Parody Continues in 26-5A

[Mantis]

Okay, this district is ridiculous thus far this season. Any team minus Lee in this district is capable of an upset over a district opponent with superior talent or coaching.

The best four teams in the district are still Madison, Smithson Valley, Roosevelt and New Braunfels in no particular order but none of these teams except for Roosevelt are still undefeated in district play each having one loss and Roosevelt has yet to face the three other best teams in the district so that won't last long and they will have their hands full tonight with a Reagan team coming off three straight quarterfinal appearances.

Here's a breakdown:

Madison beats a good New Braunfels team in a close game who dominates Smithson Valley the next week then loses to Churchill who gets hammered by Johnson who was demolished by both Madison and Smithson Valley previously but beat MacArthur in an earlier match up who upset Madison in a knuckle biter. Basically MacArthur and Churchill have played spoiler to the big boys while Johnson has thus far been their drum only to turn the tables on the spoilers. Reagan has yet to make waves here but that may start tonight against Roosevelt. Bottomline is this is a nine team district with four quality teams that won't make the playoffs. I'm sure there are plenty of districts in the state where these four teams that will be on the outside looking in would easily role through to a district championship... Namely in Region 1 and elsewhere in Region 4. Sure there are plenty of districts out there with three or four solid teams but 26-5A has EIGHT!!!!!!!! Which creates a heck of a lotta' parody!

[anotherNS]

I believe that you have "parity" in 26-5A. Unless you really are making light of the other teams in the district.

[saMavsFan]

I believe that you have "parity" in 26-5A. Unless you really are making light of the other teams in the district.

Great minds think alike. Besides, this is another thread that just plain belongs in the 265a thread that's already posted.

[Fleeman93]

From what I have seen you have a bunch of just above average teams in 265 but none that are special. Like 6's and 7's out of 10 but no 9's or 10's.

[Mantis]

I believe that you have "parity" in 26-5A. Unless you really are making light of the other teams in the district.

Perhaps PARITY & PARODY... but it should have been Parity.

[S.V. wchr]

From what I have seen you have a bunch of just above average teams in 265 but none that are special. Like 6's and 7's out of 10 but no 9's or 10's.

Sorry we dont have a city within a city like Katy! Katy has...what maybe 4 high schools imagine how many middle schools funnel outstanding football players to one high school. No doubt Katy High School has a great program but it helps when you have a farm system to feed it.

[longhorn3]

From what I have seen you have a bunch of just above average teams in 265 but none that are special. Like 6's and 7's out of 10 but no 9's or 10's.

I respectfully disagree...Roosy and Madison are strong 8's...when play off time comes one of them if not both of them will be deep in the playoffs..i doubt either gets knocked out before the regional final...Madison has a chance for state semi's playing north shore...that would be a fun game to watch...at current status north shore would be a nice favorite..if madison can get better offensively then they will compete..

[The Wet Mustard]

Sorry we dont have a city within a city like Katy! Katy has...what maybe 4 high schools imagine how many middle schools funnel outstanding football players to one high school. No doubt Katy High School has a great program but it helps when you have a farm system to feed it.

7 Highchools, 6 of which play sports. And does it count as a farm system when you live in one house your whole life yet the district get re zoned so often that while you atre in elementary you think you are going to Taylor, get rezoned to Katy before Junior high and end up at Morton Ranch Highschool. Ehh I dont think so

[The Wet Mustard]

I respectfully disagree...Roosy and Madison are strong 8's...when play off time comes one of them if not both of them will be deep in the playoffs..i doubt either gets knocked out before the regional final...Madison has a chance for state semi's playing north shore...that would be a fun game to watch...at current status north shore would be a nice favorite..if madison can get better offensively then they will compete..

Its like saying Katy will Win region 3, we all know its going to happen but it doesnt prove they are good, because they beat noone ;):rolleyes:

[longhorn3]

Its like saying Katy will Win region 3, we all know its going to happen but it doesnt prove they are good, because they beat noone ;):rolleyes:

I agree.. katy will win region 3 but are they not a d-2 school? madison is d-1

[The Wet Mustard]

I agree.. katy will win region 3 but are they not a d-2 school? madison is d-1

Correct, they cant play, well lets put it this way, 2 very bad teams will have to make the playoffs in 17-5a for them to fo D-1.

What I was trying to say is that neither Katy nor anyone from Region 4 will be able to prove themselves in the playoffs until round 5.

Its not region 2 or anything;)

[BandidoNB]

From what I have seen you have a bunch of just above average teams in 265 but none that are special. Like 6's and 7's out of 10 but no 9's or 10's.

Perhaps they are just 6's or 7's, but even at that, the district is eight teams deep that are that good. BTW I saw someone at the NB-Lee game with a Katy Tigers shirt on. Did we have the honor of your presence at that game? :)

[Mantis]

Okay, this district is ridiculous thus far this season. Any team minus Lee in this district is capable of an upset over a district opponent with superior talent or coaching.

The best four teams in the district are still Madison, Smithson Valley, Roosevelt and New Braunfels in no particular order but none of these teams except for Roosevelt are still undefeated in district play each having one loss and Roosevelt has yet to face the three other best teams in the district so that won't last long and they will have their hands full tonight with a Reagan team coming off three straight quarterfinal appearances.

Here's a breakdown:

Madison beats a good New Braunfels team in a close game who dominates Smithson Valley the next week then loses to Churchill who gets hammered by Johnson who was demolished by both Madison and Smithson Valley previously but beat MacArthur in an earlier match up who upset Madison in a knuckle biter. Basically MacArthur and Churchill have played spoiler to the big boys while Johnson has thus far been their drum only to turn the tables on the spoilers. Reagan has yet to make waves here but that may start tonight against Roosevelt. Bottomline is this is a nine team district with four quality teams that won't make the playoffs. I'm sure there are plenty of districts in the state where these four teams that will be on the outside looking in would easily role through to a district championship... Namely in Region 1 and elsewhere in Region 4. Sure there are plenty of districts out there with three or four solid teams but 26-5A has EIGHT!!!!!!!! Which creates a heck of a lotta' parody!

Just as I suspected, Reagan beats Roosevelt, now everyone in 26-5A has at least one loss. I still think Madison will run the table from here on out but the entire 26-5A playoff seeding could get interesting and come down to the last game played in district.

[Mantis]

From what I have seen you have a bunch of just above average teams in 265 but none that are special. Like 6's and 7's out of 10 but no 9's or 10's.

I almost completely agree with you, with the exception of Madison who laid an egg against their traditional neighborhood rival, MacArthur who usually plays them close even when they have no business doing so like last week. I still think Madison is a 9 and if they can get their offense on track they will be showing it. Basically they have to raise their mental game to match their physical abilities. As for the rest, we are talking like seven teams that are 6's and 7's and there are a number of districts, particularly in West, Northwest, Southwest, Coastal Southeast, and South Texas that any of these seven teams would breeze through to a district championship. You won't find another district in the state that can produce that many quality teams in one season. And all do respect to Clark in 28-5A, who will almost certainly go 10-0 in the regular season courtesy of a cream puff schedule, but Clark will likely lose to a 26-5A team in the playoffs and possibly one w/ 2, 3, or even 4 losses in the area (round 2) playoff week.

[svhorns]

I almost completely agree with you, with the exception of Madison who laid an egg against their traditional neighborhood rival, MacArthur who usually plays them close even when they have no business doing so like last week. I still think Madison is a 9 and if they can get their offense on track they will be showing it. Basically they have to raise their mental game to match their physical abilities. As for the rest, we are talking like seven teams that are 6's and 7's and there are a number of districts, particularly in West, Northwest, Southwest, Coastal Southeast, and South Texas that any of these seven teams would breeze through to a district championship. You won't find another district in the state that can produce that many quality teams in one season. And all do respect to Clark in 28-5A, who will almost certainly go 10-0 in the regular season courtesy of a cream puff schedule, but Clark will likely lose to a 26-5A team in the playoffs and possibly one w/ 2, 3, or even 4 losses in the area (round 2) playoff week.

I can't really blame you for thinking Madison is a 9... but you'll notice that teams who compete for state championships have a complete team... meaning the o-line doesn't suck and they have a QB who can lead a team. I don't think Madison is a complete team.

[rudedog60]

I almost completely agree with you, with the exception of Madison who laid an egg against their traditional neighborhood rival, MacArthur who usually plays them close even when they have no business doing so like last week. I still think Madison is a 9 and if they can get their offense on track they will be showing it. Basically they have to raise their mental game to match their physical abilities. As for the rest, we are talking like seven teams that are 6's and 7's and there are a number of districts, particularly in West, Northwest, Southwest, Coastal Southeast, and South Texas that any of these seven teams would breeze through to a district championship. You won't find another district in the state that can produce that many quality teams in one season. And all do respect to Clark in 28-5A, who will almost certainly go 10-0 in the regular season courtesy of a cream puff schedule, but Clark will likely lose to a 26-5A team in the playoffs and possibly one w/ 2, 3, or even 4 losses in the area (round 2) playoff week.

Were you one of the Madison fans last year that made this same predicition about Clark losing to a 26-5A team, and Madison walking all the way to the semi-finals after Judson lost to one of the weakest 28-5A teams? Clark's defense has been one of its weak links this year, but after holding Jay to a total of 50 yards, and only one first down, they are improving every week. 28-5A is their's to lose.

If the 26-5A is such a dominating district, why do they only have one team in the State Top 25 on this board (That's as of today. After Roosevelt's loss last night, they'll be off the board next.)?

[kbarj]

nm

[slcdragonfan]

"parody" :notworthy:notworthy

Don't know if you really meant it or not, and don't want to read the whole thread, but it is pretty funny. No insult here, just enjoying the strategerizing.

[Mantis]

"parody" :notworthy:notworthy

Don't know if you really meant it or not, and don't want to read the whole thread, but it is pretty funny. No insult here, just enjoying the strategerizing.

Parody and Paridy seem to mean the same thing in 26-5A because the balance of power has become laughable.

[Mantis]

Were you one of the Madison fans last year that made this same predicition about Clark losing to a 26-5A team, and Madison walking all the way to the semi-finals after Judson lost to one of the weakest 28-5A teams? Clark's defense has been one of its weak links this year, but after holding Jay to a total of 50 yards, and only one first down, they are improving every week. 28-5A is their's to lose.

If the 26-5A is such a dominating district, why do they only have one team in the State Top 25 on this board (That's as of today. After Roosevelt's loss last night, they'll be off the board next.)?

No, I wasn't surprised that Clark won that game against Madison in the playoffs. The QB had a great game and was pretty impressive playing safety too. They played an excellent game against Jay last week. Finally a complete 4 quarter effort from Clark. We have yet to see that from Madison this season. O'Connor game was close but the 2nd and 3rd stringers in the 2nd half were a disaster with penalties on offense. They had four or five big plays called back which is why they never scored in the 2nd half, so it wasn't so much the merciful let up as it may have appeared.

[Mantis]

Were you one of the Madison fans last year that made this same predicition about Clark losing to a 26-5A team, and Madison walking all the way to the semi-finals after Judson lost to one of the weakest 28-5A teams? Clark's defense has been one of its weak links this year, but after holding Jay to a total of 50 yards, and only one first down, they are improving every week. 28-5A is their's to lose.

If the 26-5A is such a dominating district, why do they only have one team in the State Top 25 on this board (That's as of today. After Roosevelt's loss last night, they'll be off the board next.)?

The answer is they dominate each other, thus the paridy. I'm still thinking Madison will get through and end the season 8-1 (w/ the game against Kerrville Tivy a no contest) so they will be back in the top 25 here and probably the top 10 of the AP Poll by season's end. As for some of the teams in this top 25... they'd get beat every other week in the 26-5A because they feed on average and weak opposition in average districts. So if you go 5-0 on cream puffs you may get in here because you have a good name and you've beaten up on lesser opposition. So, the answer is obvious. Also, the admins are Katy guys that like R3 & R2. A few teams in R1 based on past performance (tradition) get respect and a few teams in R4 get some based on consistant playoff appearances (winning tradition). So every season the Abilene's, Permian's, Smithson Valley's, Madison's, and Converse Judson's will get some consideration until they drop a game. Only R2 & R3 schools can lose 2 plus games and still hang around in this poll because they play each other and are beloved.

[KT2000]

The answer is they dominate each other, thus the paridy. I'm still thinking Madison will get through and end the season 8-1 (w/ the game against Kerrville Tivy a no contest) so they will be back in the top 25 here and probably the top 10 of the AP Poll by season's end. As for some of the teams in this top 25... they'd get beat every other week in the 26-5A because they feed on average and weak opposition in average districts. So if you go 5-0 on cream puffs you may get in here because you have a good name and you've beaten up on lesser opposition. So, the answer is obvious. Also, the admins are Katy guys that like R3 & R2. A few teams in R1 based on past performance (tradition) get respect and a few teams in R4 get some based on consistant playoff appearances (winning tradition). So every season the Abilene's, Permian's, Smithson Valley's, Madison's, and Converse Judson's will get some consideration until they drop a game. Only R2 & R3 schools can lose 2 plus games and still hang around in this poll because they play each other and are beloved.

That's wrong. We just don't think Region 4 is producing any top tier teams this year. The same was true last year. Madison was supposed to be the contender, but they are not playing up to that standard. They aren't doing what the 2007 team did by any means.

Smithson Valley and Judson, by far the two most consistent SA area programs this decade, have already lost this year.

I would not be surprised if the 265 gets shut out of the state semis this year. I'm not saying that will happen, but I would not be surprised if it did.

And the note about Regions 2 and 3 is also wrong. We don't hesitate to drop teams who lose games in other regions. The only reason multi-loss teams stay in the rankings is because they lose to other ranked teams. Euless Trinity from R1 is a good example of that. Both of their losses have been in close games against other top 10 teams.

[Shadowweaver]

That's wrong. We just don't think Region 4 is producing any top tier teams this year. The same was true last year. Madison was supposed to be the contender, but they are not playing up to that standard. They aren't doing what the 2007 team did by any means.

Smithson Valley and Judson, by far the two most consistent SA area programs this decade, have already lost this year.

I would not be surprised if the 265 gets shut out of the state semis this year. I'm not saying that will happen, but I would not be surprised if it did.

And the note about Regions 2 and 3 is also wrong. We don't hesitate to drop teams who lose games in other regions. The only reason multi-loss teams stay in the rankings is because they lose to other ranked teams. Euless Trinity from R1 is a good example of that. Both of their losses have been in close games against other top 10 teams.

I can't help but think of University of Houston beating up on ranked Oklahoma State and Texas Tech only to get creamed by UT-El Paso. I don't necessarily question U of H's talent. I wonder how good Tech and Okie State actually were. Both teams had their high ranking staked out as a result of reputation. It may just be the same around here for teams in certain regions.

[KT2000]

I can't help but think of University of Houston beating up on ranked Oklahoma State and Texas Tech only to get creamed by UT-El Paso. I don't necessarily question U of H's talent. I wonder how good Tech and Okie State actually were. Both teams had their high ranking staked out as a result of reputation. It may just be the same around here for teams in certain regions.

Can you really blame us for not jumping all over the SA teams? The region hasn't produced a state champion since 2002 (and 1995 before that). It's been nearly two decades since someone besides Judson brought back a state title (Roos 95). It's been eight years since someone besides Judson or SV represented the area at state (Taft 2001).

Consistency goes a long way in the high school game. And I've always maintained a big weakness of the top San Antonio area teams is that they don't get outside of their region enough in non-district. Smithson Valley and Reagan have branched out recently. Judson did it in the past.

Regions 3 and 4 don't have nearly as many proven programs as 1 and 2. Region 3 is the most geographically concentrated of the four regions and there's no real incentive for programs to travel. Katy has done the most non-district traveling of any team in R3. North Shore's only started to branch out.

I don't know why the SA area programs don't schedule more against outside opponents. SA is a centrally located, and you'd think those schools could branch out in their scheduling because travel is manageable. I think that would help improve the standard of play.

[SV61]

I think the cream of district 26-5 will start to rise, beginning this week. Does that mean if a team loses this week, they are done? Not Neccesarily. However, teams should NOT be taking steps back, at this stage of the season.

This region (4), is weaker than normal, beCAUSE the 26-5 is not as strong as years past. What have we learned?

Churchill may really, still be a year away.
Same goes for Mac.
Lee has not shown signs of life at all this season, in district play.
Reagan is better than people give them credit for.
Comes down to Madison, NB, Reagan, Roosevelt, and SV.
It is my opinion, that New Braunfels is the dark horse.

For a balanced team in this Region, Clark looks very good.

You can not count out Soutwest, provided they stay healthy.

RRSP goes without saying.

We'll see what is happening, come playoff time.

[KT2000]

Clark would be my pick in the D2 bracket right now. O'Connor's loss to Warren opened the door for Taft, which pushes Clark D2.

[Shadowweaver]

Can you really blame us for not jumping all over the SA teams? The region hasn't produced a state champion since 2002 (and 1995 before that). It's been nearly two decades since someone besides Judson brought back a state title (Roos 95). It's been eight years since someone besides Judson or SV represented the area at state (Taft 2001).

Consistency goes a long way in the high school game. And I've always maintained a big weakness of the top San Antonio area teams is that they don't get outside of their region enough in non-district. Smithson Valley and Reagan have branched out recently. Judson did it in the past.

Regions 3 and 4 don't have nearly as many proven programs as 1 and 2. Region 3 is the most geographically concentrated of the four regions and there's no real incentive for programs to travel. Katy has done the most non-district traveling of any team in R3. North Shore's only started to branch out.

I don't know why the SA area programs don't schedule more against outside opponents. SA is a centrally located, and you'd think those schools could branch out in their scheduling because travel is manageable. I think that would help improve the standard of play.

I wasn't so much disputing the why as I was stating it.

[rudedog60]

Clark would be my pick in the D2 bracket right now. O'Connor's loss to Warren opened the door for Taft, which pushes Clark D2.

It would be interesting to see if Clark could go as far as they did last year playing in the D2 Division this year as opposed to D1 last year.

I've only been actively watching Clark the last four years, and besides Churchill and Alamo Heights, they've never played another big team in any of the other 5A districts in San Antonio (I wouldn't call the scrimmage against Reagan this year a game). If the 28-5 wanted true 'street cred' in this city, they'd look at having more games outside their district. Problem with Clark (and every other SA district), is their schedule only allows for two 'outside district' games each year. The Gucci Bowl (for what it's worth) has been a Clark/Churchill tradition for as long as I've lived in San Antonio. That leaves one other game to play outside the district. So how can any SA team branch outside its region when they have only one game available to play? With both the NISD and NEISD clamping down on costs, the athletic programs could never justify the cost of going to Houston, Dallas, or even Austin to play this one road game. Remember, we're not just talking the football team. You have cheerleaders, band, drill team, ROTC, and evern student bodies to contend with getting to these games. The transportation costs allow prohibit that many out of town trips. Also, in order to justify these out of district games, you'd probabaly have to extend the season one or two more weeks. Considering the 5A Finals occur one week before Christmas as it is right now, you'll never see that happen.

[KT2000]

It would be interesting to see if Clark could go as far as they did last year playing in the D2 Division this year as opposed to D1 last year.

I've only been actively watching Clark the last four years, and besides Churchill and Alamo Heights, they've never played another big team in any of the other 5A districts in San Antonio (I wouldn't call the scrimmage against Reagan this year a game). If the 28-5 wanted true 'street cred' in this city, they'd look at having more games outside their district. Problem with Clark (and every other SA district), is their schedule only allows for two 'outside district' games each year. The Gucci Bowl (for what it's worth) has been a Clark/Churchill tradition for as long as I've lived in San Antonio. That leaves one other game to play outside the district. So how can any SA team branch outside its region when they have only one game available to play? With both the NISD and NEISD clamping down on costs, the athletic programs could never justify the cost of going to Houston, Dallas, or even Austin to play this one road game. Remember, we're not just talking the football team. You have cheerleaders, band, drill team, ROTC, and evern student bodies to contend with getting to these games. The transportation costs allow prohibit that many out of town trips. Also, in order to justify these out of district games, you'd probabaly have to extend the season one or two more weeks. Considering the 5A Finals occur one week before Christmas as it is right now, you'll never see that happen.

The travel and time constraints make sense for teams in bigger districts, but I think the Alamodome/Classic could be used to bring some of the higher quality opponents in town. Playing the Centex teams would be a start (RR district, A&M Consol/Bryan district). The logistics would be very manageable in those cases.

[SV61]

Having Nine teams in the district, to me, is a real challenge. It gives you two non district games.

From SV's Standpoint, I think SV COULD play an Austin school, for not a whole lot more financially, that they pay to go play at Wagner or Judson. In the past, SV has played teams non district, like Spring, The Woodlands, Austin Westlake, Plugerville, Round Rock Westwood, and Temple.

I think that SV will mix up their schedule before next season.

Of course, isn't this a re-alignment year, also?

Here is hoping that there are less than Nine teams, in the new districts.

[rudedog60]

The travel and time constraints make sense for teams in bigger districts, but I think the Alamodome/Classic could be used to bring some of the higher quality opponents in town. Playing the Centex teams would be a start (RR district, A&M Consol/Bryan district). The logistics would be very manageable in those cases.

The only problem I see with using the Alamodome Classic, is you would eventually have the Centex teams complaining about always being the one's traveling to SA to play the game. They lose home field advantage (any SA team could call the Alamodome home), would be the one's constantly incurring the long distance transportation costs, and not to mention wearing down their players a little by having to sit on worn out Yellow Dogs for two hours each way to get to SA.

[rudedog60]

Having Nine teams in the district, to me, is a real challenge. It gives you two non district games.

From SV's Standpoint, I think SV COULD play an Austin school, for not a whole lot more financially, that they pay to go play at Wagner or Judson. In the past, SV has played teams non district, like Spring, The Woodlands, Austin Westlake, Plugerville, Round Rock Westwood, and Temple.

I think that SV will mix up their schedule before next season.

Of course, isn't this a re-alignment year, also?

Here is hoping that there are less than Nine teams, in the new districts.


Having smaller districts would be the logical approach. However, if you made the districts smaller, wouldn't you have to create one or two more districts to handle the overflow? The other issue would be playing facilities. Having smaller districts means you'd have no Bye weeks, and their would be conflicts as to where teams could play. NISD only has Farris and Gus as playing fields. I think they'd have a logistical problem with not having enough facilities to play in on any given week.

[BandidoNB]

New Braunfels also has 2 non-district games only (being in a 9-team district), so one of their games is against Seguin, which is the longest running matchup in Texas. NB wont drop that for anything. The other game is used to play cross-town rival NB Canyon. No out-of-area games for New Braunfels I guess.

[SV61]

Having smaller districts would be the logical approach. However, if you made the districts smaller, wouldn't you have to create one or two more districts to handle the overflow? The other issue would be playing facilities. Having smaller districts means you'd have no Bye weeks, and their would be conflicts as to where teams could play. NISD only has Farris and Gus as playing fields. I think they'd have a logistical problem with not having enough facilities to play in on any given week.

While the number of teams doesn't change significantly, each team should still be able to squeeze a bye week in there. That is the beauty of an odd numbered team district. The downfall with an odd numbered team district? SOMEBODY will have their bye, at the end of the season. With smaller districts (even number of teams) many schools try to have a bye the week beFORE district opens.

By adding one district in the SA and South area, removing a school (or two)from over filled districts, and adding 4A schools that fit the criteria, you should be able to come up with districts, that don't wreck the travel budget. To me, THAT is the killer in this region (Not unlike Region 1 with El Paso, and the Dallas schools). Dallas will have this issue as well, as more and more inner city schools become 4A, and 5A schools get further and further away. The UIL tries to keep things somewhat close. Corpus Schools though, need someone to play.

[rudedog60]

While the number of teams doesn't change significantly, each team should still be able to squeeze a bye week in there. That is the beauty of an odd numbered team district. The downfall with an odd numbered team district? SOMEBODY will have their bye, at the end of the season. With smaller districts (even number of teams) many schools try to have a bye the week beFORE district opens.

By adding one district in the SA and South area, removing a school (or two)from over filled districts, and adding 4A schools that fit the criteria, you should be able to come up with districts, that don't wreck the travel budget. To me, THAT is the killer in this region (Not unlike Region 1 with El Paso, and the Dallas schools). Dallas will have this issue as well, as more and more inner city schools become 4A, and 5A schools get further and further away. The UIL tries to keep things somewhat close. Corpus Schools though, need someone to play.

The problem with adding another district in SA and South area, is the ridiculous number of school districts we have in the area. There's what, 7 districts in San Antonio alone? I guarantee you wouldn't see NISD move Clark over to 26-5, or put Holmes or Stevens into the SAISD or South San district. There's too much funding lost that way. Adding 4A school's into the mix? Do you think Kerrville Tivy, Boerne Champion, or even Alamo Heights would want to match up to the big 5A schools in town? Alamo Heights has one of the strongest 4A teams in the city. But if they had to play teams like Clark, Madison, Roosevelt, or Smithson Valley every year, that wouldn't last for long. You'd just end up with filler teams like Lee and Holmes (Don't take that the wrong way. The only reason those two teams suffer year after year is due to the reduced talent in their respective areas.)

[SV61]

The problem with adding another district in SA and South area, is the ridiculous number of school districts we have in the area. There's what, 7 districts in San Antonio alone? I guarantee you wouldn't see NISD move Clark over to 26-5, or put Holmes or Stevens into the SAISD or South San district. There's too much funding lost that way. Adding 4A school's into the mix? Do you think Kerrville Tivy, Boerne Champion, or even Alamo Heights would want to match up to the big 5A schools in town? Alamo Heights has one of the strongest 4A teams in the city. But if they had to play teams like Clark, Madison, Roosevelt, or Smithson Valley every year, that wouldn't last for long. You'd just end up with filler teams like Lee and Holmes (Don't take that the wrong way. The only reason those two teams suffer year after year is due to the reduced talent in their respective areas.)

The School Districts don't have the say in this argument. The UIL does. The UIL DOES listen to the school districts, don't get me wrong. But the UIL looks at location, School District, and enrollment numbers to create the UIL districts.

Also, my argument about Boerne, Kerrville (maybe), Steele, Clemens, Canyon, is IF they become 5A (their enrollment grows to a 5A size), they could then be added to the mix of 5A schools, and another district created. With Alamo Heights being land locked, I don't know that they will ever be 5A.

[longhorn3]

I can't really blame you for thinking Madison is a 9... but you'll notice that teams who compete for state championships have a complete team... meaning the o-line doesn't suck and they have a QB who can lead a team. I don't think Madison is a complete team.

you have a great point there

[bobcat83]

Looking at the remaining schedules-who is going to pull off the next suprise win??
TR's schedule is tough NB,Johnson,Mac,Madison and SV-even Johnson isn't a gimme.TR needs to beat NB or they could be in trouble.
Only thing for certain is that after this week Reagan will be tied for the district lead-their off.

[E-Vol-ution]

Paridy?:)
Parody and Paridy seem to mean the same thing in 26-5A because the balance of power has become laughable.

[rudedog60]

Paridy?:)


Try PARITY.

[rudedog60]

The School Districts don't have the say in this argument. The UIL does. The UIL DOES listen to the school districts, don't get me wrong. But the UIL looks at location, School District, and enrollment numbers to create the UIL districts.

Also, my argument about Boerne, Kerrville (maybe), Steele, Clemens, Canyon, is IF they become 5A (their enrollment grows to a 5A size), they could then be added to the mix of 5A schools, and another district created. With Alamo Heights being land locked, I don't know that they will ever be 5A.


I disagree with this statement. I understand your logic considering the Comal ISD schools are sucked into the 26-5A. But that's geographical in the sense that Comal couldn't form their own district due to their size, and the only other area close to you is San Marcos, who doesn't even have any 5A teams. But NISD and NEISD are way too big to be crossing borders, regardless of what the UIL would like to dictate.

If what you say is true, the only NISD school geographically close to NEISD is Clark. You could use 281 as the border, and have Clark, Reagan, Lee, Mac, and Churchill in one district, and NB, SV, Madison, Johnson, and Roosevelt in the other. You should also split Judson and Wagner up between these two newly formed districts. I think it's stupid those two schools are stuck in a district where every other team is down on the Southside or down by the coast.

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[BandidoNB]

I disagree with this statement. I understand your logic considering the Comal ISD schools are sucked into the 26-5A. But that's geographical in the sense that Comal couldn't form their own district due to their size, and the only other area close to you is San Marcos, who doesn't even have any 5A teams. But NISD and NEISD are way too big to be crossing borders, regardless of what the UIL would like to dictate.

If what you say is true, the only NISD school geographically close to NEISD is Clark. You could use 281 as the border, and have Clark, Reagan, Lee, Mac, and Churchill in one district, and NB, SV, Madison, Johnson, and Roosevelt in the other. You should also split Judson and Wagner up between these two newly formed districts. I think it's stupid those two schools are stuck in a district where every other team is down on the Southside or down by the coast.


Lets remember that UIL rules dictate that you can't split up schools in the same school district that are in the same classification. For example all NEISD are REQUIRED to be in the same district. Where Churchill goes, so goes Johnson, Lee, Reagan, Roosevelt, MacArthur, and Madison... and where Judson goes, so goes Wagner. etc etc.

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Here's a (biased) take: 265 has some good teams. 265 also has some freakish athletes on those teams. But having one or four great players does not a team make. SV appears to be the best “team” year in and out because they take good athletes, coach them extremely well and don’t make mistakes. To me, that’s it in a nutshell for HS football. Make fewer mistakes than the other guy and you win. Overall, however, it seems to me 265 reads their own press and toots their own horn a little too much. That, of course, is called passion, which 285 lacks overall. You guys (265’ers) get so much coverage from the locals compared to any other district, and often rightfully so, that in the “average” years backing down from that is impossible.<o>
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Before you start bashing 285, I’ll be the first to admit the “scoreboard” over the years. But this year is weird, as we already know. MacArthur beats Marshall 7-6 and this board is filled with Mac accolades? Clark whips Churchill 27-0 and then Churchill beats NB? My point: 265 has some good teams this year but maybe not as good as everyone thinks.
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But that’s why they play the games. That’s why it sucks there’s only a couple or three hours of it each weekend for us to go crazy over and then we have to sit around and “fan”tasize the rest of the week. Man, I love HS football…<!--EndFragment-->

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Lets remember that UIL rules dictate that you can't split up schools in the same school district that are in the same classification. For example all NEISD are REQUIRED to be in the same district. Where Churchill goes, so goes Johnson, Lee, Reagan, Roosevelt, MacArthur, and Madison... and where Judson goes, so goes Wagner. etc etc.

That way the tax payer can pay for some new stadiums. Where does it stop?

Nisd already has 9 schools, with a 10 game schedule (Soon district will start at week zero). Neisd has 8. And both districts are growing.

Build more stadiums, or split up. Spend a little more on gas, and save on stadiums.

[rudedog60]

Lets remember that UIL rules dictate that you can't split up schools in the same school district that are in the same classification. For example all NEISD are REQUIRED to be in the same district. Where Churchill goes, so goes Johnson, Lee, Reagan, Roosevelt, MacArthur, and Madison... and where Judson goes, so goes Wagner. etc etc.


So that validates what I was saying that teams can't cross school district borders - to some extent. It appears the UIL will join multiple districts (i.e. Comal and NEISD) when it's not logical to have another district due to the lack of 5A teams in a geographical area (SV and NB only two 5A teams in the New Braunfels area). However, the UIL could pull Comal ISD out of 26-5, and join them with Judson ISD to form a new district - SV, NB, Judson, and Wagner. But that wouldn't be logical to have a four team district, unless you broke up the other 9 team districts into 4 and 5 teams as well.

[rudedog60]

That way the tax payer can pay for some new stadiums. Where does it stop?

Nisd already has 9 schools, with a 10 game schedule (Soon district will start at week zero). Neisd has 8. And both districts are growing.

Build more stadiums, or split up. Spend a little more on gas, and save on stadiums.


But when you split up the districts into smaller entities, you'd actually have to have MORE stadiums. As I said earlier, where would all these smaller districts play, unless you have more Thursday night games, which the school districts hate.

[SV61]

Whole nother thread, but since we are talking about it................

It sounds like to me, that one of two things will need to happen.

1) If the UIL's "policy" is to NOT break up School Districts, then the UIL, who is the ultimate decision maker in selecting districts and who will be in them, will have to change their policy. IF the NEISD, and the NISD continue to grow (more than Nine Schools). This is what I think will happen, IF these districts continue to grow, without older schools falling into lower classifications.

OR

2) The Mega districts will have to break into, smaller districts.

Don't count on the second thing to happen. To much money to be lost, for a temporary problem. Count on the first scenario, before the second.

San Antonio is not new to this. Back in the day, the SAISD had EIGHT schools in the state's largest classification. Human Migratory patterns changed that, for MOST of these schools, are now NOT 5A.

Surely, Houston or Dallas has had similar experiences in the past?

[Fleeman93]

Whole nother thread, but since we are talking about it................

It sounds like to me, that one of two things will need to happen.

1) If the UIL's "policy" is to NOT break up School Districts, then the UIL, who is the ultimate decision maker in selecting districts and who will be in them, will have to change their policy. IF the NEISD, and the NISD continue to grow (more than Nine Schools). This is what I think will happen, IF these districts continue to grow, without older schools falling into lower classifications.

OR

2) The Mega districts will have to break into, smaller districts.

Don't count on the second thing to happen. To much money to be lost, for a temporary problem. Count on the first scenario, before the second.

San Antonio is not new to this. Back in the day, the SAISD had EIGHT schools in the state's largest classification. Human Migratory patterns changed that, for MOST of these schools, are now NOT 5A.

Surely, Houston or Dallas has had similar experiences in the past?

I bet those districts will end up doing what Fort Bend ISD is doing which is basically having a "East and West" division within district. Seems to be working well for FBISD.

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Here's a (biased) take: 265 has some good teams. 265 also has some freakish athletes on those teams. But having one or four great players does not a team make. SV appears to be the best “team” year in and out because they take good athletes, coach them extremely well and don’t make mistakes. To me, that’s it in a nutshell for HS football. Make fewer mistakes than the other guy and you win. Overall, however, it seems to me 265 reads their own press and toots their own horn a little too much. That, of course, is called passion, which 285 lacks overall. You guys (265’ers) get so much coverage from the locals compared to any other district, and often rightfully so, that in the “average” years backing down from that is impossible.<o>
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Before you start bashing 285, I’ll be the first to admit the “scoreboard” over the years. But this year is weird, as we already know. MacArthur beats Marshall 7-6 and this board is filled with Mac accolades? Clark whips Churchill 27-0 and then Churchill beats NB? My point: 265 has some good teams this year but maybe not as good as everyone thinks.
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But that’s why they play the games. That’s why it sucks there’s only a couple or three hours of it each weekend for us to go crazy over and then we have to sit around and “fan”tasize the rest of the week. Man, I love HS football…<!--EndFragment-->

Madison in the scrimmage demolishes Warren..then comes out in week 0 and whips O'conner 40-0....that is two playoff teams out of the 28-5A that were not even in the same atmosphere...are really tooting our own horn or calling reality here. Now we are taking probably the number 1 team in 26-5A this year, however i do believe that SV and Probably Reagan and Roosy would beat up the same teams. This year the only team in 28-5A to mention is Clark..they play cupcakes all year though so you will never know until playoff time how good they are...