Katy Tigers

[BlakeJ]

+1. Katy is not as dependent on QB play as many other teams.

Yes. If my son is lucky enough to grow up and be a QB...and he develops half the skill set Brooks Haack developed...he's already good enough to win a state championship at Katy.

[slcdragonfan]

Yes. If my son is lucky enough to grow up and be a QB...and he develops half the skill set Brooks Haack developed...he's already good enough to win a state championship at Katy.

We agree. I very much wanted to see him play this year, I was seriously impressed with his play against Abilene, coming in late in the playoffs to be the starter, a soph....keeping Katy in the game.

Sometimes things just don't go right. Even the best coaches make judgment calls that in retrospect may not have been the best choice. Even the best teams have a down day here and there. What you can only hope is that they don't it against someone who can take advantage. By the 3rd/4th round, there are few left who can't take advantage.

The danger for a winning program like Katy is, after two years of not making the finals, you start "eating your young" so to speak. I think Katy has enough faith in their coaches, players, community, and "team" not to do that. When expectations get highly elevated, any falloff at all can seem like decline when in fact it is just reality that getting to the State Championship is a remarkable thing in and of itself.

[Austin109]

So Brooks Haack is an overrated QB because the Katy Tigers didnt win a state championship from 2009 to 2011?

Was Brooks Haack the reason Katy didn't or couldn't win those titles?

Carl you made a list of Katy QB's and where you felt Brooks was at. On that list, Parker Ray is nowhere to be found.

Ask yourself 3 questions....

1) Put Brooks on the 2008 team. Do they win the state title?
2) Put Parker on the 2009, 2010, and 2011 team. Does Katy beat Abilene, Pearland, and La Porte?
3) Reevaluate with those 2 questions. Was Brooks Haack the reason Katy didn't win a state title in 2009, 2010, and 2011?

My answers

1) Yes
2) No, no, no
3) No

I think someone above nailed a good piece of what was responsible for Katy's last 2 losses. Katy was in games where they were out of their comfort zone and the coaches at the end of those games stumbled a little bit.

Everyone played horrible against La Porte. Some more than others, and I think we all can assume that Brooks feels very responsible for that game and wishes he could have that one play back...but he's 18 years old. For an 18 year old kid he is one hell of a QB with or without that one play.

JMO.

This. Allllllllllllllllllll of this.

[85Roughneck]

As far as being "overrated" though, what is/was the standard for him? State titles? If it's state titles, then I believe that's more of a team thing than a Haack thing. We've proven that we can win state titles with QBs that are nothing more than above average high school QBs.

I think if we're considering the word "overrated" with him, then that's purely on us for putting unrealistic expectations on him from the get-go.

I prefer to consider the whole package of skills, competition, results, etc... Obviously, there's no number or stat that defines this, but I think you've got to consider it all to be fair to the QB.

Without putting much thought into it... IMO.

1. Andy Dalton
2. Matt Gore
3. Jared Kaspar
4. Brooks Haack
5. Bo Levi Mitchell
6. Rob Peters

As far as football career after High School, I think Brooks will finish as the 2nd or 3rd most successful to come out of Katy. One thing is for sure, we've been blessed with some serious talent at the quarterback position over the years. but what's in the pipeline? what is coming up for 2012, 2013, and 2014 and so on for QB's at Katy. I didn't hear much about the backups this year

[BlakeJ]

but what's in the pipeline? what is coming up for 2012, 2013, and 2014 and so on for QB's at Katy. I didn't hear much about the backups this year

Kylie Huddleston is a very capable QB. The fact that he will have a healthy Adam Taylor and Rodney Anderson in the backfield (assuming Kylie wins the starting job) will make life easy for him as a Junior in his first year as the Katy QB.

He's a big kid. Could afford to grow a couple inches but thick. I've heard his official measurables are 5'10 180 lbs. He throws the ball well. He looked pretty good as a sophmore in the spring game. Didn't see the little amount of playing time he got on varsity.

[dada]

Kylie Huddleston is a very capable QB. The fact that he will have a healthy Adam Taylor and Rodney Anderson in the backfield (assuming Kylie wins the starting job) will make life easy for him as a Junior in his first year as the Katy QB.

He's a big kid. Could afford to grow a couple inches but thick. I've heard his official measurables are 5'10 180 lbs. He throws the ball well. He looked pretty good as a sophmore in the spring game. Didn't see the little amount of playing time he got on varsity.

Kylie is bigger than that

[BlakeJ]

Kylie is bigger than that

Where do you see this? The roster says 5'10 190 I think. I heard he was a little lighter.

[dada]

Where do you see this? The roster says 5'10 190 I think. I heard he was a little lighter.

See it with my eyeballs.....when he's standing next to Haack warming up.

[KT2000]

This guy didn't win state at Katy:

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/1886810/89717_Bengals_Browns_Football.jpg

He turned out OK.

[slcdragonfan]

This guy didn't win state at Katy:

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/1886810/89717_Bengals_Browns_Football.jpg

He turned out OK.

Wasn't that because he had a broken finger or something like that? ;)

[BlakeJ]

See it with my eyeballs.....when he's standing next to Haack warming up.

Do you have a good vision insurance plan? :D

[dada]

Do you have a good vision insurance plan? :D

I have "special" eyes.

[Leave it on the field]

Hudd is 6' and around 195. Has a big arm, plays SS and pitches...high 80's as a soph. Good field awareness, faster than Brooks, great touch on the long ball, I don't know about the out routes...they really didn't use those much on the JV level, mostly the TE seems and drags and the 9 routes and posts for WR. He probaly had close to 20 TD's through the air and probably should have had more. He has all the tools to be a great QB. He would be, imo, the best option right now. He will have a great running game behind him, two good TE's, a good OL...big question is....who will be his Fulks, with Fulks being the new JT.

[KT2000]

Rodney Anderson

I bet he can throw a decent ball.

2012...Wild Tiger

[dada]

Hudd is 6' and around 195. Has a big arm, plays SS and pitches...high 80's as a soph. Good field awareness, faster than Brooks, great touch on the long ball, I don't know about the out routes...they really didn't use those much on the JV level, mostly the TE seems and drags and the 9 routes and posts for WR. He probaly had close to 20 TD's through the air and probably should have had more. He has all the tools to be a great QB. He would be, imo, the best option right now. He will have a great running game behind him, two good TE's, a good OL...big question is....who will be his Fulks, with Fulks being the new JT.

Maybe Anderson will be his Fulks.....maybe he goes back to WR with Taylor, Bickham and I hear there was another good freshman RB this season. Also, would love to see how Lane Rodgers and Trey Dunn fit into the WR scheme....great size on both of them.

[cougmantx]

Wasn't that because he had a broken finger or something like that? ;)

Yes and the wind in Texas Stadium was terrible that day! :rofl:

[BlakeJ]

Maybe Anderson will be his Fulks.....maybe he goes back to WR with Taylor, Bickham and I hear there was another good freshman RB this season. Also, would love to see how Lane Rodgers and Trey Dunn fit into the WR scheme....great size on both of them.

You really think Anderson goes back to WR? I dont think so. Stranger things have happened however. If Englett and Rodgers work hard in the offseason they certainly should be mentioned.

[slcdragonfan]

Yes and the wind in Texas Stadium was terrible that day! :rofl:

lol...Thank goodness my new sister-in-law wasn't there, she is the kiss of death. Wind, fingers, rain, they are nothing to her jinxability....

[ktCarl]

So Brooks Haack is an overrated QB because the Katy Tigers didnt win a state championship from 2009 to 2011?

Was Brooks Haack the reason Katy didn't or couldn't win those titles?

Carl you made a list of Katy QB's and where you felt Brooks was at. On that list, Parker Ray is nowhere to be found. (DUH!) Maybe I didn't think he bolnged on that list? :heli:

Ask yourself 3 questions.... :rolleyes:

1) Put Brooks on the 2008 team. Do they win the state title?
2) Put Parker on the 2009, 2010, and 2011 team. Does Katy beat Abilene, Pearland, and La Porte?
3) Reevaluate with those 2 questions. Was Brooks Haack the reason Katy didn't win a state title in 2009, 2010, and 2011?

My answers

1) Yes (How can you possibly know? Are you Carnac?)
2) No, no, no
3) No

I think someone above nailed a good piece of what was responsible for Katy's last 2 losses. Katy was in games where they were out of their comfort zone and the coaches at the end of those games stumbled a little bit.

Everyone played horrible against La Porte. Some more than others, and I think we all can assume that Brooks feels very responsible for that game and wishes he could have that one play back...but he's 18 years old. For an 18 year old kid he is one hell of a QB with or without that one play.

JMO.

You are just like Maxtor. You make up imaginary scenarios and then have the answer for those scenarios when in reality you don't have a clue what would have happened. I won't waste my time discussing how well the 1997 team would have done with Kaspar as the QB back then. Pure conjecture.
I can't belive I'm the only Katy fan that can look at the team objectively. I guess I ran out of red koolaid.

[BlakeJ]

I bet he can throw a decent ball.

2012...Wild Tiger

You wish....lol.

[dada]

You really think Anderson goes back to WR? I dont think so. Stranger things have happened however. If Englett and Rodgers work hard in the offseason they certainly should be mentioned.

I know it was 7 on 7, but both of those guys looked great last year...

[KT2000]

You wish....lol.

Yes, yes I do.

Anderson-Taylor-Fulks > Sims-Sims-Curtis

[BlakeJ]

You are just like Maxtor. You make up imaginary scenarios and then have the answer for those scenarios when in reality you don't have a clue what would have happened. I won't waste my time discussing how well the 1997 team would have done with Kaspar as the QB back then. Pure conjecture.
I can't belive I'm the only Katy fan that can look at the team objectively. I guess I ran out of red koolaid.

I'm not just like Maxtor first off.

I'm using the grading guidelines you listed. I'm using your list of QB's as reference. You yourself said that Brooks Haack is better than Parker Ray. Parker Ray was good enough of a QB to win a state championship as a Katy Tiger.

If Parker Ray was good enough and you regard Brooks as a better QB, how can you say Brooks wasn't good enough?

My point is...you can't pin the tail on Haack. It was a team failure from the coaching staff to the bottom. Everyone had a hand in the last 3 Katy Tiger losses.

I still am unsure of what you are saying. Are you saying that Haack isn't a good QB? Are you saying that Haack is the reason the Tigers lost against Abilene, Pearland, and La Porte? I'm confused I guess.

[BlakeJ]

Yes, yes I do.

Anderson-Taylor-Fulks > Sims-Sims-Curtis

I might make my daughter quit softball for that sight. lol

[BlakeJ]

PS....Carl if I'm like Maxtor and his stupid scenarios...you're like TGO and his worthless rankings. :D

[jc84chill]

but what's in the pipeline? what is coming up for 2012, 2013, and 2014 and so on for QB's at Katy. I didn't hear much about the backups this year

I've also heard really good things about Soph to be Sy Slater, but we may not be ready to throw a Sophomore out there. Heck, even Haack didn't start until the end of his Sophomore year.

Just another candidate to keep in mind though.

[jc84chill]

This guy didn't win state at Katy:

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/1886810/89717_Bengals_Browns_Football.jpg

He turned out OK.

I was holding that Ace for my final showdown with Carl in this discussion. :D

[dada]

I've also heard really good things about Soph to be Sy Slater, but we may not be ready to throw a Sophomore out there. Heck, even Haack didn't start until the end of his Sophomore year.

Just another candidate to keep in mind.

Skill positions are taken care of......want to see how the Oline looks....imagine Sowell at NG....that would be SCARY. Also, Bo Brown has to be replaced.....you replace Ebrecht....with another Ebrecht.....Strickler is a good player as well....want to see him bulk up over the summer.

[BlakeJ]

I've also heard really good things about Soph to be Sy Slater, but we may not be ready to throw a Sophomore out there. Heck, even Haack didn't start until the end of his Sophomore year.

Just another candidate to keep in mind though.

Another coaches kid. His dad is the strength and conditioning coach I believe. His sister was one heck of a softball player as well. Wasn't aware that he was a QB.

[ktCarl]

I was holding that Ace for my final showdown with Carl in this discussion. :D

Dalton led the team to a State Title. Haack didn't.

Is Ben Johnson better than Dalton?

SNAP!

[jc84chill]

Maybe Anderson will be his Fulks.....maybe he goes back to WR with Taylor, Bickham and I hear there was another good freshman RB this season. Also, would love to see how Lane Rodgers and Trey Dunn fit into the WR scheme....great size on both of them.

You really think Anderson goes back to WR? I dont think so. Stranger things have happened however. If Englett and Rodgers work hard in the offseason they certainly should be mentioned.

It'll be interesting to see how our coaches shake it all out. If I'm a coach, I'm getting my 11 best players on the field. Every play that Rodney is standing on the sidelines, that aint happening.

Adam Taylor is clearly the #1 RB. Kyle Fulks is clearly the #1 WR. Rodney Anderson is the second best RB and WR. Based on the North Shore game, I'm going to take a guess and say he's our best run blocker at WR too. I'm convinced Rodney would be our 1st or 2nd best player at every position outside the trenches.

I don't "move" Rodney back to WR, I just play him at both positions. He starts at WR and over to RB for his series every third possession or so. He's a special talent and we can't afford to have him on the sidelines.

After putting up a scorching 7 points and getting eliminated from the playoffs in the 3rd round, we better find a way to get Rodney on the field for every snap.

[ktCarl]

PS....Carl if I'm like Maxtor and his stupid scenarios...you're like TGO and his worthless rankings. :D

At least you're aware that Maxtor's scenarios are stupid.

I think it's funny that the whole theme of my opinion is that Haack was a bit overrated. It's like I said he sucked.

[ktCarl]

I might make my daughter quit softball for that sight. lol

I made a comment about softball and you and Haack and it was destroyed. Yours survives. :eek:

[jc84chill]

Dalton led the team to a State Title. Haack didn't.

Is Ben Johnson better than Dalton?

SNAP!

No sir. Both went to state, but neither won.

Not in my book. Dalton > any QB to step foot on this campus. Look at the record books and tune into the NFL on Sundays. :D

[ktCarl]

No sir. Both went to state, but neither won.

Not in my book. Dalton > any QB to step foot on this campus. Look at the record books and tune into the NFL on Sundays. :D


I meant led the team to a State Final.

NFL doesn't count. Results for Katy Tigers is the subject matter. You lose 10 points for day dreaming.

[BlakeJ]

I made a comment about softball and you and Haack and it was destroyed. Yours survives. :eek:

I replied...and mine was destroyed.

[BlakeJ]

I meant led the team to a State Final.

NFL doesn't count. Results for Katy Tigers is the subject matter. You lose 10 points for day dreaming.

Haack as a sophmore was the starting QB vs. New Braunfels and Abilene in 2009.

[jc84chill]

At least you're aware that Maxtor's scenarios are stupid.

I think it's funny that the whole theme of my opinion is that Haack was a bit overrated. It's like I said he sucked.

We know what you mean.

To be honest, I expected a lot more of this kind of talk after the La Porte game and you just happened to be the first one to bring it up.

Brooks clearly saved his worst game in a Katy Tiger uniform for his last game as a Senior (he's not the only one). It's a really really unfortunate and harsh way for him to go out...he deserved so much better than to go out like that. I can't imagine how hard he's being on himself over the loss.

[jc84chill]

Haack as a sophmore was the starting QB vs. New Braunfels and Abilene in 2009.

And came in, in the 2nd half to help us do something on offense against Clear Springs in the regional final. Not a guarantee we get to State without making the move at quarterback, so I count it as Brooks leading the team to a final.

[dada]

And came in, in the 2nd half to help us do something on offense against Clear Springs in the regional final. Not a guarantee we get to State without making the move at quarterback, so I count it as Brooks leading the team to a final.

The QB Haack replaced is now a S/OLB at North Texas......imagine him and Holl in the same defensive backfield.

[ray1301]

Any firm rumors about pre-district line-up for 2012-2013? What about the district re-alignment? UIL gonna change anything for 19-5A?

[dada]

Any firm rumors about pre-district line-up for 2012-2013? What about the district re-alignment? UIL gonna change anything for 19-5A?

Nothing.......besides Klein in non-district
Should be fun with Dawson and Manville moving up.....maybe Manville....heard they did some crazy stuff after beating our freshman team.

[Leave it on the field]

Any firm rumors about pre-district line-up for 2012-2013? What about the district re-alignment? UIL gonna change anything for 19-5A?

I don't know how firm, but the talk is that SBM and SJ out (2 of the Fort Bend schools going 4A) and A&M Consolidated and Bryan in.

[dada]

I don't know how firm, but the talk is that SBM and SJ out (2 of the Fort Bend schools going 4A) and A&M Consolidated and Bryan in.

In District????? That would be cool.

[Leave it on the field]

In District????? That would be cool.

Yes, in district...from what I was told

[dada]

Yes, in district...from what I was told

Hope that happens.

[Leave it on the field]

What do you think about going back to just the KISD schools and giving KHS a chance to schedule 2 more strong teams. Everyone seems to think the lack of comp as being the major factor in the early (if one calls 4 and 3 rounds early) PO exits.

[dada]

What do you think about going back to just the KISD schools and giving KHS a chance to schedule 2 more strong teams. Everyone seems to think the lack of comp as being the major factor in the early (if one calls 4 and 3 rounds early) PO exits.

I would go for that too...having 5 non-district games if you can't add two decent teams to district.

[ktCarl]

Haack as a sophmore was the starting QB vs. New Braunfels and Abilene in 2009.

But Stock led the Tigers most of the way. I was prepared for these lame come backs. :yes:

[ktCarl]

I would go for that too...having 5 non-district games if you can't add two decent teams to district.

Just make sure and keep SB Memorial on the schedule.

[jc84chill]

Any firm rumors about pre-district line-up for 2012-2013? What about the district re-alignment? UIL gonna change anything for 19-5A?

I don't know how firm, but the talk is that SBM and SJ out (2 of the Fort Bend schools going 4A) and A&M Consolidated and Bryan in.

In District????? That would be cool.

SBM and SJ are out of the KISD district either this go around or 2014. This is a very real possibility if they do, in fact, move out this time around.

Consolidated and Bryan need a home this realignment with Killeen and Waco Midway moving up to take their places in District 12. We were speculating our district or The Woodlands' district (w/ Lufkin moving back to ETX).

[ktCarl]

And came in, in the 2nd half to help us do something on offense against Clear Springs in the regional final. Not a guarantee we get to State without making the move at quarterback, so I count it as Brooks leading the team to a final.

That's a lame homer come back. I expected more from you. :D

[jc84chill]

And came in, in the 2nd half to help us do something on offense against Clear Springs in the regional final. Not a guarantee we get to State without making the move at quarterback, so I count it as Brooks leading the team to a final.

But Stock led the Tigers most of the way. I was prepared for these lame come backs. :yes:

Touche my friend, and I was ready for your lame comeback to our lame comebacks (see bold red). :D

[jc84chill]

That's a lame homer come back. I expected more from you. :D

In all seriousness, you, me, the coaches, don't make that kind of move at quarterback in the middle of a regional final unless you KNOW you've got a better option on the bench and getting to where you want to be as a team depends on it. In my book, Brooks deserves credit for leading the team to a state final in 2009.

[jc84chill]

What do you think about going back to just the KISD schools and giving KHS a chance to schedule 2 more strong teams. Everyone seems to think the lack of comp as being the major factor in the early (if one calls 4 and 3 rounds early) PO exits.

I actually would rather the flexibility of the extra non-district games to expose us to different types of teams. Having said that, Consolidated would be a good test each year, especially considering the former Cy Falls head man is there now.

[BlakeJ]

I think it's funny how an 18 year old kid can go from the town star and savoir to a zero that fast. The Katy Tigers QB'd by Brooks Haack won 27 games...yet 1 loss makes him overrated.

[dada]

I LOST MY SUPER POWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

Where is the Kryptonite?

[ktCarl]

I actually would rather the flexibility of the extra non-district games to expose us to different types of teams. Having said that, Consolidated would be a good test each year, especially considering the former Cy Falls head man is there now.

Klein/Cy-someone/Spring Dekaney.

Klein/College Park/A&M Cons

Woodlands/Klein Collins/Hightower

How 'bout them apples?

[Leave it on the field]

I think it's funny how an 18 year old kid can go from the town star and savoir to a zero that fast. The Katy Tigers QB'd by Brooks Haack won 27 games...yet 1 loss makes him overrated.

No kidding...good luck to the next guy. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

"No pressure kid, but if you don't win state..."

[jc84chill]

I think it's funny how an 18 year old kid can go from the town star and savoir to a zero that fast. The Katy Tigers QB'd by Brooks Haack won 27 games...yet 1 loss makes him overrated.

For the love of all things South Dakota and Jacob Tamme, you're overreacting a lil bit.

[jc84chill]

Klein/Cy-someone/Spring Dekaney.

Klein/College Park/A&M Cons

Woodlands/Klein Collins/Hightower

How 'bout them apples?

Well, the idea is that you'd do your best to avoid scheduling someone you might see early in the playoffs. Post realignment, if we're still looking at Cy Fair ISD in the 2nd round, that would eliminate them.

So your Woods/KC/Hightower group would be about as good as you can do in this area as far as difficulty and avoiding early playoff opponents.

[BlakeJ]

For the love of all things South Dakota and Jacob Tamme, you're overreacting a lil bit.

Im just saying....3 weeks ago noone would have dared enter a Katy Tiger thread and say a single bad word about Brooks Haack. Now that the Tigers have lost and Brooks is off to college, he's lost his untouchable status. :)

[ThEgReAtOnE]

PS....Carl if I'm like Maxtor and his stupid scenarios...you're like TGO and his worthless rankings. :D

Worthless rankings or not, your vested interests are very apparent. Fact is I watched Parker Ray lead a 7-3 Katy team to a State Title win. Was it pretty? Nope! However, here's the truth...

vs Abilene (2009) = 198 yds/1 td (59% comp pct/LOSS)
vs Pearland (2010) = 121 yds/1 td/1 int (41% comp pct/LOSS)
vs La Porte (2011) = 88 yds/1 td/1 int (26% comp pct/LOSS)

... you can't erase those facts! I'd say those were the 3 toughest opponents Katy has faced, since the Title game vs Wylie (2008). Haack simply struggled when it came time to play in big playoff games. He will have to overcome that in college (ULL).

Ranking the Katy QB's that I've seen (since 2004)...

1. Andy Dalton (2004-2005) - Who the hell completes 80% of their passes on 15k yds... in HS... running a pro-typical offense? LTGO loves this dude!!!!

2. Bo Levi Mitchell (2006-2007) - I saw the dude throw a 60-yd beautiful bomb INTO THE WIND vs Pasadena Memorial (their best team, ever).. STUD!!!!

3. Brooks Haack (2009-2011) - the kid had a ton of weight on his shoulders, as most people thought he projected to be a truly great one... he did very well, but his big-game-play was suspect.

4. Parker Ray (2008) - That 2008 team was all about Jeffries, Webber, and Jeffery and the defense getting hot... more than Ray who simply managed - he completed like 40% of his passes in the Wylie game... didn't know that, even though I was at the game.

No offense to Ray, I just never really considered the passing game for the 2008 team. I was more focused on JJ-DUb puttin' in work on the ground! Ray and Mitchell led Katy to championships, though. And as someone said... Dalton didn't... but he's doing just fine.

Here's a question: ULL is in the Sun Belt Conference. Do you just throw Haack into the fire or bring him along, carefully? (It's not like he's going to the SEC.) I say throw him into a pro-typical offense and let him develop. Kinda like Andy Dalton did at TCU!

[ktCarl]

Well, the idea is that you'd do your best to avoid scheduling someone you might see early in the playoffs. Post realignment, if we're still looking at Cy Fair ISD in the 2nd round, that would eliminate them.

So your Woods/KC/Hightower group would be about as good as you can do in this area as far as difficulty and avoiding early playoff opponents.

Pick the D1 Cy-schools.

Another reason I pick those teams is that we wouldn't have to travel far.

[jc84chill]

Another thing to consider re: realignment...

If Consolidated and Bryan replace Strake and Memorial, the new reported district enrollments would look like this.

1. Seven Lakes - 3675
2. Morton Ranch - 3156
3. Cinco Ranch - 3048
4. Katy - 2784
5. Taylor - 2761
6. Mayde Creek - 2682
7. A&M Consolidated - 2577
8. Bryan - 2400.5

Katy remains the 4th largest in the district, Consolidated replaces Memorial as the small school that makes playoffs every year and I think Bryan would be more competitive than Strake on a yearly basis. IMO, this slightly moves the needle toward Katy being more likely to go D1 vs. D2 (not a lot though).

[dada]

Pick the D1 Cy-schools.

Another reason I pick those teams is that we wouldn't have to travel far.

Well...we wont know who's D1 until playoff time lol

[ktCarl]

Im just saying....3 weeks ago noone would have dared enter a Katy Tiger thread and say a single bad word about Brooks Haack. Now that the Tigers have lost and Brooks is off to college, he's lost his untouchable status. :)

Can anyone say....softball? :yes:

[ktCarl]

Well...we wont know who's D1 until playoff time lol

Love your new avatar!!!!!

[dada]

Worthless rankings or not, your vested interests are very apparent. Fact is I watched Parker Ray lead a 7-3 Katy team to a State Title win. Was it pretty? Nope! However, here's the truth...

vs Abilene (2009) = 198 yds/1 td (59% comp pct/LOSS)
vs Pearland (2010) = 121 yds/1 td/1 int (41% comp pct/LOSS)
vs La Porte (2011) = 88 yds/1 td/1 int (26% comp pct/LOSS)

... you can't erase those facts! I'd say those were the 3 toughest opponents Katy has faced, since the Title game vs Wylie (2008). Haack simply struggled when it came time to play in big playoff games. He will have to overcome that in college (ULL).

Ranking the Katy QB's that I've seen (since 2004)...

1. Andy Dalton (2004-2005) - Who the hell completes 80% of their passes on 15k yds... in HS... running a pro-typical offense? LTGO loves this dude!!!!

2. Bo Levi Mitchell (2006-2007) - I saw the dude throw a 60-yd beautiful bomb INTO THE WIND vs Pasadena Memorial (their best team, ever).. STUD!!!!

3. Brooks Haack (2009-2011) - the kid had a ton of weight on his shoulders, as most people thought he projected to be a truly great one... he did very well, but his big-game-play was suspect.

4. Parker Ray (2008) - That 2008 team was all about Jeffries, Webber, and Jeffery and the defense getting hot... more than Ray who simply managed - he completed like 40% of his passes in the Wylie game... didn't know that, even though I was at the game.

No offense to Ray, I just never really considered the passing game for the 2008 team. I was more focused on JJ-DUb puttin' in work on the ground! Ray and Mitchell led Katy to championships, though. And as someone said... Dalton didn't... but he's doing just fine.

Here's a question: ULL is in the Sun Belt Conference. Do you just throw Haack into the fire or bring him along, carefully? (It's not like he's going to the SEC.) I say throw him into a pro-typical offense and let him develop. Kinda like Andy Dalton did at TCU!

I'm DEFINATELY not ready to pull the "Chokes in big games" card Haack had nothing to do with those losses....he did what HE was supposed to do in the Abilene and Pearland games...and well....we all SAW the LP game. Haack didnt return to a title game now he's over rated and can't win the big game.....this is crazy. If anything, he didnt live up to the expectations that Katy Nation put on him since he made his Varsity Debut as a freshman.

[dada]

Love your new avatar!!!!!

if only it was red!

[dada]

Haack lost 3 games as a starter....State game in 09 with a make shift Oline......Pearland and La Porte.....2 of his 3 loses where to State Champions....He wasnt asked to tackle the Simms....and I'm pretty sure he didnt give up 38 to Pearland. Now we're saying the same thing we called The 300 a "hater" for saying.

[jc84chill]

Worthless rankings or not, your vested interests are very apparent. Fact is I watched Parker Ray lead a 7-3 Katy team to a State Title win. Was it pretty? Nope! However, here's the truth...

Just gonna go ahead and nip this in the bud. You and BlakeJ save your special "thing" for each other for the main board. I think I speak for everyone, none of us want to read it here.

Also, respectfully, we've discussed the whole Brooks Haack thing with you multiple times on the main board and would rather leave it there as well. We know what you think and where you're going with your arguments.

Regarding the ULL, I'd think he can come in and compete right away. Granted, I haven't researched the current QB situation at ULL, but Brooks has proven his ability to punch above his weight at a younger age than those around him.

[jc84chill]

if only it was red!

Did someone make that for you? Or was it a Google find?

[dada]

Did someone make that for you? Or was it a Google find?

Google Find....lol I was bored.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

I'm DEFINATELY not ready to pull the "Chokes in big games" card Haack had nothing to do with those losses....he did what HE was supposed to do in the Abilene and Pearland games...and well....we all SAW the LP game. Haack didnt return to a title game now he's over rated and can't win the big game.....this is crazy. If anything, he didnt live up to the expectations that Katy Nation put on him since he made his Varsity Debut as a freshman.

I'm not calling the kid a choke-artist... I'm saying he didn't have good or great games vs Abilene, Pearland, or La Porte. He combined for a 33% comp pct vs Pearland/La Porte. That's not good. That's below average. He may blow us away in college, though. Who knows?

[dada]

I'm not calling the kid a choke-artist... I'm saying he didn't have good or great games vs Abilene, Pearland, or La Porte. He combined for a 33% comp pct vs Pearland/La Porte. That's not good. That's below average. He may blow us away in college, though. Who knows?

Good enough to score enough points to win.....except in the LP game.....Just dont see the QB being the reason Katy lost to Abilene and Pearland. In Abilene you had a Soph making his 2nd Varsity start missing key OL and his favorite Target TE.

[rwilleby]

I think it's funny how an 18 year old kid can go from the town star and savoir to a zero that fast. The Katy Tigers QB'd by Brooks Haack won 27 games...yet 1 loss makes him overrated.

Overrated puts him in the category with Andy Dalton and Bo Levi Mitchell... Not bad company for an overrated, washed up, has been... Brooks did a good job as Katy's QB... I believe they call it a team effort, players and coaches... Offense, defense and special teams...

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Just gonna go ahead and nip this in the bud. You and BlakeJ save your special "thing" for each other for the main board. I think I speak for everyone, none of us want to read it here.

Also, respectfully, we've discussed the whole Brooks Haack thing with you multiple times on the main board and would rather leave it there as well. We know what you think and where you're going with your arguments.

Regarding the ULL, I'd think he can come in and compete right away. Granted, I haven't researched the current QB situation at ULL, but Brooks has proven his ability to punch above his weight at a younger age than those around him.

Wut? C'mon.. is that whole "special thing" supposed to be a joke? That dude is a weird psychopath. He's creepy as hell and infatuated with me... of all the people in the world. We don't have "any special thing" other than me looking over my shoulder, when I'm at a restaurant, and this dude following me from thread to thread and instigating interaction.

When did you discuss something about Haack, with me, on the main Board? Oh, well... it doesn't matter. I was simply viewing the thread and saw a debate (of interest) already at play (being allowed). I also saw my stalker mention my username for the gazillionth time... thus I responded.

Moving on..

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Good enough to score enough points to win.....except in the LP game.....Just dont see the QB being the reason Katy lost to Abilene and Pearland. In Abilene you had a Soph making his 2nd Varsity start missing key OL and his favorite Target TE.

Got news for you... Abilene was gonna win that game, either way. :D I think we all saw the writing on the wall, there. Katy would challenge, but Abilene was certainly a monster... that year. S2 went ham on everyone!

[dada]

Got news for you... Abilene was gonna win that game, either way. :D I think we all saw the writing on the wall, there. Katy would challenge, but Abilene was certainly a monster... that year. S2 went ham on everyone!

Maybe so.....But at any other school Haack is a great QB....at Katy he's an "Underachiever"......Katy folk and their dang expectations...lol

FWIW....Katy contained S2 for two quarters.....but the Katy offense went all "La Porte game" and the D ended up on the field too long. Sigh.......didnt think it would be this long getting back:(

[SLCbacker]

Are any of you guys coming up to the Southlake vs. Skyline game?

[ktCarl]

Are any of you guys coming up to the Southlake vs. Skyline game?

Only if you feed us and make us some hot chocolate. Is the game indoors? Not driving 8000 miles to sit in the cold when there's a Semi-Final in Reliant. Good luck to your Dragons, though. :D

[jc84chill]

I don't know how firm, but the talk is that SBM and SJ out (2 of the Fort Bend schools going 4A) and A&M Consolidated and Bryan in.

SBM and SJ are out of the KISD district either this go around or 2014. This is a very real possibility if they do, in fact, move out this time around.

Consolidated and Bryan need a home this realignment with Killeen and Waco Midway moving up to take their places in District 12. We were speculating our district or The Woodlands' district (w/ Lufkin moving back to ETX).

Another thing to consider re: realignment...

If Consolidated and Bryan replace Strake and Memorial, the new reported district enrollments would look like this.

1. Seven Lakes - 3675
2. Morton Ranch - 3156
3. Cinco Ranch - 3048
4. Katy - 2784
5. Taylor - 2761
6. Mayde Creek - 2682
7. A&M Consolidated - 2577
8. Bryan - 2400.5

Katy remains the 4th largest in the district, Consolidated replaces Memorial as the small school that makes playoffs every year and I think Bryan would be more competitive than Strake on a yearly basis. IMO, this slightly moves the needle toward Katy being more likely to go D1 vs. D2 (not a lot though).

The more I think about it and talk to Champ, the less likely I think Consolidated and Bryan would move into our district.

Another thing we have to consider is number of teams in each region (I wasn't thinking about this earlier). Region 2 is already going to be short on teams compared to the other regions, so it makes more sense for them to stay in Region 2 and go into The Woodlands' district.

As far as SBM and Strake moving into Fort Bend. Doesn't seem too logical for the UIL to fill 23-5A back up to a 10 team district once they get it down to 8 (more of a normal #). Geographically, that makes sense, but the UIL shows no regard for geography at times. :)

[jc84chill]

Are any of you guys coming up to the Southlake vs. Skyline game?

Will probably have to settle with video of this one. Would love to see it live though. We're looking at PAM vs. Steele at Reliant.

[ktCarl]

O.K., let me close the book on Haack since I started it.


Instead let's talk about the punter this season. Not very good.

[cougmantx]

O.K., let me close the book on Haack since I started it.


Instead let's talk about the punter this season. Not very good.

LOL...you really took this loss hard didn't you...:D

[twcpfan1]

O.K., let me close the book on Haack since I started it.


Instead let's talk about the punter this season. Not very good.



You need to go all the way to Australia to recruit those.

[ktCarl]

You need to go all the way to Australia to recruit those.

We'll put Dada on it right away.

[ktchamp97]

In regards to Brooks' career at Katy...

Using the Abilene game against him is beyond comical. He was a freaking sophomore in his second ever start in a State Championship game. Without his performance, we get humiliated in that one.

In the Pearland game, Haack led a go-ahead touchdown drive and thew a touchdown pass with just over a minute to play. The week before, he threw the game-winning TD pass against North Shore.

Haack had a great game against Cy Woods too. Without his performance there, we are done in Round 2. Yes, he had a poor game against La Porte, but so did a bunch of people. How many throws did he miss with a clean pocket or when he wasn't under duress or on the move? The QB is such an easy target because he's the guy you can see, he always touches the ball, and you can easily track his stats. There are many things that affect a QB's performance both positively and negatively. It's not nearly as easy as just looking at Wins/Losses.

For me, Haack is easily one of the best QB's we've had and that's saying something. The only way he's overrated is if you had unrealistic expectations for him in the first place.

[Leave it on the field]

The only way he's overrated is if you had unrealistic expectations for him in the first place.

You are from Katy...right?

[SBBear]

Wanted to jump into the discussion, my thoughts are that a kid that lost 3 games in 3 years (all late playoff games) can not be thought of as overrated. In nearly 20 years of watching Katy football (more if i go back to my high school days when the country school and it's cousin was let into my SB district) Haak as a pure QB ranks only behind Dalton in that regard. May be slightly better at this point as a Sr. High schooler, however we all know where Dalton is now. He has shown the ability to make all of the throws and was a very good leader for this team.
Last years game against Pearland as Champ pointed out was ours for the taking after a Haak led TD drive. Katy still had a chance with one more drive, but with TO's left and Pealand only dreaming of stopping DY, play calling was an issue. Same thing in La Porte game, I felt the coaches called plays directly into LP's hands, Play Action against 8 and 9 man front run blitzing every gap left Haak scrambling for his life for the most part on the slow developing plays. Bubble screens, quick flares, the post to JT, all would have worked against the defense LP was showing, however only saw 1 quick pass for ~ 8 yards.
Much has been said in regards to Katy's schedule in that it doesnt challenge them for the playoffs as a team, I think in that respect it also doesnt challenge the coaches as they never had to run 2 minute drill or play from behind very much so maybe didnt know what to call in those situations. When Katy scheduled NS, WB, and even Alief all were playoff teams and much history, so they looked like good challenges at the time they were scheduled, as it turned out they were not even close. That says a lot about Katy as well as all made playoffs in these years and last year NS was a much better team by the end of the year. Anyway just wanted to weigh in on this subject and believe Haak has been a much better than average QB and look forward to seeing how he does in college and possibly beyond.

[ktCarl]

In regards to Brooks' career at Katy...

Using the Abilene game against him is beyond comical. He was a freaking sophomore in his second ever start in a State Championship game. Without his performance, we get humiliated in that one.

In the Pearland game, Haack led a go-ahead touchdown drive and thew a touchdown pass with just over a minute to play. The week before, he threw the game-winning TD pass against North Shore.

Haack had a great game against Cy Woods too. Without his performance there, we are done in Round 2. Yes, he had a poor game against La Porte, but so did a bunch of people. How many throws did he miss with a clean pocket or when he wasn't under duress or on the move? The QB is such an easy target because he's the guy you can see, he always touches the ball, and you can easily track his stats. There are many things that affect a QB's performance both positively and negatively. It's not nearly as easy as just looking at Wins/Losses.

For me, Haack is easily one of the best QB's we've had and that's saying something. The only way he's overrated is if you had unrealistic expectations for him in the first place.

Way too late for you to make an impact on the subject. We've moved on to punters. :D

[SLCbacker]

Will probably have to settle with video of this one. Would love to see it live though. We're looking at PAM vs. Steele at Reliant.

alright. We'll catch you guys on the 17th at Jerry World!

[ktchamp97]

Way too late for you to make an impact on the subject. We've moved on to punters. :DI figured as much. Just couldn't help but throw in my thoughts.

Yeah, we could use a true, dedicated punter.

[twcpfan1]

alright. We'll catch you guys on the 17th at Jerry World!


Who will you be pulling for? Skyline or Hightower?

[KT2000]

Wanted to jump into the discussion, my thoughts are that a kid that lost 3 games in 3 years (all late playoff games) can not be thought of as overrated. In nearly 20 years of watching Katy football (more if i go back to my high school days when the country school and it's cousin was let into my SB district) Haack as a pure QB ranks only behind Dalton in that regard.

Haack never had the luxury of running as open of an offense as Jared Kaspar, Andy Dalton and Bo Levi Mitchell. Katy didn't have the surrounding cast in Haack's junior or senior year. The 2010 team was heavily run-geared and did not have enough receivers to line up in hardly anything beyond two wide. The 2011 team found Fulks to compliment Thompson, but the team was still severely limited formation wise.

The closest Haack got to enjoying the type of freedom other Katy QBs had was the game against Abilene when the Tigers were playing keep up. Katy had no choice but to open the offense with a banged up line coupled with Abilene's four quarter lead.

Kaspar, Dalton and Mitchell all enjoyed much more well-rounded offenses. Ideally, Haack was best suited to pass from the spread in my opinion. He looked the most comfortable to me in clock situations when the tempo picked up. The interception against Cy Woods was the first real mistake I'd ever seen him make in the quick offense. I think he'll be well suited for a high tempo, quick distribution spread game in college. Haack didn't have much to do with the endings in the Pearland and La Porte games. I didn't think the offense (as designed) helped him at all in either scenario because Katy was incapable of spreading the field last year and this year. Katy had 2 WRs trying to get open against defenses dropping 6 to 8 in coverage in both end game scenarios.

In general, I thought the Katy offense was too slow to develop for Haack and ultimately ended up playing too much to his weaknesses (all three of his final INTs were moves to the left and late as he was waiting for something to open). He's exactly the type of QB you want to speed things up and spread things out for. Katy, being heavily run oriented last year and very limited this year, never managed to play to his real strengths in my opinion.

[dada]

John Curtis is on Twitter looking to make a game with Katy.......powers that be.....make it happen.

[ktchamp97]

John Curtis is on Twitter looking to make a game with Katy.......powers that be.....make it happen.
Not a fan of the interstate matchups. Having Bellevue come down was cool, but that should be the end of it. There are way too many potential challenging opponents here in Texas that we could play without all of the national hoopla.

Give me Lake Travis, Trinity, and The Woodlands in non-district. We'll sure as heck have our weaknesses exposed by the time we got through with that!

[ray1301]

Not a fan of the interstate matchups. Having Bellevue come down was cool, but that should be the end of it. There are way too many potential challenging opponents here in Texas that we could play without all of the national hoopla.

Give me Lake Travis, Trinity, and The Woodlands in non-district. We'll sure as heck have our weaknesses exposed by the time we got through with that!


Amen brother, nothing like starting off either 1-2 or 0-3

How about Skyline, Desoto, and The Woodlands? Let's make it a R2 sweep

[ktCarl]

Not a fan of the interstate matchups. Having Bellevue come down was cool, but that should be the end of it. There are way too many potential challenging opponents here in Texas that we could play without all of the national hoopla.

Give me Lake Travis, Trinity, and The Woodlands in non-district. We'll sure as heck have our weaknesses exposed by the time we got through with that!

Katy 2011 in 21-5A would have been 4-2...maybe 3-3. Channelview was tough. :cool:

[ktchamp97]

Amen brother, nothing like starting off either 1-2 or 0-3

How about Skyline, Desoto, and The Woodlands? Let's make it a R2 sweep
I'd rather be 1-2 or 0-3 and know exactly where we needed to get better as opposed to being 3-0 and having learned very little.

[BlakeJ]

Katy 2011 in 21-5A would have been 4-2...maybe 3-3. Channelview was tough. :cool:

You're such a bad kidder.

[jc84chill]

Katy 2011 in 21-5A would have been 4-2...maybe 3-3. Channelview was tough. :cool:

If we played the whole 21-5A district schedule on November 26th, 2011, you may be right. :)

[Super B]

John Curtis is on Twitter looking to make a game with Katy.......powers that be.....make it happen.
Why would Katy waste their time with John Curtis?

[Super B]

Not a fan of the interstate matchups. Having Bellevue come down was cool, but that should be the end of it. There are way too many potential challenging opponents here in Texas that we could play without all of the national hoopla.

Give me Lake Travis, Trinity, and The Woodlands in non-district. We'll sure as heck have our weaknesses exposed by the time we got through with that!
I'd love to see the Trinity Katy home and home or neutral site series happen.

I think all the major 5A powerhouse teams fans want a piece of Lake Travis.

LT has not scheduled any of those teams in the past (Austin Westlake doesn't count), ao I can't assume they will right off the bat try to schedule them the first few years in 5A. Either way, they will be Division 2, as will Katy (most likely), so it's just a matter of being patient until the State Final, ***uming both make it that far.

[ray1301]

I'd rather be 1-2 or 0-3 and know exactly where we needed to get better as opposed to being 3-0 and having learned very little.

I wasn't being facetious. I firmly believe that the test of the team is in the early part of the season and gives time for adjustments.

[twcpfan1]

I'd love to see the Trinity Katy home and home or neutral site series happen.

I think all the major 5A powerhouse teams fans want a piece of Lake Travis.

LT has not scheduled any of those teams in the past (Austin Westlake doesn't count), ao I can't assume they will right off the bat try to schedule them the first few years in 5A. Either way, they will be Division 2, as will Katy (most likely), so it's just a matter of being patient until the State Final, ***uming both make it that far.

Austin Westlake doesn't count? They came close to winning the title 2 years ago (LT played them that year) and they're a past state champ. So if they play Allen, they don't count either? I'm pretty sure the LT air attack will shred Trinity by 21 or more given your weaknesses. Get off whatever you're smoking.

[BlakeJ]

Austin Westlake doesn't count? They came close to winning the title 2 years ago (LT played them that year) and they're a past state champ. So if they play Allen, they don't count either? I'm pretty sure the LT air attack will shred Trinity by 21 or more given your weaknesses. Get off whatever you're smoking.

You just give no respect for any good programs do you? I've always said it. Twcpfan is equivalent to an Orioles fan. Bitter that his team has always been doo doo and insists the Yankees arent as good as people think. The evil empire!!!!

[twcpfan1]

You just give no respect for any good programs do you? I've always said it. Twcpfan is equivalent to an Orioles fan. Bitter that his team has always been doo doo and insists the Yankees arent as good as people think. The evil empire!!!!

Dude, shut up.

Nobody's interested

[Super B]

Austin Westlake doesn't count? They came close to winning the title 2 years ago (LT played them that year) and they're a past state champ. So if they play Allen, they don't count either? I'm pretty sure the LT air attack will shred Trinity by 21 or more given your weaknesses. Get off whatever you're smoking.
Correct.

Austin Westlake
Year / Record / Playoff round exit
2007 7-4 1st round
2008 9-5 Quarter-Finals
2009 13-3 State Finals
2010 6-5 1st round
2011 9-3 2nd round

Two good playoff runs in five year is NOT a major 5A powerhouse. In 2008 & 2009 they were in Region 4 as well. You see what happened when they moved to Region 2. Also, saying they are a past state champ doesn't mean anything. Duncanville is a past state champ too and no one would dare to call them a powerhouse. BTW Duncanville title was more recent than Westlakes. I'd take Duncanville over Westlake if they played this year. Will you accept that, or do I have to break out a comparison with Trinity, Katy & Allen?

As for you cute little comment about Lake Travis beating Trinity by 21, that just shows how incredible ignorant you are. Crawl back in your hole.

[twcpfan1]

Correct.

Austin Westlake
Year / Record / Playoff round exit
2007 7-4 1st round
2008 9-5 Quarter-Finals
2009 13-3 State Finals
2010 6-5 1st round
2011 9-3 2nd round

Two good playoff runs in five year is NOT a major 5A powerhouse. In 2008 & 2009 they were in Region 4 as well. You see what happened when they moved to Region 2. Also, saying they are a past state champ doesn't mean anything. Duncanville is a past state champ too and no one would dare to call them a powerhouse. BTW Duncanville title was more recent than Westlakes. I'd take Duncanville over Westlake if they played this year. Will you accept that, or do I have to break out a comparison with Trinity, Katy & Allen?

As for you cute little comment about Lake Travis beating Trinity by 21, that just shows how incredible ignorant you are. Crawl back in your hole.

I don't think Trinity's defense will keep up. If you struggle against teams like Colleyville, it's fair to assume that Lake Travis will do the same and much more given they're in a completely different stratosphere to CHHS offensively. Bad matchup for Euless IMO. Allen's not that good when you consider they have a million kids in their program.

[Austin109]

Westlake winning a championship in 1996 (I was 8) isn't the same as a team who has won 3 titles the last 6 years. ET, Katy, SLC still, and Steele soon could make claims as being the major powers with recent and multiple state titles.

LT will be an instant contender but I don't see them having the same margin of success that they have enjoyed for so long.

Tyler Lee was a state champion in 2004 and I wouldn't consider them a power. Midland Lee was a champion in 2000 and I wouldn't consider them a power. Cedar Hill. Judson. North shore.

Strong teams. But not in the same caliber as the ET's of the world.

[twcpfan1]

Westlake winning a championship in 1996 (I was 8) isn't the same as a team who has won 3 titles the last 6 years. ET, Katy, SLC still, and Steele soon could make claims as being the major powers with recent and multiple state titles.

LT will be an instant contender but I don't see them having the same margin of success that they have enjoyed for so long.

Tyler Lee was a state champion in 2004 and I wouldn't consider them a power. Midland Lee was a champion in 2001 and I wouldn't consider them a power. Cedar Hill. Judson. North shore.

Strong teams. But not in the same caliber as the ET's of the world.

So the 4 state championship Lake Travis teams would have lost to Trinity, SLC and Katy in that time period?

I doubt that. The only team that could have hung is the 07 Katy team

[KT2000]

I've started to look at teams with an eye on next year, and I took a post-season look at Katy earlier this morning.

Running back will be the undisputed strength of team health permitting. Katy will be three-deep at the position with significant varsity experience. Fullback and tight end should fill out the depth chart also. Quarterback and receiver are the big holes to fill. Huddleston, last year's JV QB, is a baseball player so it'll be interesting to see who's taking the Spring snaps (I still like my Wildcat idea with Anderson :D ). Katy has a few seniors-to-be with Fulks at WR, but none played signifcant roles last year. Englett has the most experience after Fulks. Katy has three seniors to build around up front in Sowell, Lopez and Diehr. The incoming junior class has five players who moved up for the playoffs after starting on the undefeated soph/JV squads.

The defense returns six players with significant down experience. Matt Dimon, Jake Blomstrom, Isaiah Brown and Quinn Atwood will be leaders. Cody Gessler (Jr. NG) and Carson Strickler (Sr. OLB) stepped in and played well when starters were banged up. Cole Barry (Sr. LB) was a special teams ace. The big tasks will be to find a partner for Blomstrom and two new secondary starters. Junior Tanner Ebrecht could step in at safety, or rotate with Strickler at Drop.

Depth wise, the most interesting area is offensive line with that group of juniors-to-be. The Tigers will be looking for that group to develop this off-season and give next year's team a chance at having genuine numbers for a change. Katy hasn't had a strong depth situation on the OL since 2008.

[Austin109]

So the 4 state championship Lake Travis teams would have lost to Trinity, SLC and Katy in that time period?

I doubt that. The only team that could have hung is the 07 Katy team

In 2007 I expect Katy and Trinity would've throttled them. Bad match up for LT.

In 2008 I expect Trinity would've beaten them and Katy would've gotten stomped. This is due to Trinitys line vs the LT line. Katy couldn't stop the vertical passing threat teams early in the year but beat a strong vert team out of Wylie. I'd expect LT to be a good one but overall LT would get the nod.

2009 are we talking pre or post depleted offense Katy? Pre-loss of O-line + TE in the state game I'd pick Katy in a tight one. If we played them the same as we had to in the state game I'd pick Travis. Trinitys DBs had problems vs Westlakes spread would've gotten burned vs LT so I'd go with LT over them. Trinity would be a tough game though with their run game as dominant as it was but the lack of balance would be the big question mark for me in that game.

2010 I'd pick Katy over them in a heart beat. No question in my mind simply because the run game was THAT dominant. If not for a couple of key injuries and 1 significant match up late in the game vs Pearland and it may well have been Katy v. Trinity. IMO Trinity would've been a very interesting match up. Stop Brandon Carter that year and you stop Trinity. That one depends on the play of the LT LB's and how close they are willing to pull down their safeties. That sweep misdirection series was deadly. They were killing Pearland every time they ran it but they got away from it. That would've been a good one.

2011 - LT over both.

To me its not a we win all the time perspective vs LT. But I do think that it would be a very close contest. LT would have a much tougher time vs the top 5a teams IMO.

[RocklandDragon]

Westlake winning a championship in 1996 (I was 8) isn't the same as a team who has won 3 titles the last 6 years. ET, Katy, SLC still, and Steele soon could make claims as being the major powers with recent and multiple state titles.

LT will be an instant contender but I don't see them having the same margin of success that they have enjoyed for so long.

Tyler Lee was a state champion in 2004 and I wouldn't consider them a power. Midland Lee was a champion in 2001 and I wouldn't consider them a power. Cedar Hill. Judson. North shore.

Strong teams. But not in the same caliber as the ET's of the world.


Midland Lee won the state title in 1998, 1999, and 2000. During that time, Lee was a power and had solid runs. Made the playoffs every year between 1983-2009, except for two years. Cedric Benson was a key part but he did not build Lee from the ground up. They were a power then but have fallen off. Ever since 2002, they haven't had their success like they used to.

[Austin109]

So the 4 state championship Lake Travis teams would have lost to Trinity, SLC and Katy in that time period?

I doubt that. The only team that could have hung is the 07 Katy team

The 4 time state champion lost to a 7-4 Austin Westlake team in 2007.

[Austin109]

Midland Lee won the state title in 1998, 1999, and 2000. During that time, Lee was a power and had solid runs. Made the playoffs every year between 1983-2009, except for two years. Cedric Benson was a key part but he did not build Lee from the ground up. They were a power then but have fallen off. Ever since 2002, they haven't had their success like they used to.

Whoops. Will fix it back to 2000. I was referencing a championship team from a decade back. Point is made though. Being a title contender a decade ago doesn't put you in the elite category THIS year. Correct?

[twcpfan1]

The 4 time state champion lost to a 7-4 Austin Westlake team in 2007.

Yep. Katy probably would have beaten them too. 08,09 and last year?. I don't think so. Besides, I thought we were only talikng about the 'powerhouses'.

[Austin109]

Yep. Katy probably would have beaten them too. 08,09 and last year?. I don't think so. Besides, I thought we were only talikng about the 'powerhouses'.

Did you even read what I said? I picked LT over Katy in 2008. Only picked Katy in 2009 if they didn't play with a depleted offensive line and down a key TE position. Last year I believe Katy would've beaten LT. Yes.

You were the one who posted:

So the 4 state championship Lake Travis teams would have lost to Trinity, SLC and Katy in that time period?

I doubt that. The only team that could have hung is the 07 Katy team
I answered.

[twcpfan1]

Did you even read what I said? I picked LT over Katy in 2008. Only picked Katy in 2009 if they didn't play with a depleted offensive line and down a key TE position. Last year I believe Katy would've beaten LT. Yes.

You were the one who posted:


I answered.

Their ascension to their current level started in the post season of 2007 and they have not looked back since. The Aledo loss in 2010 was in a large part due to injuries. I think Katy probably would have beaten them in the playoffs in 2007 but I won't want to bet on it.

[Austin109]

Their ascension to their current level started in the post season of 2007 and they have not looked back since. The Aledo loss in 2010 was in a large part due to injuries. I think Katy probably would have beaten them in the playoffs in 2007 but I won't want to bet on it.
And thats your opinion on the matter.

[RocklandDragon]

Whoops. Will fix it back to 2000. Point is made though. Being a title contender a decade ago doesn't put you in the elite category THIS year. Correct?

This year, no, but your argument about being current powers is just that. Current. The Midland Lee argument is valid because it could change. Why isn't Permian considered elite anymore? What about Plano High? What about Converse Judson (and they have been to two state title games in 2005 and 2007)? Nothing is guaranteed about Steele being a big dog a few years from now. It is not. Nothing is guaranteed about Trinity being the kings of Region I, year in and year out. Nothing is even assured of Katy being the power of Region III. Southlake Carroll is learning how hard it is to return back to the State Semifinals after being gone for four years. The thing is that Allen, Dallas Skyline, Katy, Pearland, Longview, The Woodlands, Euless Trinity, and Southlake Carroll have solid programs. Programs that should challenge for a state title. Of course, being Elite doesn't even guarantee doo-doo. Euless Trinty and Katy lost. Steele still has two more games to win. I expect Trinity and Katy to have solid programs year in and out but it doesn't always stay that way. If it did, Abilene High wouldn't have had to wait 53 years to win another State Title after their three-peat from 1954-1956 (hell, they wouldn't have had to worry about breaking a 40 year playoff drought in 1999).

Back to the question that was posted. Lake Travis could be a winner in 5A and have an immediate impact like Southlake Carroll did. Obviously winning four state titles in 4A isn't something to sneeze at and I would consider them an elite program since they have won titles and beaten the likes of Westlake, Longview, 4A champion and perennial power of 4A Denton Ryan and the formentioned Steele and 5A title contender Smithson Valley.

But I digress, this is a Katy thread and Katy is elite because they have won lots of games plus titles and have done so for many years. Won a title in 1959 and began their beastly runs in 1992. They have won multiple 5A titles and are not just elite but are a legendary program like Permian, Plano, and Abilene because they have won lots of playoff games for 20 years in 5A. The Tigers just know how to win. I don't know how they are able to sustain such a great program in the ever growing Katy ISD, but they do and have done so magnificently and for a long time (what is it, three or four new high schools in KISD have opened up since their first 5A title in 1997? My goodness, that is almost unfathomable that they have done so well.)

[BlakeJ]

twcpfan...I just find it odd that you have a lack of respect for almost every elite program in 5a. Whether it be Katy, Trinity, SLC, etc. You never miss a chance to take shots at them. Beings that the program at CP is below average and not very good...I would think you would have a respect for the programs that are able to succeed every year and make runs like the elite programs do.

[twcpfan1]

twcpfan...I just find it odd that you have a lack of respect for almost every elite program in 5a. Whether it be Katy, Trinity, SLC, etc. You never miss a chance to take shots at them. Beings that the program at CP is below average and not very good...I would think you would have a respect for the programs that are able to succeed every year and make runs like the elite programs do.

what part of shut up did you not understand?

[twcpfan1]

And thats your opinion on the matter.

My opinion is there is no way Trinity, Katy or SLC beats LT in 08,09 and 2010.

[Kat-na-hat]

How many Katy fans care if we go D1 or D2?
How Many Katy fans care if College Park goes D1 or D2?
Are Trolls D1 or D2?

[twcpfan1]

How many Katy fans care if we go D1 or D2?
How Many Katy fans care if College Park goes D1 or D2?
Are Trolls D1 or D2?

Evidently, at least 2 Katy fans.

My initial post on the subject did not even mention Katy. Next thing you know... CP sucks.. blah blah.. troll.. blah blah..

But I suppose you might as well get yourselves into skirmishes online since you haven't sniffed the state playoffs the last 2 weeks and playing basketball just like TWCP.

[Kat-na-hat]

Evidently, at least 2 Katy fans.

My initial post on the subject did not even mention Katy.(Intent) Next thing you know... CP sucks.. blah blah.. troll.. blah blah..

But I suppose you might as well get yourselves into skirmishes online since you haven't sniffed the state playoffs the last 2 weeks and playing basketball just like TWCP. LOL


Well it is our TEAM Thread,:rolleyes: you have a different perspective on things and are the devils advocate in everything Katy. ;) blah blah blah. At times I enjoy what you post, so share your love with the Steele fans and twist the nightaway. Merry Christmas.

[twcpfan1]

LOL


Well it is our TEAM Thread,:rolleyes: you have a different perspective on things and are the devils advocate in everything Katy. ;) blah blah blah. At times I enjoy what you post, so share your love with the Steele fans and twist the nightaway. Merry Christmas.

Crap, if I knew more than the little I know about Steele, I might just do that. They're not as much fun to rile up so I'm hardly in their game threads. :)

Merry Christmas to you too.

[Kat-na-hat]

Crap, if I knew more than the little I know about Steele, I might just do that. They're not as much fun to rile up so I'm hardly in their game threads. :)

Merry Christmas to you too.


:):cool:

[ktchamp97]

One innocent comment about a potential non-district opponent and the thread goes to hell in a handbasket. Unreal.

PSA: If you're only going to address one poster and it doesn't contribute anything constructive to the board, use PM's...that's what they are for. The rest of us don't want to read that crap.

[dada]

told ya......all year "Why dont you Katy people post in your own thread....we get tired of Katy threads".....post in the Katy thread...and BOOM....same thing...lol

This board dies without Katy lol

[Leave it on the field]

I've started to look at teams with an eye on next year, and I took a post-season look at Katy earlier this morning.

Running back will be the undisputed strength of team health permitting. Katy will be three-deep at the position with significant varsity experience. Fullback and tight end should fill out the depth chart also. Quarterback and receiver are the big holes to fill. Huddleston, last year's JV QB, is a baseball player so it'll be interesting to see who's taking the Spring snaps (I still like my Wildcat idea with Anderson :D ). Katy has a few seniors-to-be with Fulks at WR, but none played signifcant roles last year. Englett has the most experience after Fulks. Katy has three seniors to build around up front in Sowell, Lopez and Diehr. The incoming junior class has five players who moved up for the playoffs after starting on the undefeated soph/JV squads.


The defense returns six players with significant down experience. Matt Dimon, Jake Blomstrom, Isaiah Brown and Quinn Atwood will be leaders. Cody Gessler (Jr. NG) and Carson Strickler (Sr. OLB) stepped in and played well when starters were banged up. Cole Barry (Sr. LB) was a special teams ace. The big tasks will be to find a partner for Blomstrom and two new secondary starters. Junior Tanner Ebrecht could step in at safety, or rotate with Strickler at Drop.

Depth wise, the most interesting area is offensive line with that group of juniors-to-be. The Tigers will be looking for that group to develop this off-season and give next year's team a chance at having genuine numbers for a change. Katy hasn't had a strong depth situation on the OL since 2008.


I think the OL will be fine anchored around Sowell. JR to be Brandon Dalton (no relation) will most likely be the center (5'10-~250 lbs). He looked very good on JV and is getting stronger. JR to be Sloan Spiller (6' 210) lbs (TE) was called up several times throughout the season and got in some games. He is strong and has very good hands. Logan Lister, other TE is a move in from CA, he will be JR (6’4” 220) lbs. Not as fast as one would want but can catch the ball. A Katy offseason will get him to where he needs to be strength wise. That would only leave 1 OL position that is a blank right now. The other WR is my big question, but we had the same question at this time last year. There are a couple that if they work hard can make a difference

The D has A LOT coming back. Three that you named were all-district as underclassmen and the other was 2nd team. I would think that Ebrecht would play the other corner. JR to be Timmy Wilkerson DE (6’3” 220 lbs) has a big opportunity this offseason to secure the starting job opposite Dimon. He has all the tools to be great. He WAS a basketball player last year. I think you hit on the OLB's. Whoever the NG is has big shoes to fill. Cory was a beast all year and kept Brown and Blomstrom clean all year. They may rotate more heavily at this position with Gessler, Jesse Brown (SO to be) and maybe Anthony Gambone (SR to be).

The position that needs to be seriously addressed is punter. I just can’t believe that out of 400 kids, nobody can punt more than 20 yards. It didn’t hurt us much in the regular season but sure reared its ugly head in the last game.

[BlakeJ]

My opinion is there is no way Trinity, Katy or SLC beats LT in 08,09 and 2010.

Until Lake Travis wins 2 or 3 5A titles then they'll suck and be overrated to. :yes:

[dada]

I think the OL will be fine anchored around Sowell. JR to be Brandon Dalton (no relation) will most likely be the center (5'10-~250 lbs). He looked very good on JV and is getting stronger. JR to be Sloan Spiller (6' 210) lbs (TE) was called up several times throughout the season and got in some games. He is strong and has very good hands. Logan Lister, other TE is a move in from CA, he will be JR (6’4” 220) lbs. Not as fast as one would want but can catch the ball. A Katy offseason will get him to where he needs to be strength wise. That would only leave 1 OL position that is a blank right now. The other WR is my big question, but we had the same question at this time last year. There are a couple that if they work hard can make a difference

The D has A LOT coming back. Three that you named were all-district as underclassmen and the other was 2nd team. I would think that Ebrecht would play the other corner. JR to be Timmy Wilkerson DE (6’3” 220 lbs) has a big opportunity this offseason to secure the starting job opposite Dimon. He has all the tools to be great. He WAS a basketball player last year. I think you hit on the OLB's. Whoever the NG is has big shoes to fill. Cory was a beast all year and kept Brown and Blomstrom clean all year. They may rotate more heavily at this position with Gessler, Jesse Brown (SO to be) and maybe Anthony Gambone (SR to be).

The position that needs to be seriously addressed is punter. I just can’t believe that out of 400 kids, nobody can punt more than 20 yards. It didn’t hurt us much in the regular season but sure reared its ugly head in the last game.

Any info on Lane Rodgers and Trey Dunn?

[BlakeJ]

Can you believe the 2011 season is already over. Brooks Haack and JT will soon be off to college and a new ERA will begin.

It seems like just yesterday that dada and I were sitting at Denny's with our families in San Antonio the day after a sophomore QB named Brooks Haack ducked Abilene pressure, almost fell, kept his composure and fired the ball to a small WR with no name on his back.

Katy Nation would eventually become used to the call "Pass complete Haack to Thompson" followed by some crazy bald dude leading a group of fans in a "1, 2, 3 First down" chant.

It seems like it wasn't very long ago that dada is telling me in Denny's "Losing sucks, but it doesn't hurt as bad knowing we get to watch Brooks Haack and Jordan Thompson for 2 more years."

Now it's over. :(

[dada]

Can you believe the 2011 season is already over. Brooks Haack and JT will soon be off to college and a new ERA will begin.

It seems like just yesterday that dada and I were sitting at Denny's with our families in San Antonio the day after a sophomore QB named Brooks Haack ducked Abilene pressure, almost fell, kept his composure and fired the ball to a small WR with no name on his back.

Katy Nation would eventually become used to the call "Pass complete Haack to Thompson" followed by some crazy bald dude leading a group of fans in a "1, 2, 3 First down" chant.

It seems like it wasn't very long ago that dada is telling me in Denny's "Losing sucks, but it doesn't hurt as bad knowing we get to watch Brooks Haack and Jordan Thompson for 2 more years."

Now it's over. :(
Time Flies! wow...that was two years ago.

[Leave it on the field]

Any info on Lane Rodgers and Trey Dunn?

Those are the 2 I was talking about. Both have all the tools and major up side. Rodgers is 6'2" and Dunn is 5"11". If they come along like I think they can it will open the deep ball for Fulks. Andy Coonrod could be another great option as a slot/possession reciever.

I just hope that if the running game projects like we think it will, that we won't go away from the pass like we did in '10.

[Kat-na-hat]

Those are the 2 I was talking about. Both have all the tools and major up side. Rodgers is 6'2" and Dunn is 5"11". If they come along like I think they can it will open the deep ball for Fulks. Andy Coonrod could be another great option as a slot/possession reciever.

I just hope that if the running game projects like we think it will, that we won't go away from the pass like we did in '10.

Nice to have some height at WR. do either of them have any speed?

[ktCarl]

Can you believe the 2011 season is already over. Brooks Haack and JT will soon be off to college and a new ERA will begin.

It seems like just yesterday that dada and I were sitting at Denny's with our families in San Antonio the day after a sophomore QB named Brooks Haack ducked Abilene pressure, almost fell, kept his composure and fired the ball to a small WR with no name on his back.

Katy Nation would eventually become used to the call "Pass complete Haack to Thompson" followed by some crazy bald dude leading a group of fans in a "1, 2, 3 First down" chant.

It seems like it wasn't very long ago that dada is telling me in Denny's "Losing sucks, but it doesn't hurt as bad knowing we get to watch Brooks Haack and Jordan Thompson for 2 more years."

Now it's over. :(

I don't understand your mancrush on Haack. He will be easily forgotten especially when Katy wins another Title.

[ktCarl]

Those are the 2 I was talking about. Both have all the tools and major up side. Rodgers is 6'2" and Dunn is 5"11". If they come along like I think they can it will open the deep ball for Fulks. Andy Coonrod could be another great option as a slot/possession reciever.

I just hope that if the running game projects like we think it will, that we won't go away from the pass like we did in '10.

Really?! Coonrod?

[ktCarl]

Did you even read what I said? I picked LT over Katy in 2008. Only picked Katy in 2009 if they didn't play with a depleted offensive line and down a key TE position. Last year I believe Katy would've beaten LT. Yes.

You were the one who posted:


I answered.


Boy did I get tired of people talking about 'if' the OL gels that season. People were saying it even vs New Branfels. I said if they ain't 'gelled' by now they never will be.:cool:

[Leave it on the field]

Nice to have some height at WR. do either of them have any speed?

They're not JT or Fulks fast, but they can run. But not all WR's have to have 4.3 speed. Crisp routes would work better in Katy's system, IMO.

[ktCarl]

nm


Four NMs and you're banned.

[jc84chill]

I've started to look at teams with an eye on next year, and I took a post-season look at Katy earlier this morning.

Running back will be the undisputed strength of team health permitting. Katy will be three-deep at the position with significant varsity experience. Fullback and tight end should fill out the depth chart also. Quarterback and receiver are the big holes to fill. Huddleston, last year's JV QB, is a baseball player so it'll be interesting to see who's taking the Spring snaps (I still like my Wildcat idea with Anderson :D ). Katy has a few seniors-to-be with Fulks at WR, but none played signifcant roles last year. Englett has the most experience after Fulks. Katy has three seniors to build around up front in Sowell, Lopez and Diehr. The incoming junior class has five players who moved up for the playoffs after starting on the undefeated soph/JV squads.

The defense returns six players with significant down experience. Matt Dimon, Jake Blomstrom, Isaiah Brown and Quinn Atwood will be leaders. Cody Gessler (Jr. NG) and Carson Strickler (Sr. OLB) stepped in and played well when starters were banged up. Cole Barry (Sr. LB) was a special teams ace. The big tasks will be to find a partner for Blomstrom and two new secondary starters. Junior Tanner Ebrecht could step in at safety, or rotate with Strickler at Drop.

Depth wise, the most interesting area is offensive line with that group of juniors-to-be. The Tigers will be looking for that group to develop this off-season and give next year's team a chance at having genuine numbers for a change. Katy hasn't had a strong depth situation on the OL since 2008.

I have already identified this kid as a starter on D next year based on the way he went about his business on special teams play during the playoffs. You can tell a player by what he does on kick coverage. Another Ebrecht is ready to roll.

[Super B]

Four NMs and you're banned.
Oh crap. Nobody told me. :mad:

[BlakeJ]

I don't understand your mancrush on Haack. He will be easily forgotten especially when Katy wins another Title.

Ok Carl. Whatever you say. They are all forgotten by you. Half the time the rest of us are to busy reminding you who each player is every game. That's in between your sips of wine and nibbles of cheese of course. :D

Brooks Haack and JT were great players and put up numbers you dont usually see from Katy QBs and WRs.

You may not, but I will definitely miss hearing Haack to Thompson.

[BlakeJ]

I don't understand your mancrush on Haack. He will be easily forgotten especially when Katy wins another Title.

Last but not least. What if Katy doesnt win another state title in our lifetime? didn't they once go 4+ years in between titles?

[Leave it on the field]

Last but not least. What if Katy doesnt win another state title in our lifetime? didn't they once go 4+ years in between titles?

They once went 38 years, but everyone forgets that. I call it the Boston Red Sox syndrome.

[Kat-na-hat]

They're not JT or Fulks fast, but they can run. But not all WR's have to have 4.3 speed. Crisp routes would work better in Katy's system, IMO.

True,

[Austin109]

This year, no, but your argument about being current powers is just that. Current. The Midland Lee argument is valid because it could change. Why isn't Permian considered elite anymore? What about Plano High? What about Converse Judson (and they have been to two state title games in 2005 and 2007)? Nothing is guaranteed about Steele being a big dog a few years from now. It is not. Nothing is guaranteed about Trinity being the kings of Region I, year in and year out. Nothing is even assured of Katy being the power of Region III. Southlake Carroll is learning how hard it is to return back to the State Semifinals after being gone for four years. The thing is that Allen, Dallas Skyline, Katy, Pearland, Longview, The Woodlands, Euless Trinity, and Southlake Carroll have solid programs. Programs that should challenge for a state title. Of course, being Elite doesn't even guarantee doo-doo. Euless Trinty and Katy lost. Steele still has two more games to win. I expect Trinity and Katy to have solid programs year in and out but it doesn't always stay that way. If it did, Abilene High wouldn't have had to wait 53 years to win another State Title after their three-peat from 1954-1956 (hell, they wouldn't have had to worry about breaking a 40 year playoff drought in 1999).


Im confused as to what exactly you are trying to point out. My point was that being a powerful team a decade ago doesn't guarantee a future of being powerful. You just agreed with me but are making it look like an arguement.

And you are right that Judson got there in 2005 and 2007. I forgot about that.

[KT2000]

They're not JT or Fulks fast, but they can run. But not all WR's have to have 4.3 speed. Crisp routes would work better in Katy's system, IMO.

The incoming senior WR class, aside from Fulks, has a lot to prove. Only Fulks made a significant contribution in 2011. Katy needs at least 3-4 every down capable receivers in order to effectively balance the offense alignment wise. Katy's been severely limited in each of the last two years due to a shortage of WRs.

[SBBear]

Brooks Haack and JT were great players and put up numbers you dont usually see from Katy QBs and WRs.

I agree with this comment. I think several years from now people will still remember this combo as being one of the best to come through Katy IMO.

The offense was good enough for a state championship last year, put last years offense with this years defense and we would all be making plans for Jerry's world. Alas, the one missing ingredient went down in the first game of the season, just did not have the breakaway threat Katy seems to have every year. Not a comment on Anderson, Gomez, or Bickam they just didnt possess some of the attributes of Taylor. Anderson can and will be that kind of back, just wait until he is a junior after 2 off seasons, he will be a monster.

[Leave it on the field]

The incoming senior WR class, aside from Fulks, has a lot to prove. Only Fulks made a significant contribution in 2011. Katy needs at least 3-4 every down capable receivers in order to effectively balance the offense alignment wise. Katy's been severely limited in each of the last two years due to a shortage of WRs.

I agree. It is up to them as individuals to improve. They can make themselves in to good WR, but they have to have the desire to do so. I believe this is what we saw with Fulks. We all had questions about him during the offseason last year. When he got the chance to work evey day on his individual skills he improved immensely.

For my money Fulks was the most improved player on the team this year. I hope his work ethic can rub off on the others.

[ray1301]

Nice Article -

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/12/bengals-qb-and-former-katy-star-dalton-earning-his-stripes-in-rookie-season/

[ktchamp97]

I agree. It is up to them as individuals to improve. They can make themselves in to good WR, but they have to have the desire to do so. I believe this is what we saw with Fulks. We all had questions about him during the offseason last year. When he got the chance to work evey day on his individual skills he improved immensely.

For my money Fulks was the most improved player on the team this year. I hope his work ethic can rub off on the others.
I agree with all of that. Fulks is now, without question, a football player who happens to be a track star too. I think he was severely under-utilized this year and I can't wait to see how he'll do as "the man" out wide next fall. That jet-sweep package that they unveiled late in the regular season has incredible potential and I hope to see that become more of a regular part of the offense.

[cougmantx]

Nice Article -

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/12/bengals-qb-and-former-katy-star-dalton-earning-his-stripes-in-rookie-season/

Really looking forward to this game! I am torn though. I would really like to see the Texans secure a playoff spot but I support Andy to. Either way, it should be a great game.

[ktCarl]

Nice Article -

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/12/bengals-qb-and-former-katy-star-dalton-earning-his-stripes-in-rookie-season/

"Title winning time at Katy"??????? I thought Southlake won in 2005? :o

[slcdragonfan]

"Title winning time at Katy"??????? I thought Southlake won in 2005? :o

hater.

[ktCarl]

hater.

We don't call that paper the Houston Moronicle for nuthin'.

[jc84chill]

We don't call that paper the Houston Moronicle for nuthin'.

They shoulda run with this whole Brooks is overrated, Rodney didn't do anything special thing. ;)

[ktCarl]

They shoulda run with this whole Brooks is overrated, Rodney didn't do anything special thing. ;)

You're an Administrator. You're not supposed to be funny.

[RocklandDragon]

Im confused as to what exactly you are trying to point out. My point was that being a powerful team a decade ago doesn't guarantee a future of being powerful. You just agreed with me but are making it look like an arguement.

And you are right that Judson got there in 2005 and 2007. I forgot about that.

Yes, I do agree with you. Why it seemed like I was arguing is the point that being an elite team guarantees you nothing and doesn't guarantee anything in the near future. Your point of putting Westlake out of that group, I can understand but beating a solid strong program such as Westlake, Longview, or Allen can be just as hard as defeating an elite team. La Porte just defeated this elite team in Katy but got dominated by an upstart Port Arthur Team. Arlington Martin just defeated the beasts of Region I but now lost to a resurgent SLC team that hadn't seen this kind of run in a few years. Dallas Skyline may not be an elite team but Carroll is going to have their hands full trying to defeat them. I think that's what I took issue with. Defeating a state power is great but beating a strong program is also impressive. I also believe you are selling Austin Westlake very short. They might only have one title (only one title...there are a lot of schools that would love to have that ONE title), but they have been to the 5A State Championship six times. 1994, 1996, 2000, 2001, 2006, 2009. That's pretty damn good. They may not be a so-called elite program but they are a solid and strong program and defeating them is still impressive.

[RocklandDragon]

I seriously do not remember Katy, Texas being big. When I went to watch a game there, the town seemed like your ordinary 3A or 4A sized town. It was nice, relaxing and enjoyed the small carnival or festival that was there (won some prizes :D ). Rhodes Stadium is quite nice but I still didn't believe that there was a sprawling metropolis surrounding it. I didn't take I-10 when I was going to Katy. I took US 290 and found an FM road that led me to Katy and took the same way back to Round Rock. This time in Houston, I decided to take I-10 and the Katy Tollway and get back to State Hwy 71 to take me back to Round Rock.

Where in the hell did all this development come from?? Has it always been there and I was just totally oblivious to it? All in the Katy area and through the eastern portion of Fort Bend County, there is just shop, after shop, after shop and houses aplenty. Did I simply miss all this area? I mean, it was a shock to me and now I see why Katy ISD has to build so many high schools but I didn't know the development in Greater Katy was that big. How long as this been going on and is it ever going to slow down?


Also, how long has Katy High been leaping a player into the rest of the team? I didn't see it when they played Taylor. How do they chose which one gets the honor to be leaped in the air? It's a pretty neat tradition. :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxu9mKhBx6k&feature=related

[Kat-na-hat]

I seriously do not remember Katy, Texas being big. When I went to watch a game there, the town seemed like your ordinary 3A or 4A sized town. It was nice, relaxing and enjoyed the small carnival or festival that was there (won some prizes :D ). Rhodes Stadium is quite nice but I still didn't believe that there was a sprawling metropolis surrounding it. I didn't take I-10 when I was going to Katy. I took US 290 and found an FM road that led me to Katy and took the same way back to Round Rock. This time in Houston, I decided to take I-10 and the Katy Tollway and get back to State Hwy 71 to take me back to Round Rock.

Where in the hell did all this development come from?? Has it always been there and I was just totally oblivious to it? All in the Katy area and through the eastern portion of Fort Bend County, there is just shop, after shop, after shop and houses aplenty. Did I simply miss all this area? I mean, it was a shock to me and now I see why Katy ISD has to build so many high schools but I didn't know the development in Greater Katy was that big. How long as this been going on and is it ever going to slow down?


Also, how long has Katy High been leaping a player into the rest of the team? I didn't see it when they played Taylor. How do they chose which one gets the honor to be leaped in the air? It's a pretty neat tradition. :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxu9mKhBx6k&feature=related

Katy proper is about 17k people, but KISD encompass's 180 sq miles. If you came into town from the way you described it's still quite sparse. 85% of the growth is south of I10 and east of Katy, hence where the new schools have been built. Realtor told me 25 years ago that once the area known now as Cinco Ranch, was sold there would be an explosion of growth. My wife and I still wonder where in the hell are all these people are coming from. Not sure when the leaping thing started

[Kat-na-hat]

Really, 5 days and not a word. :)

[dada]

I seriously do not remember Katy, Texas being big. When I went to watch a game there, the town seemed like your ordinary 3A or 4A sized town. It was nice, relaxing and enjoyed the small carnival or festival that was there (won some prizes :D ). Rhodes Stadium is quite nice but I still didn't believe that there was a sprawling metropolis surrounding it. I didn't take I-10 when I was going to Katy. I took US 290 and found an FM road that led me to Katy and took the same way back to Round Rock. This time in Houston, I decided to take I-10 and the Katy Tollway and get back to State Hwy 71 to take me back to Round Rock.

Where in the hell did all this development come from?? Has it always been there and I was just totally oblivious to it? All in the Katy area and through the eastern portion of Fort Bend County, there is just shop, after shop, after shop and houses aplenty. Did I simply miss all this area? I mean, it was a shock to me and now I see why Katy ISD has to build so many high schools but I didn't know the development in Greater Katy was that big. How long as this been going on and is it ever going to slow down?


Also, how long has Katy High been leaping a player into the rest of the team? I didn't see it when they played Taylor. How do they chose which one gets the honor to be leaped in the air? It's a pretty neat tradition. :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxu9mKhBx6k&feature=related

Been doing it since I've been watching.....06......also, Bellevue Wa picked it up after coming down in 2008.

[BlakeJ]

How likely is it that Memorial and Strake remain in our district? I'm really hoping they go away and we go back to 6 teams and more non district games. I'm also hoping programs like Morton and 7 Lakes can build on their recent success and become challenging opponents. Also curious to see what happens with Blue.

[jc84chill]

How likely is it that Memorial and Strake remain in our district? I'm really hoping they go away and we go back to 6 teams and more non district games. I'm also hoping programs like Morton and 7 Lakes can build on their recent success and become challenging opponents. Also curious to see what happens with Blue.

It's still early in the offseason, but MR needs a ton of work defensively or else nothing will be getting better over there. Lakes will be interesting with the changes going on over there, I think they have a good base to work with.

I also favor having more options in our scheduling. My hunch is that Strake and Memorial will be in the district this go-around, but will be moved out in the 2014 realignment. Pure speculation on my part though.

[jc84chill]

FWIW, Carl Padilla seems pretty convinced 19-5A is going to look like this come February. Via Twitter...

@padillapoll Carl Padilla
Re-Alignment for 19-5A, A&M Consolidated, Bryan, Katy, Cinco Ranch, Mayde Creek, Morton Ranch, Seven Lakes and Katy Taylor.

The way he's wording his tweets certainly suggests he knows this WILL be the case in Feb. Take his tweet on 26-5A for example...

Churchill, Johnson, Lee, MacArthur, Madison, Reagan, Roosevelt and Steele will be in 26-5A when Re-Alignment is announced in February. 3P

[Kat-na-hat]

FWIW, Carl Padilla seems pretty convinced 19-5A is going to look like this come February. Via Twitter...



The way he's wording his tweets certainly suggests he knows this WILL be the case in Feb. Take his tweet on 26-5A for example...


Welcome the change and let some HISD schools compete with the crusaders. Rudy's BBQ game day in College Station.

[steeler 01]

Today I partied at a club with one of your alumni(Aundre Dean).

[dada]

Today I partied at a club with one of your alumni(Aundre Dean).

promoting his album?

[steeler 01]

promoting his album?

He was actually filming a video at a club my brother runs(I was at the club to party), but ended up helping my brother check ID's for the first hour(His staff was short people), and low and behold I look at the ID, and it's from Katy, TX and it says Aundre Dean. So I asked if he was who I thought he was and he said yea(He was very surprised I knew who he was). He stayed chatting with me for a long time. After he finished filming, and I had gone up to the table I had bottle service at, he ended up going to our table and just talking football and his music(He was a cool person). He's probably coming back on NYE to party with us. He lost his phone at the club, so I text his friend so that they could have my number.

[dada]

He was actually filming a video at a club my brother runs(I was at the club to party), but ended up helping my brother check ID's for the first hour(His staff was short people), and low and behold I look at the ID, and it's from Katy, TX and it says Aundre Dean. So I asked if he was who I thought he was and he said yea(He was very surprised I knew who he was). He stayed chatting with me for a long time. After he finished filming, and I had gone up to the table I had bottle service at, he ended up going to our table and just talking football and his music(He was a cool person). He's probably coming back on NYE to party with us. He lost his phone at the club, so I text his friend so that they could have my number.

Good stuff...I havent heard it but someone told me the album was pretty decent.

[cougmantx]

He was actually filming a video at a club my brother runs(I was at the club to party), but ended up helping my brother check ID's for the first hour(His staff was short people), and low and behold I look at the ID, and it's from Katy, TX and it says Aundre Dean. So I asked if he was who I thought he was and he said yea(He was very surprised I knew who he was). He stayed chatting with me for a long time. After he finished filming, and I had gone up to the table I had bottle service at, he ended up going to our table and just talking football and his music(He was a cool person). He's probably coming back on NYE to party with us. He lost his phone at the club, so I text his friend so that they could have my number.


Glad to hear about the album and filming but what is going on with him football at TCU? Sure haven't heard much about that...:cool:

[dada]

He was actually filming a video at a club my brother runs(I was at the club to party), but ended up helping my brother check ID's for the first hour(His staff was short people), and low and behold I look at the ID, and it's from Katy, TX and it says Aundre Dean. So I asked if he was who I thought he was and he said yea(He was very surprised I knew who he was). He stayed chatting with me for a long time. After he finished filming, and I had gone up to the table I had bottle service at, he ended up going to our table and just talking football and his music(He was a cool person). He's probably coming back on NYE to party with us. He lost his phone at the club, so I text his friend so that they could have my number.

they find the phone?

[steeler 01]

they find the phone?

No

[steeler 01]

Glad to hear about the album and filming but what is going on with him football at TCU? Sure haven't heard much about that...:cool:
I'll ask him if he comes on Saturday. We were mostly talking about H.S. football.

[dada]

Matt "The Demon" Dimon
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/484240/matt-dimon#.Tv9-l3FeuwM.facebook

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Matt "The Demon" Dimon
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/484240/matt-dimon#.Tv9-l3FeuwM.facebook

Thought he was "The Machine"? All I know is the kid is one of the best pure DE's I've seen in a while, on the HS level. He has deceptive speed, as you would think Jared Allen does. However, his explosion and tenacity (for his age) is unreal. Is his technique raw? Of course, but that will come with more experience. I think he's an All-State candidate, for sure, in 2012.

[dada]

Thought he was "The Machine"? All I know is the kid is one of the best pure DE's I've seen in a while, on the HS level. He has deceptive speed, as you would think Jared Allen does. However, his explosion and tenacity (for his age) is unreal. Is his technique raw? Of course, but that will come with more experience. I think he's an All-State candidate, for sure, in 2012.

Demon, Machine....same thing...lol...A lot of the PA annoucers pronouced it Demon...Think he'd be that much better if he didnt play the entire game....some games he never came off the field...was all district as a TE as well. If 6'5 TE Logan Lister steps up Matt may not have to play TE.....

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Demon, Machine....same thing...lol...A lot of the PA annoucers pronouced it Demon...Think he'd be that much better if he didnt play the entire game....some games he never came off the field...was all district as a TE as well. If 6'5 TE Logan Lister steps up Matt may not have to play TE.....

He was very effective as a TE, IMO. Great talent, all around.

[dada]

Key players for next season:

WR/DB Kyle Fulks:
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/484167/kyle-fulks#

RB Ricky Bickham:
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/484187/ricky-bickham

RB Rodney Anderson:
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/610777/rodney-anderson#

RB Adam Taylor:
http://www.ihigh.com/hsgrind/video_895560.html

OL Aaron Sowell:
http://www.ihigh.com/hsgrind/video_897354.html

DB Isaiah Brown:
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/611656/isaiah-brown#

DB Quinn Atwood:
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/484177/#

LB Carson Strickler:
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/484181/#

LB Jake Blomstrom:
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/484199/

DE Matt Dimon:
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/484240/matt-dimon

[dada]

http://www.maxpreps.com/m/article.aspx?articleid=6ee165e9-f62b-e111-beac-002655e6c45a

[jc84chill]

http://www.maxpreps.com/m/article.aspx?articleid=6ee165e9-f62b-e111-beac-002655e6c45a

Rodney Anderson, RB, 5-10, 170, Katy (Texas)
For a team that rarely plays freshmen, Anderson left his mark, rushing 141 times for 1,098 yards and 16 touchdowns.

How about "never" hah. Also jipped him on some stats, but it's all good. Congrats to Rodney... incredible year.

[dada]

It's the offseason...sooooo
http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2009/11/high_school_football_katy_atas.php

[Leave it on the field]

Latest rumor I've heard was that our district is staying the same. For the pre-district we add Klien keep AT and are still looking for the 3rd.

[dada]

Latest rumor I've heard was that our district is staying the same. For the pre-district we add Klien keep AT and are still looking for the 3rd.

Ike is the team floating around.

[Austin109]

woodzwoodzwoodzwoodzwoodz..


:D

[62tiger]

Ike is the team floating around.

Mine said Klein, AT and a team out of Dallas. And no it is not Lewisville.

I feel the first 2 do not help us at all. I hope the 3rd is a wide open spread team.

[dada]

Mine said Klein, AT and a team out of Dallas. And no it is not Lewisville.

I feel the first 2 do not help us at all. I hope the 3rd is a wide open spread team.

Really dont want to see the AT matchup...

[Leave it on the field]

Really dont want to see the AT matchup...

Me either cuz that means we have to go back to Crump in 2 years

[dada]

Me either cuz that means we have to go back to Crump in 2 years

wouldnt mind seeing Manvel or Dawson in non district

[Leave it on the field]

wouldnt mind seeing Manvel or Dawson in non district

What does Manvel have coming back? All I really know about them is they had some beasts on D last year and that their fresh A took our fresh White to the woodshed last year.

[dada]

What does Manvel have coming back? All I really know about them is they had some beasts on D last year and that their fresh A took our fresh White to the woodshed last year.

What's the story on the freshman game? I heard there were a lot of bad feelings in that one.

[jc84chill]

What does Manvel have coming back? All I really know about them is they had some beasts on D last year and that their fresh A took our fresh White to the woodshed last year.

7 Starters (3 offense, 4 defense). 21 lettermen.

QB Shane McCarley
RB Selwyn Green
OL Travis Romero
DL Dewan Edmonson
DB Jared Ambres
DB Austin Bennett
DB Tavares Garner

Talent isn't an issue over there.

[Leave it on the field]

2012 Football Info
Lift-a-Thon...............April 16
Spring Ball Starts.......April 30
Red/White Game........May 22, 4/6 pm Rhodes



First Day of Practice...Aug 13
Scrimmage v Klein Collins...Aug 24
1st Game v Klein HS.........Aug 30

[dada]

2012 Football Info
Lift-a-Thon...............April 16
Spring Ball Starts.......April 30
Red/White Game........May 22, 4/6 pm Rhodes



First Day of Practice...Aug 13
Scrimmage v Klein Collins...Aug 24
1st Game v Klein HS.........Aug 30

beat me to it.......can't wait

[Farmersmom]

2012 Football Info
Lift-a-Thon...............April 16
Spring Ball Starts.......April 30
Red/White Game........May 22, 4/6 pm Rhodes



First Day of Practice...Aug 13
Scrimmage v Klein Collins...Aug 24
1st Game v Klein HS.........Aug 30


I'm sure Coach Miller will have us doing Lift-a-Thon's can you tell me what it is? I am I know lifting weights but can you give me some details please. :) Thanks!

[dada]

I'm sure Coach Miller will have us doing Lift-a-Thon's can you tell me what it is? I am I know lifting weights but can you give me some details please. :) Thanks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onWW3wck_yo

[jc84chill]

I'm sure Coach Miller will have us doing Lift-a-Thon's can you tell me what it is? I am I know lifting weights but can you give me some details please. :) Thanks!

It's an event/night of maxing out on bench press which raises money. It also kind of signals the end of a looooong offseason of conditioning/weight training (not that this ever stops) and marks the beginning of getting the pads back on for Spring ball.

[Austin109]

One of my proudest moments was hitting 225 on benchathon night :D

[KT2000]

From Katy board:

1st game- Klein at Reliant
2nd game - Alief Taylor at Rhodes
3rd game - Woodlands (site not finalized)

8th game - Strake at Tully (Saturday)
9th game - Cinco Ranch
10th game - Memorial

[ktCarl]

From Katy board:

1st game- Klein at Reliant
2nd game - Alief Taylor at Rhodes
3rd game - Woodlands (site not finalized)

8th game - Strake at Tully (Saturday)
9th game - Cinco Ranch
10th game - Memorial

What happened to playing Cinco for 10th game?

Why is Klein game at Reliant?

Why not play The Woodz at Rhodes then in The Sticks?

I guess we should be thankful that A. Taylor will still play Katy. At least it gives Katy an athletic team to play.

[LILBradford]

What happened to playing Cinco for 10th game

There goes our district championship throw down. I thought the cinco game was placed perfectly bc it is the most competitive district game by far with a playoff atmosphere.

[dada]

Change is good.......

Starting at relaint....should get you pumped
Really not excited for the Taylor game, but they have some athletes and will have a DY clone at RB
Woodlands......nothing else needs to be said about that one

Strake at Tully on a Saturday > Strake at Rice on a Friday

Memorial week 10 instead of Cinco...I like it....get that emotional game out of the way before the last week of the season...if the district title is locked up....get some guys rested and healed up before the playoffs.

[RedRage00]

Where's this place you all call "Katy"?

[dada]

Where's this place you all call "Katy"?

A land far, far a way.....like Middle Earth

[ray1301]

Dada, How is the recruiting coming along ?


Who's in the pipeline for the 3 year turn around?

[dada]

Dada, How is the recruiting coming along ?


Who's in the pipeline for the 3 year turn around?

I kind of slacked off after DY and Anderson....RB should be set for awhile....lol

[ray1301]

I kind of slacked off after DY and Anderson....RB should be set for awhile....lol

What about OL and WR's ?

[dada]

What about OL and WR's ?

A good stable of WR's but who will step up and be the guy like JT was?
Fulks could be the deep threat
Englett should get into the action more...looked good last year at 7 on 7
Lane Rodgers has the height
Dunn passes the eyeball test...hoping he pans out
Does Anderson get some WR action??

OL....
Lopez was AD I think
Sowell is down right nasty
I know I'm missing some

[ray1301]

Do you think we will pick up some serious talent from territory regained from MR?

[Leave it on the field]

A good stable of WR's but who will step up and be the guy like JT was?
Fulks could be the deep threat
Englett should get into the action more...looked good last year at 7 on 7
Lane Rodgers has the height
Dunn passes the eyeball test...hoping he pans out
Does Anderson get some WR action??

OL....
Lopez was AD I think
Sowell is down right nasty
I know I'm missing some

They will have 3 OL coming back that have significant Varsity time, plus Brandon Dalton who started center for JV as a sophomore. They also have Sloan Spiller as another TE.

[dada]

Houston area teams that ends Katy's season are usually labeled "Programs on the rise"......are they? or did they just have great classes or a few "breaks"?
In 01....Madison ended the Tigers season....I think they had a good QB that year. The Marlins finished 14-1. Since then, their best season has been 9-2 and they are 60-46 since sending the Tigers home

In 04....Clear Lake did it with a 13-2 record.....best record since has been 8-3. They are 30-41 since then and were winless last season.


06: Cy-Falls: 12-4....1-1 verses the Tigers and were the "New Kids on the Block"....not bad, 34-20 since then...best record was this past season 10-2

Pearland went on to win a state title in 2010........
LaPorte was hammered the next week......

Just a FYI...I was bored.

Other teams that ended the Tigers season
02: Smithson Valley, 96-21 since then
05: SLC....they are doing well
09: Abilene....State Title

[slcdragonfan]

Houston area teams that ends Katy's season are usually labeled "Programs on the rise"......are they? or did they just have great classes or a few "breaks"?
In 01....Madison ended the Tigers season....I think they had a good QB that year. The Marlins finished 14-1. Since then, their best season has been 9-2 and they are 60-46 since sending the Tigers home

In 04....Clear Lake did it with a 13-2 record.....best record since has been 8-3. They are 30-41 since then and were winless last season.


06: Cy-Falls: 12-4....1-1 verses the Tigers and were the "New Kids on the Block"....not bad, 34-20 since then...best record was this past season 10-2

Pearland went on to win a state title in 2010........
LaPorte was hammered the next week......

Just a FYI...I was bored.

Other teams that ended the Tigers season
02: Smithson Valley, 96-21 since then
05: SLC....they are doing well
09: Abilene....State Title

:ninja:

[SilverHairedDad]

is Katy expected to be D1 or D2 this year? What do you guys think?

[ray1301]

is Katy expected to be D1 or D2 this year? What do you guys think?

It's always a toss up but in my opinion they will end up D2.

Cr - D1
MR - D1
Katy - D2
SBM/JET -D2

The other scenario would put them in D1

MR - D1
CR -D2
Katy - D2 - D1
Seven Lakes - D1 (lots of room here for debate)

[LILBradford]

I asked this in the other forum but what do y'all think about Quinn Arwood playing QB and leaving the defense?

[dada]

I asked this in the other forum but what do y'all think about Quinn Arwood playing QB and leaving the defense?

Hear he has a cannon of an arm......but like 62 said.....he will play where ever they need him.

[LILBradford]

Hear he has a cannon of an arm......but like 62 said.....he will play where ever they need him.

Well I hope we get to see that cannon.

[Leave it on the field]

I asked this in the other forum but what do y'all think about Quinn Arwood playing QB and leaving the defense?

If that is truely where they need him and coach J thinks that is best for the team I'm all for it.

If he does go to QB who will step up at safety?

And with no deep snaper and really no punter, will they be like that coach that just goes for it all the time?

[dada]

http://nextgenuniforms.com/wp-content/uploads/HD1-6.png

[Leave it on the field]

Coach did ask some of the boys if they wanted stripes on the pants.

[dada]

Coach did ask some of the boys if they wanted strips on the pants.

I say bring them back.......Wisconsin style

[Leave it on the field]

I say bring them back.......Wisconsin style

Are they swooped? That's what they guys said they wanted

[dada]

Are they swooped? That's what they guys said they wanted

Or maybe something like this:
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/287/029/IllinoisvCincinnatiCAtLPWKgaS6l_display_image.jpg? 1278431907

[LILBradford]

Are they thinking about changing up the uniforms a little or are y'all just having fun?

[dada]

Are they thinking about changing up the uniforms a little or are y'all just having fun?

Just having a lil fun...lol, it's the off season

[LILBradford]

Just having a lil fun...lol, it's the off season

I say we just make the black NIKE jerseys an annual thing to help get the boys hyped up in a tough game. What u think?

[dada]

I say we just make the black NIKE jerseys an annual thing to help get the boys hyped up in a tough game. What u think?

Non District/Playoff games at Rhodes.

[LILBradford]

Non District/Playoff games at Rhodes.

Agreed. I like playoff better than non district

[Leave it on the field]

Coach Joseph really did ask some of the players if they wanted the stripes. I don't think he would go with the Cinncy stripes, maybe the Nebraska style.

I like the black every once in a while. I just hope they never come out in all red, just a bad look IMO. Now all black...that's awesome.

[Mr. Rod]

Coach Joseph really did ask some of the players if they wanted the strips. I don't think he would go with the Cinncy strips, maybe the Nebraska style.

I like the black every once in a while. I just hope they never come out in all red, just a bad look IMO. Now all black...that's awesome.

I know a team that can rock the Red on Red. :p

[Big Daddy Cool]

The Houston Texans? :yes:

[Leave it on the field]

The Houston Texans? :yes:

Them, Texas Tech, and AZ Cardinals were who I was thinking of. IMO, it's a horrible look.

NS, quite surprisingly to me, pulls it off well.

[ktCarl]

Non District/Playoff games at Rhodes.

I haven't seen any recruiting news from you lately.

Whhhaaaaazzzzuuuuppppp???

[dada]

I haven't seen any recruiting news from you lately.

Whhhaaaaazzzzuuuuppppp???

Working hard this year.....Katy needs a QB

[Mr. Rod]

Working hard this year.....Katy needs a QB

You can take a chance on Peyton Manning. :D

[dada]

You can take a chance on Peyton Manning. :D

LOL....the neck is an issue

[Mr. Rod]

LOL....the neck is an issue

Well David Carr is an option. Shoot if he can help the Giants get a ring think of how many more he'll bring to the Tigers. :rofl:

[RedRage00]

Houston area teams that ends Katy's season are usually labeled "Programs on the rise"......are they? or did they just have great classes or a few "breaks"?
In 01....Madison ended the Tigers season....I think they had a good QB that year. The Marlins finished 14-1. Since then, their best season has been 9-2 and they are 60-46 since sending the Tigers home

In 04....Clear Lake did it with a 13-2 record.....best record since has been 8-3. They are 30-41 since then and were winless last season.


06: Cy-Falls: 12-4....1-1 verses the Tigers and were the "New Kids on the Block"....not bad, 34-20 since then...best record was this past season 10-2

Pearland went on to win a state title in 2010........
LaPorte was hammered the next week......

Just a FYI...I was bored.

Other teams that ended the Tigers season
02: Smithson Valley, 96-21 since then
05: SLC....they are doing well
09: Abilene....State Title

"He doesn't even go here!"

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lie5xcvP5H1qbhziqo1_500.png

I kid dayday....just wanted to say that LOL

[dada]

"He doesn't even go here!"

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lie5xcvP5H1qbhziqo1_500.png

I kid dayday....just wanted to say that LOL

BUT......I might have three possible baby Tigers:D

[Big Daddy Cool]

Working hard this year.....Katy needs a QB

What do you mean Katy needs a QB? You guys say that just about every three or four years. And like always one seems to come along.

[jc84chill]

Matt Dimon was offered by Oklahoma. Congrats to him!

Been saying... if that's not a high FBS DLineman, I don't know what is.

[cyfallsbooster2]

It's always a toss up but in my opinion they will end up D2.

Cr - D1
MR - D1
Katy - D2
SBM/JET -D2

The other scenario would put them in D1

MR - D1
CR -D2
Katy - D2 - D1
Seven Lakes - D1 (lots of room here for debate)

Ray....I am not following your 2nd scenario.

Scenario 1 - CR & MR are D1 because they are larger than Katy.

Scenario 2 - 7L makes po's but MR & CR still make po's and CR moves to D2 and Katy up to D1.

i don't follow?

[dada]

Matt Dimon was offered by Oklahoma. Congrats to him!

Been saying... if that's not a high FBS DLineman, I don't know what is.

EXACTLY........
Congrats to him

[ray1301]

Ray....I am not following your 2nd scenario.

Scenario 1 - CR & MR are D1 because they are larger than Katy.

Scenario 2 - 7L makes po's but MR & CR still make po's and CR moves to D2 and Katy up to D1.

i don't follow?

Typo on my part.

Scenario 2 would be -

MR - D1
7L - D1
CR - D2
Katy - D2