High school playoff games might lose out to other events at Cowboys Stadium

[CCCSportsFan]

From today's Fort Worth StarTelegram...

High school playoff games might lose out to other events at Cowboys Stadium

Texas Stadium hosted nearly 700 high school games, giving players like Everman’s Marcus McAdoo something to remember.

Because of several scheduled events already in place for November and December at Cowboys Stadium, the Cowboys have not been able to finalize any playoff games.

Playoff double- and tripleheaders were a yearly ritual at Texas Stadium, where almost 700 high school games were played during its 38-year history. Last season, the stadium hosted 27 playoff games.

"We’ve been working with some of the high schools to see what the schedule is going to be," Cowboys spokesman Brett Daniels said. "But I think because of all of the other events that we have committed to the building in November and December, we have not been able to finalize any specifics on what games we can host."

Aside from Cowboys games scheduled during those months, the stadium is set to host Baylor vs. Texas Tech on Nov. 28, the Big 12 Championship on Dec. 5, and the Texas vs. North Carolina basketball game on Dec. 19.

High school playoffs begin the weekend of Nov. 13.

"All I heard was they were going to have the same philosophy as they did at Texas Stadium, which was to host games," said Euless Trinity coach Steve Lineweaver, whose team played four playoff games at Texas Stadium in 2008. "But there are going to be some dates that are going to be wiped out because of a concert or something. They want to continue to cater to high schools, but they have to pay that bill.

"I think the Dallas Cowboys organization is in the 'finding their way’ mode. I think their No. 1 priority is if they can get a Paul McCartney concert instead of a high school playoff game, they are going to do that."

Daniels said that interest has been high from teams wanting to play playoff games in the new stadium. Several regular season games are already scheduled, including four on Sept. 7 as part of the Kirk Herbstreit Varsity Football Series.

"It’s always been important to us to have a role in Texas high school football," Daniels said. "We hosted hundreds of games over the years at Texas Stadium and would certainly want to maintain that commitment at the new stadium. We are still working through how that can happen."

In that Sept. 7 four-pack, Trinity will take on South Jordan (Utah) Bingham at 10:30 a.m. in the first high school game at the stadium. Colleyville Heritage and Irving MacArthur will follow at 1:30 p.m., Mansfield Summit and Mansfield Timberview play at 4:30 p.m., Klein Oak and Sherman Oaks (Calif.) Notre Dame play at 7:30 p.m.

Though not focused that far down the line, Lineweaver said teams would have to settle for other stadiums for the playoffs if it doesn’t work out with Cowboys Stadium.

"Even if it comes to a home-and-home flip," he said. "That’s what we’ll have to do."

[JagDad07]

Meh. Most people have to play their playoff games in their own stadiums or nuetral sites. Welcome to what the rest of the world has to deal with come playoff time.

[chhspantherfan]

Economic impact ? Wonder what the difference in dollars is between the following and HS playoff games?

Baylor vs. Texas Tech on Nov. 28, the Big 12 Championship on Dec. 5, and the Texas vs. North Carolina basketball game on Dec. 19.

[DragonFan0316]

Typical Jerry Jones. He is one of the worst corperate neighbors I have seen. Who needs his place. HS playoffs are entertaining no matter where they are played.

[bobsharmon]

Typical Jerry Jones. He is one of the worst corperate neighbors I have seen. Who needs his place. HS playoffs are entertaining no matter where they are played.

In the past $10 would get you up to 4 games in Texas Stadium. What do you think Jerry would charge in his new stadium? $40, $50, $60.....

[DragonFan0316]

In the past $10 would get you up to 4 games in Texas Stadium. What do you think Jerry would charge in his new stadium? $40, $50, $60.....

Who knows? He has no conscience.:mad:

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Meh. Most people have to play their playoff games in their own stadiums or nuetral sites. Welcome to what the rest of the world has to deal with come playoff time.

I always like going to the playoff games at Texas Stadium. But, it does/will make for a better atmosphere by playing at the smaller, regular high school stadiums.

[TrinityTrojan80]

In the past $10 would get you up to 4 games in Texas Stadium. What do you think Jerry would charge in his new stadium? $40, $50, $60.....

I was thinking that the future may be prices like that to be able to have a H.S. game in the stadium.

In 2009 the only H.S games scheduled are being played on September 7th and that is at a reasonable price of $15 and $10 per student. Who knows, the price may be too hign to have any furture games in the stadium.

However, if we fill up the stadium for September 7th it may open the door for the future because of the $$ brought in overall.

[hollywood]

I was thinking that the future may be prices like that to be able to have a H.S. game in the stadium.

In 2009 the only H.S games scheduled are being played on September 7th and that is at a reasonable price of $15 and $10 per student. Who knows, the price may be too hign to have any furture games in the stadium.

However, if we fill up the stadium for September 7th it may open the door for the future because of the $$ brought in overall.

My guess is .......

$15 per day but remember that parking will be $40. Sooooo. That is not too bad if one car pools. i.e. groups meet up somewhere, park their vehicles and take on vehicle in a load. Then it is not so bad. Everything has a cost. Many folks complained about the old stadium ... well that is fixed. It costs more and opportunites will be less frequent. Such is life.
I am looking forward to seeing some playoff games in the new stadium. I would be ok with $20 for the day and chipping in for parking. Just my feelings.

[CCCSportsFan]

I was thinking that the future may be prices like that to be able to have a H.S. game in the stadium.

In 2009 the only H.S games scheduled are being played on September 7th and that is at a reasonable price of $15 and $10 per student. Who knows, the price may be too hign to have any furture games in the stadium.

However, if we fill up the stadium for September 7th it may open the door for the future because of the $$ brought in overall.

The loyal Trojan fanbase might just do that :notworthy

[Magellan]

Didn't the Jerrydome already mess up and forget to be open for the 5A State Title games?

I heard a rumor they're going to play the games at Reliant again. Any confirmation/denial on this?

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Didn't the Jerrydome already mess up and forget to be open for the 5A State Title games?

I heard a rumor they're going to play the games at Reliant again. Any confirmation/denial on this?

Well, if they did play it at the Boss Hogg Bowl this year, then Reliant would've been getting shafted. They're suppose to rotate every 2 years. San Antonio had it for 2 years and, last year was only the first of 2 years that it was suppose to be in Houston. So, in all actuality, it's suppose to be in Houston this year.

[tigerfan2010]

$50.00 parking.... That says it all, and that is the cheapest!

[bob1122]

Economic impact ? Wonder what the difference in dollars is between the following and HS playoff games?

Baylor vs. Texas Tech on Nov. 28, the Big 12 Championship on Dec. 5, and the Texas vs. North Carolina basketball game on Dec. 19.
HS playoff game = 10k-20k in attendence. Baylor vs Tech will have 30k+, the big 12 championship will be sold out.

In the past $10 would get you up to 4 games in Texas Stadium. What do you think Jerry would charge in his new stadium? $40, $50, $60.....
You do know that the schools got to keep 100% of the money from the tickets they sold at the game. Only money Jerry got was day of game tickets sales and $5 parking(note - Waco ISD charges for parking too)

Who knows? He has no conscience.:mad:
You do know it only cost the teams $800 to rent out Texas stadium as opposed to 1,500-3,000 some high schools cost. They provided everything for teams and even went out of their way to make commemorative name plates for every single player(I have one).


In 2009 the only H.S games scheduled are being played on September 7th and that is at a reasonable price of $15 and $10 per student. Who knows, the price may be too hign to have any furture games in the stadium.

The UIL charged $15 for only 2 games on state championship day.

Didn't the Jerrydome already mess up and forget to be open for the 5A State Title games?

I heard a rumor they're going to play the games at Reliant again. Any confirmation/denial on this?
No they did not. The UIL had Reliant booked for last year and this year and decided to change it at the last minute.
The UIL messed this one up. They should have booked the date last year, not a month before the season started.


It's just to stupid to think that a HS game which might draw 10,000 should have priority over 80,000 for a huge concert or the Big 12 championship. Unless Allen or some other top 5 team is playing, the crowds are not big at all. Also, there were some Saturdays last year and the year before that had 0 games being played there. Why should Jerry hold open every Saturday date when there may not even be teams to play?

I hate Jerry and some of his prices as much as everyone else, but it's funny seeing people getting mad without even knowing the facts.

[DrEdward]

HS playoff game = 10k-20k in attendence. Baylor vs Tech will have 30k+, the big 12 championship will be sold out.


You do know that the schools got to keep 100% of the money from the tickets they sold at the game. Only money Jerry got was day of game tickets sales and $5 parking(note - Waco ISD charges for parking too)


You do know it only cost the teams $800 to rent out Texas stadium as opposed to 1,500-3,000 some high schools cost. They provided everything for teams and even went out of their way to make commemorative name plates for every single player(I have one).


The UIL charged $15 for only 2 games on state championship day.


No they did not. The UIL had Reliant booked for last year and this year and decided to change it at the last minute.
The UIL messed this one up. They should have booked the date last year, not a month before the season started.


It's just to stupid to think that a HS game which might draw 10,000 should have priority over 80,000 for a huge concert or the Big 12 championship. Unless Allen or some other top 5 team is playing, the crowds are not big at all. Also, there were some Saturdays last year and the year before that had 0 games being played there. Why should Jerry hold open every Saturday date when there may not even be teams to play?

I hate Jerry and some of his prices as much as everyone else, but it's funny seeing people getting mad without even knowing the facts.

We've been through this before with respect to the TS pricing. Jerry received substantially more per game than $800 rental. The narrowly-defined rental price was approximately $1500 for Texas Stadium. But in addition, there were the expenses which also had to be paid for by the schools, such as police, electricity, gate workers, etc. This ended up putting the price tag for a game at Texas Stadium in the range of $10,000. In additon, Jerry received all the parking from the stadium lots and, of course, the concession profits.

[Favpack]

Just move 'em to the Cotton Bowl or SMU :eek:

[SWMHebron]

Just move 'em to the Cotton Bowl or SMU :eek:

We've had this discussion.

The Cotton Bowl has a grass field that might not hold up to 4 games in a day and SMU has restrictions on the number of high school games that can be played at their stadium.

Apparently UNT is interested in this market once their new stadium is done.

[DragonFan0316]

HS playoff game = 10k-20k in attendence. Baylor vs Tech will have 30k+, the big 12 championship will be sold out.


You do know that the schools got to keep 100% of the money from the tickets they sold at the game. Only money Jerry got was day of game tickets sales and $5 parking(note - Waco ISD charges for parking too)


You do know it only cost the teams $800 to rent out Texas stadium as opposed to 1,500-3,000 some high schools cost. They provided everything for teams and even went out of their way to make commemorative name plates for every single player(I have one).


The UIL charged $15 for only 2 games on state championship day.


No they did not. The UIL had Reliant booked for last year and this year and decided to change it at the last minute.
The UIL messed this one up. They should have booked the date last year, not a month before the season started.


It's just to stupid to think that a HS game which might draw 10,000 should have priority over 80,000 for a huge concert or the Big 12 championship. Unless Allen or some other top 5 team is playing, the crowds are not big at all. Also, there were some Saturdays last year and the year before that had 0 games being played there. Why should Jerry hold open every Saturday date when there may not even be teams to play?

I hate Jerry and some of his prices as much as everyone else, but it's funny seeing people getting mad without even knowing the facts.

Bob - We know the facts. We are not idiots. Are you kidding with that crap?? Sometime it should not just be about the money. Goodwill and tradition would matter to an owner who had some sense of being a good corporate neighbor. This isn't about facts Bozo. Are you really Jerry?

[TrinityTrojan80]

My guess is .......

$15 per day but remember that parking will be $40. Sooooo. That is not too bad if one car pools. i.e. groups meet up somewhere, park their vehicles and take on vehicle in a load. Then it is not so bad. Everything has a cost. Many folks complained about the old stadium ... well that is fixed. It costs more and opportunites will be less frequent. Such is life.
I am looking forward to seeing some playoff games in the new stadium. I would be ok with $20 for the day and chipping in for parking. Just my feelings.

Parking for September 7th is $10 I believe, after that ???

[Pinion]

I still stand by what I said last year during the playoffs. The UIL should buy Texas Stadium and operate it as a venue for HS games and whatever else and rent it out to concerts and crap the rest of the time. Make the fee to use it low enough to where nobody will want to rent it for anything else (but still turn a profit) and that way the tradition of playing ball at Texas Stadium can continue.

[SLC]

I still stand by what I said last year during the playoffs. The UIL should buy Texas Stadium and operate it as a venue for HS games and whatever else and rent it out to concerts and crap the rest of the time. Make the fee to use it low enough to where nobody will want to rent it for anything else (but still turn a profit) and that way the tradition of playing ball at Texas Stadium can continue.



They would have to purchase alot of things for the stadium that were gutted out of it when Jerry had his yard sale, including every urinal in the place, as well as all the seats.

[Pinion]

They would have to purchase alot of things for the stadium that were gutted out of it when Jerry had his yard sale, including every urinal in the place, as well as all the seats.


now that you say that, I clearly recall you and I having that discussion back in December. Nevermind then.
Do we know who it was that allowed J_Jones into Texas in the first place? That person needs their arse kicked.

[SLC]

now that you say that, I clearly recall you and I having that discussion back in December. Nevermind then.
Do we know who it was that allowed J_Jones into Texas in the first place? That person needs their arse kicked.



I blame it on the incestuous swine.

[Pinion]

I blame it on the incestuous swine.

The folks from Oklahoma let him in? hows that work?:D

[SLC]

The folks from Oklahoma let him in? hows that work?:D


Eh, Arkansas actually, but Oklahoma, Arkansas...whats the difference?:D

[Pinion]

Eh, Arkansas actually, but Oklahoma, Arkansas...whats the difference?:D

I get the 2 confused. Methheads and trailertrash all the look the same anyway. :eek:

[SLC]

I get the 2 confused. Methheads and trailertrash all the look the same anyway. :eek:


:laugh

[SWMHebron]

I get the 2 confused. Methheads and trailertrash all the look the same anyway. :eek:

My oldest daughter (not the one at the 6-5A get together) lives in Oklahama. I try to be offended by stuff like this but as a 7th generation Texas, I have to agree.

[Firebird]

If the folks out in Arlington had been smart, they would have negotiated with JJ a requirement that he host X number of PO games a year at a defined price as a condition of receiving the enormous funding he got from them.

[hollywood]

Parking for September 7th is $10 I believe, after that ???

Ah.. Great news. I was going by what someone told me about what they had to pay for another event. Wow. Maybe they will limit the parking costs for the high school games. Doing so is ultimately good business for Jerry. That said, he does not have to do it all. It is great for the fans but even better for the players to have these events there.

[bigdaddydog]

So what is he doing hosting a basketball game? Sounds like he is poking a sharp stick at Hicks and the AA Center.

Not only is this whole deal causing me to miss Texas Stadium, but Hank Schramm and Tom Landry too. :mad:

Bad Jerry! Bad Jerry!!! :D

I am sure things will end up working out for some playoff games, It may just take a while to get anywhere close to what things were like at TS.

Basketball, sheesh!!:rolleyes:


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[cougardude]

So what is he doing hosting a basketball game? Sounds like he is poking a sharp stick at Hicks and the AA Center.

Not only is this whole deal causing me to miss Texas Stadium, but Hank Schramm and Tom Landry too. :mad:

Bad Jerry! Bad Jerry!!! :D

I am sure things will end up working out for some playoff games, It may just take a while to get anywhere close to what things were like at TS.

Basketball, sheesh!!:rolleyes:


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Yep, basketball. And the new stadium is already in the books to host the NCAA Men's Final Four in 2014 I believe.

[reed35]

Jerry lied again to get his way.

[allendad]

Jerry lied again to get his way.




Now, that suprises me . . . . .










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[hollywood]

I love the AA center. It is a great venue. However, the game in question is going to bring a large number of folks to this area and they will be spending some serious money. I am thinking that the festivities involve the AA center prior to the game itself. I could be wrong. But they could raise the NBA All Star game to a whole other level over a few days. Maybe this area will be able to host this event periodically.

Folks love to bash on Jerry and Mark. How boring things would be without them. ;)

There are four high school games coming up at the stadium ... I guess this is a glass is half full / half empty discussion ....

[Stands junky]

well they wont be having any cowboy playoff games to worry about :D HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!;)

[jbusch]

Step back from the HS football point of View -

First of all I am not a JJ fan. IMO he needs to keep out of the football aspect of the Cowboys as he is is goofing it up once again IMO.

However he is a brilliant business man.

I worked at the Cowboy Game Friday night selling parking tickets in the Ranger lots that are leased out to the Cowboys. I was in the $60 lot ( along with sevral other sellers ) and I handled over 300 transactions.
There are several million people in the 100 mile radius of the stadium to draw fans from along with the many fans from out of state and the central texas area that came through the lot. Thus you have to have about a 2-3% sucker rate of the population in order to fill the stadium and pay its' high prices. Jerry knows what the market will bear for pricing.

You mention that Jones should give deals to HS football for public relations reasons. He also knows what the market will bear for HS games and the $10 parking is reasonable - all things considered. How many of you that own or hope to own businesses actually give massive discounts for public relations reasons? Tough to do when you have payments to make on the operation.

If the prices turn out to be too high they will be adjusted as the Rangers did this year. But for now Jerry is charging those prices and scheduling the more profitabe events because he can and he needs to.

Many of you - as I do - love HS Football because of its' perceived innocence and the realistic display of the game. Be careful not to push it in the direction that has spoiled the pro version.

[bob1122]

If the folks out in Arlington had been smart, they would have negotiated with JJ a requirement that he host X number of PO games a year at a defined price as a condition of receiving the enormous funding he got from them.
I'm sure high school football games were at the top of Arlington's concerns when it came to negotiating to bring a $1.1B empire to their economy.

Look back at playoffs last year and the year before. There were some weekends where NO games were even played at Texas Stadium. Why should Jerry have to hold open every Friday and Saturday date for 6 weeks for a game that MIGHT happen.

And apparently teams were shelling out $10,000 to play at the PoS Texas Stadium. Since Jerry is so greedy and would charge $50,000 to play here, what makes you think anyone would even want to or could even afford to play there except HP and SLC?

[bob1122]

We've been through this before with respect to the TS pricing. Jerry received substantially more per game than $800 rental. The narrowly-defined rental price was approximately $1500 for Texas Stadium. But in addition, there were the expenses which also had to be paid for by the schools, such as police, electricity, gate workers, etc. This ended up putting the price tag for a game at Texas Stadium in the range of $10,000. In additon, Jerry received all the parking from the stadium lots and, of course, the concession profits.
No. Just, no.

[DrEdward]

No. Just, no.

What are you disagreeing with?

[bob1122]

What are you disagreeing with?
The $10,000 cost after it's all said and done.