Vince Young declares for the draft :( [Archive]

cove_2001

01-08-2006, 03:25 PM

I know I am new to this site but I have been reading this forum for awhile now.

I just turned on the TV and it showed Vince Young declaring for the NFL.

I know Wide is going to be upset about this. He thought he would come back and play for Texas.

Vince Young will be a legend.

cove_2001

jtk1519

01-08-2006, 03:29 PM

The news broke early this morning so I think most Texas fans have come to grips with it. It's tough to lose a guy like that early, but you can't help but be happy for the guy.

cove_2001

01-08-2006, 03:37 PM

Yeah I heard he was going to declare but I don't believe the news all the time. Look what happened to the miner's story.

When I saw that they broke into live coverage, that is when I believed it.

Does anyone know if he was crying? He looked like he let his teammates down, and it didn't look like he was that happy to announce.

cove_2001

ACM Dad

01-08-2006, 04:30 PM

It's my opinion that he'd have been pretty stupid to come back for his Sr. year. He'll neve be worth more than he is now. He has nowhere to go but down if he went back to UT.

I think it'd be cool to get that last year of carefree college life, but there are way too many risks in Vince's case for doing that.

Oh, and the rest of the Big 12 says Thanks!

mad_fan

01-08-2006, 04:59 PM

Bravo, VY!!! You the man!!! Get all the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Sacred Ground

01-08-2006, 05:04 PM

He better hope he's not drafted by the Aint's. That team from the Big Easy is notorious for stifling the careers of young promising talent. Maybe if they move to another city and change their mascot name and uniforms they might get some football respect. And, I say this in regard to a pre-Hurricane Katrina era.

DirtyHarry01

01-08-2006, 05:29 PM

Jeez, that explains the loud whine I heard from the direction of Austin, TX. Mack Brown must need to be sedated. And Vince said earlier he was staying in college. Credibility, mate...

cove_2001

01-08-2006, 05:42 PM

jtk1519

01-08-2006, 05:48 PM

Jeez, that explains the loud whine I heard from the direction of Austin, TX. Mack Brown must need to be sedated. And Vince said earlier he was staying in college. Credibility, mate...

You sure didn't hear a "whine." Perhaps that sound you heard was really a sigh of relief coming from collie station. 99% of Texas fans not only understand Vince's decision, but are happy with it. Sure, we would love to have him around another year, but Vince has done so much for The University of Texas that he deserves what he has earned.

BTW, Vince said he "planned" to return... plans change when circumstances change. Only a complete idiot fails to realize that.

dragonfootballfan

01-08-2006, 06:14 PM

HOOKEM

01-08-2006, 06:20 PM

You sure didn't hear a "whine." Perhaps that sound you heard was really a sigh of relief coming from collie station. 99% of Texas fans not only understand Vince's decision, but are happy with it. Sure, we would love to have him around another year, but Vince has done so much for The University of Texas that he deserves what he has earned.

BTW, Vince said he "planned" to return... plans change when circumstances change. Only a complete idiot fails to realize that.

I totally agree with you, we as fans cannot be selfish. He delivered us a national title....Let him go make millions. We will still be a good team next year. Great, I do not know. I'd rather have 1 national title and ten years of what if's than what A&M has now.

wide-e-wide

01-08-2006, 06:57 PM

what did you say. I can't hear you because I have the national championship trophy in my ear.

to the classics...

Primetime536

01-08-2006, 09:10 PM

Do yall UT fan change the way you look at Vince now that he has declared he will be going pro? Or Is he the same king he was yesterday?

biglee2007

01-08-2006, 09:25 PM

same king he was yesterday ;)

adcwalker

01-08-2006, 09:29 PM

This put a big spin on the Ohio State vs Texas Game in Austin next year doesn't it.

Texasfrog

01-08-2006, 09:36 PM

Do yall UT fan change the way you look at Vince now that he has declared he will be going pro? Or Is he the same king he was yesterday?

He is the same king he was yesterday !!! I'm proud of Vince Young and only hope that he can go on to a very productive NFL career.

He has done so much for the Univ-Tx and Texas in general. I've never seen so much Texas mania in all my life and a huge part of that is the doing of Vince Young. He has propelled the program into the upper echlon levels now that I honestly feel Texas will be sustained for many years because of what V. Young has done for the program.

Two Rose Bowl wins, National Title and numerous other things to boot. Thanks Vincent Young... it was a pleasure seeing you play a couple of times at Madison and it's been a thrill watching you take Texas to another level.

Good luck in the NFL !!!:D

Texasfrog

01-08-2006, 09:39 PM

This put a big spin on the Ohio State vs Texas Game in Austin next year doesn't it.

We got alot coming back to Texas. Plus, Ohio State is losing some pretty solid "studs" also. Like their whole LB's core, some Wr's and a few other players.

But, whenever you starting the season with a new untested QB there is some several huge questions..

dragons08

01-08-2006, 10:13 PM

i was at buffalo wild wings, just watching the end of the giants game chilling out, and gettin ready for the 2nd game..and bam out of nowhere the VY press confrence comes on..lots of sad faces at bww

jtk1519

01-08-2006, 10:17 PM

Do yall UT fan change the way you look at Vince now that he has declared he will be going pro? Or Is he the same king he was yesterday?

What most non-Longhorn fans don't realize is that we have viewed Vince in this light for a couple of years now... he's always been a king. It's only now that everybody else has caught on to what most Texas fans have known since Vince first took the field in 2003.

dragons08

01-08-2006, 10:19 PM

whos qb next year for the horns? or is it just going to be a competition?

DragonBand06

01-08-2006, 10:20 PM

I'd rather have 1 national title and ten years of what if's than what A&M has now.
I'd rather have one day at A&M than a lifetime at t.u. :p

dragons08

01-08-2006, 10:35 PM

I'd rather have one day at A&M than a lifetime at t.u. :p
and that is funny how?

BAMF cowboy

01-08-2006, 10:38 PM

Colt McCoy, a RS Freshman is the only qb on scholarship right now...he's never taken a snap for the horns. Snead and Harris are coming in. It's a complete toss up. With Jamaal, Ramonce, Sevlin, Limas, Billy, Quan, Tweedie, and 2 OL all returning, they should be able to settle the new qb in nicely.

biglee2007

01-08-2006, 10:40 PM

I'd rather have one day at A&M than a lifetime at t.u. :p
ya id hate to go to tu as well but i would LOVE to go to THE University of Texas

BAMF cowboy

01-08-2006, 10:41 PM

and that is funny how?

he has a point though...one day at M&A was MORE than enough for me

jtk1519

01-08-2006, 10:44 PM

I'd rather have one day at A&M than a lifetime at t.u. :p

I don't blame you. There arent a ton of people beating down the doors of Tulsa University. I guess it isnt that bad, but a lifetime in Tulsa is unacceptable.

wide-e-wide

01-08-2006, 10:47 PM

I don't blame you. There arent a ton of people beating down the doors of Tulsa University. I guess it isnt that bad, but a lifetime in Tulsa is unacceptable.

I can think of 2 places right off the top of my head...that are worse than Tulsa...

Norman

and

Bryan/College Station

'course what the hell do I know?

jtk1519

01-08-2006, 10:50 PM

I can think of 2 places right off the top of my head...that are worse than Tulsa...

Norman

and

Bryan/College Station

'course what the hell do I know?

Yeah, but which would you choose... one day amidst the trailer parks of Norman, one day amidst the dead dogs and milkmen of collie station or a lifetime in Tulsa?

wide-e-wide

01-08-2006, 10:54 PM

Yeah, but which would you choose... one day amidst the trailer parks of Norman, one day amidst the dead dogs and milkmen of collie station or a lifetime in Tulsa?

"We don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee..."

Tulsa.......and I didn't even hesitate. If I were forced to live in Bryan/College Station......I would run full speed into the bookstore...and hope that one of those pieces of plywood on the WRONG FREAKIN' SIDE of the windows...severed my head.

jtk1519

01-08-2006, 10:59 PM

"We don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee..."

Tulsa.......and I didn't even hesitate. If I were forced to live in Bryan/College Station......I would run full speed into the bookstore...and hope that one of those pieces of plywood on the WRONG FREAKIN' SIDE of the windows...severed my head.

Now that belongs in the classics.

DragonBand06

01-08-2006, 11:02 PM

Whatever you say. I love the tradition and feeling that everyone is one big family. One Aggie has more Tradition and Love for his School than all of Austin.

wide-e-wide

01-08-2006, 11:03 PM

My nephew is a student at aggy...

His freshman year...my sister called me and asked me to help them move his stuff into the dorm......I said "hell no"

I support my nephew getting an education...no matter where it is...even if it is aggy...
But I be damned if I am gonna participate in it.

wide-e-wide

01-08-2006, 11:04 PM

Whatever you say. I love the tradition and feeling that everyone is one big family. One Aggie has more Tradition and Love for his School than all of Austin.

That's probably because...most of them ARE part of the same big family.
You are making it too easy agroid.

jtk1519

01-08-2006, 11:06 PM

Whatever you say. I love the tradition and feeling that everyone is one big family. One Aggie has more Tradition and Love for his School than all of Austin.

It's a family tree with no branches.

DragonBand06

01-08-2006, 11:07 PM

It's a family tree with no branches.
Sorry, but don't talk about things you have no idea about; the Aggies are EVERYWHERE!

wide-e-wide

01-08-2006, 11:23 PM

Sorry, but don't talk about things you have no idea about; the Aggies are EVERYWHERE!

I have no idea who these Aggies folk are...but I bet aggy would stomp a mudhole in their ***.

jtk1519

01-08-2006, 11:40 PM

Sorry, but don't talk about things you have no idea about; the Aggies are EVERYWHERE!

So are cockroaches. Unfortunately, Raid doesn't make an aggy spray yet.

ktCarl

01-09-2006, 06:49 AM

Hey, is it possible for the Texans to trade Carr for a #2 pick and then select Vince Young #1 and Reggie Bush #2?

Favpack

01-09-2006, 07:51 AM

A little overly-optimistic there ktcarl - no way Houston gets the first 2 picks. Guru Mel now says Bush to Houston; Leinart to NO and Vince goes 3rd to Tennessee where he works with McNair for 1-2 years - not bad.

Like most - I'm bummed because I wanted to see VY one more year - but after watching Carson Palmer blow out his knee on a freak play - you understand injuries can happen in a blink - and Vince loses $20M in a blink if that happened in a late season game.

I do believe he would have had a year for the ages, UT repeats, and he goes No. 1 in the draft after winning the Heisman - BUT - if the injury or worse does happen - we all regret it with him.

CyFallsMom

01-09-2006, 08:10 AM

Do yall UT fan change the way you look at Vince now that he has declared he will be going pro? Or Is he the same king he was yesterday?

Still view him the same way - he is awesome and he has brought so much to UT. I have been a fan since birth pretty much - I was never given a chance with the Orange Bloods in my house!! I have cheered during the highs and been as down as possible with the lows. I have never jumped off that UT bandwagon though! I wish Vince to have a superb NFL career and whichever team gets him (subliminal message inserted here: TEXANS!!) will be the better for it because he is a good person too. UT will be fine - lots of talent there and more on the way, many because of Vince. Like I said - he has brought a LOT to Texas and he will always be the KING!!

KT2000

01-09-2006, 09:24 AM

Amen to what CyFallsMom just said. I support Vince's decision 200%. He's ready, and I'll be an instant fan of whichever franchise picks him up. Texas has recruited well, and will be fine.

dada

01-09-2006, 09:31 AM

With Vince the horns would have been preseason #1 next year....I will now say the Buckeyes may come to Austin with that #1 ranking. Do you guys think the Horns will have enough to take them.....I mean the defense returns a lot of guys.....The offense loses a lot in Young and Thomas....but I think they still have a lot of firepower coming back to be a top 10 team.

Tut

01-09-2006, 09:56 AM

Favpack

01-09-2006, 10:06 AM

The surprising, somewhat concerning issue is the fact that Texas will obviously be quite thin at qb next year. Assuming Colt McCoy, a redshirt fresh., starts - you've got 1-2 true freshmen behind him - still surprised there is no jr at the qb slot - even as a backup.

Big Daddy Cool

01-09-2006, 01:01 PM

Guru Mel.

Recent history will show that Mel is not near the guru we believed he was for so long. After all if you will think back he is the guy who said the Colts were making a mistake in drafting Peyton instead of Ryan Leaf and well we all know how that one turned out. Also I heard on 610 that the story he and Chris Mortensen are citing was made a few weeks before the Rose Bowl was played.

RPM

01-09-2006, 01:10 PM

Im an Ohio State fan but even I am happy to see him get into the draft..

1. because Ohio wont have to worry about him next season
2. because he might be a Titan

my fav college and nfl team...:D

TheDuke

01-09-2006, 01:56 PM

Im an Ohio State fan but even I am happy to see him get into the draft..

1. because Ohio wont have to worry about him next season
2. because he might be a Titan

my fav college and nfl team...:D

SORRY! He BETTER be a Texan or the fan base will DROP WAY OFF!!

HOUSTON..................You will have a problem if you don't draft Vince Young!

CyFallsMom

01-09-2006, 02:44 PM

Hey, is it possible for the Texans to trade Carr for a #2 pick and then select Vince Young #1 and Reggie Bush #2?

Possible, not probable. They could trade Carr to N.O. for their #2 pick and get both - that would be a minor miracle though. I would hate to see Vince go to Tennessee but, even worse for him, would be the black hole called the New Orleans Saints. Bush, in my opinion, won't be happy in Houston because he has a huge umbilical cord stuck to San Diego and he is not shy about that. Texans may have a "John Elway" situation if they do draft him. They need Vince so badly - they will sell out home games with Vince. I know it will take a while for him to become acclimated but what have they got to lose. I got tired of watching Carr run out of bounds early in the season and stopped watching - I know Vince would at least TRY to get some yardage, even with no OL. He is a game maker and sort of a visionary when it comes to the QB position.

As far as Texas being ranked lower next year - so what!! They were #2 all year with the exception of one week and look what it got them. They actually play better when having to prove themselves (sort of like a high school team that I like to watch;) )

TheDuke

01-09-2006, 02:51 PM

Possible, not probable. They could trade Carr to N.O. for their #2 pick and get both - that would be a minor miracle though. I would hate to see Vince go to Tennessee but, even worse for him, would be the black hole called the New Orleans Saints. Bush, in my opinion, won't be happy in Houston because he has a huge umbilical cord stuck to San Diego and he is not shy about that. Texans may have a "John Elway" situation if they do draft him. They need Vince so badly - they will sell out home games with Vince. I know it will take a while for him to become acclimated but what have they got to lose. I got tired of watching Carr run out of bounds early in the season and stopped watching - I know Vince would at least TRY to get some yardage, even with no OL. He is a game maker and sort of a visionary when it comes to the QB position.

As far as Texas being ranked lower next year - so what!! They were #2 all year with the exception of one week and look what it got them. They actually play better when having to prove themselves (sort of like a high school team that I like to watch;) )

WELL SAID MOM!!! WELL SAID!! Vince will turn this city into FOOTBALL HEAVEN!! So what if we suck now! It will be worth it in the long run! What is more important anyway? FANS!! FANS!! FANS!! Vince will fill the seats and the screen!

PICK VINCE YOUNG HOUSTON!!

Tut

01-09-2006, 03:15 PM

I think the Texans should find out who the Saints want, take him, and make a trade for nine draft picks.:D

Seriously, I like Carr and think he can do well given protection. However, VY is a special talent... too good to pass up. I would like to see Houston draft him and trade Carr for an outstanding offensive lineman. While Bush has game breaking ability, the Texans running backs are not shabby. Davis, when healthy, is good, Wells steady, and Morency has upward potential.

Whoever takes Vince Young should revise their offense to utilize his talent. It would be a good idea to have a similar style backup. You are free to question my sanity (many have), but how about taking Reggie McNeil in a later round as both a backup and an additional weapon. An innovative coach could utilize them together on some plays.

This is not be an overnight transition, but would be exciting and, I believe, could work for great rewards in a couple of years. Next season is a building year anyway.

TheDuke

01-09-2006, 03:35 PM

How about Carr to the Raiders for Robert Gallery the RT? He was the 1st pick from the Raiders not to long ago.

ktCarl

01-09-2006, 07:53 PM

Possible, not probable. They could trade Carr to N.O. for their #2 pick and get both - that would be a minor miracle though.

I know I was dreaming (Carr wouldn't bring a #2 pick) but a lot of people are thinking the Texans will take Bush as a pure logical football X and O's reason. Many forget that the NFL is a business and the Texans best business choice is to take VY. He will sell tickets, t-shirts, ball caps, shoes, meatloaf........ The Texans make a lot of their $$ back selecting VY. It's the bottom line that counts in the NFL.

ktCarl

01-09-2006, 07:55 PM

They actually play better when having to prove themselves (sort of like a high school team that I like to watch;) )

You must be talking about the Katy Tigers and their comeback win over Cy-Falls!! :D

KT2000

01-09-2006, 08:31 PM

jtk1519

01-09-2006, 08:43 PM

Favpack,

It is interesting we don't have a more experienced QB in the wings, but VY has a lot to do with that also. Of course, in today's day and age in any sport it's basically all about "how fast can I play?" and no one wanted to sit behind Young for 3-4 years.

Heck, Chris Leak even said as much during his recruitment a few years back. He admitted he didn't choose Texas because VY was the player he used on Playstation the most. That's basically an exact quote from Leak.

That's why Lyan "Leon" Perilloser did what he did coming out of high school. He didn't want to wait behind Vince. The irony is that Leon could have red-shirted at Texas just like he did at LSU, but here, he would more than likely have 4 years to be the starter starting right now. Now, he's going to have to battle it out in the offseason to try and beat out Flynn just so he can have a shot at taking the starting job away from Russell... who still has a couple of years left. Makes you wonder what these kids are thinking.

SVite

01-09-2006, 09:09 PM

Both Vince ,and Bush would kill the salary cap!
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stevefoxsc

01-10-2006, 02:17 AM

like cedric benson where ever Vince goes id cheeer for him best of luck to him in an opportunity very few have and what many would love.

dragon06 id wrather spend a year at Temple community college then go to A&M for a day

LoneRocket

01-10-2006, 10:46 AM

Do you think Ryan Perrilloux's dad is kicking himself right now? Just because Mack Brown told him the truth about not playing this past season and I guess LSU might have told him otherwise, but I did not see him on the field this past season.

jtk1519

01-10-2006, 12:32 PM