Realignment for 265a?

[Gridiron Gopher]

:confused: As anyone heard if 265a might change. I know MacArthur's non-district schedule and scrimmage game have changed. They will now scrimmage with Alamo Heights and play SA Marshall, SA Taft and Seguin.

[SeguinMatadors]

:confused: As anyone heard if 265a might change. I know MacArthur's non-district schedule and scrimmage game have changed. They will now scrimmage with Alamo Heights and play SA Marshall, SA Taft and Seguin.

If your source is reliable... Seguin has got Madison and Mac scheduled for nondistrict so far... throw in NB and our schedule is set. Not bad.. Seguin is looking to get playoff ready.

[SeguinMatadors]

This is what the SA districts are going to look like....

Judson, Wagner, Smithson Valley, Seguin, South West, Highlands, East Central, Del rio

SA Lee, Roosevelt, MacAurthur, Churchill, Reagan, Madison, CC Carrol, CC Ray, CC King

Taft, Holmes, Warren, Marshall, O'Connor, Clark, Jay, Stevens

With two of the Corpus schools going to 4a they don't have enough teams to form their own district and have no where to go but SA.

[DiamondJ2]

Better add Victoria Memorial to 25 then and put Del Rio back in 27. Move Judson, Wagner, SV to 26 & the CC schools to 25. Rarely will UIL cross district boundaries, for instance DR in 26.

[SeguinMatadors]

Better add Victoria Memorial to 25 then and put Del Rio back in 27. Move Judson, Wagner, SV to 26 & the CC schools to 25. Rarely will UIL cross district boundaries, for instance DR in 26.

I really think Judson, SV, and Wagner will be in 25. I hope to God, at least. Look at that district minus those 3 schools... it would be downright terrible... Seguin could likely go undefeated in that district.

[SeguinMatadors]

Better add Victoria Memorial to 25 then and put Del Rio back in 27. Move Judson, Wagner, SV to 26 & the CC schools to 25. Rarely will UIL cross district boundaries, for instance DR in 26.

You think it will be..

CC Carrol, CC Ray, CC King, Seguin, South West, Highlands, East Central, Victoria Memorial

SA Lee, Roosevelt, MacAurthur, Churchill, Reagan, Madison, , Wagner, Smithson Valley, Judson

Taft, Holmes, Warren, Marshall, O'Connor, Clark, Jay, Stevens, Del Rio


????

I doubt that... the traveling in 25 would be too much... I think 25 is going to be the 1 school ISD schools plus the JISD schools... and maybe VM.

[badger95]

if this is what you think is going to happen, then you'll have to bump all the numbers done one. Pullling SA schools into the CC district will creat a void that will be filled with the South Austin District of 25-5A

Austin, Bowie, Westlake, Bastrop, San Marcos, Akins, Crockett, Anderson

[RedRage00]

Feb. needs to hurry up and get here. I'm tired of waiting! lol

GO VIPERS!

[JC73]

Lee is going 4A. This will throw a wrench in a lot of things.

[Gridiron Gopher]

I've heard the same thing about Lee but had not heard it from anyone else.

[DiamondJ2]

You think it will be..

CC Carrol, CC Ray, CC King, Seguin, South West, Highlands, East Central, Victoria Memorial

SA Lee, Roosevelt, MacAurthur, Churchill, Reagan, Madison, , Wagner, Smithson Valley, Judson

Taft, Holmes, Warren, Marshall, O'Connor, Clark, Jay, Stevens, Del Rio


????

I doubt that... the traveling in 25 would be too much... I think 25 is going to be the 1 school ISD schools plus the JISD schools... and maybe VM.


If traveling is too much, then they won't make DR travel to Seguin, EC, etc. And they won't make VM travel to the valley. The speculation, frustration, and crystal ball time of the year.

[LoneRocket]

Lee is going 4A. This will throw a wrench in a lot of things.
Lee has more than 2000 students they will stay 5a.

[LoneRocket]

If traveling is too much, then they won't make DR travel to Seguin, EC, etc. And they won't make VM travel to the valley. The speculation, frustration, and crystal ball time of the year.
Seguin was in a district with the Austin schools so never say never.

[LoneRocket]

if this is what you think is going to happen, then you'll have to bump all the numbers done one. Pullling SA schools into the CC district will creat a void that will be filled with the South Austin District of 25-5A

Austin, Bowie, Westlake, Bastrop, San Marcos, Akins, Crockett, Anderson
What are the chances of the CC schools and VicM will be placed in Region 3?

[Gridiron Gopher]

Lee has more than 2000 students they will stay 5a.
I had heard that one of Lee's programs(I don't know which one) was being dropped and that they would lose about 500 students. That was why they were going to 4a. Could be just a rumor.

[bubbacoach]

Every reallignment you hear that Lee is going 4A. That is all they talk about over there. I think once again they will be disappointed and be stuck in 5A again. And if they do go 4A, I hope they end up with Boerne, Kerrville, Medina Valley etc. Then they would be in the same boat they are in now.

[beachbum0x6]

ok- so is Lee or isnt Lee moving to 4a...?and y would they make the new realignment move so many schools around?:confused:

[SeguinMatadors]

ok- so is Lee or isnt Lee moving to 4a...?and y would they make the new realignment move so many schools around?:confused:

Lee isn't moving to 4a.

Realignment has an assortment of diff. problems... problem is... Corpus lost two of their 5a schools only leaving them with 3... Not enough to form a district... the closest other 5a schools are the San Antonio area... that throws them with us. Del Rio and Victoria Memorial have no where to go... they also go with us. Clemens drops to 4a, San Marcos is going back to Austin, and we add Wagner and Stevens to 5a.. it kind of creates a mess...

The way it works is all schools in the same ISD must be in the same district... that pretty much sets 275a because there are 8 Northside ISD schools.

Then Judson ISD has two schools. North East ISD has 6 schools. Corupus Christi ISD has 3 schools. Smithson Valley, Seguin, Southwest, EC, Victoria Memorial, Del Rio, and Smithson Valley, all have their seperate ISD's. The UIL has to fit it all together... I hope that at least somewhat makes sense.

[SeguinMatadors]

Here... I will put the schools with their ISD's for anyone interested.

Northside ISD

Taft
Stevens
Holmes
Warren
Marshall
O'Connor
Clark
Jay

North East ISD

Lee
Roosevelt
MacAurther
Churchill
Reagan
Madison

Corpus Christi ISD

CC Carroll
CC Ray
CC King

Judson ISD

Judson
Wagner

Single school ISD schools

Del Rio
Seguin
Smithson Valley
Victoria Memorial
Highlands
SouthWest
East Central

[SFARocketGrad]

well i think you also have to look at what all the valley teams are doing. if cc and victoria can shift down there somehow then i think jisd stays in 26 with neisd and nisd keeps 27 and sv goes with the others in 25

[SeguinMatadors]

well i think you also have to look at what all the valley teams are doing. if cc and victoria can shift down there somehow then i think jisd stays in 26 with neisd and nisd keeps 27 and sv goes with the others in 25

You could be right.. but I don't see how they can shift those CC schools to the Valley.. Idk with the UIL though. I think SV is going to 25 either way... the JISD schools might too.

[SFARocketGrad]

either way though i would like to see Judson stay with neisd because they have been battleing it out together for quite a while and have created some good rivralires that will die without the district... I know one for sure tha always sells out is the Judson-Madison game which has in the past pitted two top 10 teams against each other.

[SeguinMatadors]

either way though i would like to see Judson stay with neisd because they have been battleing it out together for quite a while and have created some good rivralires that will die without the district... I know one for sure tha always sells out is the Judson-Madison game which has in the past pitted two top 10 teams against each other.

As a Matador, I would really love to see the Judson ISD schools move into 25 with my boys; Smithson Vallley too.

I think this year we would have a chance at winning a district stacked with Judson and SV... how sweet would that be (for me). Also, Seguin needs to play in a more taleted district this time around if they want to have a chance at a playoff run. If we get stuck in a crap hole district again... I might cry.:(

[SFARocketGrad]

As a Matador, I would really love to see the Judson ISD schools move into 25 with my boys; Smithson Vallley too.

I think this year we would have a chance at winning a district stacked with Judson and SV... how sweet would that be (for me). Also, Seguin needs to play in a more taleted district this time around if they want to have a chance at a playoff run. If we get stuck in a crap hole district again... I might cry.:(


I'll give you a red shoulder to cry on!!! haha

[DiamondJ2]

Better make the other shoulder black & red, because if JISD schools go in that district count Wagner in the playoffs within 2 years.

[SeguinMatadors]

Better make the other shoulder black & red, because if JISD schools go in that district count Wagner in the playoffs within 2 years.

Possibly next year.. think about it... Seguin, Judson, Smithson Valley... no one... 4 teams in each district make it now... although they are an expansion 5a school... I don't think you can rule them out with those junky schools.

[beachbum0x6]

Possibly next year.. think about it... Seguin, Judson, Smithson Valley... no one... 4 teams in each district make it now... although they are an expansion 5a school... I don't think you can rule them out with those junky schools.

I like the way u think--very nice :D

[RedRage00]

Victoria is rumored to be going to either SA or Houston (Region III). We are equal distance from both cities. Actually, we are equal distance with Austin too...so you never know with the UIL. LOL

RR

[bubbacoach]

The numbers Lee turned in August were 2395. These numbers include Lee high school and their magnet school. Their current numbers show 1957 at Lee and 440 at their magnet school. Which gives them an enrollment of 2397. Those are 5A numbers. They would have had to drop at least 450 kids since August to have a chance to go to 4A. Sorry Lee you will still be getting killed by the big dogs.:eek:

[Gridiron Gopher]

I had heard that the magnet school was being dropped (no facts just rumor) and that was why they might be going 4a?

[lonny23]

Here... I will put the schools with their ISD's for anyone interested.

Northside ISD

Taft
Stevens
Holmes
Warren
Marshall
O'Connor
Clark
Jay

North East ISD

Lee
Roosevelt
MacAurther
Churchill
Reagan
Madison

Corpus Christi ISD

CC Carroll
CC Ray
CC King

Judson ISD

Judson
Wagner

Single school ISD schools

Del Rio
Seguin
Smithson Valley
Victoria Memorial
Highlands
SouthWest
East Central
SV is in with New Braunfels and NB Canyon and just maybe New Braunfels moves up.

[lonny23]

As a Matador, I would really love to see the Judson ISD schools move into 25 with my boys; Smithson Vallley too.

I think this year we would have a chance at winning a district stacked with Judson and SV... how sweet would that be (for me). Also, Seguin needs to play in a more taleted district this time around if they want to have a chance at a playoff run. If we get stuck in a crap hole district again... I might cry.:(
If you beat Judson and SV, my hat is off to you.

[badger95]

SV is in with New Braunfels and NB Canyon and just maybe New Braunfels moves up.

Smithson Valley and NB Canyon are in the Comal ISD. They are currently building Canyon Lake High School, set to open in '07.

New Braunfels is not in the same school district. They are independent. Only SV will be 5A, and could drop down the next alignment when Canyon Lake opens.

[SeguinMatadors]

SV is in with New Braunfels and NB Canyon and just maybe New Braunfels moves up.

I know Smithson Smithson Valley is in the same ISD as Canyon but they aren't a 5a school so it doesn't really have an effect one way or another on realignment. The teams I listed as independents ISD schools are the only 5a school in their ISD.

[SeguinMatadors]

If you beat Judson and SV, my hat is off to you.

We just need to beat one of em' to be in the thick of things. The other can knock the other one off and make things interesting.

[DiamondJ2]

Right now it's all speculation, but be careful of what you wish for. SV, Judson, VM & Wagner in the same district with Seguin could mean the Mats on the outside looking in.

[SeguinMatadors]

Right now it's all speculation, but be careful of what you wish for. SV, Judson, VM & Wagner in the same district with Seguin could mean the Mats on the outside looking in.

You can not be serious? VM and Wagner beating out Seguin? You are joking, no?

[Reaganrattler07]

Whats VM? And I've heard that Wagner is looking pretty darn good....

[SeguinMatadors]

Whats VM? And I've heard that Wagner is looking pretty darn good....

Victoria Memorial. Wagner may be good.. but will not beat Seguin out. Seguin is returning 7 starters on a damn good defense, including their best two players... CB Desmond Jackson and MLB Marcus Richardson. They were the only two Jrs. to make the express news all area team. Defense is going to be much better than last years.... that alone will get them at least 3rd in the district.

[Reaganrattler07]

Victoria Memorial. Wagner may be good.. but will not beat Seguin out. Seguin is returning 7 starters on a damn good defense, including their best two players... CB Desmond Jackson and MLB Marcus Richardson. They were the only two Jrs. to make the express news all area team. Defense is going to be much better than last years.... that alone will get them at least 3rd in the district.

Well, good luck to them but....I think Wagner will suprise people...

[Mad Hatter]

lol 25-5a ..... seguin might just want to stay in the district there in now they can win district titles and attract more people to want to play. with 4 team making the playoffs they probably wont miss any in the near future but when steel gets to be 5a if the districts stay the same and they *** stell with Judson and etc... ure winners will be

Judson, Wagner, SV (assuming they dont drop) and steel.

[Rerun]

lol 25-5a ..... seguin might just want to stay in the district there in now they can win district titles and attract more people to want to play. with 4 team making the playoffs they probably wont miss any in the near future but when steel gets to be 5a if the districts stay the same and they *** stell with Judson and etc... ure winners will be

Judson, Wagner, SV (assuming they dont drop) and steel.

By 2009, it is being projected that Steele will be at 2,098. Clemens is projected to be at 1,571 during that time. As the numbers creep up, I firmly believe that S.C.U.C.I.S.D. will build a third high school which by estimations, would be around 2015.

When it is all said and done, Clemens will remain a 4A school. Steele 4A, although they will play a few years in class 5A(just like Clemens) before the possible third high school opens up.

After that, the land in Schertz and Cibolo will be maxed out and have reached building capacity. Schertz is nearing that right now and I have a feeling that somewhere down the road boundaries will be altered in such a way that students residing in the S.C.U.C.I.S.D area of Universal City as well as the city of Schertz will strictly be Clemens students, where Cibolo residents will be at either Steele or the potential third high school.

Right now, there are some portions of Schertz that go to Cibolo Steele. Neighborhoods on the left side of FM 3009(east bound after exiting IH35) go to Steele.

There are a lot of things regarding school districts boundaries and I for one enjoy seeing the growth of our areas.

As for Wagner, I have heard very good reports on their athletes and program overall. I would not be surprised to see Wagner compete right away, as in next season.

Great luck to Wagner and Steele on their initial varsity seasons.

[RedRage00]

You can not be serious? VM and Wagner beating out Seguin? You are joking, no?

Dude, you act like Seguin is some top dog in Region IV. They haven't done crap for you to think they can compete with anyone decent. Beating LEE and Jefferson doesn't count.

You have what, a couple winning season in a row and you think you're JUDSON? PUHLEEZE!

The Vipers would take 'em out.

[SeguinMatadors]

Dude, you act like Seguin is some top dog in Region IV. They haven't done crap for you to think they can compete with anyone decent. Beating LEE and Jefferson doesn't count.

You have what, a couple winning season in a row and you think you're JUDSON? PUHLEEZE!

The Vipers would take 'em out.

Lets be real now...

If you watched the Judson-Seguin playoff game and knew what we had coming back in comparison to them you would have a clue. That game was closer than the score and Seguin was missing its best offensive and defensive player (both of whom will be back next year).... not saying that it would have changed the outcome of that game but it would have been closer..... also, Seguin is returning everything that is worth returning.. Judson isn't returning much. Seguin CAN compete with Judson, like it.

[RedRage00]

Lets be real now...

If you watched the Judson-Seguin playoff game and knew what we had coming back in comparison to them you would have a clue. That game was closer than the score and Seguin was missing its best offensive and defensive player (both of whom will be back next year).... not saying that it would have changed the outcome of that game but it would have been closer..... also, Seguin is returning everything that is worth returning.. Judson isn't returning much. Seguin CAN compete with Judson, like it.

I'm not disrespecting Seguin, but you can't put them in the same category with Region IV's best until they actually beat some of Region IV's best. I am from Victoria, but live in SA. I am not here acting like Victoria should be sitting in the same Category as Judson and some of the other top SA programs. Seguin has had 2 winning seasons in a row. Kudos to them. But look what happens when they meet quality teams.....losses to Canyon, San Marcos, and Clemens. Then Judson in the playoffs. You can stick Seguin in the same categery as Victoria and CC Carroll b/c none of those 3 teams can beat SA's best. I am a fan of Region IV football. We may be put in the same district as Seguin in a couple days. I think that would make for an interesting game.

Good Luck! I was used to Seguin being on the bottom for years. Its actually nice to see a new team on the rise.

RR

[SeguinMatadors]

I'm not disrespecting Seguin, but you can't put them in the same category with Region IV's best until they actually beat some of Region IV's best. I am from Victoria, but live in SA. I am not here acting like Victoria should be sitting in the same Category as Judson and some of the other top SA programs. Seguin has had 2 winning seasons in a row. Kudos to them. But look what happens when they meet quality teams.....losses to Canyon, San Marcos, and Clemens. Then Judson in the playoffs. You can stick Seguin in the same categery as Victoria and CC Carroll b/c none of those 3 teams can beat SA's best. I am a fan of Region IV football. We may be put in the same district as Seguin in a couple days. I think that would make for an interesting game.

Good Luck! I was used to Seguin being on the bottom for years. Its actually nice to see a new team on the rise.

RR

I get what you are saying but I am not trying to say they are a region 4 power year in and year out.... just that next year they have the talent to compete for region 4.

[lonny23]

You can not be serious? VM and Wagner beating out Seguin? You are joking, no?
I still think Seguin is better than the Vipers.

[lonny23]

By 2009, it is being projected that Steele will be at 2,098. Clemens is projected to be at 1,571 during that time. As the numbers creep up, I firmly believe that S.C.U.C.I.S.D. will build a third high school which by estimations, would be around 2015.

When it is all said and done, Clemens will remain a 4A school. Steele 4A, although they will play a few years in class 5A(just like Clemens) before the possible third high school opens up.

After that, the land in Schertz and Cibolo will be maxed out and have reached building capacity. Schertz is nearing that right now and I have a feeling that somewhere down the road boundaries will be altered in such a way that students residing in the S.C.U.C.I.S.D area of Universal City as well as the city of Schertz will strictly be Clemens students, where Cibolo residents will be at either Steele or the potential third high school.

Right now, there are some portions of Schertz that go to Cibolo Steele. Neighborhoods on the left side of FM 3009(east bound after exiting IH35) go to Steele.

There are a lot of things regarding school districts boundaries and I for one enjoy seeing the growth of our areas.

As for Wagner, I have heard very good reports on their athletes and program overall. I would not be surprised to see Wagner compete right away, as in next season.

Great luck to Wagner and Steele on their initial varsity seasons.
I think the reason you're not a Hall of Famer yet is because you disappear from posting for long periods of time. If you put in a consistent effort to post more, I'll put in a good word for you (as long as you say something nice about Judson!:D)

I think you were on the verge of being a Hall of Fame type in 2004, but you fell off in your posting in 2005. If we had an Off-Topic Hall of Fame, you'd be in it.

[lonny23]

Lets be real now...

If you watched the Judson-Seguin playoff game and knew what we had coming back in comparison to them you would have a clue. That game was closer than the score and Seguin was missing its best offensive and defensive player (both of whom will be back next year).... not saying that it would have changed the outcome of that game but it would have been closer..... also, Seguin is returning everything that is worth returning.. Judson isn't returning much. Seguin CAN compete with Judson, like it.
Although I think Seguin has been better than VM the last 2 years and it's the only 2 years in recent history, I'm not ready to say Seguin is going to compete with Judson next year. They might play them tough, but I can assure you that Judson is not returning nobody. They have some good players coming back on defense, plus the QB and RB.

[lonny23]

I get what you are saying but I am not trying to say they are a region 4 power year in and year out.... just that next year they have the talent to compete for region 4.
Man, I have to see that to believe it. In recent years, the question is not are there teams out there good enough to beat Judson and Smithson Valley in Region 4, but are those 2 teams bad enough that somebody else can beat them. More times than not, Region 4 can't beat Judson or Smithson Valley in the playoffs, even if a few beat them in the regular season.

[lonny23]

Man, I have to see that to believe it. In recent years, the question is not are there teams out there good enough to beat Judson and Smithson Valley in Region 4, but are those 2 teams bad enough that somebody else can beat them. More times than not, Region 4 can't beat Judson or Smithson Valley in the playoffs, even if a few beat them in the regular season.
Here's why I have my doubts about San Antonio beating Judson in the playoffs. Since 1985, which includes the last 21 playoffs, with Judson in 19 of them and officially losing 14 times, here's who beat them.

85 San Antonio Holmes (Quarterfinals)
86 Austin Reagan (Quarterfinals)
87 Ft. Bend Willowridge (Round 2)
88 *Dallas Carter*, but later declared CHAMPS
89 Aldine (Semis)
90 Marshall (Title game), not SA Marshall
91 Stafford Dulles (Semis), now Ft. Bend
92 CHAMPS
93 CHAMPS
94 Katy (Semis)
95 CHAMPS
96 Lewisville (Title game)
97 Austin Crockett (1st round)
98 Duncanville (Title game)
99 MISSED PLAYOFFS
00 Austin Westlake (Round 1)
01 San Antonio Taft (Round 2)
02 CHAMPS
03 MISSED PLAYOFFS
04 Spring Westfield (Semis)
05 Euless Trinity (Title game)

That means they were Region 4 champs 13 of the 19 times they made the playoffs and only lost to San Antonio twice.

[Rerun]

I think Seguin is in a good position right now to continue building a sturdy foundation on the 5A level. If Seguin can continue to improve each season, as I feel they have been for the past two, then I can see the Matadors becoming one of those top "Tier Two" programs, you know, like Schertz Clemens and O'Connor. With time, the Matadors could break that barrier and make a post season run but for now, I will just expect them to compete very well and be recognized as a program that will not consistently be favored to beat a "Tier One" program such as Converse Judson or Smithson Valley.

On that note, let me say that Seguin is returning key players in 2006 and there is a definite possibility that they could beat Judson or Smithson Valley, should they meet somewhere down the road, whether it is in district or the play-off's.

[The Lone Ranger]

Rivals has Lee's enrollment as "confirmed: at 1968. This would make them the 2nd largest school in 4A.

[DiamondJ2]

No doubt Seguin has the suspects to be a good team next year. The fan support has increased tremedously over the last couple of years, too. Maybe they can recapture the glory days of the Mats in the 60's & 70's. To defeat Judson, next year may be their opportunity, but watch out for the Rockets in 2007. Two good classes together. And, again, I am going to remind SA area people be wary of the Thunderbirds of Wagner.

[RedRage00]

Here's why I have my doubts about San Antonio beating Judson in the playoffs. Since 1985, which includes the last 21 playoffs, with Judson in 19 of them and officially losing 14 times, here's who beat them.

85 San Antonio Holmes (Quarterfinals)
86 Austin Reagan (Quarterfinals)
87 Ft. Bend Willowridge (Round 2)
88 *Dallas Carter*, but later declared CHAMPS
89 Aldine (Semis)
90 Marshall (Title game), not SA Marshall
91 Stafford Dulles (Semis), now Ft. Bend
92 CHAMPS
93 CHAMPS
94 Katy (Semis)
95 CHAMPS
96 Lewisville (Title game)
97 Austin Crockett (1st round)
98 Duncanville (Title game)
99 MISSED PLAYOFFS
00 Austin Westlake (Round 1)
01 San Antonio Taft (Round 2)
02 CHAMPS
03 MISSED PLAYOFFS
04 Spring Westfield (Semis)
05 Euless Trinity (Title game)

That means they were Region 4 champs 13 of the 19 times they made the playoffs and only lost to San Antonio twice.

B/C they compete in Division I and Division I is usually weaker than Division II.

RR

[bubbacoach]

Rivals has Lee's enrollment as "confirmed: at 1968. This would make them the 2nd largest school in 4A.
That is correct their enrollment is 1968, bu the enrollment at their magnet school is 440. They will be 5A. Check out the neisd website.

[SeguinMatadors]

Here's why I have my doubts about San Antonio beating Judson in the playoffs. Since 1985, which includes the last 21 playoffs, with Judson in 19 of them and officially losing 14 times, here's who beat them.

85 San Antonio Holmes (Quarterfinals)
86 Austin Reagan (Quarterfinals)
87 Ft. Bend Willowridge (Round 2)
88 *Dallas Carter*, but later declared CHAMPS
89 Aldine (Semis)
90 Marshall (Title game), not SA Marshall
91 Stafford Dulles (Semis), now Ft. Bend
92 CHAMPS
93 CHAMPS
94 Katy (Semis)
95 CHAMPS
96 Lewisville (Title game)
97 Austin Crockett (1st round)
98 Duncanville (Title game)
99 MISSED PLAYOFFS
00 Austin Westlake (Round 1)
01 San Antonio Taft (Round 2)
02 CHAMPS
03 MISSED PLAYOFFS
04 Spring Westfield (Semis)
05 Euless Trinity (Title game)

That means they were Region 4 champs 13 of the 19 times they made the playoffs and only lost to San Antonio twice.

I know Jusdson and SV are hard to knock out of the playoffs... both schools have the heart and tradition of champions... I am optimistic this time of year, as most teams are, and this year more so than ever because I believe we are returning the talent to make some sort of playoff run. This is coach Carsons first class he took in as freshman... it should make for an interesting year.

[SeguinMatadors]

I think Seguin is in a good position right now to continue building a sturdy foundation on the 5A level. If Seguin can continue to improve each season, as I feel they have been for the past two, then I can see the Matadors becoming one of those top "Tier Two" programs, you know, like Schertz Clemens and O'Connor. With time, the Matadors could break that barrier and make a post season run but for now, I will just expect them to compete very well and be recognized as a program that will not consistently be favored to beat a "Tier One" program such as Converse Judson or Smithson Valley.

On that note, let me say that Seguin is returning key players in 2006 and there is a definite possibility that they could beat Judson or Smithson Valley, should they meet somewhere down the road, whether it is in district or the play-off's.

I pretty much agree with everything you said..... it is a crime TH isn't in the hall!

[DiamondJ2]

B/C they compete in Division I and Division I is usually weaker than Division II.

RR


Doesn't say much for the other schools that Judson has played in the playoffs & lost to or defeated. Like Holmes who was ranked #1 in the nation, Plano, Permian, Eisenhower, Katy, Westlake, Lewisville, Westfield, ET, Aldine who were all ranked in the top 5 in Texas or in the top 20 of the nation when the Rockets played them, and Victoria and Victoria Memorial.

[lonny23]

I think Seguin is in a good position right now to continue building a sturdy foundation on the 5A level. If Seguin can continue to improve each season, as I feel they have been for the past two, then I can see the Matadors becoming one of those top "Tier Two" programs, you know, like Schertz Clemens and O'Connor. With time, the Matadors could break that barrier and make a post season run but for now, I will just expect them to compete very well and be recognized as a program that will not consistently be favored to beat a "Tier One" program such as Converse Judson or Smithson Valley.

On that note, let me say that Seguin is returning key players in 2006 and there is a definite possibility that they could beat Judson or Smithson Valley, should they meet somewhere down the road, whether it is in district or the play-off's.
I agree on your Tier 1 and Tier 2 schools. Tier 1 schools get to the semis regularly. Tier 2 schools can win district titles and playoff games, but not get out of the region consistently.

[lonny23]

No doubt Seguin has the suspects to be a good team next year. The fan support has increased tremedously over the last couple of years, too. Maybe they can recapture the glory days of the Mats in the 60's & 70's. To defeat Judson, next year may be their opportunity, but watch out for the Rockets in 2007. Two good classes together. And, again, I am going to remind SA area people be wary of the Thunderbirds of Wagner.
I like your choice of words saying suspects!:D

[lonny23]

B/C they compete in Division I and Division I is usually weaker than Division II.

RR
Some of them there years had D1 being better overall than D2. Some of the D1 teams would beat the highly publicized D2 schools.

[BandidoNB]

SV is in with New Braunfels and NB Canyon and just maybe New Braunfels moves up.

New Braunfels turned in less than 1900 students in this realignment. New Braunfels probably wont go 5A... ever. NB's enrollment peaked in 2004 with 1910 students and has slowly declined since then, as NB's attendance boundaries are maxed out in growth. Get ready to see NB Canyon possibly eclipse NB High as the dominant high school in New Braunfels in a few years. Canyon has grown from 900 students to more than 1600 in the last 10 years. Virtually all open land on the outskirts of New Braunfels, TX is on Comal ISD (Canyon attendance zone).

[RedRage00]

Since consolidation Victoria has had declining enrollment. It started at 4400 and is now around 3800.

RR

[Mad Hatter]

Seguin needs to keep winning games in a weak district so that they can start getting kids who want to play for them win some district titles so what u lose in the playoffs for a while it takes time to build a program. I give sguin 4 years and then they will be a legit Teir 2 team.

[The Lone Ranger]

That is correct their enrollment is 1968, bu the enrollment at their magnet school is 440. They will be 5A. Check out the neisd website.

When Rivals says "confirmed," that means that that is the number that the Lee office told them they turned into the UIL.

I'm really hoping that it's wrong, because that would mean that one of the best swim teams in the Metroplex (one who has beaten my team in Districts 2 years in a row and should continue to take their 2nd region title), JJ Pearce, would drop to 4A. It's a win-win situation if that happens...Pearce wins state, and we win a UIL district and region title.

Please be wrong, Rivals!

[bubbacoach]

When Rivals says "confirmed," that means that that is the number that the Lee office told them they turned into the UIL.

I'm really hoping that it's wrong, because that would mean that one of the best swim teams in the Metroplex (one who has beaten my team in Districts 2 years in a row and should continue to take their 2nd region title), JJ Pearce, would drop to 4A. It's a win-win situation if that happens...Pearce wins state, and we win a UIL district and region title.

Please be wrong, Rivals!
What affiliation does rivals have with UIL. Why would the Northeast website post incorrect numbers?

[SeguinMatadors]

What affiliation does rivals have with UIL. Why would the Northeast website post incorrect numbers?

People have connections.

[bubbacoach]

People have connections.
When it comes to UIL no one has connections. They are very tight lipped about reallignment.

[The Lone Ranger]

NEISD isn't responsible for turning in the realignment number. The individual school is.

Rivals "confirmed" the number of 1968. This means that Rivals called the school and confirmed that was the number they turned in.

However, confirmed numbers can be wrong and have been in the past.

Randy Allen was under the assumption that HP turned in 1926, when they only turned in 1991.

Rivals was going with 1921 for North Crowley last time around, and so had them in 4A.

But the odds are basically one in about 200 or so.

So it looks pretty safe to say that Lee will be 4A.

[Gridiron Gopher]

On the Lee situation I had heard that they were dropping to 4a because they were not going to have the magnet portion in their enrollment numbers. This came from some teachers from another school but it all could have been rumors. We'll all know by tomorrow.

[Rerun]

On the Lee situation I had heard that they were dropping to 4a because they were not going to have the magnet portion in their enrollment numbers. This came from some teachers from another school but it all could have been rumors. We'll all know by tomorrow.


Latest word I have is that Lee will indeed make the drop to 4A.

We will know in a matter of hours but this would nix ALL students in the magnet program from competing in athletics for Lee and would in turn force the magnet school(ISA) to be in their own district and compete at a 2A or 3A level.

Nothing confirmed, but this is a possibility.

If Lee is not 4A this time around, then they will be next time and ISA will compete as their own school and will be in their own district and classification.

[The Lone Ranger]

Latest word I have is that Lee will indeed make the drop to 4A.

We will know in a matter of hours but this would nix ALL students in the magnet program from competing in athletics for Lee and would in turn force the magnet school(ISA) to be in their own district and compete at a 2A or 3A level.

Nothing confirmed, but this is a possibility.

If Lee is not 4A this time around, then they will be next time and ISA will compete as their own school and will be in their own district and classification.

ISA would have to be in 5A...

all magnet schools must be in the same district as the largest school in their ISD.

So they'd be in the same district as the rest of NEISD for Academics and Arts.

[LoneRocket]

As I mentioned before the region 4 and 26-5a make up depended on what was going to happen with the Austin schools. With Lee dropping it kept JISD from being kicked out of 26.

[bubbacoach]

I stand corrected Lee somehow found a way not to count their magnet school. They cannot participate if they are magnet school students. They will still get rolled in the 4A district they are in. Region 4, one district with at least 6 of the top 10 teams in the region.

[Gridiron Gopher]

265a just got tougher. Wow! The 4 teams that come out of 265a will be battle tested. No push overs! With non-district games against Clark, Taft and Seguin then follow that up with district games against Reagan, Wagner, SV, Roosevelt, Churchill, Judson and finally Madison, SA Mac will find out how good they are. If you make the playoffs you will be ready.

[clemensbuff]

New Braunfels turned in less than 1900 students in this realignment. New Braunfels probably wont go 5A... ever. NB's enrollment peaked in 2004 with 1910 students and has slowly declined since then, as NB's attendance boundaries are maxed out in growth. Get ready to see NB Canyon possibly eclipse NB High as the dominant high school in New Braunfels in a few years. Canyon has grown from 900 students to more than 1600 in the last 10 years. Virtually all open land on the outskirts of New Braunfels, TX is on Comal ISD (Canyon attendance zone).

They already have! Like it or not.

[clemensbuff]

265a just got tougher. Wow! The 4 teams that come out of 265a will be battle tested. No push overs! With non-district games against Clark, Taft and Seguin then follow that up with district games against Reagan, Wagner, SV, Roosevelt, Churchill, Judson and finally Madison, SA Mac will find out how good they are. If you make the playoffs you will be ready.

Amen! Those 4 teams will be ready for anyone and anything in the playoffs! What continues to suck is that there will be 3 or even 4 teams that should be in the playoffs that aren't every year! Good luck to all!

[SeguinMatadors]

265a just got tougher. Wow! The 4 teams that come out of 265a will be battle tested. No push overs! With non-district games against Clark, Taft and Seguin then follow that up with district games against Reagan, Wagner, SV, Roosevelt, Churchill, Judson and finally Madison, SA Mac will find out how good they are. If you make the playoffs you will be ready.

26 5a is insaneeellly stacked. I hate that Seguin didn't get put with SA schools but oh well... at least we are in a pretty good district.

[RedRage00]

They already have! Like it or not.

I think he meant enrollment wise. The numbers.

[clemensbuff]

I think he meant enrollment wise. The numbers.

Your probably right. The district that Clemens has been put into with NB and NB Canyon looks to be a really great race. Throw Hays Consolidated and Steele (in a few years) and it could be one of the toughest 4a districts in the state. Canyon, Hays, and Clemens should be in the mix year in and year out! We'll see how Steele effects Clemens football in a few months.

[DiamondJ2]

won't take long for SV, Judson & Wagner to take 3 of 4 playoff spots while only 1 out of 5 NEISD schools vie for the final spot. Possible by next year, but definite in 3-4 years, if SV, Judson & Wagner are still in that district.

[badger95]

Smithson Valley will probably go down to 4A the next alignment after Comal ISD opens Canyon Lake HS.

[Mad Hatter]

hahaha the rest of city will not stand a chance in the playoffs who ever comeso out of 265a will take region simple.

[Rerun]

Well, with Lee making the drop to class 4A, that eliminated the one "easy" game that 26-5A had. Take out a Lee program that has been down and out for 25+ years and replace them with a brand new, fresh, watering at the mouth program in Wagner. WOW. Smithson Valley and Judson are teams that RELOAD. I think it is safe to say they will be in the hunt for the top 2 spots. I will make bold predictions right now. Wagner WILL get THIRD place in 26-5A next year while Reagan gets fourth. There, I said it and I made my call. I think Wagner will win right off the bat.

[Gridiron Gopher]

Well, with Lee making the drop to class 4A, that eliminated the one "easy" game that 26-5A had. Take out a Lee program that has been down and out for 25+ years and replace them with a brand new, fresh, watering at the mouth program in Wagner. WOW. Smithson Valley and Judson are teams that RELOAD. I think it is safe to say they will be in the hunt for the top 2 spots. I will make bold predictions right now. Wagner WILL get THIRD place in 26-5A next year while Reagan gets fourth. There, I said it and I made my call. I think Wagner will win right off the bat.

Love your passion but I think we all know now why you're not "A HALL OF FAMER" :p

[DiamondJ2]

I would like to agree with your prediction TH, but it would be very difficult for Wagner to place that high in their first year. Granted, gridiron gopher, and others would not like to see Wagner have that much success in their 1st varsity season. Wagner's JV team and two freshmen teams only lost a total of 3-4 games mainly against Northhside ISD schools. No telling what type of talent will move into Wagner with all of the housing being thrown together. To have both Judson ISD schools make the playoffs will be outstanding, if you are not a NEISD school fan.

[LoneRocket]

When it comes to UIL no one has connections. They are very tight lipped about reallignment.

The following article explains what you are talking about.

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/highschool/02/3SportsByGeorge.html

[LoneRocket]

On the Lee situation I had heard that they were dropping to 4a because they were not going to have the magnet portion in their enrollment numbers. This came from some teachers from another school but it all could have been rumors. We'll all know by tomorrow.
What Lee had to give up to move down to 4A.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/hssports/stories/MYSA020406.1C.HSisa.realignment.21f04099.html

[Rerun]

I was watching KSAT 12 News @ 5 this afternoon and their top story was Lee dropping to 4A. There was a meeting at Lee HS this afternoon to answer questions from angry parents that wanted to know why their little babies in the magnet program wouldn't be allowed to play in sports or band anymore. A few of the parents that they showed said that it was only done to improve the football team's record because the rest of the sports at Lee has been competing relatively well. Well, that is just pure and utter horseshit.

Lee soccer is good, yes, they are one of the top teams in the city but their basketball, baseball, tennis, golf, softball, volleyball, etc are not good. AT ALL.

So, what do I think the parents that are complaining should do? Eat it and live with the decision because since little Johnnie transfered to the magnet school, little Johnnie's focus should be on his maget school work and not on the football field. And if they don't like it, then go back to whatever school there were regularly scheduled to attend.

Is it harsh? Sure but the reality is that Lee is truly and honestly a school with 4A numbers and they NEED to be in 4A to compete. What is more harsh? Little Jonnhie not being able to play sports while attending the magnet school OR another 2 years of celebrating a 2-8 season and actually thinking and letting the kids think that it was good enough?

[lonny23]

I was watching KSAT 12 News @ 5 this afternoon and their top story was Lee dropping to 4A. There was a meeting at Lee HS this afternoon to answer questions from angry parents that wanted to know why their little babies in the magnet program wouldn't be allowed to play in sports or band anymore. A few of the parents that they showed said that it was only done to improve the football team's record because the rest of the sports at Lee has been competing relatively well. Well, that is just pure and utter horseshit.

Lee soccer is good, yes, they are one of the top teams in the city but their basketball, baseball, tennis, golf, softball, volleyball, etc are not good. AT ALL.

So, what do I think the parents that are complaining should do? Eat it and live with the decision because since little Johnnie transfered to the magnet school, little Johnnie's focus should be on his maget school work and not on the football field. And if they don't like it, then go back to whatever school there were regularly scheduled to attend.

Is it harsh? Sure but the reality is that Lee is truly and honestly a school with 4A numbers and they NEED to be in 4A to compete. What is more harsh? Little Jonnhie not being able to play sports while attending the magnet school OR another 2 years of celebrating a 2-8 season and actually thinking and letting the kids think that it was good enough?
Magnet schools should have their own players and teams, not go back and forth to another school to play.

[Rerun]

Magnet schools should have their own players and teams, not go back and forth to another school to play.


I echo that thought. Instead of having magnet schools on seperate campuses all throughout NEISD and NISD, why not just have one school that is divided up into ALL the different magnet schools and then that ONE magnet school could have their own team.

[lonny23]

I echo that thought. Instead of having magnet schools on seperate campuses all throughout NEISD and NISD, why not just have one school that is divided up into ALL the different magnet schools and then that ONE magnet school could have their own team.
On the strength of your posts tonight, I'm voting for you for the Hall of Fame when I do that thread Wide was talking about.

[Rerun]

On the strength of your posts tonight, I'm voting for you for the Hall of Fame when I do that thread Wide was talking about.

Thank you.

I would seriously like to have NEISD consider this idea. Of course, it wil not happen as the magnet campuses are already built and in place, but it's a thought for future school districts. Why take the chance of having this problem? Sure, it costs some extra cash but it's the only way to be fair especially when some parents want to have their cake and eat it too. The ONLY fair thing is to do what they did and that was exclude the magnet schools from the enrollment so that the rest of the actualy school which is at 4A numbers would not have to suffer through another agonizing 2-8 season in football and 1-13 district records in baseball. I do not know the exact number of kids in the magnet program at ISA that also play sports but I would not assume it is a large number based on a stereotype. ISA is a performing arts magnet school and in my day there were not many kids that went from 3rd period drama to 4th preiod athletics....

The whole issue is that some parents want the best of both worlds. They want little Johnnie to go to ISA AND play in the band AND play tennis. It is a give and take situation. Deal with it.

[lonny23]

Thank you.

I would seriously like to have NEISD consider this idea. Of course, it wil not happen as the magnet campuses are already built and in place, but it's a thought for future school districts. Why take the chance of having this problem? Sure, it costs some extra cash but it's the only way to be fair especially when some parents want to have their cake and eat it too. The ONLY fair thing is to do what they did and that was exclude the magnet schools from the enrollment so that the rest of the actualy school which is at 4A numbers would not have to suffer through another agonizing 2-8 season in football and 1-13 district records in baseball. I do not know the exact number of kids in the magnet program at ISA that also play sports but I would not assume it is a large number based on a stereotype. ISA is a performing arts magnet school and in my day there were not many kids that went from 3rd period drama to 4th preiod athletics....

The whole issue is that some parents want the best of both worlds. They want little Johnnie to go to ISA AND play in the band AND play tennis. It is a give and take situation. Deal with it.
I never thought bandies played football either until dragons08 came along, but the more I hear from him, it seems like he's Stifler's brother in band and isn't really a band guy to start with. I doubt the Lee team I grew to love watch losing to Judson had kids from the magnet school playing football.

[mad_fan]

All I have to say about this is that with Lee out (no more bye week:mad: ) and the strength returning to other district teams, Madison better be recruiting like the season depends on it.

[lonny23]

All I have to say about this is that with Lee out (no more bye week:mad: ) and the strength returning to other district teams, Madison better be recruiting like the season depends on it.
They'll probably go back to the same neighborhood as last time, Northampton!:mad: It's bad enough we have to share with Wagner without Madison, too!

[Rerun]

Madison doesn't need outside help. I think they have plenty of talent in their own area. All kidding aside, 26-5A is going to be the toughest district in the state and possibly nation next season. It is FOR REAL in the 265A!

1. Smithson Valley
2. Converse Judson
3. Wagner
4. Reagan

[mad_fan]

They'll probably go back to the same neighborhood as last time, Northampton!:mad: It's bad enough we have to share with Wagner without Madison, too!


Converse Madison...I like it...:D

[mad_fan]

Madison doesn't need outside help. I think they have plenty of talent in their own area. All kidding aside, 26-5A is going to be the toughest district in the state and possibly nation next season. It is FOR REAL in the 265A!

1. Smithson Valley
2. Converse Judson
3. Wagner
4. Reagan


If that happens...I'll run nakid...nevermind...

[Gridiron Gopher]

If that happens...I'll run nakid...nevermind...

LMAO!!!!:eek:

[LoneRocket]

Madison doesn't need outside help. I think they have plenty of talent in their own area. All kidding aside, 26-5A is going to be the toughest district in the state and possibly nation next season. It is FOR REAL in the 265A!

1. Smithson Valley
2. Converse Judson
3. Wagner
4. Reagan
There are no homecomming teams in 265a.

[LoneRocket]

If that happens...I'll run nakid...nevermind...
All right Eagle "mad_fan" Ike.

[RedRage00]

I like LEE :D

RR

[mad_fan]

I like LEE :D

RR

ummm...who'll be the new lee...:confused:

[Mad Hatter]

roosevelt

[SVfootball2008]

So this is all talk? Nothings final yet?

[Reaganrattler07]

There are no homecomming teams in 265a.

Possible candidates: Wagner(doubt it), Reagan(doubt it), Macarthur(doubt it, but possibility in years), Roosevelt(likely), Lee(uh...duh!)

[Slim-Rob]

There are no homecomming teams in 265a.

Lee is back!!!! YAY

If Lee wins district next year I will quit this message board. I PROMISE.

Lee should petition to play all their games at Blossom, therefore nobody can use them for homecoming.

[Reaganrattler07]

Lee is back!!!! YAY

If Lee wins district next year I will quit this message board. I PROMISE.

Lee should petition to play all their games at Blossom, therefore nobody can use them for homecoming.

That wouldn't work....cause you can be the away team and still have homecomming....or at least thats what they did with us last year. Course Comalander is technically our 'home'...but we were the away team.

[Reaganrattler07]

But if Lee does win district and blows every team out.....I will jump off Littleton Gymnasium

[clemensbuff]

Smithson Valley will probably go down to 4A the next alignment after Comal ISD opens Canyon Lake HS.

Not likely with all of the growth CISD is having! At least that is what I'm told by some of the districts employees. Plan on seeing SV in the 26-5a for a few more years after the next two.

[BandidoNB]

Not likely with all of the growth CISD is having! At least that is what I'm told by some of the districts employees. Plan on seeing SV in the 26-5a for a few more years after the next two.

SV currently has 2400 students. If they grow at the rate of 100 a year as they have been, then they will have 2600 students. However, Canyon Lake HS will open in 2007 with about 600-700 students. That would drop their numbers to 1900-2000. And from what I see, 2000 will be 4A numbers in two years.

[DiamondJ2]

Judson will propose a new bond in November. Possibility that on the bond issue will be renovation of Judson Red Campus and building of a new high school on Evans Road past Nagadoches. In 3 years Judson will be back over 4,000 and Wagner will be approaching 3300. Another school will be needed. Judson is growing at the rate of 600 students a year and projected to go to 800 if housing continues to sprout throughout the district like mushrooms.

[Reaganrattler07]

Judson will propose a new bond in November. Possibility that on the bond issue will be renovation of Judson Red Campus and building of a new high school on Evans Road past Nagadoches. In 3 years Judson will be back over 4,000 and Wagner will be approaching 3300. Another school will be needed. Judson is growing at the rate of 600 students a year and projected to go to 800 if housing continues to sprout throughout the district like mushrooms.

Could they include renovating that gym!....maybe purchase a few fans.....

[clemensbuff]

SV currently has 2400 students. If they grow at the rate of 100 a year as they have been, then they will have 2600 students. However, Canyon Lake HS will open in 2007 with about 600-700 students. That would drop their numbers to 1900-2000. And from what I see, 2000 will be 4A numbers in two years.

I wont try and dispute the numbers that you've shown because I myself kind of figured it that way. But, I'm just telling you what I'm hearing from some pretty reliable sources. Also, please don't underestimate how strong Mr. Hill's influence will be on the border lines for the new HS!!!! My money would be on SV staying 5a.

[DiamondJ2]

Could they include renovating that gym!....maybe purchase a few fans.....


You know how the Judson athletic facilities are--average. Locker rooms and coaching offices too small both boys & girls, need new bleachers for football stadium, no AC in fieldhouse except in coaching offices and weight room, terrible ventilation in gym, etc. If football had kept all of the money earned over the years in playoffs, the Rockets would have state of the art facilities for their athletics. Where did that money go? General fund. I am always amused on the perceived percentage that Judson ISD spends on football in the district. Because of Judson's success in football, basketball (boys & girls), track (boys & girls), occassionally the other sports, that the Rockets have outstanding facilities and tons of money goes to the athletic program. As for purchasing fans, Reagan my do the same when they play for the right to go to the playoffs in their final game of the season.

[eingedikid]

Could they include renovating that gym!
Probably the two biggest priorities in the remodeling/rebuilding will be the athletics as well as a new Math/Science Bldg to get on a par with what Wagner has. Close second-tier priorities are new Admin. facilities for Principal, AP's and counselors, and Special Ed. Hopefuly it can all be done in a manner that opens new facilities one step ahead of the wrecking ball and also in order to facilitate the vacating of some of the bldgs worth remodeling (and there are a few there). The fun is about to begin, and hopefully we can soon be a able to see some dirt being moved (for new and replacement facilities) and some debris taken away (for the items to be demolished). One of the several big questions is whether or not the T-Birds and Rockets will need to borrow some neighboring stadiums if the remodeling can't be ready in time for one of the football seasons sometime between now and 2010.

[LoneRocket]

You know how the Judson athletic facilities are--average. Locker rooms and coaching offices too small both boys & girls, need new bleachers for football stadium, no AC in fieldhouse except in coaching offices and weight room, terrible ventilation in gym, etc. If football had kept all of the money earned over the years in playoffs, the Rockets would have state of the art facilities for their athletics. Where did that money go? General fund. I am always amused on the perceived percentage that Judson ISD spends on football in the district. Because of Judson's success in football, basketball (boys & girls), track (boys & girls), occassionally the other sports, that the Rockets have outstanding facilities and tons of money goes to the athletic program. As for purchasing fans, Reagan my do the same when they play for the right to go to the playoffs in their final game of the season.
Yes, I believe some of the football money went into the building of new schools. We did not have no stinkin AC, they do not need no stinking AC, no AC toughens the mind/body.

[LoneRocket]

Probably the two biggest priorities in the remodeling/rebuilding will be the athletics as well as a new Math/Science Bldg to get on a par with what Wagner has. Close second-tier priorities are new Admin. facilities for Principal, AP's and counselors, and Special Ed. Hopefuly it can all be done in a manner that opens new facilities one step ahead of the wrecking ball and also in order to facilitate the vacating of some of the bldgs worth remodeling (and there are a few there). The fun is about to begin, and hopefully we can soon be a able to see some dirt being moved (for new and replacement facilities) and some debris taken away (for the items to be demolished). One of the several big questions is whether or not the T-Birds and Rockets will need to borrow some neighboring stadiums if the remodeling can't be ready in time for one of the football seasons sometime between now and 2010.
I wonder if a bond would pass to build a stadium like round rock isd.

[eingedikid]

I wonder if a bond would pass to build a stadium like round rock isd.It might pass. Then again, maybe not. I think the bigger question is: Do they want to take that chance by proposing something that elaborate at least at this time? The real, absolute priorities are the actual educational facilities, and remodeling the Stadium for out-and-out safety reasons. With that in mind, it might still cost a pretty penny, but it might have a decent chance of being approved if the remodeled stadium were built to match something closer to what Pearland and Hays Consolidated have. Those two aren't fancy, but very functional and neverthless still "nice" and up-to-date. Given the sorry/dangerous shape T-Rock Stadium (I guess you can't just just "Rocket" Stadium anymore) is in, the un-fancy but nice, functional and up-to-date would suit me (and probably a lot of other people) just fine at least at this point in time, given the present alternative. I only have to look at Commalander as a comparison. They built a gaudy-looking, multi-story press box, but the concessions are still decades if not eons behind what even Judson presently has.

[LoneRocket]

It might pass. Then again, maybe not. I think the bigger question is: Do they want to take that chance by proposing something that elaborate at least at this time? The real, absolute priorities are the actual educational facilities, and remodeling the Stadium for out-and-out safety reasons. With that in mind, it might still cost a pretty penny, but it might have a decent chance of being approved if the remodeled stadium were built to match something closer to what Pearland and Hays Consolidated have. Those two aren't fancy, but very functional and neverthless still "nice" and up-to-date. Given the sorry/dangerous shape T-Rock Stadium (I guess you can't just just "Rocket" Stadium anymore) is in, the un-fancy but nice, functional and up-to-date would suit me (and probably a lot of other people) just fine at least at this point in time, given the present alternative. I only have to look at Commalander as a comparison. They built a gaudy-looking, multi-story press box, but the concessions are still decades if not eons behind what even Judson presently has.
I wonder what is the cost of remodeling Judson stadium, (health and safety bond) After visiting Round Rock ISD Stadium it makes you wonder why do we not have something like that. I think the cost of that stadium was 21 million. If it is a line item and they have community input it might have a strong chance of passing and I think it would pay for itself in a few years.

[Reaganrattler07]

You know how the Judson athletic facilities are--average. Locker rooms and coaching offices too small both boys & girls, need new bleachers for football stadium, no AC in fieldhouse except in coaching offices and weight room, terrible ventilation in gym, etc. If football had kept all of the money earned over the years in playoffs, the Rockets would have state of the art facilities for their athletics. Where did that money go? General fund. I am always amused on the perceived percentage that Judson ISD spends on football in the district. Because of Judson's success in football, basketball (boys & girls), track (boys & girls), occassionally the other sports, that the Rockets have outstanding facilities and tons of money goes to the athletic program. As for purchasing fans, Reagan my do the same when they play for the right to go to the playoffs in their final game of the season.

I'm all for putting fans in the Reagan gym as well...but that's North East's call. And they'll get bottom dollar on just about anything. Heck, I don't think there's even been an effort to put grass in our courtyard.

But I dread going to games at Judson and Reagan...primarily cause they don't have really good circulation when there's a bunch of people and I feel like I'm gonna die almost.

[eingedikid]

I wonder what is the cost of remodeling Judson stadium, (health and safety bond) After visiting Round Rock ISD Stadium it makes you wonder why do we not have something like that. I think the cost of that stadium was 21 million. If it is a line item and they have community input it might have a strong chance of passing and I think it would pay for itself in a few years.

RRISD is similar to Waco ISD and Galena Park, and those indeed did cost around $20-25M. The "economy" version would still probably cost about $10M. Possibly what could be done is to put two separate Props on the ballot where people could coose betwen either the "economy" version or the more elaborate one. Some District actually did that, where two "competing" props were put on the ballot, and people were instructed to vote on either one or the other, but not both. The explanation was that, even if both were to somehow pass, the one that got the most "yes" votes was probably the one that a Board would actually proceed with. Basically, what it comes down to is that Bond approvals aren't out-and-out "mandates" per se to sell Bonds for a project, but rather the granting of authority to sell Bonds, which is ultimately a Board's perorgative to either exercise or not exercise the authroity granted. Some strong cases could be made for both the more capital-intensive stadium design or the economy design, and offering both for people to decide on might stimulate the kind of debate needed to ensure that everyone has the chance to weigh both options (as opposed to some "all or nothing" approach so that people are left with having to either choose a $20-25M expenditure or risk still one more year with a fire and safety hazard by voting against it because they were afraid of the cost). The same could actually also be said w/r the overall remodeling of the Red Campus. Perhaps two "competing" props could be proposed there, in which one proposes to do more of an overall replacement, verses another in which portions would be replaced and portions would be remodeled. Once again, some strong arguments could be made for both.

[LoneRocket]

I'm all for putting fans in the Reagan gym as well...but that's North East's call. And they'll get bottom dollar on just about anything. Heck, I don't think there's even been an effort to put grass in our courtyard.

But I dread going to games at Judson and Reagan...primarily cause they don't have really good circulation when there's a bunch of people and I feel like I'm gonna die almost.
That why they keep the back door open, so you can get that gust of wind.:)

[Reaganrattler07]

That why they keep the back door open, so you can get that gust of wind.:)

Ugh...last night at the Reagan-Judson game I think they might've had the heater on because it was "cold outside"....:mad: (that was me...not mad, but suffering from heat exhaustion, lol)

That and it got even hotter when everyone was packed in tight.

[Slim-Rob]

The Judson locker rooms not having A/C is okay. We give the visitors a big fan:D. But don't worry, our varsity room doesn't have a/c either. We need new stands, but not really. If they fix the boards that need fixed and repaint them with the Judson and Wagner Colors (wouldn't grey, black, and red bleachers be sweet?). ONE OF THE ENDZONES WILL BE REPLACED. Right now the endzones are red and say JUDSON and ROCKETS. I think they should put JUDSON and WAGNER, not ROCKETS and THUNDERBIRDS because thunderbirds is too long to put in an endzone. I heard they are just going to put JUDSON and ISD, which would work because they are already talking about another new HS.

[Reaganrattler07]

The Judson locker rooms not having A/C is okay. We give the visitors a big fan:D. But don't worry, our varsity room doesn't have a/c either. We need new stands, but not really. If they fix the boards that need fixed and repaint them with the Judson and Wagner Colors (wouldn't grey, black, and red bleachers be sweet?). ONE OF THE ENDZONES WILL BE REPLACED. Right now the endzones are red and say JUDSON and ROCKETS. I think they should put JUDSON and WAGNER, not ROCKETS and THUNDERBIRDS because thunderbirds is too long to put in an endzone. I heard they are just going to put JUDSON and ISD, which would work because they are already talking about another new HS.

OH YES! The stands....I swear, whenever I jump up and cheer, I can just feel the thing about to collapse and have me go flying all 15 feet towards the ground.

[Slim-Rob]

Ugh...last night at the Reagan-Judson game I think they might've had the heater on because it was "cold outside"....:mad: (that was me...not mad, but suffering from heat exhaustion, lol)

That and it got even hotter when everyone was packed in tight.

There is no A/C and there are no fans in the gym. There are huge heaters on the ceiling (but heat travels up doesnt it????). When you add a bunch of fans to the mix, it adds up to 1 hot room. Seems like our pep rallies are held in an oven, not a gym.

[Slim-Rob]

OH YES! The stands....I swear, whenever I jump up and cheer, I can just feel the thing about to collapse and have me go flying all 15 feet towards the ground.

Dude, there are boards throughout the stands that sag 4-6 inches when you step on them. Whenever I look at the whole stands full, I just think "How does that wood not break?" You think thats bad, if you go on top of the Home Press Box, the roof leans back towards the parking lot. Its kinda scary to be up there on a windy day.

[LoneRocket]

Dude, there are boards throughout the stands that sag 4-6 inches when you step on them. Whenever I look at the whole stands full, I just think "How does that wood not break?" You think thats bad, if you go on top of the Home Press Box, the roof leans back towards the parking lot. Its kinda scary to be up there on a windy day.
Are you saying you do not like running the steps during the off-season.;)

[Reaganrattler07]

Dude, there are boards throughout the stands that sag 4-6 inches when you step on them. Whenever I look at the whole stands full, I just think "How does that wood not break?" You think thats bad, if you go on top of the Home Press Box, the roof leans back towards the parking lot. Its kinda scary to be up there on a windy day.

And when you're walking across the stands you can feel them start to sort of sway from all the movement.

Lol, I'm afraid of heights so I couldn't be on a roof that leans back toward the parking lot.

[bubbacoach]

Dude, there are boards throughout the stands that sag 4-6 inches when you step on them. Whenever I look at the whole stands full, I just think "How does that wood not break?" You think thats bad, if you go on top of the Home Press Box, the roof leans back towards the parking lot. Its kinda scary to be up there on a windy day.
Maybe you should transfer, you obviously hate Judson. You talk about all the violence, the drugs, the facilities, but never say a whole lot posiitive about the place. Maybe you should just transfer to Wagner, you say you live in their attendance zone. Everything they have is band new. STOP YOUR WHINING!

[Reaganrattler07]

Maybe you should transfer, you obviously hate Judson. You talk about all the violence, the drugs, the facilities, but never say a whole lot posiitive about the place. Maybe you should just transfer to Wagner, you say you live in their attendance zone. Everything they have is band new. STOP YOUR WHINING!

And I obviously hate everything because I see shortcommings in everything. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/images/smilies/doh.gif

[Slim-Rob]

Maybe you should transfer, you obviously hate Judson. You talk about all the violence, the drugs, the facilities, but never say a whole lot posiitive about the place. Maybe you should just transfer to Wagner, you say you live in their attendance zone. Everything they have is band new. STOP YOUR WHINING!

sorry I'm not a liar. I could say there is no violence, the facilities are top notch, and its overall the best high school in the world, but ITS NOT. I love Judson, I love the people, the tradition. And if I don't like violence and drugs I better NOT go to Wagner.

[Slim-Rob]

Maybe you should transfer, you obviously hate Judson. You talk about all the violence, the drugs, the facilities, but never say a whole lot posiitive about the place. Maybe you should just transfer to Wagner, you say you live in their attendance zone. Everything they have is band new. STOP YOUR WHINING!

AND if I "obviously hate Judson" then why the hell do I spend so much time on this board defending the football team?

[Mad Hatter]

stands are bad hes right. My best friend was on the soccer team and they had to run bleachers...needless to say he fell through the boards cuz the broke on him :)

[Rerun]

Dude, there are boards throughout the stands that sag 4-6 inches when you step on them. Whenever I look at the whole stands full, I just think "How does that wood not break?" You think thats bad, if you go on top of the Home Press Box, the roof leans back towards the parking lot. Its kinda scary to be up there on a windy day.

Why would you be on the top of the press box?

Just wondering.

[NewSchool]

sorry I'm not a liar. I could say there is no violence, the facilities are top notch, and its overall the best high school in the world, but ITS NOT. I love Judson, I love the people, the tradition. And if I don't like violence and drugs I better NOT go to Wagner.
I am a Sophmore at WAGNER and on the football team. I have been at both schools and the Grey campus was like a prison riot everyday. I have only seen a couple of fights at WAGNER and they were broken up very quickly. And I am sure there are drugs, I just don't hang out with that crowd. I thought judson was for worse when I went there. It just seems that our administrators have everything under better control than they did at judson.:rolleyes:

[NewSchool]

stands are bad hes right. My best friend was on the soccer team and they had to run bleachers...needless to say he fell through the boards cuz the broke on him :)
What did your best friend play, I knew some of the soccer players. Was he on last years team that made it to the Regional Finals?

[Rerun]

I am a Sophmore at WAGNER and on the football team. I have been at both schools and the Grey campus was like a prison riot everyday. I have only seen a couple of fights at WAGNER and they were broken up very quickly. And I am sure there are drugs, I just don't hang out with that crowd. I thought judson was for worse when I went there. It just seems that our administrators have everything under better control than they did at judson.:rolleyes:

I had plenty of friends at Judson and they all told me that the Grey campus was horrible. Maybe because it was the younger kids but they said there were fights every day and they could not wait to get to the red campus.

Once at the red campus, they said it was still a little better but not as good as it should be.

They lived in Olympia and wished that they could go to Clemens or Madison instead of Judson.

[RocketQB]

sorry I'm not a liar. I could say there is no violence, the facilities are top notch, and its overall the best high school in the world, but ITS NOT. I love Judson, I love the people, the tradition. And if I don't like violence and drugs I better NOT go to Wagner.


So now there's violence and drugs at Wagner? :eek: There was a big problem with drugs at Reagan, but I guess that's ok since they are on the Northside, right?

[RocketQB]

I had plenty of friends at Judson and they all told me that the Grey campus was horrible. Maybe because it was the younger kids but they said there were fights every day and they could not wait to get to the red campus.

Once at the red campus, they said it was still a little better but not as good as it should be.

They lived in Olympia and wished that they could go to Clemens or Madison instead of Judson.

I believe the following negative things happens at all schools:

1. Fights
2. Drug use
3. Discrimination
4. Stealing

It's just a matter of to what degree. Maybe Judson students fight more often than those in other school districts, does it mean the school is bad? I would say no--they have problem students-- just like other districts. Roosevelt was in the news because of football players stealing computers, etc. Reagan had drug issues. Should the entire schools have the finger pointed at them because of what those students did? What about the SV kid who put the racist remarks on the Judson school buses? Does that mean the entire SV school/community is racist? Kick those students out of the school. If their parents cannot keep them in line, then why should the school have that responsibility? Make the place better for those who want to learn and get rid of the trouble-makers.

[Reaganrattler07]

I believe the following negative things happens at all schools:

1. Fights
2. Drug use
3. Discrimination
4. Stealing

It's just a matter of to what degree. Maybe Judson students fight more often than those in other school districts, does it mean the school is bad? I would say no--they have problem students-- just like other districts. Roosevelt was in the news because of football players stealing computers, etc. Reagan had drug issues. Should the entire schools have the finger pointed at them because of what those students did? What about the SV kid who put the racist remarks on the Judson school buses? Does that mean the entire SV school/community is racist? Kick those students out of the school. If their parents cannot keep them in line, then why should the school have that responsibility? Make the place better for those who want to learn and get rid of the trouble-makers.


You're exactly right...every school has those problems. Except, one may happen more than another at certain schools.

[Rerun]

You're exactly right...every school has those problems. Except, one may happen more than another at certain schools.

He is right to a certain extent.

The problem is, the examples he used were somewhat of isolated incidents.

You know, a one time deal.

At Judson, the fighting never stopped.

And from what I understand it is somewhat better now that it is not as crowded since Wagner opened up, but, there are still some issues.

The Sv bus thing, a one time deal.

The Judson fighting, something that was complained to me about for 3 years in a row.

I don't know anyone that goes to Judson anymore so I can not say how it is now, but I would hope it's better.

Every school has problmes, but it's to what degree.

If something happens repeatedly, it is not just a one and done, it is a pattern - a way of life at that school.

[Reaganrattler07]

He is right to a certain extent.

The problem is, the examples he used were somewhat of isolated incidents.

You know, a one time deal.

At Judson, the fighting never stopped.

And from what I understand it is somewhat better now that it is not as crowded since Wagner opened up, but, there are still some issues.

The Sv bus thing, a one time deal.

The Judson fighting, something that was complained to me about for 3 years in a row.

I don't know anyone that goes to Judson anymore so I can not say how it is now, but I would hope it's better.

Every school has problmes, but it's to what degree.

If something happens repeatedly, it is not just a one and done, it is a pattern - a way of life at that school.

I meant that everything happened to certain degrees. Some things very minimal, others very high.

[RocketQB]

He is right to a certain extent.
The problem is, the examples he used were somewhat of isolated incidents.
You know, a one time deal.
At Judson, the fighting never stopped.
And from what I understand it is somewhat better now that it is not as crowded since Wagner opened up, but, there are still some issues.
The Sv bus thing, a one time deal.
The Judson fighting, something that was complained to me about for 3 years in a row. I don't know anyone that goes to Judson anymore so I can not say how it is now, but I would hope it's better.
Every school has problmes, but it's to what degree.
If something happens repeatedly, it is not just a one and done, it is a pattern - a way of life at that school.


You are partly right. They were examples of the problems I believe are part of all schools. Yes some schools may have to deal with those problems were regularly than others, but to me, I would not say that is a way of life for that school. You say the SV bus thing was a one time deal, therfore, a one and done. Not a problem, right? How about one time that it became public--exposed! Remember, when that incident went public in the news, what happened next? Someone sprayed the SV field in attempts to make it look like a retaliation only to find out that it was done by someone from SV. Additionally, according to some of the JR football players, during that particular game at SV, they were called the "N" word or if they were not Black-American, they were called "N" lovers. So, if there is any truth to this, would you still not think that's a problem? Only when it becomes exposed it becomes a problem? A problem is a problem. Fighting is a physical action, so of course it is something that is easily exposed. Stealing, drug use, and racism/discrimination are still problems, they are just a little easier to get away with sometimes. For example, I have friends whose children attend Reagan HS. That is how I first learned of the drug problems at the school. From those students parents; however, they were quickly to justify the problem by saying "students who go to Reagan parent's make a lot of money so they can buy drugs easily." I guess that was suppose to make it alright? If the problem was at Sam Houston or Fox Tech or Judson or McCollum, I wonder what the response would have been. As for the fighting at Judson, it still happens but not nearly as much (from what I've been told). I think the opening of Wagner helped because now the ratio of student/staff is not nearly as high. Just some feedback for you. Now let's get back to talking football.

26-5A is still one of the toughest districts in Texas. It's so unfortunate that some good teams will not be making the playoffs. I know Judson and SV lost quite a few players due to graduation this last season. Will be interesting to see how that plays out. Wagner will compete at the varsity level for its' first time. I believe they have a great chance at competing and being a contender in the playoffs. A lot of people doubt them because they are a new school, but remember, they have a great coaching staff and a lot of determination. The JV and freshman teams were good, so we will see what happens. I think the final four teams will be (in no particular order):

1. Judson
2. Wagner
3. Madison
4. Reagan

[Reaganrattler07]

You are partly right. They were examples of the problems I believe are part of all schools. Yes some schools may have to deal with those problems were regularly than others, but to me, I would not say that is a way of life for that school. You say the SV bus thing was a one time deal, therfore, a one and done. Not a problem, right? How about one time that it became public--exposed! Remember, when that incident went public in the news, what happened next? Someone sprayed the SV field in attempts to make it look like a retaliation only to find out that it was done by someone from SV. Additionally, according to some of the JR football players, during that particular game at SV, they were called the "N" word or if they were not Black-American, they were called "N" lovers. So, if there is any truth to this, would you still not think that's a problem? Only when it becomes exposed it becomes a problem? A problem is a problem. Fighting is a physical action, so of course it is something that is easily exposed. Stealing, drug use, and racism/discrimination are still problems, they are just a little easier to get away with sometimes. For example, I have friends whose children attend Reagan HS. That is how I first learned of the drug problems at the school. From those students parents; however, they were quickly to justify the problem by saying "students who go to Reagan parent's make a lot of money so they can buy drugs easily." I guess that was suppose to make it alright? If the problem was at Sam Houston or Fox Tech or Judson or McCollum, I wonder what the response would have been. As for the fighting at Judson, it still happens but not nearly as much (from what I've been told). I think the opening of Wagner helped because now the ratio of student/staff is not nearly as high. Just some feedback for you. Now let's get back to talking football.

26-5A is still one of the toughest districts in Texas. It's so unfortunate that some good teams will not be making the playoffs. I know Judson and SV lost quite a few players due to graduation this last season. Will be interesting to see how that plays out. Wagner will compete at the varsity level for its' first time. I believe they have a great chance at competing and being a contender in the playoffs. A lot of people doubt them because they are a new school, but remember, they have a great coaching staff and a lot of determination. The JV and freshman teams were good, so we will see what happens. I think the final four teams will be (in no particular order):

1. Judson
2. Wagner
3. Madison
4. Reagan

I have some friends from Mac who have told me of similar problems about the things directed to them from SV students. A few fellow Rattlers have told me some of the same things.

As for the Reagan drug problem. A lot of it has to do with the salaries of these students' parents. Churchill has the same problem. Maybe not as much as it once had, but it and Reagan are up there unfortunately.

[Gridiron Gopher]

Stop it! Now!!!!!!
Look, Wagner is going to do great.......some day but it's not going to be this coming season. I don't care how good their coaching is, they don't have the talent (now) and they don't have the depth. Now you put them in 265a and it's not happening in 2006....PERIOD!

They won't beat Judson
They won't beat SV
They won't beat Madison
They won't beat Reagan
They won't beat Churchill
They won't beat MacArthur
They MIGHT beat Roosevelt but I doubt it.
They COULD beat Lee but that's not a lock.

At best they go 2-6-0 in 265a.:p

[Slim-Rob]

Stop it! Now!!!!!!
Look, Wagner is going to do great.......some day but it's not going to be this coming season. I don't care how good their coaching is, they don't have the talent (now) and they don't have the depth. Now you put them in 265a and it's not happening in 2006....PERIOD!

They won't beat Judson
They won't beat SV
They won't beat Madison
They won't beat Reagan
They won't beat Churchill
They won't beat MacArthur
They MIGHT beat Roosevelt but I doubt it.
They COULD beat Lee but that's not a lock.

At best they go 2-6-0 in 265a.:p

Don't say they don't have the talent. I played with some of those kids and they are talented. Great coaching, great dicipline. And why won't they have the depth? They will have 9th through 12th grades next year. They COULD beat mac, churchill, and reagan. Judson, SV, and Madison probably not. But anything can happen.

[Reaganrattler07]

I think we'll see a different madison team without Caflisch and Green....

[Reaganrattler07]

Stop it! Now!!!!!!
Look, Wagner is going to do great.......some day but it's not going to be this coming season. I don't care how good their coaching is, they don't have the talent (now) and they don't have the depth. Now you put them in 265a and it's not happening in 2006....PERIOD!

They won't beat Judson
They won't beat SV
They won't beat Madison
They won't beat Reagan
They won't beat Churchill
They won't beat MacArthur
They MIGHT beat Roosevelt but I doubt it.
They COULD beat Lee but that's not a lock.

At best they go 2-6-0 in 265a.:p

*sigh*....Why did you have to go to Mac.....why not come to the other side :p

[Gridiron Gopher]

Maybe I should have said they dont' have "enough" talent. Yes they will have "some" talent but not enough to beat out the top 4-5 teams in 265a. I love your passion for Wagner and they will be good but not this year. Sorry!

[Gridiron Gopher]

*sigh*....Why did you have to go to Mac.....why not come to the other side :p

I'll make it worst.......I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan too! :D

[Slim-Rob]

Maybe I should have said they dont' have "enough" talent. Yes they will have "some" talent but not enough to beat out the top 4-5 teams in 265a. I love your passion for Wagner and they will be good but not this year. Sorry!

Judson does not have a lot of talent returning next year. SV is rebuilding. Whats to say they won't have an off year?

[Gridiron Gopher]

Judson does not have a lot of talent returning next year. SV is rebuilding. Whats to say they won't have an off year?

They could but I don't think that will happen.

[Reaganrattler07]

I'll make it worst.......I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan too! :D

LOL. So long as your not obnoxious or arrogant. Then there's no problem with me. But it is a shame you had to be a Brahma and not a Rattler. http://www.thewarpath.net/images/smilies/smashfreakB.gif

[Slim-Rob]

LOL. So long as your not obnoxious or arrogant. Then there's no problem with me. But it is a shame you had to be a Brahma and not a Rattler. http://www.thewarpath.net/images/smilies/smashfreakB.gif

Who wants to be a Rattler???:eek:

[Reaganrattler07]

Who wants to be a Rattler???:eek:

Obviously all the people moving into the nice houses going up:p

[Gridiron Gopher]

LOL. So long as your not obnoxious or arrogant. Then there's no problem with me. But it is a shame you had to be a Brahma and not a Rattler. http://www.thewarpath.net/images/smilies/smashfreakB.gif

LOL! What can I say. It makes for fun smack talk. Look, here we are in February and we're debating who's going to make the playoffs. I love it.

[SeguinMatadors]

Who wants to be a Rattler???:eek:

I'd rather be a Reagan Rattler than a San Marcos Rattler!

[Reaganrattler07]

LOL! What can I say. It makes for fun smack talk. Look, here we are in February and we're debating who's going to make the playoffs. I love it.

Haha....and plus, across the hallway in my house, is my sisters room which (she went to Mac and played in many sports) and her room is loaded with Mac stuff.

[Reaganrattler07]

I'd rather be a Reagan Rattler than a San Marcos Rattler!

Purple or Green....I think that silences the arguement....

[Gridiron Gopher]

Haha....and plus, across the hallway in my house, is my sisters room which (she went to Mac and played in many sports) and her room is loaded with Mac stuff.

So your saying that your sister is the cool kid in the family:p

[Reaganrattler07]

So your saying that your sister is the cook kid in the family:p

She's actually the smart onehttp://www.extremeskins.com/forums/images/smilies/doh.gif....she was in all the honor societies at Mac and then when she was at A&M, she graduated summa cum laude. And she was really athletic in HS....

[Slim-Rob]

RED is better than green and purple:D

[Reaganrattler07]

RED is better than green and purple:D

http://www.thewarpath.net/images/smilies/vomit-smiley-007.gif

[Gridiron Gopher]

http://www.thewarpath.net/images/smilies/vomit-smiley-007.gif

I couldn't have said it better. :D

[Slim-Rob]

http://www.thewarpath.net/images/smilies/vomit-smiley-007.gif

nice one....

[Reaganrattler07]

I couldn't have said it better. :D

LMAO!

But Green and Blue are the better colors.

[Reaganrattler07]

nice one....

Home of the rockets? Didn't know you lived in the middle of nowhere in a gigantic hole in the ground :p

[SeguinMatadors]

It's all about the black and gold fellas'

[Reaganrattler07]

It's all about the black and gold fellas'

Those aren't too bad either....my old school (the one i was at for freshman year) had black and gold....and they were the Panthers...

[Slim-Rob]

Those aren't too bad either....my old school (the one i was at for freshman year) had black and gold....and they were the Panthers...

O'Conner?

[Reaganrattler07]

O'Conner?

Nope, it was out of.....State

[Slim-Rob]

Nope, it was out of.....State

Oh. I bet they were better at football than Reagan though:D

[Reaganrattler07]

Oh. I bet they were better at football than Reagan though:D

Lol, they didn't have football like we know it.....

My old school (http://www.isb.ac.th/)

[Gridiron Gopher]

Oh. I bet they were better at football than Reagan though:D

Ouch! The Rocket fires back!:p

[Reaganrattler07]

Ouch! The Rocket fires back!:p

Ah well....we "striked"'em in *takes deep breath* Volleyball, boys basketball, swimming, i believe cross country, probably golf, tennis, and soon to be baseball and mostlikely softball :p

[Gridiron Gopher]

Ah well....we "striked"'em in *takes deep breath* Volleyball, boys basketball, swimming, i believe cross country, probably golf, tennis, and soon to be baseball and mostlikely softball :p

Ok, I think what we have going here is something like this:

RocketTRN said......It taste great!

Reaganrattler07 said.....It's less filling!

I think you guys should throw down. :D

[Reaganrattler07]

Ok, I think what we have going here is something like this:

RocketTRN said......It taste great!

Reaganrattler07 said.....It's less filling!

I think you guys should throw down. :D

http://www.thewarpath.net/images/smilies/fighting56.gif

[Gridiron Gopher]

http://www.thewarpath.net/images/smilies/fighting56.gif

I will have to admit. You have some great smilies.

[Reaganrattler07]

I will have to admit. You have some great smilies.

I have the Redskins Boards to thank for that :p