View Full Version : Best players of the Mack Brown Era
panamamyers
09-30-2009, 08:09 AM
Best Quarterbacks (http://librarianchat.com/?p=336)
Best Defensive Backs (http://librarianchat.com/?p=325)
Best Running Backs (http://librarianchat.com/?p=315)
Best Receivers (http://librarianchat.com/?p=303)
HUM398
09-30-2009, 09:08 AM
Best Quarterbacks (http://librarianchat.com/?p=336)
Best Defensive Backs (http://librarianchat.com/?p=325)
Best Running Backs (http://librarianchat.com/?p=315)
Best Receivers (http://librarianchat.com/?p=303)
None exist. Stop showing your obsession.
svhorns
09-30-2009, 09:23 AM
Nathan Vasher?
QB's is silly. Gilbert over Chiles and Snead over Mock is just dumb.
ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2009, 10:07 AM
Best Quarterbacks (http://librarianchat.com/?p=336)
Best Defensive Backs (http://librarianchat.com/?p=325)
Best Running Backs (http://librarianchat.com/?p=315)
Best Receivers (http://librarianchat.com/?p=303)
TGO's best players, recruited by Mack, per position:
OFFENSE
http://images.chron.com/blogs/sportsjustice/archives/vy.jpg
QB-Vince Young (6'5 230 lbs) - The Real 2005 Heisman Trophy winner and Consensus All-American.. nothing else really needs be said except he's the greatest NCAAF QB of All-Time! Period!
RB-Cedric Benson (5'11 220 lbs) - All-American and Doak Walker Award Winner w/ 5,540 yds rushing (2nd in school history) - 1st Round NFL Draft Pick (2005)
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WR-Roy Williams (6'3 210 lbs) - All-American - Easily the greatest WR in Longhorn history w/ 3,866 yds (16.0 ypr) and 36 td-receptions (both school records) - 1st Round NFL Draft Pick (2004)
TE-David Thomas (6'3 245 lbs) - 2-Time All-Big XII w/ 98 receptions for 1,367 yds and 15 tds - 3rd Round NFL Draft Pick (2006)
OT-Jonathan Scott (6'6 310 lbs) - Consensus All-American at OT - 5th round NFL Draft Pick (Dockery was also Consensus All-American, but Dock played mostly at OG throughout his career!)
OG-Justin Blalock (6'3 320 lbs) - Consensus All-American w/ a school record of 50 career starts - 2nd Round NFL Draft Pick (2007) (Perhaps the greatest OG in Longhorn history!)
C-Chris Hall (6'4 300) - All-Big XII w/ 29 starts - can play all 5 positions on the line. (Sendlein was 2-Time All-Big XII, but Hall has far more upside!)
DEFENSE
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DE-Brian Orakpo (6'3 260 lbs) - Consensus All-American w/ 132 tackles, 22 sacks, and 38 TFL's - 1st Round NFL Draft Pick (2008)
DT-Marcus Tubbs (6'4 305 lbs) - 3-Time All-Big XII w/ 207 tackles, 41 TFL's and 15 sacks - 1st Round NFL Draft Pick (2004)
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LB-Derrick Johnson (6'3 230 lbs) - 2-Time Consensus All-American 2/ 458 tackles, 69 TFL's, 10.5 sacks, and 9 Ints - 1st Round NFL Draft Pick (2005)
CB-Nathan Vasher (5'10 185 lbs) - 3-Time All-Big XII w/ 17 Int's and 64 PBU's (school record) - 4th Round NFL Draft Pick (2004)
S-Michael Huff (6'1 205 lbs) - Consensus All-American and Jim Thorpe Winner w/ 318 tackles, 4 INT's returned for tds - 1st Round NFL Draft Pick (2006)
I didn't add special team players, e.g. Punter/Kicker/KR/PR.
TGO - please clarify Benson > Williams.
TGO - please clarify Benson > Williams.
I think TGO was ranking players specifically recruited by Mack.
ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2009, 10:37 AM
TGO - please clarify Benson > Williams.
Clarification is Cedric was recruited by MB, Ricky was recruited by JM. If I were going by players in the Mack Brown era, regardless of who recruited who.. it'd be a no-brainer of Ricky Williams over Cedric Benson, Leonard Davis over Jonathan Scott, and Casey Hampton over Marcus Tubbs.
ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2009, 10:38 AM
I think TGO was ranking players specifically recruited by Mack.
Exactomundo!
Clarification is Cedric was recruited by MB, Ricky was recruited by JM. If I were going by players in the Mack Brown era, regardless of who recruited who.. it'd be a no-brainer of Ricky Williams over Cedric Benson, Leonard Davis over Jonathan Scott, and Casey Hampton over Marcus Tubbs.
Got it. Missed it on the original post.
ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2009, 10:57 AM
Kinda funny how this all works out... Mack Brown vs Bob Stoops recruited players...
QB
Vince Young > Sam Bradford
RB
Cedric Benson < Adrian Peterson
WR
Roy Williams > Malcolm Kelly
TE
David Thomas < Jermaine Gresham
OT
Jonathan Scott < Jammal Brown
OG
Justin Blalock > Duke Robinson
C
Chris Hall or Lyle Sendlein < Vince Carter
DE
Brian Orakpo (22 sacks) = Dan Cody (25 sacks)
DT
Marcus Tubbs < Tommie Harris
LB
Derrick Johnson (Butkus Winner) = Teddy Lehman (Butkus Winner)
CB
Nathan Vasher (Jim Thorpe) = Derrick Strait (Jim Thorpe)
S
Michael Huff > Nic Harris
Texas = 4
OU = 5
Tie = 3
country club
09-30-2009, 12:02 PM
Kinda funny how this all works out... Mack Brown vs Bob Stoops recruited players...
QB
Vince Young > Sam Bradford
RB
Cedric Benson < Adrian Peterson
WR
Roy Williams > Malcolm Kelly
TE
David Thomas < Jermaine Gresham
OT
Jonathan Scott < Jammal Brown
OG
Justin Blalock > Duke Robinson
C
Chris Hall or Lyle Sendlein < Vince Carter
DE
Brian Orakpo (22 sacks) = Dan Cody (25 sacks)
DT
Marcus Tubbs < Tommie Harris
LB
Derrick Johnson (Butkus Winner) = Teddy Lehman (Butkus Winner)
CB
Nathan Vasher (Jim Thorpe) = Derrick Strait (Jim Thorpe)
S
Michael Huff > Nic Harris
Texas = 4
OU = 5
Tie = 3
What no love for R Calmus (LB) or R Williams (DB) ?
svhorns
09-30-2009, 12:29 PM
Kinda funny how this all works out... Mack Brown vs Bob Stoops recruited players...
QB
Vince Young > Sam Bradford
RB
Cedric Benson < Adrian Peterson
WR
Roy Williams > Malcolm Kelly
TE
David Thomas < Jermaine Gresham
OT
Jonathan Scott < Jammal Brown
OG
Justin Blalock > Duke Robinson
C
Chris Hall or Lyle Sendlein < Vince Carter
DE
Brian Orakpo (22 sacks) = Dan Cody (25 sacks)
DT
Marcus Tubbs < Tommie Harris
LB
Derrick Johnson (Butkus Winner) = Teddy Lehman (Butkus Winner)
CB
Nathan Vasher (Jim Thorpe) = Derrick Strait (Jim Thorpe)
S
Michael Huff > Nic Harris
Texas = 4
OU = 5
Tie = 3
Brian Orakpo = Dan Cody because of # of sacks? lol.
You mean to tell me the 2008 Bronko Nagurski Trophy winner. 2008 Ted Hendricks Award winner, 2008 Lombardi Award winner is = to Dan Cody because of the number of sacks?!?! try again
ThEgReAtOnE
09-30-2009, 02:45 PM
Brian Orakpo = Dan Cody because of # of sacks? lol.
You mean to tell me the 2008 Bronko Nagurski Trophy winner. 2008 Ted Hendricks Award winner, 2008 Lombardi Award winner is = to Dan Cody because of the number of sacks?!?! try again
The Hendricks Award is given to the top DE, annually. The Nagurski is given to the top defensive player of the year. The Lombardi is given to the best Lineman or Linebacker. A) Dan Cody was going against Derrick Johnson for the Nagurski Award, and B) going against David Pollack for the Hendricks and Lombardi Award's. Pollack is arguably UGA's greatest DE in their history, and was w/o doubt the best DE in 2004. Derrick Johnson is w/o doubt the best LB in Longhorn history... and certainly the best defensive player in the country, in 2004. Tell me who Orakpo was going against at DE, in 2008? Selvie? Injured. Tyson Jackson? Never made All-American team. Maybin? A 6'3 230 lb OLB.. errr DE who ran a 4.9 40-yd dash which = gimme a break! Ayers? Never made an All-American team! Defensively, Curry was a beast.. and won the Butkus Award, however he would've never won the award over Derrick Johnson in 2004. So what does that mean for Orakpo? If Orakpo didn't win the Butkus over Curry, why would I think he'd have won either the Butkus or Nagurski over Derrick Johnson? (rhetorical)
My point: Do you honestly think Orakpo would've won the Nagurski, Lombardi, and/or Hendricks Award's in 2004 over David Pollack and/or Derrick Johnson?!
Orakpo (6'3 260 lbs), in 48 games = 137 tackles, and 22 sacks. (2.9 tckls/.5 sacks per game)
Cody (6'5 265 lbs), in 42 games = 117 tackles, and 25 sacks. (2.8 tckls/.6 sacks per game)
And.. they both played in the Big XII!
Yes... Cody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqLxEyZrLGY) = Orakpo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZTelDHwUwY)! Now, Orakpo's potential might be better in the NFL, but who knows. We'll have to see! Muscle's and the jersey color don't make production any more or any less special. Production is what it is! Cody produced, just like Orakpo. He played big in big games, e.g. 2 sacks vs VY in 2004, and 1 sack vs Leinart in 2004 at BCS NC game!
Dan Cody
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Brian Orakpo
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Brian-Orakpo-UT-vs-A&M-11-27-08_(2).jpg/200px-Brian-Orakpo-UT-vs-A&M-11-27-08_(2).jpg
HUM398
09-30-2009, 03:42 PM
TGO's best players, recruited by Mack, per position:
[SIZE="5"]OFFENSE
http://images.chron.com/blogs/sportsjustice/archives/vy.jpg
QB-Vince Young (6'5 230 lbs) - The Real 2005 Heisman Trophy winner and Consensus All-American.. nothing else really needs be said except he's the greatest NCAAF QB of All-Time! Period!
WRONG...
Everyone knows it was Brady Quinn
NeverIsNow
09-30-2009, 04:59 PM
WRONG...
Everyone knows it was Brady Quinn
Tim Tebow ;)
chhspantherfan
09-30-2009, 05:03 PM
Tim Tebow ;)
Sammy Baugh ;);)
PeterGibbons
09-30-2009, 05:11 PM
"Colt was a three star recruit out of high school. He was the backup plan to Robert Perriloux, who is no where to be found these days. Colt has succeeded more than anyone could have expected him to coming out of such a small high school. McCoy had his bumps in the road his first few years, but the last year and a hald he has been spectacular at times and only very, very good all the other times."
Who?? No where to be found I'll say, no one can even remember his name!
WestPlano006
10-01-2009, 01:29 AM
Vasher has to be on that list, without him, Superman doesn't happen!!
WestPlano006
10-01-2009, 01:29 AM
WRONG...
Everyone knows it was Brady Quinn
Rhett Bomar
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