All Heil Mack

[slorch]

Get on your knees and worship the greatest coach to ever grace the Steer nation. One game has made him the legend he is. Gone are all the NFL players that have played on the 40 acres before( but not for a championship), that were recruited by ole Mack. Gone are the lies and broken promises of playing for a National Championship, and telling the players that the Cotton Bowl is in the BCS. fading from memory are the days of convincing all of these blue chippers that the Big XII Championship is played in San Diego. Done are the beliefs that Oklahoma is the alma mater of Satan. One man could change all this, his name...Vince( I mean Mack Brown!!!! the best ever.

All heil Mack!!!
All heil Mack!!!

worship or die!!!


this is why I love the rusty cows!!!!!!!Ignorance is bliss, and they are the happiest people on earth!!!Your arrogance and blind love for an underachiever make it so much more enjoyable to NOT be a Steer lover.Enjoy your year in the sun!!!

[Texasfrog]

Get on your knees and worship the greatest coach to ever grace the Steer nation. One game has made him the legend he is. Gone are all the NFL players that have played on the 40 acres before( but not for a championship), that were recruited by ole Mack. Gone are the lies and broken promises of playing for a National Championship, and telling the players that the Cotton Bowl is in the BCS. fading from memory are the days of convincing all of these blue chippers that the Big XII Championship is played in San Diego. Done are the beliefs that Oklahoma is the alma mater of Satan. One man could change all this, his name...Vince( I mean Mack Brown!!!! the best ever.

All heil Mack!!!
All heil Mack!!!

worship or die!!!


this is why I love the rusty cows!!!!!!!Ignorance is bliss, and they are the happiest people on earth!!!Your arrogance and blind love for an underachiever make it so much more enjoyable to NOT be a Steer lover.Enjoy your year in the sun!!!

Life really suxs being an Aggie these days doesnt it ?? It's going to keep sucking for years to come bud because the AGs aint going anywhere anytime soon.

Hey horn fans... We got to really love the "Hate." It makes it that much more sweeter for me.:D

[slorch]

stay focused on the aggies, that's even better...

[jtk1519]

Please tell me how Texas has underachieved? Sadly, for you, the facts don't support this claim.

Since 2002 Texas has finished with the recruiting season (according to Rivals.com) with the #1 class (2002), the #15 class (2003), the #10 class (2004) and the #20 class (2005). In that time, Texas finished the season in the BCS rankings ranked #10 (2002), #6 (2003), #4 (2004) and #1 (2005). That means Texas' recruiting classes average out to #11 in the nation but in that time Texas has finished the year with an average ranking of #5 in the nation. So, the data clearly shows that Texas has been overachieving under Mack, but we keep hearing that Mack is "underachieving." Funny how all that baseless BS gets started and then gets repeated over and over by those too stupid to look at the facts and form an opinion of their own.

BTW, the word is "hail" not heil. If you're gonna talk sh** with no facts to back them up, at least learn how to f'n spell.

[SeguinMatadors]

Get on your knees and worship the greatest coach to ever grace the Steer nation. One game has made him the legend he is. Gone are all the NFL players that have played on the 40 acres before( but not for a championship), that were recruited by ole Mack. Gone are the lies and broken promises of playing for a National Championship, and telling the players that the Cotton Bowl is in the BCS. fading from memory are the days of convincing all of these blue chippers that the Big XII Championship is played in San Diego. Done are the beliefs that Oklahoma is the alma mater of Satan. One man could change all this, his name...Vince( I mean Mack Brown!!!! the best ever.

All heil Mack!!!
All heil Mack!!!

worship or die!!!


this is why I love the rusty cows!!!!!!!Ignorance is bliss, and they are the happiest people on earth!!!Your arrogance and blind love for an underachiever make it so much more enjoyable to NOT be a Steer lover.Enjoy your year in the sun!!!

Well said. As a horn fan, I completely agree. Vince was the reason... and that will be made more evident in the following seasons. Don't hate me because I am a realist. Don't let these guys throw out these bogus claims contending that Mack is a great coach. Any unbiased fan who watched him coach without VY in big games... knows what kind of coach he is.

[slorch]

there is no question about mr february is great at that aspect

He consistently gets the best of the best recruits from the best high school culture for football in the country

IMHO he should have 2-4 NC trophies by now with the talent that has graced Joe Jamail Field

The "Heil"was written in reference to the blind allegience to your leader( as in Nazi Germany .)

Did you ever open a book while at TU, or were you just a hay baler for the cheerleaders?

So defensive over someone who should not need your support...:eek:

[jtk1519]

Any unbiased fan who watched him coach without VY in big games... knows what kind of coach he is.

Please tell us... What exactlly does Mack coach and how has that coaching failed?

[SeguinMatadors]

BTW, the word is "hail" not heil. If you're gonna talk sh** with no facts to back them up, at least learn how to f'n spell.

We don't really need facts... it is pretty plain as day to see.. I could dig up a bunch of stats to support my claim... but I think it speaks for its self.

[jtk1519]

IMHO he should have 2-4 NC trophies by now with the talent that has graced Joe Jamail Field

As the facts I listed above prove, Mack's teams have consistently overachieved and played better than their talent level says they should.

Tech fans quoting Nazis... Wow, just wow.

[SeguinMatadors]

Please tell us... What exactlly does Mack coach and how has that coaching failed?

He is the head football coach of the Texas Longhorns and has failed to beat equally talented teams (Without VY) in the past.

[jtk1519]

We don't really need facts... it is pretty plain as day to see.. I could dig up a bunch of stats to support my claim... but I think it speaks for its self.

Do it... present these facts for all of us to see. Give us indisputable evidence the contradicts the facts I posted.

[jtk1519]

He is the head football coach of the Texas Longhorns and has failed to beat equally talented teams (Without VY) in the past.

You can't weasel out like that. You said "Any unbiased fan who watched him coach...". What exactly did you watch him coach?

[SeguinMatadors]

You can't weasel out like that. You said "Any unbiased fan who watched him coach...". What exactly did you watch him coach?

Well, lets see Einstein... seeing as he is the HEAD FOOTBALL COACH of the TEXAS LONGHORNS... I suppose he coached .. oh.. I dunno... Duke basketball?

[jtk1519]

Well, lets see Einstein... seeing as he is the HEAD FOOTBALL COACH of the TEXAS LONGHORNS... I suppose he coached .. oh.. I dunno... Duke basketball?

Um, what position does he coach that you have such a problem with? Is it his development of the QBs or RBs? Perhaps it's his play calling or defensive alignments. Where exactly has his coaching failed?

[SeguinMatadors]

Do it... present these facts for all of us to see. Give us indisputable evidence the contradicts the facts I posted.

That is the thing.... you are trying to make a point with the most terrible stat there is... "Recruiting class rank".... are you serious? That is like when those draft experts give you A's and B's on draft day... you know.. those ones that are more times than not trash? The guys who give these "rankings" haven't seen 99% of these players play. Watch football... I think you will find it gives you a better understanding of the game.

[SeguinMatadors]

Um, what position does he coach that you have such a problem with? Is it his development of the QBs or RBs? Perhaps it's his play calling or defensive alignments. Where exactly has his coaching failed?

Can you tell me the job of the head coach of a football team? Win games? Correct? I know you are going to throw out.. please look at the coach with at least 10 wins over the past 9434388 years and tell me who you see... you know what? I don't care. Please tell me his record against Bob Stoops... a team that matches up in talent against UT.

[slorch]

maybe it's the guy who sold out to Phil Simms, and played his boy over a winner

maybe it's the guy who consistently had his team tighter than a piano wire in the big games( OU multiple times, Bowls) UCLA,, Colo in Big Xii Champ.

laughably, he gave up his first game at Tech, when he had the superior team. He left Lubbock saying he had never seen a crowd like that. HOW? It's his job to know the history, the weight that game has in Lubbock to the lowly Red Raiders.

It's ludicrous to question the program.
It's crazy to impune it's players
It's fun to get y'all riled up
Mack is a good coach, nothing more.
High water covers lots of stumps, and he is swimming in a river of talent.

[Favpack]

there is no question about mr february is great at that aspect

He consistently gets the best of the best recruits from the best high school culture for football in the country

IMHO he should have 2-4 NC trophies by now with the talent that has graced Joe Jamail Field

The "Heil"was written in reference to the blind allegience to your leader( as in Nazi Germany .)

Did you ever open a book while at TU, or were you just a hay baler for the cheerleaders?

So defensive over someone who should not need your support...:eek:

Lurch - what has A&M's record been the past 4 years? How about Tech? Get a life Slurpee. Your baby-faced whining was cute for about 2 posts - now you're just a loser posting whiny-babble. Go re-arrange your panty drawer.

[jtk1519]

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5335/fthehaters5lo.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fthehaters5lo.jpg)

[slorch]

As the facts I listed above prove, Mack's teams have consistently overachieved and played better than their talent level says they should.

Tech fans quoting Nazis... Wow, just wow.
when did I quote a Nazi?

[slorch]

Lurch - what has A&M's record been the past 4 years? How about Tech? Get a life Slurpee. Your baby-faced whining was cute for about 2 posts - now you're just a loser posting whiny-babble. Go re-arrange your panty drawer.
who's whining? what's a melody without a beat?I'm the only quality control in here, otherwise it would be a cesspool of orange in here

does every one in here have to like UT? that is the whole point of
" All Heil Mack" I guess that understanding that concept is over your head.

(your girl was here and we did some panty arranging already)- I'm not one to get personal, but you started this one!:eek:

[Favpack]

You might have a point if Mack had taken over a powerhouse winner - but UT had been mediocre for years - it took him 3-4 years to get Texas players back in Austin - he's been pretty salty the past 5. Yes, they should have beaten OU twice and probably should have beat Colorado in the Big 12 title game - but Colo. killed Nebraska the week before and was on a great roll.

[SeguinMatadors]

You might have a point if Mack had taken over a powerhouse winner - but UT had been mediocre for years - it took him 3-4 years to get Texas players back in Austin - he's been pretty salty the past 5. Yes, they should have beaten OU twice and probably should have beat Colorado in the Big 12 title game - but Colo. killed Nebraska the week before and was on a great roll.

Well, that is a start. You are starting to see the light. How do you feel about the Chris Simms- Major debacle?

[farmerfan]

who's whining? what's a melody without a beat?I'm the only quality control in here, otherwise it would be a cesspool of orange in here

does every one in here have to like UT? that is the whole point of
" All Heil Mack" I guess that understanding that concept is over your head.

(your girl was here and we did some panty arranging already)- I'm not one to get personal, but you started this one!:eek:


I hate Texas. But you have to give Mack credit for how he handled Vince. They scaled back on their offense and if you listened to his interview during the Rose Bowl you would have noticed when he said the best way to coach Vince was to play into his strengths. That is the sign of a quality coach. He could have been stubborn and had Vince do things the way he was used to but he didnt. It is fun to make fun of Mack and some of the thigns he says or does, but the reality of it all is that this year he did a excellent coaching job and has been doing so for the past few years. There is only one team who will be crowned national champs and by your standards it sounds like every team underachieves. Has Bob Stoops been underachieving the past 3 years?

[mtbray]

who's whining? what's a melody without a beat?I'm the only quality control in here, otherwise it would be a cesspool of orange in here


You obviously haven't been around too long, as farmerfran has already filled that role...and he's someone every one of us can and should respect because of his knowledge of the game.

Since the site doesn't need you, why don't you go camp out on some train tracks.

[slorch]

You obviously haven't been around too long, as farmerfran has already filled that role...and he's someone every one of us can and should respect because of his knowledge of the game.

Since the site doesn't need you, why don't you go camp out on some train tracks.
i would not want to push you out of your home...

nice to be appreciated

[mtbray]

Please tell us... What exactlly does Mack coach and how has that coaching failed?

This was never answered, and I know where you're going w/it jtk, so why don't you please enligthen us, oh wise slorch.

[wide-e-wide]

Again...Tech fans talking smack?
Gimme a break dude.

and Seguin...I thought you were a Horns fan? What's with all the haterism?

The ONLY NCAA head coach with at least 9 wins every season for the last 10 seasons.........

That is all I have to say...You cannot argue the facts.

[slorch]

maybe it's the guy who sold out to Phil Simms, and played his boy over a winner

maybe it's the guy who consistently had his team tighter than a piano wire in the big games( OU multiple times, Bowls) UCLA,, Colo in Big Xii Champ.

laughably, he gave up his first game at Tech, when he had the superior team. He left Lubbock saying he had never seen a crowd like that. HOW? It's his job to know the history, the weight that game has in Lubbock to the lowly Red Raiders.

It's ludicrous to question the program.
It's crazy to impune it's players
It's fun to get y'all riled up
Mack is a good coach, nothing more.
High water covers lots of stumps, and he is swimming in a river of talent.

Since you could not read it the first time.

I never said he's a failure.

It took a player as great as VY to get it over the top.

[wide-e-wide]

Since you could not read it the first time.

I never said he's a failure.

It took a player as great as VY to get it over the top.


Wow...no great coach has ever needed a great player to push his team over the hump huh???

[mtbray]

Alright well since you didn't say he's a failure.....


What exactly does Mack Brown coach? What exactly does he do? I mean since it's so apparent...

[slorch]

This year makes it all go away...
I get it

For someone that's not a Steerlover, He's fun to watch.

The best thing is how defensive everyone gets on here. I might as well be talking about Mom or God or something... It's comical.

If he's so great, his legacy should speak for itself.

But when you rusty cows start harping about him, it's the same ole self promoting BS from Duh University of Texas.

Enjoy the year... find a QB this summer:p

[wide-e-wide]

Already have a QB...maybe sand aggy should find one...


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/owned.jpg







So since they don't have to spend the summer finding a QB...maybe they can win another College World Series...to pass the time until football season gets here.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/CWS115062222_lower.jpg


poor sand aggy.

[mtbray]

This year makes it all go away...
I get it

For someone that's not a Steerlover, He's fun to watch.

The best thing is how defensive everyone gets on here. I might as well be talking about Mom or God or something... It's comical.

If he's so great, his legacy should speak for itself.

But when you rusty cows start harping about him, it's the same ole self promoting BS from Duh University of Texas.

Enjoy the year... find a QB this summer:p

I'm not defensive, we have a National Championship in Football and Baseball....get serious.

How about you reply to our posts? If you can, that is.

[mtbray]

Damn it wide, ya beat me to it! Oh and by the way....since your daughters are gonna be dating anyway....what about a nice Longhorn fella like myself? :D

[wide-e-wide]

Damn it wide, ya beat me to it! Oh and by the way....since your daughters are gonna be dating anyway....what about a nice Longhorn fella like myself? :D

Both of those pics are just beautiful...I have about 15 pics of Hodges eating grass and dirt.

and

I'm not that old...damn...

By the time they are dating...you will be married with kids yourself. Hahaha...

[slorch]

I am laughing. The pictures are a nice touch.

IMHO, Herrel should have been the QB THIS year, not next. At least I know the mad scientist is loyal to his players, unlike the Applewhite debacle.

Evidently, you just want to smooch and love all over each other for the next year.It's been over a week, move on! I can't believe anyone would not worship the Nutless Wonders, much less come on here and talk bad about them.

I get a feeling that if you disagree with Wide's narrow minded opinions or his teams, well you should be banished from the kingdom,Thus, the title of this thread, and some of you played right into it.:p

[slorch]

one other thing, looks like Rodrique is watching Taurean run with the ball down field. He did not sack Hodges, hell it was probably a late hit!!!:rolleyes:

[biki1121]

Oh since everyone on here loves stats!!!


Mack vs. Top 25

21-14


Mack vs. Top 15

9-12


Mack vs. Top 10

5-9

Mack vs. Top 5

3-6 (tOSU and USC this year gives him some respect)


Bowden, Paterno, Spurrier kinda set the standard for great coaches in CFB. Osbourne's record was interesting against the same stat spread.
Mack's record at UNC was similar and that is why he was feeling some heat before he came to Texas.

But maybe Mack has turned the corner and is starting his legacy as a championship coach! Time will tell!

[slorch]

thanks for the put-back( rebound)

[Texasfrog]

Since you could not read it the first time.

I never said he's a failure.

It took a player as great as VY to get it over the top.

Haha.. I love it man. Teams like Florida St, Miami, USC, LSU & Oklahoma. They didnt have great players that helped push them to the promise land over the past years ???

I guess Pete Carroll suxs now. He had 2 Heisman winners on his team and they lost the N.T to Texas. So now we cancel out those past 2 N.T. he has because he couldnt win the big one with 2 Heisman winners and a team loaded with NFL talent.

I love your HATE ...

[jtk1519]

one other thing, looks like Rodrique is watching Taurean run with the ball down field. He did not sack Hodges, hell it was probably a late hit!!!:rolleyes:

Rod Wright is #90... that's #80 Tim Crowder.

As for Harrell, he broke his leg in the offseason and was never really an option to start the season. He was fairly healthy by the time the season started, but all the practice he missed gave Hodges a clear edge.

[biki1121]

Because the comparison was made in another thread and I already posted Mack thus far at Texas....


DKR!!!!!!

Vs. top 25

26-25-3

Vs. top 15

23-21-3

Vs. top 10

17-19-1

Vs. top 5

9-7-1


My favorite DKR quote! In an interview with the Post after winning the NC, DKR was asked the secret to his success at Texas. DKR replies, "When you give out 200 scholarships a year you can find a kid or two that can play."

Beyond anything, that guy could coach in the big game!!

[mtbray]

Haha.. I love it man. Teams like Florida St, Miami, USC, LSU & Oklahoma. They didnt have great players that helped push them to the promise land over the past years ???

I guess Pete Carroll suxs now. He had 2 Heisman winners on his team and they lost the N.T to Texas. So now we cancel out those past 2 N.T. he has because he couldnt win the big one with 2 Heisman winners and a team loaded with NFL talent.

I love your HATE ...

Damn it it was one title! I expected more from you

[SeguinMatadors]

This was never answered, and I know where you're going w/it jtk, so why don't you please enligthen us, oh wise slorch.


Can you tell me the job of the head coach of a football team? Win games? Correct? I know you are going to throw out.. please look at the coach with at least 10 wins over the past 9434388 years and tell me who you see... you know what? I don't care. Please tell me his record against Bob Stoops... a team that matches up in talent against UT. <<<< See this.

[SeguinMatadors]

Again...Tech fans talking smack?
Gimme a break dude.

and Seguin...I thought you were a Horns fan? What's with all the haterism?

The ONLY NCAA head coach with at least 9 wins every season for the last 10 seasons.........

That is all I have to say...You cannot argue the facts.

I love the Horns... I have spent countless money on Horns games... Horns shirts... if you would see my closet you would know I have burnt orange blood running through my vains. However, I have been a horns fan for long enough to believe that Mack Brown has done a great coaching job here. A great recruiting job? Absolutely.

First of all, I would like to say I will never get over the missing National and Big 12 championship with the way he handlled the Simms- Major situation.

Those games against OU were a joke... no way the Sooners should have handled us like that for so many years. They were not more talented than us all of those years and sure as hell weren't 49 or 52 pts more talented than us in any given year.

Losing in the Holiday bowl to Washington St. and Oregon... but especially Washington St. was just terrible. I think the loss to Colorodo in the Big 12 championship speaks for its-self.

[SeguinMatadors]

Oh since everyone on here loves stats!!!


Mack vs. Top 25

21-14


Mack vs. Top 15

9-12


Mack vs. Top 10

5-9

Mack vs. Top 5

3-6 (tOSU and USC this year gives him some respect)


Bowden, Paterno, Spurrier kinda set the standard for great coaches in CFB. Osbourne's record was interesting against the same stat spread.
Mack's record at UNC was similar and that is why he was feeling some heat before he came to Texas.

But maybe Mack has turned the corner and is starting his legacy as a championship coach! Time will tell!

Ouch.

[jtk1519]

I have never in my life seen people gripe about a coach just days after winning a national championship. I say move this thread to classics because it is loaded with aggyesque comedy gold. I haven't laughed this hard since Hebie picked aggy to win the Big XII.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5335/fthehaters5lo.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fthehaters5lo.jpg)

[KT2000]

This thread is highly entertaining...from the unfortunate misspell in the title of the post on down.

[slorch]

I said Mack was good, but not great, and I'm tearing him down,

All Heil Mack!!!
All Heil Mack!!!

dumbutt Tu fans are the only ones making Aggie comments- not me!

All Heil Mack!!!
All Heil Mack!!!

Any feedback not 100% for the Nutless Wonders will get you run through

All Heil Mack!!!
All Heil Mack!!!

[slorch]

This thread is highly entertaining...from the unfortunate misspell in the title of the post on down.
It is spelled that way on purpose.

and i'm supposed to respect everybody else's posts?

[Texasfrog]

Damn it it was one title! I expected more from you

Like I said.... many other elite teams are loaded with tons of talent when they win the National Title.

There was alot more to this Texas team then just Vincent Young. There is probably about 15 kids on that Texas team (Sr, Jr, So.) that will be in the NFL. If not more... That's a pretty talented team. Yes, Vincent Young was a big reason for it but most teams have one or two players that make the team extra special.

next... How many National Titles does Joe Pa and Bowden have ?? I think its about 4 total isnt it...?? Lets see.. two of the Highest winning percentage coaches of all time that have been at there respective schools for freaking about 30 years each (Penn St and Fla St) and they have 2 National Titles each..

I think Mack Brown has Texas playing a pretty high level and has accomplished alot for being at Texas less then 10 years now. A few #5 teams and now a National Title.

I also dont think Texas is going anywhere anytime soon. Yes, we might not win the National Title next season but I think Texas is at the point now where its going to be in the hunt and making serious noise for years to come.

There has been times that I didnt like the decisions Mack Brown made ( Simms over Applewhite) I dont think I'll ever get over that. But, its water under the bridge now. If you look at what Mack Brown has done for UT he really has brought the program back to life (Top National level) and that good enough for me.

We could look back at every coach on every level (High school, college and PRo) and find many things to question if we really wanted to..

Honestly I think its mostly alot of people that are just Texas haters that want to somehow put some kind of blemish on what Texas has done this year.

[slorch]

the only blemish is the innability of some to be objective

[KT2000]

I'd look in the mirror if I were you slorch. No one is without bias.

Mack Brown is the most successful coach (as far as W/L goes) Texas has had in over 30 years, and now he has a national championship to go with the other accomplishments. Kind of speaks for itself.

[jtk1519]

This thread is highly entertaining...from the unfortunate misspell in the title of the post on down.

Didn't you hear... it's a nazi thing. :eek: I know, I was stunned too, but apparently if you have a problem with, or disagree, another fan base, you can start lumping them in with nazis. I'm still stunned.

[slorch]

nope, but I was simply saying mack's trevails at Tu are so quickly forgotten, really because VY took over the last 4:30 minutes of that game after SC stretched their lead to 12.

Look at my posts, my railings are generally against the arrogance of fans and blind allegience. After the game, I gave UT their props, repeatedly, but swore no allegience to the Steers. But to ordain Mack as the second coming, well I say he has wasted at least a couple of championship teams( this part is my opinion and I have stated so)

The rest of this thread grew because of some beleif that everybody should worship the rusty cows, especially Coach Brown, thus, the Nazi reference in the title, All Heil Mack.

Tech is what it is, I don't proclaim it as something else.

[jtk1519]

Take note everybody... if you support your coach, you're a nazi. :rolleyes:

[SeguinMatadors]

If you look at what Mack Brown has done for UT he really has brought the program back to life (Top National level) and that good enough for me.


I think that is the diff. between you other horns fans and I. I am not content with winning 9-10 games a season if we can't win the big ones.... I don't like a girl who teases and I certainly don't like a football team who teases.... especially when... if we had a better coach... we would have at least one more national championship.

[slorch]

i can see that Mack's win total this year is higher than your IQ

Come on...I didn't mean to hurt your feelings(laughing)

[SeguinMatadors]

Take note everybody... if you support your coach, you're a nazi. :rolleyes:

I think he was trying to emphasis the fact that you will most likely get attacked if you say something negative about Mack.

[wide-e-wide]

Nazis???
Wrong school...the cult of Nazis reside in Bryan/College Station.

[KT2000]

I haven't seen any posts ordaining Mack or claiming him as a "second coming".

From where I'm sitting, I think Texas fans are naturally excited about what just happened this season and are celebrating it. Brown deserves the credit he's getting right now in my opinion.

Prior to this season, he took a lot of crap for Oklahoma and not winning the big game. Players ultimately win or lose games while coaches put them in position, and Texas finally had a team this year strong enough all-around to win a national championship. The last time the Horns were in as strong of a position as they were this year was 2001, and I'm sure Mack didn't tell Simms to throw five interceptions against Colorado.

Getting in position for the big game hasn't been easy, and I don't think Texas fans discount that. Mack took both due and undue critisism on the big game results and think the hardcore critics lost sight of the fact he was/is the best coach UT has had since DKR was on campus.

The Nazi reference is over the top and uncalled for in my opinion.

[Texasfrog]

I think that is the diff. between you other horns fans and I. I am not content with winning 9-10 games a season if we can't win the big ones.... I don't like a girl who teases and I certainly don't like a football team who teases.... especially when... if we had a better coach... we would have at least one more national championship.

Sorry to bust your bubble.. but no matter who the coach is at Texas. They aint going to win the National Title every year.

The difference between me and you. I know that and you apparently dont.

I guess all those blind fans at Penn St and Florida St are totally insane because they support two coaches that have only won 2 National Titles each in like freaking 70 years of coaching. They must suck huh ??? Just so happens that they both have won more freaking college games then anyone also.

As much as I support Texas... I'm under no misguided belief that they will win or even play for the National Title every year. It's called "REALITY" and you may want to come breath the air in it sometime.

[wide-e-wide]

I am bustin' your raggedy *** left and right with facts.
How the hell am I being narrow-minded?

Because you are wrong...and we are proving it...?

I don't need anybody's help to prove that you are an idiot.
Hell you don't even need anybody's help. You are doing
an outstanding job of it by yourself.

Look at the numbers bro......that's all I ask. Wins mean everything...and Mack has more over the last 10 years than any other coach. What does that tell you?

[jtk1519]

So, we can't state our case without being compared to nazis? Objectivity and understanding are truly dead, but this thread is still too f'n funny. This has to be moved to the classics.

Win a NC... now you're a worse coach than before.
Defend said coach... you're a nazi.

I keep expecting to see Texags.com at the top of the page.:D

[slorch]

I haven't seen any posts ordaining Mack or claiming him as a "second coming".

From where I'm sitting, I think Texas fans are naturally excited about what just happened this season and are celebrating it. Brown deserves the credit he's getting right now in my opinion.

Prior to this season, he took a lot of crap for Oklahoma and not winning the big game. Players ultimately win or lose games, and Texas finally had a team this year strong enough all-around to win a national championship. The last time the Horns were in as strong of a position as they were this year was 2001, and I'm sure Mack didn't tell Simms to throw five interceptions against Colorado.

Getting in position for the big game haue and undue critisism prior to this season in my opinion. I think people focusn't been easy, and I don't think most Texas fans discount that. Mack took both due and undue critisism on the big game results and think the hardcore critics lost sight of the fact he was/is the best coach UT has had since DKR was on campus.

The Nazi reference is over the top and uncalled for in my opinion.
write an opinion against the horns and see what it gets you

[biki1121]

I have never in my life seen people gripe about a coach just days after winning a national championship. I say move this thread to classics because it is loaded with aggyesque comedy gold. I haven't laughed this hard since Hebie picked aggy to win the Big XII.


Well, I'm not griping. I think Mack is good coach. Search my posts and you will find where I have said the Horns were a great team this year and Mack was a good coach. But by the same token he has had some letdowns over the years as well, as all coaches do. But is Mack ready for the coaching Hall of Fame???? Well not quite but to listen to some Horn fans he is the greatest of all time. The funny thing about some Horn fans is that they love to poke and make fun of you until you provide a stat, fact, or article that they don't like. Then they usually launch into personal attacks or call you a "stupid aggy" whether you are an A&M alum or not. Matter of fact JTK, I believe you have replied to my posts with, "must be stupid" and "only a fool" despite me supplying stats and data, I'm neither stupid nor a fool. Granted, Slorch has egged this topic on but I have to scratch my head as to why you think this the appropriate time to take a few shots at A&M when your primary rival in this post is a Tech fan?

To those particular Horn fans, please come to grips with the fact that fans of Universities other than Texas actually read and post on this message board. At times they will chose to post rationally, post irrationally, or just "get you stirred up". Your day will pass much easier if you realize this and stop being so darn sensitive. Enjoy the title, the Longhorns earned it this year!

Oh and by the way, if have never seen a head coach get "griped about" after winning a NC, you really need to read more College message boards. It happens year in and year out. I seem to remember Hornfans website having all those topics tearing down Stoops after his NC and just last year there were several on Pete Carroll being "less than stellar" on the same site.

Ya'll be safe tonight. The State of Texas lost a great drag racer today at the MLK race in Houston. Throw up a prayer tonight and remember his family. Goodnight all!

[jtk1519]

write an opinion against the horns and see what it gets you

A reality check.

[wide-e-wide]

A reality check.


And that my friends...is why jtk is a HOF'r...and you ain't.
to the classics.

[slorch]

I am bustin' your raggedy *** left and right with facts.
How the hell am I being narrow-minded?

Because you are wrong...and we are proving it...?

I don't need anybody's help to prove that you are an idiot.
Hell you don't even need anybody's help. You are doing
an outstanding job of it by yourself.

Look at the numbers bro......that's all I ask. Wins mean everything...and Mack has more over the last 10 years than any other coach. What does that tell you?
The best talent from the best high school football in the country every year since he's been at UT. there is no debate
what he's done with it is VERY debatable...

So everything before this year goes away? that's all i'm asking. if that's the way it is, i'm cool with that.

in the last hour evidently the alcohol has kicked in because everybody is getting even more defensive, It's hillarious

I started the thread this morning, because I thought THIS would happen.

i really don't give a damn other than the fact that i will be bored until August when football cranks up again. hopefully we will have more fun threads on here.

[jtk1519]

Granted, Slorch has egged this topic on but I have to scratch my head as to why you think this the appropriate time to take a few shots at A&M when your primary rival in this post is a Tech fan?

I have no rival in this thread. What we have in this thread is the futile rhetoric of one grotesquely jealous sand aggy slowly being drowned out by a burnt orange wave of truth. Though, to be fair to the sand aggy in question, he has brought a new spin to the same old tired argument. I don't recall ever being compared to a nazi before. This is a first.

[wide-e-wide]

Alcohol?...I'm drinking Dr. Pepper.
You're the one that sounds drunk.

All of what is forgotten?...
Losing to OU...?

Move on bro...you are really reaching.

More wins than any other coach in NCAA...still haven't responded to that.

[slorch]

should have the most wins, has the best talent, facilities, ect

[dragonfootballfan]

I guess a coach is not supposed to win or recruit good players. I mean that is all that Mack Brown has done since coming to Texas.

In the history of the BCS, no team has won multiple BCS titles. I guess that means that none of the coaches are good.

[Texasfrog]

The best talent from the best high school football in the country every year since he's been at UT. there is no debate
what he's done with it is VERY debatable...

So everything before this year goes away? that's all i'm asking. if that's the way it is, i'm cool with that.

in the last hour evidently the alcohol has kicked in because everybody is getting even more defensive, It's hillarious

I started the thread this morning, because I thought THIS would happen.

i really don't give a damn other than the fact that i will be bored until August when football cranks up again. hopefully we will have more fun threads on here.

Mack Brown hasnt gottent the "BEST" recruits every year out of Texas since his been there. UT is still losing top flight talent each year to other Texas schools and alot of out-of-State schools.

So dont sit there and claim that UT is getting the best of the best every year from Texas. We get are fair share but no way does Texas get all the "BEST" out of Texas each year.

That ole school North of the border has taken its fair share of "5-Star" football players from Texas almost every year.

[Texasfrog]

I guess a coach is not supposed to win or recruit good players. I mean that is all that Mack Brown has done since coming to Texas.

In the history of the BCS, no team has won multiple BCS titles. I guess that means that none of the coaches are good.

Ya.. I figure all the coaches suck now because nobody is playing for the National Title every year. I mean no one is even playing for the National Title every other year. So, all the coaches arent any good I guess.

We'll just have to support a (Texas) Program, Coach, Team and ect that wins at least 10 games each year , plays top #10 caliber football and makes a run for the National Title every 3 to 4 years I guess. Damn we suck !!:D

[jtk1519]

Mack does have the best talent around. Just look at Texas' depth chart this year...

QB - Vince Young
RB - Reggie Bush
WR - Santonio Holmes
WR - Mike Hass
WR - Jeff Samardzija
TE - Vernon Davis
OT - D'Brickashaw Ferguson
OT - Eric Winston
OG - Max Jean-Gilles
OG - Taitusi Lutui
C - Nick Mangold

DE - Elvis Dumerville
DE - Mario Williams
DT - Haloti Ngata
DT - Brodrick Bunkley
OLB - AJ Hawk
OLB - Paul Posluszny
MLB - D'Qwell Jackson
CB - Jimmy Williams
CB - Antonio Cromartie
S - Michael Huff
S - LaRon Landry

It still amazes me to think that Mack was able to get all that talent on the field. And then to think that he has guys like Matt Leinart, Brady Quinn, Winston Justice, DeAngelo Williams, Chad Greenway, etc. all on the bench. Simply amazing.

[slorch]

the talent in Fla goes around for 3 major schools and then some.

I don't care what the rivals people rank recruits either. Texas gets the best, we get the leftovers.

You keep making my point. Some even want to get personal. Wide you talk pretty big behind that screen- it doesn't matter to me. You keep reinforcing my point- question UT, be persecuted. Guess what, I'm not seeking your approval. You helped make my point ya big lug!!!

All heil Mack!!!

[wide-e-wide]

I talk pretty big everywhere...not just behind a screen.
There are a few guys on here that know me personally...ask them if I need to hide behind a computer.

[dragonfootballfan]

I don't care what the rivals people rank recruits either. Texas gets the best, we get the leftovers.


so Texas gets the best talent for what other reason then because you said so? Not every player that Texas offers chooses to go to Texas. If that were the case, I would agree with you

[jtk1519]

the talent in Fla goes around for 3 major schools and then some.

I'm sure that has something to do with how much Mack sucks, but my nazi mentality must be blocking it out.

[slorch]

Mack does have the best talent around. Just look at Texas' depth chart this year...

QB - Vince Young
RB - Reggie Bush
WR - Santonio Holmes
WR - Mike Hass
WR - Jeff Samardzija
TE - Vernon Davis
OT - D'Brickashaw Ferguson
OT - Eric Winston
OG - Max Jean-Gilles
OG - Taitusi Lutui
C - Nick Mangold

DE - Elvis Dumerville
DE - Mario Williams
DT - Haloti Ngata
DT - Brodrick Bunkley
OLB - AJ Hawk
OLB - Paul Posluszny
MLB - D'Qwell Jackson
CB - Jimmy Williams
CB - Antonio Cromartie
S - Michael Huff
S - LaRon Landry

It still amazes me to think that Mack was able to get all that talent on the field. And then to think that he has guys like Matt Leinart, Brady Quinn, Winston Justice, DeAngelo Williams, Chad Greenway, etc. all on the bench. Simply amazing.
point made, so now Texas just has average talent?(ROTFLMAO)

[dragonfootballfan]

question UT, be persecuted. Guess what, I'm not seeking your approval. You helped make my point ya big lug!!!


Questioning Texas or Mack after a national championship win is not the smartest thing to do.

[jtk1519]

point made, so now Texas just has average talent?(ROTFLMAO)

You tell us since you seem to know more than Rivals, Scout, Tom Lemming, etc. I bet you could wipe the floor with Mel Kiper.

[Texasfrog]

the talent in Fla goes around for 3 major schools and then some.

I don't care what the rivals people rank recruits either. Texas gets the best, we get the leftovers.

You keep making my point. Some even want to get personal. Wide you talk pretty big behind that screen- it doesn't matter to me. You keep reinforcing my point- question UT, be persecuted. Guess what, I'm not seeking your approval. You helped make my point ya big lug!!!

All heil Mack!!!

Ya your right slurpy. That's why I can look at the NFL, CFL and Arena football and see that all those football players getting "Paid to Play" are from the Univ-Texas.

There isnt one Texas High school players from another "major college" playing Pro football. They all played at UT..

[Texasfrog]

the talent in Fla goes around for 3 major schools and then some.

I don't care what the rivals people rank recruits either. Texas gets the best, we get the leftovers.

You keep making my point. Some even want to get personal. Wide you talk pretty big behind that screen- it doesn't matter to me. You keep reinforcing my point- question UT, be persecuted. Guess what, I'm not seeking your approval. You helped make my point ya big lug!!!

All heil Mack!!!

Ya your right slurpy. That's why I can look at the NFL, CFL and Arena football and see that all those Texas High school football players getting "Paid to Play" are from the Univ-Texas.

There isnt one Texas High school players from another "major college" playing Pro football. They all played at UT..

[slorch]

You tell us since you seem to know more than Rivals, Scout, Tom Lemming, etc. I bet you could wipe the floor with Mel Kiper.
now you really ARE on shaky ground.

c'mon you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. texas gets the players, don't even start saying how well he develops players.

[SeguinMatadors]

Sorry to bust your bubble.. but no matter who the coach is at Texas. They aint going to win the National Title every year.

The difference between me and you. I know that and you apparently dont.

I guess all those blind fans at Penn St and Florida St are totally insane because they support two coaches that have only won 2 National Titles each in like freaking 70 years of coaching. They must suck huh ??? Just so happens that they both have won more freaking college games then anyone also.

As much as I support Texas... I'm under no misguided belief that they will win or even play for the National Title every year. It's called "REALITY" and you may want to come breath the air in it sometime.

I do not think we can win the national championship every year. I do think we should have won it in 01' and should have played for it last year. I do not expect coach to win it when he can't... I do, however, expect him to win it when he can. His record vs. the top 10 and top 5 speaks for itself. He is a poor big game coach.

[Texasfrog]

point made, so now Texas just has average talent?(ROTFLMAO)

I almost hate to tell Slurpy all the Texans that have played for Miami, Florida St and Oklahoma over the last 10 years that are now playing in the NFL.

I dont know how Mack Brown let all those stud football players leave Texas.

[jtk1519]

Dude, you're my new hero. I used to think only wide was capable of coming up with this kind of comedy. Wait a second... Are you wide is disguise? Were you at any time a Baylor fan? :D

[jtk1519]

I almost hate to tell Slurpy all the Texans that have played for Miami, Florida St and Oklahoma over the last 10 years that are now playing in the NFL.

I dont know how Mack Brown let all those stud football players leave Texas.

Don't do it. You'll crush his little spirits.:D

[wide-e-wide]

Dude, you're my new hero. I used to think only wide was capable of coming up with this kind of comedy. Wait a second... Are you wide is disguise? Were you at any time a Baylor fan? :D


Nope...it's not me this time.
And no I was never a freakin' bear hugging Baylor fan...Good Lord what is the world coming to? Wideman...and Baylor in the same sentence...I suddenly feel dirty.

[slorch]

Once and for all, the whole point was if you said anything about ole Mack, you would be hammered, mercilessly, not that Texas fans were Nazi's.
Now people through the evolution of this conversation are telling me mack doesn't get the best talent. I never said he got ALL of the recruits, but overall he gets his pick. You might get a Tommie Harris or Eric Winston that goes elsewhere, but Texas gets the recruits they want.

I enjoy a good discussion, and this one's been pretty good today. i'm gonna leave it to ya. maybe i need one more Red Raider on here, and things would be fair, at least IQ -wise.

Hope evrybody has a great Sunday and MLK day.:)

[Texasfrog]

I do not think we can win the national championship every year. I do think we should have won it in 01' and should have played for it last year. I do not expect coach to win it when he can't... I do, however, expect him to win it when he can. His record vs. the top 10 and top 5 speaks for itself. He is a poor big game coach.

Listen.. I was in Texas Stadium the day Chrissy Simms decided he would be a one man show and give the Big-12 Title to Colorado. I also saw Applewhite in basically 2 quarters bring Texas back to almost a win.

No doubt that the (Simms vs Applewhite) debate will always haunt Mack Brown because just about anyone and everyone could see that Applewhite was a better "College QB" and fit the Texas system alot better then Simms.

Could we of beaten the 2001 Miami team ??? Who knows..

Next.. there is alot more to a football team then the coach. You cant blame the coach for the losses all the time. The old saying, "coaches get to much credit when they win and to much blame when the lose" is very true.

If you look at Mack Brown record "overall" at Texas. He has done a Hell of job. We'll see how the next 5 years goes. Something tells me that UT, Mack Brown and the whole program is back and we'll see.

If Texas keeps the program up in the top echlon and can be in the National hunt once every 3 or 4 years. Then honestly , that's good enough for me.

There is about 110 other college football teams around the nation that can only wish they were in the same spot at the Texas program.

[slorch]

Listen.. I was in Texas Stadium the day Chrissy Simms decided he would be a one man show and give the Big-12 Title to Colorado. I also saw Applewhite in basically 2 quarters bring Texas back to almost a win.

No doubt that the (Simms vs Applewhite) debate will always haunt Mack Brown because just about anyone and everyone could see that Applewhite was a better "College QB" and fit the Texas system alot better then Simms.

Could we of beaten the 2001 Miami team ??? Who knows..

Next.. there is alot more to a football team then the coach. You cant blame the coach for the losses all the time. The old saying, "coaches get to much credit when they win and to much blame when the lose" is very true.

If you look at Mack Brown record "overall" at Texas. He has done a Hell of job. We'll see how the next 5 years goes. Something tells me that UT, Mack Brown and the whole program is back and we'll see.

If Texas keeps the program up in the top echlon and can be in the National hunt once every 3 or 4 years. Then honestly , that's good enough for me.

There is about 110 other college football teams around the nation that can only wish they were in the same spot at the Texas program.
for what it's worth your street cred just went up. No problem with somebody that supports their team, just call it like it is.:D

[wide-e-wide]

I'll call it like it is...I freakin' hate Chris Simms....and I hate Phil Simms...always have. I was one of the guys screaming at my TV to put Major in.

It's just one of those things bro...It happened...and if you are a Longhorns fan you want to forget it. It has been talked to death over the years. It's over and there is nothing anybody can do about it. I know I am sick of hearing about it. It brings back bad memories for me...I had to wear a freakin' OU cap and have my picture taken with it on.

[Texasfrog]

I do not think we can win the national championship every year. I do think we should have won it in 01' and should have played for it last year. I do not expect coach to win it when he can't... I do, however, expect him to win it when he can. His record vs. the top 10 and top 5 speaks for itself. He is a poor big game coach.

hahahaha.. you're the only man in America that can call the coach of the team that just won the National Title a "poor big game coach."

Damn dude this is funny. Coach Brown just help lead Texas to the National Title and win some pretty stout games along the way and you can say " He's a poor big game coach.":rolleyes:

[slorch]

I'll call it like it is...I freakin' hate Chris Simms....and I hate Phil Simms...always have. I was one of the guys screaming at my TV to put Major in.

It's just one of those things bro...It happened...and if you are a Longhorns fan you want to forget it. It has been talked to death over the years. It's over and there is nothing anybody can do about it. I know I am sick of hearing about it. It brings back bad memories for me...I had to wear a freakin' OU cap and have my picture taken with it on.

ok, you come across as a one way conversationalist... that said

My deepest sympathies and I MEAN it. I almost started crying. No way I could have a pic in an OU hat done on me.

Have a good evening...

[jtk1519]

The ultimate irony is that it that we keep hearing that with all the talent and recruits Texas has, they should be winning more national championships. The contradiction comes when you consider that it was one of Texas' biggest and most prized recruits, Chris Simms, who pretty much single-handedly cost Texas a chance to play for the NC in '01.

When Texas loses a chance for a NC in 2001 with it's best recruit, it's because Mack can't coach and the player gets little blame.

When Texas wins a NC in 2005 with it's best recruit, it's because of the player and Mack gets little credit.

Irony, thou hast been exposed.

[wide-e-wide]

ok, you come across as a one way conversationalist... that said

My deepest sympathies and I MEAN it. I almost started crying. No way I could have a pic in an OU hat done on me.

Have a good evening...


Hey... a bets a bet...I had to wear an OU jersey the next year...no pic of that though.
My drinking buddy in the Navy was from Tulsa...so we had some pretty big bets when they played.

[jtk1519]

I had to wear a freakin' OU cap and have my picture taken with it on.

You are now dead to me.

[slorch]

You are now dead to me.
see, after all of the pain of this thread, i am laughing BIG TIME!!!

Really, Wide, you should not have told a Red Raider this. And I think your Longhorn buddies have a word they want to share with you...(still laughing)

[wide-e-wide]

You are now dead to me.


I had to do it bro. I honor all bets....it's like this sickness I have or something.

I was so pissed at freakin' Simms...and I was heavily outnumbered at the time. That's the only way all those damn okies would shut up. I had no choice man.

If Texas would have won............I would have had free beer the rest of the night...and every inbred okie in the US Navy would have had to sing "The Eyes of Texas" with me.

I'd say it was a pretty solid bet.

F'n Simms..............I hate that dude.....I will never forgive him for that. Somewhere out there in the world..there is a picture of yours truly...with crimson and cream on my melon. :eek: :eek:

[slorch]

you know this a stone cold lock for Classics, due to the last 5 posts...

[wide-e-wide]

see, after all of the pain of this thread, i am laughing BIG TIME!!!

Really, Wide, you should not have told a Red Raider this. And I think your Longhorn buddies have a word they want to share with you...(still laughing)


I had to do it...it was a bet.
It's not like I went out and bought an OU cap and walked around with it on.
If you saw the pic....you would understand.
They are all holding it on my head...and I am trying my damndest to throw the "Hook 'em Horns" up...they were holding my arms down too...I was outnumbered and very drunk...........and very angry.

[jtk1519]

This thread went from hilarious to depressing in just a few posts. :(

I must now drink.

[slorch]

I had to wear a brett favre jersey to a District manager's meeting because I bet a buddy that moved here from Milwaukee that the cowboys would win 2 years ago. At least i like brett favre!!!, and nobody took pictures.

I'm starting a new thread... worst sportsbet losses ever. Maybe not...

[wide-e-wide]

I had to wear a brett favre jersey to a District manager's meeting because I bet a buddy that moved here from Milwaukee that the cowboys would win 2 years ago. At least i like brett favre!!!, and nobody took pictures.

I'm starting a new thread... worst sportsbet losses ever. Maybe not...


Oh.....I have quite a few. Won quite a few as well though.

[cove_2001]

Mike Leach can't win the big one....oh wait he won't ever get there. BOO HOO.

Instead of picking on Mack, why don't you start with your coach. All offense and no defense. Yeah that will win championships :rolleyes:

cove_2001

[slorch]

I had to do it...it was a bet.
It's not like I went out and bought an OU cap and walked around with it on.
If you saw the pic....you would understand.
They are all holding it on my head...and I am trying my damndest to throw the "Hook 'em Horns" up...they were holding my arms down too...I was outnumbered and very drunk...........and very angry.
that pic has to be worth some $$$$

[wide-e-wide]

that pic has to be worth some $$$$


I can only hope that it is buried under a moutain of Keystone Light cans somewhere in a trailer park outside of Broken Arrow,Ok.
If I could get my hands on it...It would be in a about 10 thousand pieces and then burned.

This was back in 1999...if it were to happen now...I'm sure it would have been put on the web. Thank God that didn't happen.

[mtbray]

I can't believe no one has brought this up yet.....


Doesn't Coach Leach have a thing for pirates? I've heard some crazy stories about that.

[slorch]

I can't believe no one has brought this up yet.....


Doesn't Coach Leach have a thing for pirates? I've heard some crazy stories about that.
I don't call him the "Mad Scientist" for no reason! He is definately different!
The man has a law degree from Pepperdine(great football program, huh)
I love his interviews- no pomp and circumstance, "just the facts"
Vince Young plays the game like he's in an X-box game. Leach calls the game like it's an x-box game. At halftime of the Texas game, he was asked what the Raiders needed to change to win the game. He says, "we could start by finding open receivers, running through the hole, making tackles, and we probably aren't gonna kick as much." Even though we were losing, I was rolling! The man hates kicking, and all it took was the blocked punt to shut that down.
I admit the first 2 years before he got "his" players in the system, these little dink, dink , dink possessions drove me insane!!! Now I feel we at least have a chance in every game. The OklaState game this year and the New Mexico game last year are games that we had no business losing. All my Longhorn buddies two years ago told me the raiders had no chance playing Cal and It was not as close as the score. We did not close out either half against 'bama and lost a 3 point game in the Cotton Bowl- very disappointing. I could not say it another way.
we will never have the program UT has- been to lubbock lately( that's why I live in the Woodlands!) That's why we rely on the MacGuyver offense( bubble gum and duct tape) to compensate for the less talented players. A Taurean Henderson will emerge from time to time. A Brandon Slay will show up every once in a while. I think right now, there are 6 Red Raiders in the pros( Dylan Gandy OL, Montae Reagor DL, Wes Welker WR,Kevin Curtis DB,Kliff Kingsbury QB, and Zach Thomas LB) compared to 22 for the Longhorns. Not an absolute comparison, but still a good indicator of talent.
I will admit it took a couple of years for Leach to win me over, but you could say that for some Horns fans too with Mack! He is way different, but so is Lubbock and Tech, so it works.

[Texasfrog]

I don't call him the "Mad Scientist" for no reason! He is definately different!
The man has a law degree from Pepperdine(great football program, huh)
I love his interviews- no pomp and circumstance, "just the facts"
Vince Young plays the game like he's in an X-box game. Leach calls the game like it's an x-box game. At halftime of the Texas game, he was asked what the Raiders needed to change to win the game. He says, "we could start by finding open receivers, running through the hole, making tackles, and we probably aren't gonna kick as much." Even though we were losing, I was rolling! The man hates kicking, and all it took was the blocked punt to shut that down.
I admit the first 2 years before he got "his" players in the system, these little dink, dink , dink possessions drove me insane!!! Now I feel we at least have a chance in every game. The OklaState game this year and the New Mexico game last year are games that we had no business losing. All my Longhorn buddies two years ago told me the raiders had no chance playing Cal and It was not as close as the score. We did not close out either half against 'bama and lost a 3 point game in the Cotton Bowl- very disappointing. I could not say it another way.
we will never have the program UT has- been to lubbock lately( that's why I live in the Woodlands!) That's why we rely on the MacGuyver offense( bubble gum and duct tape) to compensate for the less talented players. A Taurean Henderson will emerge from time to time. A Brandon Slay will show up every once in a while. I think right now, there are 6 Red Raiders in the pros( Dylan Gandy OL, Montae Reagor DL, Wes Welker WR,Kevin Curtis DB,Kliff Kingsbury QB, and Zach Thomas LB) compared to 22 for the Longhorns. Not an absolute comparison, but still a good indicator of talent.
I will admit it took a couple of years for Leach to win me over, but you could say that for some Horns fans too with Mack! He is way different, but so is Lubbock and Tech, so it works.

I was at the Cotton Bowl this year with a really good friend that is a Tech alum. I was impressed with the amount of Tech fans. They filled up 65% of the stadium. I think the Bama fans were a like "Damn" there is a ton of Tx Tech fans here.

The problem was that Tech couldnt stop "Bama" from controlling the clock. "Bama" was able to run the ball almost at well and pound out 4 and 5 yards a pop. I think they "Bama" had 4 drives that last about 7 minutes each. That kills an offensive team like Tech. Plus, "Bama" converted dang near every 3rd Down in the game. It didnt matter if it was (3rd & 20) they would convert it.

Plus, Tech had no answer for "Bama" blitz defense. They were in Hodges face all day. I was surprised Leach didnt try to get Henderson a little more envolved in the game.

I agree with you on the fact that Tx Tech seems to always lose "one game" that they have no business losing (New Mexico, Ok St).

I did however think that Tx Tech was going to beat Cal last year in the Holiday Bowl. If you could go back a year on this site and read my post. You would see that I predicted Tx Tech to beat Cal for the very reason they beat them. Cal had no pass defense and had never seen a passing team like Tx Tech.

Overall I like Tx Tech. I've always thought Tech does more with less and kinda had that underdog overachiever mentality to the team. I always pull for Tech unless its UT they're playing.

PS. Texas Tech aint getting all "overacheiver" recruits anymore. Their actually pulling in some solid "blue-chips" and I think Leach has Texas Tech up to a level where they'll be playing top #25 caliber football most years and everynow and then they'll probably pull a top #15 team.

[slorch]

agreed, but if you do take the recruiting rankings seriously, the reason Tech is that high this year is because of the sheer numbers. they will sign 25 this year, but only 2 of those are even 4 stars on rivals. one is hewitt from lufkin who has to get healthy from his knee injury to contribute. the other is a JC OL that does look legit. We signed Robert Johnson 2 years ago as the JC player of the year as QB. then he plays 2 years at WR?

I do really wish the big 3 in the state would be able to capitalize upon the talent from Texas and be consistently top 15 teams.

[dragonfootballfan]

agreed, but if you do take the recruiting rankings seriously, the reason Tech is that high this year is because of the sheer numbers. they will sign 25 this year, but only 2 of those are even 4 stars on rivals. one is hewitt from lufkin who has to get healthy from his knee injury to contribute. the other is a JC OL that does look legit. We signed Robert Johnson 2 years ago as the JC player of the year as QB. then he plays 2 years at WR?

I do really wish the big 3 in the state would be able to capitalize upon the talent from Texas and be consistently top 15 teams.
Who says that Aggy is one of the big three. I like what Morriss is doing at Baylor, and they may pass them by in the state.

[slorch]

this thread must go to classic, due to the statements contained in here.

I do not know how to nominate it, though. help.

[wide-e-wide]

I know how.....but I ain't helping you.
I wish I had never opened my fat mouth and told you guys that.

[Texasfrog]

agreed, but if you do take the recruiting rankings seriously, the reason Tech is that high this year is because of the sheer numbers. they will sign 25 this year, but only 2 of those are even 4 stars on rivals. one is hewitt from lufkin who has to get healthy from his knee injury to contribute. the other is a JC OL that does look legit. We signed Robert Johnson 2 years ago as the JC player of the year as QB. then he plays 2 years at WR?

I do really wish the big 3 in the state would be able to capitalize upon the talent from Texas and be consistently top 15 teams.

QB-Graham Harrell was rated pretty high on most prep scouting boards. I think he's probably the highest rated QB Tx Tech has ever gotten.

There is some pretty solid defensive players over the last couple of years that Tx Tech has signed or has committed to them. Mckinner Dixon (Lufkin) had a very solid season as a true-freshman. I knew he was a stud after seeing him a few times in High school.

Tx Tech wont be able to compete with Texas or Oklahoma when it comes to pulling in many of the 5-Star and 4-star Texas high schoolers but Tx Tech is slowly pulling in some solid players.

Enough to keep them hanging around the National Top #25 in football most years.

[Slim-Rob]

Records 1996-2005

UT- 95-31
Tech- 74-47
A&M- 71-50

UT- 5 ten or more win seasons since 96 (11,11,10,11,13) 2001-2005
A&M- 1 ten or more win seasons since 96 (11) 1998
Tech- 0 ten or more win seasons since 96 (haha)

National Championships Since 1996
UT- 1
A&M-0
Tech- 0

[slorch]

Tech- only bowl eligible team every year in Big XII. (but is that something to brag about with 29 bowls?)