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ThEgReAtOnE
10-08-2009, 05:10 PM
1. RR Stony Point (5-0) @ Georgetown
RRSP's OPA = 24%
RRSP's PPG = 37.8
4A-Alamo Heights (W) - 32.0 (0/-32)
Pflugerville Connally (W) - 21.4 (3/-18.4)
4A-Waco (W) - 21.4 (7/-14.4)
RR Westwood (W) - 29.6 (7/-22.6)
Leander (W) - 26.4 (14/-12.4)
OPF 130.8 = -99.8 OPA (31/24%)
Georgetown's OPA = 149.8%
Georgetown's PPG = 26.4
Southwest (26.6/+9.4)
Seguin (20.6/+20.4)
Austin Anderson (32/+20)
Cedar Park (30.2/+20.8)
Vista Ridge (20.4/+42.6)
OPF 243 = +113.2 (356.2/149.8%)
RRSP = 56++ (56.4)
Georgetown = 6 (6.3)
Conversion to:
RRSP = 70
Georgetown = 6
Final Score
2. Cedar Hill (5-0) vs Irving
CHILL's OPA = 94%
CHILL's PPG = 42.4
Desoto (W) - 43.8 (41/+3.8)
4A-WF Rider (W) - 11.0 (0/-11)
Euless Trinity (W) - 32.0 (14/-18)
Arlington Martin (W) - 30.3 (39/8.7)
South Grand Prairie (W) - 24.5 (32/7.5)
OPF 141.3 = -9 (132.3/94%)
Irving's OPA = 111.8%
Irving's PPG = 12.2
Mansfield (17/+4)
Richland (30.4/+8.6)
Carrollton Smith (37.4/-2.4)
Arlington (26.3/+11.7)
Grand Prairie (13.3/+2.6)
Irving Nimitz (23.7/-3.7)
OPF 176 = +20.8 (196.8/111.8%)
CHILL = 48+++ (47.5)
Irving = 10 (10.4)
Conversion to:
CHILL = 69
Irving = 10
Final Score
3. Allen (4-1) @ McKinney Boyd
Allen's OPA = 57%
Allen's PPG = 37.6
4A-Longview (L) - 33.3 (28/-5.3)
OOS-Monterrey Tech (W) - 28.3 (21/-7.3)
Rockwall (W) - 30.4 (10/-20.4)
Eluess Trinity (W) - 32.0 (28/-4)
Plano West (W) - 39.8 (6/-33.8)
OPF 163.8 = -70.8 (93/57%)
McKinney Boyd's OPA = 130%
McKinney Boyd's PPG = 44.7
McKinney North (17.4/-10.4)
Frisco Centennial (33.6/-.6)
Copperas Cove (40/+8)
McKinney (43.6/+34.4)
Wylie (26.5/-.5)
Plano West (39.8/+44.2)
OPF 250 = +75.1 (325.1/130%)
Allen = 49++ (48.8)
Boyd = 25 (25.4)
Conversion to:
Allen = 63
Boyd = 24
Final Score
4. DeSoto (4-1) vs North Mesquite
Desoto's OPA = 82%
Desoto's PPG = 43.8
CHILL (L) - 37.8 (44/+6.2)
Plano (W) - 19.0 (15/-4)
Richardson Berkner (W) - 36.8 (10/-26.8)
Duncanville (W) - 25.2 (23/-2.2)
Flower Mound (W) - 35.4 (35/-.4)
OPF 154.2 = -27.2 (127/82%)
North Mesquite's OPA = 89%
North Mesquite's PPG = 22.2
Rowlett (20.4/-4.4)
North Garland (22.2/-16.2)
Irving MacArthur (18.2/+12.8)
South Garland (17.3/-.3)
OPF 70 = -8 (62/89%)
DeSoto = 39+++ (38.9)
North Mesquite = 18 (18.2)
Desoto = 60
North Mesquite = 17
Final Score
5. Dallas Skyline (5-0) @ Richardson
Skyline's OPA = 71%
Skyline's PPG = 47.6
4A-Kimball (W) - 6.3 (2/-4.3)
Arlington Bowie (W) - 34.5 (26/-8.5)
Plano East (W) - 28.4 (19/-9.4)
Lake Highlands (W) - 29.4 (27/-2.4)
Molina (W) - 5.2 (0/-5.2)
OPF 103.8 = -29.8 (74/71%)
Richardson's OPA = 50%
Richardson's PPG = 40.4
The Colony (15.2/-15.2)
Denton (19.6/+9.4)
4A-Pearce (51.6/-8.6)
Sunset (8.4/-8.4)
White (18/-15)
OPF 75 = -37.8 (37.2/50%)
Skyline = 24+ (23.8)
Richardson = 29 (28.6)
Conversion to:
Skyline = 31
Richardson = 28
Final Score
6. The Woodlands (5-0) vs College Park
The Woodlands OPA = 70%
The Woodlands PPG = 36
Cy Fair (W) - 6.8 (6/-.8)
Katy (W) - 31.4 (27/-4.4)
Clear Lake (W) - 24.0 (27/+3)
Humble Kingwood (W) - 13.4 (7/-6.4)
PA Memorial (W) - 30.0 (7/-23))
OPF 105.6 = -31.6 (74/70%)
College Park's OPA = 47%
College Park's PPG = 29.6
Houston Madison (32.5/-1.5)
Huntsville (27.2/-20.2)
Dekaney (25/-18)
Aldine Nimitz (23/-11)
Cinco Ranch (37.4/+.6)
OPF 95 = -50.1 (44.9/47%)
The Woodlands = 17+ (16.9)
College Park = 21 (20.7)
Conversion to:
The Woodlands = 24
College Park = 21
Final Score
7. Katy (4-1) vs Katy Morton Ranch
Katy's OPA = 56%
Katy's PPG = 28.2
North Shore (W) - 31.4 (7/-24.4)
The Woodlands (L) - 36.0 (31/-5)
OOS-Bellevue (W) - 31 (17/-14)
FM Marcus (W) - 34.5 (24/-10.5)
Beaumont West Brook (W) - 22.8 (7/-15.3)
OPF 155.7 = -69.2 (86.5/56%)
Morton Ranch's OPA = 114.2%
Morton Ranch's PPG = 11.0
Tomball (23.6/+4.4)
Travis (24/0)
Langham Creek (35.4/+1.6)
Magnolia (25.8/-4.8)
Foster (21.5/+22.5)
OPF 166 = 23.7 (189.7/114.2%)
Katy = 32++ (32.2)
Morton Ranch = 6 (6.2)
Conversion to:
Katy = 48
Morton Ranch = 6
Final Score
8. North Shore (4-1) @ Port Arthur Memorial
North Shore's OPA = 65%
North Shore's PPG = 31.4
Katy (L) - 28.2 (9/-19.2)
Aldine Eisenhower (W) - 20.5 (14/-6.5)
Cy Falls (W) - 26.8 (10/-16.8)
4A-La Marque (W) - 22.8 (34/+11.2)
SLC (W) - 44.2 (15/-29.2)
OPF 142.5 = -60.5 (82/65%)
PA Memorial's OPA = 61%
PA Memorial's PPG = 30.0
Beaumont Central (32.4/-4.4)
Ozen (18.6/-1.6)
Aldine Nimitz (23/-9)
Westbury (25.3/-11.3)
The Woodlands (36/-12)
OPF 97 = -38.3 (58.7/61%)
North Shore = 17+ (16.6)
PA Memorial = 20 (19.5)
Conversion to:
North Shore = 24
PA Memorial = 21
Final Score
9. John Tyler (5-0) @ Mesquite Horn
John Tyler's OPA = 61%
John Tyler's PPG = 46.0
4A-Texas High (W) - 27.3 (17/-10.3)
Lufkin (W) - 26.8 (18/-8.8)
Arlington Lamar (W) - 32.5 (22/-10.5)
4A-WF Rider (W) - 11.0 (13/+2)
Lewisville (W) - 26.4 (6/-20.4)
OPF 124 = -48 (76/61%)
Mesquite Horn's OPA = 40%
Mesquite Horn's PPG = 33.4
Martin (30.3/-23.3)
Lake Highlands (29.4/-15.4)
Wylie (26.5/-4.5)
Ennis (27/-3)
Lewisville (26.4/-6.4)
OPF 87 = -52.3 (34.7/40%)
John Tyler = 18 (18.4)
Mesquite Horn = 20 (20.3)
Conversion to:
John Tyler = 17
Mesquite Horn = 21
Final Score
10. Southlake Carroll (4-1) vs Coppell
SLC's OPA = 64%
SLC's PPG = 44.2
Plano West (W) - 39.8 (20/-19.8)
Arlington (W) - 26.3 (14/-12.3)
Houston Bellaire (W) - 31.8 (13/-18.8)
Mesquite (W) - 20.0 (21/+1)
North Shore (L) - 31.4 (28/-3.4)
OPF 149.3 = -53.3 (64%)
Coppell's OPA = .8% (0)
Coppell's PPG = 45.6
South Garland (17.3/-17.3)
Dallas Jesuit (29.6/-12.6)
Highland Park (41.4/-21.4)
Weatherford (23.6/-23.6)
Summit (26.6/-12.6)
OPF 51 = -87.5 (-36.5/.8%)
SLC = 6+ (5.5)
Coppell = 29 (29.1)
Conversion to:
SLC = 14
Coppell = 28
Final Score
11. Euless Trinity (3-2) @ Colleyville Heritage
Euless Trinity's OPA = 35%
Euless Trinity's PPG = 32.0
Bingham (38.6/-17.6)
Cedar Hill (37.8/-14.8)
Allen (37.6/-2.6)
Keller (28.8/-14.8)
Fossil Ridge (21.8/-14.8)
OPF 100 = -64.6 (35.4/35%)
Colleyville Heritage's OPA = 61%
Colleyville Heritage's PPG = 36.2
Midland Lee (28.6/-8.6)
Irving Macarthur (18.2/-12.2)
Plano East (28.4/-4.4)
Fossil Ridge (21.8/-3.8)
Northwest (17.2/-3.2)
OPF 82 = -31.7 (50.3/61%)
Euless Trinity = 20+ (19.5)
Heritage = 13 (12.7)
Conversion to:
Euless Trinity = 27
Heritage = 14
Final Score
12. Lufkin (4-1) @ New Caney
Lufkin's OPA = 0% (0)
Lufkin's PPG = 26.8
Tyler Lee (14.0/-1)
John Tyler (46.0/-19)
4A-Nacogdoches (23.2/-23)
4A-Longview (33.3/-19)
Mesquite (20.0/-6)
OPF 68 = -68 (0/0%)
New Caney's OPA = 104.1%
New Caney's PPG = 14.6
Spring Woods (20.6/-11.6)
4A-Magnolia (25.8/+9.2)
4A-Willis (24.8/+11.2)
Houston Chavez (43.0/0)
Baytown Sterling (24.0/-3)
OPF 144 = 5.9 (149.9/104.1%)
Lufkin = 28++ (27.8)
New Caney = 0 (1.4)
Conversion to:
Lufkin = 42
New Caney = 0
Final Score
13. Coppell (5-0) @ Southlake Carroll
Coppell's OPA = (Already completed, above!)
Coppell's PPG = (Already completed, above!)
SLC's OPA = (Already completed, above!)
SLC's PPG = (Already completed, above!)
14. Abilene (5-0) @ Weatherford
Abilene's OPA = 42%
Abilene's PPG = 48.4
4A-Dunbar (33.3/-20.3)
4A-Cooper (40.6/-3.6)
Tyler Lee (14/+15)
Burleson (23.3/-20.3)
Paschal (17/-17)
OPF 79 = -36.2 (32.8/42%)
Weatherford's OPA = 97%
Weatherford's PPG = 23.6
4A-The Colony (15.2/-15.8)
Arlington Lamar (32.5/+8.5)
4A-Aledo (39.8/-12.8)
Coppell (45.6/+3.6)
Paschal (17/+11)
OPF 169 = -5.5 (163.5/97%)
Abilene = 47+++ (46.9)
Weatherford = 10 (9.9)
Conversion to:
Abilene = 68
Weatherford = 10
Final Score
15. FB Hightower (5-0) vs FB Dulles
FB Hightower's OPA = -4% (0)
FB Hightower's PPG = 29.8
IKE (20.5/-20.5)
FB Kempner (23.8/-16.8)
FB Bush (21/-7)
FB Austin (8.8/-3.5)
FB Travis (24/-17)
OPF 33 = -64.8 (-31.8/-4%)
FB Dulles' OPA = 110%
FB Dulles' PPG = 24.8
Seven Lakes (29.2/-29.2)
FB Willowridge (13.3/+.7)
FB Travis (24/+2)
FB Kempner (23.8/+30.2)
FB Clements (27.4/+7.4)
OPF 114 = 11.1 (125.1/110%)
FB Hightower = 33+ (32.8)
FB Dulles = 0
Conversion to:
FB Hightower = 42
FB Dulles = 0
Final Score
16. Richardson Berkner (4-1) @ Lake Highlands
Berkner's OPA = 1%
Berkner's PPG = 36.8
SGP (24.5/-5.5)
North Crowley (22.2/-1.2)
DeSoto (43.8/-30.8)
Molina (5.2/+.8)
Carrollton Creekview (21.8/-21.8)
OPF 59 = -58.5 (.5/1%)
LH's OPA = 51%
LH's PPG = 29.4
Mesquite (20/-6)
Mesquite Horn (33.4/-2.6)
Garland (31/-25)
Skyline (47.6/-5.6)
Sunset (8.4/-8.4)
OPF 98 = -47.6 (50.4/51%)
Berkner = 19 (18.7)
Lake Highlands = 0++ (.3)
Conversion to:
Richardson Berkner = 20
Lake Highlands = 14
Final Score
17. Mesquite Horn (5-0) vs Tyler John Tyler
Horn's OPA = (Already completed, above!)
Horn's PPG = (Already completed, above!)
JT's OPA = (Already completed, above!)
JT's PPG = (Already completed, above!)
18. Copperas Cove (5-0) @ Bryan
CC's OPA = 68%
CC's PPG = 40.0
SA Central (16.6/-10.6)
4A-Waco (21.4/+2.6)
McKinney Boyd (44.7/-6.7)
Ellison (20.6/-7.6)
Temple (17/-7)
OPF 91 = -29.3 (61.7/68%)
Bryan's OPA = 117%
Bryan's PPG = 35.8
Cy Falls (26.8/+25.2)
Leander (26.4/-1.4)
RR McNeil (24.8/+9.2)
Shoemaker (10.6/-10.4)
Consolidated (36.2/+7.8)
OPF 175 = 30.4 (205.4/117%)
Copperas Cove = 47+ (46.8)
Bryan = 24 (24.3)
Conversion to:
Copperas Cove = 56
Bryan = 21
Final Score
19. Arlington Bowie (4-1) vs Mansfield
Bowie's OPA = 36%
Bowie's PPG = 32.6
4A-Lincoln (35.2/-18.2)
South Garland (17.3/-4.3)
Skyline (47.6/-12.6)
4A-Wyatt (14.3/-8.3)
Martin (30.3/-9.3)
OPF 82 = -52.7 (29.3/36%)
Mansfield's OPA = 103%
Mansfield's PPG = 17.0
Irving (14.3/+6.7)
4A-Legacy (18.6/-4.6)
Irving Macarthur (18.2/+8.8)
Burleson (23.3/-3.3)
Arlington Sam Houston (30/+4)
Summitt (26.6/-6.4)
OPF 149 = 5.2 (154.2/103%)
Arlington Bowie = 34++ (33.5)
Mansfield = 6 (6.1)
Conversion to:
Arlington Bowie = 48
Mansfield = 7
Final Score
20. Katy Cinco Ranch (5-0) @ Katy Taylor
CR's OPA = 48%
CR's PPG = 37.4
SA Reagan (24/-24)
Cy Springs (27.8/-10.8)
Cy Ridge (29.4/(-4.5)
Conroe (27.8/-12.8)
College Park (29.6/-6.6)
OPF 107 = -58.7 (48.3/48%)
Taylor's OPA = 38%
Taylor's PPG = 28.5
Cy Springs (27.8/-13.8)
4A-Terry (23.8/-17.8)
Houston Lamar (29.0/-1)
Baytown Lee (17.8/-4.8)
OPF 61 = -37.8 (23.2/38%)
Cinco Ranch = 14+ (14.2)
Taylor = 14 (13.6)
Conversion to:
Cinco Ranch = 21
Taylor = 14
Final Score
21. SA Clark (6-0) @ SA OConnor
Clark's OPA = -6% (0)
Clark's PPG = 31.3
SA Churchill (15.2/-15.2)
4A-Alamo Heights (32.0/-19)
SA Brandeis (27.6/-14.6)
SA Stevens (33.8/-17.8)
SA Marshall (10.8/-3.8)
SA Jay (15.6/-15.6)
OPF 55 = -86 (-31/-6%)
SAO's OPA = 125%
SAO's PPG = 24.4
SA Madison (33.3/+6.7)
Laredo Alexander (20.0/+1)
SA Marshall (10.8/+9.2)
SA Jay (15.6/+6.4)
SA Warren (19.2/+8.8)
OPF 131 = 32.1 (163.1/125%)
SA Clark = 39+ (39.1)
SA'O = 0
Conversion to:
SA Clark = 45
SA O'Connor = 0
Final Score
22. Austin Westlake (4-1) vs Bastrop
Westlake's OPA = 15%
Westlake's PPG = 23.8
Cedar Park (30.2/-15.8)
4A-Lake Travis (52.7/-9.3)
Consolidated (36.2/-28.8)
Bowie (25.2/-17.8)
Pflugerville (23.2/-3.8)
OPF 89 = -75.5 (13.5/15%)
Bastrop's OPA = 94%
Bastrop's PPG = 27.5
4A-Buda Hays (16/-2)
Shoemaker (10.6/-3.4)
Pflugerville (23.2/+2.8)
Connally (21.4/-1.6)
OPF 65 = -4.2 (60.8/94%)
Westlake = 22+ (22.3)
Bastrop = 4 (4.1)
Conversion to:
Westlake = 31
Bastrop = 3
Final Score
23. Garland (4-1) @ Garland Sachse
Garland's OPA = -2%
Garland's PPG = 31.0
4A-Kimball (6/-6)
Lake Highlands (29.4/-22.6)
4A-Cooper (40.6/-5.6)
South Garland (17.3/-.3)
Lake Cent. (24/-24)
OPF 57 = -58.5 (-1.5/-2%)
GS's OPA = 65%
GS's PPG = 28.4
4A-Pearce (51.6/-2.6)
4A-McKinney (43.6/-17.6)
Forney (29.2/-15.2)
North Garland (22.2/-1.2)
Naaman Forest (37/-11)
OPF 136 = -47.6 (88.4/65%)
Garland = 21++ (20.5)
Sachse = 0
Conversion to:
Garland = 35
Sachse = 0
Final Score
24. Cy Creek (5-0) @ Cy Woods
Creek's OPA = 75%
Creek's PPG = 38.2
Klein Oak (18.2/-1.2)
Tomball (23.6/(-4.3)
Oak Ridge (38.0/+11)
Langham Creek (35.4/-14.4)
Cy Ridge (29.4/-17.4)
OPF 105 = -26.3 (78.7/75%)
CW's OPA = 112%
CW's PPG = 39.4
Consolidated (36.2/+12.8)
Klein Oak (18.2/+4.8)
Stratford (24.2/-10.2)
Cy Ridge (29.4/+16.6)
Jersey Village (19.8/-6.8)
OPF 145 = 17.2 (162.2/112%)
Cy Creek = 43+ (42.7)
Cy Woods = 30 (29.5)
Conversion to :
Cy Creek = 49
Cy Woods = 28
Final Score
25. FM Marcus (3-1) @ Keller Fossil Ridge
FM's OPA = 84%
FM's PPG = 34.5
Grapevine (25.2/+2.8)
Plano West (39.8/-14.8)
Katy (28.2/+3.8)
Tyler Lee (14.0/-7)
OPF 94 = -15.2 (78.8/84%)
KFR's OPA = 119%
KFR's PPG = 21.8
Arlington Lamar (32.5/+1.5)
Flower Mound (35.4/+26.6)
Heritage (36.2/-8.8)
Euless Trinity (32/+16)
OPF 189 = 35.3 (224.3/119%)
FM Marcus = 41+ (41.1)
Keller Fossil Ridge = 18 (18.3)
Conversion to:
FM Marcus = 49
Keller FR = 17
Final Score
KEY
(7 pts) + = Good SOS/Good Offense vs Average Def.
(10 pts) +- = Good SOS/Good Offense vs Average Def.
(14 pts) ++ = Good SOS/Excellent Offense vs Average Def.
(21 pts) +++ = Good SOS/Excellent Offense vs Below Avg. Def.
Below Average Def. = 85% and above
Average Def. = 65% and above
Good Def. 65% and below
Excellent Off. PPG = 41+
Good Off. PPG = 31-40
Average Off. PPG = 21-30
Below Average Off. PPG = 11-20
Poor Off. PPG = 0-10
Good SOS = 31 OPPGA and above
Average SOS = 21-30 OPPGA
Below Avg. SOS = 20 and below OPPGA
Quick Points:
It looks like North Shore may be in for a tough one against PA Memorial.
Actually, North Shore, Skyline and The Woodlands are on upset alert. Their opponent is not going to be teams to take lightly - not assuming they will. Those should be some good games.
SLC looks to be heading into a war, and I actually see them limping away from this one. Stats are just that... so I'm sure no SLC fans will be moved by these random "statistical" posts. Still, Coppell spanked a damn good Highland Park team, and SLC better be at their very best. I have Coppell beating them worse than North Shore did. Take note.. I had SLC beating North Shore 28-21!
Anything can happen, ladies and gents! Goodluck to all the teams in the Top 25!
NOTE: These stats do not incorporate injury, weather, or turnovers.
Did we just become best friends????:eek:
the_phoenix612
10-08-2009, 05:19 PM
There's something seriously wrong with you having Coppell over carroll by more than NS.
Given how close that game actually was and the 14 point swing in the 3rd and the 21 points SLC left on the field, you're implying Coppell would wipe the floor with NS, which is absurd.
Coppell has played a cupcake schedule and they're going to be exposed tomorrow.
ThEgReAtOnE
10-08-2009, 06:19 PM
There's something seriously wrong with you having Coppell over carroll by more than NS.
Given how close that game actually was and the 14 point swing in the 3rd and the 21 points SLC left on the field, you're implying Coppell would wipe the floor with NS, which is absurd.
Coppell has played a cupcake schedule and they're going to be exposed tomorrow.
I think you need to understand this is far more objective, than subjective. Those stats are based on what these teams are doing (averaging). The stats reflect tendencies.. percentages. Anyhow, my purely subjective thinking is SLC is going to make it a game. Max-potential, based on what has happened, so far, suggests a low-scoring game (less than 30 pts, by both teams) decided by aproximately no more than 14 pts.
CuJo iS BaCk
10-08-2009, 06:47 PM
1. RR Stony Point (5-0) @ Georgetown
RRSP's OPA = 24%
RRSP's PPG = 37.8
4A-Alamo Heights (W) - 32.0 (0/-32)
Pflugerville Connally (W) - 21.4 (3/-18.4)
4A-Waco (W) - 21.4 (7/-14.4)
RR Westwood (W) - 29.6 (7/-22.6)
Leander (W) - 26.4 (14/-12.4)
OPF 130.8 = -99.8 OPA (31/24%)
Georgetown's OPA = 149.8%
Georgetown's PPG = 26.4
Southwest (26.6/+9.4)
Seguin (20.6/+20.4)
Austin Anderson (32/+20)
Cedar Park (30.2/+20.8)
Vista Ridge (20.4/+42.6)
OPF 243 = +113.2 (356.2/149.8%)
RRSP = 56++ (56.4)
Georgetown = 6 (6.3)
Conversion to:
RRSP = 70
Georgetown = 6
Final Score
2. Cedar Hill (5-0) vs Irving
CHILL's OPA = 94%
CHILL's PPG = 42.4
Desoto (W) - 43.8 (41/+3.8)
4A-WF Rider (W) - 11.0 (0/-11)
Euless Trinity (W) - 32.0 (14/-18)
Arlington Martin (W) - 30.3 (39/8.7)
South Grand Prairie (W) - 24.5 (32/7.5)
OPF 141.3 = -9 (132.3/94%)
Irving's OPA = 111.8%
Irving's PPG = 12.2
Mansfield (17/+4)
Richland (30.4/+8.6)
Carrollton Smith (37.4/-2.4)
Arlington (26.3/+11.7)
Grand Prairie (13.3/+2.6)
Irving Nimitz (23.7/-3.7)
OPF 176 = +20.8 (196.8/111.8%)
CHILL = 48+++ (47.5)
Irving = 10 (10.4)
Conversion to:
CHILL = 69
Irving = 10
Final Score
3. Allen (4-1) @ McKinney Boyd
Allen's OPA = 57%
Allen's PPG = 37.6
4A-Longview (L) - 33.3 (28/-5.3)
OOS-Monterrey Tech (W) - 28.3 (21/-7.3)
Rockwall (W) - 30.4 (10/-20.4)
Eluess Trinity (W) - 32.0 (28/-4)
Plano West (W) - 39.8 (6/-33.8)
OPF 163.8 = -70.8 (93/57%)
McKinney Boyd's OPA = 130%
McKinney Boyd's PPG = 44.7
McKinney North (17.4/-10.4)
Frisco Centennial (33.6/-.6)
Copperas Cove (40/+8)
McKinney (43.6/+34.4)
Wylie (26.5/-.5)
Plano West (39.8/+44.2)
OPF 250 = +75.1 (325.1/130%)
Allen = 49++ (48.8)
Boyd = 25 (25.4)
Conversion to:
Allen = 63
Boyd = 24
Final Score
4. DeSoto (4-1) vs North Mesquite
Desoto's OPA = 82%
Desoto's PPG = 43.8
CHILL (L) - 37.8 (44/+6.2)
Plano (W) - 19.0 (15/-4)
Richardson Berkner (W) - 36.8 (10/-26.8)
Duncanville (W) - 25.2 (23/-2.2)
Flower Mound (W) - 35.4 (35/-.4)
OPF 154.2 = -27.2 (127/82%)
North Mesquite's OPA = 89%
North Mesquite's PPG = 22.2
Rowlett (20.4/-4.4)
North Garland (22.2/-16.2)
Irving MacArthur (18.2/+12.8)
South Garland (17.3/-.3)
OPF 70 = -8 (62/89%)
DeSoto = 39+++ (38.9)
North Mesquite = 18 (18.2)
Desoto = 60
North Mesquite = 17
Final Score
5. Dallas Skyline (5-0) @ Richardson
Skyline's OPA = 71%
Skyline's PPG = 47.6
4A-Kimball (W) - 6.3 (2/-4.3)
Arlington Bowie (W) - 34.5 (26/-8.5)
Plano East (W) - 28.4 (19/-9.4)
Lake Highlands (W) - 29.4 (27/-2.4)
Molina (W) - 5.2 (0/-5.2)
OPF 103.8 = -29.8 (74/71%)
Richardson's OPA = 50%
Richardson's PPG = 40.4
The Colony (15.2/-15.2)
Denton (19.6/+9.4)
4A-Pearce (51.6/-8.6)
Sunset (8.4/-8.4)
White (18/-15)
OPF 75 = -37.8 (37.2/50%)
Skyline = 24+ (23.8)
Richardson = 29 (28.6)
Conversion to:
Skyline = 31
Richardson = 28
Final Score
6. The Woodlands (5-0) vs College Park
The Woodlands OPA = 70%
The Woodlands PPG = 36
Cy Fair (W) - 6.8 (6/-.8)
Katy (W) - 31.4 (27/-4.4)
Clear Lake (W) - 24.0 (27/+3)
Humble Kingwood (W) - 13.4 (7/-6.4)
PA Memorial (W) - 30.0 (7/-23))
OPF 105.6 = -31.6 (74/70%)
College Park's OPA = 47%
College Park's PPG = 29.6
Houston Madison (32.5/-1.5)
Huntsville (27.2/-20.2)
Dekaney (25/-18)
Aldine Nimitz (23/-11)
Cinco Ranch (37.4/+.6)
OPF 95 = -50.1 (44.9/47%)
The Woodlands = 17+ (16.9)
College Park = 21 (20.7)
Conversion to:
The Woodlands = 24
College Park = 21
Final Score
7. Katy (4-1) vs Katy Morton Ranch
Katy's OPA = 56%
Katy's PPG = 28.2
North Shore (W) - 31.4 (7/-24.4)
The Woodlands (L) - 36.0 (31/-5)
OOS-Bellevue (W) - 31 (17/-14)
FM Marcus (W) - 34.5 (24/-10.5)
Beaumont West Brook (W) - 22.8 (7/-15.3)
OPF 155.7 = -69.2 (86.5/56%)
Morton Ranch's OPA = 114.2%
Morton Ranch's PPG = 11.0
Tomball (23.6/+4.4)
Travis (24/0)
Langham Creek (35.4/+1.6)
Magnolia (25.8/-4.8)
Foster (21.5/+22.5)
OPF 166 = 23.7 (189.7/114.2%)
Katy = 32++ (32.2)
Morton Ranch = 6 (6.2)
Conversion to:
Katy = 48
Morton Ranch = 6
Final Score
8. North Shore (4-1) @ Port Arthur Memorial
North Shore's OPA = 65%
North Shore's PPG = 31.4
Katy (L) - 28.2 (9/-19.2)
Aldine Eisenhower (W) - 20.5 (14/-6.5)
Cy Falls (W) - 26.8 (10/-16.8)
4A-La Marque (W) - 22.8 (34/+11.2)
SLC (W) - 44.2 (15/-29.2)
OPF 142.5 = -60.5 (82/65%)
PA Memorial's OPA = 61%
PA Memorial's PPG = 30.0
Beaumont Central (32.4/-4.4)
Ozen (18.6/-1.6)
Aldine Nimitz (23/-9)
Westbury (25.3/-11.3)
The Woodlands (36/-12)
OPF 97 = -38.3 (58.7/61%)
North Shore = 17+ (16.6)
PA Memorial = 20 (19.5)
Conversion to:
North Shore = 24
PA Memorial = 21
Final Score
9. John Tyler (5-0) @ Mesquite Horn
John Tyler's OPA = 61%
John Tyler's PPG = 46.0
4A-Texas High (W) - 27.3 (17/-10.3)
Lufkin (W) - 26.8 (18/-8.8)
Arlington Lamar (W) - 32.5 (22/-10.5)
4A-WF Rider (W) - 11.0 (13/+2)
Lewisville (W) - 26.4 (6/-20.4)
OPF 124 = -48 (76/61%)
Mesquite Horn's OPA = 40%
Mesquite Horn's PPG = 33.4
Martin (30.3/-23.3)
Lake Highlands (29.4/-15.4)
Wylie (26.5/-4.5)
Ennis (27/-3)
Lewisville (26.4/-6.4)
OPF 87 = -52.3 (34.7/40%)
John Tyler = 18 (18.4)
Mesquite Horn = 20 (20.3)
Conversion to:
John Tyler = 17
Mesquite Horn = 21
Final Score
10. Southlake Carroll (4-1) vs Coppell
SLC's OPA = 64%
SLC's PPG = 44.2
Plano West (W) - 39.8 (20/-19.8)
Arlington (W) - 26.3 (14/-12.3)
Houston Bellaire (W) - 31.8 (13/-18.8)
Mesquite (W) - 20.0 (21/+1)
North Shore (L) - 31.4 (28/-3.4)
OPF 149.3 = -53.3 (64%)
Coppell's OPA = .8% (0)
Coppell's PPG = 45.6
South Garland (17.3/-17.3)
Dallas Jesuit (29.6/-12.6)
Highland Park (41.4/-21.4)
Weatherford (23.6/-23.6)
Summit (26.6/-12.6)
OPF 51 = -87.5 (-36.5/.8%)
SLC = 6+ (5.5)
Coppell = 29 (29.1)
Conversion to:
SLC = 14
Coppell = 28
Final Score
11. Euless Trinity (3-2) @ Colleyville Heritage
Euless Trinity's OPA = 35%
Euless Trinity's PPG = 32.0
Bingham (38.6/-17.6)
Cedar Hill (37.8/-14.8)
Allen (37.6/-2.6)
Keller (28.8/-14.8)
Fossil Ridge (21.8/-14.8)
OPF 100 = -64.6 (35.4/35%)
Colleyville Heritage's OPA = 61%
Colleyville Heritage's PPG = 36.2
Midland Lee (28.6/-8.6)
Irving Macarthur (18.2/-12.2)
Plano East (28.4/-4.4)
Fossil Ridge (21.8/-3.8)
Northwest (17.2/-3.2)
OPF 82 = -31.7 (50.3/61%)
Euless Trinity = 20+ (19.5)
Heritage = 13 (12.7)
Conversion to:
Euless Trinity = 27
Heritage = 14
Final Score
12. Lufkin (4-1) @ New Caney
Lufkin's OPA = 0% (0)
Lufkin's PPG = 26.8
Tyler Lee (14.0/-1)
John Tyler (46.0/-19)
4A-Nacogdoches (23.2/-23)
4A-Longview (33.3/-19)
Mesquite (20.0/-6)
OPF 68 = -68 (0/0%)
New Caney's OPA = 104.1%
New Caney's PPG = 14.6
Spring Woods (20.6/-11.6)
4A-Magnolia (25.8/+9.2)
4A-Willis (24.8/+11.2)
Houston Chavez (43.0/0)
Baytown Sterling (24.0/-3)
OPF 144 = 5.9 (149.9/104.1%)
Lufkin = 28++ (27.8)
Spring Woods = 0 (1.4)
Conversion to:
Lufkin = 42
Spring Woods = 0
Final Score
13. Coppell (5-0) @ Southlake Carroll
Coppell's OPA = (Already completed, above!)
Coppell's PPG = (Already completed, above!)
SLC's OPA = (Already completed, above!)
SLC's PPG = (Already completed, above!)
14. Abilene (5-0) @ Weatherford
Abilene's OPA = 42%
Abilene's PPG = 48.4
4A-Dunbar (33.3/-20.3)
4A-Cooper (40.6/-3.6)
Tyler Lee (14/+15)
Burleson (23.3/-20.3)
Paschal (17/-17)
OPF 79 = -36.2 (32.8/42%)
Weatherford's OPA = 97%
Weatherford's PPG = 23.6
4A-The Colony (15.2/-15.8)
Arlington Lamar (32.5/+8.5)
4A-Aledo (39.8/-12.8)
Coppell (45.6/+3.6)
Paschal (17/+11)
OPF 169 = -5.5 (163.5/97%)
Abilene = 47+++ (46.9)
Weatherford = 10 (9.9)
Conversion to:
Abilene = 68
Weatherford = 10
Final Score
15. FB Hightower (5-0) vs FB Dulles
FB Hightower's OPA = -4% (0)
FB Hightower's PPG = 29.8
IKE (20.5/-20.5)
FB Kempner (23.8/-16.8)
FB Bush (21/-7)
FB Austin (8.8/-3.5)
FB Travis (24/-17)
OPF 33 = -64.8 (-31.8/-4%)
FB Dulles' OPA = 110%
FB Dulles' PPG = 24.8
Seven Lakes (29.2/-29.2)
FB Willowridge (13.3/+.7)
FB Travis (24/+2)
FB Kempner (23.8/+30.2)
FB Clements (27.4/+7.4)
OPF 114 = 11.1 (125.1/110%)
FB Hightower = 33+ (32.8)
FB Dulles = 0
Conversion to:
FB Hightower = 42
FB Dulles = 0
Final Score
16. Richardson Berkner (4-1) @ Lake Highlands
Berkner's OPA = 1%
Berkner's PPG = 36.8
SGP (24.5/-5.5)
North Crowley (22.2/-1.2)
DeSoto (43.8/-30.8)
Molina (5.2/+.8)
Carrollton Creekview (21.8/-21.8)
OPF 59 = -58.5 (.5/1%)
LH's OPA = 51%
LH's PPG = 29.4
Mesquite (20/-6)
Mesquite Horn (33.4/-2.6)
Garland (31/-25)
Skyline (47.6/-5.6)
Sunset (8.4/-8.4)
OPF 98 = -47.6 (50.4/51%)
Berkner = 19 (18.7)
Lake Highlands = 0++ (.3)
Conversion to:
Richardson Berkner = 20
Lake Highlands = 14
Final Score
17. Mesquite Horn (5-0) vs Tyler John Tyler
Horn's OPA = (Already completed, above!)
Horn's PPG = (Already completed, above!)
JT's OPA = (Already completed, above!)
JT's PPG = (Already completed, above!)
18. Copperas Cove (5-0) @ Bryan
CC's OPA = 68%
CC's PPG = 40.0
SA Central (16.6/-10.6)
4A-Waco (21.4/+2.6)
McKinney Boyd (44.7/-6.7)
Ellison (20.6/-7.6)
Temple (17/-7)
OPF 91 = -29.3 (61.7/68%)
Bryan's OPA = 117%
Bryan's PPG = 35.8
Cy Falls (26.8/+25.2)
Leander (26.4/-1.4)
RR McNeil (24.8/+9.2)
Shoemaker (10.6/-10.4)
Consolidated (36.2/+7.8)
OPF 175 = 30.4 (205.4/117%)
Copperas Cove = 47+ (46.8)
Bryan = 24 (24.3)
Conversion to:
Copperas Cove = 56
Bryan = 21
Final Score
19. Arlington Bowie (4-1) vs Mansfield
Bowie's OPA = 36%
Bowie's PPG = 32.6
4A-Lincoln (35.2/-18.2)
South Garland (17.3/-4.3)
Skyline (47.6/-12.6)
4A-Wyatt (14.3/-8.3)
Martin (30.3/-9.3)
OPF 82 = -52.7 (29.3/36%)
Mansfield's OPA = 103%
Mansfield's PPG = 17.0
Irving (14.3/+6.7)
4A-Legacy (18.6/-4.6)
Irving Macarthur (18.2/+8.8)
Burleson (23.3/-3.3)
Arlington Sam Houston (30/+4)
Summitt (26.6/-6.4)
OPF 149 = 5.2 (154.2/103%)
Arlington Bowie = 34++ (33.5)
Mansfield = 6 (6.1)
Conversion to:
Arlington Bowie = 48
Mansfield = 7
Final Score
20. Katy Cinco Ranch (5-0) @ Katy Taylor
CR's OPA = 48%
CR's PPG = 37.4
SA Reagan (24/-24)
Cy Springs (27.8/-10.8)
Cy Ridge (29.4/(-4.5)
Conroe (27.8/-12.8)
College Park (29.6/-6.6)
OPF 107 = -58.7 (48.3/48%)
Taylor's OPA = 38%
Taylor's PPG = 28.5
Cy Springs (27.8/-13.8)
4A-Terry (23.8/-17.8)
Houston Lamar (29.0/-1)
Baytown Lee (17.8/-4.8)
OPF 61 = -37.8 (23.2/38%)
Cinco Ranch = 14+ (14.2)
Taylor = 14 (13.6)
Conversion to:
Cinco Ranch = 21
Taylor = 14
Final Score
21. SA Clark (6-0) @ SA OConnor
Clark's OPA = -6% (0)
Clark's PPG = 31.3
SA Churchill (15.2/-15.2)
4A-Alamo Heights (32.0/-19)
SA Brandeis (27.6/-14.6)
SA Stevens (33.8/-17.8)
SA Marshall (10.8/-3.8)
SA Jay (15.6/-15.6)
OPF 55 = -86 (-31/-6%)
SAO's OPA = 125%
SAO's PPG = 24.4
SA Madison (33.3/+6.7)
Laredo Alexander (20.0/+1)
SA Marshall (10.8/+9.2)
SA Jay (15.6/+6.4)
SA Warren (19.2/+8.8)
OPF 131 = 32.1 (163.1/125%)
SA Clark = 39+ (39.1)
SA'O = 0
Conversion to:
SA Clark = 45
SA O'Connor = 0
Final Score
22. Austin Westlake (4-1) vs Bastrop
Westlake's OPA = 15%
Westlake's PPG = 23.8
Cedar Park (30.2/-15.8)
4A-Lake Travis (52.7/-9.3)
Consolidated (36.2/-28.8)
Bowie (25.2/-17.8)
Pflugerville (23.2/-3.8)
OPF 89 = -75.5 (13.5/15%)
Bastrop's OPA = 94%
Bastrop's PPG = 27.5
4A-Buda Hays (16/-2)
Shoemaker (10.6/-3.4)
Pflugerville (23.2/+2.8)
Connally (21.4/-1.6)
OPF 65 = -4.2 (60.8/94%)
Westlake = 22+ (22.3)
Bastrop = 4 (4.1)
Conversion to:
Westlake = 31
Bastrop = 3
Final Score
23. Garland (4-1) @ Garland Sachse
Garland's OPA = -2%
Garland's PPG = 31.0
4A-Kimball (6/-6)
Lake Highlands (29.4/-22.6)
4A-Cooper (40.6/-5.6)
South Garland (17.3/-.3)
Lake Cent. (24/-24)
OPF 57 = -58.5 (-1.5/-2%)
GS's OPA = 65%
GS's PPG = 28.4
4A-Pearce (51.6/-2.6)
4A-McKinney (43.6/-17.6)
Forney (29.2/-15.2)
North Garland (22.2/-1.2)
Naaman Forest (37/-11)
OPF 136 = -47.6 (88.4/65%)
Garland = 21++ (20.5)
Sachse = 0
Conversion to:
Garland = 35
Sachse = 0
Final Score
24. Cy Creek (5-0) @ Cy Woods
Creek's OPA = 75%
Creek's PPG = 38.2
Klein Oak (18.2/-1.2)
Tomball (23.6/(-4.3)
Oak Ridge (38.0/+11)
Langham Creek (35.4/-14.4)
Cy Ridge (29.4/-17.4)
OPF 105 = -26.3 (78.7/75%)
CW's OPA = 112%
CW's PPG = 39.4
Consolidated (36.2/+12.8)
Klein Oak (18.2/+4.8)
Stratford (24.2/-10.2)
Cy Ridge (29.4/+16.6)
Jersey Village (19.8/-6.8)
OPF 145 = 17.2 (162.2/112%)
Cy Creek = 43+ (42.7)
Cy Woods = 30 (29.5)
Conversion to :
Cy Creek = 49
Cy Woods = 28
Final Score
25. FM Marcus (3-1) @ Keller Fossil Ridge
FM's OPA = 84%
FM's PPG = 34.5
Grapevine (25.2/+2.8)
Plano West (39.8/-14.8)
Katy (28.2/+3.8)
Tyler Lee (14.0/-7)
OPF 94 = -15.2 (78.8/84%)
KFR's OPA = 119%
KFR's PPG = 21.8
Arlington Lamar (32.5/+1.5)
Flower Mound (35.4/+26.6)
Heritage (36.2/-8.8)
Euless Trinity (32/+16)
OPF 189 = 35.3 (224.3/119%)
FM Marcus = 41+ (41.1)
Keller Fossil Ridge = 18 (18.3)
Conversion to:
FM Marcus = 49
Keller FR = 17
Final Score
KEY
(7 pts) + = Good SOS/Good Offense vs Average Def.
(10 pts) +- = Good SOS/Good Offense vs Average Def.
(14 pts) ++ = Good SOS/Excellent Offense vs Average Def.
(21 pts) +++ = Good SOS/Excellent Offense vs Below Avg. Def.
Below Average Def. = 85% and above
Average Def. = 65% and above
Good Def. 65% and below
Excellent Off. PPG = 41+
Good Off. PPG = 31-40
Average Off. PPG = 21-30
Below Average Off. PPG = 11-20
Poor Off. PPG = 0-10
Good SOS = 31 OPPGA and above
Average SOS = 21-30 OPPGA
Below Avg. SOS = 20 and below OPPGA
Quick Points:
It looks like North Shore may be in for a tough one against PA Memorial.
Actually, North Shore, Skyline and The Woodlands are on upset alert. Their opponent is not going to be teams to take lightly - not assuming they will. Those should be some good games.
SLC looks to be heading into a war, and I actually see them limping away from this one. Stats are just that... so I'm sure no SLC fans will be moved by these random "statistical" posts. Still, Coppell spanked a damn good Highland Park team, and SLC better be at their very best. I have Coppell beating them worse than North Shore did. Take note.. I had SLC beating North Shore 28-21!
Anything can happen, ladies and gents! Goodluck to all the teams in the Top 25!
NOTE: These stats do not incorporate injury, weather, or turnovers.
How does your system have Mesquite Horn projected to beat John Tyler when they have a common opponent in Lewisville and JT spanked Lewisville 70-6 and Mesquite Horn barely won 27-20?:confused:
Doesn't make much since to me.......
KatyTigerDad0407
10-08-2009, 07:06 PM
12. Lufkin (4-1) @ New Caney
Lufkin's OPA = 0% (0)
Lufkin's PPG = 26.8
Tyler Lee (14.0/-1)
John Tyler (46.0/-19)
4A-Nacogdoches (23.2/-23)
4A-Longview (33.3/-19)
Mesquite (20.0/-6)
OPF 68 = -68 (0/0%)
New Caney's OPA = 104.1%
New Caney's PPG = 14.6
Spring Woods (20.6/-11.6)
4A-Magnolia (25.8/+9.2)
4A-Willis (24.8/+11.2)
Houston Chavez (43.0/0)
Baytown Sterling (24.0/-3)
OPF 144 = 5.9 (149.9/104.1%)
Lufkin = 28++ (27.8)
Spring Woods = 0 (1.4)
Conversion to:
Lufkin = 42
Spring Woods = 0:D
Final Score
I picked Coppell but i did not pick M Horn
ThEgReAtOnE
10-08-2009, 07:28 PM
How does your system have Mesquite Horn projected to beat John Tyler when they have a common opponent in Lewisville and JT spanked Lewisville 70-6 and Mesquite Horn barely won 27-20?:confused:
Doesn't make much since to me.......
The system calculates tendency/percentage... not 1-game common opponents. There are different factors for every game, so 1 particular game can be completely off for any team. For example, you couldn't gauge Oklahoma vs Virginia Tech, based on VaTech's/OU's game w/ Miami. 1) VaTech played Miami in a severe rain storm, and considering 60% of Miami's scoring offense is through the air it would be difficult to gauge a rematch... and 2) OU played w/o their #1 QB and #1 WR. If VT and OU were to meet, later in a Bowl game, and OU had Bradford and Broyles back - and there was no rain - it would be very difficult to gauge how the game would turn out.
These stats are based on production over a period of time. Do you remember when Lufkin destroyed Klein (70-24) in the 2006 Playoffs... then the very next week Round Rock shocked Lufkin? Who would've thunk it?! Can't always go off of 1-game common opponents. I've learned that over the years.
P.S. You may be right, and JT may kick the crap out of Horn! We'll see. I still think it's an interesting analysis.
I think you need to understand this is far more objective, than subjective. Those stats are based on what these teams are doing (averaging). The stats reflect tendencies.. percentages. Anyhow, my purely subjective thinking is SLC is going to make it a game. Max-potential, based on what has happened, so far, suggests a low-scoring game (less than 30 pts, by both teams) decided by aproximately no more than 14 pts.
A little breakdown I put in the carroll/Coppell thread last week.
Here is a little breakdown of both teams, offensively and defensively.
Coppell has played teams that are a combined 13-12.
Carroll has played teams that are a combined 14-13.
Coppell's opponents average scoring 27.08 points per game and average giving up 28.04 points per game.
Carroll's opponents average scoring 38.38 points per game and average giving up 27.93 points per game.
Coppell is averaging scoring 45.6 points per game and averaging giving up 10.2 points per game.
Carroll is averaging scoring 44.2 points per game and averaging giving up 19.6 points per game.
Coppell scored 17.56 more points per game against their opponents than what they normally give up.
Carroll scored 16.27 more points per game against their opponents than what they normally give up.
Coppell gave up 16.88 less points against their opponents than what they normally score.
Carroll gave up 18.75 less points against their opponents than what they normally score.
Coppell averages gaining 415 yds per game and averages giving up 258 yds per game.
Carroll averages gaining 544.8 yds per game and averages giving up 335.8 yds per game.
Coppell's opponents average gaining 361.56 yds per game and average giving up 355.08 yds per game.
Carroll's opponents average gaining 500 yds per game and average giving up 378.24 yds per game.
Coppell gained 60.52 more yds per game than what thier opponents normally give up.
Carroll gained 166.56 more yds per game than what their opponents normally give up.
Coppell gave up 103.56 less yds per game than what their opponents normally average.
Carroll gave up 164.2 less yds per game than what their opponents normally average.
Coppell averages 6.8 penalties per game.
Carroll averages 4.6 penalties per game.
ThEgReAtOnE
10-08-2009, 07:30 PM
I picked Coppell but i did not pick M Horn
Don't start... this was a ton of research. I'm curious to see the outcomes. :D
ThEgReAtOnE
10-08-2009, 07:58 PM
A little breakdown I put in the carroll/Coppell thread last week.
My numbers are hidden inside of yours. Have you given a prediction on the score? (I haven't read the Coppell/SLC thread.)
My numbers are hidden inside of yours. Have you given a prediction on the score? (I haven't read the Coppell/SLC thread.)
Yea...I am factoring in some intangibles such as home field advantage, Carroll coming off a loss with a few weeks to stew about it, Homecoming game for Carroll, distaste for Coppell..etc.:D
I've picked it as 42-28 Carroll.
the_phoenix612
10-08-2009, 08:28 PM
People need to stop quoting the main post. We're 12 posts into the thread and its already absurdly long.
People need to stop quoting the main post. We're 12 posts into the thread and its already absurdly long.
I hate that.
AE 8008
10-08-2009, 09:25 PM
Yea...I am factoring in some intangibles such as home field advantage, Carroll coming off a loss with a few weeks to stew about it, Homecoming game for Carroll, distaste for Coppell..etc.:D
I've picked it as 42-28 Carroll.
i like this number
ThEgReAtOnE
10-08-2009, 10:24 PM
3. Allen (4-1) @ McKinney Boyd
Allen's OPA = 57%
Allen's PPG = 37.6
4A-Longview (L) - 33.3 (28/-5.3)
OOS-Monterrey Tech (W) - 28.3 (21/-7.3)
Rockwall (W) - 30.4 (10/-20.4)
Eluess Trinity (W) - 32.0 (28/-4)
Plano West (W) - 39.8 (6/-33.8)
OPF 163.8 = -70.8 (93/57%)
McKinney Boyd's OPA = 130%
McKinney Boyd's PPG = 44.7
McKinney North (17.4/-10.4)
Frisco Centennial (33.6/-.6)
Copperas Cove (40/+8)
McKinney (43.6/+34.4)
Wylie (26.5/-.5)
Plano West (39.8/+44.2)
OPF 250 = +75.1 (325.1/130%)
Allen = 49++ (48.8)
Boyd = 25 (25.4)
Conversion to:
Allen = 63
Boyd = 24
Final Score
The purely objective score is more indicative of the real score.
Allen 45
Boyd 21
Final
Wow... that's odd! LMAO!
The +'s are more subjective in nature, using personal preference of SOS. The first score is based on statistical tendencies/percentages. The "Conversion" scores adds the subjective nature to the calculating.
I'm looking forward to the scores, tomorrow night.
ktCarl
10-08-2009, 10:39 PM
7. Katy (4-1) vs Katy Morton Ranch
Katy's OPA = 56%
Katy's PPG = 28.2
North Shore (W) - 31.4 (7/-24.4)
The Woodlands (L) - 36.0 (31/-5)
OOS-Bellevue (W) - 31 (17/-14)
FM Marcus (W) - 34.5 (24/-10.5)
Beaumont West Brook (W) - 22.8 (7/-15.3)
OPF 155.7 = -69.2 (86.5/56%)
Morton Ranch's OPA = 114.2%
Morton Ranch's PPG = 11.0
Tomball (23.6/+4.4)
Travis (24/0)
Langham Creek (35.4/+1.6)
Magnolia (25.8/-4.8)
Foster (21.5/+22.5)
OPF 166 = 23.7 (189.7/114.2%)
Katy = 32++ (32.2)
Morton Ranch = 6 (6.2)
Conversion to:
Katy = 48
Morton Ranch = 6
Final Score
NOTE: These stats do not incorporate injury, weather, or turnovers.
It's Katy's Homecoming...I believe. Morton Ranch might score 10 points. Combination of distraction and later in the game when Katy has 2's and 3's playing.
ThEgReAtOnE
10-08-2009, 10:59 PM
It's Katy's Homecoming...I believe. Morton Ranch might score 10 points. Combination of distraction and later in the game when Katy has 2's and 3's playing.
They might. Ranch's offense isn't strong, at all. I know you said the "human factor" may add a wrinkle in the score, but it sure hasn't done much for them, so far. From a tendency standpoint, Ranch will give Katy more, offensively, than they're used to.. and offensively, Ranch will face the toughest defense they've had to face. Katy's 2's and 3's are likely equivalent to what Ranch has been seeing, and they averaged basically a td and fg on them... over 4 qtrs. Katy, tendency-wise, is only going to allow Ranch around half of what they're used to.
My personal feeling is we're likely to see the objective/subjective version of this game (48-6), rather than the purely objective (32-6). But either will suit me fine. I'm just curious to see the tendency aspect of the games.
teXan
10-08-2009, 11:16 PM
Teach me, OG TGO, how to read Clear Lake (W) - 24.0 (27/+3). I don't get what all this means.
ThEgReAtOnE
10-09-2009, 08:40 AM
Teach me, OG TGO, how to read Clear Lake (W) - 24.0 (27/+3). I don't get what all this means.
The 24 is the average of pts per game.
The 27 is how many pts they scored on the TWHS.
The +3 is the margin.
Each of TWHS's opponents are calculated to form a total # of average-pts scored by their oppents, then the total margin is either subtracted or added to that. That number is then divided back into the average-pts, and a margin of error is formulated. Currently, the margin of error (or opponents pts average/OPA) for TWHS is 70%. That means TWHS's averages allowing opponents to score 70% of their typical pts scored.
For example, if Blue HS averaged scoring 35 pts per game... TWHS's defensive tendency predicts they will allow BHS to score 24.5 (25) of their 35 pts. (35 x 70%)
Now, the tendency average works toward ideal situations under normal averages. Fumbles, penalties, turnovers, etc. are typically reflected in average PPG. However, when something out of the norm occurs (e.g. injury to major impact player, weather, or game-chaning turnovers) the law of tendency can be thrown out the door. Also, this kind of calculation flows more along the thinking of good teams playing towards their potential, rather than slacking off after they get ahead a few tds.
The SOS is more along the subjective thinking. My experience of researchig game tells me that if you are averaging 21-30 pts vs teams that have 80% or less in their margin of error, defensively, and your team is below 80% in margin of error, defensively... you have a good team. If your team is averaging 31-40 pts vs teams that have 80% or less in margin of error, defensively, and your team is below 65% in margin of error, defensively... you have a great team.
The higher your OPA... the worse your defense is, regardless of SOS! SOS usually = out over the course of the season, but some teams, like Euless Trinity, have faced some tremendous offenses, and have low OPA's... which isn't good for their opponents! However, look at the 2 teams who beat ET. They have better offenses, and Allen has a better defensive margin of error. I would question whether out-of-norm characteristics came into play vs CHILL. ET should've scored more pts, given the horrible margin of error for CHILL's defense (94%).
The 24 is the average of pts per game.
The 27 is how many pts they scored on the TWHS.
The +3 is the margin.
Each of TWHS's opponents are calculated to form a total # of average-pts scored by their oppents, then the total margin is either subtracted or added to that. That number is then divided back into the average-pts, and a margin of error is formulated. Currently, the margin of error (or opponents pts average/OPA) for TWHS is 70%. That means TWHS's averages allowing opponents to score 70% of their typical pts scored.
For example, if Blue HS averaged scoring 35 pts per game... TWHS's defensive tendency predicts they will allow BHS to score 24.5 (25) of their 35 pts. (35 x 70%)
Now, the tendency average works toward ideal situations under normal averages. Fumbles, penalties, turnovers, etc. are typically reflected in average PPG. However, when something out of the norm occurs (e.g. injury to major impact player, weather, or game-chaning turnovers) the law of tendency can be thrown out the door. Also, this kind of calculation flows more along the thinking of good teams playing towards their potential, rather than slacking off after they get ahead a few tds.
The SOS is more along the subjective thinking. My experience of researchig game tells me that if you are averaging 21-30 pts vs teams that have 80% or less in their margin of error, defensively, and your team is below 80% in margin of error, defensively... you have a good team. If your team is averaging 31-40 pts vs teams that have 80% or less in margin of error, defensively, and your team is below 65% in margin of error, defensively... you have a great team.
The higher your OPA... the worse your defense is, regardless of SOS! SOS usually = out over the course of the season, but some teams, like Euless Trinity, have faced some tremendous offenses, and have low OPA's... which isn't good for their opponents! However, look at the 2 teams who beat ET. They have better offenses, and Allen has a better defensive margin of error. I would question whether out-of-norm characteristics came into play vs CHILL. ET should've scored more pts, given the horrible margin of error for CHILL's defense (94%).
Good stuff TGO...It'll be interesting to see how all this plays out.
In that Chill/Trinity game, it was raining the enitre game and Trinity did have a few unitmely penalties, not that Chill's penalties weren't untimely as well though. I do think part of Trinity's inflated numbers were because of the first oppnent (Bingham) not being as good as was predicted, hence you notice that against Texas competition (other than the 0-4 Panthers), Trinity hasn't managed more than 28 points.
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[B][U]3. Allen (4-1) @ McKinney Boyd
Allen's OPA = 57%
Allen's PPG = 37.6
4A-Longview (L) - 33.3 (28/-5.3)
OOS-Monterrey Tech (W) - 28.3 (21/-7.3)
Rockwall (W) - 30.4 (10/-20.4)
Eluess Trinity (W) - 32.0 (28/-4)
Plano West (W) - 39.8 (6/-33.8)
OPF 163.8 = -70.8 (93/57%)
McKinney Boyd's OPA = 130%
McKinney Boyd's PPG = 44.7
McKinney North (17.4/-10.4)
Frisco Centennial (33.6/-.6)
Copperas Cove (40/+8)
McKinney (43.6/+34.4)
Wylie (26.5/-.5)
Plano West (39.8/+44.2)
OPF 250 = +75.1 (325.1/130%)
Allen = 49++ (48.8)
Boyd = 25 (25.4)
Conversion to:
Allen = 63
Boyd = 24
Final Score
Final
Allen 45
Boyd 21
not bad.
Jayhawker
10-09-2009, 03:17 PM
thanks TGO...great info---how have you been fairing so far this year?
ThEgReAtOnE
10-09-2009, 04:44 PM
thanks TGO...great info---how have you been fairing so far this year?
I just started, this week. I'm curious to see how the scores unravel, tonight. I'm hoping not to be off but more than 3 or 4 pts, either way. However, the weather looks to make my stats look bad, here, in the Houston area. LMAO! I'm not a weather forcaster.. and that's what sux about football. If this were the NBA, I would likely be far more accurate w/ the numbers game, as there would be no need to worry about the weather.
Anyhow... I'll keep updating, throughout tonight!
ThEgReAtOnE
10-09-2009, 04:48 PM
Final
Allen 45
Boyd 21
not bad.
Thnx! The purely objective score (48-24) seems to fit the game (45-21) almost perfectly. Did you also see the Neb/Mizzou score? My objective prediction was 28-14 w/ Neb winning. Final score was 27-12... w/ Neb winning. I have no idea how that happened, considering the massive-rain (at the game) changed the dynamic of tendency, within the game.
Thnx! The purely objective score (48-24) seems to fit the game (45-21) almost perfectly. Did you also see the Neb/Mizzou score? My objective prediction was 28-14 w/ Neb winning. Final score was 27-12... w/ Neb winning. I have no idea how that happened, considering the massive-rain (at the game) changed the dynamic of tendency, within the game.
Those damn interceptions changed the direction of that Neb/Mizzou game. Yes, you obviously know I picked Mizzou to win that game in the CF Top Gun.:mad:
Jayhawker
10-09-2009, 05:30 PM
I just started, this week. I'm curious to see how the scores unravel, tonight. I'm hoping not to be off but more than 3 or 4 pts, either way. However, the weather looks to make my stats look bad, here, in the Houston area. LMAO! I'm not a weather forcaster.. and that's what sux about football. If this were the NBA, I would likely be far more accurate w/ the numbers game, as there would be no need to worry about the weather.
Anyhow... I'll keep updating, throughout tonight!
..the weather will definitely play with ya this week but not quite as bad as in year's past...now with most schools having turf unless it is a monsoon most of the fields drain fairly well..just depends on how some kids adapt to it.
ktCarl
10-09-2009, 10:03 PM
My personal feeling is we're likely to see the objective/subjective version of this game (48-6), rather than the purely objective (32-6). But either will suit me fine. I'm just curious to see the tendency aspect of the games.
39-0 Katy. Pretty close.
the_phoenix612
10-09-2009, 10:59 PM
I think you need to understand this is far more objective, than subjective. Those stats are based on what these teams are doing (averaging). The stats reflect tendencies.. percentages. Anyhow, my purely subjective thinking is SLC is going to make it a game. Max-potential, based on what has happened, so far, suggests a low-scoring game (less than 30 pts, by both teams) decided by aproximately no more than 14 pts.
oh so close to the over/under. Right at 30.
24-6 Carroll in a game with a very very sloppy 1st quarter
ThEgReAtOnE
10-09-2009, 11:38 PM
39-0 Katy. Pretty close.
1. RR Stony Point (5-0) @ Georgetown
RRSP = 56++ (56.4) (52)
Georgetown = 6 (6.3) (0)
Conversion to:
RRSP = 70
Georgetown = 6
Final Score
2. Cedar Hill (5-0) vs Irving
CHILL = 48+++ (47.5) (65)
Irving = 10 (10.4) (0)
Conversion to:
CHILL = 69
Irving = 10
Final Score
3. Allen (4-1) @ McKinney Boyd
Allen = 49++ (48.8) (45)
Boyd = 25 (25.4) (21)
Conversion to:
Allen = 63
Boyd = 24
Final Score
4. DeSoto (4-1) vs North Mesquite
DeSoto = 39+++ (38.9) (48)
North Mesquite = 18 (18.2) (27)
Desoto = 60
North Mesquite = 17
Final Score
5. Dallas Skyline (5-0) @ Richardson
Skyline = 24+ (23.8) (31)
Richardson = 29 (28.6) (7)
Conversion to:
Skyline = 31
Richardson = 28
Final Score
6. The Woodlands (5-0) vs College Park
The Woodlands = 17+ (16.9) (14)
College Park = 21 (20.7) (0)
Conversion to:
The Woodlands = 24
College Park = 21
Final Score
7. Katy (4-1) vs Katy Morton Ranch
Katy = 32++ (32.2) (39)
Morton Ranch = 6 (6.2) (0)
Conversion to:
Katy = 48
Morton Ranch = 6
Final Score
8. North Shore (4-1) @ Port Arthur Memorial
North Shore = 17+ (16.6) (6)
PA Memorial = 20 (19.5) (7)
Conversion to:
North Shore = 24
PA Memorial = 21
Final Score
9. John Tyler (5-0) @ Mesquite Horn
John Tyler = 18 (18.4) (59)
Mesquite Horn = 20 (20.3) (28)
Conversion to:
John Tyler = 17
Mesquite Horn = 21
Final Score
10. Southlake Carroll (4-1) vs Coppell
SLC = 6+ (5.5) (24)
Coppell = 29 (29.1) (6)
Conversion to:
SLC = 14
Coppell = 28
Final Score
11. Euless Trinity (3-2) @ Colleyville Heritage
Euless Trinity = 20+ (19.5) (21)
Heritage = 13 (12.7) (0)
Conversion to:
Euless Trinity = 27
Heritage = 14
Final Score
12. Lufkin (4-1) @ New Caney
Lufkin = 28++ (27.8) (47)
New Caney = 0 (1.4) (6)
Conversion to:
Lufkin = 42
New Caney = 0
Final Score
13. Coppell (5-0) @ Southlake Carroll
Coppell's OPA = (Already completed, above!)
Coppell's PPG = (Already completed, above!)
SLC's OPA = (Already completed, above!)
SLC's PPG = (Already completed, above!)
14. Abilene (5-0) @ Weatherford
Abilene = 47+++ (46.9) (33)
Weatherford = 10 (9.9) (14)
Conversion to:
Abilene = 68
Weatherford = 10
Final Score
15. FB Hightower (5-0) vs FB Dulles
FB Hightower = 33+ (32.8)
FB Dulles = 0
Conversion to:
FB Hightower = 42
FB Dulles = 0
Final Score
16. Richardson Berkner (4-1) @ Lake Highlands
Berkner = 19 (18.7) (10)
Lake Highlands = 0++ (.3) (20)
Conversion to:
Richardson Berkner = 20
Lake Highlands = 14
Final Score
17. Mesquite Horn (5-0) vs Tyler John Tyler
Horn's OPA = (Already completed, above!)
Horn's PPG = (Already completed, above!)
JT's OPA = (Already completed, above!)
JT's PPG = (Already completed, above!)
18. Copperas Cove (5-0) @ Bryan
Copperas Cove = 47+ (46.8) (20)
Bryan = 24 (24.3) (34)
Conversion to:
Copperas Cove = 56
Bryan = 21
Final Score
19. Arlington Bowie (4-1) vs Mansfield
Arlington Bowie = 34++ (33.5) (58)
Mansfield = 6 (6.1) (20)
Conversion to:
Arlington Bowie = 48
Mansfield = 7
Final Score
20. Katy Cinco Ranch (5-0) @ Katy Taylor
Cinco Ranch = 14+ (14.2)
Taylor = 14 (13.6)
Conversion to:
Cinco Ranch = 21
Taylor = 14
Final Score
21. SA Clark (6-0) @ SA OConnor
SA Clark = 39+ (39.1) (31)
SA'O = 0 (0)
Conversion to:
SA Clark = 45
SA O'Connor = 0
Final Score
22. Austin Westlake (4-1) vs Bastrop
Westlake = 22+ (22.3) (21)
Bastrop = 4 (4.1) (24)
Conversion to:
Westlake = 31
Bastrop = 3
Final Score
23. Garland (4-1) @ Garland Sachse
Garland = 21++ (20.5) (35)
Sachse = 0 (7)
Conversion to:
Garland = 35
Sachse = 0
Final Score
24. Cy Creek (5-0) @ Cy Woods
Cy Creek = 43+ (42.7) (20)
Cy Woods = 30 (29.5) (21)
Conversion to :
Cy Creek = 49
Cy Woods = 28
Final Score
25. FM Marcus (3-1) - n/a
Red = Loss
Okay...
Accuracy is key. Some scores were pretty close to their objective predictions. Some scores were completely flip-flopped which tells me some of these teams were playing far below their potential, in their first few games, and are now playing closer to their potential, while their opponents either had truly weaker schedules - inflating numbers - or they have peaked out, in their potential. For the record, no team will ever reach their potential, as potential always = 100% or perfection. (Nothing is perfect!) However, usually the team that gets the closest to their potential ends up winning state.
I went 12-8 (60%) on the night, which tells me either out-of-norm aspects were involved (rain, injuries, game-changing turnovers, etc.), some teams played far below their capability, or I need to calculate numbers based on recent opponent-domination, as it seems many teams have settled into their potential, while many others in the Top 25 are still climbing!
What JT did to Horn was without doubt amazing! For the record, Horn's defensive margin of error rated at 40% and an offensive production of 33.4 ppg w/ teams like Lake Highlands, Ennis, and Martin on their schedule!
Objectively, my numbers predicted North Shore would lose.. but also that SLC would only score 6 pts and College Park would score 21 pts... neither of which came close to happening.
These outcomes do more to notice which teams are playing consistantly enough to gauge their actual strength/weakness.
The FM Marcus game showed a different opponent calculation, so it was voided.
Hightower/Dulles and CR/Taylor are tomorrrow.
kalanj
10-09-2009, 11:49 PM
The Great One where would you rank JT after the thrashing they gave M. Horn?
ThEgReAtOnE
10-09-2009, 11:52 PM
An argument can be made that, based just on their statistical analysis, Richardson, College Park, Copperas Cove, and Coppell are overrated. An argument can also be made that Skyline, The Woodlands, SLC, Bryan, Bastrop, and Lake Highlands are CLEARLY better than their statistical-record indicates. There is no argument about John Tyler. They are CLEARLY for real, and will likely be rated as potent as RRSP!
A new analysis will be put together, based on these results, early next week! I feel I will be closer to gauging the Top 25's tendency/error of margin, at that time.
ThEgReAtOnE
10-10-2009, 12:06 AM
The Great One where would you rank JT after the thrashing they gave M. Horn?
Pretty f'n high, now! LMAO! This team is without doubt as potent as I've seen them in a while. Congrats JT fans... CUJO is BAAAAACK! I wouldn't argue with the notion of moving them ahead of Allen, at the #3 spot. They destroyed #17 Horn.. and beat #12 Lufkin, too.
I'll think about it some more.
the_phoenix612
10-10-2009, 12:08 AM
Pretty f'n high, now! LMAO! This team is without doubt as potent as I've seen them in a while. Congrats JT fans... CUJO is BAAAAACK! I wouldn't argue with the notion of moving them ahead of Allen, at the #3 spot. They destroyed #17 Horn.. and beat #12 Lufkin, too.
I'll think about it some more.
Where do you see Carroll going? Beating #13 but having the team they lost to lose to an unranked team...
ThEgReAtOnE
10-10-2009, 12:27 AM
Where do you see Carroll going? Beating #13 but having the team they lost to lose to an unranked team...
North Shore lost to a team w/ a damn good defense, in Port Arthur Memorial. The game wasn't under ideal conditions, but I knew it would be tough.. and objectively Memorial was calculated to win. I see North Shore falling out of the Top 10, but maybe as low 15th. I see SLC moving up to #9. They beat a good Coppell team, soundly. That Coppell team whipped a good 4A-Highland Park team, too. ET moves back into the Top 10.
Teams like PA Memorial, Dekaney, and Bastrop have to get some looks to enter the Top 25, now. Horn, Cy Creek, and Berkner are prolly looking at falling out of the Top 25. Memorial has a loss to B. Central - a tough 4A team who only has a 6 pt loss to West Brook, and blowout wins over everyone except Memorial. Bastrop is undefeated, and Dekaney has a loss to a solid College Park team.
LPack007
10-10-2009, 12:33 AM
Pretty f'n high, now! LMAO! This team is without doubt as potent as I've seen them in a while. Congrats JT fans... CUJO is BAAAAACK! I wouldn't argue with the notion of moving them ahead of Allen, at the #3 spot. They destroyed #17 Horn.. and beat #12 Lufkin, too.
I'll think about it some more.
John Tyler and Lufkin should be ranked ahead of Allen Imo..
CuJo iS BaCk
10-10-2009, 01:54 AM
Pretty f'n high, now! LMAO! This team is without doubt as potent as I've seen them in a while. Congrats JT fans... CUJO is BAAAAACK! I wouldn't argue with the notion of moving them ahead of Allen, at the #3 spot. They destroyed #17 Horn.. and beat #12 Lufkin, too.
I'll think about it some more.
Hence the name!!!!!!:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy
JT has to be mentioned along with Stony Point and Cedar Hill!!!
Can't wait till the Desoto game... I don't see any competition until then.
John Tyler and Lufkin should be ranked ahead of Allen Imo..
You can almost make that arguement for JT, but why would you rank Lufkin ahead of Allen?
ThEgReAtOnE
10-10-2009, 11:26 PM
15. FB Hightower (5-0) vs FB Dulles
FB Hightower = 33+ (32.8) (38)
FB Dulles = 0 (12)
Conversion to:
FB Hightower = 42
FB Dulles = 0
Final Score
20. Katy Cinco Ranch (5-0) @ Katy Taylor
Cinco Ranch = 14+ (14.2) (21)
Taylor = 14 (13.6) (16)
Conversion to:
Cinco Ranch = 21
Taylor = 14
Final Score
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FB Hightower was a tad off, defensively. Objectively, their defense shouldn't have given up 12 pts! The Cinco Ranch/Taylor game played out almost perfectly. From the subjective (SOS)/objective standpoint, I had CR winning 21-14, but purely objective numbers had both teams being identical!
I'm looking forward to calculating the numbers, again, and getting closer to the max-potential of the Top 25 teams. I'm now seeing their error of margin's far more clearly, and will be basing my new numbers off of a new max system. The playoffs look to be vastly interesting! At quick glance, it looks as if around 12 to 13 teams - from the Top 25 - are nearly 95% as a advertised.. meaning, upsets will likely be rare for them in the playoffs, until they meet one another.
Having said that, doesn't these hypothetical match-ups just seem like treats from the Football Gods?
RRSP vs John Tyler
Cedar Hill vs Allen
The Woodlands vs Skyline
SLC vs Lufkin
Katy vs Desoto
Euless Trinity vs North Shore
Abilene vs FB Hightower
If for nothing, they would be unique as hell!
kalanj
10-11-2009, 10:34 AM
Probably because they beat Longveiw and Longview beat Allen and the fact that LP is playing some good football right now.
LPack007
10-11-2009, 01:08 PM
You can almost make that arguement for JT, but why would you rank Lufkin ahead of Allen?
My thoughts are exactly what kalanj just said. Our only lost is to a very good JT team on the road.
Probably because they beat Longveiw and Longview beat Allen and the fact that LP is playing some good football right now.
Yea...Using common opponents will work sometimes, but not when Allen was playing at Lobo Field and Longview was playing in Lufkin.
My thoughts are exactly what kalanj just said. Our only lost is to a very good JT team on the road.
I'm somewhat miffed by the result against 0-6 Mesquite. I dont believe Lufkin is a top 10 team right now, just my opinion though.
LPack007
10-11-2009, 06:06 PM
Yea...Using common opponents will work sometimes, but not when Allen was playing at Lobo Field and Longview was playing in Lufkin.
I'm somewhat miffed by the result against 0-6 Mesquite. I dont believe Lufkin is a top 10 team right now, just my opinion though.
So are you saying that Lufkin can't beat the lobos in Lv? it's not like the last two games up there were blowouts or something..
Also we beat Mesquite without Quinn Trimble and a sick QB and that is all that matters.., but like you said I guess that's your opinion.:D
So are you saying that Lufkin can't beat the lobos in Lv? it's not like the last two games up there were blowouts or something..
No, what I am saying is, if Longview plays that game in Allen, I dont think they win and if Lufkin plays that game in Longview, I dont think they win.
Also we beat Mesquite without Quinn Trimble and a sick QB and that is all that matters.., but like you said I guess that's your opinion.:D
No injuries excuses or sick players...we've had them and infact our back up QB played against Mesquite because our starter was out, guess what?.. sick...But, we beat the stuffing out of the Skeeters.
^^^:)
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