Houston @ UTEP [Archive] - 5A Texas Football Forum

su4c

10-03-2009, 09:40 PM

Sloppy game... players slipping and sliding everywhere due to off and on rainshowers. Cougar offense not clicking air or ground... Houston defense not playing strong.

:Censor:

Knotted at 17 at the half... Miners will get the ball to start 3rd.

F18mustang

10-03-2009, 09:41 PM

su4c

10-03-2009, 10:09 PM

UTEP marches down the field and scores on opening drive of the second half.

24-17 Miners.

su4c

10-03-2009, 10:28 PM

After a Houston FG.... UTEP with a 74 yard TD pass.

I had a feeling this would be a letdown game... Coogs need to wake UP.

30-20 Miners.. XP no good.

Firebird

10-03-2009, 10:30 PM

How much time left?

su4c

10-03-2009, 10:33 PM

~5 minutes in the 3rd.

Houston starts on their own 49 and still can't move the ball. Punt down to the Miner 16.

pied

10-03-2009, 10:34 PM

No tv, right? Just gamecast/box scores?

su4c

10-03-2009, 10:35 PM

There's a link to watch the UTEP broadcast on channelsurfing.net

Firebird

10-03-2009, 10:37 PM

What's been UH's problem tonight? Any one thing stick out?

F18mustang

10-03-2009, 10:37 PM

What's been UH's problem tonight? Any one thing stick out?

Run defense. UTEP's RB just broke a 30 yard run. He has 160-smthn yards on the night.

F18mustang

10-03-2009, 10:38 PM

There's a link to watch the UTEP broadcast on channelsurfing.net

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-utep.html

su4c

10-03-2009, 10:39 PM

What's been UH's problem tonight? Any one thing stick out?

Poor run defense, with an honorable mention to the Houston run game. UTEP's Donald Buckram has 174 yards on the night so far. Houston's run game can't come through when the air game isn't clicking. Just overall poor performance all around.

UTEP driving at the Houston 28.

pied

10-03-2009, 10:40 PM

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-utep.html

Super. Thanks

F18mustang

10-03-2009, 10:41 PM

UTEP, to beat UH you just have to KICK THE FIELD GOAL.

su4c

10-03-2009, 10:41 PM

Or score the TD.

:Censor:

F18mustang

10-03-2009, 10:42 PM

Or score the TD.

:Censor:

That too. Damnit Potts....

su4c

10-03-2009, 10:45 PM

Houston goes into the 4th down 37-20.

su4c

10-03-2009, 10:50 PM

Cougar TD... Keenum to Cleveland, 18 yards. 37-27 Miners... 13:33 in the 4th.

CCDawgs

10-03-2009, 10:59 PM

Its good to see Ex-Bulldawg Donald Buckram finally get healthy. As you can see what he can do cause the Miners have found a go to back they have been looking for. Come on Miners!

su4c

10-03-2009, 11:00 PM

TD Miners... Another one for Buckram..

su4c

10-03-2009, 11:10 PM

Houston TD on 4th and 1... Lead now 10 by UTEP. 6:17 left.

F18mustang

10-03-2009, 11:12 PM

Buckram is good.

su4c

10-03-2009, 11:14 PM

FFS.... Buckram TD again...

33Blood

10-03-2009, 11:20 PM

Keenum has had another great game. But the defense for Houston can't stop the run or pass. Texas either has the best defense in the world or Houston's is the worst.

su4c

10-03-2009, 11:24 PM

Ball game.

CCDawgs

10-03-2009, 11:25 PM

Not its game for sure :notworthy

CCDawgs

10-03-2009, 11:26 PM

Loos like boise state now :D

Dawg Fan

10-03-2009, 11:27 PM

ROTFLMAO!!!!!:notworthy

pied

10-03-2009, 11:27 PM

58-34

33Blood

10-03-2009, 11:29 PM

Leech should be really embarrassed.

su4c

10-03-2009, 11:31 PM

Leech should be really embarrassed.

Why? Houston is suddenly a terrible team because they slipped up against UTEP?

Firebird

10-03-2009, 11:32 PM

Getting ready for the unwarranted hyperventilation about UH being over rated on this thread.

F18mustang

10-03-2009, 11:34 PM

Leech should be really embarrassed.

Leach is too busy caring all about himself to be embarrassed. :rolleyes:

pied

10-03-2009, 11:34 PM

random quote from last week.

9 yards rushing
44 yards passing

53 yards 51 plays

http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2009-2010/ut4.html

33Blood

10-03-2009, 11:34 PM

Why? Houston is suddenly a terrible team because they slipped up against UTEP?

Slipped up? They didn't have a turnover, kick return or fluke play that cost them the game. Their defense is just getting driven time and again. They have over 600 yards of offense but have given up just about as much. That isn't slipping that is falling off a cliff.

CCDawgs

10-03-2009, 11:36 PM

su4c

10-03-2009, 11:37 PM

Slipped up? They didn't have a turnover, kick return or fluke play that cost them the game. Their defense is just getting driven time and again. They have over 600 yards of offense but have given up just about as much. That isn't slipping that is falling off a cliff.

What I'm saying is that this game doesn't define this Houston team... you can tell that from seeing the previous 3 games. They weren't themselves tonight, they're better than this... but that's not an excuse. You play give up 262 yards rushing to one player, you deserve to lose.

Dawg Fan

10-03-2009, 11:38 PM

What I'm saying is that this game doesn't define this Houston team... you can tell that from seeing the previous 3 games. They weren't themselves tonight, they're better than this... but that's not an excuse. You play give up 262 yards rushing to one player, you deserve to lose.

could say the same about Tech last week.

su4c

10-03-2009, 11:45 PM

could say the same about Tech last week.

You could. I'd say Tech had more of a coaching issue than performance issue, but it's all a matter of opinion.

I'm sure people will come out now and say that UH beating two BXII teams was a fluke, rather than letting them keep the credit they were given prior to tonight's game.

BDB

10-03-2009, 11:49 PM

could say the same about Tech last week.

after losses to texas and houston and watching them struggle against new mexico up till the 4th, today, i wouldn't say that.

33Blood

10-04-2009, 12:11 AM

I'm sure people will come out now and say that UH beating two BXII teams was a fluke, rather than letting them keep the credit they were given prior to tonight's game.

I'm not saying Houston beating anyone was a fluke. I just think Leech should lose his Offensive Genius Hat now that Mike Price could score from everywhere on a team that Leech couldn't get in the endzone from the 1 or 4 yard lines.

F18mustang

10-04-2009, 12:16 AM

I'm not saying Houston beating anyone was a fluke. I just think Leech should lose his Offensive Genius Hat now that Mike Price could score from everywhere on a team that Leech couldn't get in the endzone from the 1 or 4 yard lines.

http://www.msnheaven.com/content/emoticons/54/banana060.gif

BDB

10-04-2009, 12:17 AM

http://www.msnheaven.com/content/emoticons/54/banana060.gif

fail!

F18mustang

10-04-2009, 12:17 AM

fail!

Ugh its supposed to be sad banana.

su4c

10-04-2009, 12:43 AM

In actuality this loss doesn't hurt a lot... Houston's "year" is supposed to be next year, when the young defense matures. All that has happened thus far was a surprise, particularly because of how well the defense performed until tonight. Now whether tonight was the defense's true colors, or just a bad game, remains to be seen... but everyone knew this season would hinge on how well the defense turned out to be. Coogs were supposed to drop a game or two this year (granted it wasn't supposed to be this one), so now that the BCS dreams are shattered, they can focus on winning the conference. Moral victory rant over.

I am holding out hope that they'll stay in the rankings at 25th but I think UH's national attention will be short-lived, just like so many times before.

lonny23

10-04-2009, 01:00 AM

What's been UH's problem tonight? Any one thing stick out?
I'll tell you what their problem was. It's called being gutless pukes. It's called reading your press clippings.

This game had all the markings of a trap game. UTEP was coming off of a beating and they play well in home night games. I wondered if Houston was going to relax for Tech after OSU, but they were really ripe for a letdown this week. Mike Price even said on the radio after the game that Houston was ripe to get beat tonight.

I got to see the UTEP fans rush the field and honk like crazy and chant after the game and that was cool, along with the fireworks.

Tonight's game is the exact reason I didn't want Houston to win last week. I didn't trust they wouldn't blow a game along the way.

lonny23

10-04-2009, 01:02 AM

Leech should be really embarrassed.
Believe me, I wasn't happy with what I saw in Lubbock today, either!:mad:

F18mustang

10-04-2009, 01:03 AM

Believe me, I wasn't happy with what I saw in Lubbock today, either!:mad:

Damnit Lonny, why don't you ever tell me when you're going to home games.....?

lonny23

10-04-2009, 01:13 AM

Damnit Lonny, why don't you ever tell me when you're going to home games.....?
K-State
Kansas
Oklahoma

lonny23

10-04-2009, 01:17 AM

I tried responding to a few so I'll say it here.

This game does define Houston. They choke games away and blow games. They've done it for years. I GET TIRED OF SEEING MY TEAMS LOLLYGAG GAMES AWAY!:mad:

I'm 100% driven 100% of the time and the fact that 95% of the people in the world slack off is what's going to make me stop going to sports events pretty soon when I finish attending all the events I've always wanted to go to. I'm wasting my money on people who don't care enough to try hard enough. UTEP has talent, but they won because Houston didn't come ready to play.

wesaxman34

10-04-2009, 01:26 AM

K-State
Kansas
Oklahoma

No A&M this year?

lonny23

10-04-2009, 01:32 AM

No A&M this year?
HS 20th reunion that day.

I'll be at the Nebraska game, probably not Baylor, and the OSU game is a maybe depending upon what time they play, what time Arkysaw plays that day, and if I feel like spending the money!

wesaxman34

10-04-2009, 01:47 AM

HS 20th reunion that day.

I'll be at the Nebraska game, probably not Baylor, and the OSU game is a maybe depending upon what time they play, what time Arkysaw plays that day, and if I feel like spending the money!

I waited last minute to buy my Baylor ticket and ended up spending 5x more than I would have if I got a student ticket before they sold out. :mad:

I'm excited, though. Will you be flying to Lincoln?

dada

10-05-2009, 08:17 AM

wow...UH goes from 12th...to OUT of the top 25

Firebird

10-05-2009, 08:32 AM

Based on the transitive properties of football scores so en vogue on this site, UTEP is 18 pts better than TTU and 27 pts better than Oklahoma State. Who knew?

NeverIsNow

10-05-2009, 08:34 AM

That transitive property has never held in football games haha...

Sad to hear that Houston is out of the rankings. I wanted them to be a BCS Buster.

su4c

10-05-2009, 10:22 AM

They are first or second in the "others receiving votes" if I remember right... maybe after a couple hectic weeks of college football they can creep back in the bottom of the rankings.

dada

10-05-2009, 10:28 AM

They are first or second in the "others receiving votes" if I remember right... maybe after a couple hectic weeks of college football they can creep back in the bottom of the rankings.

But fall ALL the way out?...that's crazy IMO.

su4c

10-05-2009, 10:31 AM

But fall ALL the way out?...that's crazy IMO.

Yeah... conspiracy theories aside... Boise State or TCU wouldn't have fallen completely out were they in Houston's position.

Firebird

10-05-2009, 10:32 AM

But fall ALL the way out?...that's crazy IMO.

C-USA teams can't afford to have a bad loss, and this most definitely was one. I think that Houston is far better than they showed, and probably at the end of the year will be among the top 25 teams. But you can't lose by 3 scores to a team with a losing that Texas absolutely hammered the week before and expect to stay in. That walloping from Texas had to be in pollsters minds when they cast their votes. Houston hadn't done enough yet to give them the benefit of the doubt in the pollsters eyes.

Firebird

10-05-2009, 10:33 AM

Yeah... conspiracy theories aside... Boise State or TCU wouldn't have fallen completely out were they in Houston's position.

Like I said-- Boise and TCU are teams that have some recent history behind them. Pretty much every college fan knows that these are two seriously good programs that can jump up and beat even the very best in the nation, year in and year out. This is really Houston's first year to make a national splash, and so they didn't get the benefit of the doubt that those two teams would have.

tayb

10-05-2009, 10:38 AM

su4c

10-05-2009, 10:40 AM

Like I said-- Boise and TCU are teams that have some recent history behind them. Pretty much every college fan knows that these are two seriously good programs that can jump up and beat even the very best in the nation, year in and year out. This is really Houston's first year to make a national splash, and so they didn't get the benefit of the doubt that those two teams would have.

Yeah I can see why the voters would favor those two for what they've already accomplished. But after the Oklahoma State and Tech games I figured Houston would've been given a little more credit, for this year's team at least.

su4c

10-05-2009, 10:41 AM

I just can't figure out how this happened. UTEP looked like one of the worst teams in the nation last weekend against Texas. UTEP had 53 total yards of offense and zero offensive points and then they come out and rack up almost 600 yards against Houston? The same Houston that beat OSU and Tech?? I really wish I could have watched this game because when I got a text that said "Houston lost to UTEP" I immediately called BS and had to look it up for myself to believe it.

Losing to UTEP? Justified in dropping out of the rankings in my opinion.

So if Texas goes to Stillwater and loses, can I use your transitive logic to justify that Texas should drop out of the rankings?

tayb

10-05-2009, 10:43 AM

So if Texas goes to Stillwater and loses, can I use your transitive logic to justify that Texas should drop out of the rankings?

Texas plays UTEP in Stillwater?

dada

10-05-2009, 10:46 AM

take away the names...if team "A" is good enough to be ranked 12th in the country...after losing a road game....do they drop out of the top 25 all together?

ThEgReAtOnE

10-05-2009, 10:49 AM

But fall ALL the way out?...that's crazy IMO.

4 weeks ago..

Utep put up 372 yds of offense and 17 pts vs Buffalo, of whom they lost to.

2 days ago..

Utep put up 581 yds of offense and 58 pts vs Houston, of whom they beat.

I'm assuming that's why they're not in the Top 25. With who UH has beaten... they should've allowed UTEP no more than a miniscule 100-150 yds of offense and 10 trashtime-pts.

Firebird

10-05-2009, 10:50 AM

Texas plays UTEP in Stillwater?

No, the logic would go that:

Houston beat OSU in Stillwater but itsn't a top 25 team because of the UTEP loss

So if Texas goes to Stillwater and can't win, then that says that they aren't a top 25 team.

However, in reality we should figure it out like this, should UT lose to OSU:

UT:

Margin of victory over UTEP
-Margin of loss vs. OSU

as compared to:

UH:

Margin of victory over OSU
- Margin of loss to UTEP

To determine the point spread in a fictional UT/UH game.

Transitional properties of football scores apply in all cases and everywhere.

pied

10-05-2009, 10:52 AM

Question, If Texas played Houston in Houston, would take the Cougars and 21 points?

slcdragonfan

10-05-2009, 10:58 AM

I just can't figure out how this happened. UTEP looked like one of the worst teams in the nation last weekend against Texas. UTEP had 53 total yards of offense and zero offensive points and then they come out and rack up almost 600 yards against Houston? The same Houston that beat OSU and Tech?? I really wish I could have watched this game because when I got a text that said "Houston lost to UTEP" I immediately called BS and had to look it up for myself to believe it.

Losing to UTEP? Justified in dropping out of the rankings in my opinion.

+1
I happen to like UH too, did some schooling there and many friends grad from there. But this was entirely atrocious. It is not just that UH lost, but to whom and how they lost. They were earning it, then BAM.

On another note, anyone think OU needs their OC back? ;)

Firebird

10-05-2009, 11:03 AM

Question, If Texas played Houston in Houston, would take the Cougars and 21 points?

I will need to see the score of the UT--OSU game first so I can implement the transitive theory of football scores.

pied

10-05-2009, 11:06 AM

I will need to see the score of the UT--OSU game first so I can implement the transitive theory of football scores.

Looking at your results of the College Football Top Gun, I think you need a better system.

tayb

10-05-2009, 11:07 AM

I will need to see the score of the UT--OSU game first so I can implement the transitive theory of football scores.

You already have the score from the Tech game and the UTEP game.

Firebird

10-05-2009, 11:15 AM

You already have the score from the Tech game and the UTEP game.

If two opponents are good, three are better.:)

I might throw out the Tech score because Lonny tells me neither game is representative of how good Tech really is.:)

E-Vol-ution

10-05-2009, 11:25 AM

UH was sitting pretty and just couldn't stand prosperity.

lonny23

10-05-2009, 12:03 PM

I waited last minute to buy my Baylor ticket and ended up spending 5x more than I would have if I got a student ticket before they sold out. :mad:

I'm excited, though. Will you be flying to Lincoln?
Driving to Lincoln and then taking a week of vacation.

lonny23

10-05-2009, 12:05 PM

wow...UH goes from 12th...to OUT of the top 25
That's why I give ZERO credence to anything the writers or coaches say about college football. It works the same way for moving people up.

lonny23

10-05-2009, 12:09 PM

If two opponents are good, three are better.:)

I might throw out the Tech score because Lonny tells me neither game is representative of how good Tech really is.:)
The way I figure, Tech is who we've seen on offense because Potts is going to make mistakes.

Dawg Fan

10-05-2009, 01:28 PM

Yeah... conspiracy theories aside... Boise State or TCU wouldn't have fallen completely out were they in Houston's position.

if your team would have been USC you would have only fallen a few spots;)