TPX Predictions

[badger95]

http://texasprepxtra.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=507569

Looks likely to me.

[KT2000]

Very interesting. Still not sold on Lufkin to Region 3, but there's been enough smoke blowing around on that to make me believe there is merit.

[badger95]

I think Region IV will be very similar if not exactly like they predict. Seguin will appeal as they did the last time they were aligned with Austin schools, but to no avail.

Sets up for Region IV Div. I champ, Westlake and Div. II champ Smithson Valley

[Tut]

Only 6 teams in districts 24 & 32. I thought they were going to have at least 7 per district.

[Sicemhorns09]

If this is true... 16 5A looks like a weak district with all of the Klein Schools being split from The Woodlands... Two new schools, Oak Ridge and Conroe...not much power...should be interesting to see if this holds up!! Ooh... the Lufkin and NS district could be fun if it happens...

[AHS Mustangs]

I don't see why they would move the Humble schools to Region II, and Lufkin to Region III. Instead of the Humble schools going to 16 maybe the Spring schools (Spring and Westfield) and leaving Lufkin in there too.

[farmerfan]

If that were to pan out, Allen would have a nightmare of a draw, not because of the competition but because they would have to fight 121 to Lewisville as well as more traffic up to Grapevine. Yikes, they cant be to thrilled about that, of course they would be up there with Hebron as a district frontrunner which I guess they will take.
I would not mind seeing that pan out, Lewisville and Grapevine used to be a pretty fierce rivalry.

[dragonfootballfan]

If that were to pan out, Allen would have a nightmare of a draw, not because of the competition but because they would have to fight 121 to Lewisville as well as more traffic up to Grapevine. Yikes, they cant be to thrilled about that, of course they would be up there with Hebron as a district frontrunner which I guess they will take.
I would not mind seeing that pan out, Lewisville and Grapevine used to be a pretty fierce rivalry.
If it does work out this way, I hope that Carroll can schedule Grapevine in non-district. It is also great because Coppell wants to end its annual rivalry game with Carroll for some reason.

[farmerfan]

If it does work out this way, I hope that Carroll can schedule Grapevine in non-district. It is also great because Coppell wants to end its annual rivalry game with Carroll for some reason.


Yeah that made me laugh seeing how Coppell wanted to end the rivalry and now they could be placed in a district with them. Serves them right. I would like another shot at Coppell, of course only after we turn things around. Leaving Cowboy stadium in 2003 was a sick sick feeling, we had that game won and let it slip away.

[LeanderLions3033]

Pleeeeeese put the Austin schools back in region 2. Or at least put us in region 4. All this means is if Bowie doesnt make the playoffs Westlake will either lose in the 1st round to one of the 265a teams, or they will be the representative of region 4. Their will be alot of jealousy aflot in the North Austin area if this happens again. I thought they finally got it right. I'm not bashing the SA area, because their football IMO is rich with solid teams. But as a whole, region 4 is clearly the worst and after you get out of that 2nd round, its coasting. All i want is one chance in that region just to see what we can put together.

[dragonfootballfan]

Yeah that made me laugh seeing how Coppell wanted to end the rivalry and now they could be placed in a district with them. Serves them right. I would like another shot at Coppell, of course only after we turn things around. Leaving Cowboy stadium in 2003 was a sick sick feeling, we had that game won and let it slip away.
I mean if they are in the same district what is the coach of Coppell going to say to the team in pregame? We did not want to play them, but the UIL is making us. I know that they are going to destroy us, but it doesn't matter. Atleast our undershirts say the same thing, so when they win we can claim it too.

[Big Daddy Cool]

Really doesn't matter to me where North Shore is placed be it back in the Pasadena district or in the one they have proposed here. They would definitely have more competition with the proposed district than they do with their current one. Competition is one thing we have not add except come playoff time.

[KT2000]

Getting in a more challenging district is one of the best things that could happen to North Shore in my opinion.

You have to play opponents that can challenge any weak areas, so that stuff can be addressed and corrected before the playoffs start.

[RedRage00]

Well, if that happens Victoria will be able to enjoy a couple playoff wins over Laredo and the valley before meeting SA like we used too LOL

Victoria
CC Carroll
CC Ray
CC King
SA Highlands
SA Southwest
SA East Central

That is 5 ISDs (Victoria, CC, SA, Southwest, and EC). Is there a district with more different ISDs than that??? I am used to just Victoria and CC. Talk about a lot of traveling.


RR

[AllenEagle06]

If that were to pan out, Allen would have a nightmare of a draw, not because of the competition but because they would have to fight 121 to Lewisville as well as more traffic up to Grapevine. Yikes, they cant be to thrilled about that, of course they would be up there with Hebron as a district frontrunner which I guess they will take.

Going through that is like driving into the mouth of hell. It was bad enough that we had do it once a year, but every other week is not something I'd enjoy doing.

[dragonfootballfan]

Going through that is like driving into the mouth of hell. It was bad enough that we had do it once a year, but every other week is not something I'd enjoy doing.
think of basketball and other sports. That would be a once a week drive.

[Pack Daddy]

Really doesn't matter to me where North Shore is placed be it back in the Pasadena district or in the one they have proposed here. They would definitely have more competition with the proposed district than they do with their current one. Competition is one thing we have not add except come playoff time.

Same here ... but it's kind of hard to get excited about playing PA and Beaumont.

[slorch]

Same here ... but it's kind of hard to get excited about playing PA and Beaumont.

Yeah, I've enjoyed the Pack coming to Conroe and KLein the past two years, even though I know Lufkin could not have been thrilled about that drive either. It seems like unless Marshall or Nac comes back up, y'all are stuck in a Houston area dist. I hate it, because I loved watching y'all play the other east Texas teams from Tyler and L'view, too.

[SeguinMatadors]

God, Austin football coverage is terrible. I am saying prayers on this one.

[blueraiders11]

I would say these predictions are pretty accurate. I've been preaching the word that the HEB schools will be placed in with the rest of the Arlington ISD schools since 2003 but no one believes it will happen. Although I thought Arlington Seguin was moving up but I guess they aren't? The projected District 6-5A, this year, would have been pretty weak and I believe we would have easily finished no worse than 3rd, Trinity would be the runaway 1st place team and us and Arlington would have battled for 2nd.

[Gridiron Gopher]

265a is where I've heard it would end up. Lee was moving down to 4a because of them losing their magnet students. 265a just got tougher.....if this happens.

[Big Daddy Cool]

Same here ... but it's kind of hard to get excited about playing PA and Beaumont.

I don't know about you guys there, but we've grown accustomed to havign the really try to get excited when you knowthe score was going to be 35-0 or mor at the half if not in the first quarter. You gotta give Westbrook their props though. They may not always be all that good but they always get everything they can out of their players. And if a team comes into Durley or when they come to visit your place if you take them too lightly they can sneak up on you.

[tailgater]

Getting in a more challenging district is one of the best things that could happen to North Shore in my opinion.

You have to play opponents that can challenge any weak areas, so that stuff can be addressed and corrected before the playoffs start.

I agree with you 100%. It's not fun going to games where you know it's going to be a route. I believe putting NS in 225A will be a blessing not only for the team - but the fans as well.

[GRP05]

Personally, I would really enjoy being in district 9-5a with the Plano schools again. Most people credited Berkner's success the past couple of years to an extremely weak district since we split with Plano and Allen. It'd be interesting to see how things would play out if we were in the same district again.

[svhorns]

PAM, Lufkin, and North Shore in one district= a crap load of talent

[owlfan 1]

Lufkin in region 3 would mean no more LP-SLC state semi games. Now they could play for the championship instead...

[PackAttack2005]

Why would the U.I.L. send Lufkin even further south than we were already? We didn't mind going to Conroe or Klein or would we mind going further south if put there. It is the schools down in Southeast Texas or Conroe area that hate coming to Lufkin the most. Lufkin has been used to traveling more than 100 miles for district game for over 60 years, it is nothing for us to travel.

The point is, why pass up schools in Humble and Conroe that are closer to Lufkin and put us 50 miles further south to play Port Arthur or Baytown and in Region III.

I don't think that will happen, I think Lufkin will be put with the Conroe and Humble ISD and KleinISD will move in with Spring , Magnolia and Tomball ISD.

UIL will just pull a switch, with Klein moving back to Region III and Humble moving up to Region II.


Texas Prep is wrong about Lufkin.

[The Lone Ranger]

Personally, I would really enjoy being in district 9-5a with the Plano schools again. Most people credited Berkner's success the past couple of years to an extremely weak district since we split with Plano and Allen. It'd be interesting to see how things would play out if we were in the same district again.

I think that Berkner was for real both years. I'm really glad we played them 1st in 2004, or else our Cinderella 1st year district championship might have been gone. They really gelled that year after that close loss to JCP.

I think that Berkner will be with the Plano schools and Wylie, like TPX said, but I'm thinking that Berkner will be in 10-5A, not 9-5A (just a technicality, but what looks likelier to happen).

[dragonfootballfan]

Lufkin in region 3 would mean no more LP-SLC state semi games. Now they could play for the championship instead...
it also means that it would be harder for this game to occur. Really it is amazing that both Carroll and Lufkin have advanced to the semifinals 3 out of the last 4 years.

[The Lone Ranger]

Why would the U.I.L. send Lufkin even further south than we were already? We didn't mind going to Conroe or Klein or would we mind going further south if put there. It is the schools down in Southeast Texas or Conroe area that hate coming to Lufkin the most. Lufkin has been used to traveling more than 100 miles for district game for over 60 years, it is nothing for us to travel.

The point is, why pass up schools in Humble and Conroe that are closer to Lufkin and put us 50 miles further south to play Port Arthur or Baytown and in Region III.

I don't think that will happen, I think Lufkin will be put with the Conroe and Humble ISD and KleinISD will move in with Spring , Magnolia and Tomball ISD.

UIL will just pull a switch, with Klein moving back to Region III and Humble moving up to Region II.


Texas Prep is wrong about Lufkin.

TPX is RIGHT about LP, because you have the new rule that there must be 7 teams in each district. Lufkin is a floater school who could go many places. But because that golden triangle district has only 6 teams, Lufkin basically gets put into that hole. It's not what works best geographically for Lufkin, it's what works best geographically for the region as a whole.

How would it work differently? You could send Strake Jesuit to the Golden triangle, but they're even further away. Or you could send SJ to Pasadena and send Deer Park to the Golden Triangle.

But even though Lufkin may be closer to Conroe and Humble, the best geographic fit is where TPX has you.

Klein and Humble will both be in Region II. In Region IV, Corpus loses their district, forcing the Austin schools to district 25. That leaves an open district in Region II, which will be filled by a 10th Houston district. I think that TPX has greater Houston almost to the dot. My only change would be to flip the Aldine and HISD districts.

And on 24-5A and 32-5A, each has one school cut off from the bottom. Pearland should be on 24, and San Benito should be on the bottom of 32.

[The Lone Ranger]

If that were to pan out, Allen would have a nightmare of a draw, not because of the competition but because they would have to fight 121 to Lewisville as well as more traffic up to Grapevine. Yikes, they cant be to thrilled about that, of course they would be up there with Hebron as a district frontrunner which I guess they will take.
I would not mind seeing that pan out, Lewisville and Grapevine used to be a pretty fierce rivalry.

This district might turn out with Coppell and Carroll with LISD and Allen, rather than GCISD.

That's how it was from 02-04.

I bet SLC really wouldn't like that...a district game that they aren't guaranteed to win might be interesting.

[The Lone Ranger]

Only 6 teams in districts 24 & 32. I thought they were going to have at least 7 per district.

It got cut-off for some region.

Pearland is in 24, and San Benito in 32.

[PackAttack2005]

Why would the UIL move Humble north to Region II when they are 95 miles south of Lufkin and Lufkin south to Region III into the Baytown / Port Arthur region which is almost 50 miles south of Humble? That does not resemble any type of geographical sense to me. You named three schools that are right next to the Golden Triangle that would be a better geographical fit than Lufkin. Pasadena, Galena Park Northshore or Deer Park are all right next door.

If Lufkin does end up in the Golden Triangle area, those teams down south are going to love traveling 125 to 140 miles up to Lufkin to get their butts kicked at Abe Martin the next two years.

I still disagee with you and TX Prep about their prediction and I would rather see Lufkin travel to Mesquite, Longview and Tyler to play the next 10 years than go play in the Golden Triangle

[lonny23]

Pleeeeeese put the Austin schools back in region 2. Or at least put us in region 4. All this means is if Bowie doesnt make the playoffs Westlake will either lose in the 1st round to one of the 265a teams, or they will be the representative of region 4. Their will be alot of jealousy aflot in the North Austin area if this happens again. I thought they finally got it right. I'm not bashing the SA area, because their football IMO is rich with solid teams. But as a whole, region 4 is clearly the worst and after you get out of that 2nd round, its coasting. All i want is one chance in that region just to see what we can put together.
There's only been 1 successful team in 25-5A and that was Westlake in the 90's. Being in that district is a quick ticket to playoff exits. Ask Bowie about losing to Judson 5 times in Bi-District!:D Round 3 is the only easy round in Region 4. All the other rounds are hard to win.

[badger95]

There's only been 1 successful team in 25-5A and that was Westlake in the 90's. Being in that district is a quick ticket to playoff exits. Ask Bowie about losing to Judson 5 times in Bi-District!:D Round 3 is the only easy round in Region 4. All the other rounds are hard to win.

If I remember correctly, Bowie took the Rockets to the wire in at least two of those games. In one they lost a 35 pt. lead and the other they lost in overtime to a missed extra point.

[dragonman88]

Predictions are just that, look at the geographical setups, why would you go across one district to play in your own district. 7 Teams, come on, you need 8 in a district if you are going to have two D1's and two D2's in the playoffs. TPX has some idiots making all of you ruffle your feathers over some stupid predictions.

[Tut]

It got cut-off for some region.

Pearland is in 24, and San Benito in 32.
Thanks! I should have figured that out. (especially Pearland - knew someone was missing)

Geographically, Lufkin belongs in either 12 or 16. Strake Jesuit could replace them in 22.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Same here ... but it's kind of hard to get excited about playing PA and Beaumont.
What did you mean by that?

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

If Lufkin does end up in the Golden Triangle area, those teams down south are going to love traveling 125 to 140 miles up to Lufkin to get their butts kicked at Abe Martin the next two years.


Lufkin's good but they will lose some games in this district new year, mine you they will still make state but as far as just saying yall will kick peoples butts next year--uh no. And just FYI Baytown Sterling will knock somebody off that's in our district and ranked in the top 10 next year. They might have more talent than us (PAM) next year.

[The Lone Ranger]

Why would the UIL move Humble north to Region II when they are 95 miles south of Lufkin and Lufkin south to Region III into the Baytown / Port Arthur region which is almost 50 miles south of Humble? That does not resemble any type of geographical sense to me. You named three schools that are right next to the Golden Triangle that would be a better geographical fit than Lufkin. Pasadena, Galena Park Northshore or Deer Park are all right next door.

If Lufkin does end up in the Golden Triangle area, those teams down south are going to love traveling 125 to 140 miles up to Lufkin to get their butts kicked at Abe Martin the next two years.

I still disagee with you and TX Prep about their prediction and I would rather see Lufkin travel to Mesquite, Longview and Tyler to play the next 10 years than go play in the Golden Triangle

It is 3.5 hours from Lufkin to either Rockwall or Mesquite.

It is 2.5 hours to Port Arthur, and only 2.25 hrs to Beaumont.

Travel times would be less in the Golden Triangle.

And to put Lufkin into the Northern Houston area, you'd have to send a floater school.

Floater schools are Magnolia, Tomball, Strake Jesuit, Deer Park, North Shore, La Porte, and Channelview.

You could send Deer Park to the Golden Triangle, and then send Strake Jesuit with the Pasadena schools and La Porte. But then you're inconveniencing 6 schools to please 1.

You never know what will happen, but it maks the most geographic sense for the whole area to send Lufkin down with the Golden Triangle.

If they didn't have the 7-team rule, Lufkin would be going to Conroe and Humble, but they have the rule, so they'll go to Beaumont and Port Arthur.

[The Lone Ranger]

Predictions are just that, look at the geographical setups, why would you go across one district to play in your own district. 7 Teams, come on, you need 8 in a district if you are going to have two D1's and two D2's in the playoffs. TPX has some idiots making all of you ruffle your feathers over some stupid predictions.

The UIL has a new rule that all districts must have 7 teams (according to TPX).

If this is true, and it wouldn't surprise me with the 4 teams in the playoffs, that means that there will be more 7 team districts and less 6 team districts.

You automatically lose one West Texas district and the Corpus Christi district. DFW and Houston have more teams, so each gets a 10th district.

The Metroplex has 71 schools (counting the 2 Abilene schools and 3 East Texas schools). So you'd only be able to have 1 8-team district. Geographically, it'd make sense to have the 4 RISD schools, 3 Plano schools, and Wylie together. That means that Allen might have to travel a little bit more. Other than that, no one is really inconvenienced.

TPX aren't idiots...they're just informed. They've put a lot of time and energy into trying to tell people what they think the districts will loke like.

And for districts 1-24, bar two exceptions, my districts were identical to theirs.

I personally think that people should expect to see the districts look identical to this.

[thebiggestfan]

These TPX Predictions are stupid and pointless until the real facts come out i mean seriously these are the most pansie districts

[AllenEagle06]

Is The Colony moving down to 4A? I just now noticed that they didn't have them anywhere on there.

[LUFPAN]

Lufkin's good but they will lose some games in this district new year, mine you they will still make state but as far as just saying yall will kick peoples butts next year--uh no. And just FYI Baytown Sterling will knock somebody off that's in our district and ranked in the top 10 next year. They might have more talent than us (PAM) next year.

I'm not sure about losing games, but its reasonable to assume that we won't go undefeated in the regular season every year. I think it would be great to be in a district with tougher competition. Its been a fun ride the last two years but winning every game by a 35pt average does get boring to watch at times.

[Favpack]

Sorry I missed this thread. I think these guys are loony. How do you put Lufkin with Baytown? 45 minutes past Humble/Conroe.

And, do we kiss the Little SWC goodbye? Moving Abilene east to Weatherford/Ft. Worth - rather than west?

Where is this info. coming from?

[Favpack]

10 teams in 2-5A?!? Amarillo, Midland, Lubbock, SAngelo, Odessa... why not throw WFalls in there. Crazy I tell you -- what do they have against the Little SWC?? - the grandest of districts after East Texas was cratered.

[ACM Dad]

I know waco had a down year, but losing Cove and Waco is not going to be made up for by adding a Killeen team to 13-5A. I'd rather see a completely new landscape. No disrespect to K Ellison, but replacing two tough opponents with one... that's screwed. 7 team districts, yuk. 8 should be minimum.

[Favpack]

I know waco had a down year, but losing Cove and Waco is not going to be made up for by adding a Killeen team to 13-5A. I'd rather see a completely new landscape. No disrespect to K Ellison, but replacing two tough opponents with one... that's screwed. 7 team districts, yuk. 8 should be minimum.

Hate to see Cove move down - maybe they climb back up in 2 years?

[The Lone Ranger]

There is a new rule which says that all districts must have 7 teams--this comes from the UIL via Rivals.

So that's why the districts are screwed up-unless you forced who teams from the Metroplex to play with Amarillo and Lubbock, there is no way you could have 14 teams in West Texas.

So there is one West Texas district, with the 10 team maximum, and the two easternmost schools going to the Metroplex.

Because of this 7 team rule, the Golden Triangle area has only 6 teams. It needs a 7th. You could do 2 things:

1. Move Deer Park to be with the Golden Triangle; Put Strake Jesuit with Pasadena and La Porte

2. Put Lufkin in with the Golden Triangle

Idea 2 impacts the least number of schools. So that's what the UIL will do--that's how the realignment works.

It's only geography, no politics involved (you could claim otherwise, but there is really no Metropolitan team that consistantly gets screwed--it's only geographically isolated towns like Del Rio, Lufkin, and Longview).

ISDs can't be broken up. So that means that a lot of ISDs get their own districts. The single school districts and private schools are just filled in the holes as best it works geographically for the entire state.

So Lufkin might be inconvenienced, but they are only one school. It would inconvenience far more too many to put Lufkin where they want.

[farmerfan]

Is The Colony moving down to 4A? I just now noticed that they didn't have them anywhere on there.


The Colony will be 4A.

[Tut]

Because of this 7 team rule, the Golden Triangle area has only 6 teams. It needs a 7th. You could do 2 things:

1. Move Deer Park to be with the Golden Triangle; Put Strake Jesuit with Pasadena and La Porte

2. Put Lufkin in with the Golden Triangle

Idea 2 impacts the least number of schools. So that's what the UIL will do--that's how the realignment works.

It's only geography, no politics involved (you could claim otherwise, but there is really no Metropolitan team that consistantly gets screwed--it's only geographically isolated towns like Del Rio, Lufkin, and Longview).

ISDs can't be broken up. So that means that a lot of ISDs get their own districts. The single school districts and private schools are just filled in the holes as best it works geographically for the entire state.

So Lufkin might be inconvenienced, but they are only one school. It would inconvenience far more too many to put Lufkin where they want.

Actually, it would be easier to simply move Strake Jesuit to Dist. 22. The commute would be shorter than Lufkin's and wouldn't be very long except for Beaumont/Port Arthur, which is out of the way for anyone.

It's only one school and not as big of an inconvenience as Lufkin for all involved.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

I'm not sure about losing games, but its reasonable to assume that we won't go undefeated in the regular season every year. I think it would be great to be in a district with tougher competition. Its been a fun ride the last two years but winning every game by a 35pt average does get boring to watch at times.
Oh I understand..LOL:) I got bored at that Longview game at abe back in '03 so I know how you feel.:D

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

10 teams in 2-5A?!? Amarillo, Midland, Lubbock, SAngelo, Odessa... why not throw WFalls in there. Crazy I tell you -- what do they have against the Little SWC?? - the grandest of districts after East Texas was cratered.
WF Rider might be up to 5A, we'll see in about 2-3 hours.

[The Lone Ranger]

WF Rider might be up to 5A, we'll see in about 2-3 hours.

I highly doubt that. Rider's enrollment is nowhere near 1980.

There is a UIL bylaw which says that 5A can have no more than 245 schools.

So unless Rider is in the top 245, then it wouldn't matter.

If the UIL holds to a hard 7-team minimum in each district, the LSWC is gone. If they allow any leniency, you can bet it will be in 2 and 3-5A. But from the way the press releases sound, it's looking like they are basically giving a hint that the LSWC is gone.

Even if they are, you'd need another team to go west. What would you do, put Justin Northwest with Rider and the Lubbock and Amarillo schools?

[PackAttack2005]

Lone Ranger, that 7 team minimum didn't hold up did it. I knew that would not work out.

Lufkin is back with Conroe/Magnolia, as it should be. Thumbs up to the UIL they made the best geogrphical choice for everyone.

[CoveMom]

This really belonged in the It's Official Cove is 4A thread.

[The Lone Ranger]

Lone Ranger, that 7 team minimum didn't hold up did it. I knew that would not work out.

Lufkin is back with Conroe/Magnolia, as it should be. Thumbs up to the UIL they made the best geogrphical choice for everyone.

Except for Humble ISD.

And for Dallas Jesuit.

I agree that this is probably for the best geographically, but it isn't fair that some schools are in 9 team districts, while others have only 5 (2-5A basketball).

It'll be a farce when a 2-30 team from Amarillo makes the Basketball playoffs.

It is now possible to go 1-9 in class 5A and make the playoffs...such a tragedy.