View Full Version : 3rd down?? Im confused!
BlakeJ
10-06-2009, 09:52 AM
"Some in Dallas are speculating that Tony Romo (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=5209) forgot it was fourth down when he threw an incomplete pass at receiver Sam Hurd (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=10194) leaving one second on the clock.
The situation was fourth-and-goal: Romo had already thrown Hurd's way once on third down. yet he throws Hurd's way again. It's broken up by Champ Bailey (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1758), which clinches the game for the Broncos. Game over, right?
Romo didn't think so. On video caught by KDFW Fox-4, he seems to tell his offensive line to get back in their stances for another play.
"He then flashes three fingers to one of the game officials," the Star-Telegram (http://startelegramsports.typepad.com/cowboys/2009/10/romo-didnt-know-it-was-fourth-down-maybe-thats-why-threw-it-to-hurd-again.html) points out. "After hearing the response, Romo screams and walks off field."
Did Romo forget about the spike on second down to stop the clock? We may know tomorrow, when he could address the media. Stay tuned."
Wow...REALLY???
zippy
10-06-2009, 10:14 AM
I have seen this situation several times before. Only one other time in the NFL, but several in college/high school. Even the ref's and chain crews have been off by a down before. I have also seen a team get 5 downs. The spike on 1st was not caught. What is bad is that the 4th down play (acually the 5th down) scored the game winning TD. Talk about a coach being ticked off, I am surprised they didnt kick him off the field. The real sad thing is I am sure the opposing coach knew the true down, yet didnt say anything. So, with that being said, I am not surprised he forgot. Even at that level, they are still human, and we are known for making mistakes from time to time. Still funny stuff.
Favpack
10-06-2009, 10:39 AM
Lol. He thought it was 3rd down. I bet he never screws up on the golf course. Dude epitomizes an airhead.
Point Made...
10-06-2009, 10:40 AM
Ayyyyyyyyeeee dios mio. :(
Favpack
10-06-2009, 10:41 AM
Love this comment: " I thought it was 3rd down too but, but I had 6 Sam Adams' in me.."
zippy
10-06-2009, 10:45 AM
Lol. He thought it was 3rd down. I bet he never screws up on the golf course. Dude epitomizes an airhead.
Now I understand why he choose Simpson. Or it could have been the legs, who knows.
E-Vol-ution
10-06-2009, 10:58 AM
I bet five on the later.........:notworthyNow I understand why he choose Simpson. Or it could have been the legs, who knows.
SLC93
10-06-2009, 11:27 AM
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/sports/nfl/cowboys/Was_Tony_Romo_Lost_During_Las#
This is another example of the failure of Garrett and his offensive staff. It is Romo's job to know the down. It is the staff's job to be absolutely certain he knows everything. Period.
GoOwls
10-06-2009, 11:56 AM
Knowledge of the down or not....the real travesty is the offensive call from the bench. It was a situation where Romo was told a specific play....he ran the specific play so there would be time if the pass was imcomplete to run 4th down.....whether Romo was aware or not, Garrett was aware and he make the play call......two attempts in a row to the Dallas #4 receiver against one of the top corners in the league in a must make situation.....:eek:
Where was Martellus......he wasn't even on the field.
Where was Witten, arguably the "go-to" guy in that situation.....he was in the backfield blocking.....:eek:
Why didn't they put in a fullback to block and allow Witten to be in the pattern? Why wasn't Martellus in the field so the fade to a 6'6" guy was an option?
There are much bigger problems than Romo in this situation...the coaching KNEW the down, distance, time, personel, and opponents personel, yet they went to a #4 guy twice in a must situation.....:ninja:
While I agree that Romo had a rough game, the coaching is a graver problem and maybe why Romo is having so many problems.
SLC93
10-06-2009, 12:08 PM
Knowledge of the down or not....the real travesty is the offensive call from the bench. It was a situation where Romo was told a specific play....he ran the specific play so there would be time if the pass was imcomplete to run 4th down.....whether Romo was aware or not, Garrett was aware and he make the play call......two attempts in a row to the Dallas #4 receiver against one of the top corners in the league in a must make situation.....:eek:
Where was Martellus......he wasn't even on the field.
Where was Witten, arguably the "go-to" guy in that situation.....he was in the backfield blocking.....:eek:
Why didn't they put in a fullback to block and allow Witten to be in the pattern? Why wasn't Martellus in the field so the fade to a 6'6" guy was an option?
There are much bigger problems than Romo in this situation...the coaching KNEW the down, distance, time, personel, and opponents personel, yet they went to a #4 guy twice in a must situation.....:ninja:
While I agree that Romo had a rough game, the coaching is a graver problem and maybe why Romo is having so many problems.
:notworthy:notworthy
69matador
10-06-2009, 12:53 PM
Lol. He thought it was 3rd down. I bet he never screws up on the golf course. Dude epitomizes an airhead.
On the Dennis Miller show yesterday Frank Caliendo and Dennis were talking about Romo and how he seems to have that deer in the headlights look this year and then Caliendo did his Charles Barkley imitation talking about Romo and said just play the game knucklehead.....ROFLMAO
Matthew 2000 Eagle
10-06-2009, 01:36 PM
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On the Dennis Miller show yesterday Frank Caliendo and Dennis were talking about Romo and how he seems to have that deer in the headlights look this year and then Caliendo did his Charles Barkley imitation talking about Romo and said just play the game knucklehead.....ROFLMAO
Caliendo and Dennis are right about Romo having that dear in the headlights look. Dude looks like a rookie in the preseason.
Matthew 2000 Eagle
10-06-2009, 01:39 PM
Knowledge of the down or not....the real travesty is the offensive call from the bench. It was a situation where Romo was told a specific play....he ran the specific play so there would be time if the pass was imcomplete to run 4th down.....whether Romo was aware or not, Garrett was aware and he make the play call......two attempts in a row to the Dallas #4 receiver against one of the top corners in the league in a must make situation.....:eek:
Where was Martellus......he wasn't even on the field.
Where was Witten, arguably the "go-to" guy in that situation.....he was in the backfield blocking.....:eek:
Why didn't they put in a fullback to block and allow Witten to be in the pattern? Why wasn't Martellus in the field so the fade to a 6'6" guy was an option?
There are much bigger problems than Romo in this situation...the coaching KNEW the down, distance, time, personel, and opponents personel, yet they went to a #4 guy twice in a must situation.....:ninja:
While I agree that Romo had a rough game, the coaching is a graver problem and maybe why Romo is having so many problems.
This could very well be what's happening! Hell, if we don't agree with the playcalling as fans, then I'm pretty damn sure that Tony doesn't agree with it as a player.
GoOwls
10-06-2009, 02:08 PM
What was it about Tony that had us calling him a Jedi two years ago.....his playmaking. When you have a playmaker at QB, you have to accept the good with the bad. Yes, there will be interceptions and fumbles at the wrong times, but the rewards were greatness.
Tony has been hammered by the press and the coaches that he has to be something he is not.....Troy Aikman...essentially....a caretaker.
Tony is a gunslinger and he has been declawed, in my opinion, to where he is so conscious of not making mistakes, he is making mistakes and not making plays because he isn't throwing the passes he wants to throw.
Those two misses on deep passes late, one overthrow one led wrong, were because he is over-conscious of making mistakes...there is no flow in his motion.....the coaches are ruining him.
BTW, for the Romo naysayers, Staubach was a riverboat gambler of a QB also....he threw downfield into double coverage, he ran, he scrambled, he was great, too.....people forget what a gunslinger Staubach was too.
I know that people compare him to Favre, but since the word go, he has reminded me more of Staubach than anyone else...style wise.
33Blood
10-06-2009, 03:05 PM
They shouldn't have clocked the ball to begin with. That should be saved only for when you want a field goal attempt. There is no reason not to have an automatic hot play for those situations where the Qb throws an out that either gains yards or sails it out of bounds to stop the clock. It wouldn't take anymore time than it does for everyone to get set and spike it.
GoOwls
10-06-2009, 03:10 PM
They shouldn't have clocked the ball to begin with. That should be saved only for when you want a field goal attempt. There is no reason not to have an automatic hot play for those situations where the Qb throws an out that either gains yards or sails it out of bounds to stop the clock. It wouldn't take anymore time than it does for everyone to get set and spike it.
True, but he did what they told him to do....speaker in his helmet, you know.
BlakeJ
10-06-2009, 03:11 PM
Knowledge of the down or not....the real travesty is the offensive call from the bench. It was a situation where Romo was told a specific play....he ran the specific play so there would be time if the pass was imcomplete to run 4th down.....whether Romo was aware or not, Garrett was aware and he make the play call......two attempts in a row to the Dallas #4 receiver against one of the top corners in the league in a must make situation.....:eek:
Where was Martellus......he wasn't even on the field.
Where was Witten, arguably the "go-to" guy in that situation.....he was in the backfield blocking.....:eek:
Why didn't they put in a fullback to block and allow Witten to be in the pattern? Why wasn't Martellus in the field so the fade to a 6'6" guy was an option?
There are much bigger problems than Romo in this situation...the coaching KNEW the down, distance, time, personel, and opponents personel, yet they went to a #4 guy twice in a must situation.....:ninja:
While I agree that Romo had a rough game, the coaching is a graver problem and maybe why Romo is having so many problems.
COACHING COACHING COACHING....I agree. I like Romo and think he has tons of potential. Colin Cowherd and Dilfer were talking about him the other day and said his biggest downfall is being under Wade and failure in consistant structure. They suggested that if Tony and Big Ben switched cities...in 2 years we would be looking at Romo like we do Ben "Elite Super Bowl winning QB", and vice versa for Ben. Romo lacks structure...he is a undisciplined player (Just like Ben) in a poorly structured environment. Funny thing is that Colin called Ben and Romo "Backwards hat high school kids". That made me laugh. Think of it this way.....
Take two prisoners who are being released on parole...same crime...identical personalities and problems. Put one of them in a halfway house with rules and throw the other right back to the streets unsupervised...with structure the same criminal (halfway house) is going to be more likely to succeed. Romo lacks discipline and has no surrounding structure to help him overcome that.
Point Made...
10-06-2009, 03:17 PM
I bet five on the later.........:notworthy
latter...;)
GoOwls
10-06-2009, 03:24 PM
latter...;)
Well played....Point Made...;)
(poet and didn't know it) :D
15Adragon
10-06-2009, 10:19 PM
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/sports/nfl/cowboys/Was_Tony_Romo_Lost_During_Las#
This is another example of the failure of Garrett and his offensive staff. It is Romo's job to know the down. It is the staff's job to be absolutely certain he knows everything. Period.
This is not good.
This is not good.
Nope....At least we're one step closer to Shanahan.
Slim-Rob
10-07-2009, 01:15 AM
http://media2.myfoxdfw.com//photo/2009/10/06/tony3fingers_20091006095402_640_480.JPG
I like Romo. But he needs to get his sh*t together.
GoOwls
10-07-2009, 06:52 AM
What was it about Tony that had us calling him a Jedi two years ago.....his playmaking. When you have a playmaker at QB, you have to accept the good with the bad. Yes, there will be interceptions and fumbles at the wrong times, but the rewards were greatness.
Tony has been hammered by the press and the coaches that he has to be something he is not.....Troy Aikman...essentially....a caretaker.
Tony is a gunslinger and he has been declawed, in my opinion, to where he is so conscious of not making mistakes, he is making mistakes and not making plays because he isn't throwing the passes he wants to throw.
Those two misses on deep passes late, one overthrow one led wrong, were because he is over-conscious of making mistakes...there is no flow in his motion.....the coaches are ruining him.
BTW, for the Romo naysayers, Staubach was a riverboat gambler of a QB also....he threw downfield into double coverage, he ran, he scrambled, he was great, too.....people forget what a gunslinger Staubach was too.
I know that people compare him to Favre, but since the word go, he has reminded me more of Staubach than anyone else...style wise.
I still say that this is a coaching problem and Tony is suffering from it.
BlakeJ
10-07-2009, 07:55 AM
I still say that this is a coaching problem and Tony is suffering from it.
Yes sir.
Matthew 2000 Eagle
10-07-2009, 09:27 AM
I still say that this is a coaching problem and Tony is suffering from it.
Yep! He should be showing much better improvement, instead of regressing. As I said before, Tony looks like a confused rookie in his first preseason game.
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