Toughest Pre-Season Test [Archive] - 5A Texas Football Forum

btownfever

07-21-2009, 03:23 AM

Since it is way too early to be talking state championship games lets be more realistic....
What pre-season match-up(s) is your team most looking forward to and are going to prepare the kids best for district?

My team being Cedar Hill we open up first game against rivals DeSoto on ESPN and our 3rd game vs. Trinity. DeSoto will be tough just because they are our most heated rivalry and their talented beyond belief! The boys are gonna have to be on their toes right out of the gate. I am looking even more anxiously at the Trinity game for two reasons; 1) While Trinity will be "down" based upon their graduates...they are still TRINITY and I wonder how "down" they'll be? 2) By playing DeSoto first game we should have the 'deer in the headlights' phase over and be somewhat battle tested for Trinity, if we don't play up to our level against Trinity then that worries me for district...

How about your team? any must sees?

ktCarl

07-21-2009, 06:05 AM

I don't know what the team and coaches are excited about but for Katy fans it will probably be the first game vs North Shore.

wolfpack4life

07-21-2009, 06:09 AM

Most people would say allen is our toughest..but im going to go with lufkin at abe...its always hard to leave there with a w

ALLENFANDINGO5

07-21-2009, 07:19 AM

I just hope we survive Longview. They could probably make a good run in 5A. So to open up with a team that is talented, at home, and has revenge on their side, makes for a worthy opponent.

cane19

07-21-2009, 07:32 AM

Hightower's only pre-season game is Ike. That will probably be their toughest game until the playoffs.

E-Vol-ution

07-21-2009, 07:43 AM

The game against Skyline is a barometer for both Arlington Bowie and Skyline. We look forward to it.........

twolf5

07-21-2009, 07:45 AM

Cedar Park has a pretty tough schedule, but I don't think it matches Cedar Hill. We play:

Game 1 Westlake, always a state power
Game 2 Lache Seastrunk, oh I mean Temple. :notworthy
Game 3 Lake Travis, two time 4A state champs and 32-0 last two seasons or something rediculous like that. :notworthy

Yes, that will prepare us for district I think.

wolfpack4life

07-21-2009, 08:13 AM

wesaxman34

07-21-2009, 08:19 AM

Trinity Trojan Fan For Li

07-21-2009, 08:23 AM

Our pre-season doesn't get any tougher than this...

Bingham - Sept. 7th (Cowboys Stadium)
Cedar Hill - Sept. 12th (Pennington Field)
Allen - Sept. 18th (Pennington Field)

We are technically "home" for all 3 games, but I think a lot of Trojan fans will be thankful if we even go 2-1.
Trinity has a monstrous preseason.
Three games in 12 days against formidable opponents - Bingham, Cedar Hill, and Allen. Our Trojans are going to have to grow up fast and gel on both offense and defense.
Bingham - lost to Alta in the state championship.
Cedar Hill - made to to the Quarterfinals
Allen - 5A Div I State Champions

DragonFan0316

07-21-2009, 08:24 AM

Our test is going to be North Shore. Plano West, Arlington, Houston Bellaire and Mesquite are no push overs either.:eek:

NHB06

07-21-2009, 08:53 AM

Toughest pre-season test for Plano will be Desoto.

cyfallsbooster2

07-21-2009, 08:54 AM

Cy Falls has........

Klein Oak (scrimmage)
Bryan
Westfield
North Shore
District begins.

Not bad to see where your team stands.

Fleeman93

07-21-2009, 09:43 AM

Cy Falls has........

Klein Oak (scrimmage)
Bryan
Westfield
North Shore
District begins.

Not bad to see where your team stands.

That is pretty good for Falls. What record do you see Falls coming out of that with?

Wypirates03

07-21-2009, 10:19 AM

Unfortunately, we have no real tough test other than Hebron in pre-season testing. Maybe Horn... but they were better last year, and we all saw the score last year.

cyfallsbooster2

07-21-2009, 10:20 AM

That is pretty good for Falls. What record do you see Falls coming out of that with?

I really have no idea at this point. I saw alot of promising things in the spring game, but until you put the total package together on the field and see how it works, I have no idea. I think many of the pieces may be there, but it comes down to how serious is this group of kids this year and how (or if) they come together. Could be anywhere from 0-3 to 2-1. Bryan is always big and fast and gives Falls a tough time. Westfield is "considered" to be down a little this year, but, they are still Westfield. North Shore I think will be just too big, fast and experienced, but it will be the 3rd game. Maybe the offense can get the passing game going by that game and make enough quick strikes to keep up with them. Of course the KO "game" is a scrimmage and does not count into the record.

wesaxman34

07-21-2009, 10:26 AM

Unfortunately, we have no real tough test other than Hebron in pre-season testing. Maybe Horn... but they were better last year, and we all saw the score last year.

Do you use that term lightly? :D

SWMHebron

07-21-2009, 10:34 AM

Unfortunately, we have no real tough test other than Hebron in pre-season testing. Maybe Horn... but they were better last year, and we all saw the score last year.

Hebron has Plano in addition to Wylie, but without a doubt the game at the Pirate Ship is the most anticipated.

SLC

07-21-2009, 10:52 AM

Our test is going to be North Shore. Plano West, Arlington, Houston Bellaire and Mesquite are no push overs either.:eek:

You had me till Bellaire.:D

If we were playing their baseball program, I'd be worried.;)

NHB06

07-21-2009, 11:34 AM

Unfortunately, we have no real tough test other than Hebron in pre-season testing. Maybe Horn... but they were better last year, and we all saw the score last year.

Wylie has Hebron (week zero), a 4 week cakewalk, and then Plano (1st district test). Doesn't seem like a lot of preparation for Wylie heading into district play.

Wypirates03

07-21-2009, 11:36 AM

Wylie has Hebron (week zero), a 4 week cakewalk, and then Plano (1st district test). Doesn't seem like a lot of preparation for Wylie heading into district play.

My point exactly. I'd rather play a tough schedule and go 1-3 before district. Doesn't help that our first district opponent in Boyd.

NHB06

07-21-2009, 11:43 AM

My point exactly. I'd rather play a tough schedule and go 1-3 before district. Doesn't help that our first district opponent in Boyd.

Plano has Desoto, Hebron, Lache Seastrunk (Temple), and Plano East before heading to the Pirate Ship. Hopefully, the Wildcats will be ready for AHMO.

ALLENFANDINGO5

07-21-2009, 11:49 AM

Trinity has a monstrous preseason.
Three games in 12 days against formidable opponents - Bingham, Cedar Hill, and Allen. Our Trojans are going to have to grow up fast and gel on both offense and defense.
Bingham - lost to Alta in the state championship.
Cedar Hill - made to to the Quarterfinals
Allen - 5A Div I State Champions
I would say this is the toughest that I have seen. I hope you win 2 of 3 with you guys opening up with 2 wins:D

trojanbacker

07-21-2009, 01:13 PM

I would say this is the toughest that I have seen. I hope you win 2 of 3 with you guys opening up with 2 wins:D

Very tough schedule with a very young team. My guess is that we may take our lumps early, but this will be a pretty good team by the time play-offs roll around. Lineweaver has a way of using those early season games to put the right kids in the right places for when the games matter. 48 days until kick-off....then we'll see.

LH fan

07-21-2009, 01:19 PM

G Town at Williams on a Thursday night.

mojotrain

07-21-2009, 01:36 PM

mojotrain

07-21-2009, 01:39 PM

Very tough schedule with a very young team. My guess is that we may take our lumps early, but this will be a pretty good team by the time play-offs roll around. Lineweaver has a way of using those early season games to put the right kids in the right places for when the games matter. 48 days until kick-off....then we'll see.

This is where someone throws up a smiley face with big ole alligator tears rolling down their face. Think I'll go get me some Skoal to settle my stomach.

OAK2010

07-21-2009, 02:12 PM

Oak starts out at CyCreek, then to Dallas to face Notre Dame HS, and then back to Pridgeon to face CyWoods.
CyCreek should be the most important test, but all should be difficult games.

Trojan Fan

07-21-2009, 03:35 PM

I have a huge concern about Permians first game with Duncanville in San Antonio. I think Coach Gaines will prove to be a much better coach than old whats his name but there will be a transition and those are never as perfect as one would think they might be.
Is this game going to be T.V. in the DFW metroplex? I would love to see it.
Would be better if it were held in the DFW area, Cowboys Stadium right after the Trinity game. Thats what i call a double header....Good luck to both teams..

LPack007

07-21-2009, 05:13 PM

Longview at Abe.

mojosoundwave

07-21-2009, 05:22 PM

Is this game going to be T.V. in the DFW metroplex? I would love to see it.
Would be better if it were held in the DFW area, Cowboys Stadium right after the Trinity game. Thats what i call a double header....Good luck to both teams..

+1

Somebody better have a brutal schedule otherwise ET is the winner.:cool:

mcneilmav

07-21-2009, 08:01 PM

Cy Falls has........

Klein Oak (scrimmage)
Bryan
Westfield
North Shore
District begins.

Not bad to see where your team stands.

I like that slate of games.

Mavs have Westlake (scrimmage), A&M Consolidated, Belton, and Bryan. Would really like to see McNeil matchup with Copperas Cove for a couple of years. These two teams were district foes for a few years. Consol and Bryan should be good tests, with Brayn likely to be the tougher of the two. Don't know much about Belton, except that Mavs are 3-0 against them and only one game has even been close.

ktCarl

07-21-2009, 08:15 PM

My point exactly. I'd rather play a tough schedule and go 1-3 before district. Doesn't help that our first district opponent in Boyd.

I like how ya'lls District schedule ends with Allen. That should be an entertaining game.

LoboBooster73

07-21-2009, 08:31 PM

Longview at Abe.

Would be tougher for ya'll if it was at Lobo Stadium. Abe has not been good for Lobos.

Drphill

07-21-2009, 08:54 PM

Toughest pre-season test for Plano will be Desoto.

Hebron not a test. They swept all your subvarsity teams and gave the Varsity all they wanted and more. Did Super Man graduate:cool:

Wypirates03

07-21-2009, 10:29 PM

Hebron not a test. They swept all your subvarsity teams and gave the Varsity all they wanted and more. Did Super Man graduate:cool:

Hebron will not be near as good this year in the Varsity level. Plano wins easily in a shootout. 52-35 ;)

AE 8008

07-21-2009, 11:00 PM

Hebron not a test. They swept all your subvarsity teams and gave the Varsity all they wanted and more. Did Super Man graduate:cool:

still living in 4A i see

slcdragonfan

07-21-2009, 11:13 PM

Hebron will not be near as good this year in the Varsity level. Plano wins easily in a shootout. 52-35 ;)

:eek:

Somebody from HEBRON needs ot MARK this one....

Drphill

07-21-2009, 11:14 PM

Hebron will not be near as good this year in the Varsity level. Plano wins easily in a shootout. 52-35 ;)

Funny, Hebron has a better Defense than last year and Rex didn't score 52 pts. Hebron has some questions on Offense but No way Plano scores 52. Also think Hebron swept Wylie at all sub levels. And now no Nikta who was a one man wrecking crew. I think these two games are going to be big and very close. Hebron does have alot of young kids.....The future is going to be Great!

Wypirates03

07-21-2009, 11:14 PM

:eek:

Somebody from HEBRON needs ot MARK this one....

I was being sarcastic.

That's probably going to be one of the harder games to call this preseason. Both teams are really young. Plano had a questionable defense last year, but will have a significantly better defense this year. Hebron has a bunch of really talented players, but their youth will probably be a problem this season. Same can be said for Plano. We'll see.

Wypirates03

07-21-2009, 11:16 PM

Funny, Hebron has a better Defense than last year and Rex didn't score 52 pts. Hebron has some questions on Offense but No way Plano scores 52. Also think Hebron swept Wylie at all sub levels. And now no Nikta who was a one man wrecking crew. I think these two games are going to be big and very close. Hebron does have alot of young kids.....The future is going to be Great!

Jesus you people need to lighten up and smell the sarcasm. On that note. Hebron will be REALLY young this year. I'm talking about stacked sophomore/juniors young. Which means that the fact that the sub-varsity teams swept Wylie really means nothing.

slcdragonfan

07-21-2009, 11:17 PM

I was being sarcastic.

That's probably going to be one of the harder games to call this preseason. Both teams are really young. Plano had a questionable defense last year, but will have a significantly better defense this year. Hebron has a bunch of really talented players, but their youth will probably be a problem this season. Same can be said for Plano. We'll see.

Now that I agree with. Personally I see it as close...hard to say who wins until Hebron/Plano show what they have.

slcdragonfan

07-21-2009, 11:18 PM

Jesus you people need to lighten up and smell the sarcasm.

smilies are your friend whne using sarcasm, hard to tell on a computer screen.;):rolleyes::):cool::ninja:

Wypirates03

07-21-2009, 11:19 PM

smilies are your friend whne using sarcasm, hard to tell on a computer screen.;):rolleyes::):cool::ninja:

I had a smilie on it. lol

Drphill

07-21-2009, 11:25 PM

Jesus you people need to lighten up and smell the sarcasm. On that note. Hebron will be REALLY young this year. I'm talking about stacked sophomore/juniors young. Which means that the fact that the sub-varsity teams swept Wylie really means nothing.

I agree! My son is a Soph and their class is pretty good. I know the kids are heart broken because Wylie knocked them out, then played for the Championship. The kids think they are just a game away from returning to the show but we all know the odds of that. I think next year could be a year like last year. It will take a couple of games to get the right people in the right place.

ALLENFANDINGO5

07-22-2009, 06:20 AM

Very tough schedule with a very young team. My guess is that we may take our lumps early, but this will be a pretty good team by the time play-offs roll around. Lineweaver has a way of using those early season games to put the right kids in the right places for when the games matter. 48 days until kick-off....then we'll see.Didnt you guys have a fair amount of underclassmen in 07? And IMO Lineweaver is the best at getting the best out of you also.

Squirrel88

07-22-2009, 06:45 AM

dada

07-22-2009, 07:28 AM

I am going to have to say NS's has a tough and rough preseason. Just how many of yours have went to a state playoff game in the last 5 years?

2009 Schedule (Stadium):
8/29 @ Katy (Rhodes)
9/4 Eisenhower (GPISD)
9/12 Cy Falls (GPISD)
9/18 @ La Marque (Ethridge)
9/26 Southlake Carroll (Corsicana)

I know I am going to upset a lot of Katy people, but I believe its going to be smooth sailing until we run into the green wall.

Nothing wrong with that Squirrel,
Katy's first 5 is no walk in the park either
North Shore.....nuff said
Woodlands.....Drubbed Katy by 47 last season
Bellevue.....the unknown factor, but they are proven winners
FM Marcus.....Hopkins is one of the top backs in the State
West Brook......this game scares me because: 1. it looks like the "Easiest" of the first 5, 2. It's before a bye week

Bill4par

07-22-2009, 07:34 AM

I would have to say Euless Trinity. They may not win them all, but they will be a better team because of it. That is a very stout non district and in my opinion, a roadmap to success.:notworthy

trojanbacker

07-22-2009, 07:37 AM

Didnt you guys have a fair amount of underclassmen in 07? And IMO Lineweaver is the best at getting the best out of you also.

That's a very good point. However, that was a very special class of kids, 15 of whom went on to sign to play college ball. I'm not sure yet what we have with this group, but it's probably not fair to compare them to the 2007 team which was one of those "once in a blue moon" groups.

NHB06

07-22-2009, 07:41 AM

Hebron not a test. They swept all your subvarsity teams and gave the Varsity all they wanted and more. Did Super Man graduate:cool:

The title of the thread was TOUGHEST pre-season test. Plano's toughest pre-season test is clearly Desoto since the Eagles have a ton of returning talent, and the Wildcats play them during Week one. Hebron will be good, as always, but probably not as tough early on as Desoto.

PackAttack2005

07-22-2009, 08:18 AM

IMO, Tyler Lee, John Tyler, Longview and Mesquite will ALL be tough non-district games for Lufkin in '09.

bowiedawgs01

07-22-2009, 08:38 AM

For Bowie, it'll be Round Rock. They're always a tough team and usually make some noise in the playoffs. Solidly coached team with some talent. We beat them in their house last year 37-21. We get them at home this year. Should be a fun one. They own Bowie head to head all-time pretty handily. Gotta try and start swinging that back toward .500.

Vista Ridge upset us last year in Week 0. We get them at home this season. Hopefully we don't let them sneak up on us again. But they have some serious athletes coming back.

Hays Consolidated is a solid 4A team, but we blew them out badly last year. We have to go to Hays this year though. Small town teams with small town refs is always interesting.

Mr. Rod

07-22-2009, 05:37 PM

I would say most NS fans are excited about playing Katy. I know a lot are excited including me about playing SLC because we didn't get to play them last season.

Fleeman93

07-22-2009, 05:44 PM

I would say most NS fans are excited about playing Katy. I know a lot are excited including me about playing SLC because we didn't get to play them last season.

Don't take this the wrong way but, as a fan of the North Shore program and Houston area football, I hope you guys hoe slap the green.

NHB06

07-22-2009, 05:49 PM

I would say most NS fans are excited about playing Katy. I know a lot are excited including me about playing SLC because we didn't get to play them last season.

When/where is the SLC/NS game?

Trinity Trojan Fan For Li

07-22-2009, 06:25 PM

I am going to have to say NS's has a tough and rough preseason. Just how many of yours have went to a state playoff game in the last 5 years?

Trinity is still the winner.

IN THE LAST 5 YEARS
Bingham - 2006 State Champion
Cedar Hill - 2006 State Champion Div II
Allen - 2008 State Champion Div I

SLC

07-22-2009, 06:32 PM

When/where is the SLC/NS game?

Corsicana
September 26th at 6pm

NHB06

07-22-2009, 07:29 PM

Corsicana
September 26th at 6pm

Thanks. Is this game televised?

ALLENFANDINGO5

07-22-2009, 08:34 PM

That's a very good point. However, that was a very special class of kids, 15 of whom went on to sign to play college ball. I'm not sure yet what we have with this group, but it's probably not fair to compare them to the 2007 team which was one of those "once in a blue moon" groups.I realize they were special, that definitely showed in their play. So it would be unfair to compare, but Lineweaver knows how to get the blue moon to shine in and only in Euless.

Wypirates03

07-22-2009, 11:49 PM

Trinity is still the winner.

IN THE LAST 5 YEARS
Bingham - 2006 State Champion
Cedar Hill - 2006 State Champion Div II
Allen - 2008 State Champion Div I

That looks like the Last 3 years to me!

Wypirates03

07-22-2009, 11:50 PM

Corsicana
September 26th at 6pm

Is that a Saturday?

Nevermind. I just got unlazy and looked it up. I'm going to try to go to that game.

mojotrain

07-23-2009, 12:02 AM

Is this game going to be T.V. in the DFW metroplex? I would love to see it.
Would be better if it were held in the DFW area, Cowboys Stadium right after the Trinity game. Thats what i call a double header....Good luck to both teams..

I haven't heard that it is to be televised at all. I'm about as ok with San Antonio as D/ FW, but San Antonio is closer to my fishing and I do feel about half Latino sometimes.

SLC

07-23-2009, 12:12 AM

Thanks. Is this game televised?

Not that I'm aware of as yet, but it may be fed locally to the DF DUB...then again, by the time it rolls around, FSSW may pick it up.

Wypirates03

07-23-2009, 12:17 AM

Not that I'm aware of as yet, but it may be fed locally to the DF DUB...then again, by the time it rolls around, FSSW may pick it up.

I definitely see that as a game they would pick up. I really don't see any better Thursday or Saturday games that week.

Dynastybegan86

07-23-2009, 12:47 AM

Dynastybegan86

07-23-2009, 12:58 AM

Katy will be lucky to go 2-3 against the first 5!

GPNS - Houston powerhouse riding a huge winning streak into the game and having confidence after last year's dominating second half performance, plus they have more talent than Katy. L

The Woodlands - Many think this will be a turn around blowout game for Katy, but many forget that the Woods runs a spread O which Katy hasn't fared too well against in recent years...ie 2008! L

Bellevue, WA - 6 of 8 state titles in the last 8 years and they have a reputatution of taking down OOS opponents. 50/50

FMM - First and only "road" game for Katy. Hopkins anyone? L

BWB - Always loaded with talent, but did lose an awesome back in Michael!! W

Dynastybegan86

07-24-2009, 12:55 AM

I definitely see that as a game they would pick up. I really don't see any better Thursday or Saturday games that week.

If the 'Sho beats Katy in week 0, this game shoud be picked up!!