McNeal continues to impress.

[biki1121]

McNeal continues to impress at the Shrine game. Another e-mail this morning from my press buddy said a ton of teams jumping through hoops to talk to Reggie given his practice performances. I guess we see what proper coaching can do with talent. Interesting that a NFL passing guy is working with Reggie and now he is lighting it up. Coach Franchionne, please take notice.


Here is the link to a SA Express article.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/football/stories/MYSA011806.1C.FBCshrine.mcneal.1231c096.html

[stevefoxsc]

that's why good football player's shouldn't go to A&M

[Favpack]

Rest assured - if Reggie lights it up in the next 1-2 years - Fran's booty flame gets hotter at A&M - if he lays two more eggs - he's history.

[slorch]

that's why good football player's shouldn't go to A&M
now that is the best thing I've heard in awhile!

[stevefoxsc]

honestly reggie should have been an heismen canidate but fran took that away

[wide-e-wide]

that's why good football player's shouldn't go to A&M


I called that one before Reggie even graduated from Lufkin High School.
I had a bad vibe from day 1.

[Texasfrog]

I called that one before Reggie even graduated from Lufkin High School.
I had a bad vibe from day 1.


I didnt like Reggie going to A&M either. Not because I dont like Tx A&M (which I dont like them) but because Tx A&M is known as the QB graveyard.

Texas A&M never "NEVER" makes QB's any better. Those kids come and go from Tx A&M and they arent any better then when they graduated High school.:eek:

[wide-e-wide]

I didnt like Reggie going to A&M either. Not because I dont like Tx A&M (which I dont like them) but because Tx A&M is known as the QB graveyard.

Texas A&M never "NEVER" makes QB's any better. Those kids come and go from Tx A&M and they arent any better then when they graduated High school.:eek:


Except the next guy...aggy must be the only team in the world...that every time a QB graduates....the guy coming up after him is better...every damn time they say that.
And it is always a freakin' lie.............because the coaches ruin them.

[Texasfrog]

Except the next guy...aggy must be the only team in the world...that every time a QB graduates....the guy coming up after him is better...every damn time they say that.
And it is always a freakin' lie.............because the coaches ruin them.

Ya.... the next one is always the "ONE" and is always going to be better.

I really feel sorry for Aggie. IF they ever got a real offensive coach and QB coach it might help them.

I do think Stephen Mcgee has some good natural talent (like most Aggie recruits) but if he tries to play all year like he did in the Texas game. He'll spend more time in the E.R. then on the football field.:eek:

[wide-e-wide]

And why in the world is Fran coaching this game?
Was Dom Capers not available or what?

[biki1121]

I do think Stephen Mcgee has some good natural talent (like most Aggie recruits) but if he tries to play all year like he did in the Texas game. He'll spend more time in the E.R. then on the football field.:eek:


Brother, don't have a fit about this because I didn't say it, one of ya'lls fellow Horns said this on T+2 (scout site).

"Why do you say McGee is going to get killed? I remember Aggy saying the same thing about Vince and his running recklessly into the teeth of a defense. Superman turned out just fine or do you not agree. I'm not saying McGee is Vince by any means but the similarities scare the hell outta me. Big time passers in prep ball, both a threat to run, and both natural leaders. The kid just showed you he can play."



Now back to my thoughts. I will give you that A&M hasn't "developed" any QBs. But Bucky was was a great and also a curse. His talent was tough running and marginal passing. That kind of set the standard for A&M QBs. RC desperately tried to recruit dual-threats because it was obvious the "classic drop back passer" was never coming to A&M. Then came Reggie. I won't speculate if RC would have further developed Reggie but I would seriously doubt RC would have tried to make the kid into an option QB. The special talented QB A&M RC needed arrived on campus but RC's fate had already been sealed. Reggie under RC would have been a Heisman contender and Reggie wouldn't have had a losing record.

Finally, RC did have the stigma for QBs, which is actually suprising if you think about it due his development of players at other positions. LB, OL, DL, DB, RB were all areas where A&M was considered a solid developer of talent. WRs and QB was always a lack however.

[wide-e-wide]

Please tell me you didn't just bust out with a Bucky reference?

Oh dear Lord...aggy is just pitiful.

[biki1121]

Another thought that I had, Reggie is working with an NFL QB coach who isn't employed right now. The guy is obviously doing well and helping Reggie out. So if the guy isn't employed why in the world would a college coach not go get this guy JUST to work with his QB. I mean honestly if you were the head coach and you knew a NFL QB COACH was available for employment, why in the world wouldn't you get the guy on staff.

I learned along time ago if you want to be better at your job, then surround yourself with the best people. They can only make you look better.

[biki1121]

Wide,

I referenced Bucky as the example of why A&M didn't get some of those big recruits. Bucky was great while he was at CS but it also set the stage for the future of A&M QBs. Could you imagine bringing in a 6'4" drop back passer that is 40 timed with a sundial being brought in to take over for Vince???? Vince just set a standard for UT QBs for quite some time, I give you RP and Snead as your example. That big lug that wants to set in the pocket and fire away goes to SC, Florida, Louisville, etc.....

[wide-e-wide]

Wide,

I referenced Bucky as the example of why A&M didn't get some of those big recruits. Bucky was great while he was at CS but it also set the stage for the future of A&M QBs. Could you imagine bringing in a 6'4" drop back passer that is 40 timed with a sundial being brought in to take over for Vince???? Vince just set a standard for UT QBs for quite some time, I give you RP and Snead as your example. That big lug that wants to set in the pocket and fire away goes to SC, Florida, Louisville, etc.....


You're right...anybody that follows Vince will look really slow by comparison.
But Bucky?
You went deep in the illegal recruiting archives for that one.

[dragonfootballfan]

Wide,

I referenced Bucky as the example of why A&M didn't get some of those big recruits. Bucky was great while he was at CS but it also set the stage for the future of A&M QBs. Could you imagine bringing in a 6'4" drop back passer that is 40 timed with a sundial being brought in to take over for Vince???? Vince just set a standard for UT QBs for quite some time, I give you RP and Snead as your example. That big lug that wants to set in the pocket and fire away goes to SC, Florida, Louisville, etc.....
there is no way a pocket passer goes to Florida while the Urban legend is there

[biki1121]

You are right on the florida. I keep forgetting Urban is there now. But you still understand the point I am making.


Dang boo (Wide), why you gotta bring up an old ghost like the 88 recruiting scandal???? Or don't you remember your NCAA troubles just slightly before then?

[dragonfootballfan]

You are right on the florida. I keep forgetting Urban is there now. But you still understand the point I am making.


Dang boo (Wide), why you gotta bring up an old ghost like the 88 recruiting scandal???? Or don't you remember your NCAA troubles just slightly before then?
Is Aggy really trying to compare NCAA scandals? Really?

[wide-e-wide]

You are right on the florida. I keep forgetting Urban is there now. But you still understand the point I am making.


Dang boo (Wide), why you gotta bring up an old ghost like the 88 recruiting scandal???? Or don't you remember your NCAA troubles just slightly before then?


I think aggy scandal trumps any scandal to ever come out of Austin...politicians included.

And if you ever call me boo again...I will smack you with my commemorative edition National Champions Sports Illustrated.

[Texasfrog]

Brother, don't have a fit about this because I didn't say it, one of ya'lls fellow Horns said this on T+2 (scout site).

"Why do you say McGee is going to get killed? I remember Aggy saying the same thing about Vince and his running recklessly into the teeth of a defense. Superman turned out just fine or do you not agree. I'm not saying McGee is Vince by any means but the similarities scare the hell outta me. Big time passers in prep ball, both a threat to run, and both natural leaders. The kid just showed you he can play."



Now back to my thoughts. I will give you that A&M hasn't "developed" any QBs. But Bucky was was a great and also a curse. His talent was tough running and marginal passing. That kind of set the standard for A&M QBs. RC desperately tried to recruit dual-threats because it was obvious the "classic drop back passer" was never coming to A&M. Then came Reggie. I won't speculate if RC would have further developed Reggie but I would seriously doubt RC would have tried to make the kid into an option QB. The special talented QB A&M RC needed arrived on campus but RC's fate had already been sealed. Reggie under RC would have been a Heisman contender and Reggie wouldn't have had a losing record.

Finally, RC did have the stigma for QBs, which is actually suprising if you think about it due his development of players at other positions. LB, OL, DL, DB, RB were all areas where A&M was considered a solid developer of talent. WRs and QB was always a lack however.

Well... first.... Not trying to sound like a smart ***. But, you cant hurt what you cant catch, touch or come close to tackling (ie. Vince Young).

Vince Young has blinding speed and moves and throw in the whole package he's about 6-5/230. Ouch !!!

Stephen McGee isnt near as fast or has the moves and aint near as big.

He took several "HUGE HITS" in the Texas game that I thought his career may end that day before my eyes. I know he's a gamer bigtime and he's tough as leather. But, you cant play that way every Saturday and take those type of hits and pounding and last all season.

Stepen McGee took more big hard hits in that 1 Texas game then Vincent Young took all season and I'm not kidding.

[biki1121]

Here's the link!

https://goomer.ncaa.org/wdbctx/LSDBi/LSDBi.MajorInfPackage.ProcessMultipleBylaws?p_Mult iple=0&p_PK=442&p_Button=View+Public+Report&p_TextTerms=ThisIsADummyPhraseThatWillNotBeDuplica ted&p_TextTerms2=ThisIsADummyPhraseThatWillNotBeDuplic ated&p_Division=

My point is this. Jackie was cheating, period, end of story. He shouldn't have and he got caught. Improprieties go on at every major university and at all levels. Some are intentional and some are not. Some are done with the athletics departments awareness and some are done behind the AD's back by a booster. But UT fans forget they are not perfect either.

[wide-e-wide]

But UT fans forget they are not perfect either.

13-0

Looks pretty perfect to me.:D

[biki1121]

Well... first.... Not trying to sound like a smart ***. But, you cant hurt what you cant catch, touch or come close to tackling (ie. Vince Young).

Vince Young has blinding speed and moves and throw in the whole package he's about 6-5/230. Ouch !!!

Stephen McGee isnt near as fast or has the moves and aint near as big.

He took several "HUGE HITS" in the Texas game that I thought his career may end that day before my eyes. I know he's a gamer bigtime and he's tough as leather. But, you cant play that way every Saturday and take those type of hits and pounding and last all season.

Stepen McGee took more big hard hits in that 1 Texas game then Vincent Young took all season and I'm not kidding.

True, but don't you remember Vince taking those big shots his first few games as well? I can remember sitting there thinking dang that guy is going to get killed if he doesn't start making people miss. Next thing you know the kid is toting around a crystal football. Keep in mind that I'm not saying in any way shape, form, or fashion that I think McGee gets that chance. Franchionne is not that good of a coach and there just isn't enough talent at A&M right now. But I do think the kid is something you build on maybe he has at least a BCS year before he leaves campus.

[biki1121]

13-0

Looks pretty perfect to me.:D


Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are, that's funny. If you can't laugh at that you need to get right the hell on outta here!!

[Texasfrog]

True, but don't you remember Vince taking those big shots his first few games as well? I can remember sitting there thinking dang that guy is going to get killed if he doesn't start making people miss. Next thing you know the kid is toting around a crystal football. Keep in mind that I'm not saying in any way shape, form, or fashion that I think McGee gets that chance. Franchionne is not that good of a coach and there just isn't enough talent at A&M right now. But I do think the kid is something you build on maybe he has at least a BCS year before he leaves campus.


Ya.. I think Stephen McGee has alot of talent. I think Tx A&M is totally insane if they try to have him run the option alot.

I know I read an article after Tx A&M season where he talked with Coach Fran and basically told him he didnt want to run the option offense. McGee came to A&M because they basically promised him that the offense would be the "Spread offense" and he would be throwing the football.

I wont be surprised to see Tx A&M work on alot of passing formations this Spring and come out next season throwing.

If Tx A&M spreads the field... that scares me because McGee can make all the throws and if the defense bails out to "cover" he has enough talent to take off for a 20 yard gain.

But, running the option for 95% of the offense. I can promise you he wont last 5 games. He's to tough for his on good and he would leave with a concussion sooner or later.

[biki1121]

Ya.. I think Stephen McGee has alot of talent. I think Tx A&M is totally insane if they try to have him run the option alot.

I know I read an article after Tx A&M season where he talked with Coach Fran and basically told him he didnt want to run the option offense. McGee came to A&M because they basically promised him that the offense would be the "Spread offense" and he would be throwing the football.

I wont be surprised to see Tx A&M work on alot of passing formations this Spring and come out next season throwing.

If Tx A&M spreads the field... that scares me because McGee can make all the throws and if the defense bails out to "cover" he has enough talent to take off for a 20 yard gain.

But, running the option for 95% of the offense. I can promise you he wont last 5 games. He's to tough for his on good and he would leave with a concussion sooner or later.

Well this is what scares the heck out of me. This is basically the same offense that Reggie ran in '04. Spread and run when needed, I mean. Then look what the idiot did to Reggie in '05. McGee running ball isn't some fluke. He was an option QB all through school until Coach Shipley came to town. They installed the spread and the rest is history. He did add more option during McGee's senior year however. But McGee knows to play QB at the next level he HAS to throw the ball. So the question is does Franchionne waste another talent or does he plan and use his team wisely? I understand McGee running the option to end last year but you are right, install the offense he was comfortable with in HS and get after it. Koenning actually is a decent OC and DeBesse is a heck of a WR coach. I still think a NFL QB coach is needed however.

[BigArab]

I think all of us can agree that Reggie McNeal was one of the most misused QBs in college football history.

[rich_pack]

I have said it since the day he went to A&M, if he would have went to a school with a good offensive line, he would have been awsome. Put Vince Young behind the same offensive line Reggie was in, and the same thing would have happened. Thats a chance he took and paid the price for it. But I don't think, I KNOW!! he has a better arm, and can run fatser than Vince, he just has to prove himself to the pros now.

[Pack Daddy]

I have said it since the day he went to A&M, if he would have went to a school with a good offensive line, he would have been awsome. Put Vince Young behind the same offensive line Reggie was in, and the same thing would have happened. Thats a chance he took and paid the price for it. But I don't think, I KNOW!! he has a better arm, and can run fatser than Vince, he just has to prove himself to the pros now.

...and if Terrance Parks (Baylor) had chosen a different University too, no telling where he would be today.

[dragonfootballfan]

I have said it since the day he went to A&M, if he would have went to a school with a good offensive line, he would have been awsome. Put Vince Young behind the same offensive line Reggie was in, and the same thing would have happened. Thats a chance he took and paid the price for it. But I don't think, I KNOW!! he has a better arm, and can run fatser than Vince, he just has to prove himself to the pros now.
This is just not true. Jay Cutler from Vanderbilt is projected as a top ten pick. Who has better players Aggy or Vanderbilt?

[PACK '97]

This is just not true. Jay Cutler from Vanderbilt is projected as a top ten pick. Who has better players Aggy or Vanderbilt?


I understand where you're coming from, but what competition does Vandy have?

[dragonfootballfan]

I understand where you're coming from, but what competition does Vandy have?
They play in the SEC. That is a pretty good conference.

[PACK '97]

They play in the SEC. That is a pretty good conference.


Honestly, i've never seen Vandy play....i thought they were in a different conference....my bad

[DirtyHarry01]

So, let me get this straight. Every time REGGIE drilled the ball into the turf at his receiver's feet, threw an interception, or threw the ball ten feet over the receiver's head, it was caused by his offensive line? Don't think so, mate...

[BigArab]

So, let me get this straight. Every time REGGIE drilled the ball into the turf at his receiver's feet, threw an interception, or threw the ball ten feet over the receiver's head, it was caused by his offensive line? Don't think so, mate...

Truth be told, he didn't exactly throw interceptions too often.