Once again Top Dog in East Texas

[GameTyme]

It was only a matter of time before Cujo was back and from what I hear from one of my friends that was there when Cujo beat Lufkin. Is that there are big and fast. After Longviews performance against Texas High I think JT is clearly the top dog in East Texas again it may have taken them a lil longer then expected (Since maybe 97) but they are sure looking like the old John Tyler you dont want on your schedule that you pretty much chalked up an L. Now enjoy JT for another year well maybe until the 4th RD;) but congrats because I have always said if I did not play for Lufkin there is only one other school I would have played for and that is Cujo. Congrats but I hope my Pack is able to return the favor by the end of the season.

[bullshark]

glad to see cujo back on the radar

[bullshark]

cujo played for a state title 2000 against katy so they have been there since 97

[GameTyme]

cujo played for a state title 2000 against katy so they have been there since 97


They werent the best team in east texas in 2000 :D:D believe they lost to LV and LP that year and KT twicwe but your right. If Ross never muffs that punt JT had a chance

[bullshark]

i am the biggest lp homer there is, but who the best team was that year is subjective opinion. jt went farther in the p.o.'s beat waco a week after they beat us out, and then played for the state crown. i love good records and running the tale but that does not mean jack diddly at theend of the year without a ring. and for the record i have had season tickets since i was born, my dad started the little panther program and i was the first little panther matt mcall was my big panther. at one time my dad, wa dempsey, and mike capps were the only members of the booster club during the culpepper era. so i bleed purple and gold. also helped lead the pack to district championships in baseball in 98 and 99 but this is all opinion. i think our 2006 team was the best team in the nation, but round rock said otherwise

[GameTyme]

i am the biggest lp homer there is, but who the best team was that year is subjective opinion. jt went farther in the p.o.'s beat waco a week after they beat us out, and then played for the state crown. i love good records and running the tale but that does not mean jack diddly at theend of the year without a ring. and for the record i have had season tickets since i was born, my dad started the little panther program and i was the first little panther matt mcall was my big panther. at one time my dad, wa dempsey, and mike capps were the only members of the booster club during the culpepper era. so i bleed purple and gold. also helped lead the pack to district championships in baseball in 98 and 99 but this is all opinion. i think our 2006 team was the best team in the nation, but round rock said otherwise


I agree and football is like boxing styles make fights. The only think about the 06 team was the defense was not that strong at LB still havent recovered from that lose.

Just waiting for KO sucks that I wont be able to make a game to the playoffs

[wolfpack4life]

I wish cujo could have had a game againt the 'bos instead of a scrimmage...would have been a NAIL BITTER!:notworthy

[LPack007]

I wish cujo could have had a game againt the 'bos instead of a scrimmage...would have been a NAIL BITTER!:notworthy

With the Lobos losing...:D

[wolfpack4life]

It was only a matter of time before Cujo was back and from what I hear from one of my friends that was there when Cujo beat Lufkin. Is that there are big and fast. After Longviews performance against Texas High I think JT is clearly the top dog in East Texas again it may have taken them a lil longer then expected (Since maybe 97) but they are sure looking like the old John Tyler you dont want on your schedule that you pretty much chalked up an L. Now enjoy JT for another year well maybe until the 4th RD;) but congrats because I have always said if I did not play for Lufkin there is only one other school I would have played for and that is Cujo. Congrats but I hope my Pack is able to return the favor by the end of the season.
I hate to say...but i agree. We have so much big heads its not even funny. Our secondary havent really had a good game since the tyler lee game..they even showed heart in the allen game. They need serious work now. I dont know what to say about our O..only thing i can think of is that there is lack of execution. Holding...fumbling you name it...there doing it too much. Gonna be a long season for us if we dont fix this.

[wolfpack4life]

With the Lobos losing...:D
Here you go:rolleyes:

[kalanj]

2000 Cujo Lost to Lee and LP that year in district not Longview.

[kalanj]

I knew CUJO had a great offense and would at least make it to the third round, but now I believe they are state worthy. I am not saying they are going to win state or even make it to state, but i wouldn't be suprise if they did go all the way. I am a firm believer they can go all the way but I'm a keep it to myself and let them play it out.

[kalanj]

J. Johnson is on the same level as R. McNeil

[wolfpack4life]

J. Johnson is on the same level as R. McNeil
:rolleyes:

[LPack007]

J. Johnson is on the same level as R. McNeil

:rolleyes: you're crazy!!

[kalanj]

How so, because he's not from Lufkin? Look at McNeil stats through his 1st 5 games and look at Johnson I guarantee you Johnson is way better. Plus McNeil doesn't have better stats than Claybon of 2006.

[LPack007]

How so?

because he's not on the same level, that's how so...

[kalanj]

Well people in Tyler think so, so it doesn't matter what LP think. You have your opinion and I have mine and plus I never said he was better just on his level. If I'm going to compare Johnson I'm going to compare to one of the best and that was McNeil. They both can throw the ball and beat you with their feet thats why I say they are on the same level. No disrespect to McNeil at all. It's like comparing Kobe to Jordan they both play the same way. It doesn't mean Kobe is better than Jordan. When you see Kobe you think of MJ thats all. Same way I see Johnson I think of McNeil.

[LPack007]

How so, because he's not from Lufkin? Look at McNeil stats through his 1st 5 games and look at Johnson I guarantee you Johnson is way better. Plus McNeil doesn't have better stats than Claybon of 2006.

That doesn't have anything to do with it. He's a great player I just dont think he's on the same level as Mcneal right now. You can say what Reggie did at the start of that season, but what did he do when he finish that season? and i'm leaving it at that..

[LPack007]

Well people in Tyler think so, so it doesn't matter what LP think. You have your opinion and I have mine and plus I never said he was better just on his level. If I'm going to compare Johnson I'm going to compare to one of the best and that was McNeil. They both can throw the ball and beat you with their feet thats why I say they are on the same level. No disrespect to McNeil at all. It's like comparing Kobe to Jordan they both play the same way. It doesn't mean Kobe is better than Jordan. When you see Kobe you think of MJ thats all. Same way I see Johnson I think of McNeil.

Somebody from Longview also feels the same way...but nevermind.

[kalanj]

We haven't gotten that far yet? I can only compare how many games Johnson has played to date what Reggie has done in the same time span. Thats it.

[Rapture]

They werent the best team in east texas in 2000 :D:D believe they lost to LV and LP that year and KT twicwe but your right. If Ross never muffs that punt JT had a chance
no they loss to lee,lufkin and katy that year. lee went thru district undefeated

[Rapture]

J. Johnson is on the same level as R. McNeil
with all do respect to reggie, johnson is playin at a higher level than macniel. stats are off the charts already just for 5 games

[Rapture]

:rolleyes: you're crazy!!
NO YOU CRAZY !:eek: STOP WITH THE HOMERISM JUST LOOK AT THE STATS

[Rapture]

How so, because he's not from Lufkin? Look at McNeil stats through his 1st 5 games and look at Johnson I guarantee you Johnson is way better. Plus McNeil doesn't have better stats than Claybon of 2006.MAN YOU WILL NEVER GET THEM TO ADMIT THAT. REGGIE WASNT TO HARD TO CONTAIN SOMETIMES. BUT HE WAS GOOD, DIDNT HAVE NOTHING ON WHAT JOHNSON IS DOING. IF JOHNSON WINS STATE. ITS CERTIAN:notworthy

[LPack007]

NO YOU CRAZY !:eek: STOP WITH THE HYOMERISM JUST LOOK AT THE STATS

Learn how to spell it first and then I will stop!:p

[99cujo]

Well I must admit ......we are good but not that good yet. Right now we are 0-0 must get ready for a very good district. GOOD LUCK CUJO go get that Gold Ball!!

[wolfpack4life]

no they loss to lee,lufkin and katy that year. lee went thru district undefeated
havent done that in a while have they rapture:D

[wolfpack4life]

MAN YOU WILL NEVER GET THEM TO ADMIT THAT. REGGIE WASNT TO HARD TO CONTAIN SOMETIMES. BUT HE WAS GOOD, DIDNT HAVE NOTHING ON WHAT JOHNSON IS DOING. IF JOHNSON WINS STATE. ITS CERTIAN:notworthy
Dont start getting big headed now...trust me. It has bad side effects lol

[GameTyme]

Johnson is a freak but to think he is better then Reggie Mac is pushin the envelope a lil bit. Johnson will more then likely be a college WR where Reggie played QB in the Big 12 not at SMU.

Can Johnson lead Cujo to state this year I see why not from what I have concluded is that JT should be #1 in Texas right now.

Check it out Longview beat Allen who many thought were #1. Then you have Katy knockin off the NS who then lost to TW then you have who in a few weeks will loose to Lufkin gurantee like my check on the 1st and 15th :D then you have Lufkin beatin Longview and JT beatin Lufkin. I know this is all BS but you can actually conclude one thing from this. That East Texas is once again the best football in Texas. Also NS beat SLC last night and is there anyone that doesnt actually think after watching SLC that John Tyler could proly beat them easily as well beat NS. I aint sayin im just sayin.

Now with all the jumbo jibberish out the way. John Tyler I think should be #1 they have one of the best play makers in Texas at QB he is some what Russell Shepheard like:eek: yeah he is that good, but the Cujo defense is back to the old Cujo big and fast and like a little contact. Led by possibly the best DT in Texas.

This is going to be very exciting for East Texas football this season

[Rapture]

havent done that in a while have they rapture:D
longview hasnt won state in a while have they wolfy boy;)

[Rapture]

Dont start getting big headed now...trust me. It has bad side effects lol
well i guess you should know 28-14 lufkin

[GameTyme]

longview hasnt won state in a while have they wolfy boy;)


I happen to like u Rapture but Lee hasnt won a game this season.

HHonestly ive been gone in basic training gettin ready to somewhere and blow some **** up right. Can Tyler Lee make they playoffs and what do you think they will finish in district. Imstill holdin out that you will get 3rd.

[kalanj]

I never said Johnson was better than McNeil, I just said he was on the same level by the way he is playing now. That should be a compliment by me comparing someone to McNeil. That just goes to show you how great he was. I can also guarantee you this Johnson won't be going to SMU. He only committed because that was the only offer he had at that time. Dinkins committed to TCU last year and as soon as someone else gave him a offer he decommitted, so those verbal commitments mean nothing.

[kalanj]

I believe Johnson can play qb in college. You probably only seem him that one time against LP but for all of us who has seen him every week we know he can play qb at the next level and succeed.:)

[GameTyme]

I believe Johnson can play qb in college. You probably only seem him that one time against LP but for all of us who has seen him every week we know he can play qb at the next level and succeed.:)


I know he can play QB I think he is the best dual threat in Texas, but usually the bigger school he goes to the more likely he will play another position. I would love to see him go to U of H think he would be one hell of a QB there also at Baylor RS and replacing Griffin as a Sophmore. Last time I saw Johnson he hadnt stopped running yet :D.

What are the chances JT bust out the Cujo jersey for PO's would love to see the all blue with Cujo in white across the front.

[kalanj]

Very likely but then again who knows.

[Rapture]

I happen to like u Rapture but Lee hasnt won a game this season.

HHonestly ive been gone in basic training gettin ready to somewhere and blow some **** up right. Can Tyler Lee make they playoffs and what do you think they will finish in district. Imstill holdin out that you will get 3rd.
well i have my opinion but im gonna let them play and see if they can finnally do what i know thwy have the talent to do. as far as place in district, im hoping for first but ill be just as happy with the 4th spot because their are five teams in this district that has the talent to go deep in the playoffs and one of them is lee in my opinion and someone will get left out

[CO99JTHS]

Just WOW.....Hmmmm....JT is rolling. Truth ; whomever beats this team will have to be VERY PHYSICAL, VERY FAST on "O" and "D"...and hope JT has an off night. I'm a go ahead and say it this team is flat out "special". You can see it in the way they carry themselves. Its a quiet confidence and they're obviously playing with 4 yr chips on their shoulders. The team that beats them had better be geared for a shootout and dominant on both lines. I don't see ANY team holding them to under 35 points. Too many weapons and too many ways they can beat you. I'm still not totally sold on the "D" though. I'm not really sure they've been tested. The offense is legit. Its easily the best JT offense I've ever seen and they'll re-write JT's records books.

As for the Johnson > McNeil...naa not so much. They're 2 totally different players. McNeil was a better passer, Johnson is the better runner. It looks as though Johnson reads defenses alot better than did Reggie. I'd take either to lead my team any day of the week. If Johnson gets us a ring, we'll rehash this discussion. Oh yea, I highly doubt SMU lands Johnson or Collins...just saying. Both should be considered big time wr/ath recruits. I kinda hate the bye week comes at a time when we're clicking like we are though.

[gtee2]

J. Johnson is on the same level as R. McNeil

I haven't seen JT's Qb play but, some what I've read and heard, he's unbelieveable!

To be on Reggie status, he is gonna have to put his team on his back and go out and TAKE a state title! Which is exactly what Reggie did against Westlake.

IMO...McNeal was even with Vince. He just chose the wrong school.

[kalanj]

Vondreel didn't win state or even make it to state but he is still on the same level as F. Talley same with D. Farmer and T. Ross. I don't think you have to win state to be on the same level but it helps. We all know a lot of players that were great and never won state but that doesn't mean the person who won state is better than the person who did not win state. Just looking at the body of work that Johnson has compiled is more than amazing and that's why I say he is on the same level as McNeil. McNeil doesn't have the best single year passing or touchdown record at Lufkin but he is probably still consider the best to come out of LP. Morris Anderson won state for JT and I guarantee you Johnson is better than him and I'm not taking anything from Morris because he was a hell of QB/ leader for Cujo! Johnson stats so far through five games:


passing yards 815
passing attempts 47/70 at 67%
passing TD 5


rushing yards 671
rushing carries 66
rushing TD 11
Thats pretty damn good to me!!:notworthy

[wolfpack4life]

longview hasnt won state in a while have they wolfy boy;)
Yet we still own lee...so does everyone else:eek:..havent won a game and your talking about lgv...that cracks me up:laugh

[wolfpack4life]

well i guess you should know 28-14 lufkin
Exactly! but we've still won a game:D
Now here's a good question...is this yrs JT team better than the 05 JT team?

[kalanj]

Hell yea on offense any way; defense not up to par with that 05 bunch. The 05 had some head hunters on defense.

[Beast From The East]

i agree

[Beast From The East]

good point

[goodessa]

I haven't seen JT's Qb play but, some what I've read and heard, he's unbelieveable!

To be on Reggie status, he is gonna have to put his team on his back and go out and TAKE a state title! Which is exactly what Reggie did against Westlake.

IMO...McNeal was even with Vince. He just chose the wrong school.your silly vince is tx football reggie was east tx football.notice i said was.

[goodessa]

Vondreel didn't win state or even make it to state but he is still on the same level as F. Talley same with D. Farmer and T. Ross. I don't think you have to win state to be on the same level but it helps. We all know a lot of players that were great and never won state but that doesn't mean the person who won state is better than the person who did not win state. Just looking at the body of work that Johnson has compiled is more than amazing and that's why I say he is on the same level as McNeil. McNeil doesn't have the best single year passing or touchdown record at Lufkin but he is probably still consider the best to come out of LP. Morris Anderson won state for JT and I guarantee you Johnson is better than him and I'm not taking anything from Morris because he was a hell of QB/ leader for Cujo! Johnson stats so far through five games:


passing yards 815
passing attempts 47/70 at 67%
passing TD 5


rushing yards 671
rushing carries 66
rushing TD 11
Thats pretty damn good to me!!:notworthyyepp alot of tms would like to have just half of that production

[Bootsdaddy]

your silly vince is tx football reggie was east tx football.notice i said was.

Actually coming out of high school they were considered almost even prospects and Reggie had success at the college level before Vince. Going into their Sr seasons in college there still was not that much seperation between the two. Of course Vince had a magical Sr season and became a Texas football legend. Reggie struggled with injuries and arguably terrible coaching and had a disappointing Senior season. At least Reggie still plays football for a living unlike VY who practices football for a living.

[NeverIsNow]

well i guess you should know 28-14 lufkin

Are you a Lee fan talking trash to a Longview fan because they lost to Lufkin? Really?

:laugh

[gtee2]

Actually coming out of high school they were considered almost even prospects and Reggie had success at the college level before Vince. Going into their Sr seasons in college there still was not that much seperation between the two. Of course Vince had a magical Sr season and became a Texas football legend. Reggie struggled with injuries and arguably terrible coaching and had a disappointing Senior season. At least Reggie still plays football for a living unlike VY who practices football for a living.

And I love VY but, if he doesn't have a once in life time game...he's a NFL WR like they tried to make Reggie!

[96-99cujomonster]

We was running things all the way to 1999, but the way you feel game tyme is the way most people who played for jt feel. Lufkin was the only team we felt like hands down there were going to bring it too us and we had to be ready to step up to the challenge. ( we were ) what happen to us is politics played a issue with allen wilson and mike owens the two head coaches in tyler. Therefore we got a coach that didnt know how to coach pop warner so we had a set bacc until thomas brooks came. But the one thing about the pacc yall still have outlaw and outlaw has brainwashed yall how to be winners because he was there in the 90's. So yall continued to be good on into the 2000's. Our coach that brainwashed us left after 2001 0r so and thats why our program hit rocc bottom quicc.

[wolfpack4life]

We was running things all the way to 1999, but the way you feel game tyme is the way most people who played for jt feel. Lufkin was the only team we felt like hands down there were going to bring it too us and we had to be ready to step up to the challenge. ( we were ) what happen to us is politics played a issue with allen wilson and mike owens the two head coaches in tyler. Therefore we got a coach that didnt know how to coach pop warner so we had a set bacc until thomas brooks came. But the one thing about the pacc yall still have outlaw and outlaw has brainwashed yall how to be winners because he was there in the 90's. So yall continued to be good on into the 2000's. Our coach that brainwashed us left after 2001 0r so and thats why our program hit rocc bottom quicc.
In ET? i think not...not in 91'92'93 and 97'

[96-99cujomonster]

that still leaves a whole bunch of years and we still were running thins we just got tired of always holdin up all the trophies. we had yall beat but i running bacc dropped pass to put us ahead at the end of game and he was wide open by his self

[wolfpack4life]

that still leaves a whole bunch of years and we still were running thins we just got tired of always holdin up all the trophies. we had yall beat but i running bacc dropped pass to put us ahead at the end of game and he was wide open by his self
yall didnt start really doing damage in the 90's until 94' with that kick return lol

[ROD LEE]

in et? I think not...not in 91'92'93 and 97''91 jt 17 lv 14

[wolfpack4life]

'91 jt 17 lv 14
Yet we still won district...;)

[wolfpack4life]

JT will likely be in the this coming up rankings with north shore losing to PA memorial 7-6

[96-99cujomonster]

yall didnt start really doing damage in the 90's until 94' with that kick return lol

permian came down here we dug in they butt and therefore came up with cujo to mark there saying of mojo. Bacc when they where winnin state titles. So dont say we didnt start winnin until kicc off

[LP-79]

permian came down here we dug in they butt and therefore came up with cujo to mark there saying of mojo. Bacc when they where winnin state titles. So dont say we didnt start winnin until kicc off

RAPTURES brother?:rolleyes:

[wolfpack4life]

RAPTURES brother?:rolleyes:
Nope! dont get along with em either:D

[wolfpack4life]

permian came down here we dug in they butt and therefore came up with cujo to mark there saying of mojo. Bacc when they where winnin state titles. So dont say we didnt start winnin until kicc off
:rolleyes: well i was just trying to correct you...talkin about JT just straight ran ET in the 90's..they might have owned..marshall,lee and even lufkin...but they never ran LGV in the 90's thats for sure...and till this day..they still dont..they havent beat lgv in years..they had there chance in 07' but they blew it..even in 05' i fill that they shoulda played better with that team they had.

[LPack007]

:rolleyes: well i was just trying to correct you...talkin about JT just straight ran ET in the 90's..they might have owned..marshall,lee and even lufkin...but they never ran LGV in the 90's thats for sure...and till this day..they still dont..they havent beat lgv in years..they had there chance in 07' but they blew it..even in 05' i fill that they shoulda played better with that team they had.

They still had a very good 6-3-1 record vs the Lobos from 90-99.

[wolfpack4life]

They still had a very good 6-3-1 record vs the Lobos from 90-99.
Back when we had collins and bero as head coaches..both loved to run that option...I hated it! lol Wouldnt throw the ball if there lives depended on it. When king became head coach we severly dominated them..even with that 05' team they had(42-13)..yes i know we hade vondrell and what not but they had athletes too.

[Vong]

Saying you beat JT in 02, 03, and 04 really don't accomplish nothing. JT might of had 25 players so you gets no respect for that because everybody beat JT. They were running on four flat tires. Beat JT when both are good at the same time and then you have an argument, otherwise I wouldn't even tell nobody we beat JT like somebody gone give you props for doing so.

[wolfpack4life]

Saying you beat JT in 02, 03, and 04 really don't accomplish nothing. JT might of had 25 players so you gets no respect for that because everybody beat JT. They were running on four flat tires. Beat JT when both are good at the same time and then you have an argument, otherwise I wouldn't even tell nobody we beat JT like somebody gone give you props for doing so.
Oh really? i see you didnt put 05' up there:eek:..which was a good JT team(42-13)

[kalanj]

That's because JT actually had enough players that no one had to play both ways. Ya'll were just better in 05!:D