UT #1 yet again!

[biki1121]

Saw this on another football site and just had to share!!!!


http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/students/glgbn/OutSource_Prospective.htm

[LUFPAN]

Now we know where all the gay cowboys go to school.

[jtk1519]

Ironic when you consider how much harder aggy blows. :eek:

[biki1121]

Now I know why you UT guys always use that "p-envy" quip. I wondered why Austin and San Francisco had the highest theater returns for Brokeback Mountain.

[yankee]

Saw this on another football site and just had to share!!!!


http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/students/glgbn/OutSource_Prospective.htm
this explains a lot...

[garlandowl08]

I think this speaks for itself...

[slorch]

damn, quit giving them more ammo.

Steers and queers... and a pothead icon.

and we all thought Ricky took that picture in the wedding dress as a GAG!!!

what more could you ask for in an education?


I am still laughing!!!

[wide-e-wide]

woo-hoo.....even our homos are the best in the nation!

[slorch]

woo-hoo.....even our homos are the best in the nation!
I'm a little disappointed in your response. You were supposed to deny that they were the REAL Longhorns and only wore the T-shirts when they were looking for their husbands.

[stevefoxsc]

Now I know why you UT guys always use that "p-envy" quip. I wondered why Austin and San Francisco had the highest theater returns for Brokeback Mountain.


Actually you idiot New york and los angelas had the most ticket sales practically tripple the sales in austin, and to insult ut with such a pety insult such as we have more homo's, know what else ut has, better football team basketball team, higher graduation rate, job placement rate, and academically are much more succesful than A&M go do your own research and you'll see. So when it comes down to it you can call us w/e you want but do you really feel better when you wake up in the morning knowing that your big brawny "man school" got beat by a "homo school" in practically everything oh here's another fun fact this is what a certain % of people would choose when it comes to schools in texas: UT 37% Tarleton 4% baylor 2% A&M 16% Other 26% UNT3% TSU 6% Texas Tech 6% in majority of other states student's usually selected colleges within the state having other with the lowest % but shockingly in heavily populated texas a&m got beat by other :eek: i wounder why? Never the less your just fitting the profile of a sterotypical aggy so anything you say to any UT fan isn't exactly somthing were gona lose sleep over.

[jtk1519]

Oh, aggy. Why do you come back for more abuse time and time again? You leave yourself more wide open than Jenna Jameson's legs. :eek:

Does anybody else find it somewhat ironic that aggy would try and pick on Texas because of its diversity. Let us examine aggy. This is a school that was for many, many years, and all male school and if left up to a good number of their living alumni, still would be. This is a school that shuns beautiful young women on the sidelines of their football games in favor of toy soldiers in disturbing tight white uniforms. They then proceed to imitate the aforementioned toy soldiers in what can only be described as gay acts. And lest we forget, the infamous j*** jar.

Now, does anybody else find it laughably ironic that a school with such an overwhelmingly homoerotic foundation would be so full of militant homophobes? Perhaps the blatant intolerance and extreme homophobia exhibited by the sheep lovers is nothing more than a well crafted facade used to hide their own deep, dark secret that lies buried in a closet somewhere. ;)

[stevefoxsc]

Oh, aggy. Why do you come back for more abuse time and time again? You leave yourself more wide open than Jenna Jameson's legs. :eek:

Does anybody else find it somewhat ironic that aggy would try and pick on Texas because of its diversity. Let us examine aggy. This is a school that was for many, many years, and all male school and if left up to a good number of their living alumni, still would be. This is a school that shuns beautiful young women on the sidelines of their football games in favor of toy soldiers in disturbing tight white uniforms. They then proceed to imitate the aforementioned toy soldiers in what can only be described as gay acts. And lest we forget, the infamous j*** jar.

Now, does anybody else find it laughably ironic that a school with such an overwhelmingly homoerotic foundation would be so full of militant homophobes? Perhaps the blatant intolerance and extreme homophobia exhibited by the sheep lovers is nothing more than a well crafted facade used to hide their own deep, dark secret that lies buried in a closet somewhere. ;)

Doesnt shock me, wouldn't shock me if they still wanted to keep it an all male school either.

[jtk1519]

Perhaps aggy would do well to examine themselves before throwing their petty stones...

Rainbow Graduate Student Association
http://dsa-stuorg.tamu.edu/rgsa/sm_Truck.jpg

http://dsa-stuorg.tamu.edu/rgsa/default.html

Bryan/College Station Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG)

http://www.ipt.com/pflag/

It appears as though somebody is at least trying to drag aggy at least into the 20th century, but aggy is going kicking and screaming...

SOMETIMES COLLEGE administrations go to extraordinary lengths to embarrass themselves. Take the case of Texas A&M University, a formerly all male military academy not widely known for its progressive views. On August 16 elated gay and lesbian rights groups applauded a revision in school policy that included language prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation. The revised policy added sexual orientation to what A&M president Ray Bowen referred to as the "laundry list" of prohibited grounds for discrimination. The prohibition against discrimination was qualified with the phrase "in accordance with applicable federal and state law."

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3860/is_200011/ai_n8911580

And all that just so it can be deemed illegal to discriminate against somebody based on their sexual orientation. How sad.

COLLEGE STATION - An administrator from North Carolina State University is heading to Texas A&M University to help the school diversify.

Gates has said turning A&M into a university that more closely mirrors Texas' population is among his main goals.

Last year, A&M's student body was 86-percent white, 8-percent Hispanic, 3-percent black and 3-percent Asian. By comparison, the state's population is 52-percent white, 32-percent Hispanic, 12-percent black and 4-percent Asian.

http://www.dailytexanonline.com/media/paper410/news/2003/08/14/University/County.Officials.Gather.To.Work.Through.Budget-492602.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.dailytexanonline.com

Just further proof that aTm doesn't truly represent the state of Texas, but rather an out-dated and troubling view of what they believe Texas to be.

And I found this very sad...

http://allies.tamu.edu/

What does it say of a supposed modern institution of higher learning in the 21st century when the university has to set up "safe havens" for its own students just because they are "different" and do not fit into the antiquated mold of what is supposed to be and "Aggie"? What kind of ***-backwards campus are they running down there?

I'm not gay and I do believe homosexuality to be a sin, but how unbelievably sad is it when a gay kid has to go to a "safe haven" while in college. aggy prides themselves on their traditions and school spirit, but I guess all that only applies to the kids that fit the mold. The rest of the kids are just left out and ostracized because they are “different“. What a sad, and embarrassing commentary that is.

[garlandowl08]

Perhaps aggy would do well to examine themselves before throwing their petty stones...

Rainbow Graduate Student Association
http://dsa-stuorg.tamu.edu/rgsa/sm_Truck.jpg

http://dsa-stuorg.tamu.edu/rgsa/default.html

Bryan/College Station Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG)

http://www.ipt.com/pflag/

It appears as though somebody is at least trying to drag aggy at least into the 20th century, but aggy is going kicking and screaming...



http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3860/is_200011/ai_n8911580

And all that just so it can be deemed illegal to discriminate against somebody based on their sexual orientation. How sad.




http://www.dailytexanonline.com/media/paper410/news/2003/08/14/University/County.Officials.Gather.To.Work.Through.Budget-492602.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.dailytexanonline.com

Just further proof that aTm doesn't truly represent the state of Texas, but rather an out-dated and troubling view of what they believe Texas to be.

And I found this very sad...

http://allies.tamu.edu/

What does it say of a supposed modern institution of higher learning in the 21st century when the university has to set up "safe havens" for its own students just because they are "different" and do not fit into the antiquated mold of what is supposed to be and "Aggie"? What kind of ***-backwards campus are they running down there?

I'm not gay and I do believe homosexuality to be a sin, but how unbelievably sad is it when a gay kid has to go to a "safe haven" while in college. aggy prides themselves on their traditions and school spirit, but I guess all that only applies to the kids that fit the mold. The rest of the kids are just left out and ostracized because they are “different“. What a sad, and embarrassing commentary that is.


For being so "open to diversity", you sure are defending yourself fiercely...:p

[jtk1519]

For being so "open to diversity", you sure are defending yourself fiercely...:p

I'm intolerant of intolerance.

[biglee2007]

how does it feel to get beat every year by a bunch of ****? damn that must suck :(

[wide-e-wide]

how does it feel to get beat every year by a bunch of ****? damn that must suck :(

bwahhahahahahahaha!!

Which is worse....?
Homosexuality...................or Beastiality?

hmmmmmmmmmm?

Baaaaaaa means no aggy.

[CyFallsMom]

I'm not shocked - Austin (and UT) are quite liberal and artsy. There were quite a few "closet" cases at Jester back in the 70's too...bet they aren't in closets any longer. I knew I was in trouble when I was on a date with a rather handsome guy and we went to the bookstore after dinner (so sue me, I love to read!) and I lost track of him and found him in the gay sex section. I recovered about a week later when I found a new, improved, heterosexual and younger (by a few months anyway) guy!! Gotta love Austin!!!

[mtbray]

I personally think M&A has us on this one. I for one, don't like how open UT is to all this kinda thing. I don't by any means go out of my way to bash GLBT people/groups when they're parading around campus, I personally just do not agree with them and continue walking along to class.

If it were up to me, the government as a whole would stop recognizing marriage and only recognize people as having a "significant other."

That way, if a man and woman wanted to get a marriage (which is a spiritual contract, mind you) they have to go to the church to get it. Letting homosexuals get married shouldn't be the government's problem, it should be the church's.

[mtbray]

I'm not shocked - Austin (and UT) are quite liberal and artsy. There were quite a few "closet" cases at Jester back in the 70's too...bet they aren't in closets any longer. I knew I was in trouble when I was on a date with a rather handsome guy and we went to the bookstore after dinner (so sue me, I love to read!) and I lost track of him and found him in the gay sex section. I recovered about a week later when I found a new, improved, heterosexual and younger (by a few months anyway) guy!! Gotta love Austin!!!


Yeah, they are definitely out of the closet! Last year I lived in Jester West and remember one homosexual having a conversation on the phone with a friend of his. He was relating to his friend what had happened the night before with a guy he was seeing. This was a very explicit call, so I'll save you the details. It was pretty damned disgusting though.

[Texasfrog]

Saw this on another football site and just had to share!!!!


http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/students/glgbn/OutSource_Prospective.htm

#1 National Football Champs ...:D damnnnnnn !!!:eek:

[stevefoxsc]

i personally thinks it's good austin has such open diversity it's good to know people can come here and not have to worry about beeing harrassed and tourmented by some stupid idiot who think's his opinion should be the law (cough cough george bush) and that they can be them self's i have nothing againsn't gay's i dislike our nothern neighbors canada more than a homo but w/e tmo

[lonny23]

I personally think M&A has us on this one. I for one, don't like how open UT is to all this kinda thing. I don't by any means go out of my way to bash GLBT people/groups when they're parading around campus, I personally just do not agree with them and continue walking along to class.

If it were up to me, the government as a whole would stop recognizing marriage and only recognize people as having a "significant other."

That way, if a man and woman wanted to get a marriage (which is a spiritual contract, mind you) they have to go to the church to get it. Letting homosexuals get married shouldn't be the government's problem, it should be the church's.
I think A&M has Texas on that one, too. They should get blasted for the stuff they do in College Station, but UT fans have to come to grips that the school they support stands for values that they don't support. That's why I'm not an Austin or UT guy. I don't think anybody should be discriminated against with physical violence because they're different. I'm not as lenient when it comes to rights that we give to alternative lifestyles. I don't support the religious establishment honoring gay marriages. I'm also against the monetary benefits that gay couples receive when that stuff started to encourage families to grow and make this a prosperous country. In it's most basic form, homosexuality and lesbianism is all about making oneself happier, without the greater good for mankind. If everybody turned gay, we'd stop having a country in a few decades.

[jtk1519]

but UT fans have to come to grips that the school they support stands for values that they don't support.

Are you trying to say all 50,000+ students have the same values? The University of Texas is one of the most diverse universities in the world and as such there are values, beliefs and moral standards that represent the entire spectrum of society. The University isn't any one thing or one idea... it's everything and every idea.

The University of Texas is a great melting pot. Where a conservative white Baptist kid from Southlake and a Buddhist Chinese kid from rural Mongolia can share the same class and in turn share with each other their beliefs and values with out being ostracized by an ignorant mob for being "different." If that is a bad thing, then so be it, but I'll just be bad.

[dragonfootballfan]

but UT fans have to come to grips that the school they support stands for values that they don't support.
I guess you cannot stand excellence and tolerance.

[slorch]

Are you trying to say all 50,000+ students have the same values? The University of Texas is one of the most diverse universities in the world and as such there are values, beliefs and moral standards that represent the entire spectrum of society. The University isn't any one thing or one idea... it's everything and every idea.

The University of Texas is a great melting pot. Where a conservative white Baptist kid from Southlake and a Buddhist Chinese kid from rural Mongolia can share the same class and in turn share with each other their beliefs and values with out being ostracized by an ignorant mob for being "different." If that is a bad thing, then so be it, but I'll just be bad.

Just so you know... Mongolians aren't Chinese just as someone from Saskatchewan isn't American. Don't let facts get inthe way of good conversation though.

Hate the sin, not the sinner

[lonny23]

Are you trying to say all 50,000+ students have the same values? The University of Texas is one of the most diverse universities in the world and as such there are values, beliefs and moral standards that represent the entire spectrum of society. The University isn't any one thing or one idea... it's everything and every idea.

The University of Texas is a great melting pot. Where a conservative white Baptist kid from Southlake and a Buddhist Chinese kid from rural Mongolia can share the same class and in turn share with each other their beliefs and values with out being ostracized by an ignorant mob for being "different." If that is a bad thing, then so be it, but I'll just be bad.
No, I'm not saying everybody has the same values and I'm not saying they all have to have the same values. I do think the university should have a core set of values that they stand by. It's one thing to allow diversity, but I think UT goes too far to encourage more diversity by honoring it. A good example of what I'm talking about was when both Reverend Schuller's were on Larry King a few days ago. They said they don't keep gays out of their church, but don't marry them either. They know they're in the congregation, but they're not going to say what they're doing is right. They'll say that lifestyle is wrong, but not say it in a way in which they shame people by openly saying stuff to them like they'll go to hell for living like that.

[lonny23]

Just so you know... Mongolians aren't Chinese just as someone from Saskatchewan isn't American. Don't let facts get inthe way of good conversation though.

Hate the sin, not the sinner
The Mongolians are the forefathers of the Koreans and Krygyzs I saw in Kyrgyzstan. They do look a little different than the Chinese.

[dragonfootballfan]

No, I'm not saying everybody has the same values and I'm not saying they all have to have the same values. I do think the university should have a core set of values that they stand by. It's one thing to allow diversity, but I think UT goes too far to encourage more diversity by honoring it. A good example of what I'm talking about was when both Reverend Schuller's were on Larry King a few days ago. They said they don't keep gays out of their church, but don't marry them either. They know they're in the congregation, but they're not going to say what they're doing is right. They'll say that lifestyle is wrong, but not say it in a way in which they shame people by openly saying stuff to them like they'll go to hell for living like that.
this is why there are different places for different people. Since you do not like people that are different from you, there are other universitys for you. You do not have to support a diverse university. There are plenty of private religious colleges that have similiar feelings that you do. I feel, like most americans, that people should be treated equally and not be ostrocized by society for what they believe in. If you do not like that, just support a different institution.

[lonny23]

this is why there are different places for different people. Since you do not like people that are different from you, there are other universitys for you. You do not have to support a diverse university. There are plenty of private religious colleges that have similiar feelings that you do. I feel, like most americans, that people should be treated equally and not be ostrocized by society for what they believe in. If you do not like that, just support a different institution.
Like I said earlier, I do believe in the equal status to a certain point. Alternative lifestyles deserve a lot of the same rights as everybody else. I just don't think they deserve all the same rights. Yes, I support different institutions and they probably have a few skeletons, too. I'm all for the alternative lifestyle people being treated in a fair manner, but I'm not all for some of the benefits.

[slorch]

this is why there are different places for different people. Since you do not like people that are different from you, there are other universitys for you. You do not have to support a diverse university. There are plenty of private religious colleges that have similiar feelings that you do. I feel, like most americans, that people should be treated equally and not be ostrocized by society for what they believe in. If you do not like that, just support a different institution.

I wouldn't want my values to poison the stew in Austin anyway. I will gladly keep them elsewhere.

Why are the "tolerant" not?

[mtbray]

this is why there are different places for different people. Since you do not like people that are different from you, there are other universitys for you. You do not have to support a diverse university. There are plenty of private religious colleges that have similiar feelings that you do. I feel, like most americans, that people should be treated equally and not be ostrocized by society for what they believe in. If you do not like that, just support a different institution.

That's easy to say, but if one wants to be successful and stay in state, UT-Austin is the way to go. I know other schools offer different things, such as M&A has a meteorology program as UT does not, but most generally, UT is the premier academic institution in Texas.

Austin is obviously very liberal, but the student body is pretty diverse. I wouldn't say liberals are a majority here. I knew many kids in the dorm from last year who were all fairly conservative. If you go to west campus, many, many, of those who reside there are also conservatives, especially those associated with the traditional Greek system.

It's not really that liberals are the majority, they just seem to voice their opinion more than conservatives do, in my humble opinion.

[dragonfootballfan]

That's easy to say, but if one wants to be successful and stay in state, UT-Austin is the way to go. I know other schools offer different things, such as M&A has a meteorology program as UT does not, but most generally, UT is the premier academic institution in Texas.

Austin is obviously very liberal, but the student body is pretty diverse. I wouldn't say liberals are a majority here. I knew many kids in the dorm from last year who were all fairly conservative. If you go to west campus, many, many, of those who reside there are also conservatives, especially those associated with the traditional Greek system.

It's not really that liberals are the majority, they just seem to voice their opinion more than conservatives do, in my humble opinion.
I understand that and that is what makes the University such a great place. There are all sorts of different people. There are all kinds of groups that a person can get involved in. If you cannot stand being in a diverse environment (like the John Rockers of the world) then the University of Texas is not for you and there are plenty of places in Texas that you can go to instead.

[biki1121]

Hehehehehe,

Found a little chink in the armor I think.

Sheesh, were do I start. NO Steve, it was Austin media itself that said Brokeback Mountain had it highest per capita viewing anywhere outside of San Francisco. Total views of the movie per box office stats has LA metro as the highest overall gross ticket, not SF or NY.

And who gave that awfully accurate description that was posted. By that I mean the tight, white uniforms and etc... Kind of weirded me out someone paid that much attention to a male cheerleader. But in hindsight, no pun intended, I guess they are kind of tight.

But let's move on to the real stuff happening here. Ladies and Gentlemen, lighten up a little. You call me "aggy" and make revelations. You claim not to be judged by the actions of an open liberal policy at UT yet you judge me by the antics of less than 3% of a student population (Corp people). Doesn't really bother me, just find it ironic that UT fans don't see their own hypocracy.

I personally enjoyed my 4 years in Austin. I have so many good friends in that town and I visit regulary even today. Austin is a city with deep divisions. It can be seen anywhere you look including city council, county adminstration, and even the University itself. It makes Austin a very difficulty town to manuever politically. All in all, you find your group of like-minded people and life goes on but man I do miss eating breakfast at Juan in a Million!

And finally, I have to pick on some of you when I get the chance. I mean honestly, you get to make "dead dog" jokes and similar references and you expect me not to be able to give some back????

Hope each of you have a great night!

[wide-e-wide]

Hehehehehe,

Found a little chink in the armor I think.


Chalk up another moral victory for aggy...
That brings them to what.....2,343,987 - 0 ???
That's pretty impressive.

Is it meat judging season yet?

[lonny23]

I understand that and that is what makes the University such a great place. There are all sorts of different people. There are all kinds of groups that a person can get involved in. If you cannot stand being in a diverse environment (like the John Rockers of the world) then the University of Texas is not for you and there are plenty of places in Texas that you can go to instead.
The John Rocker comment must come with a disclaimer. He talked about racial groups, which is unfair because people can't help but be that way. They deserve full equal treatment as U.S. citizens. The lifestyle stuff is a choice. There's a difference between racial and lifestyle stuff in spite of the lifestyle people trying to piggyback onto the racial stuff. I'm all about promoting racial diversity, but as a Christian, I'm not in favor of celebrating lifestyle diversity. People can do it if they want to, but I'm not going to say it's a good thing, that it's right or OK or that I like it.

Since I'm in the Air Force, somebody might ask about, "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." It's a flawed policy, because DoD is saying that a certain lifestyle is punishable under the UCMJ, but they're not going to ask if you do something illegal. If they can ask about drugs, getting tossed in jail, and other things, they should still ask about being gay. Like always, I say either make everybody follow the rules, change the rules, or do away with the rules.

[bowiedawgs01]

They'll say that lifestyle is wrong, but not say it in a way in which they shame people by openly saying stuff to them like they'll go to hell for living like that.

Why not? Is it not the job of the elders to tend to the flock? If homosexuality, and anything else for that matter, is a sin, why would those people be a member of the congregation? You do not allow sinners into the congregation. Visiting is different. But if a sinner places membership, they must repent of that sin in order to join God's number. I mean seriously, what's with all this "go along to get along" stuff? Don't want to hurt people's feelings? Jesus wielded a sword. He wasn't always lovey-dovey. He'd tell a person what they needed to hear, not pat them on the back when they were in sin.

I wouldn't want my values to poison the stew in Austin anyway. I will gladly keep them elsewhere.

Jesus ate with sinners. If we, as christians, separate ourselves from the world around us, how can we be examples? How can we teach others the Gospel? That's no way to look at things.

As for the article, I don't care. I just finished 4.5 years at UT and the McCombs business school. In my time there, I saw ONE flaming homo in the business school. That school is the most conservative one on campus. Mostly Republican, and that's one bright spot in getting a degree in business. The one flamer I saw was a teaching assistant in a math class. So I don't even know if he was in the business school.

I saw a few more in my time as I was walking campus. But it's nothing like people think it is. I don't walk to class and pass by a bunch of flaming **** with their gay pride banners unfurled every day. Aggy seems to hate homosexuality so much. Do they treat drinkers the same way? Smokers? Drug users? Fornicators? I doubt it. Most of them, like any campus, are partakers in those sins.

One sin is not worse than another. Don't be hypocritical.

[wide-e-wide]

Excellent post bowie...

I gotta hit you with the wide seal of approval.

Tight-ness...

[biki1121]

One sin is not worse than another. Don't be hypocritical.

So again, I saw a few guys on campus wearing their uniforms, marching in formation, etc.... Does that make me Corp??? Because I saw them?? If I followed a similar logic then UT students that participated in any Hex Rally must be a follower of a satanic cult. Just doesn't make sense does it. Heck I just saw them, I venture to say some of the former students of UT in here actually participated in a hex rally. Man, they must be sitting at the right hand side of Lucifer. Sound silly?? Well that is the logic that many use on this forum.

For the record:

I have never judged meat.
I have never been a corp cadet.
I have never been intimate with any form of an animal.
I don't believe in gay marriage.
I don't beleive in abortion.
I am neither democrat nor republican. I think both parties should be banned.
I vote during elections including those not involving presidential elections.
I believe strongly in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
I am not without sin. I do ask for forgiveness.
I don't believe in tolerance. I think it is the primary problem with today's society.
I am prejudice. I don't like druggie, alcoholics, abusers of children and women, and people who don't pay their taxes.
I think NAFTA and other foreign trade policy is killing this country and we need a stronger american manufacturing base to continue the infrastructure of this great country.
And finally, I believe in my family first with only God coming before. Blood is thicker... His blood was the thickest...

So am I just another stupid Aggie or am I the family man that lives in a town near you?

So lighten up and say "Stupid Aggie" and get over it.

[bowiedawgs01]

I don't see why you quoted me. Nothing you said has anything to do with my post. Good job, "family guy."

[wide-e-wide]

So again, I saw a few guys on campus wearing their uniforms, marching in formation, etc.... Does that make me Corp??? Because I saw them?? If I followed a similar logic then UT students that participated in any Hex Rally must be a follower of a satanic cult. Just doesn't make sense does it. Heck I just saw them, I venture to say some of the former students of UT in here actually participated in a hex rally. Man, they must be sitting at the right hand side of Lucifer. Sound silly?? Well that is the logic that many use on this forum.

For the record:

I have never judged meat.
I have never been a corp cadet.
I have never been intimate with any form of an animal.
I don't believe in gay marriage.
I don't beleive in abortion.
I am neither democrat nor republican. I think both parties should be banned.
I vote during elections including those not involving presidential elections.
I believe strongly in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
I am not without sin. I do ask for forgiveness.
I don't believe in tolerance. I think it is the primary problem with today's society.
I am prejudice. I don't like druggie, alcoholics, abusers of children and women, and people who don't pay their taxes.
I think NAFTA and other foreign trade policy is killing this country and we need a stronger american manufacturing base to continue the infrastructure of this great country.
And finally, I believe in my family first with only God coming before. Blood is thicker... His blood was the thickest...

So am I just another stupid Aggie or am I the family man that lives in a town near you?

So lighten up and say "Stupid Aggie" and get over it.

You can be all of those things...and still be a stupid aggy...
BTW...No need to put the word stupid in front of aggy...it's kind of redundant.
aggy is not a person,place, or thing...aggy is a state of mind...it is a lifestyle choice...it is what it is......a quest to become even bigger dumbasses than the generation of agroids that went before you.
I have absolutely nothing against Aggies...but I think aggy is damn stupid and damn funny

If you call yourself an Aggie...then surely you know the difference.

[AZTiger]

finally an out.....

Just say you're Aggie and wide will leave you alone

[dragonfootballfan]

notice how he never said anything about dog funerals.

just kidding. That is fine ribbing, but when the best Aggy can come back with is sexuality smack, which is controversial, it is pretty sad.

[lonny23]

Why not? Is it not the job of the elders to tend to the flock? If homosexuality, and anything else for that matter, is a sin, why would those people be a member of the congregation? You do not allow sinners into the congregation. Visiting is different. But if a sinner places membership, they must repent of that sin in order to join God's number. I mean seriously, what's with all this "go along to get along" stuff? Don't want to hurt people's feelings? Jesus wielded a sword. He wasn't always lovey-dovey. He'd tell a person what they needed to hear, not pat them on the back when they were in sin.



Jesus ate with sinners. If we, as christians, separate ourselves from the world around us, how can we be examples? How can we teach others the Gospel? That's no way to look at things.

As for the article, I don't care. I just finished 4.5 years at UT and the McCombs business school. In my time there, I saw ONE flaming homo in the business school. That school is the most conservative one on campus. Mostly Republican, and that's one bright spot in getting a degree in business. The one flamer I saw was a teaching assistant in a math class. So I don't even know if he was in the business school.

I saw a few more in my time as I was walking campus. But it's nothing like people think it is. I don't walk to class and pass by a bunch of flaming **** with their gay pride banners unfurled every day. Aggy seems to hate homosexuality so much. Do they treat drinkers the same way? Smokers? Drug users? Fornicators? I doubt it. Most of them, like any campus, are partakers in those sins.

One sin is not worse than another. Don't be hypocritical.
I pretty much agree with what you said. I did not mention that they should be members of the church, because that act does require adhering or claiming to adhere to God's principles. I was just saying you can't constantly beat them over the head about their sin. You do have to call it sin as it is.

Christians have to place themself in the company of unrepentent sinners (all of us sin) to reach them. We don't have to smooth over their actions, but it's perfectly fine to be an acquaintance and still let others know where we stand.

The stuff you mentioned that happens on campus is also sin, but most people just call it the "college experience."

[jtk1519]

I do think the university should have a core set of values that they stand by.

The only core values a university should have in my opinion is to strive for excellence in everything they do and to do so in an environment that is open and welcoming to all. Everything else will naturally fall into place. This is where I believe aggy fails and where a lot of my frustration with them lies.

BTW, I whole-heartedly agree with slorch when he said "Hate the sin, not the sinner." That is the very essence of Christianity and IO think the heart of Jesus' message. Remember, Jesus hung out with hookers. Why then is it so hard or disturbing for us to take a class with a gay kid?

[lonny23]

The only core values a university should have in my opinion is to strive for excellence in everything they do and to do so in an environment that is open and welcoming to all. Everything else will naturally fall into place. This is where I believe aggy fails and where a lot of my frustration with them lies.

BTW, I whole-heartedly agree with slorch when he said "Hate the sin, not the sinner." That is the very essence of Christianity and IO think the heart of Jesus' message. Remember, Jesus hung out with hookers. Why then is it so hard or disturbing for us to take a class with a gay kid?
The hard part is not taking a class with a gay kid, although some people do feel that way. The hard part is when people sanction that behavior as a good thing.

[biglee2007]

You can be all of those things...and still be a stupid aggy...
BTW...No need to put the word stupid in front of aggy...it's kind of redundant.
aggy is not a person,place, or thing...aggy is a state of mind...it is a lifestyle choice...it is what it is......a quest to become even bigger dumbasses than the generation of agroids that went before you.
I have absolutely nothing against Aggies...but I think aggy is damn stupid and damn funny

If you call yourself an Aggie...then surely you know the difference.
wide ure f'n hilarious lmao

[bowiedawgs01]

but most people just call it the "college experience."

I still don't see how that's an excuse. Why treat one sinner worse than another?

[farmerfan]

I dont know if we will ever get the honest answer out of this question, but if A&M was given the same kind of rating the texas alumni, fans and what not would be all over it to. I learned to stay away from this type of topic a long time ago, so I will not voice my opinion on it, but I have seen the way Texas fans love to attack aggy, if this ranking was given to A&M all these hollier than thou Texas fans would be all over them making fun of them, to those who deny that I would have a hard time believing but that is just me.

[farmerfan]

Perhaps aggy would do well to examine themselves before throwing their petty stones...

Rainbow Graduate Student Association
http://dsa-stuorg.tamu.edu/rgsa/sm_Truck.jpg

http://dsa-stuorg.tamu.edu/rgsa/default.html

Bryan/College Station Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG)

http://www.ipt.com/pflag/

It appears as though somebody is at least trying to drag aggy at least into the 20th century, but aggy is going kicking and screaming...



http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3860/is_200011/ai_n8911580

And all that just so it can be deemed illegal to discriminate against somebody based on their sexual orientation. How sad.




http://www.dailytexanonline.com/media/paper410/news/2003/08/14/University/County.Officials.Gather.To.Work.Through.Budget-492602.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.dailytexanonline.com

Just further proof that aTm doesn't truly represent the state of Texas, but rather an out-dated and troubling view of what they believe Texas to be.

And I found this very sad...

http://allies.tamu.edu/

What does it say of a supposed modern institution of higher learning in the 21st century when the university has to set up "safe havens" for its own students just because they are "different" and do not fit into the antiquated mold of what is supposed to be and "Aggie"? What kind of ***-backwards campus are they running down there?

I'm not gay and I do believe homosexuality to be a sin, but how unbelievably sad is it when a gay kid has to go to a "safe haven" while in college. aggy prides themselves on their traditions and school spirit, but I guess all that only applies to the kids that fit the mold. The rest of the kids are just left out and ostracized because they are “different“. What a sad, and embarrassing commentary that is.

as troubling as those stats are, I wonder what hte percentatge of blacks, hispanics and other cultures are applying to A&M. You can only go so far to blame it on racism and elitism. If you look at the type of school A&M is then you can understand why so many "minorities" might not apply there, but at the same time to label them as possioble racist is exactly becoming what you accuse A&M of, without facts you have nothing to base your arguments on. I say that because you give the listing of people who apply to school there but no the total of blacks or hispanics or other minorities maing up our population.

[farmerfan]

I have a question for Texas fans only. If you are aggy then please dont answere or give your thoughts. I know about the incident of Cole Smith at Taco Cabana in College Station. However, for all yo uTexas fans that are so quick to claim Cole's actions as that of Texas A&M, what would you say about a guy who was a senior in HS and a 6'4 255 RB(got recruited to play TE in college) got kicked out of his last regular season game because when he got leveled by a 5'9 175lb black kid, he got up and got in his face and called him a f'ing n***er? To me this is just as bad as what you saw Cole Smith do at A&M right?

[HUM398]

as much is it pains me to say this...UT was really stupid in not trying to recruit Jerrod Johnson of Humble,tx...He very much like vince young, and would fit in perfectly in there scheme. He is 6'6 227 lbs. his 40 is 4.5. he also has a very strong arm and is very accurate. he is not as fast as Vince but moves awhole lot like him. almost a mirror image. although vice is alittle faster on his feet and has alittle better field awarness, the kid has a better arm, well eventually. He is going to A&M. and if A&M can surrond the kid with some talent..Look for UT to have trouble stoping this kid...i would say he is the next vince young...But a vince young type. he is really good.

[farmerfan]

as much is it pains me to say this...UT was really stupid in not trying to recruit Jerrod Johnson of Humble,tx...He very much like vince young, and would fit in perfectly in there scheme. He is 6'6 227 lbs. his 40 is 4.5. he also has a very strong arm and is very accurate. he is not as fast as Vince but moves awhole lot like him. almost a mirror image. although vice is alittle faster on his feet and has alittle better field awarness, the kid has a better arm, well eventually. He is going to A&M. and if A&M can surrond the kid with some talent..Look for UT to have trouble stoping this kid...i would say he is the next vince young...But a vince young type. he is really good.


When was the last time A&M had a QB who produced anything? It's one of those things where History always ends up repeating itself.

[HUM398]

You know...A&M was smart for a change...Its true A&M doesnt have the history of getting good QB's. But jerrod johnson is somthing really special...dont be suprised if he ends up taking this team to a National championship. im not an aggie fan but i am a J. Johnson fan.

[wide-e-wide]

You know...A&M was smart for a change...Its true A&M doesnt have the history of getting good QB's. But jerrod johnson is somthing really special...dont be suprised if he ends up taking this team to a National championship. im not an aggie fan but i am a J. Johnson fan.


Take the above quote......leave it just as it is.......and substitute the name Reggie McNeal for Jerrod Johnson..................and suddenly it's 2002 all over again.

[dragonfootballfan]

Johnson was not even close to being the number one quarterback on Fran's cream pie smeared board. He was actually going to play receiver or tight end, but since Fran could not convince any other quarterbacks to come this guy is the quarterback. Now all of sudden he is Vince Young.

[wide-e-wide]

Johnson was not even close to being the number one quarterback on Fran's cream pie smeared board. He was actually going to play receiver or tight end, but since Fran could not convince any other quarterbacks to come this guy is the quarterback. Now all of sudden he is Vince Young.


Is Fran gonna keep his pockets full and give him plenty of money?

[jtk1519]

Johnson... the next Vince Young?!?! How in the world can you make such a comparison? Other than the fact that the two are big, what else is there to compare them on? It sure can't be speed since Johnson ran a 4.86 40 at the 2004 All Greater Houston Combine.

Vince was rated the #1 QB in the nation by pretty much everybody coming out of high school. Johnson doesn't even have a position. Scout has him listed as a 4 star TE (10th best at that position) and Rivals just has him listed as an athlete (31st best at that position). Some sources project him as a WR, but few think he will play QB. Jamie McCoy from Midland Lee who signed with aggy a year ago put up better numbers than Johnson and will play QB long before Johnson ever will... and McCoy will probably never play QB.

Vince in his senior year of high school completed 60% of his passes for over 2500 yards and 35 TDs to just 4 INTs while rushing for over 1200 yards and 24 TDs. That's closing in on 4000 yards of total offense and almost 60 TDs. Johnson on the other hand completed less than 45% of his passes for 1100 yards and 6 TDs to 7 INTs while rushing for just over 600 yards and 11 TDs.

So, they are both tall, black and from the Houston area. Outside of that, I see no basis for comparison at all.

Forgive my harsh tone here, but to call somebody the next Vince Young takes ignorance to a whole new level. Call him the next Reggie McNeal or Michael Vick, but no kid should be compared to Vince Young. First, it's not fair to that kid. Second, it's just plain dumb. There is no "next Vince Young".

[TheTwelffMan]

Yall give Radio too much credit. Hes no Matt Lionhart thats for sure. What did Vince do to deserve all this praise? He still can't throw the ball hard enough to bust a grape. I'll take that Magee boy anyday over Radio pure and simple. Magee got more heart and a better arm.

[jtk1519]

Yall give Radio too much credit. Hes no Matt Lionhart thats for sure. What did Vince do to deserve all this praise? He still can't throw the ball hard enough to bust a grape. I'll take that Magee boy anyday over Radio pure and simple. Magee got more heart and a better arm.

I hate you.

[TheTwelffMan]

Stop sayin you hate me you loudmouth sip. I bring all of my Ag buddies over there and we will show you the meaning of hate brother. I got me about 6 years worth a hate built up and they aint a damn woman in sight. Maybe we could work something out huh sip?

[HUM398]

Johnson... the next Vince Young?!?! How in the world can you make such a comparison? Other than the fact that the two are big, what else is there to compare them on? It sure can't be speed since Johnson ran a 4.86 40 at the 2004 All Greater Houston Combine.

Vince was rated the #1 QB in the nation by pretty much everybody coming out of high school. Johnson doesn't even have a position. Scout has him listed as a 4 star TE (10th best at that position) and Rivals just has him listed as an athlete (31st best at that position). Some sources project him as a WR, but few think he will play QB. Jamie McCoy from Midland Lee who signed with aggy a year ago put up better numbers than Johnson and will play QB long before Johnson ever will... and McCoy will probably never play QB.

Vince in his senior year of high school completed 60% of his passes for over 2500 yards and 35 TDs to just 4 INTs while rushing for over 1200 yards and 24 TDs. That's closing in on 4000 yards of total offense and almost 60 TDs. Johnson on the other hand completed less than 45% of his passes for 1100 yards and 6 TDs to 7 INTs while rushing for just over 600 yards and 11 TDs.

So, they are both tall, black and from the Houston area. Outside of that, I see no basis for comparison at all.

Forgive my harsh tone here, but to call somebody the next Vince Young takes ignorance to a whole new level. Call him the next Reggie McNeal or Michael Vick, but no kid should be compared to Vince Young. First, it's not fair to that kid. Second, it's just plain dumb. There is no "next Vince Young".


If you read my post correctly you would have seen that i said a vince young type. In no way did i mean to imply that he was the next vince young. Vince young is a once in alife time player..But to underestimate this kid is pure stupidty..i know J. Johnson very well...yes he ran the 4.8 at in 2004. This year he clocked at between a 4.5 and 4.6...oh and he was listed as Wr and TE because that was the postion he played in HS during 2004. He only started at qb 2 during that season. This was the first year that he started as qb...and did very well. over 1000 yards passing and 613 yds rushing... yes we all know Vince young put up bigger numbers...but that is the postion he played in HS. Jerrod is a ture athelte. and to say the coach didnt have anyone else and thats the reason why he put him in is very ignorant statement...they dont want jerrod to play any other postion.

and excuse me for my tone. i dont think its a fair assessment to say that reggie and jerrod have anything in common. Jerrod is jerrod...Vince is In-vince-able. and reggie is blah. Jerrod will be a far better QB then reggie...and he will play...and he will succed..and you will be sticking your foot in your mouth.

[dragonfootballfan]

and excuse me for my tone. i dont think its a fair assessment to say that reggie and jerrod have anything in common. Jerrod is jerrod...Vince is In-vince-able. and reggie is blah. Jerrod will be a far better QB then reggie...and he will play...and he will succed..and you will be sticking your foot in your mouth.
you do know that Reggie was probably the best quarterback that Aggy has ever had right?

[wide-e-wide]

and he will play...and he will succed..and you will be sticking your foot in your mouth.

See earlier post about aggy saying this back in 2002...same rules apply for this statement as well. They are becoming well known for idle threats...
Well.....that and dead dog funerals.....and keeping the pockets of new recruits full........and Little Debbies.......and moral victories....and milkmen.....and listeaters.......and putting the boards on the wrong side of the windows...and little dog scoreboards....and poop flinging...and meat judging...and baaa means no....and ******* lawsuits................did I forget anything?

Damn......aggy is known for saying and doing a lot of stupid sh.t aren't they?

[wide-e-wide]

you do know that Reggie was probably the best quarterback that Aggy has ever had right?


And just so everybody knows....I'm not doggin' Reggie...
I'm talking about how aggy was on top of the world when he first got there...bragging...saying he was gonna take over the world...
Then Fran wasted one of the best QB's in the nation..........and aggy........being their usual aggy self........totally abandoned Reggie.

[dragonfootballfan]

And just so everybody knows....I'm not doggin' Reggie...
I'm talking about how aggy was on top of the world when he first got there...bragging...saying he was gonna take over the world...
Then Fran wasted one of the best QB's in the nation..........and aggy........being their usual aggy self........totally abandoned Reggie.
It was terrible what happened to him this year. He is the poster child for why football players should not go there for any other reason than getting the free education. The supposed 12th man turned on him when things went bad because some genious decided to turn him into an option quarterback. They offer a decent education and nothing else besides keeping your pockets fill of money.

[TheTwelffMan]

That's over the line sip. The assuption that athaletes at A&M are payed is just wrong. I demand an apology or I will ask that you be banned for spreading untrue garbage about a established and honored university.

[wide-e-wide]

It was terrible what happened to him this year. He is the poster child for why football players should not go there for any other reason than getting the free education. The supposed 12th man turned on him when things went bad because some genious decided to turn him into an option quarterback. They offer a decent education and nothing else besides keeping your pockets fill of money.


You are exactly right DFF....aggy must think we all have bad memories...because I remember them going waaaaaaaaaaaaay overboard when Reggie signed to play there....I remember it because it made me very nervous...in fact I told all of my family in Lufkin that I didn't like it from day one...
I had no idea it would turn out this bad though...I underestimated the absolute suckdom that is aggy...I shall never do that again.

[dragonfootballfan]

That's over the line sip. The assuption that athaletes at A&M are payed is just wrong. I demand an apology or I will ask that you be banned for spreading untrue garbage about a established and honored university.
I am sorry that one of your recruits said that his pockets are full of money.

[jtk1519]

That's over the line sip. The assuption that athaletes at A&M are payed is just wrong. I demand an apology or I will ask that you be banned for spreading untrue garbage about a established and honored university.

I hate you.

[TheTwelffMan]

I am sorry that one of your recruits said that his pockets are full of money.


He ment from working you idoit. Not from the school giving it to him.
And jtk I hate you too you orange *******. Stop following me if you hate me punk. I hate all you ********!

[DirtyHarry01]

Uh, twelve, and I'm assuming that's what you mean, are you saying your athletes are not payed, as in spayed? I thought it should be "paid." I guess the aTm dictionary is slightly different. For example, it's "idiot" not "idoit", you moorn (moron), unless, that was your way of saying "i do it." And, resorting to swearing...Now, now, I'm sure you would phrase it better if you consulted your aTm dictionary. Instead of the B-word, how about "seed of unmarried parents." I have to stop, this is too funny.......

[HUM398]

[QUOTE=wide-e-wide]See earlier post about aggy saying this back in 2002...same rules apply for this statement as well. They are becoming well known for idle threats...
Well.....that and dead dog funerals.....and keeping the pockets of new recruits full........and Little Debbies.......and moral victories....and milkmen.....and listeaters.......and putting the boards on the wrong side of the windows...and little dog scoreboards....and poop flinging...and meat judging...and baaa means no....and ******* lawsuits................did I forget anything?

Damn......aggy is known for saying and doing a lot of stupid sh.t aren't they?[/QUOT

im not an aggie...he is a player that i have watch grow, and im telling you that he is better the reggie...look i love UT and Vince young, and im telling you to watch for this kid. We all know that there will never be a vince young again. But this kid is a Vince young type...not a little young...or a twin...just similar...they both posses a remarkable athletic ablity and will power. Reggie will be out done by Johnson. and i leave it there...just watch this kid. ill let him do the talking.

[SVite]

You are exactly right DFF....aggy must think we all have bad memories...because I remember them going waaaaaaaaaaaaay overboard when Reggie signed to play there....I remember it because it made me very nervous...in fact I told all of my family in Lufkin that I didn't like it from day one...
I had no idea it would turn out this bad though...I underestimated the absolute suckdom that is aggy...I shall never do that again.

Just wait till 2006 ,aggy will take the B-12 and the nationals,and if not,they`ll be back and win the B-12 in 2007,and win the Nationals,and ....if they dont win it,then......they`ll be back in the o8 season,to win that national trophy,they got that kid in cali. thats a super soph (hs),he`s already sportin the Maroon,then they might go to the run and duck offense!