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dragonsdaddy
08-24-2009, 08:47 PM
usc qbs? the jets bought and way over paid for the hype that is mark sanchez. he looks completely over-matched. he wasn't well-prepared at the shrine that pete maintained. the cast around the busts make them look a lot better than they are. sanchez will have a phantom injury about game 6 when they are 1-5 and he will never start again. too bad it wasn't philly that made this screw-up.
mad_fan
08-24-2009, 09:03 PM
Can I have a list of first rounders QB's)...say...since 1990...
Name...School...# in first round...and who drafted them...
mad_fan
08-24-2009, 09:05 PM
Price tag would help too...:)
mad_fan
08-24-2009, 09:10 PM
Is Notre Dame football considered a 'group'???:D
mad_fan
08-24-2009, 09:12 PM
The Dallas Cowboys of the last few years is a 'group'...;)
wesaxman34
08-24-2009, 09:43 PM
Is Notre Dame football cosidered a 'group'???:D
I was disappointed too when I opened the thread and it wasn't about Notre Dame...or Ohio State. But I guess since this is in the NFL Discussion and everything...
But to answer your question dragons...
Carson is the only one who has really lived up to the hype recently. Leinhart was a bust and John David Booty was drafted in the 5th round, so no hype there really. Sanchez...well, I think he can be develop into an outstanding backup at best. If he can prove me wrong than good for him.
I think the question is...are USC players in general overrated? :D
mad_fan
08-24-2009, 10:26 PM
I was disappointed too when I opened the thread and it wasn't about Notre Dame...or Ohio State. But I guess since this is in the NFL Discussion and everything...
But to answer your question dragons...
Carson is the only one who has really lived up to the hype recently. Leinhart was a bust and John David Booty was drafted in the 5th round, so no hype there really. Sanchez...well, I think he can be develop into an outstanding backup at best. If he can prove me wrong than good for him.
I think the question is...are USC players in general overrated? :D
1. List college teams I hate...
2. List pro teams I hate...
3. Generalize a relationship between 1 and 2...
4. Post ever more generalized question on pro board...even though it's a college board question...
5. Win???
Matthew 2000 Eagle
08-24-2009, 11:06 PM
Coach Carroll tried to tell Mark before he decided to leave, that he was NOT ready for the NFL. Mark didn't listen so, we'll see what happens.
mad_fan
08-24-2009, 11:13 PM
Coach Carroll tried to tell Mark before he decided to leave, that he was NOT ready for the NFL. Mark didn't listen so, we'll see what happens.
ODB is stoopid...
(read on 5atexasfootball.com)
Matthew 2000 Eagle
08-24-2009, 11:15 PM
ODB is stoopid...
(read on 5atexasfootball.com)
Oh, really?:D
mad_fan
08-24-2009, 11:22 PM
Oh, really?:D
O'...Nightly...:D
I was disappointed too when I opened the thread and it wasn't about Notre Dame...or Ohio State. But I guess since this is in the NFL Discussion and everything...
But to answer your question dragons...
Carson is the only one who has really lived up to the hype recently. Leinhart was a bust and John David Booty was drafted in the 5th round, so no hype there really. Sanchez...well, I think he can be develop into an outstanding backup at best. If he can prove me wrong than good for him.
I think the question is...are USC players in general overrated? :D
As college players? Hell no. As NFL players? I think so.
F18mustang
08-25-2009, 12:12 AM
Don't say Texas Tech Quarterbacks. Don't say Texas Tech Quarterbacks. Don't say Texas Tech Quarterbacks.
mad_fan
08-25-2009, 12:19 AM
Don't say Texas Tech Quarterbacks. Don't say Texas Tech Quarterbacks. Don't say Texas Tech Quarterbacks.
I can't see what you did thar... :rolleyes:
slorch
08-25-2009, 04:37 AM
I was disappointed too when I opened the thread and it wasn't about Notre Dame...or Ohio State. But I guess since this is in the NFL Discussion and everything...
But to answer your question dragons...
Carson is the only one who has really lived up to the hype recently. Leinhart was a bust and John David Booty was drafted in the 5th round, so no hype there really. Sanchez...well, I think he can be develop into an outstanding backup at best. If he can prove me wrong than good for him.
I think the question is...are USC players in general overrated? :D
Matt Cassel says, "Hi!":D
Favpack
08-25-2009, 07:58 AM
Sanchez looked terrible - this ain't Washington State, but you looked like Ryan Leaf.
Firebird
08-25-2009, 08:41 AM
usc qbs? the jets bought and way over paid for the hype that is mark sanchez. he looks completely over-matched. he wasn't well-prepared at the shrine that pete maintained. the cast around the busts make them look a lot better than they are. sanchez will have a phantom injury about game 6 when they are 1-5 and he will never start again. too bad it wasn't philly that made this screw-up.
Man, I can't believe a rookie looked bad in a pre-season game. What were the Jets thinking?
twcpfan1
08-25-2009, 09:02 AM
Man, I can't believe a rookie looked bad in a pre-season game. What were the Jets thinking?
Yeah, they should have drafted somebody from the Big 12. Those guys are great.
twcpfan1
08-25-2009, 09:11 AM
Coach Carroll tried to tell Mark before he decided to leave, that he was NOT ready for the NFL. Mark didn't listen so, we'll see what happens.
He was picked up very early by the Jets and paid very well. I think it's working out for him so far.
Firebird
08-25-2009, 09:17 AM
Yeah, they should have drafted somebody from the Big 12. Those guys are great.
Can you imagine the reaction if someone started a thread after one of Vince Young's rookie preseason games about how overrated he and other Texas quarterbacks are?
wesaxman34
08-25-2009, 11:42 AM
Matt Cassel says, "Hi!":D
Touche. :cool:
dragonsdaddy
08-25-2009, 02:16 PM
Matt Cassel says, "Hi!":D
the word hype was used about cassel his jr year, in high school. the best qb in 4 years from sc didn't start.
yankee
08-25-2009, 03:18 PM
Can you imagine the reaction if someone started a thread after one of Vince Young's rookie preseason games about how overrated he and other Texas quarterbacks are?
many bricks would have been shat.
dragonsdaddy
08-25-2009, 03:24 PM
many bricks would have been shat.
that would assume that there were other busts besides him and chrissy. i still have hope for colt. and chrissy never got the espn/nfl man-love that sc qbs get.
yankee
08-25-2009, 03:28 PM
that would assume that there were other busts besides him and chrissy. i still have hope for colt. and chrissy never got the espn/nfl man-love that sc qbs get.
no doubt.
listening to the announcers raving about mark sanchez was a little tough to watch, but i guess they had nothing else to talk about. but when vince young declared, every single ut fan on this board was basically proclaiming vince a first ballott hall of famer. the most noise he's made since ROTY has been him running away and his momma getting the amber alert going. he and leinart might go down as some of the biggest busts of all time, and i'll be laughing the whole time at both of them.
Firebird
08-25-2009, 03:35 PM
that would assume that there were other busts besides him and chrissy. i still have hope for colt. and chrissy never got the espn/nfl man-love that sc qbs get.
Who has been a recent USC NFL QB bust besides Matt Leinart? JD Booty was drafted in the 5th round with no hype. Anything more than a couple years as a backup is gravy for a 5th round QB. Oh, that's right, Mark Sanchez has seen action as a rookie in a couple preseason games, and he didn't look all-world, so he is already a bust....:rolleyes:
dragonsdaddy
08-25-2009, 04:01 PM
Who has been a recent USC NFL QB bust besides Matt Leinart? JD Booty was drafted in the 5th round with no hype. Anything more than a couple years as a backup is gravy for a 5th round QB. Oh, that's right, Mark Sanchez has seen action as a rookie in a couple preseason games, and he didn't look all-world, so he is already a bust....:rolleyes:
i have a hunch, and a tin foil hat, and you can say i told you so, but so can i. maybe with some good coaching, wait, he's with the jets. never mind.
15Adragon
08-25-2009, 04:27 PM
I was disappointed too when I opened the thread and it wasn't about Notre Dame...or Ohio State. But I guess since this is in the NFL Discussion and everything...
But to answer your question dragons...
Carson is the only one who has really lived up to the hype recently. Leinhart was a bust and John David Booty was drafted in the 5th round, so no hype there really. Sanchez...well, I think he can be develop into an outstanding backup at best. If he can prove me wrong than good for him.
I think the question is...are USC players in general overrated? :D
Yes they are.
twcpfan1
08-25-2009, 04:38 PM
Yes they are.
A couple of guys on this list might have an issue with that.
http://www.usclegends.org/legends.php
Out of curiosity, who do you think over the course of history has produced better players overall than USC?
15Adragon
08-25-2009, 04:47 PM
A couple of guys on this list might have an issue with that.
http://www.usclegends.org/legends.php
Out of curiosity, who do you think over the course of history has produced better players overall than USC?
I was thinking more recently, but I sure am glad Tampa Bay picked Ricky Bell instead of Tony Dorsett.
A couple of guys on this list might have an issue with that.
http://www.usclegends.org/legends.php
Out of curiosity, who do you think over the course of history has produced better players overall than USC?
Notre Dame and Miami.
twcpfan1
08-25-2009, 05:17 PM
I was thinking more recently, but I sure am glad Tampa Bay picked Ricky Bell instead of Tony Dorsett.
Ok recently and this is just a question. I don't follow the NFL that closely. Doesn't USC have more players in the NFL currently than any other school?
twcpfan1
08-25-2009, 05:23 PM
Notre Dame and Miami.
So I guess we're not talking 'recently' anymore. :D
15Adragon
08-25-2009, 05:32 PM
Ok recently and this is just a question. I don't follow the NFL that closely. Doesn't USC have more players in the NFL currently than any other school?
That sounds reasonable to me.
The question is are they overrated and I would say yes. Keep in mind these guys get rated really high most years and that is the point. (R. Bush, L. White, Matt L., etc... ) If you go back to 2003 with Carson Palmer and Troy Polamalu... you find a couple of really good ones.
So I guess we're not talking 'recently' anymore. :D
Hey, you said "over the course of history" not me.
Ok recently and this is just a question. I don't follow the NFL that closely. Doesn't USC have more players in the NFL currently than any other school?
Dont know about currently, but historically Notre Dame has the most with 460 I believe.
twcpfan1
08-25-2009, 06:27 PM
Hey, you said "over the course of history" not me.
Yeah I know, but 15dragon then said recently... holy crap. I'm lost now. :D
mad_fan
08-25-2009, 08:25 PM
Yeah I know, but 15dragon then said recently... holy crap. I'm lost now. :D
We'll count that as a vote in the Notre Dame column...:D
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