SLC to get 6-5A Sophomore of the Year

[StarmanDX]

LD Bell Wide Reciever Blake Cantu is moving to Southlake and will begin attending classes in mid February.

He plays Basketball for Bell also, and the students for Bell were chanting "Southblake Cantu" and "ONE MORE YEAR" during the game. After asking some parents what the deal was I was told by 5 or 6 of them that this was happening.

Anyone think he will start? He should be a worthy addition to the Dragons. Against us he didn't do much, but he did have some impressive catches and kick returns. I would say he was their best player.

This also really hurts Bell, seeing that he was their best returner and will have to compensate not only for his loss but other losses around their team as well.

[BAMF cowboy]

LD Bell Wide Reciever Blake Cantu is moving to Southlake and will begin attending classes in mid February.

He plays Basketball for Bell also, and the students for Bell were chanting "Southblake Cantu" and "ONE MORE YEAR" during the game. After asking some parents what the deal was I was told by 5 or 6 of them that this was happening.

Anyone think he will start? He should be a worthy addition to the Dragons. Against us he didn't do much, but he did have some impressive catches and kick returns. I would say he was their best player.

This also really hurts Bell, seeing that he was their best returner and will have to compensate not only for his loss but other losses around their team as well.

hmm, until we actually see it in print...it is still a rumor

although if you heard those chants first hand...that strikes me as interesting.

its a good time to come to carroll if you're a receiver, that position is wide up for grabs.

[farmerfan]

I guess playing for the school or town you grew up around doesn't mean anything anymore. I realize that the reputation that Southlake has will attract any kids, but why sell yourself out or give up on your lifelong friends and teammates all to move 10 miles and play for a winner? Maybe my thinking is wrong, but when I grew up and im not that old, it was all about playing for the school you knew you would be going to. We never had kids wanting to go from Marcus to Lewisville or vice versa. As harsh as this may sound, I hope a kid who has been in Southlake his whole life beats this kid out for a posistion and he is left watching from the sideline.

[PackAttack2005]

If he was the sophomore of the year in 2005 then he gets to sit out a year by UIL rule. The transfer cannot be for athletic reasons only. Was he not happy at Bell or did he want a little more spotlight on him at Southlake?

[farmerfan]

If he was the sophomore of the year in 2005 then he gets to sit out a year by UIL rule. The transfer cannot be for athletic reasons only. Was he not happy at Bell or did he want a little more spotlight on him at Southlake?

I dont think he will have to sit out. See Fentris this year. If they family is moving to Southlake and can prove it wasnt for athletic reasoning then he will be able to suit up next fall.

[dragonfootballfan]

I guess playing for the school or town you grew up around doesn't mean anything anymore. I realize that the reputation that Southlake has will attract any kids, but why sell yourself out or give up on your lifelong friends and teammates all to move 10 miles and play for a winner? Maybe my thinking is wrong, but when I grew up and im not that old, it was all about playing for the school you knew you would be going to. We never had kids wanting to go from Marcus to Lewisville or vice versa. As harsh as this may sound, I hope a kid who has been in Southlake his whole life beats this kid out for a posistion and he is left watching from the sideline.
Could it be that he does not want to move, but his family wants him to. Carroll has an excellent high school, only exemplary 5A in the state. Could this move be for academic reasons?

[drgnbkr]

Believe it or not, the vast majority of move-ins are work related or for reasons other than athletics..I'm sure its the same everywhere

[dragonsfan]

Believe it or not, the vast majority of move-ins are work related or for reasons other than athletics..I'm sure its the same everywhere
I agree. I have lived in northeast Tarrant County since 1968. I moved my family five miles up F.M. 1938 (better known as Davis Blvd) in '93 to get into a better ISD figuring the higher cost of housing was cheaper than private school. Chase Daniel's family did the same thing moving out of Irving in the late '90s. A huge number of SLC kids have moved here for the schools, and the athletics are just icing on the cake.

[Favpack]

It's my understanding Fentress had to sit out '04 because of his decision to transfer to SLC in '04 from LH. I don't see transferring during HS as being a positive for anyone. If the trend continues at SLC - the sophs who are decent, but not yet developed will either quit and go play soccer - or there will start to be dissension. Interestingly Coach Dodge praised McElroy for not transferring out because of lack of pt - yet he's getting one ore more stars transferring in each year because they want a ring.

Rest assured -- if this trend continues other area coaches will start raising heck to try to stop it.

[dragonfootballfan]

It's my understanding Fentress had to sit out '04 because of his decision to transfer to SLC in '04 from LH. I don't see transferring during HS as being a positive for anyone. If the trend continues at SLC - the sophs who are decent, but not yet developed will either quit and go play soccer - or there will start to be dissension. Interestingly Coach Dodge praised McElroy for not transferring out because of lack of pt - yet he's getting one ore more stars transferring in each year because they want a ring.

Rest assured -- if this trend continues other area coaches will start raising heck to try to stop it.
Fentriss did not have to sit out. He did not move for athletic reasons. Just like all of the other kids that move in.

[drgnbkr]

It's my understanding Fentress had to sit out '04 because of his decision to transfer to SLC in '04 from LH. I don't see transferring during HS as being a positive for anyone. If the trend continues at SLC - the sophs who are decent, but not yet developed will either quit and go play soccer - or there will start to be dissension. Interestingly Coach Dodge praised McElroy for not transferring out because of lack of pt - yet he's getting one ore more stars transferring in each year because they want a ring.

Rest assured -- if this trend continues other area coaches will start raising heck to try to stop it.

Fentress moved in the summer before his senior year..05..his parents told me they wanted to move several years before, but just could'nt...

[farmerfan]

Could it be that he does not want to move, but his family wants him to. Carroll has an excellent high school, only exemplary 5A in the state. Could this move be for academic reasons?


Going into his junior year in HS, most parents would be understanding and keep their kids with their friends if they wanted to stay. You can not convince me someone moving not even 10 miles is doing so for the so called "excellent" academics, if that was the case they would have had him in Carroll long before he started high school or they would send him to Nolan Catholic or FW Christian both very strong academic schools and both within a 10-15 drive from Bedford.

[farmerfan]

Fentriss did not have to sit out. He did not move for athletic reasons. Just like all of the other kids that move in.


you keep believing that.

[1footballnut]

From what I hear is his parent has moved into the Southlake district. He should be enrolling later this month. I think the academics are ok but he's not at the AP level. This doesn't help Bell's chances but coach Olivo will have his work cut out for him. The loss of Cantu,Mauro and English means that others will have to step up. Their quarterback will be a junior who has had some snaps last year and I think he completed 11 of 12 with 11 straight against South Grand Prairie and started against Trinity for a injured Joe Mauro. That's a tough task for a sophomore but from what I hear Holbert is hitting the weights working hard and getting ready for spring. Best of luck to Blake and his family SLC your getting a good young man and maybe just maybe Bell will get to play SLC next year.

[yankee]

this is great for the dragons. we desperately need a wr who has experience at the varsity level.

[Living Legend]

What are the stats for this kid...can anyone give me his height weight and 40 time?

[VB Pack Fan]

If things like this keep happening, there are going to start looking into it. If you want a better school for your kid ,why wait until HS. Sounds like under the table recuiting too me. But SLC has had there run, they won,t win it all next year, and I know whatever times he runs whne he get to SLC he will be in the 4.4 time bracket, or so the clocks will say....ummm:rolleyes:

[yankee]

If things like this keep happening, there are going to start looking into it. If you want a better school for your kid ,why wait until HS. Sounds like under the table recuiting too me. But SLC has had there run, they won,t win it all next year, and I know whatever times he runs whne he get to SLC he will be in the 4.4 time bracket, or so the clocks will say....ummm:rolleyes:
maybe he's struggled in high school..

[rancher52]

What are the stats for this kid...can anyone give me his height weight and 40 time?
I don't know about football but I noticed in paper this morning he scored 26 of Bell's 45 in last night's basketball game loss to Coppell.

[VB Pack Fan]

maybe he's struggled in high school..

Yeah right...............:D maybe he did.

[farmerfan]

maybe he's struggled in high school..


So would he not struggle more at Carroll since it is has strong academics?

[VB Pack Fan]

So would he not struggle more at Carroll since it is has strong academics?
Farmerfan you must be a mind reader, I was thinking the very same thing:eek: would he not have a harder time there."IT,S ALL ABOUT FOOTBALL"

[CCHS77]

Sounds like under the table recuiting too me.


Explain that comment, please.

[dragonfootballfan]

Farmerfan you must be a mind reader, I was thinking the very same thing:eek: would he not have a harder time there."IT,S ALL ABOUT FOOTBALL"
I am sure you know all the other reasons that somebody would want to move to Southlake and that none of those played any part in it.

[1footballnut]

I think it is all about football...There is some thinking out there to put their kids in a successful program and that will make them successful. But for Bell you need to concentrate on what you have not on what you don't TEAM that's the name of the game. Coach Olivo will concentrate on blocking,tackling,passing and running. I think Bell fans will be surprised with Bell's defense and I'm telling you Tate Holbert can play. Blake Canwho

[drgnbkr]

I moved here with my wife & 3 children 13 years ago...there were 7500 people in Southlake at the time..now there are 30,000+ I believe..ever last swingin one of em moved here for the sports..you can take it to the bank....we are what you call a regular "Sports Magnet"

[DragonBand06]

I moved here with my wife & 3 children 13 years ago...there were 7500 people in Southlake at the time..now there are 30,000+ I believe..ever last swingin one of em moved here for the sports..you can take it to the bank....we are what you call a regular "Sports Magnet"
I think he moved here for the band... but that's just me. :)

[DragonBand06]

I think he moved here for the band... but that's just me. :)
Whoops. I forgot, Bell's band is better than ours. Must be sports.:rolleyes:

[farmerfan]

I moved here with my wife & 3 children 13 years ago...there were 7500 people in Southlake at the time..now there are 30,000+ I believe..ever last swingin one of em moved here for the sports..you can take it to the bank....we are what you call a regular "Sports Magnet"


Finally a voice of reason :D

Let me clear some of my statements on this thread. I do not think Southlake recruits, I dont think they have to. I think kids see what Southlake has become and want to become apart of this program. The kid from Bell is a sophmore in HS and for all I know has probably gone to schools in Hurst his whole life, made friends from the day he started kindergarten. He is in a program that has been weak over the course of the last few years. He see's an opportunity to go to a winning program and his parents are all for it so he decides to enroll at Carroll senior high. If it is for the academics then great, if it is for the athletics great, it is just fishy that as a junior to be he decides to leave a school he has been at since he started HS. That is why I hope that a kid who has been in the program at Carroll High since his freshman year out peroforms him and gets a starting posistion over him. When you move up the road 10 miles it just seems hard to believe that it was for reasons other than athletic.
I dont think the Dragons need to recruit to remain the premiere program in Texas, I think with the community they have and the kids in the program they will be strong for years to come, I just hope that some kid who has sacrificed himself over the last few years doesnt lose a job to some kid who was tired of losing and decided he wanted to play at Carroll because they have great academics.

[SLC13]

I moved here with my wife & 3 children 13 years ago...there were 7500 people in Southlake at the time..now there are 30,000+ I believe..ever last swingin one of em moved here for the sports..you can take it to the bank....we are what you call a regular "Sports Magnet"
Drgnbkr, I can't speak for the people that are moving 10 miles up the road, but I think you're way off the mark on the folks moving to Southlake from out of state.

When I was transferred to this area with my family from Ohio, my first questions for the real estate agent were "what area has the highest rated schools and best housing values", NOT "where is the best football team". When we finally made our decision to move to Southlake, I can assure you that "HS Sports" was nowhere to be found on the pages of reasons why. Most of my neighbors that have moved in from out of state have had a similar experience and set of reasons. Very few if any people move their families thousands of miles so their kid can play on a better football team.......

[dragonfootballfan]

Drgnbkr, I can't speak for the people that are moving 10 miles up the road, but I think you're way off the mark on the folks moving to Southlake from out of state.

When I was transferred to this area with my family from Ohio, my first questions for the real estate agent were "what area has the highest rated schools and best housing values", NOT "where is the best football team". When we finally made our decision to move to Southlake, I can assure you that "HS Sports" was nowhere to be found on the pages of reasons why. Most of my neighbors that have moved in from out of state have had a similar experience and set of reasons. Very few if any people move their families thousands of miles so their kid can play on a better football team.......
drgnbkr was being sarcastic

[Drake]

i tell you what jcp, when you "know" something other than what some goombah ignoramus without a name tells you, speak up. give something besides innuendo and baseless lies. i never accused jesprep of anything, but am expecting some school along the lines of arlington grace prep to come along and push the envelop. some rich "sugardaddy" could easily fund it, and recruit the best 8th and 9th graders in dallas cty and the uil could only wring their hands and wonder what went wrong. you can be as high and mighty as you choose to be, and i hope both jesuits are worthy, but you are still the interlopers and are only in this discussion because "your" lawyers forced the issue and the uil blinked.Just a day or two ago this was posted on another thread about "private school recruiting" by a fan of a perennial public school powerhouse... I'm pasting it here in a thread about a stand-out player that is transferring to that same perennial public school powerhouse next season... Notice the hypocrisy between this and some of the replies by the same and similar posters on this thread...

Ever notice that its the fans of the very best teams that worry the most about private school recruiting? Maybe they are afraid to lose their grip on THAT too...

[drgnbkr]

drgnbkr was being sarcastic

Me? Sarcastic?.....:eek:

[1footballnut]

Being a Bell supporter for several years I have watched this young man play in Pee Wee's Junior High and High School he is very good. If moving 10 miles up the road is what's best for him then so be it. He will also have to battle someone that is already in the program and the young men that he has played with for years will have to find someone to replace him that's life and football

[slckia]

blake cantu is moving to southlake for sure in the early days of february sometime. he will most likely start and be the next leader of the most high powered passing attack in the nation. his reasons for moving are not athletic reasons but one of his parents has a job in or near southlake which will make it more convenient, he is just lucky to be going to a powerhouse like carroll. and im sure he has friends that he will miss but for future purposes carroll is the best place for a scholarship offer rather than bell. next year look out for the dragons that go by dodge, newton and cantu

[farmerfan]

blake cantu is moving to southlake for sure in the early days of february sometime. he will most likely start and be the next leader of the most high powered passing attack in the nation. his reasons for moving are not athletic reasons but one of his parents has a job in or near southlake which will make it more convenient, he is just lucky to be going to a powerhouse like carroll. and im sure he has friends that he will miss but for future purposes carroll is the best place for a scholarship offer rather than bell. next year look out for the dragons that go by dodge, newton and cantu


You contradict yourself with those two statements. Is it or is it not for athletic purposes?

[Drake]

blake cantu is moving to southlake for sure in the early days of february sometime. he will most likely start and be the next leader of the most high powered passing attack in the nation. his reasons for moving are not athletic reasons but one of his parents has a job in or near southlake which will make it more convenient, he is just lucky to be going to a powerhouse like carroll. and im sure he has friends that he will miss but for future purposes carroll is the best place for a scholarship offer rather than bell. next year look out for the dragons that go by dodge, newton and cantuI'm not sure I have anything against moving even if it was purely for athletic purposes. After all, high school is basically the proving grounds for those offered college scholarships in football. Why WOULDN'T a parent want the best opportunities in the area of athletics for their child if that is their best chance to get into a good college?

But since, like in this case, all a family has to do is move into the public attendance zone of the school they want to attend and CLAIM they did not move into the zone for athletic purposes to be eligible, isn't the rule saying you can't transfer for athletic purposes and the affidavit required of parents stating so nothing more than a subterfuge to protect coaches and administrators that damn well DO know why and how these families are coming to these decisions.

[SLC fan]

Just a day or two ago this was posted on another thread about "private school recruiting" by a fan of a perennial public school powerhouse... I'm pasting it here in a thread about a stand-out player that is transferring to that same perennial public school powerhouse next season... Notice the hypocrisy between this and some of the replies by the same and similar posters on this thread...

Ever notice that its the fans of the very best teams that worry the most about private school recruiting? Maybe they are afraid to lose their grip on THAT too...

There's a difference between recruiting and a family choosing to move to another city on their own (whether for athletic reasons or otherwise). I'm not sure why some are struggling to grasp that. Unless you have evidence that SLC is recruiting, I suggest you refrain from making allegations that are completely unfounded.

[drgnbkr]

You contradict yourself with those two statements. Is it or is it not for athletic purposes?

C'mon ffan...how is it for athletic purposes if the family is paying an average home price of $400,000 plus to live here? If every family that moves into any district is suspect..so be it, but to say they are moving in strictly for athletic purposes is just flat wrong

[drgnbkr]

There's a difference between recruiting and a family choosing to move to another city on their own (whether for athletic reasons or otherwise). I'm not sure why some are struggling to grasp that. Unless you have evidence that SLC is recruiting, I suggest you refrain from making allegations that are completely unfounded.

SLCFAN, you can tell he is a little defensive about recruiting as they (the privates) have no attendance zones and can play kids from anywhere, whereas the publics play with who lives in the area....it's hard to understand why a private would want to get into a recruiting discussion...?

[Drake]

There's a difference between recruiting and a family choosing to move to another city on their own (whether for athletic reasons or otherwise). I'm not sure why some are struggling to grasp that. Unless you have evidence that SLC is recruiting, I suggest you refrain from making allegations that are completely unfounded.I made a remark on another thread that recruiting could be very broadly or narrowly defined. In the broader sense I think it's probably true that MOST schools recruit to some extent. I have no proof that anyone does or doesn't recruit including the Jesuit school my son attends.

The point of the post you quoted me on was only to point out how ironic it is that the same people that are condemning private schools in one thread for something that MIGHT happen down the road, are defending the FACT that top-flight players are currently and have been moving to SLC and other top programs during in their 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, and sometimes 12th grade years, and have been for quite some time now...

[SLC fan]

I'm not sure I have anything against moving even if it was purely for athletic purposes. After all, high school is basically the proving grounds for those offered college scholarships in football. Why WOULDN'T a parent want the best opportunities in the area of athletics for their child if that is their best chance to get into a good college?

But since, like in this case, all a family has to do is move into the public attendance zone of the school they want to attend and CLAIM they did not move into the zone for athletic purposes to be eligible, isn't the rule saying you can't transfer for athletic purposes and the affidavit required of parents stating so nothing more than a subterfuge to protect coaches and administrators that damn well DO know why and how these families are coming to these decisions.

Is it a fact that the UIL mandates that any player who moves in for athletic reasons is ineligible? There seems to be confusion over this. And if there is such a rule, how exactly is it worded? What if athletics is only one of many reasons why a family transfers?

Secondly, we don't know why Cantu's family moved. We can speculate, but we don't know with any certainty.

Third, what would you have Carroll do even if they do believe that he transferred for reasons due to athletics? Tell the family that they don't believe them and prohibit their son from joining the football team?

[Drake]

Is it a fact that the UIL mandates that any player who moves in for athletic reasons is ineligible? There seems to be confusion over this. And if there is such a rule, how exactly is it worded? What if athletics is only one of many reasons why a family transfers?

Secondly, we don't know why Cantu's family moved. We can speculate, but we don't know with any certainty.

Third, what would you have Carroll do even if they do believe that he transferred for reasons due to athletics? Tell the family that they don't believe them and prohibit their son from joining the football team?Did you really read my post? I said I probably thought the family SHOULD be able to do what they think is best for their children and family, even if its based on athletic decisions.

I'm pretty sure that if an athlete changes attendance zones after enrolling in high school, they must have a notorized document signed by their former coach and by their parents stating they were NOT moving for athletic purposes. In other words, coaches and parents are policing themselves.

I'm wondering WHY this document is necessary if, once signed, it basically goes unchallenged? It seems to me, especially considering all the great athletes that just happen to end up the the zones of better programs, that this is just for appearances and the UIL doesn't do much to investigate or enforce their own rules...

[drgnbkr]

I made a remark on another thread that recruiting could be very broadly or narrowly defined. In the broader sense I think it's probably true that MOST schools recruit to some extent. I have no proof that anyone does or doesn't recruit including the Jesuit school my son attends.

The point of the post you quoted me on was only to point out how ironic it is that the same people that are condemning private schools in one thread for something that MIGHT happen down the road, are defending the FACT that top-flight players are currently and have been moving to SLC and other top programs during in their 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, and sometimes 12th grade years, and have been for quite some time now...

I'm really struggling to understand your point...families have been making the decision on where to relocate for years based upon a lot of factors with quality of schools/education being at, or near the top of the list....I moved here to Southlake in 92 because I loved the area and it offered great quality schools for my family. My daughter was a varsity soccer player, my middle son played on the back to back State Champ Hockey team and my young son plays middle school sports...we did'nt move here for the athletics, but I'm thankful for the oppotunities my kids have had by virtue of living here....(95% of the kids go on to college)..glad I made the decision I did, as I'm sure are thousands of others in districts across the state....

[Drake]

I'm really struggling to understand your point...families have been making the decision on where to relocate for years based upon a lot of factors with quality of schools/education being at, or near the top of the list....I moved here to Southlake in 92 because I loved the area and it offered great quality schools for my family. My daughter was a varsity soccer player, my middle son played on the back to back State Champ Hockey team and my young son plays middle school sports...we did'nt move here for the athletics, but I'm thankful for the oppotunities my kids have had by virtue of living here....(95% of the kids go on to college)..glad I made the decision I did, as I'm sure are thousands of others in districts across the state....Okay, we're even :D

[slckia]

You contradict yourself with those two statements. Is it or is it not for athletic purposes?
it is not for athletic purposes it just so happens that his parents area of work is in the same area that carroll is and that he is going to be going there.

[SLC fan]

I made a remark on another thread that recruiting could be very broadly or narrowly defined. In the broader sense I think it's probably true that MOST schools recruit to some extent. I have no proof that anyone does or doesn't recruit including the Jesuit school my son attends.

The point of the post you quoted me on was only to point out how ironic it is that the same people that are condemning private schools in one thread for something that MIGHT happen down the road, are defending the FACT that top-flight players are currently and have been moving to SLC and other top programs during in their 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, and sometimes 12th grade years, and have been for quite some time now...

In response to your first point, I wouldn't doubt that there have been some instances in which schools have recruited and gotten away with it, but I'm not going to accuse any specific school of such violations unless there are strong indications that it's true. The fact that good players transfer to strong programs from time to time isn't surprising, and is hardly evidence of recruiting by itself. Let's face it, people like to play for winners (and have their sons play for winners).

I don't agree with your view that most schools recruit, although I guess I'd need to know exactly what you mean by "to some extent."

As for your second point, I certainly agree that Jesuit and other private schools shouldn't be accused of wrongdoing if there's nothing to base it on, although I can understand the concern over the *potential* of recruiting at private schools.

[Drake]

I don't agree with your view that most schools recruit, although I guess I'd need to know exactly what you mean by "to some extent."This is what I posted in another thread and sort of what i meant:

What is recruiting? What’s cool and what’s not? I’m assuming you’d say a coach directly contacting a player or player’s guardians about the idea of going to his school would be, but what else? How about a coach visiting youth leagues and having summer camps for area players? How about a conscious effort by districts to draw players by spending district money to maintain top-notch facilities, hire the best coaches, etc.? Would anyone argue with my assumption that in the last ten years many more quality football players have moved INTO the Katy, SLC, La Marque, North Shore, or Woodlands (to name a few) attendance zones than have moved away? Legit or not, SOMETHING is recruiting them to those schools.

[vikesparent]

just my opinion, what kind of kid can just leave his friends that he has had and move to an athletically gifted school just becasue he doesnt like losing?i saw him play nimitz he didnt look that great i dont see how he can start on a team like carroll this kid seems like a heartless person that puts football number 1. i have no respect for him or his desicion, i hope he gets beat out and stuck on the sideline because this happend to some of our players at nimitz. it disgusts me.

[Drake]

See, its easy to change posts...

[Cobras03]

:mad: Wow! I'm so surprised that people make it their business as to what other people are doing. But, if you must know...I am a single Mom, I have raised my son Blake by myself since he was 2. So, it's just the two of us and I am a realtor and I work in Southlake....that is where the business is. Again, if it's any of your business, since my son has his driver's license I would like to be in the same air space and near my son so I can attend his activities in between showings etc....
Viking......you obviously do not know my son as he is a very considerate, loving and caring person that has lots of friends and will remain in contact with his friends no matter what.
Again, if it's any of your business, I was not recruited. I moved to a very affordable part of Grapevine that just happens to be in the SLC school district, close to my office and where I do most of my business.
Thanks again for all your concern and if you need to call names and be ugly, please direct it toward me, not my son or any coaches that have nothing to do with my move.

[Cobras03]

just my opinion, what kind of kid can just leave his friends that he has had and move to an athletically gifted school just becasue he doesnt like losing?i saw him play nimitz he didnt look that great i dont see how he can start on a team like carroll this kid seems like a heartless person that puts football number 1. i have no respect for him or his desicion, i hope he gets beat out and stuck on the sideline because this happend to some of our players at nimitz. it disgusts me.



"You obviously don't know much"

[drgnbkr]

just my opinion, what kind of kid can just leave his friends that he has had and move to an athletically gifted school just becasue he doesnt like losing?i saw him play nimitz he didnt look that great i dont see how he can start on a team like carroll this kid seems like a heartless person that puts football number 1. i have no respect for him or his desicion, i hope he gets beat out and stuck on the sideline because this happend to some of our players at nimitz. it disgusts me.

Wow...Would you rather the kid live seperately from his parents? I guess you know better though...:confused:

[drgnbkr]

"You obviously don't know much"

can2mom..welcome to the board..this is the kind of hate & envy that success brings..there are a lot of great people on this board, who display a lot more class than this guy...most of us show respect for others, whether we are on top, in the middle, or the bottom....its only a small group of bitter, angry souls who would talk this way..

[Drake]

Can2mom... I didn't start this thread. But neither did an SLC supporter so I'm sure you can at least appreciate that it must be a sore subject with some and a genesis for innuendo when an athlete as talented (by all accounts) as your son changes school mid-career.

I have no doubt your reasons were legitimate and have tried to express here in previous posts that your reasons, whatever they may be, can ONLY be legitimate because YOU are the parent of that athlete and what you think is best can't be disputed. To further that, what you think is best for your son should be available to you and any other parent in this state regardless of the reason. If you were to determine that SLC was best for your son because of football, WHO has the right to tell you no, that your kid can't get the same football opportunities as others in the Southlake enjoy?

I suspected that you or your son might be reading this thread. I think it’s a shame that someone, especially another parent, would take a personal swipe at your boy… As a parent of a teenage boy myself, it really hit home how that must have made you feel. I’m sorry you had to read that.

[SLC fan]

This is what I posted in another thread and sort of what i meant:

What is recruiting? What’s cool and what’s not? I’m assuming you’d say a coach directly contacting a player or player’s guardians about the idea of going to his school would be, but what else? How about a coach visiting youth leagues and having summer camps for area players? How about a conscious effort by districts to draw players by spending district money to maintain top-notch facilities, hire the best coaches, etc.? Would anyone argue with my assumption that in the last ten years many more quality football players have moved INTO the Katy, SLC, La Marque, North Shore, or Woodlands (to name a few) attendance zones than have moved away? Legit or not, SOMETHING is recruiting them to those schools.

Not to get into semantics, but I'd use the word "drawing" or "attracting" rather than "recruiting." Especially in the case of facilities. I certainly see nothing about any of those things that should be banned by the UIL, and in many cases I think attracting good players is at most a secondary motive. But even if it's the primary motive, I still have no problem with it as long as nothing improper occurs (and by "improper" I'd probably use the UIL's definition of recruiting).

[Drake]

can2mom..welcome to the board..this is the kind of hate & envy that success brings..there are a lot of great people on this board, who display a lot more class than this guy...most of us show respect for others, whether we are on top, in the middle, or the bottom....its only a small group of bitter, angry souls who would talk this way..I took exception to the post you refer to as well... I'm sure the viking person regrets what he/she said, especially since they didn't realize the family might be watching... But it probably had nothing to do with SLC or its success. In fact, they said they were biased because they've seen good athletes taken from Nimitz for one reason or another... I'd suggest we give this person the benefit of the doubt and not make such hasty decisions about the state of their soul and life based on one thoughtless paragraph...

[Cobras03]

can2mom..welcome to the board..this is the kind of hate & envy that success brings..there are a lot of great people on this board, who display a lot more class than this guy...most of us show respect for others, whether we are on top, in the middle, or the bottom....its only a small group of bitter, angry souls who would talk this way..


I appreciate it. This move has not been easy for myself or my son, it's very hard for him. He had no choice because I wanted him to be near me because he is a TEENAGER, and like most teenagers, they need to be supervised and it was getting harder and harder for me to keep up with him while I was over here working.

[PonyExpress81]

The UIL needs to butt out of transfers period, If a parent wants their kid in a better School or football program and they can afford to make the move let them do it (Private or Public). Todd Dodge's parents moved from the Beaumont area to the Tyler area at the start of his senior year and Todd had to be legally adopted just to remain at his original HS to avoid missing his senior year of eligibilty. The UIL is a great tool for organization but has no business getting involved with families changing school districts for any reason.

[Cobras03]

Going into his junior year in HS, most parents would be understanding and keep their kids with their friends if they wanted to stay. You can not convince me someone moving not even 10 miles is doing so for the so called "excellent" academics, if that was the case they would have had him in Carroll long before he started high school or they would send him to Nolan Catholic or FW Christian both very strong academic schools and both within a 10-15 drive from Bedford.


You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Drake]

Not to get into semantics, but I'd use the word "drawing" or "attracting" rather than "recruiting." Especially in the case of facilities. I certainly see nothing about any of those things that should be banned by the UIL, and in many cases I think attracting good players is at most a secondary motive. But even if it's the primary motive, I still have no problem with it as long as nothing improper occurs (and by "improper" I'd probably use the UIL's definition of recruiting).You take a common sense approach which is usually best.

I never meant to suggest the UIL should limit facilities. Heck, in the end what SLC is doing in their program will force other schools to do the same thing to compete. It can only improve Texas football for our participants.

I just feel that those that vehemently oppose the Jesuit's being in UIL aren't viewing the private school situation with common sense and have their (horse) blinders on when it comes to considering how their own programs have gotten to where they have...

[Drake]

The UIL needs to butt out of transfers period, If a parent wants their kid in a better School or football program and they can afford to make the move let them do it (Private or Public). Todd Dodge's parents moved from the Beaumont area to the Tyler area at the start of his senior year and Todd had to be legally adopted just to remain at his original HS to avoid missing his senior year of eligibilty. The UIL is a great tool for organization but has no business getting involved with families changing school districts for any reason.I agree totally. I believe their presumed authority in this area is unconstitutional. Forcing a student to attend a certain school according to residence and then enforcing a rule that limits that students participation because he/she lived somewhere else previously seems like a denial of equal opportunity... Maybe that's why the UIL doesn't actively investigate it when it occurs...

[bellhs08]

for anyone to judge blake and him moving to carroll is unacceptable. since when is the personal life of a 16 year old sophmore everyones business? viking-for you to make any aqssumptions of blake is not only immature but is beyond me why you would even make a post like your previous one. i am going to remain annonymous but i know blake personally and for you to say that he is a heartless person is just down right BS. this message board is not meant to harass and judge the athlete the way you have. and you are entitled to your opinions but saying that you hope he gets beat out and is on the sideline, and you also say he has no heart? what kind of person can say that and still think they have a good heart? blake cantu is one of the nicest people i know. he has a good heart he loves and cares about his family, his friends and sports. Blake cantu, ld bell loves you even though you have people that have tremendous disrespect for you.

[DragonWatcher]

just my opinion, what kind of kid can just leave his friends that he has had and move to an athletically gifted school just becasue he doesnt like losing?i saw him play nimitz he didnt look that great i dont see how he can start on a team like carroll this kid seems like a heartless person that puts football number 1. i have no respect for him or his desicion, i hope he gets beat out and stuck on the sideline because this happend to some of our players at nimitz. it disgusts me.


It still surprises me to this day and age that society would let an idiot like this actually reproduce and create an offspring. This is a families personal life, all of you idiots on the board have no room to be debating about what is "right" in your mind.

[drgnbkr]

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Mom, most of us talk from afar about these kind of subjects, seldom dealing with the person involved..Farmerfan is one of the most knowledgeable, objective posters around, and I'm sure he does'nt know your situation..he is speaking in generalities....my bet is that he will be back on to clarify his point..

[can2friend]

hello all,
i am a good friend of blake and his family. they are the sweetest people i know. all of us at bell are going to miss him, but we are also happy for him. no he didn't move for athletic reasons, but we're glad that he will have the opportunity to become an even better football player than he is now. i bet if his mom's job ended up being in coppell, or some place who's football isn't as great, then you wouldn't be criticizing him and his family. it just so happens that it is in a great location with a good school. i love that family so much and i will miss them dearly.

-- off topic of blake, i don't get why transferring for athletics is any different than transferring for academics. both are to improve a child's opportunity to get into a good college and become more successful in his or her field of choice. if i had a kid with such a great talent, then i would do anything to make his or her talent grow even more. i would just want him or her to be successful in life and be the best he/she can be.