D

[toonman]

The more things change - the more they stay the same

[LoneRocket]

Now we have to wait for the formal protests.

[warbird00]

Where there any major suprises/changes? I didnt see much different, of course I only really looked at Reg. I.

[LoneRocket]

Where there any major suprises/changes? I didnt see much different, of course I only really looked at Reg. I.
Westfield and Spring in region 2 instead of 3 and the make up of region 4.

[LUFPAN]

Is the enrollment figures posted some place? It would be interesting to see who the potential D1 and D2 play-off teams would be. Will the redistricting along with the 4 teams from each district format create some new match-ups? It would be good to see some other teams as long as we still get a shot at SLC.

[dada]

Westfield and Spring in region 2 instead of 3 and the make up of region 4.
Westfield and Northshore will cruise through district play......not a good thing.

Strake with the Cy-Fair schools.....how did THAT happen?

[lonny23]

Not much controversy here. They left a lot of things the same way.

It's good to see 26-5A just got better.:eek:

[caesarscott]

Westlake and the Austin schools got moved back down to Region IV. that 1 and done 2 years in a row didnt set well with the folks in West Austin.

[KT2000]

Houston underwent some changes I didn't expect, and also some things that I thought would change remained the same (Humble with PA, Baytown and Beaumont...makes no sense, however, more schools in Region 3 than we know what to do with).

Strake's move in with the Cypress schools is also confusing. If anything, I thought they'd move to HISD (Strake is near Sharpstown High), but didn't really expect a move from the Katy-Alief district.

Westfield to Region 2 is a significant move. North Shore remains in the Mustang Invitational District.

[Gridiron Gopher]

Not much controversy here. They left a lot of things the same way.

It's good to see 26-5A just got better.:eek:

All 4 schools that come out of 265a will be ready for the playoffs. The sad thing is that when you look at the district, there will be a team that won't make the playoffs and could have made some noise if they were in another district.

SV -reloading but always strong now
Judson -Judson is Judson. Will lose talent to Wagner but will be there at the end
Reagan -getting stronger every year.
Churchill -Can Finuzzi stay healthy. If yes, then they will be a playoff team
Mac -best team in 5 years but will it be enough in 265a.
Madison -Streety always brings a team to play no matter what they lose.
Roosevelt -a lot of young talent last year. Can they stay up with the big boys
Wagner -Judson 1a?

[Big Daddy Cool]

North Shore remains in the Mustang Invitational District.


I was so hoping the predictions would come true, but I guess you can't always get your wish. I sure hope like hell we don't play a soft non district schedual like we have the past couple of years. We have got to play at least one good team instead of three mediocre teams if we expect to go deep in the playoffs.

[Mean Green Machine]

155a will be a cake walk for Lufkin and The Woodlands. Conroe will be the only other competition for them. College Park will be in their first season and will beat Oak Ridge and maybe Magnolia. Magnolia has a new coach, John Lynch and he can only go up after 3 terrible seasons 2 wins in three years!

Hopefully, the Panthers and Highlanders will meet later in the season to get tuned-up for the playoffs.

TWHS will play Smithson Valley their zero week in San Antonio and North Shore the 2nd week. Katy said, they won't play them. I think Coach Joseph knows that TWHS will be loaded like they were this year. THWS will play a Cy team or Tomball. My choice would be A&M Cons.

TWHS has 7 all district defensive players coming back and the offense will much better. The WR's will be the best since their 03 team. The QB will be a big surprise.

RB has sub varsity talent coming up, hopefully less turn-overs.

Without the Klein or Spring schools this will be a weaker district for TWHS.

[ktCarl]

Houston underwent some changes I didn't expect, and also some things that I thought would change remained the same (Humble with PA, Baytown and Beaumont...makes no sense, however, more schools in Region 3 than we know what to do with).

Strake's move in with the Cypress schools is also confusing. If anything, I thought they'd move to HISD (Strake is near Sharpstown High), but didn't really expect a move from the Katy-Alief district.

Westfield to Region 2 is a significant move. North Shore remains in the Mustang Invitational District.

No mo Strake vs Katy chatter on this site.:( I hope StrakeDrake still hangs around. Any word on who Katy's non-district opponents may be?

[jtk1519]

This is beyond ridiculous. We have a 6 team district with 4 teams going to the playoffs. :mad:

[dragonsdaddy]

This is beyond ridiculous. We have a 6 team district with 4 teams going to the playoffs. :mad:
all set to hype the 1-9 odessa high broncos giving the 3-7 weatherford roos the old what for in round 1 next year? should be loads of fun.

[jtk1519]

Somebody explain this to me... if the UIL is allowing 4 teams into the playoffs, then why in the blue hell are there 4 districts in 3A with only 4 teams?!?! What's the point? Snyder could go 0-10 and still make the playoffs.

[dragonfootballfan]

Somebody explain this to me... if the UIL is allowing 4 teams into the playoffs, then why in the blue hell are there 4 districts in 3A with only 4 teams?!?! What's the point? Snyder could go 0-10 and still make the playoffs.
four teams is only for 5A

[jtk1519]

four teams is only for 5A

Even if that is true... 3 of 4 teams making the playoffs?!?! That is sooooooo stupid.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

I could not get the realingment to open on my computer. I copied it here for any one having the same problem.

REGION I District 1 El Paso Americas El Paso Bel Air El Paso Coronado El Paso Eastwood El Paso El Dorado El Paso Franklin El Paso Hanks El Paso Montwood El Paso Socorro
District 3 Abilene Abilene Cooper Midland Midland Lee Odessa Odessa Permian
District 5 Colleyville Heritage Grapevine Haltom City Haltom Justin Northwest Keller Keller Central N Richland Hills Richland Southlake Carroll
District 7 Dallas Jesuit Euless Trinity Grand Prairie Hurst Bell Irving Irving MacArthur Irving Nimitz South Grand Prairie
District 2 Amarillo Amarillo Tascosa Lubbock Lubbock Coronado Lubbock Monterey San Angelo Central + District 4 Burleson Ft Worth Paschal Granbury Mansfield Mansfield Summit Mansfield Timberview North Crowley Weatherford
District 6 Carrollton Creekview Carrollton Smith Carrollton Turner Coppell Lewisville Lewisville Flower Mound Lewisville Hebron Lewisville Marcus
District 8 Arlington Arlington Bowie Arlington Houston Arlington Lamar Arlington Martin Cedar Hill De Soto Duncanville

REGION II District 9 Allen Plano Plano East Plano West Richardson Richardson Berkner Richardson Lake Highlands Wylie District 11 Dallas Adams Dallas Carter Dallas Molina Dallas Skyline Dallas Sunset Dallas White
District 13 Belton Bryan College Station A&M Cons Killeen Ellison Killeen Harker Heights Killeen Shoemaker Temple
District 15 Conroe Conroe Oak Ridge Conroe The Woodlands The Woodlands College Park Lufkin Magnolia
District 10 Garland Garland Lakeview Cent Garland Naaman Forest Garland Rowlett Garland Sachse North Garland Rockwall South Garland District 12 Longview Mesquite Mesquite Horn North Mesquite Tyler Tyler Lee
District 14 Cedar Park Georgetown Leander Pflugerville Round Rock Round Rock McNeil Round Rock Stony Pt. Round Rock Westwood
District 16 Klein Klein Collins Klein Forest Klein Oak Spring Spring Westfield Tomball
REGION III
District 17 Houston Cyp. Creek Houston Cyp. Fairbanks Houston Cyp. Falls Houston Cyp Ridge Houston Cyp. Springs Houston Jersey Village Houston Langham Creek Houston Strake Jesuit District 19 Houston Aldine Houston Eisenhower Houston MacArthur Houston Memorial Houston Nimitz Houston Northbrook Houston Spring Woods Houston Stratford
District 21 Baytown Lee Baytown Sterling Beaumont West Brook Channelview Humble Humble Atascocita Humble Kingwood Port Arthur Memorial
District 23 Fort Bend Austin Fort Bend Bush Fort Bend Clements Fort Bend Dulles Fort Bend Elkins Fort Bend Hightower Fort Bend Kempner Fort Bend Marshall Fort Bend Willowridge
District 18 Alief Elsik Alief Hastings Alief Taylor Katy Katy Cinco Ranch Katy Mayde Creek Katy Morton Ranch Katy Taylor District 20 Houston Houston Bellaire Houston Chavez Houston Lamar Houston Lee * Houston Madison Houston Milby Houston Westbury Houston Westside
District 22 Deer Park Galena Park North Shore La Porte Pasadena Pasadena Dobie Pasadena Memorial Pasadena Rayburn Pasadena South Houston
District 24 Alvin Clute Brazoswood Friendswood Clear Brook Galveston Ball Houston Clear Lake League City Clear Creek Pearland

REGION IV District 25 Austin Austin Akins Austin Anderson Austin Bowie Austin Westlake Bastrop San Marcos Seguin District 27 Corpus Christi Carroll Corpus Christi King Corpus Christi Ray San Antonio E. Central San Antonio Highlands San Antonio Southwest Victoria Memorial
District 29 Eagle Pass Eagle Pass Winn Laredo Alexander Laredo Cigarroa Laredo Johnson Laredo Martin Laredo Nixon Laredo United Laredo United South
District 31 Edinburg Edinburg Economedes Edinburg North Harlingen Harlingen South Pharr-San Juan-Alamo PSJA Memorial PSJA North
District 26 Converse Judson Converse Wagner San Antonio Churchill San Antonio MacArthur San Antonio Madison San Antonio Reagan San Antonio Roosevelt Spr Branch Smithson Valley District 28 Del Rio San Antonio Clark San Antonio Holmes San Antonio Jay San Antonio Marshall San Antonio O'Connor San Antonio Stevens San Antonio Taft San Antonio Warren
District 30 Donna La Joya McAllen McAllen Memorial McAllen Rowe Mission Sharyland Rio Grande City
District 32 Brownsville Hanna Brownsville Lopez Brownsville Pace Brownsville Porter Brownsville Rivera Los Fresnos San Benito Weslaco

[AllenEagle06]

My computer sucks...I can't view it.:( Can anyone just post on here?

[AllenEagle06]

Nvm. Thanks TigerDad.

[AllenEagle06]

I knew we wouldn't be seperated from the Plano schools. I don't know why everyone was saying that we would.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

No mo Strake vs Katy chatter on this site.:( I hope StrakeDrake still hangs around. Any word on who Katy's non-district opponents may be?StrakeDrake will stay around. CyFallsMom will more than make him feel welcome. Fleeman93, AZTiger and myself will in one way or another stay engaged in conversation with StrakeDrake.

[dada]

Another thing that bothers me. Why did Houston Lee stay 5A??? They dont even have enough students to field a football team. They dropped football from the school YEARS ago. So basicly...that's giving all the other schools another bye. Why not send Lee to 4a and put Strake with the HISD schools that are more in the area??

[The Lone Ranger]

Another thing that bothers me. Why did Houston Lee stay 5A??? They dont even have enough students to field a football team. They dropped football from the school YEARS ago. So basicly...that's giving all the other schools another bye. Why not send Lee to 4a and put Strake with the HISD schools that are more in the area??

Lee's student body isn't interested in football. That doesn't mean that they don't have the enrollment to support it.

They have almost any other sport you could imagine...but football is expensive and it isn't worth it if only 30 kids out of 3000 or so come out for football.

Besides...5A is automatically just the 245 largest schools (though I counted 246 this alignment). Lee is in that number safely. You can't just "send them down."

[dada]

Lee's student body isn't interested in football. That doesn't mean that they don't have the enrollment to support it.

They have almost any other sport you could imagine...but football is expensive and it isn't worth it if only 30 kids out of 3000 or so come out for football.

Besides...5A is automatically just the 245 largest schools (though I counted 246 this alignment). Lee is in that number safely. You can't just "send them down."
What's their enrollment? Is it "Safely" in 5A or where they on the bubble? I know they lost some students to Westside I beleive.

[JagDad07]

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Fort Worth Paschal up and dropped football one year. The school is huge (3000 or so), but they only have 20 something kids on their team.

Now, in baseball, and the country club sports - they are salty!

[ruffshod]

Lee's student body isn't interested in football. That doesn't mean that they don't have the enrollment to support it.

They have almost any other sport you could imagine...but football is expensive and it isn't worth it if only 30 kids out of 3000 or so come out for football.

Besides...5A is automatically just the 245 largest schools (though I counted 246 this alignment). Lee is in that number safely. You can't just "send them down."

True. They're more interested in soccer. I wouldn't be surprised if the basketball team goes away in the near future too.

[ruffshod]

I was so hoping the predictions would come true, but I guess you can't always get your wish. I sure hope like hell we don't play a soft non district schedual like we have the past couple of years. We have got to play at least one good team instead of three mediocre teams if we expect to go deep in the playoffs.

And they totally missed out on a potentially great community rivalry. Go figure.:confused:

[Purple Haze]

Yessssssss!! They left the LSWC intact!!!!!!! That'll work. :)

[dragonsdaddy]

Yessssssss!! They left the LSWC intact!!!!!!! That'll work. :)
who's going to be the class of the west next season? i assume abilene will recover despite having several high profile graduates to replace. will the mids or the os be any good?

[Purple Haze]

who's going to be the class of the west next season? i assume abilene will recover despite having several high profile graduates to replace. will the mids or the os be any good?

Thats the nice thing about 4 teams going for us. OHS was playing good ball but couldn't get by AHS or MHS. They will go to the POs this year. IMHO, the 4 reps will be AHS, MHS, LHS, and OHS. Cooper and Mojo may surprise me but I think they are a year off.:cool:

[cougardude]

Yessssssss!! They left the LSWC intact!!!!!!! That'll work. :)


I'll take that!:D :D

[dragonsdaddy]

Thats the nice thing about 4 teams going for us. OHS was playing good ball but couldn't get by AHS or MHS. They will go to the POs this year. IMHO, the 4 reps will be AHS, MHS, LHS, and OHS. Cooper and Mojo may surprise me but I think they are a year off.:cool:
not making the po's in a 6 team district will really hurt some feelings. i wonder if the uilsters took that into consideration. i mean if you go a smooth 2-8 and are 1-4 in district, and don't win the tie breaker, your psyche would be forever scarred. i mean, doesn't every 2-8 team deserve a po game?

[Big Daddy Cool]

And they totally missed out on a potentially great community rivalry. Go figure.:confused:


In order for something to be called a rivarly one team has to have beaten the other team a time or two. As it stands now many that would consider North Shore as being their rival are simply mistaken. There is no way in heaven or hell that Channelview would have been able to last more than two minutes with us. As I see it North Shore is still searching for that team to call our rival. Ther closest teams I would consider such would be IKE,Baytown Lee,Westfield may be. Other than that we don't have a true rival.

[jtk1519]

The Little Southwest Conference is DEAD. How the hell can we take pride in our district now when 67% of the teams make the playoffs?!?! What a f'n joke! I would rather be split up and put in a big district with the Panhandle schools or the Metroplex schools, then have to put up with the diluted and pathetic state of affairs we will have to put up with for the next two years. At least in a big district, you would have to earn a playoff spot. Now, you can suck *** and still get in. :mad:

[Tut]

Another thing that bothers me. Why did Houston Lee stay 5A??? They dont even have enough students to field a football team. They dropped football from the school YEARS ago. So basicly...that's giving all the other schools another bye. Why not send Lee to 4a and put Strake with the HISD schools that are more in the area??

I don't see Houston Lee.

Never mind, just not football.

[Tut]

Lee's student body isn't interested in football. That doesn't mean that they don't have the enrollment to support it.

They have almost any other sport you could imagine...but football is expensive and it isn't worth it if only 30 kids out of 3000 or so come out for football.

Besides...5A is automatically just the 245 largest schools (though I counted 246 this alignment). Lee is in that number safely. You can't just "send them down."

I counted 246 also at first glance. Dist. 9 has Richardson Lake Highlands on two lines. So it is 245.

[dragonsdaddy]

I counted 246 also at first glance. Dist. 9 has Richardson Lake Highlands on two lines. So it is 245.
one houston district has houston as a school by itself. i don't remember a houston high school.

[Shoot2thrill]

The Little Southwest Conference is DEAD. How the hell can we take pride in our district now when 67% of the teams make the playoffs?!?! What a f'n joke! I would rather be split up and put in a big district with the Panhandle schools or the Metroplex schools, then have to put up with the diluted and pathetic state of affairs we will have to put up with for the next two years. At least in a big district, you would have to earn a playoff spot. Now, you can suck *** and still get in. :mad:

Quit mincing words there Cougar fan!!;) I can see your point to an extent but I would like to point out a couple of things. Do you really want to play in a district with the Amarillo and Lubbock teams?? Other than Monty, where is the challenge in that? The Fort Worth district schools you say?? Again, except for possibly Mansfield Summit, the top 2-3 LSWC schools would regularly run the table in that district IMHO. It would take some courage for the UIL honchos to break up a district with the rich tradition that we have. I never really bought into the naysayers that felt we were doomed this time around. Yes we have lost some luster. But we are still one of the top 3 districts in the state I believe. Rock on LSWC. :)

[jtk1519]

Quit mincing words there Cougar fan!!;) I can see your point to an extent but I would like to point out a couple of things. Do you really want to play in a district with the Amarillo and Lubbock teams?? Other than Monty, where is the challenge in that? The Fort Worth district schools you say?? Again, except for possibly Mansfield Summit, the top 2-3 LSWC schools would regularly run the table in that district IMHO. It would take some courage for the UIL honchos to break up a district with the rich tradition that we have. I never really bought into the naysayers that felt we were doomed this time around. Yes we have lost some luster. But we are still one of the top 3 districts in the state I believe. Rock on LSWC. :)

The greatness of what was the LSWC was established because the strength of the district forged through fierce competition what would be just one or two battle tested teams that could then go forth and fight for a state title. To call yourself a playoff team from our district used to be something special. Just saying that meant you were better than more than half the teams in the state. What we have now is the luster of potential greatness dulled by mediocrity and diluted beyond recognition... all in the name of money.

As much as it would pain me to see my Cougars stuck in a district with the Lubbock and Amarillo schools, or the Western Metroplex... I welcome that painful thought over the nausea inducing thought of seeing a 1-4 team representing the once great Little Southwest Conference in the playoffs. Some great giants were meant to die with honor and dignity... the LSWC is being forced to live on as a pathetic shell of its former self and that makes me sick.

[The Lone Ranger]

"Houston" is Sam Houston High School of Houston.

There are 246. 18 schools are new or rising, and 17 schools dropped. There are 245 football schools, and 246 for basketball.

[covefan2008]

Copperas Cove moved down to 4a with Waco, sooo you know we'll be dominatin'!

[LoneRocket]

Copperas Cove moved down to 4a with Waco, sooo you know we'll be dominatin'!
Do not underestimate 4a programs, that is how upsets happen.

[LoneRocket]

Enrollment numbers

http://www.chron.com/sports/highschool/

look under other sports towards the bottom.

[dada]

Enrollment numbers

http://www.chron.com/sports/highschool/

look under other sports towards the bottom.
The Chronicle has Districts 15-5A ans 17-5A the same...what is Strake's enrollment?

[RocklandDragon]

Enrollment numbers

http://www.chron.com/sports/highschool/

look under other sports towards the bottom.

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that Midland High and Midland Lee were closer to 2,000 than 3,000. Do they have the same setup as Lubbock ISD schools (where 9th grade is attended at Junior High campuses) have--well used to have? LISD will now have 9th graders in all high school campuses this year.

:cool:

[GRP05]

I'm looking the district alignments for the 2003-2004 season. I was wondering if past years are recorded somewhere public. Can anyone help me out?

[dada]

I'm looking the district alignments for the 2003-2004 season. I was wondering if past years are recorded somewhere public. Can anyone help me out?
http://www.texasfootballratings.com/PastYearsRecords.html

[dada]

http://www.texasfootballratings.com/PastYearsRecords.html
Funny...since 1986 only Katy has more wins in Region 3 than Houston Lamar. They are always knocking on the door.

[GoRangers]

Even if that is true... 3 of 4 teams making the playoffs?!?! That is sooooooo stupid.

Check out 3A District 2. Presidio is basketball only; so, it's a bye for District 1 in football. Regardless of record, I guess they make the basketball playoffs. Laughable.

[bubbacoach]

5A 1985 & Up 245 schools
4A 950 to 1984 230 schools
3A 415 to 949 179 schools
2A 195 to 414 236 schools
1A 194 and below 150 eleven man football schools

How close do you think we are to having a 6A?

Here are the numbers before there was a 5A.

1978-1980
4A 1260 and up
3A 580 to 1259
2A 255 to 579
1A 129 to 254

[RocklandDragon]

http://www.texasfootballratings.com/PastYearsRecords.html

This website has the Texas HS football brackets of every year (5A-sixman). That's awesome. Pulled up 1975 (my school lost 35-0).

[jtk1519]

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that Midland High and Midland Lee were closer to 2,000 than 3,000. Do they have the same setup as Lubbock ISD schools (where 9th grade is attended at Junior High campuses) have--well used to have? LISD will now have 9th graders in all high school campuses this year.

:cool:

The Midland schools do have seperate freshman campuses, but it doesn't matter since the UIL counts grades 9-12 regardless of how the high school is set up. In the case of high schools that house grades 10-12, the UIL takes the enrollment number of the high school and then multiplies that by 1.6 to get the 9-12 enrollment number.

[lonny23]

All 4 schools that come out of 265a will be ready for the playoffs. The sad thing is that when you look at the district, there will be a team that won't make the playoffs and could have made some noise if they were in another district.

SV -reloading but always strong now
Judson -Judson is Judson. Will lose talent to Wagner but will be there at the end
Reagan -getting stronger every year.
Churchill -Can Finuzzi stay healthy. If yes, then they will be a playoff team
Mac -best team in 5 years but will it be enough in 265a.
Madison -Streety always brings a team to play no matter what they lose.
Roosevelt -a lot of young talent last year. Can they stay up with the big boys
Wagner -Judson 1a?
That is an 8-team district that has 8 teams who could make the playoffs in many districts across the state. 4 good teams won't make the playoffs. Lee has been bad for years and some of the other teams weren't so hot in recent years, but based upon this last year, all those teams will be pretty good in the future.

[lonny23]

one houston district has houston as a school by itself. i don't remember a houston high school.
It's Houston Sam Houston high school and they were the worst team in 5A football last year.

[lonny23]

5A 1985 & Up 245 schools
4A 950 to 1984 230 schools
3A 415 to 949 179 schools
2A 195 to 414 236 schools
1A 194 and below 150 eleven man football schools

How close do you think we are to having a 6A?

Here are the numbers before there was a 5A.

1978-1980
4A 1260 and up
3A 580 to 1259
2A 255 to 579
1A 129 to 254
We need a 6A, but not for the large schools. We need a 6A so 3A and 4A are more competitive by turning them into 3A-5A and make the current 5A pretty much into 6A.

[RocklandDragon]

The Midland schools do have seperate freshman campuses, but it doesn't matter since the UIL counts grades 9-12 regardless of how the high school is set up. In the case of high schools that house grades 10-12, the UIL takes the enrollment number of the high school and then multiplies that by 1.6 to get the 9-12 enrollment number.

No wonder Lubbock High's enrollment last go around was estimated at 3,010. Since Lubbock has 1,731 students (grades 10-12), their estimated enrollment would be 2,770 (rounded up). Talk about inflation (we only have two junior highs that feed into LHS).
:confused:

How does Plano setup their schools? Is Plano, Plano East, Plano West 11th-12th grade campus only and they have other schools that are Freshmen Sophmore level? Their enrollment of students is large (5652 for Plano East, 5122 for Plano, West has 4156). Someone proposed that idea for Lubbock ISD to follow this setup.
:eek:

:cool:

[LoneRocket]

We need a 6A, but not for the large schools. We need a 6A so 3A and 4A are more competitive by turning them into 3A-5A and make the current 5A pretty much into 6A.
The following article explains about a failed attempt of a 6A type classification.

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/highschool/02/3SportsByGeorge.html

[farmerfan]

No wonder Lubbock High's enrollment last go around was estimated at 3,010. Since Lubbock has 1,731 students (grades 10-12), their estimated enrollment would be 2,770 (rounded up). Talk about inflation (we only have two junior highs that feed into LHS).
:confused:

How does Plano setup their schools? Is Plano, Plano East, Plano West 11th-12th grade campus only and they have other schools that are Freshmen Sophmore level? Their enrollment of students is large (5652 for Plano East, 5122 for Plano, West has 4156). Someone proposed that idea for Lubbock ISD to follow this setup.
:eek:

:cool:

The plano setup is accurate. In Lewisville when Marcus was built it was a 9-10th grade school. They then turned it into a senior high in 1986. If I remember hearing correctly, the LISD was very close to keeping that setup but it was voted down by the parents around 1984 or so.

[SVite]

What a joke ! Can you say "got gas" !Corpus,San Antonio,and Victoria......Sure glad Lee left 26 5A , or SV would be a traveling road show.The UIL really fumbled here! Thats crazy!:eek: :confused:

District 27 Corpus Christi Carroll Corpus Christi King Corpus Christi Ray San Antonio E. Central San Antonio Highlands San Antonio Southwest Victoria Memorial

[lonny23]

What a joke ! Can you say "got gas" !Corpus,San Antonio,and Victoria......Sure glad Lee left 26 5A , or SV would be a traveling road show.The UIL really fumbled here! Thats crazy!:eek: :confused:

District 27 Corpus Christi Carroll Corpus Christi King Corpus Christi Ray San Antonio E. Central San Antonio Highlands San Antonio Southwest Victoria Memorial
All I can say is that's welfare at it's finest. They put the schools from 28-5A in with the weak sisters of San Antonio instead of really making them play somebody in district.

[DirtyHarry01]

And how many state football championships did 26-5a win last season? About as many as 19-9a, zero, zilch, nada....You get my drift.

[odessapermian.com]

No wonder Lubbock High's enrollment last go around was estimated at 3,010. Since Lubbock has 1,731 students (grades 10-12), their estimated enrollment would be 2,770 (rounded up). Talk about inflation (we only have two junior highs that feed into LHS).
:confused:


:eek:

:cool:

Same as in Odessa. Permian actually has around 2200 students grades 10-12 on campus, but using the UIL formula, plus the addition of students from another campus (the Career Center) Permian is listed as having 4000+ students this go around. :eek:

[KLH75287]

No disrespect intended, but 15-5A looks like a real yawner. With 4 teams going to the playoffs though, this could be interesting......NOT !!!

GO PACK IN '06

[The Lone Ranger]

A lot of enrollment numbers look very skewed...several look like they were multiplied twice.

I guarantee you that LD Bell does not have 2709 students in 10-12. That number is the 2037 or so they have times 1.33. The UIL is then multiplying the number they got by 1.33 again, for a grand total of 1.77. Talk about inflation.

I know they did that for Granbury and Lake Highlands as well.

I also believe that they did that for the Odessa schools as well.

I really doubt that Permian has 3064 students in 10-12. I guarantee you that that is the actual number times 1.33, which the UIL multiplied again. The number 2303.76 might make a little more sense. Odessa High's number is really convuluted. The UIL listed Odessa High as a 4 grade school (they said Permian has 3). I thought that both schools use the 7-9, 10-12 setup. OHS's enrollment is listed as 3916 for 4 grades. That also seems really high--I really doubt that OHS's enrollment for 9-12 went up 1000 from 2 years ago. I actually think that the 3916 is too high, so OHS would have 2944 for 10-12. That seems really high too. If you divide 2944 by 1.33 you come up with 2213.81, which seems much more realistic.

From looking at the ste enrollment reports (http://www.tea.state.tx.us/adhocrpt/adste05.html) site, Odessa has had around 2100 and Permian around 1900.

What are the actual enrollments for the Odessa schools?

A lot of schools had skewed numbers. Does the UIL examine these before setting the numbers to be used for division placement?

[BigtimeO-line]

Pflugerville? wasn't that a 4A school, will they make noise in 5A, does anyone have info on them?

[The Lone Ranger]

Pflugerville? wasn't that a 4A school, will they make noise in 5A, does anyone have info on them?

They've been 5A for as long as I can remember.

Two newer schools in Pflugerville ISD, Connally and Hendrickson, are 4A. But Pflugerville High School is 5A and has been for a while.

[The Lone Ranger]

SA Lee has been elevated to 26-5A, which becomes a 9 team district.

This means that 5A now has 246 football teams, over the limit of 245 stated in the UIL bylaws. However, I highly doubt that the UIL will drop Abilene Cooper into 4A.

However, the Lee situation causes big problems with scheduling--most of 26-5A has had to drop non-district games with schools in 27-4A. These schools are now having to look for games farther away (18-3A, which also had a school get elevated because they screwed up the numbers, is the main target).

So Lee's dishonorable attempt to go to 4A now is having serious repurcussions as far down the line as 3A.

[desotoeaglesgrad]

OK, I hate to tell you so, but I TOLD YOU SO! DeSoto, Duncanville, & Cedar Hill are going to be almost impossible to seperate now that they have basically made it clear that they will all appeal if not kept together. They are too close in proximity to not stay together from now on. Besides, why break up what is becoming the most powerful trio in high school basketball in the state.

Going for the sweep in bball this year! Go Eagles

[dragonsdaddy]

from a proximity perspective, ch, dville and desoto make perfect sense. however in the uil's eyes, making districts into some workable mileau is more important than some threat of appeal. hopefully the uil can keep pleasing as many people as possible with their choices.

[slorch]

does anyone know of any major appeals of the alignment?

[LoneRocket]

does anyone know of any major appeals of the alignment?
Just the UIL sticking 11 or 12 Fort Worth Schools in the same 4A district.

[The Lone Ranger]

Just the UIL sticking 11 or 12 Fort Worth Schools in the same 4A district.

No appeal is being made. The UIL has already switched 2 FWISD schools to 6-4A, giving both 6 and 7 9 teams for everything but football. For football, they will keep it at 11 teams because they already made the schedules, and that would significantly impact every team's schedule (every team would have to drop 4 or 5 non-district games). So FWISD will zone 7-4A, with there being 6 teams in one zone and 5 in the other.

I don't know if any 5A schools will appeal their alignment. Our coaches have every right to appeal our district placement (we're over a half-hour from all of our district opponents, when there are 3 district geographically closer), but we won't complain. We're just happy to compete (and dominate in just about everything but football).

[slorch]

No appeal is being made. The UIL has already switched 2 FWISD schools to 6-4A, giving both 6 and 7 9 teams for everything but football. For football, they will keep it at 11 teams because they already made the schedules, and that would significantly impact every team's schedule (every team would have to drop 4 or 5 non-district games). So FWISD will zone 7-4A, with there being 6 teams in one zone and 5 in the other.

I don't know if any 5A schools will appeal their alignment. Our coaches have every right to appeal our district placement (we're over a half-hour from all of our district opponents, when there are 3 district geographically closer), but we won't complain. We're just happy to compete (and dominate in just about everything but football).

over 1/2 an hour, what a bunch of troopers your team must be, handling that busride and all...

I'm sorry, i can't help it. I played in Wichita Falls and my senior year at Abernathy( by Lubbock). I compare 1/2 hour drive to what we used to do and just smile.

[The Lone Ranger]

over 1/2 an hour, what a bunch of troopers your team must be, handling that busride and all...

I'm sorry, i can't help it. I played in Wichita Falls and my senior year at Abernathy( by Lubbock). I compare 1/2 hour drive to what we used to do and just smile.

That's why I said we won't complain.

San Angelo Central makes a 12-hour round trip district game to Amarillo each year.

Now THAT'S travel.

[KattTx]

A lot of enrollment numbers look very skewed...several look like they were multiplied twice.

I guarantee you that LD Bell does not have 2709 students in 10-12. That number is the 2037 or so they have times 1.33. The UIL is then multiplying the number they got by 1.33 again, for a grand total of 1.77. Talk about inflation.

I know they did that for Granbury and Lake Highlands as well.

I also believe that they did that for the Odessa schools as well.

I really doubt that Permian has 3064 students in 10-12. I guarantee you that that is the actual number times 1.33, which the UIL multiplied again. The number 2303.76 might make a little more sense. Odessa High's number is really convuluted. The UIL listed Odessa High as a 4 grade school (they said Permian has 3). I thought that both schools use the 7-9, 10-12 setup. OHS's enrollment is listed as 3916 for 4 grades. That also seems really high--I really doubt that OHS's enrollment for 9-12 went up 1000 from 2 years ago. I actually think that the 3916 is too high, so OHS would have 2944 for 10-12. That seems really high too. If you divide 2944 by 1.33 you come up with 2213.81, which seems much more realistic.

From looking at the ste enrollment reports (http://www.tea.state.tx.us/adhocrpt/adste05.html) site, Odessa has had around 2100 and Permian around 1900.

What are the actual enrollments for the Odessa schools?

A lot of schools had skewed numbers. Does the UIL examine these before setting the numbers to be used for division placement?

I can tell you that there is no reason for the Career Center numbers to be added to either the Permian or OHS numbers. It is a seperate campus unto itself. Permian is probably around 2000, give or take a few. OHS, bigger by about 500.

[HebronHawk]

The plano setup is accurate. In Lewisville when Marcus was built it was a 9-10th grade school. They then turned it into a senior high in 1986. If I remember hearing correctly, the LISD was very close to keeping that setup but it was voted down by the parents around 1984 or so.

The Lewisville ISD is looking at 9th grade centers again.

[The Lone Ranger]

The Lewisville ISD is looking at 9th grade centers again.

LHS already has one, don't they? I think that Marcus and FM need them. TC and Hebron are probably good--they really aren't too big.

[HebronHawk]

LHS already has one, don't they? I think that Marcus and FM need them. TC and Hebron are probably good--they really aren't too big.

LHS already has one. Hebron is growing quickly. There is probably an existing need in Flower Mound.

[HebronHawk]

does anyone know of any major appeals of the alignment?

It was reported in the Dallas Morning News that Wylie is appealing their assignment to 9-5A. They would like an easier district with the Garland schools.

[dragonsdaddy]

It was reported in the Dallas Morning News that Wylie is appealing their assignment to 9-5A. They would like an easier district with the Garland schools.
wylie doesn't look too whiny huh? they don't want to play with the real big boys. they'd rather try out with little old garland. i wonder if the uil will serve cheese at the hearing?

[HebronHawk]

wylie doesn't look too whiny huh? they don't want to play with the real big boys. they'd rather try out with little old garland. i wonder if the uil will serve cheese at the hearing?

I'd be embarassed to be from Wylie right now. What's the real basis for their appeal? "My district's too tough" :D

[dragonsdaddy]

I'd be embarassed to be from Wylie right now. What's the real basis for their appeal? "My district's too tough" :D
they are b!tching about the size discrepancies between the largest schools and wylie(richardson is in the same boat). they are really saying that there ought to be a 6a, but would take a change in districts. the uil ought to "allow" them to be switched to the et district. those schools aren't terribly large. they'd be happy then, you think?

[Oldlynx]

That's why I said we won't complain.

San Angelo Central makes a 12-hour round trip district game to Amarillo each year.

Now THAT'S travel.

Shoot, it's a half-hour drive to our fieldhouse...:)

[mojo61]

Shoot, it's a half-hour drive to our fieldhouse...:)

Pulling San Angelo out of the LSWC to send them up to the Amarillo dist. has to rank right up there w/ the most idiotic things the UIL has come up w/ in recent yrs., esp. since the Abilene & Mid.-Odessa schls. are located just 80-120 mi. up the road--nothing should surprise anyone these days.

[mojotrain]

Folks, this 4 team playoff system is the politicaly correct thing to do,we should make efforts to make this sport a kinder event so we won't damage the kids egos. We will give little mini tropys to those who don't make the play offs and maybe later on stop keeping score. And play for funzies. We should reward mediocrity.

This is your UIL which is governed by School ADMs and coachs which are elected by us. The problem being, their are more have not than haves.

We have met the enemy and they is us!!!!!!!

[PermianFan27]

Folks, this 4 team playoff system is the politicaly correct thing to do,we should make efforts to make this sport a kinder event so we won't damage the kids egos. We will give little mini tropys to those who don't make the play offs and maybe later on stop keeping score. And play for funzies. We should reward mediocrity.

This is your UIL which is governed by School ADMs and coachs which are elected by us. The problem being, their are more have not than haves.

We have met the enemy and they is us!!!!!!!

I don't think it could have been said any better...

[Hurricane05]

Why is Strake Jesuit playing with Cy-fair schools when they did a fine job in the Katy/Alief district which they were closer to?

[Tut]

Why is Strake Jesuit playing with Cy-fair schools when they did a fine job in the Katy/Alief district which they were closer to?
With Morton Ranch being in 5A this year, there are 8 Katy-Alief schools. Cy Fair has 7, so Strake went there to make even teamed districts.