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62tiger
08-07-2009, 09:49 PM
Scott Svensen is out as HC at Morton Ranch in Katy

Story at www.katytimes.com

baseballer08
08-07-2009, 10:13 PM
Scott Svensen is out as HC at Morton Ranch in Katy

Story at www.katytimes.com

:( Boom goes the dynamite.

Dynastybegan86
08-07-2009, 11:34 PM
Anyone know anything about Todd McVey?? Article says he was at Harker Heights and McKinney as head coach, and was on the staff in Texas City. Where is Harker Heights?

dada
08-07-2009, 11:37 PM
Anyone know anything about Todd McVey?? Article says he was at Harker Heights and McKinney as head coach, and was on the staff in Texas City. Where is Harker Heights?

Harker Heights is in the Killeen/Ft.Hood area.

Dynastybegan86
08-07-2009, 11:39 PM
Harker Heights is in the Killeen/Ft.Hood area.

Super CenTex! Thanks.

katyfan52
08-08-2009, 12:11 AM
Anyone know anything about Todd McVey?? Article says he was at Harker Heights and McKinney as head coach, and was on the staff in Texas City. Where is Harker Heights?
Hope he's good for the kids sake.

austin pride
08-08-2009, 12:19 AM
Dag what did this man do cause coaches don't go out like this without there being a scandal.

has09
08-08-2009, 12:30 AM
Wonder if it has to do with the transfers, they got Sam Carter and a birdie told me Chris Parr was enrolled there also.

THE 300
08-08-2009, 12:33 AM
Wonder if it has to do with the transfers, they got Sam Carter and a birdie told me Chris Parr was enrolled there also.

Indeed.:ninja:

twcpfan1
08-08-2009, 12:40 AM
Anyone know anything about Todd McVey?? Article says he was at Harker Heights and McKinney as head coach, and was on the staff in Texas City. Where is Harker Heights?

Killeen. We played them in girls bball once. One of their players flipped us (the College Park crowd) during the game from the bench. Funniest thing I ever saw.

baseballer08
08-08-2009, 01:27 AM
Wonder if it has to do with the transfers, they got Sam Carter and a birdie told me Chris Parr was enrolled there also.

Carter was a legit move-in... Parr on the other hand was really sketchy.

PCW Cats
08-08-2009, 05:56 AM
I am not positive, but I don't think McVey has ever taken a team to the playoffs yet he continues to get HC jobs. Talk about politics.

CyFallsMom
08-08-2009, 07:30 AM
There is a bit more than just illegal recruiting but I'll leave that for someone else to say.

rwilleby
08-08-2009, 07:54 AM
No way this ends well...

clemensbuff
08-08-2009, 08:09 AM
Anyone know anything about Todd McVey?? Article says he was at Harker Heights and McKinney as head coach, and was on the staff in Texas City. Where is Harker Heights?

Not sure where all he's coached but he was definately on the Texas City staff when they were really, really tough. He graduated from Samuel Clemens in the Mid 80s. I haven't spoken to him or seen him in many, many years but he was definately a good guy back then. I mean hell boys, he's from Schertz so how could he not be a good guy!!!!:notworthy:D

allendad
08-08-2009, 08:09 AM
Man, that's tough for the kids'to have this
kind of a change 3 weeks before school starts.

I would think this would foster a feeling
of not knowing where they are going.


:o:o:o:o

usc 619
08-08-2009, 08:13 AM
I just put a call out to someone close to the situation, I'll post later today.

btw; The MR Head coach was a good guy.

dada
08-08-2009, 09:19 AM
Details will be released some time today.

ThEgReAtOnE
08-08-2009, 10:12 AM
Anyone know anything about Todd McVey?? Article says he was at Harker Heights and McKinney as head coach, and was on the staff in Texas City. Where is Harker Heights?

He hasn't really done anything as far as a HC (went 17-24 at McKinney and 2-17 at Harker Heights), but he has been given several opportunities... due mainly to his relationship with KISD AD-Dowling.

62tiger
08-08-2009, 10:27 AM
I would think McVey was the only choice at this point.

Feel bad for the kids at MR. If the whole staff goes away(which I am guessing could happen), how does one guy coach the entire program???????

Also, I would not be so sure that There were not problems with the Carter transfer. Read the story again........this is not one little infraction.

baseballer08
08-08-2009, 10:33 AM
He hasn't really done anything as far as a HC (went 17-24 at McKinney and 2-17 at Harker Heights), but he has been given several opportunities... due mainly to his relationship with KISD AD-Dowling.

ughhh jim shewmake all over again. :(

Cody
08-08-2009, 10:47 AM
They actually removed 3 coaches, not just Svendsen. The players' parents were called to a meeting yesterday and were told that there was misappropriation of funds and inappropriate communication with students.

What was not said at the meeting was that hell hath no fury like a mad coach's wife.

Fleeman93
08-08-2009, 11:23 AM
They actually removed 3 coaches, not just Svendsen. The players' parents were called to a meeting yesterday and were told that there was misappropriation of funds and inappropriate communication with students.

What was not said at the meeting was that hell hath no fury like a mad coach's wife.

Can't wait to hear more about this development.

62tiger
08-08-2009, 11:30 AM
They actually removed 3 coaches, not just Svendsen. The players' parents were called to a meeting yesterday and were told that there was misappropriation of funds and inappropriate communication with students.

What was not said at the meeting was that hell hath no fury like a mad coach's wife.

Rumor has it that Svendsen did not know about it, but since he is the HC/AC he was responsible. Too bad, heard he was a straight up guy.

If what I heard was true............I would bet his wife was pretty POed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dang, I feel sorry for those kids and the rest of the MR staff.

Matthew 2000 Eagle
08-08-2009, 11:37 AM
Rumor has it that Svendsen did not know about it, but since he is the HC/AC he was responsible. Too bad, heard he was a straight up guy.

If what I heard was true............I would bet his wife was pretty POed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dang, I feel sorry for those kids and the rest of the MR staff.

Well, whatever it is or, was that happened that the Svendsen didn't know about, that's messed up. I can't wait to hear more about this as well.

Dynastybegan86
08-08-2009, 12:10 PM
"That's gonna leave a mark!"

Signed,

Tommy Boy


:(:(:(:(:(

mojosoundwave
08-08-2009, 12:22 PM
[QUOTE=Dynastybegan86;1258597]"That's gonna leave a mark!"

Signed,

Tommy Boy



Did you eat paint chips as a child. ;)

Dynastybegan86
08-08-2009, 12:43 PM
"That's gonna leave a mark!"

Signed,

Tommy Boy



Did you eat paint chips as a child. ;)

NO! You wanna go cow tippin'?:rolleyes:

Let's stay on topic! Also, watch your quote function. Be sure you type outside of the previous post, just sayin'.

The Dude
08-08-2009, 01:18 PM
anyone know when the press conference is scheduled for?

I still can't believe this is happening. What a shocker. Coach Svendsen is a top-tier coach and a class act man through and through. Morton Ranch needs Svendsen, he had those kids on the right track. I'd hate to see his family have to go through something like this. It was a pleasure playing for that man at Katy. But all things work together for those that love the Lord and I know Coach Svendsen is a man of his faith. I hope this doesn't put a blemish on his record for the apparent mistakes of another individual under him. I wish him all the luck in the world

mojosoundwave
08-08-2009, 01:19 PM
NO! You wanna go cow tippin'?:rolleyes:

Let's stay on topic! Also, watch your quote function. Be sure you type outside of the previous post, just sayin'.

I'm not big on wildlife I would rather be a married wallflower at a bottumless party. :cool:

dada
08-08-2009, 01:20 PM
anyone know when the press conference is scheduled for?

I still can't believe this is happening. What a shocker. Coach Svendsen is a top-tier coach and a class act man through and through. Morton Ranch needs Svendsen, he had those kids on the right track. I'd hate to see his family have to go through something like this. It was a pleasure playing for that man at Katy. But all things work together for those that love the Lord and I know Coach Svendsen is a man of his faith. I hope this doesn't put a blemish on his record for the apparent mistakes of another individual under him. I wish him all the luck in the world

No time as of yet...I'm still waiting for it also.

Ramz
08-08-2009, 01:37 PM
Updated info on Katy TImes front page...

http://www.katytimes.com/articles/2009/08/08/news/doc4a7ce49d41bb8058368358.txt

ftballin11
08-08-2009, 01:47 PM
Updated info on Katy TImes front page...

http://www.katytimes.com/articles/2009/08/08/news/doc4a7ce49d41bb8058368358.txt

Wow, this is unreal.

dada
08-08-2009, 02:27 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6565556.html

katyfan52
08-08-2009, 02:29 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6565556.html
hmmmm.....not very heavy on detail are they? Oh well, in time all will be revealed. :ninja:

dada
08-08-2009, 02:51 PM
hmmmm.....not very heavy on detail are they? Oh well, in time all will be revealed. :ninja:

I'm thinking this may just be the tip of the iceberg. Maybe "legal issues" are keeping the Katy Times and Chron.com from putting out TOO much info. Something is going on here, and it's not good.

62tiger
08-08-2009, 02:56 PM
hmmmm.....not very heavy on detail are they? Oh well, in time all will be revealed. :ninja:

Give it time..........You are not gonna believe what you hear.

By the way.......waiting for someone to blame Katy as the whistle blower..............



Everything was exposed inside. No other Katy ISD schools had anything to do with it.Period.

dada
08-08-2009, 02:59 PM
Give it time..........You are not gonna believe what you hear.

By the way.......waiting for someone to blame Katy as the whistle blower..............



Everything was exposed inside. No other Katy ISD schools had anything to do with it.Period.

Already done...check the comments on the Times and Chron.com
"katy ratted them because they were getting good"...just one of the gems there.

twcpfan1
08-08-2009, 03:00 PM
This thread is about Morton Ranch right?

dada
08-08-2009, 03:02 PM
This thread is about Morton Ranch right?

Anything about KISD turns into a Katy issue some how.

JagFan
08-08-2009, 03:07 PM
I hope they let the facts out soon. The rumors will hurt the kids and take their focus as they are starting their season.

Please be careful about what is rumor and what is fact. I do not know anything about this situation however I do know how things like this affects kids when they loose coaches they love and the rumors start.

Dynastybegan86
08-08-2009, 03:16 PM
two articles now posted up (Times, Chron) and the hate is already flying towards the Katy Tigers....UNbelievable.

Each article has "comments" at the bottom and I read both. Katy was "worried about MR", "Katy concerned about MR", and my favorite, "Katy fears MR".

Folks, this is absolutely horrible for these young athletes and the community of Katy. People throwing garbage out like that are totally missing the point. This will not end pretty for these coaches, that I am very sure of! More importantly, this will not end pretty for the kids! It's one thing to have an opportunity to overcome a challenge in life, it is totally different when you're forced to overcome a challenge you never saw coming. This will be life altering for some and affect thier future, all very sad! So maybe we can get past the finger pointing and conspiracy theories and focus on helping each other!

SWMHebron
08-08-2009, 03:17 PM
I hope they let the facts out soon. The rumors will hurt the kids and take their focus as they are starting their season.

Please be careful about what is rumor and what is fact. I do not know anything about this situation however I do know how things like this affects kids when they loose coaches they love and the rumors start.

I am sure the rumors, speculation and innuendo are thick down there. I am glad the articles I've read have kept a lid on details, especially if this involves recruiting or grade changing. It is bad enough as it is without innocent kids names being dragged into it.

dada
08-08-2009, 03:19 PM
I am sure the rumors, speculation and innuendo are thick down there. I am glad the articles I've read have kept a lid on details, especially if this involves recruiting or grade changing. It is bad enough as it is without innocent kids names being dragged into it.

I don't even think that's the worse of it....it's a reason everyone is tight lipped about it.

katyfan52
08-08-2009, 03:23 PM
I'm thinking this may just be the tip of the iceberg. Maybe "legal issues" are keeping the Katy Times and Chron.com from putting out TOO much info. Something is going on here, and it's not good.
No, it's not. :ninja:

twcpfan1
08-08-2009, 03:26 PM
two articles now posted up (Times, Chron) and the hate is already flying towards the Katy Tigers....UNbelievable.

Each article has "comments" at the bottom and I read both. Katy was "worried about MR", "Katy concerned about MR", and my favorite, "Katy fears MR".

Folks, this is absolutely horrible for these young athletes and the community of Katy. People throwing garbage out like that are totally missing the point. This will not end pretty for these coaches, that I am very sure of! More importantly, this will not end pretty for the kids! It's one thing to have an opportunity to overcome a challenge in life, it is totally different when you're forced to overcome a challenge you never saw coming. This will be life altering for some and affect thier future, all very sad! So maybe we can get past the finger pointing and conspiracy theories and focus on helping each other!

True but it must be pointed out that the only ones who have mentioned the Tigers in this particular thread have been the Katy fans.

Dynastybegan86
08-08-2009, 03:26 PM
This thread is about Morton Ranch right?

don't start stirring the pot D. Not in this thread. This is just the beginning. We need to focus on Katy....the community, not have finger pointing and pot stirring. I'm sure you didn't mean anything disrespectful, but Katy and MR folks are going to be touchy about this thread and the path forward.

SLC
08-08-2009, 03:30 PM
My heart goes out to the kids at a time like this. Were but a few short weeks from starting the season and these kids are supposed to be thinking about starting their school year and football season. As a kid we all have dreams of the upcomming season and can picture in our minds making a great game saving tackle or throwing a winning td or making a block that springs a return punt for a td....certainly these Maverick players have had those very dreams and pictured those very things and I feel so extremely horrible for them to have to replace those special feelings and thoughts with the "where do we go from here" thoughts. Regardless of the outcome of this situation, these kids are the ones who need everyones support, so tonight I'll be saying a prayer for them in hopes that they can get back to being kids and having those dreams of doing things that kids do.


Keep your heads held high Maverick players.

Dynastybegan86
08-08-2009, 03:30 PM
True but it must be pointed out that the only ones who have mentioned the Tigers in this particular thread have been the Katy fans.

DUDE? Seriously?! Might be best for you to head on out.

SWMHebron
08-08-2009, 03:32 PM
My heart goes out to the kids at a time like this. Were but a few short weeks from starting the season and these kids are supposed to be thinking about starting their school year and football season. As a kid we all have dreams of the upcomming season and can picture in our minds making a great game saving tackle or throwing a winning td or making a block that springs a return punt for a td....certainly these Maverick players have had those very dreams and pictured those very things and I feel so extremely horrible for them to have to replace those special feelings and thoughts with the "where do we go from here" thoughts. Regardless of the outcome of this situation, these kids are the ones who need everyones support, so tonight I'll be saying a prayer for them in hopes that they can get back to being kids and having those dreams of doing things that kids do.


Keep your heads held high Maverick players.

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

Dynastybegan86
08-08-2009, 03:32 PM
My heart goes out to the kids at a time like this. Were but a few short weeks from starting the season and these kids are supposed to be thinking about starting their school year and football season. As a kid we all have dreams of the upcomming season and can picture in our minds making a great game saving tackle or throwing a winning td or making a block that springs a return punt for a td....certainly these Maverick players have had those very dreams and pictured those very things and I feel so extremely horrible for them to have to replace those special feelings and thoughts with the "where do we go from here" thoughts. Regardless of the outcome of this situation, these kids are the ones who need everyones support, so tonight I'll be saying a prayer for them in hopes that they can get back to being kids and having those dreams of doing things that kids do.


Keep your heads held high Maverick players.

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

Absolutely!

Kat-na-hat
08-08-2009, 03:42 PM
no mention of the UIL? What is their part in this situation? Suspending the coaches until things are sorted out?

Dynastybegan86
08-08-2009, 03:47 PM
no mention of the UIL? What is their part in this situation? Suspending the coaches until things are sorted out?

Well I would venture to say that they'll be involved eventually, didn't I say this wasn't going to end good. MR needs to know Katy....the community...is behind them 110%.

SWMHebron
08-08-2009, 03:51 PM
no mention of the UIL? What is their part in this situation? Suspending the coaches until things are sorted out?

This sounds like an internal investigation. UIL will probably get involved depending upon the findings.

Kat-na-hat
08-08-2009, 03:54 PM
This sounds like an internal investigation. UIL will probably get involved depending upon the findings.


True,

katytaes
08-08-2009, 04:33 PM
I just put a call out to someone close to the situation, I'll post later today.

btw; The MR Head coach was a good guy.

Ditto on him being a good guy. I cannot believe he would have violated rules and suspect it was done by one of his staff IF in fact a violation occurred. I am keeping an open mind until the facts are known.

baseballer08
08-08-2009, 06:14 PM
If I were to express my true feelings about this issue on the board I would get banned so I will stay away from it.
I just feel so badly for these seniors. Imagine if your senior season of football was just ruined because of someone else's mistakes. This just sucks.

THE 300
08-08-2009, 06:33 PM
If I were to express my true feelings about this issue on the board I would get banned so I will stay away from it.
I just feel so badly for these seniors. Imagine if your senior season of football was just ruined because of someone else's mistakes. This just sucks.

Man, I feel bad for the MR seniors. First, they have the 1-19 in two varsity seasons. Then last year, the varsity cheerleaders got banned. And now this. Too bad life doesn't give do-overs.

Hold your head high, boys. You gotta keep working and believing in one another. We're behind you all the way this season (except for one game;).

GO MAVS!!!

ktCarl
08-08-2009, 07:13 PM
True but it must be pointed out that the only ones who have mentioned the Tigers in this particular thread have been the Katy fans.

Don't go there. The comments by people on the paper's comments thread were about Katy HS and made by non Katy HS people. See how easy rumors start?

ktCarl
08-08-2009, 07:16 PM
If I were to express my true feelings about this issue on the board I would get banned so I will stay away from it.
I just feel so badly for these seniors. Imagine if your senior season of football was just ruined because of someone else's mistakes. This just sucks.

That's exactly what happened to Katy in '98. The only positive that can be found in this is that this happened before school and the football season got underway. The football team should still have a season to play. At least it didn't happen like what transpired at Galveston Ball High 3 seasons ago.

HUM398
08-08-2009, 08:03 PM
My sources tell me....More surprises are coming.

Get ready folks, this is going to get really ugly

Fleeman93
08-08-2009, 08:15 PM
The thing that intrigues me about this is that some reports say Coach S had nothing directly to do with all of this and his wife is real pissed. Wife being real pissed seems to indicate that either he had nothing to do with this or he lied to his wife. For some reason I seem to think the wasn't lying to his wife.

ktfiend
08-08-2009, 08:32 PM
I know that I have been "offline" for a while but I am absolutely shocked by some of the comments on the chronicle website regarding this story!

I knew that Katy had haters, but come on, this is getting ridiculous.

I feel really bad for the kids having to start their season under a controversy. Hopefully they can overcome and pull out some great wins this year.

CoveMom
08-08-2009, 08:38 PM
They actually removed 3 coaches, not just Svendsen. The players' parents were called to a meeting yesterday and were told that there was misappropriation of funds and inappropriate communication with students.

What was not said at the meeting was that hell hath no fury like a mad coach's wife.

Just how many mad coaches do you have down there???


j/k.

baseballer08
08-08-2009, 08:50 PM
I know that I have been "offline" for a while but I am absolutely shocked by some of the comments on the chronicle website regarding this story!

I knew that Katy had haters, but come on, this is getting ridiculous.

I feel really bad for the kids having to start their season under a controversy. Hopefully they can overcome and pull out some great wins this year.

It isn't so much the players as it is your fans... but all of ya'll on here are pretty baller ;) but anyways.

CoveMom
08-08-2009, 09:01 PM
Okay. Now I have read both articles and a lot of the comments.

Two questions:


1. Wasn't the guy talking about Taylor High School referring to a HS called Katy-Taylor (and that would mean City of Katy, right?) ? (this one goes to the sensitivity level of Katy HS fans)

2. What Cheerleader scandal at Morton Ranch that led to "banning" the Varsity Cheerleaders (and from what)?



Seriously, I agree the Katy HS tie-ins are ridiculous, however, some of the responses by KHS folk show that to turn the other cheek (ignore it folks!) might be the more intelligent response. You cannot reason with a wall that thinks it is a gate, folks.


.

ktfiend
08-08-2009, 09:12 PM
I missed the Taylor comment but anyway, Taylor is not in the city. KHS is the only HS in the city limits.

The MR varsity cheerleaders managed to get themselves in some hot water at the beginning of last year (I think) by participating in some controversial hazing of other cheerleaders. The program was suspended for a time but I don't remember the end result.

I've been reading the online version of the Moronicle for a while now and always get a giggle (or an eye-roll) out of the comments. I may not say the most intelligent things form time to time but there are posters over there that make me look like a rocket scientist!

Miss Kitty
08-08-2009, 09:18 PM
I missed the Taylor comment but anyway, Taylor is not in the city. KHS is the only HS in the city limits.

The MR varsity cheerleaders managed to get themselves in some hot water at the beginning of last year (I think) by participating in some controversial hazing of other cheerleaders. The program was suspended for a time but I don't remember the end result.

I've been reading the online version of the Moronicle for a while now and always get a giggle (or an eye-roll) out of the comments. I may not say the most intelligent things form time to time but there are posters over there that make me look like a rocket scientist!

You are a rocket scientist!!! :)

CoveMom
08-08-2009, 09:19 PM
I missed the Taylor comment but anyway, Taylor is not in the city. KHS is the only HS in the city limits.

The MR varsity cheerleaders managed to get themselves in some hot water at the beginning of last year (I think) by participating in some controversial hazing of other cheerleaders. The program was suspended for a time but I don't remember the end result.

I've been reading the online version of the Moronicle for a while now and always get a giggle (or an eye-roll) out of the comments. I may not say the most intelligent things form time to time but there are posters over there that make me look like a rocket scientist!


Got it. But, am I correct that it is referred to as Katy Taylor (because of the ISD)? Isn't that why Morton Ranch is referred to the same way?

The comment was treated like Taylor alumni were not part of the Katy-area schools. Specifically they were discussing the young woman who was on Xena-Warrior Princess all those years ago and saying she was the only good thing to come out of Katy. Katy folk said no, not from Katy (remember the ISD) and so I suggested they take a broader view and stay quiet because that means (i'm joking here) that they are saying NOTHING good ever came out of Katy...


Thanks for the cheerleader info.


How you been??? Which game should I try to come to this year? And who gets a cowbell??? Stay tuned for the answers in the months ahead...


:)

CoveMom
08-08-2009, 09:21 PM
Oh, yeah...they do make lots of folks look like rocket scientists!


:cool:

ktfiend
08-08-2009, 09:34 PM
Got it. But, am I correct that it is referred to as Katy Taylor (because of the ISD)? Isn't that why Morton Ranch is referred to the same way?

The comment was treated like Taylor alumni were not part of the Katy-area schools. Specifically they were discussing the young woman who was on Xena-Warrior Princess all those years ago and saying she was the only good thing to come out of Katy. Katy folk said no, not from Katy (remember the ISD) and so I suggested they take a broader view and stay quiet because that means (i'm joking here) that they are saying NOTHING good ever came out of Katy...


Thanks for the cheerleader info.


How you been??? Which game should I try to come to this year? And who gets a cowbell??? Stay tuned for the answers in the months ahead...


:)

I've been laying low for a year or so but I'm ready to get back into the swing of things. I'm feeling better and have a few things under better control than they were before.

Now I remember the Taylor comment. I didn't know who they were referring to though... again, been under a rock for a while... :)

sooner fan
08-08-2009, 09:36 PM
Sorry to hear this. Their season is probably shot now-though I really thought they would finish no better than 4th in 175A-I guess that is still possible but highly unlikely.

I am by no means a Katy Tiger fan, but this stuff about Katy turning them in and "fearing MR"-come on people. When I read comments like that, I realize how some elections turn out the way they do.

Katy probably fears no one-they probably respect Cinco a little more after last year.

ktfiend
08-08-2009, 09:37 PM
Got it. But, am I correct that it is referred to as Katy Taylor (because of the ISD)? Isn't that why Morton Ranch is referred to the same way?

:)


Actually, some of us more arrogant Katy fans refer to them as JE Taylor instead of Katy Taylor. ;)

My husband and I had a really bad experience with Taylor fans a couple years back so I have some personal built up anger toward them. I don't do ANYTHING blue anymore...

THE 300
08-08-2009, 09:41 PM
My sources tell me....More surprises are coming.

Get ready folks, this is going to get really ugly

Should we call out that guy who wanted to do the reality show around KISD football last year? What was it, "Katy Nation"?

Sounds like this would sell a lot better.:ninja:

dada
08-08-2009, 09:42 PM
Actually, some of us more arrogant Katy fans refer to them as JE Taylor instead of Katy Taylor. ;)

My husband and I had a really bad experience with Taylor fans a couple years back so I have some personal built up anger toward them. I don't do ANYTHING blue anymore...

Got my tickets?...THAT would be a story if you didnt..lol

And yes, this will get worse....stay tuned.

THE 300
08-08-2009, 09:44 PM
Sorry to hear this. Their season is probably shot now-though I really thought they would finish no better than 4th in 175A-I guess that is still possible but highly unlikely.

I am by no means a Katy Tiger fan, but this stuff about Katy turning them in and "fearing MR"-come on people. When I read comments like that, I realize how some elections turn out the way they do.

Katy probably fears no one-they probably respect Cinco a little more after last year.

Could you guys PLEASE stop whining about whatever the idiots are writing in the Chronicle comments? Obviously, no one here wants to fight about it.

Move along folks, nothing to see here...:rolleyes:

Dynastybegan86
08-08-2009, 09:54 PM
I've been laying low for a year or so but I'm ready to get back into the swing of things. I'm feeling better and have a few things under better control than they were before.

Now I remember the Taylor comment. I didn't know who they were referring to though... again, been under a rock for a while... :)

They were referring to Renee O'Connor, Class of '89 JET!

rwilleby
08-08-2009, 09:56 PM
Actually, some of us more arrogant Katy fans refer to them as JE Taylor instead of Katy Taylor. ;)

My husband and I had a really bad experience with Taylor fans a couple years back so I have some personal built up anger toward them. I don't do ANYTHING blue anymore...

Hold a grudge why don't you... Dang you were 12 when that happened... And FYI, JETaylor folks hate it when they are called Katy Taylor... Which is why I call them that!

ktfiend
08-08-2009, 10:11 PM
Hold a grudge why don't you... Dang you were 12 when that happened... And FYI, JETaylor folks hate it when they are called Katy Taylor... Which is why I call them that!

I had no idea. I like that reason much better... :)

baseballer08
08-08-2009, 10:11 PM
ughhh. this is going to get real ugly...

ktfiend
08-08-2009, 10:13 PM
Could you guys PLEASE stop whining about whatever the idiots are writing in the Chronicle comments? Obviously, no one here wants to fight about it.

Move along folks, nothing to see here...:rolleyes:

I don't think anyone here is "looking for a fight" about the comments on the Moronicle site. Luckily it's still a "fairly" free nation and we can discuss things like that from time to time.

Dynastybegan86
08-08-2009, 10:23 PM
ughhh. this is going to get real ugly...

Baller, I hope you know that, well I can't speak for all the Katy faithful, but I believe most are supporting the kids and the school! I know I am! While there may be those times when we as fans banter back and forth it is always about playing football. This however, does not fall into that category. Stand tall, after all you are a Maverick!!:cool: Thoughts are with you!

ktfiend
08-08-2009, 10:26 PM
I hope for the sake of the MR kids that the accusations are either very minor infractions or unfounded.

oldtig
08-08-2009, 10:38 PM
I hope for the sake of the MR kids that the accusations are either very minor infractions or unfounded.

Accusations of this level and with this much attention from KISD are never unfounded. I've seen a lot worse "scandals" get swept under the rug much more swiftly and quietly than this. As much as it hurts to say- this is not going to end well for anyone with ties to the Ranch.

To my Mav buddies- I love you all and I'm praying for you.

Cody
08-08-2009, 10:45 PM
The thing that intrigues me about this is that some reports say Coach S had nothing directly to do with all of this and his wife is real pissed. Wife being real pissed seems to indicate that either he had nothing to do with this or he lied to his wife. For some reason I seem to think the wasn't lying to his wife.

Wrong coach's wife. Fury is the cause, not the effect.

Fleeman93
08-08-2009, 11:46 PM
Wrong coach's wife. Fury is the cause, not the effect.

I'm with ya.

Matthew 2000 Eagle
08-09-2009, 12:08 AM
I don't know what it is that happened but, from the sounds of it, it's beyond sad. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy!

Now, because a couple of people made dumb decisions, there are KIDS sitting around scared and hurt. This is sickening!

CyFallsMom
08-09-2009, 07:35 AM
Hopefully, it will all work out for these kids - they are the ones being punished for the stupidity and serious lack of judgment of a couple of adults. Those kids were trying so hard and they still can try hard - they can go out and show what they are made of...which is more than I can say for those who have caused this problem. To the MR coaches who haven't done anything, now is the time to embrace those guys and help them to overcome this....together, anything can happen.

And on another topic, I was reading the comments in the Chronicle and I'm not completely sure why Katy is under fire for this by readers of the Chronicle. It's like they didn't read the article or something. This is Morton Ranch which is IN Katy, not Katy or any other KISD school. I know this has been hashed and rehashed in this thread but the lack of reading comprehension over there just baffles me.

ktCarl
08-09-2009, 08:24 AM
Hopefully, it will all work out for these kids - they are the ones being punished for the stupidity and serious lack of judgment of a couple of adults. Those kids were trying so hard and they still can try hard - they can go out and show what they are made of...which is more than I can say for those who have caused this problem. To the MR coaches who haven't done anything, now is the time to embrace those guys and help them to overcome this....together, anything can happen.

And on another topic, I was reading the comments in the Chronicle and I'm not completely sure why Katy is under fire for this by readers of the Chronicle. It's like they didn't read the article or something. This is Morton Ranch which is IN Katy, not Katy or any other KISD school. I know this has been hashed and rehashed in this thread but the lack of reading comprehension over there just baffles me.

I guess your Hubby is keeping you informed as things unfold. Isn't he still teaching at Morton Ranch? I'm sure he'll talk to the football players when he's able to help them through this.

Matthew 2000 Eagle
08-09-2009, 08:25 AM
Hopefully, it will all work out for these kids - they are the ones being punished for the stupidity and serious lack of judgment of a couple of adults. Those kids were trying so hard and they still can try hard - they can go out and show what they are made of...which is more than I can say for those who have caused this problem. To the MR coaches who haven't done anything, now is the time to embrace those guys and help them to overcome this....together, anything can happen.

And on another topic, I was reading the comments in the Chronicle and I'm not completely sure why Katy is under fire for this by readers of the Chronicle. It's like they didn't read the article or something. This is Morton Ranch which is IN Katy, not Katy or any other KISD school. I know this has been hashed and rehashed in this thread but the lack of reading comprehension over there just baffles me.

Great post!

As for the idiots in the Chronicle, most of them are probably still mad about their teams losing to Katy. Success also brings hate and jealousy!

CyFallsMom
08-09-2009, 08:36 AM
I guess your Hubby is keeping you informed as things unfold. Isn't he still teaching at Morton Ranch? I'm sure he'll talk to the football players when he's able to help them through this.

No, he is going to another school - he left when the principal left, along with some other teachers. It's like when a head coach leaves and the rest of the staff does as well usually. He only has a couple more years to retirement and he wanted to go elsewhere to finish out. Last year, MR had the cheerleader incident and the teacher/student incident and now this - enough is enough! Someone just needs to get some control. The kids don't deserve the media attention and heckling they will inevitably be getting.

And, yes, he has kept me informed since the teacher grapevine is alive and well.

THE 300
08-09-2009, 09:49 AM
Well, the talking heads are on to this now, so get ready.

I am a big fan of Channel 2 news. OK, I am a big fan of Dominique Sexy. But I was at a friend's house last night at 10 when the news came on and he had it tuned to Channel 11. Want to guess what the lead story was? :eek:

And yes, they mentioned the cheerleader scandal of last season.

tigerfan2010
08-09-2009, 11:55 AM
Some crazy rumors out there!!

DTKF
08-09-2009, 02:03 PM
I feel for the kids. But nothing gets people together than us against the world and circle the wagons.

If it is true then they (coaches) got what they derserved. If it aint then they are getting railroaded bad.

ktCarl
08-09-2009, 02:04 PM
Well, the talking heads are on to this now, so get ready.

I am a big fan of Channel 2 news. OK, I am a big fan of Dominique Sexy. But I was at a friend's house last night at 10 when the news came on and he had it tuned to Channel 11. Want to guess what the lead story was? :eek:

And yes, they mentioned the cheerleader scandal of last season.


Yes, Dominique is pretty!! ;)

A channel 13 reporter was at the Shell station on Mason and Franz asking people their thoughts on Svendson and what had transpired. Most of the people asked (my daughter being one) didn't have a clue what was going on.

Forward Pass
08-09-2009, 03:47 PM
Unfortunate situation that is transpiring at Morton Ranch. We should all wait to hear what really happened and not speculate. There are alot of people's lives that are effected and will be effected by these events.

HUM398
08-09-2009, 04:05 PM
Unfortunate situation that is transpiring at Morton Ranch. We should all wait to hear what really happened and not speculate. There are alot of people's lives that are effected and will be effected by these events.

it is most certainly going to leave ramifications for the entire program, and possibly district to state.

I just hope that MR can overcome what will be a HUGE distraction for everyone.

BuckeyeDave
08-09-2009, 05:12 PM
Been out of the loop myself visiting the old home up north for a few days and I don't like what I'm reading. From all my dealings with Scott Svendsen, I certainly hope he's been above board the whole time. I have a real tough time believing he's devious enough to take part in the activities that are rumored to be taking place.
I read the Chronicle comments myself and all I can figure is anything having to do with Katy ISD football sooner or later comes back to Katy High, even things that have nothing at all to do with the Tigers. Some people need to get over themselves.
Then again, I would say that same thing to anyone who lets the mention of "Katy Taylor" wrankle them. :)

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 06:21 PM
[QUOTE=Dynastybegan86;1258597]"That's gonna leave a mark!"

Signed,

Tommy Boy



Did you eat paint chips as a child. ;)

yes.:ninja:

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 06:24 PM
Give it time..........You are not gonna believe what you hear.

By the way.......waiting for someone to blame Katy as the whistle blower..............



Everything was exposed inside. No other Katy ISD schools had anything to do with it.Period.

Wow! The arrogance of it all.

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 06:27 PM
Already done...check the comments on the Times and Chron.com
"katy ratted them because they were getting good"...just one of the gems there.

Really?:eek:

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 06:29 PM
Anything about KISD turns into a Katy issue some how.

Seems a Katy fan has turned this into a katy thang.:ninja:

Seems to always work that way.

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 06:33 PM
True but it must be pointed out that the only ones who have mentioned the Tigers in this particular thread have been the Katy fans.

This. Beginning to get the drift?:ninja:

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 06:35 PM
don't start stirring the pot D. Not in this thread. This is just the beginning. We need to focus on Katy....the community, not have finger pointing and pot stirring. I'm sure you didn't mean anything disrespectful, but Katy and MR folks are going to be touchy about this thread and the path forward.

Why would the Tiger fans be touchy:confused:

It was MR!!!

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 06:39 PM
My heart goes out to the kids at a time like this. Were but a few short weeks from starting the season and these kids are supposed to be thinking about starting their school year and football season. As a kid we all have dreams of the upcomming season and can picture in our minds making a great game saving tackle or throwing a winning td or making a block that springs a return punt for a td....certainly these Maverick players have had those very dreams and pictured those very things and I feel so extremely horrible for them to have to replace those special feelings and thoughts with the "where do we go from here" thoughts. Regardless of the outcome of this situation, these kids are the ones who need everyones support, so tonight I'll be saying a prayer for them in hopes that they can get back to being kids and having those dreams of doing things that kids do.


Keep your heads held high Maverick players.

They need that.:notworthy

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 06:46 PM
Could you guys PLEASE stop whining about whatever the idiots are writing in the Chronicle comments? Obviously, no one here wants to fight about it.

Move along folks, nothing to see here...:rolleyes:

Is it the idiot comments the Tiger fans are worried about?!!!! Come on guys get past that stuff.

ktCarl
08-09-2009, 06:47 PM
Why would the Tiger fans be touchy:confused:

It was MR!!!

Go read the comments in the Chronicle. That's where the anti-Katy sneers began. They were just relayed over here.

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 07:04 PM
Accusations of this level and with this much attention from KISD are never unfounded. I've seen a lot worse "scandals" get swept under the rug much more swiftly and quietly than this. As much as it hurts to say- this is not going to end well for anyone with ties to the Ranch.

To my Mav buddies- I love you all and I'm praying for you.

Such as?

ktCarl
08-09-2009, 07:34 PM
Such as?

Letting Cy-Falls win in 2006. :D

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 07:47 PM
I feel for the kids. But nothing gets people together than us against the world and circle the wagons.

If it is true then they (coaches) got what they derserved. If it aint then they are getting railroaded bad.

This.

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 07:49 PM
Unfortunate situation that is transpiring at Morton Ranch. We should all wait to hear what really happened and not speculate. There are alot of people's lives that are effected and will be effected by these events.

This, too.

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 07:56 PM
Go read the comments in the Chronicle. That's where the anti-Katy sneers began. They were just relayed over here.

If you are speaking of some anti-Tiger comments after the article, it was not made apparent on here. On here we just see the "everything is about Katy" attitude.:ninja:

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 07:57 PM
Letting Cy-Falls win in 2006. :D

oh, dude! That's rough.:D

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 07:58 PM
OK, I'm caught up on this thread.:D

twcpfan1
08-09-2009, 08:05 PM
If you are speaking of some anti-Tiger comments after the article, it was not made apparent on here. On here we just see the "everything is about Katy" attitude.:ninja:

Certainly not in that first post about khs which said nothing about the articles. To the poster's credit, he was proven correct and the KHS fans were right to bring it up then to stick up for their school.

62tiger
08-09-2009, 08:26 PM
Certainly not in that first post about khs which said nothing about the articles. To the poster's credit, he was proven correct and the KHS fans were right to bring it up then to stick up for their school.

I wrote that post.......Lived here long enough to know it is coming. And I am certainly not a Prophet!

And I might have read the comments in the Times and Chron before I posted it;):D

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 08:33 PM
I wrote that post.......Lived here long enough to know it is coming. And I am certainly not a Prophet!

And I might have read the comments in the Times and Chron before I posted it;):D

Then just reference them for those of us who do not search for everything Katy.:D It keeps the other 99.8% of the high school football fans in the state from thinking many Katy fans are arrogant.;)

62tiger
08-09-2009, 08:40 PM
Then just reference them for those of us who do not search for everything Katy.:D It keeps the other 99.8% of the high school football fans in the state from thinking many Katy fans are arrogant.;)

Would it really matter...............Most would still hate us and think we are arrogant anyway.........















Sorry, just had to give you and CP more ammo!



When people stop hating and talking about Katy Football..........Probably means Coach J left and the team went 2-8!:eek::eek:

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 08:47 PM
Would it really matter...............Most would still hate us and think we are arrogant anyway.........

Sorry, just had to give you and CP more ammo!



When people stop hating and talking about Katy Football..........Probably means Coach J left and the team went 2-8!:eek::eek:

Ummm, no. I don't think the arrogance attitude is judged by a win/loss record.:D

Otis Campbell
08-09-2009, 09:06 PM
So, this whole deal is about recruiting?

oldtig
08-09-2009, 09:37 PM
Such as?

The teachers who have been reassigned or dismissed due to various inappropriate actions/relationships. Been quite a few I can think of in the past few years that never reached the media. KISD is good at keeping things quiet and dealing with things in house... but not always- it seems with Morton Ranch that it doesn't matter as much about the KISD "image."

cyfallsbooster2
08-09-2009, 10:10 PM
So, this whole deal is about recruiting?

Not what I saw on the news. Its about mis -use of school money. Well, maybe recruiting.:D

HUM398
08-09-2009, 10:11 PM
The teachers who have been reassigned or dismissed due to various inappropriate actions/relationships. Been quite a few I can think of in the past few years that never reached the media. KISD is good at keeping things quiet and dealing with things in house... but not always- it seems with Morton Ranch that it doesn't matter as much about the KISD "image."

This is not going to be one of those quit things.

SWMHebron
08-09-2009, 10:15 PM
This is not going to be one of those quit things.

Any idea when more real info may be forthcoming?

Otis Campbell
08-09-2009, 10:19 PM
Not what I saw on the news. Its about mis -use of school money. Well, maybe recruiting.:D
Well, which one?
Mis-use of money? Bye!
Recruiting? As much as I hate it, I think it's necessary to an extent in any mutlischool district.

62tiger
08-09-2009, 11:13 PM
So, this whole deal is about recruiting?

Recruiting is just the Iceberg.............

Dynastybegan86
08-09-2009, 11:55 PM
Why would the Tiger fans be touchy:confused:

It was MR!!!

My good fan, you might want to re-read the post you quoted the above reponse to!

Katy....the community!

When it comes right down to it, you basically have to understand that this is not about football, this is about people's lives....kids lives that are being affected. We certainly will banter about football, but not the lives of young people!! I believe you are one to quickly jump onto to folks when they attack kids, right? Well the same goes here.

Katy ISD fans are in support of the kids and will be touchy about off-handed remarks that are only being said to smear Katy...the community. True, a lot of them are bashing the Tigers, but just like MR, the Tigers are apart of this community, so it is obvious why Katy Tiger fans would be touchy.

ktCarl
08-10-2009, 08:08 AM
A big problem is sticking the name 'Katy' in front of every school in KISD.
The schools properly named in KISD should always be...

Katy H.S.
JETaylor H.S.
Mayde Creek H.S.
Cinco Ranch H.S.
Morton Ranch H.S.
Seven Lakes H.S.

Everyone that prints an article has to stick the name 'Katy' in front of every school out here and so you get the moronic statements like which got a thread locked.

Miss Kitty
08-10-2009, 08:23 AM
A big problem is sticking the name 'Katy' in front of every school in KISD.
The schools properly named in KISD should always be...

Katy H.S.
JETaylor H.S.
Mayde Creek H.S.
Cinco Ranch H.S.
Morton Ranch H.S.
Seven Lakes H.S.

Everyone that prints an article has to stick the name 'Katy' in front of every school out here and so you get the moronic statements like which got a thread locked.

I agree with you 100%. I hated when they started puting Katy in front of everything. It allows the media to just make so many mistakes and hide behind them. Remember when they were using pics of KHS in articles about a different KISD school? That is just nuts.

rwilleby
08-10-2009, 08:25 AM
A big problem is sticking the name 'Katy' in front of every school in KISD.
The schools properly named in KISD should always be...

Katy H.S.in Katy ISD
JETaylor H.S.in Katy ISD[/COLOR]
Mayde Creek H.S.in Katy ISD[/COLOR]
Cinco Ranch H.S.in Katy ISD[/COLOR]
Morton Ranch H.S.in Katy ISD[/COLOR]
Seven Lakes H.S.in Katy ISD[/COLOR]

Everyone that prints an article has to stick the name 'Katy' in front of every school out here and so you get the moronic statements like which got a thread locked.

or... ^^

BIG RED
08-10-2009, 08:25 AM
Spent the weekend with some of the varsity Mavs in Galveston. I brought the matter up Saturday when I read the story in the Katy Times. These kids were shocked to hear it. Did not believe it. Ruined their weekend. :(

I look for MR to show up and represent Katy ISD with pride and dignity. Einstein once said that "in the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity". It is time for the upper classmen to rally the team and focus on week 0. Go Mavs!

Yes, I am a Mavs fan also. Mavs are my neighbors, friends, and family. Posters should always remember that players are readinig these comments too.

RedRage00
08-10-2009, 08:28 AM
I love reading comments in newspapers...they are always hilarious! :D

Miss Kitty
08-10-2009, 08:34 AM
Spent the weekend with some of the varsity Mavs in Galveston. I brought the matter up Saturday when I read the story in the Katy Times. These kids were shocked to hear it. Did not believe it. Ruined their weekend. :(

I look for MR to show up and represent Katy ISD with pride and dignity. Einstein once said that "in the middle of difficulty, lies opportunity". It is time for the upper classmen to rally the team and focus on week 0. Go Mavs!

Yes, I am a Mavs fan also. Mavs are my neighbors, friends, and family. Posters should always remember that players are readinig these comments too.

I haven't read this whole thread, but I can't imagine anyone is attacking the players. In fact, I believe most people are supporting them. The players didn't have anything to do with this, but now have the chance to be men and work through it. To realize that as individuals they each play an important role to help the team rise above this and represent. And as a team, they need to stand strong. I believe they can and will do that. Go Mavs!!

CyFallsMom
08-10-2009, 08:37 AM
A big problem is sticking the name 'Katy' in front of every school in KISD.
The schools properly named in KISD should always be...

Katy H.S.
JETaylor H.S.
Mayde Creek H.S.
Cinco Ranch H.S.
Morton Ranch H.S.
Seven Lakes H.S.

Everyone that prints an article has to stick the name 'Katy' in front of every school out here and so you get the moronic statements like which got a thread locked.

They do that in most districts. The thing about CFISD is that all but two schools start with "Cy" - or "Cypress" for the long version -so if one gets in trouble, it looks bad for all because many people lack simple reading comprehension. Like I said - I saw the comments on Chron.com and I was like "What the HECK" - it was an attack on Katy for the most part and hardly any mention of MR. Sounded like some sour grapes - which I've been known to have at times so I understand having them at certain times - but in this case, they were totally unwarranted and undeserved.

CyFallsMom
08-10-2009, 08:39 AM
I haven't read this whole thread, but I can't imagine anyone is attacking the players. In fact, I believe most people are supporting them. The players didn't have anything to do with this, but now have the chance to be men and work through it. To realize that as individuals they each play an important role to help the team rise above this and represent. And as a team, they need to stand strong. I believe they can and will do that. Go Mavs!!

Ditto

Miss Kitty
08-10-2009, 08:39 AM
I love reading comments in newspapers...they are always hilarious! :D

I don't like to read them because it always upsets me now RUDE people are. It hurts my heart to see how much the simplicity of good manners and human kindness is getting lost. How cowardly people will hide behind a handle and a keyboard, and be so ugly and mean. But when their comments stop bothering me, then I know I am in trouble myself.

chhspantherfan
08-10-2009, 08:41 AM
I don't like to read them because it always upsets me now RUDE people are. It hurts my heart to see how much the simplicity of good manners and human kindness is getting lost. How cowardly people will hide behind a handle and a keyboard, and be so ugly and mean. But when their comments stop bothering me, then I know I am in trouble myself.

Ahh, the voice of kindness. Thanks, we all need this on a Monday morning.

Great sig, it is in action at our home all the time :D

THE 300
08-10-2009, 08:46 AM
I haven't read this whole thread, but I can't imagine anyone is attacking the players. In fact, I believe most people are supporting them. The players didn't have anything to do with this, but now have the chance to be men and work through it. To realize that as individuals they each play an important role to help the team rise above this and represent. And as a team, they need to stand strong. I believe they can and will do that. Go Mavs!!

I would agree that the vast majority of the players would have had nothing to do with this. However, when it comes to eligibility questions, illegal recruiting or misappropriation of funds as relates to a football program, it takes two to tango.

If any or all of the allegations being made towards these coaches (resulting in the precipitous current suspensions) are in fact true, then the coaches could not have done it without the knowledge and complicity, if not aid, of a player or players.

My hope is that it is not wide-spread, but in reality we have to know that coaches can't do these things for players without their being involved.

RedRage00
08-10-2009, 08:48 AM
I don't like to read them because it always upsets me now RUDE people are. It hurts my heart to see how much the simplicity of good manners and human kindness is getting lost. How cowardly people will hide behind a handle and a keyboard, and be so ugly and mean. But when their comments stop bothering me, then I know I am in trouble myself.

True, but you have to realize that some people are probably just trollin' to get a rise out of someone. The same thing happens on 5A. :ninja:

dada
08-10-2009, 08:51 AM
Ahh, the voice of kindness. Thanks, we all need this on a Monday morning.

Great sig, it is in action at our home all the time :D

Give her a rope and a red truck and she thinks she's a cowgirl and a katy fan....oh wait...nevermind.:D

But back to the issue at hand, THANK YOU guys for keeping it civil. As soon as the news broke, all 3 of the KTBros had to leave the state due to family issues. They basicly gave me the keys and said "Good Luck" after a quick briefing. So far I've only had to lock on thread, delete one post and ban Rocketgrl for my own reasons, then I slept on it and un banned her.:D

But thanks again. And like someone else posted, this is just the tip of the iceberg and I don't wish this on anyone...especially the kids with the start of the season a few weeks away.

E-Vol-ution
08-10-2009, 08:52 AM
I think a lot of it is undue sensitivity. All of our schools have "Arlington" in front of the name. So what if we're not a one school town? One does in fact have a bearing on the other because the ISD should address the unique problems any particular school may have in it. Underperforming or corruption in any school does reflect on the overall ISD and the members in that system. I wouldn't lose sleep over somebody being uninformed and labeling .......that's their problem.
They do that in most districts. The thing about CFISD is that all but two schools start with "Cy" - or "Cypress" for the long version -so if one gets in trouble, it looks bad for all because many people lack simple reading comprehension. Like I said - I saw the comments on Chron.com and I was like "What the HECK" - it was an attack on Katy for the most part and hardly any mention of MR. Sounded like some sour grapes - which I've been known to have at times so I understand having them at certain times - but in this case, they were totally unwarranted and undeserved.

chhspantherfan
08-10-2009, 08:55 AM
300 has a true fact of a point.

Dada, careful what you sleep on;)

has09
08-10-2009, 09:03 AM
My source says this thing has potential to get real, real ugly. Ugly to the point arrests could be made and jail time. It's that serious.

KISD is good at protecting the image and keeping things hush, hush but I dunno if this one will be able to stay in house, esp if arrests get made.

dada
08-10-2009, 09:08 AM
My source says this thing has potential to get real, real ugly. Ugly to the point arrests could be made and jail time. It's that serious.

KISD is good at protecting the image and keeping things hush, hush but I dunno if this one will be able to stay in house, esp if arrests get made.

I don't think it's a case of keeping things hush....there are several legal issues surronding it and an investigation in process. Trust me, it will all come out in due time.

twcpfan1
08-10-2009, 09:14 AM
The official name of the South County CISD schools are:

Conroe The Woodlands
Conroe Oak Ridge
Conroe The Woodlands College Park

I can't imagine a problem at any one of these schools being perceived or even mistaken as having at all anything to do with Conroe HS.

Are people suggesting that the problem is not just isolated to MRHS? Or was it a pure case of mistaken identity which quite frankly would be really dumb.

The King
08-10-2009, 09:17 AM
My source says this thing has potential to get real, real ugly. Ugly to the point arrests could be made and jail time. It's that serious.

KISD is good at protecting the image and keeping things hush, hush but I dunno if this one will be able to stay in house, esp if arrests get made.

Remember everyone has a right to due process. They are right to keep quiet while they investigate. It would really be bad if they spoke too soon.

I understand the seriousness of the issues involved, but their is a right way and wrong way to proceed.

I hate to see Morton Ranch go through all of this.

SWMHebron
08-10-2009, 09:20 AM
The official name of the South County CISD schools are:

Conroe The Woodlands
Conroe Oak Ridge
Conroe The Woodlands College Park

I can't imagine a problem at any one of these schools being perceived or even mistaken as having at all anything to do with Conroe HS.

Are people suggesting that the problem is not just isolated to MRHS? Or was it a pure case of mistaken identity which quite frankly would be really dumb.

I think people see "Katy" and ignore the "Morton Ranch" or whatever else may come after it.

When one hears (or reads) something with "Katy" and "football" then Katy HS is the only thing most people will perceive.

dada
08-10-2009, 09:20 AM
The official name of the South County CISD schools are:

Conroe The Woodlands
Conroe Oak Ridge
Conroe The Woodlands College Park

I can't imagine a problem at any one of these schools being perceived or even mistaken as having at all anything to do with Conroe HS.

Are people suggesting that the problem is not just isolated to MRHS? Or was it a pure case of mistaken identity which quite frankly would be really dumb.

Lets say The Woodlands had a history of winning titles and were "Hated" in the general area, always being accused of SOMETHING or everything they do was down played.

Then something illegal pops up at College Park....several times in recent years and the headline always said "Woodlands coach suspened" or "Woodlands Football player caught with Steroids", "Woodlands team accused of recruiting"...Cp is IN the Woodlands, but you could see where the HIGHLANDER fans would be tired of it.

has09
08-10-2009, 09:24 AM
I agree this thing needs to be kept quiet for the potential legal process to work itself out but I'm just saying its that bad.

KISD is good at keeping things in house. Didn't they have a pretty nasty school board scandal not too long ago?

cyfallsbooster2
08-10-2009, 09:27 AM
My good fan, you might want to re-read the post you quoted the above reponse to!

Katy....the community!

When it comes right down to it, you basically have to understand that this is not about football, this is about people's lives....kids lives that are being affected. We certainly will banter about football, but not the lives of young people!! I believe you are one to quickly jump onto to folks when they attack kids, right? Well the same goes here.

Katy ISD fans are in support of the kids and will be touchy about off-handed remarks that are only being said to smear Katy...the community. True, a lot of them are bashing the Tigers, but just like MR, the Tigers are apart of this community, so it is obvious why Katy Tiger fans would be touchy.

Well said. Thank you for the clarification and clearing up my mis-conception.;)

E-Vol-ution
08-10-2009, 09:28 AM
I doubt Arlington HS gets any of the flack for anything happening at our other schools.
There's a few posters aiming at the ISD and city of Katy.....some from the district, some from HISD (a little animosity in a few), and plenty from folks who feel HS football programs in general have run amok.
It's still early, so plenty of speculation is swirling. We'll see where the ducks are. Hopefully, this is isolated.
The official name of the South County CISD schools are:

Conroe The Woodlands
Conroe Oak Ridge
Conroe The Woodlands College Park

I can't imagine a problem at any one of these schools being perceived or even mistaken as having at all anything to do with Conroe HS.

Are people suggesting that the problem is not just isolated to MRHS? Or was it a pure case of mistaken identity which quite frankly would be really dumb.

twcpfan1
08-10-2009, 09:29 AM
Lets say The Woodlands had a history of winning titles and were "Hated" in the general area, always being accused of SOMETHING or everything they do was down played.

Then something illegal pops up at College Park....several times in recent years and the headline always said "Woodlands coach suspened" or "Woodlands Football player caught with Steroids", "Woodlands team accused of recruiting"...Cp is IN the Woodlands, but you could see where the HIGHLANDER fans would be tired of it.

The Woodlands are hated. Even more than Katy is. If the Article was titled as such, then it's a stupid way to title it and everybody would automatically assume that it is The Woodlands. Substitute your article title with 'Cy Fair', and it would be the same thing. But it's sensationalized journalism isn't it. So it was probably done on purpose to catch everybody's attention.

The Woodlands are used to all the accusations. Cheap shot guys, poor sports, worst fans, etc etc. One thing they do not ever do is b.tch about it. Almost not at all. That, I will give them credit for.

dada
08-10-2009, 09:31 AM
The Woodlands are hated. Even more than Katy is. If the Article was titled as such, then it's a stupid way to title it and everybody would automatically assume that it is The Woodlands. Substitute your article title with 'Cy Fair', and it would be the same thing. But it's sensationalized journalism isn't it. So it was probably done on purpose to catch everybody's attention.

Exactly.....and it's not the first time. Saying "Katy" gets more attention than saying "Morton Ranch" and I don't blame the Katy fans for being ticked at it. During the cheerleader scandal...they actually used photos of Katy HS...lol

The King
08-10-2009, 09:34 AM
Exactly.....and it's not the first time. Saying "Katy" gets more attention than saying "Morton Ranch" and I don't blame the Katy fans for being ticked at it. During the cheerleader scandal...they actually used photos of Katy HS...lol

They usually aren't concerned with facts in the news.

twcpfan1
08-10-2009, 09:39 AM
Exactly.....and it's not the first time. Saying "Katy" gets more attention than saying "Morton Ranch" and I don't blame the Katy fans for being ticked at it. During the cheerleader scandal...they actually used photos of Katy HS...lol

We are in agreement. The writer obviously used KHS as an opportunity to juice up the article. Using those photos is just unforgiveable

E-Vol-ution
08-10-2009, 09:50 AM
That sounds a little different. The Woodlands is technically just an area still being that's it's not incorporated and doesn't have a "Woodlands ISD" with member high schools in it. College Park is called just that (never seen it any other way). I see what you're saying......it's just difficult applying the hypothetical due to the territorial set up . Lets say The Woodlands had a history of winning titles and were "Hated" in the general area, always being accused of SOMETHING or everything they do was down played.

Then something illegal pops up at College Park....several times in recent years and the headline always said "Woodlands coach suspened" or "Woodlands Football player caught with Steroids", "Woodlands team accused of recruiting"...Cp is IN the Woodlands, but you could see where the HIGHLANDER fans would be tired of it.

dada
08-10-2009, 09:54 AM
That sounds a little different. The Woodlands is technically just an area still being that's it's not incorporated and doesn't have a "Woodlands ISD" with member high schools in it. College Park is called just that (never seen it any other way). I see what you're saying......it's just difficult applying the hypothetical due to the territorial set up .

Well replace "Woodlands or Katy" with Arlington.....the Colts fans would be sensative about it..lol Also, if you never seen it that way...ask TWCP1 what his handle stands for.. The Woodlands College Park...lol

Favpack
08-10-2009, 10:00 AM
http://www.katytimes.com/articles/2009/08/09/news/doc4a7ce49d41bb8058368358.txt

Yeah, I feel for all the supporters, kids, etc. - but this could galvanize the team to reach new heights. We'll see.

tigerfan2010
08-10-2009, 10:05 AM
Joe Mitchell involved in this too??

Owned05
08-10-2009, 10:07 AM
Joe Mitchell involved in this too??

You should call up the Morton Ranch field house and ask..

CoveMom
08-10-2009, 10:08 AM
http://www.katytimes.com/articles/2009/08/09/news/doc4a7ce49d41bb8058368358.txt

Yeah, I feel for all the supporters, kids, etc. - but this could galvanize the team to reach new heights. We'll see.

You know what I just noticed? Everybody else probably already got this but it was the TOP THREE coaches in the program. Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, and Defensive Coordinator.

Whoever said these things take two to tango was absolutely correct. And Hum, having finally noticed this, your "Tip of the iceberg" comments must be right on.


I do feel bad for the team members. It is going to be a rough year. Anyone who hears how practice went today, please pass it on.


CoveMom

KattTx
08-10-2009, 10:11 AM
My heart and prayers go out for the players and especially the senior players. Senior year is something special in this great sport - full of it's own ups and downs when things are normal. To add this burden to the kids is unforgivable.

Guys, just remember that strength often comes from struggle. You will be stronger for having endured and hopefully triumphed over it!

E-Vol-ution
08-10-2009, 10:15 AM
That was really the first comparison I thought of. Arlington the city itself is maligned quite badly from surrounding areas due to a crime spots or gang incidents in certain areas. I doubt the Colts bear any of the burden.......but we all hear the Arlington insults in aggregate mostly from "well heeled" folk who disregard the fact there are plenty "well heeled" folks right here too. Our ISD as a whole is pretty good considering the size of it and multitude of different people.
I myself being an outsider just see distinct exits on the highway for The Woodlands and College Park and never associated one with the other. I did associate parts of the Woodlands with Houston and Conroe however.
Well replace "Woodlands or Katy" with Arlington.....the Colts fans would be sensative about it..lol Also, if you never seen it that way...ask TWCP1 what his handle stands for.. The Woodlands College Park...lol

dragonpants
08-10-2009, 10:34 AM
Boy you Katy folks are awefully sensitive. If you want people to stop hating you then just lose some football games. :D
We feel your pain and it is just as frustrating as the people who love when Carroll has a season that is less successful by our standards.
I personally enjoy the hatred and negativity it is all jealousy.

You guys have a great program and great fans (most of you) so just enjoy it and realize the hate mongering come with success. Any threads out there extolling hatred toward Grapevine????????? Wonder why. No one cares.

Katygirl07
08-10-2009, 10:45 AM
There was a comment that was posted just recently on the Katy Times article from one of the coaches wives. It was deleted by the either her or the Katy Times. It had some interesting details. I have it copied. I could post it but I am not sure if I am allowed to. :confused:

tigerfan2010
08-10-2009, 10:48 AM
Let er rip...

SWMHebron
08-10-2009, 10:54 AM
There was a comment that was posted just recently on the Katy Times article from one of the coaches wives. It was deleted by the either her or the Katy Times. It had some interesting details. I have it copied. I could post it but I am not sure if I am allowed to. :confused:

While a new member has encouraged you to do so, I would await input from one of the moderators.

Katygirl07
08-10-2009, 10:57 AM
I have actually chosen not to post it on the boards out of respect simply because it does have quite a few intimate details about their personal life and marriage.

dada
08-10-2009, 10:57 AM
Speaking for the KT's....if it was pulled from there, it was a reason. Like we've said...there are several legal issues surronding it and there is also a lot of he say, she say things being said. Parents and players read the board and I think it would be better to wait for the truth.

THE 300
08-10-2009, 11:09 AM
Speaking for the KT's....if it was pulled from there, it was a reason. Like we've said...there are several legal issues surronding it and there is also a lot of he say, she say things being said. Parents and players read the board and I think it would be better to wait for the truth.

OK I need some investors. Hollywood is waiting for our phone call.

ktCarl
08-10-2009, 11:21 AM
Boy you Katy folks are awefully sensitive. If you want people to stop hating you then just lose some football games. :D
We feel your pain and it is just as frustrating as the people who love when Carroll has a season that is less successful by our standards.
I personally enjoy the hatred and negativity it is all jealousy.

You guys have a great program and great fans (most of you) so just enjoy it and realize the hate mongering come with success. Any threads out there extolling hatred toward Grapevine????????? Wonder why. No one cares.

HEY! Katy lost 3 games last year. Good enough? :Music

THE 300
08-10-2009, 11:38 AM
HEY! Katy lost 3 games last year. Good enough? :Music


I should be clear. The made for TV movie is about the activities at MR and the ensuing scandal(s), if any.

Unfortunately, there will not be enough time to develop the story line around how it ultimately was all about Katy High. I know this is a tough one, so I thought that I would bring it up before we start casting.:p

dragonpants
08-10-2009, 11:39 AM
HEY! Katy lost 3 games last year. Good enough? :Music

but you won the last one and that is all anyone cares about.

Kat-na-hat
08-10-2009, 11:44 AM
I have actually chosen not to post it on the boards out of respect simply because it does have quite a few intimate details about their personal life and marriage.

Good Call, The discussion should be around how we support the KISD family and 17-5 in general.

Kat-na-hat
08-10-2009, 11:48 AM
but you won the last one and that is all anyone cares about.


:notworthy Thank you. By the way, what are dragon pants? :)

dada
08-10-2009, 11:49 AM
:notworthy Thank you. By the way, what are dragon pants? :)

Green leather chaps with the butt out.

Kat-na-hat
08-10-2009, 11:57 AM
Green leather chaps with the butt out.

:eek::laugh Holy Crap Batman, was that the Green......oh gross.....dude......

slcdragonfan
08-10-2009, 12:00 PM
Green leather chaps with the butt out.

Now, tell me again, where do you hang out Dada? :eek:

KattTx
08-10-2009, 12:19 PM
Go read the comments in the Chronicle. That's where the anti-Katy sneers began. They were just relayed over here.

I have been reading through the comments and feeling sorry for the Katy HS players having to read all the snarky comments. And lo and behold I come across an Anti-Permian/ Abilene reference!! :D:D Honestly lol'ed!!

Don't mess with Katy football. Their methods are very much like the old stuff used by Odessa and Abilene back in the 1950's.

twcpfan1
08-10-2009, 12:35 PM
I think people see "Katy" and ignore the "Morton Ranch" or whatever else may come after it.

When one hears (or reads) something with "Katy" and "football" then Katy HS is the only thing most people will perceive.

You're probably right, but honestly, people in Houston should know by now that there is more than 1 HS in Katy ISD. But I also understand what you're saying and understand why the KHS fans are defensive to the point of denying they farted before the stink hits the room :D

Ultimately though, I can put up with all the hate if the trade off is winning as much as KHS does. I'd probably just laugh off the accusations and smile at the state rings

dada
08-10-2009, 12:46 PM
http://www.click2houston.com/video/20332298/index.html

cyfallsbooster2
08-10-2009, 12:54 PM
http://www.click2houston.com/video/20332298/index.html

What did she say? I was too busy looking.:D

dada
08-10-2009, 12:57 PM
What did she say? I was too busy looking.:D

Ok...try this one...lol
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=6955027

cyfallsbooster2
08-10-2009, 01:18 PM
Ok...try this one...lol
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=6955027

I just read some of the comments posted on the chronicle site after the story. If it were not so ignorant and hurtful to the kids and coaches most of the comments would be hilarious. Easy to tell that most are very unknowledgable of HS football to start with. But, I did giggle at the "wierd goober cult" remark. Is that what you joined into, dada?:eek:

dada
08-10-2009, 01:20 PM
I just read some of the comments posted on the chronicle site after the story. If it were not so ignorant and hurtful to the kids and coaches most of the comments would be hilarious. Easy to tell that most are very unknowledgable of HS football to start with. But, I did giggle at the "wierd goober cult" remark. Is that what you joined into, dada?:eek:

LMAO...I saw that...the guy said he went to a game at Rice...yes...the "Weird Gobber Gult" drug me it lol

The King
08-10-2009, 01:22 PM
What did she say? I was too busy looking.:D

She ain't to bad to look at.

cyfallsbooster2
08-10-2009, 01:24 PM
Ok...try this one...lol
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=6955027

I think that was the report I saw on tv where I first heard about this.

One question......Was that Morton Ranch's school field they were putting the sythetic turf on?:eek:

dada
08-10-2009, 01:26 PM
I think that was the report I saw on tv where I first heard about this.

One question......Was that Morton Ranch's school field they were putting the sythetic turf on?:eek:

All KISD schools got it this year.

cyfallsbooster2
08-10-2009, 01:26 PM
LMAO...I saw that...the guy said he went to a game at Rice...yes...the "Weird Gobber Gult" drug me it lol

I actually saw the comment and immediately thought, "dada!":Music

dada
08-10-2009, 01:27 PM
I actually saw the comment and immediately thought, "dada!":Music

That's the first thing most people think when they see me, KT2000 and KTcarl running to seats once the gates open...lol

cyfallsbooster2
08-10-2009, 01:28 PM
All KISD schools got it this year.

Wow!:eek:

dada
08-10-2009, 01:32 PM
Wow!:eek:

Don't quote me on that....but I know Katy and MR did....along with renovations to Rhodes.

KattTx
08-10-2009, 01:34 PM
I just read some of the comments posted on the chronicle site after the story. If it were not so ignorant and hurtful to the kids and coaches most of the comments would be hilarious. Easy to tell that most are very unknowledgable of HS football to start with. But, I did giggle at the "wierd goober cult" remark. Is that what you joined into, dada?:eek:

That was one of the more entertaining ones!! :D

cyfallsbooster2
08-10-2009, 01:35 PM
Don't quote me on that....but I know Katy and MR did....along with renovations to Rhodes.

Seems KISD would save that money to go towards a new stadium which they may be needing soon if they keep adding schools.

dada
08-10-2009, 01:36 PM
Seems KISD would save that money to go towards a new stadium which they may be needing soon if they keep adding schools.

True.....if Only they played at the Berry Center...I would be the happiest guy in the world...lol

cyfallsbooster2
08-10-2009, 01:42 PM
True.....if Only they played at the Berry Center...I would be the happiest guy in the world...lol

It's not big enough to hold the katy nation!

AMustz
08-10-2009, 01:42 PM
From 11 news at noon, someone who works at MR.
http://www.khou.com/news/local/stories/khou090810_jj_coach-controversy-katy-isd.c7f16527.html

dada
08-10-2009, 01:52 PM
From 11 news at noon, someone who works at MR.
http://www.khou.com/news/local/stories/khou090810_jj_coach-controversy-katy-isd.c7f16527.html

Boo Boo by Channel 11.....a players name is shown in that letter.

cyfallsbooster2
08-10-2009, 01:53 PM
From 11 news at noon, someone who works at MR.
http://www.khou.com/news/local/stories/khou090810_jj_coach-controversy-katy-isd.c7f16527.html

Now I DO want to see the movie!:D

Sounds like it will be over with shortly. Good for the kids and coaches!

THE 300
08-10-2009, 01:53 PM
From 11 news at noon, someone who works at MR.
http://www.khou.com/news/local/stories/khou090810_jj_coach-controversy-katy-isd.c7f16527.html

I wonder who the player is that had the incompleted grades updated to show complete? Weren't there just 2 players who got NCAA scholarships this year?

cyfallsbooster2
08-10-2009, 01:54 PM
Boo Boo by Channel 11.....a players name is shown in that letter.

I caught that too.:mad:

(And it was not the recruit! j/k!!!!!!!)

CyFallsMom
08-10-2009, 01:54 PM
My gosh, this is starting to sound like a conspiracy theory or something. I don't have a very good feeling about how this will end. If the district is involved in any untoward way, it will eventually involve all of the schools to ensure there are no wrong doings elsewhere.

Hopefully, this was all just someone thinking they could bring them down and, in fact, had nothing to back it up and everyone could get back to business.

dada
08-10-2009, 01:55 PM
I wonder who the player is that had the incompleted grades updated to show complete? Weren't there just 2 players who got NCAA scholarships this year?

Look again....closely.

THE 300
08-10-2009, 01:56 PM
I wonder who the player is that had the incompleted grades updated to show complete? Weren't there just 2 players who got NCAA scholarships this year?

Nevermind. I saw it.

THE 300
08-10-2009, 01:58 PM
My gosh, this is starting to sound like a conspiracy theory or something. I don't have a very good feeling about how this will end. If the district is involved in any untoward way, it will eventually involve all of the schools to ensure there are no wrong doings elsewhere.

Well, this certainly could help some. Rather than the emphasis being on winning, a coach could keep his job (or even get a new contract) just for having a clean program. I mean, how are you supposed to win if your competition is cheating?

BlakeJ
08-10-2009, 02:13 PM
Look again....closely.

Thats the first name that came to mind. Where did he end up going to school at?

dada
08-10-2009, 02:15 PM
Thats the first name that came to mind. Where did he end up going to school at?

Oklahoma St.

But again, we are all just speculating. The only facts are 3 coaches are on administrative leave while SOMETHING or SOMEONE is being investigated.

THE 300
08-10-2009, 02:16 PM
Thats the first name that came to mind. Where did he end up going to school at?

OK State

Owned05
08-10-2009, 02:43 PM
My gosh, this is starting to sound like a conspiracy theory or something. I don't have a very good feeling about how this will end. If the district is involved in any untoward way, it will eventually involve all of the schools to ensure there are no wrong doings elsewhere.

Hopefully, this was all just someone thinking they could bring them down and, in fact, had nothing to back it up and everyone could get back to business.

This would be ideal.

I think that is what we're all hoping for.

thptrek
08-10-2009, 03:09 PM
Did you see the $1250 check made out to CASH. Checks made out to cash are never a good idea and a huge red flag. If it was for a reimbursement why would you just not make it out to the person who should get reimbursed?

CoveMom
08-10-2009, 03:25 PM
I'm gonna need about 8,000 extras for some shots from a game. Yes, the Katy guys who always wear red and sit in a small cluster near the top can all wear red and sit together. It will make it more authentic.

Casting calls start this Saturday at 8am in DB86's driveway.

I was at the State Game last year wearing Red and in that group...can I come to?


(what kind of beer did you say you liked?)

DrEdward
08-10-2009, 03:26 PM
HEY! Katy lost 3 games last year. Good enough? :Music

Evidently not. :D:rolleyes:

SWMHebron
08-10-2009, 03:26 PM
If this is true...I hope she enjoy's prison...'cause that's where she's going. I'd rather wait till the official story comes out. Till then everything else is speculation in my book...not to discredit you, but there's just SO much crap out there.

It is beyond sad if one person is so filled with hate they don't care who or how many they hurt. This has ramifications for professional and private lives for the coaches, school choices for students, and lots of innocent names being drug through the mud.

DrEdward
08-10-2009, 03:39 PM
This entire mess seems awfully nebulous to me at this point; general and vague charges of illegal behavior with some sexual inuendo thrown in for good measure. The reporters should either get a bit more focused on what these coaches are alledged to have done or back off for the time being. What this is doing to the players in particular is just wrong.

twcpfan1
08-10-2009, 03:48 PM
That sounds a little different. The Woodlands is technically just an area still being that's it's not incorporated and doesn't have a "Woodlands ISD" with member high schools in it. College Park is called just that (never seen it any other way). I see what you're saying......it's just difficult applying the hypothetical due to the territorial set up .

There is a political reason why there isn't a Woodlands ISD. TWHFAN#1 is the best resource on why. I believe it has something to do with money and minorities. As far as the Woodlands not being incorporated, there were political considerations there too and deals struck to ensure that the main Villages in The Woodlands were not annexed by Houston or Conroe.

Believe me. Everybody in Houston sees The Woodlands as its own entity in spite of what it says on official documents. And that there are 2 High Schools in this 'town'

E-Vol-ution
08-10-2009, 03:50 PM
Anybody with the gall to make accusations of this magnitude won't stand a chance in a child custody battle.
This is getting to sound like "The Enquirer"..........If this is true...I hope she enjoy's prison...'cause that's where she's going. I'd rather wait till the official story comes out. Till then everything else is speculation in my book...not to discredit you, but there's just SO much crap out there.

The King
08-10-2009, 04:09 PM
Anybody with the gall to make accusations of this magnitude won't stand a chance in a child custody battle.
This is getting to sound like "The Enquirer"..........

For some reason I have been thinking of Jerry Springer all day, its really sad wheather it all turns out to be true, ot just acusations by a digruntled spouse, it is going to hurt a lot of people.

I still cannot see any way for this to end well.

THE 300
08-10-2009, 04:36 PM
There is a political reason why there isn't a Woodlands ISD. TWHFAN#1 is the best resource on why. I believe it has something to do with money and minorities. As far as the Woodlands not being incorporated, there were political considerations there too and deals struck to ensure that the main Villages in The Woodlands were not annexed by Houston or Conroe.

Believe me. Everybody in Houston sees The Woodlands as its own entity in spite of what it says on official documents. And that there are 2 High Schools in this 'town'

Why are there two converstions going on in this thread? We are talking about real news, which is the fact that the head coach and both coordinators are on administrative leave due to some very, very serious allegations. In the middle of it, we have to continue to talk about why the Katy fans got their feelers hurt and how Arlington, The Woodlands, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Wait! San Antonio Churchill. Dallas Carter. Midland Lee. ("It wasn't us!" screamed the Midland faithful. "Why is everyone always pointing at us??! Don't hate us becasue we are beautiful!!!").

Good grief.:rolleyes:

Mr. Rod
08-10-2009, 04:48 PM
Why are there two converstions going on in this thread? We are talking about real news, which is the fact that the head coach and both coordinators are on administrative leave due to some very, very serious allegations. In the middle of it, we have to continue to talk about why the Katy fans got their feelers hurt and how Arlington, The Woodlands, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Wait! San Antonio Churchill. Dallas Carter. Midland Lee. ("It wasn't us!" screamed the Midland faithful. "Why is everyone always pointing at us??! Don't hate us becasue we are beautiful!!!").

Good grief.:rolleyes:

Thank you for saying that.

E-Vol-ution
08-10-2009, 04:50 PM
Get over yourself beautiful.........area comparisons were made showing that some of you guys are being overly sensitive and a couple of you wanting the Katy name exclusively for yourselves was funny too.......lol.
Why are there two converstions going on in this thread? We are talking about real news, which is the fact that the head coach and both coordinators are on administrative leave due to some very, very serious allegations. In the middle of it, we have to continue to talk about why the Katy fans got their feelers hurt and how Arlington, The Woodlands, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Wait! San Antonio Churchill. Dallas Carter. Midland Lee. ("It wasn't us!" screamed the Midland faithful. "Why is everyone always pointing at us??! Don't hate us becasue we are beautiful!!!").

Good grief.:rolleyes:

Malmason
08-10-2009, 04:57 PM
Well, more news from Houston Chronicle posted at 4:41pm:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6567560.html

twcpfan1
08-10-2009, 05:00 PM
Why are there two converstions going on in this thread? We are talking about real news, which is the fact that the head coach and both coordinators are on administrative leave due to some very, very serious allegations. In the middle of it, we have to continue to talk about why the Katy fans got their feelers hurt and how Arlington, The Woodlands, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Wait! San Antonio Churchill. Dallas Carter. Midland Lee. ("It wasn't us!" screamed the Midland faithful. "Why is everyone always pointing at us??! Don't hate us becasue we are beautiful!!!").

Good grief.:rolleyes:

A statement was made by a poster not quite as familiar with that part of Houston as I was. And like E, said it was in reference to the sensitivity of the Katy fans as it relates to this issue. All I did was clarify it. Good Grief. There is a total of one MR poster who has contributed to this thread. Should the rest of them stay out of it too?

Mr. Rod
08-10-2009, 05:03 PM
Get over yourself beautiful.........area comparisons were made showing that some of you guys are being overly sensitive and a couple of you wanting the Katy name exclusively for yourselves was funny too.......lol.

300 he thinks your beautiful. :eek: J/P

dada
08-10-2009, 05:09 PM
Well, more news from Houston Chronicle posted at 4:41pm:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6567560.html

"When asked if Carter would be playing for the Mavericks, McVey said, "I don't know."

Carter was removed from the Touchdown Club of Houston's high school pre-season team Monday. The team will be honored during a banquet at 7 p.m. Wednesday at the J.W. Marriott.

"There are questions concerning his eligibility that won't be resolved in time for the banquet," said Neal Farmer, executive director of the Touchdown Club of Houston."

Mr. Rod
08-10-2009, 05:11 PM
"When asked if Carter would be playing for the Mavericks, McVey said, "I don't know."

Carter was removed from the Touchdown Club of Houston's high school pre-season team Monday. The team will be honored during a banquet at 7 p.m. Wednesday at the J.W. Marriott.

"There are questions concerning his eligibility that won't be resolved in time for the banquet," said Neal Farmer, executive director of the Touchdown Club of Houston."

Wowzers!! *Inspector Gadget Tone*

Red Raider Rick
08-10-2009, 05:15 PM
Hmmm...so the plot thickens.

ktCarl
08-10-2009, 05:25 PM
Why are there two converstions going on in this thread? We are talking about real news, which is the fact that the head coach and both coordinators are on administrative leave due to some very, very serious allegations. In the middle of it, we have to continue to talk about why the Katy fans got their feelers hurt and how Arlington, The Woodlands, etc, etc, blah blah blah. Wait! San Antonio Churchill. Dallas Carter. Midland Lee. ("It wasn't us!" screamed the Midland faithful. "Why is everyone always pointing at us??! Don't hate us becasue we are beautiful!!!").

Good grief.:rolleyes:

Shut up.

rodjohns
08-10-2009, 05:32 PM
Didnt Katy get some Stud RB from Humble or somewhere...jus askin...not tryin to stir up trouble or anything like that...or get banned from the site...:D

ktCarl
08-10-2009, 05:33 PM
"When asked if Carter would be playing for the Mavericks, McVey said, "I don't know."

Carter was removed from the Touchdown Club of Houston's high school pre-season team Monday. The team will be honored during a banquet at 7 p.m. Wednesday at the J.W. Marriott.

"There are questions concerning his eligibility that won't be resolved in time for the banquet," said Neal Farmer, executive director of the Touchdown Club of Houston."

That's what really hurts. I was looking forward to see Carter playing this season. I hope the best for him.

tigerfan2010
08-10-2009, 05:38 PM
Unfolding one at a time..

SWMHebron
08-10-2009, 05:39 PM
That's what really hurts. I was looking forward to see Carter playing this season. I hope the best for him.

Is he a senior this year?

Mr. Rod
08-10-2009, 05:47 PM
Is he a senior this year?

Think so.

C-DUB
08-10-2009, 05:48 PM
Is he a senior this year?

They are still investigating.

dada
08-10-2009, 06:56 PM
Didnt Katy get some Stud RB from Humble or somewhere...jus askin...not tryin to stir up trouble or anything like that...or get banned from the site...:D

Yep....I can name off 5 schools that got transfers off the top of my head also.

And we don't know...he COULD turn out to be a dud...lol...I mean this isn't competitive body building and he only has 5 games of varsity experience.;)

dada
08-10-2009, 06:56 PM
Is he a senior this year?

Yes

C-DUB
08-10-2009, 07:07 PM
Yep....I can name off 5 schools that got transfers off the top of my head also.

And we don't know...he COULD turn out to be a dud...lol...I mean this isn't competitive body building and he only has 5 games of varsity experience.;)

Thank you Jerry McGuire! Show me the money:D

THE 300
08-10-2009, 07:07 PM
A statement was made by a poster not quite as familiar with that part of Houston as I was. And like E, said it was in reference to the sensitivity of the Katy fans as it relates to this issue. All I did was clarify it. Good Grief. There is a total of one MR poster who has contributed to this thread. Should the rest of them stay out of it too?

I think they are all posting on the Chronicle site.:D

dada
08-10-2009, 07:09 PM
Thank you Jerry McGuire! Show me the money:D

Still waiting on my check...lol

THE 300
08-10-2009, 07:45 PM
I was a more than a little surprised when Carter moved to Katy play for Morton Ranch. You know, 7-23 all-time.

People move for all kinds of reasons, but to see a kid leave his friends, neighborhood, team and school going into his senior year of high school is highly unusual and has to be tough on him.

I can't even pretend that he is moving for football reasons. After all, that is against the rules. No one ever does that! :rolleyes: Seriously, this is a kid who had ten or so offers and has already verbally committed to the Horned Frogs of TCU.

I know everyone has their own situations and I am very familiar with the fact that all kids need help, some more than others, in this particular stage of life. They need to be in the right situation for them to grow and mature emotionally and mentally and to prepare for the adult life that will soon be upon them. I can only hope that is why he left his home to come to Katy and enroll at Morton Ranch for his senior year.

By the way, is there any truth to the rumor that Carter is living with this guy?

http://www.championsportsperformance.com/Trainees.html

rodjohns
08-10-2009, 07:48 PM
Yep....I can name off 5 schools that got transfers off the top of my head also.

And we don't know...he COULD turn out to be a dud...lol...I mean this isn't competitive body building and he only has 5 games of varsity experience.;)

I think this whole thing is going to shed some light on transfers..it seems to be a growing trend to move into the district you want to play for.

I thought there was a rule that stated you have to sit out a year if you played one down of Varsity Football, even if it was not for athletic reasons...am I wrong?

dada
08-10-2009, 07:51 PM
I think this whole thing is going to shed some light on transfers..it seems to be a growing trend to move into the district you want to play for.

I thought there was a rule that stated you have to sit out a year if you played one down of Varsity Football, even if it was not for athletic reasons...am I wrong?

I think it depends on the district and if you transfer during the school year. Heck...I went to 4 high schools...good thing I was "average" or the Feds(Uil) would have been kicking in my door.:D

dada
08-10-2009, 07:52 PM
I was a more than a little surprised when Carter moved to Katy play for Morton Ranch. You know, 7-23 all-time.

People move for all kinds of reasons, but to see a kid leave his friends, neighborhood, team and school going into his senior year of high school is highly unusual and has to be tough on him.

I can't even pretend that he is moving for football reasons. After all, that is against the rules. No one ever does that! :rolleyes: Seriously, this is a kid who had ten or so offers and has already verbally committed to the Horned Frogs of TCU.

I know everyone has their own situations and I am very familiar with the fact that all kids need help, some more than others, in this particular stage of life. They need to be in the right situation for them to grow and mature emotionally and mentally and to prepare for the adult life that will soon be upon them. I can only hope that is why he left his home to come to Katy and enroll at Morton Ranch for his senior year.

By the way, is there any truth to the rumor that Carter is living with this guy?

http://www.championsportsperformance.com/Trainees.html

Hmmmmmm.....
http://www.championsportsperformance.com/Scholarships.html

Mr. Rod
08-10-2009, 08:04 PM
Yep....I can name off 5 schools that got transfers off the top of my head also.

And we don't know...he COULD turn out to be a dud...lol...I mean this isn't competitive body building and he only has 5 games of varsity experience.;)

That's what the preseason's for. Im looking forward to seeing D.Young in action. That's a bad A** name for a RB anyways. I dont know why it just sounds good. lol

Mr. Rod
08-10-2009, 08:09 PM
I think it depends on the district and if you transfer during the school year. Heck...I went to 4 high schools...good thing I was "average" or the Feds(Uil) would have been kicking in my door.:D

Didn't know they sat out power house waterboys :D Just kidding. Don't tase me bro!!!

SWMHebron
08-10-2009, 08:22 PM
I was a more than a little surprised when Carter moved to Katy play for Morton Ranch. You know, 7-23 all-time.

People move for all kinds of reasons, but to see a kid leave his friends, neighborhood, team and school going into his senior year of high school is highly unusual and has to be tough on him.

I can't even pretend that he is moving for football reasons. After all, that is against the rules. No one ever does that! :rolleyes: Seriously, this is a kid who had ten or so offers and has already verbally committed to the Horned Frogs of TCU.

I know everyone has their own situations and I am very familiar with the fact that all kids need help, some more than others, in this particular stage of life. They need to be in the right situation for them to grow and mature emotionally and mentally and to prepare for the adult life that will soon be upon them. I can only hope that is why he left his home to come to Katy and enroll at Morton Ranch for his senior year.

By the way, is there any truth to the rumor that Carter is living with this guy?

http://www.championsportsperformance.com/Trainees.html

Then what would be the big attraction of moving to a new school? It sounds like he was getting plenty of attention. It's not like transferring to Morton Ranch is putting him in line for a state title.

E-Vol-ution
08-10-2009, 08:25 PM
Maybe he was getting away from detrimental elements.........I have no idea, but it's not uncommon.
Then what would be the big attraction of moving to a new school? It sounds like he was getting plenty of attention. It's not like transferring to Morton Ranch is putting him in line for a state title.

twcpfan1
08-10-2009, 08:32 PM
I think this whole thing is going to shed some light on transfers..it seems to be a growing trend to move into the district you want to play for.

I thought there was a rule that stated you have to sit out a year if you played one down of Varsity Football, even if it was not for athletic reasons...am I wrong?

If it is determined that the transfer was not for athletic reasons, the player does not have to sit out a year. And that's UIL wide.

cyfallsbooster2
08-10-2009, 08:48 PM
If it is determined that the transfer was not for athletic reasons, the player does not have to sit out a year. And that's UIL wide.

If I am not mistaken, which I don't believe I am since I worked with a dad who transferred his son to KHS, both the AD of the school they are leaving and the AD of the school they are transferring to must sign a form stating that the transfer is not for athletic reasons. So the paperwork should already be in place with the UIL. Of course, if for some reason the UIL wants to question that paperwork and investigate, they can.

And before anyone jumps to conclusions, it was not for football.:D

twcpfan1
08-10-2009, 08:53 PM
If I am not mistaken, which I don't believe I am since I worked with a dad who transferred his son to KHS, both the AD of the school they are leaving and the AD of the school they are transferring to must sign a form stating that the transfer is not for athletic reasons. So the paperwork should already be in place with the UIL. Of course, if for some reason the UIL wants to question that paperwork and investigate, they can.

And before anyone jumps to conclusions, it was not for football.:D

I think in Young's case all requirements were satisfied. Including signatures

cyfallsbooster2
08-10-2009, 09:01 PM
I think in Young's case all requirements were satisfied. Including signatures

The receiving coach can not allow the player to play unless he receives this form from the losing coach. That is one of the major checks and balance part of the policy.