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canefan08
10-19-2009, 06:18 PM
this is a team who lost a hard fought game in the state game last year with a better defense and an offense that is coming along with every game, regardless of how weak people say the schedule is it is still the same as last year, we could beat teams by 60+ a game if Hallmark wasn't the type to put in his back-ups after a good lead

WHY NO RESPECT GUYS???

Big Daddy Cool
10-19-2009, 06:31 PM
The Canes definitely have this Mustangs respect.

CCDawgs
10-19-2009, 06:55 PM
this is a team who lost a hard fought game in the state game last year with a better defense and an offense that is coming along with every game, regardless of how weak people say the schedule is it is still the same as last year, we could beat teams by 60+ a game if Hallmark wasn't the type to put in his back-ups after a good lead

WHY NO RESPECT GUYS???

Hightower does have the respect. They are just flying underneath the radar a tad bit this year. I always love GREAT defensive ball :notworthy

dada
10-19-2009, 07:14 PM
Who's not respecting them?

Beanz
10-19-2009, 07:18 PM
i think some c hill cats were. but whatever hightower will show everyone how serious they are come playoffs.

MemorialMustangs
10-19-2009, 07:19 PM
U have my respect... No doubt I dont want to run into Hightower in the playoffs... But needless to say u shouldnt care too much ;) ... If u make a run like last year you wont need to ask for it!

AE 8008
10-19-2009, 07:36 PM
youre not the only ones so dont take it personally. there are several undefeated teams that have one and two loss teams in front of them. Its all how the KTs see it, its their poll. No disrespect towards any team

TX5AFanatic
10-19-2009, 07:48 PM
Cane:

You and I see the same team week after week (have probably sat next to each other) and the same results. Elkins was the first game I saw that HT did not use its 2's - and Elkins has a respectable squad this year. I recall a lot of bad blood between HT and Northshore last season. But this season, as far as the posters go, I have seen mutual respect. Someone else mentioned that we are flying under the radar and that is the best way to put it. You and I both know the truth, but not all the moderators can watch each game and see that by the 3rd quarter HT generally has a 4 touchdown lead with no points allowed. They see the lines on paper at the end that show a slow second half offense and a defense tiring. The fact is though that when the 2's come in the scoring stops or slows, and the opponents score a touchdown or 2 if they are lucky.

I like where we are, makes it a big suprise and a "we told you so" situation when playoffs come. Sure it would be nice to be higher ranked, but Hallmark doesn't care about the rankings like any other good coach. Let the other teams runup the score and have the rankings...thats not what wins titles in December. Lets just enjoy the ride and that goes for all of Region 3!

PS: J-Ro has improved dramatically! I was concerned about him being a first year senior varsity quarter back but man has that kid improved! Hes finally running the ball and starting to resemble AJ more and more. We've gone from cat4 to cat5 now ;)

Mr. Rod
10-19-2009, 08:01 PM
I have no lack of respect for Hightower. We at NS have seen what they can bring to the table. But not everyone knows. I say if ya'll have another season similar to Last season respect will be given by more than just the Houston Area and a couple people out of it.

canefan08
10-19-2009, 09:37 PM
Cane:

You and I see the same team week after week (have probably sat next to each other) and the same results. Elkins was the first game I saw that HT did not use its 2's - and Elkins has a respectable squad this year. I recall a lot of bad blood between HT and Northshore last season. But this season, as far as the posters go, I have seen mutual respect. Someone else mentioned that we are flying under the radar and that is the best way to put it. You and I both know the truth, but not all the moderators can watch each game and see that by the 3rd quarter HT generally has a 4 touchdown lead with no points allowed. They see the lines on paper at the end that show a slow second half offense and a defense tiring. The fact is though that when the 2's come in the scoring stops or slows, and the opponents score a touchdown or 2 if they are lucky.

I like where we are, makes it a big suprise and a "we told you so" situation when playoffs come. Sure it would be nice to be higher ranked, but Hallmark doesn't care about the rankings like any other good coach. Let the other teams runup the score and have the rankings...thats not what wins titles in December. Lets just enjoy the ride and that goes for all of Region 3!

PS: J-Ro has improved dramatically! I was concerned about him being a first year senior varsity quarter back but man has that kid improved! Hes finally running the ball and starting to resemble AJ more and more. We've gone from cat4 to cat5 now ;)

yea J Rose really has stepped it up this year making great decisions with the ball, and i guess is may be a good thing that hightower goes unnoticed until the 3rd round of the playoffs like last year

CaneDadCat5
10-19-2009, 11:12 PM
this is a team who lost a hard fought game in the state game last year with a better defense and an offense that is coming along with every game, regardless of how weak people say the schedule is it is still the same as last year, we could beat teams by 60+ a game if Hallmark wasn't the type to put in his back-ups after a good lead

WHY NO RESPECT GUYS???

From one Cane to another, I have been a poster since 12/08 and have been peeking in since 08/08. It's not a matter of disrespect, it is that we are tucked nicely in between Katy, NS, Pearland(this year being the exception). We will not be noticed unless we play a "well known" preseason opponent. Everyone in the state will tell you that our 23(5A) only non district game leaves our whole district looking for respect. Outside of Katy and North Shore, Region III has no rings as of late. Yes we did get to the dance last year but didn't close the deal. Eyes were opened and this year they are waiting to see if last year was a fluke? Is Shane Hallmark winning with another coaches talent? Finally, will we contend with no D1 Caliber linebackers, QB's, Linemen and Recievers. We should not get caught up in the Rankings Wars. You can find rankings, opinions and views on every site. Take a look at these.

RIVALS #16 http://highschool.rivals.com/viewrankhs.asp?ra_key=646
Massey #12 - State
5aTexas Football #15 - State
Dave Campbells # 8 - State
Associated Press # 4 - State
etc...

The respect was earned last year but it must be maintained with continous victories and sealed with a championship ring(s).
Our time will come.

HomeofChampions'06
10-19-2009, 11:21 PM
The lack of respect in some polls may end up helping in the long run. The Hightower Hurricanes are one of the best cohesive teams I've seen in the state whether they are ranked 4th or 24th. Hightower must continue to pound it out in the post season year after year. I have no doubt in my mind that they will be back in the mix of things this year contending for a state title.

v2the4
10-19-2009, 11:36 PM
No program is great from the start. It takes years, even decades for most schools to get to the level that Hightower is at right now. Hightower made the playoffs in their first year of varsity football in 2000, when there were only three schools from each district who made it.

In Hightowers nine years of playing varsity football, they have been to the playoffs eight times. they missed the playoffs in 2005 with a new coach and a group of youngsters playing varsity like then Freshmen qb AJ Highsmith(Miami), then Sophomore receiver Isiah Sweeney(Houston), and then freshman safety Colton Valencia(Texas A&M). All of those young men are playing D1 college football today. They have been to one state title game. They played in one state semifinal game. they played in three regional final games. Have made the regional semifinals (third round of playoffs) five times, and have two district titles and two shared titles in those eight years. They never finished lower than third in their district, expect the non playoff season of 2005, where they finished fifth.

In my opinion, Hightowers best team, the 2004 team that went 10-0 on the field, and had nine D1 scholarships that year(but were forced to forfeit two district games, along with four other fbisd schools that season because of off campus classes for athletes(all schools turned in by Fort bend marshall), but ended up at 8-2 and had to play Katy in the first round, losing to Katy 34-21..they would have probably met Katy in the regional finals anyway(Katy went on to lose to SLC in the state title game that year, after beating them in 2003)

I have been watching Hightower ever since the school opened in 1999, and I moved into the attendence zone in 2000. They have a great football program over there, started by Kevin O'Keefe(now at Seven Lakes), continued somewhat by Gene Johnson(now at Cypress Ranch) and with Shane Hallmark in his second year, he has taken the program to a new level.

Hightowers resume would trump any other 5A school in Houston the last ten years, except Katy, North Shore, and quite possibly Lufkin, who have all won state titles during this decade.

in closing, the polls mean nothing...the rankings are garbage....this isnt the BCS (literally, without the C)...we play the game on the field....its win and advance. coach Hallmark respects all of his district opponents, even though he knows he is head and shoulders better then all of them, and he says they are taking it one game at a time.....

Cant wait till the playoffs, when real teams gain their respect.

EaglePower
10-19-2009, 11:48 PM
You have my respect- you were less than 10 points from a state title last year. Those rankings would probably be looking a lot different this year had that been the case

78 Spartan
10-20-2009, 12:26 AM
If I were ranking Region 3, I'd have Hightower as my #1.

But the problem the FBISD schools have, the district is considered weak overall, and you only have one nondistrict game to prove anything to the rest of the region. Instead of playing Ike, if you were playing Katy or North Shore or even Pearland, or Westfield or The Woodlands or Lufkin from Region 2, that would get more people's attention.

jnwash
10-20-2009, 07:21 AM
If I were ranking Region 3, I'd have Hightower as my #1.

But the problem the FBISD schools have, the district is considered weak overall, and you only have one nondistrict game to prove anything to the rest of the region. Instead of playing Ike, if you were playing Katy or North Shore or even Pearland, or Westfield or The Woodlands or Lufkin from Region 2, that would get more people's attention.
You can't be serious about Hightower being ranked No.1 . Take a step back, last year
you had a great season and you beat N. Shore, made it to the championship game but you didn't close the deal. You could not possibly think you should be mentioned as one of the perennial powers in the state because you had one great season. You're not at that level yet.

canefan08
10-20-2009, 11:49 AM
You can't be serious about Hightower being ranked No.1 . Take a step back, last year
you had a great season and you beat N. Shore, made it to the championship game but you didn't close the deal. You could not possibly think you should be mentioned as one of the perennial powers in the state because you had one great season. You're not at that level yet.

if not then who is??

MK2234
10-20-2009, 11:49 AM
You can't be serious about Hightower being ranked No.1 . Take a step back, last year
you had a great season and you beat N. Shore, made it to the championship game but you didn't close the deal. You could not possibly think you should be mentioned as one of the perennial powers in the state because you had one great season. You're not at that level yet.

They beat all the good teams in region 3 last year, so if they repeat as region 3 champs, then what? They are underated. I dont care who ya play, when you've played 7 games and only given up 45 points, and 20 of them have been against 2nd stringers, your good. Did anyone see the Elkins game? That open field tackle Jeremy Woodson made against Jolly was outstanding. Cane Dad, I know you saw it. Im a proud follower, they represent the city well. Mo City that is.

85Roughneck
10-20-2009, 11:53 AM
Who's not respecting them?

that's what I was going to ask.

slcdragonfan
10-20-2009, 12:10 PM
if not then who is??


Wylie...

ThEgReAtOnE
10-20-2009, 12:30 PM
This year, I've seen North Shore, Katy, SLC, The Woodlands, Cedar Hill, Desoto, Duncanville, Klein Forest, Klein Oak, Spring Westfield, Cinco Ranch, Morton Ranch, FB Hightower, and FB Elkins.

I can say, without doubt, Hightower is every bit as good as North Shore, Katy, SLC, Cedar Hill, Desoto, Klein Forest, and Spring Westfield. I was in attendance for the Elkins/Hightower game! Why isn't QB-Rosborough (6'2 190 lbs) getting more attention? He's prolly the best 5A QB, I've seen in Houston, this year. The kid can run and pass, if need be. The RB's and WR's all have playmaking ability and speed! The OL is very solid and handled a pumped up and overly-aggressive defense, pretty well. LB-Shaun Lewis (#11) is a beast, but so is #9 MLB. Also, #55 on defense is a hoss! While I'm on it.. #1 at SS is a freak of nature. He looks like 6'4 195 lbs and seems to make plays, effortlessly! I assume FB Hightower doesn't get much talk because they don't score a ton of points. Hightower is far and away the best team in 23-5A, this year! However, let me say that I think 23-5A teams like FB Travis, FB Elkins, and FB Clements would all be contenders for District Titles in several other districts, across the state.

North Shore better be ready because it will be as tough, if not tougher, than last year, to beat Hightower.

Just a few D1 athletes for Hightower...
QB-Justin Rosborough (Will get a ton of looks!)
RB-John Parrham (Interest from Texas A&M)
RB-Bralon Addison (SO, will get a ton of looks!)
WR-Stephen Gardner (TCU, UH, Iowa State)
OL-Jordan Becker (Interest from Virginia, Boise State)
DE-Uchenna Nwabuike (SMU committ)
DT-Shaun Lewis (Oklahoma State committ)
LB-Jermane Longino (Interest from UH, Oklahoma State, TCU)
CB-Jeremy Woodson (Texas A&M, UH, UTEP, MSU)
SS-Harvey Jackson (Nebraska committ)

Red Raider Rick
10-20-2009, 12:44 PM
Rosborough is a SR.

tjw
10-20-2009, 12:44 PM
From one Cane to another, I have been a poster since 12/08 and have been peeking in since 08/08. It's not a matter of disrespect, it is that we are tucked nicely in between Katy, NS, Pearland(this year being the exception). We will not be noticed unless we play a "well known" preseason opponent. Everyone in the state will tell you that our 23(5A) only non district game leaves our whole district looking for respect. Outside of Katy and North Shore, Region III has no rings as of late. Yes we did get to the dance last year but didn't close the deal. Eyes were opened and this year they are waiting to see if last year was a fluke? Is Shane Hallmark winning with another coaches talent? Finally, will we contend with no D1 Caliber linebackers, QB's, Linemen and Recievers. We should not get caught up in the Rankings Wars. You can find rankings, opinions and views on every site. Take a look at these.

RIVALS #16 http://highschool.rivals.com/viewrankhs.asp?ra_key=646
Massey #12 - State
5aTexas Football #15 - State
Dave Campbells # 8 - State
Associated Press # 4 - State
etc...

The respect was earned last year but it must be maintained with continous victories and sealed with a championship ring(s).
Our time will come.

Think this sums it up pretty well especially the district comment. I honestly don't think anyone is disrepecting Hightower, at least I'm not. Also, keep in mind nothing like flying under the radar a little.;)

TX5AFanatic
10-20-2009, 01:18 PM
Why isn't QB-Rosborough (6'2 190 lbs) getting more attention? He's prolly the best 5A QB, I've seen in Houston, this year. The kid can run and pass, if need be.


Last year AJ had all the attention. No one really knew what our QB slot was going to be like this year. However Justin has gone from a strict thrower to a carrier/passer. He didnt start moving the ball himself until just a few weeks ago. Those of us who have seen all of HT's games have literally seen him progress with each game becomming more and more agressive on the ground. He has been incredibly smart in what he does with the ball and he is starting to reap the benefits and it wont be long before colleges start noticing...if they havent already.

Sadly for Jordan Becker, his injury has ended his football career. I believe all his interests have been pulled, but I may be wrong on that one.

That being said, it is nice to see one such as yourself (TGO) giving HT their props - always enjoy your posts and comments. You gave us some strong words in that post and there arent many if any people on here who can refute your words. :notworthy

78 Spartan
10-20-2009, 01:50 PM
You can't be serious about Hightower being ranked No.1 . Take a step back, last year
you had a great season and you beat N. Shore, made it to the championship game but you didn't close the deal. You could not possibly think you should be mentioned as one of the perennial powers in the state because you had one great season. You're not at that level yet.

I am serious. And stop calling me Shirley. ;)

I didn't say Hightower had the most prestigious program in Region 3. I just think they have the best football team in Region 3 in 2009, based on what I've seen.

Last year I saw Hightower three times and they impressed me as the best team in the Houston area, bar none. This year I've seen them only once so far, but they have not missed a beat. They have the swagger of a Region 3 defending champ, and they have the hunger of a team that was denied last year in the title game. That plus a ton of talent and very solid coaching makes for a great team.

Just like all the D2 qualifiers will want to avoid the Katy side of the D2 bracket, my guess is that nobody wants to be on Hightower's side of the D1 bracket this year.

I could be wrong, but that's my opinion, my friend. You are entitled to yours as well. I would love it for Katy to end up in the D1 bracket so we could find out who is right.

KEW
10-20-2009, 02:33 PM
great athletes, great coaching, RESPECT! Anyone who can't figure that Hightower is a very good team must not be very smart.

dada
10-20-2009, 02:43 PM
I am serious. And stop calling me Shirley. ;)

I didn't say Hightower had the most prestigious program in Region 3. I just think they have the best football team in Region 3 in 2009, based on what I've seen.

Last year I saw Hightower three times and they impressed me as the best team in the Houston area, bar none. This year I've seen them only once so far, but they have not missed a beat. They have the swagger of a Region 3 defending champ, and they have the hunger of a team that was denied last year in the title game. That plus a ton of talent and very solid coaching makes for a great team.

Just like all the D2 qualifiers will want to avoid the Katy side of the D2 bracket, my guess is that nobody wants to be on Hightower's side of the D1 bracket this year.

I could be wrong, but that's my opinion, my friend. You are entitled to yours as well. I would love it for Katy to end up in the D1 bracket so we could find out who is right.

I don't see anything wrong with saying that Hightower is the top team in Region 3 right now. You can swap Hightower and The Woodlands around as the top 2 teams in Houston right now.

Speaking of "avoidng", that gut of wind we got earlier could have been your Spartans letting out a sigh of relief after Alief Taylor loss. They can go from Katy round 1 to Mayde Creek..lol:)

78 Spartan
10-20-2009, 05:28 PM
Speaking of "avoidng", that gut of wind we got earlier could have been your Spartans letting out a sigh of relief after Alief Taylor loss. They can go from Katy round 1 to Mayde Creek..lol:)

Heck, that's assuming we beat Strake, which I don't think is going to be a gimme.

Also, Taylor could possibly mess that up by beating Memorial or Elsik and finding their way into the playoffs.

So Stratford might still end up playing Katy. Heck, we could still miss the playoffs, but I doubt it.

canefan08
10-20-2009, 08:29 PM
This year, I've seen North Shore, Katy, SLC, The Woodlands, Cedar Hill, Desoto, Duncanville, Klein Forest, Klein Oak, Spring Westfield, Cinco Ranch, Morton Ranch, FB Hightower, and FB Elkins.

I can say, without doubt, Hightower is every bit as good as North Shore, Katy, SLC, Cedar Hill, Desoto, Klein Forest, and Spring Westfield. I was in attendance for the Elkins/Hightower game! Why isn't QB-Rosborough (6'2 190 lbs) getting more attention? He's prolly the best 5A QB, I've seen in Houston, this year. The kid can run and pass, if need be. The RB's and WR's all have playmaking ability and speed! The OL is very solid and handled a pumped up and overly-aggressive defense, pretty well. LB-Shaun Lewis (#11) is a beast, but so is #9 MLB. Also, #55 on defense is a hoss! While I'm on it.. #1 at SS is a freak of nature. He looks like 6'4 195 lbs and seems to make plays, effortlessly! I assume FB Hightower doesn't get much talk because they don't score a ton of points. Hightower is far and away the best team in 23-5A, this year! However, let me say that I think 23-5A teams like FB Travis, FB Elkins, and FB Clements would all be contenders for District Titles in several other districts, across the state.

North Shore better be ready because it will be as tough, if not tougher, than last year, to beat Hightower.

Just a few D1 athletes for Hightower...
QB-Justin Rosborough (Will get a ton of looks!)
RB-John Parrham (Interest from Texas A&M)
RB-Bralon Addison (SO, will get a ton of looks!)
WR-Stephen Gardner (TCU, UH, Iowa State)
OL-Jordan Becker (Interest from Virginia, Boise State)
DE-Uchenna Nwabuike (SMU committ)
DT-Shaun Lewis (Oklahoma State committ)
LB-Jermane Longino (Interest from UH, Oklahoma State, TCU)
CB-Jeremy Woodson (Texas A&M, UH, UTEP, MSU)
SS-Harvey Jackson (Nebraska committ)



greatly summed up, on another note i think hightower should try and get katy for their non-district game next year..either that or katy needs to move up to division 1 ;)...but i doubt dat will happen

cane19
10-20-2009, 08:58 PM
Who cares about the rankings? It doesn't matter if Hightower is #1 or dropped out of the rankings they will still play their game. Hightower and probably all of the other teams would rather just show what they have on the field.

After last year's seniors graduated I didn't have a lot of hope for this year's team. They don't have the experience that the team had last year. It will be even more so next year because we have a lot of seniors on this team. Somehow, Coach Hallmark and his staff seem to pull it off.

Ok, so here is my ranking:

#1 - Hightower

Is that better?

TX5AFanatic
10-20-2009, 10:46 PM
After last year's seniors graduated I didn't have a lot of hope for this year's team. They don't have the experience that the team had last year. It will be even more so next year because we have a lot of seniors on this team. Somehow, Coach Hallmark and his staff seem to pull it off.



Hallmark doesn't care about individual stats, he cares about doing whats best for the team. HT has a good program year after year because despite lots of seniors (when that is the case) Hallmark always plays as many players when he can afford to. There is enough talent at HT that regardless of age or experience, they put up the numbers to let the 2's and 3's get in their time. Those may be the younger players, but they get to see valuable time to prepare them for the next season as starters. That combined with excellent coaching makes stars for the next season.

Notice how HT doesnt have a single player in the top 10 in individual rankings in the houston area? Its because they are so good they dont have to rely on 1 player to make the big plays. They can spread it out so well its nearly impossible for any one player to have top 10 stats. Given less widespread talent at the school, we may have a RB with a lot of yards, or a receiver, but we dont have anyone up there because we can give the ball to so many people who can move it.

Some players in particular who I have watched develop with each game are QB Justin Rosborough, RB John Parrham, FS Harvey Jackson, RB Johnathan Turner, WR Tee Bracy, and DT Taylor Hicks.

cane19
10-21-2009, 11:21 AM
Hallmark doesn't care about individual stats, he cares about doing whats best for the team. HT has a good program year after year because despite lots of seniors (when that is the case) Hallmark always plays as many players when he can afford to. There is enough talent at HT that regardless of age or experience, they put up the numbers to let the 2's and 3's get in their time. Those may be the younger players, but they get to see valuable time to prepare them for the next season as starters. That combined with excellent coaching makes stars for the next season.

Notice how HT doesnt have a single player in the top 10 in individual rankings in the houston area? Its because they are so good they dont have to rely on 1 player to make the big plays. They can spread it out so well its nearly impossible for any one player to have top 10 stats. Given less widespread talent at the school, we may have a RB with a lot of yards, or a receiver, but we dont have anyone up there because we can give the ball to so many people who can move it.

Some players in particular who I have watched develop with each game are QB Justin Rosborough, RB John Parrham, FS Harvey Jackson, RB Johnathan Turner, WR Tee Bracy, and DT Taylor Hicks.

:notworthy

jnwash
10-21-2009, 12:13 PM
greatly summed up, on another note i think hightower should try and get katy for their non-district game next year..either that or katy needs to move up to division 1 ;)...but i doubt dat will happen
Be careful of what you ask for. Perhaps you need to look at the history between Hightower and Katy.

TX5AFanatic
10-21-2009, 01:35 PM
Be careful of what you ask for. Perhaps you need to look at the history between Hightower and Katy.

I for another would also like to see HT match up against Katy again, the Woodz, or NS in preseason. The last few years I have watched HT play Hastings and Ike preseason. Those teams aren't much competition for HT anymore. Good as Ike usually is in the Houston area, it gets no respect in the state rankings. If HT wants to make a big splash early and have its name crossing peoples minds as far as the DFW area, then we need to play someone else with more state credibility. I think HT has earned its credibility to get a game of that magnitude preseason.

HT does have a rough history with Katy, but the last time they played was under a different coach, strategy, completely different program. Katy has always been a legitimate threat to ruin anyones day all season long, and I think that had the HT kids intimidated. But these kids have seen what great coaching and hard work molds them in to. They come into this program knowing by their varsity season that they will be state contenders.

NS/SLC - That was a game the rest of us contenders should have been jealous to not be participating in, I know I was!

dada
10-21-2009, 01:37 PM
greatly summed up, on another note i think hightower should try and get katy for their non-district game next year..either that or katy needs to move up to division 1 ;)...but i doubt dat will happen

Where is the D1 Sign-up sheet? How do they get in? I didnt know they had a choice...wow.

dada
10-21-2009, 01:39 PM
I for another would also like to see HT match up against Katy again, the Woodz, or NS in preseason. The last few years I have watched HT play Hastings and Ike preseason. Those teams aren't much competition for HT anymore. Good as Ike usually is in the Houston area, it gets no respect in the state rankings. If HT wants to make a big splash early and have its name crossing peoples minds as far as the DFW area, then we need to play someone else with more state credibility. I think HT has earned its credibility to get a game of that magnitude preseason.

HT does have a rough history with Katy, but the last time they played was under a different coach, strategy, completely different program. Katy has always been a legitimate threat to ruin anyones day all season long, and I think that had the HT kids intimidated. But these kids have seen what great coaching and hard work molds them in to. They come into this program knowing by their varsity season that they will be state contenders.

NS/SLC - That was a game the rest of us contenders should have been jealous to not be participating in, I know I was!

The problem with this is...you only have one non-district game....and then people STILL may not give you credit because it's the first game of the season and teams aren't playing up to par.

Hightower fans just need to relax, you guys established yourself as a team to be reckoned with the year the school opened.

slcdragonfan
10-21-2009, 01:55 PM
The problem with this is...you only have one non-district game....and then people STILL may not give you credit because it's the first game of the season and teams aren't playing up to par.

Hightower fans just need to relax, you guys established yourself as a team to be reckoned with the year the school opened.

That. get to the 5th round, get in the final, keep doing what you are doing etc and you are moving to being viewed as a 'program' rather than a 'team'. I am looking forward to seeing you against NS if that happens and if I can get to Houston. My parents loved the game last year.

cane19
10-21-2009, 02:19 PM
In order for Hightower to get a decent preseason game FBISD would have to get a different AD. He seems to be holding the program back and there is nothing we can do about it until he is gone which won't be any time soon.

bigdaddydog
10-21-2009, 03:04 PM
Wylie...

<pokes sharp stick in eye> :D


~

slcdragonfan
10-21-2009, 03:06 PM
<pokes sharp stick in eye> :D


~

sorry about that, but its true, eh?

CaneDadCat5
10-21-2009, 03:55 PM
I was there for that Whippin Katy Gave us a couple of years ago. It wasn't pretty. Last years kids were sophs and it got ugly in a hurry. Although we cannot play in the post season, a preseason game would have been nice. I do not see it for two or three years down the road at the earliest. Katy is still the Measuring Stick for Region III regardless or D1 or D2. They have a program that has produced Championships. The TWHS is the only team over the past 3 years that has a right to say other wise. I say that the only way to gain respect is to confront a champion and not shy away from the challange. Alas, wishes are just dreams that have not been slept on.

Knights1
10-21-2009, 05:41 PM
High School #11 opens Fall '10, and my guess, play varsity ball with the next realignment. It's time to let Willowridge and Marshall drop down to 4A, where they can compete with other schools with like enrollment. This would allow the 23-5A schools to add an additional non-district game. It's difficult to measure how great Hightower is, or how good Clements or Elkins is with out that exposure outside the district until playoff time.

CaneDadCat5
10-21-2009, 05:52 PM
[QUOTE=Knights1;1346403]High School #11 opens Fall '10, and my guess, play varsity ball with the next realignment. It's time to let Willowridge and Marshall drop down to 4A, where they can compete with other schools with like enrollment.QUOTE]

SOAP BOX WARNING!!! :Censor:

Hightower and Elkins will probably go the same way because this school is pulling from both zones. I will not vote for another CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BOND!

v2the4
10-22-2009, 12:51 PM
High School #11 opens Fall '10, and my guess, play varsity ball with the next realignment. It's time to let Willowridge and Marshall drop down to 4A, where they can compete with other schools with like enrollment. This would allow the 23-5A schools to add an additional non-district game. It's difficult to measure how great Hightower is, or how good Clements or Elkins is with out that exposure outside the district until playoff time.

I think Sienna High, or whatever hs 11 will be called, is pulling 575 kids each from Hightower and Elkins....from my last update(since I no longer live in the area), only fourteen kids out of 193 play football that live in the areas that are being rezoned to the new high school....seven of those kids are juniors and will stay at Hightower for 2010.

I think where it will affect Hightower the most is in their academic challenges, like in science, debate, explorers club, math, choir and other non athlethic UIL events...they will lose a lot of top quality students to the new high schools, but the parents out there, and in places far and wide, continue to equate test scores to property taxes....havent found the science on that yet...kinda like equating credit scores to home owners and car insurance rates..doesnt add up at all

Red Raider Rick
10-22-2009, 03:57 PM
The projections I have seen have the following FBISD schools below 2000 students next year.

Willowridge, Marshall, Dulles, Elkins, Hightower and HS#11...

It will be interesting to see the Hightower D without Lewis, Jackson, Woody, Longino, Hobart...If Addison moves to QB the offense will likely still be effective, but will the D still be able to set the tone as it has the last 2 years? The academy system and the underpreforming school transfers will also no longer provide regular contributors as they have in the past. Not suggesting they made the program at all, but those kids not only contributed to Hightower, they also were not contributing to their resident HS. In FBISD football, depth in non-existent. I suspect there are enough strong roots in place to sustain success, but it may become a little more of a challenge.

2010 should be an exciting year in FBISD football with all the 2011 kids playing significant roles.