2009 Gridiron Guide: Unit Rankings

[jc84chill]

Here you go...

Please PM or email me if you catch any mistakes or corrections that need to be made.

In our opinion...

2009 Gridiron Guide: Unit Rankings (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/2009%20Gridiron%20Guide/gg_09UnitRankings.htm)

[DragonBand06]

meh. ;)
jk, more good stuff as usual! :notworthy

[svhorns]

Look at all that Smithson Valley talent.

[farmerfan]

Look at all that Smithson Valley talent.

Look at all that San Antonio area and region 4 talent to boot. Yeah SV really plays so many talented teams throughout district and regional play in the playoffs.


Great job with the rankings guys.

[bowiedawgs01]

Under OLine, DLine and Linebackers you list them as FB Hightower. Under Secondary you list them as Fort Bend Hightower.

Just bringing your attention to an inconsistancy I noticed. It's my OCD. :D

[E-Vol-ution]

The team and the coach wins the games. The talent gets a better chance to go to college free for playing football.
Look at all that Smithson Valley talent.

[SP Tiger Backer]

Thanks for the hard work. Good stuff.

I agree with the defensive rank for Stony Point, they will be tough. I don't necessarily disagree with not having the offense in the top 10 at this point. What I am curious about is how SP is ranked at No. 2 in the overall state rankings without both an offense and defense in the top 10 such as Allen, Katy and others?

[Favpack]

Well done gang - bravo.

[KT2000]

Thanks for the hard work. Good stuff.

I agree with the defensive rank for Stony Point, they will be tough. I don't necessarily disagree with not having the offense in the top 10 at this point. What I am curious about is how SP is ranked at No. 2 in the overall state rankings without both an offense and defense in the top 10 such as Allen, Katy and others?

We think the offense will be effective enough even if they aren't necessarily a top unit. Sharp has been getting positive reviews this summer from what I've read of his camp performances. I think he will be a good one. The skill talent is in place. The biggest thing for the SP offense will be the line. That was the big debate we had during the ranking process when it came time to talk about Stony Point. They have to replace their OL. They wouldn't be ranked near as highly without the defensive quality, but that makes a big difference.

Championship teams all play outstanding defense for the most part. However, offenses vary greatly. Championship offenses are units who take care of the ball and put the required point totals on the board, whether they operate from the spread like Allen/Carroll or more traditional sets Katy/Trinity/Judson. A team doesn't need a world beating offense if they can play great defense.

[Rapture]

We think the offense will be effective enough even if they aren't necessarily a top unit. Sharp has been getting positive reviews this summer from what I've read of his camp performances. I think he will be a good one. The skill talent is in place. The biggest thing for the SP offense will be the line. That was the big debate we had during the ranking process when it came time to talk about Stony Point. They have to replace their OL. They wouldn't be ranked near as highly without the defensive quality, but that makes a big difference.

Championship teams all play outstanding defense for the most part. However, offenses vary greatly. Championship offenses are units who take care of the ball and put the required point totals on the board, whether they operate from the spread like Allen/Carroll or more traditional sets Katy/Trinity/Judson. A team doesn't need a world beating offense if they can play great defense.
good job KT's. glad its here

[Bro. Malcolm X]

Giving All Honor and Praise to God the Father. I thank HIM for his Grace. I thank HIM for his Mercy. I thank HIM for sending Jesus, the Perfect, into the world.

FB Hightower = Loaded

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[SP Tiger Backer]

We think the offense will be effective enough even if they aren't necessarily a top unit. Sharp has been getting positive reviews this summer from what I've read of his camp performances. I think he will be a good one. The skill talent is in place. The biggest thing for the SP offense will be the line. That was the big debate we had during the ranking process when it came time to talk about Stony Point. They have to replace their OL. They wouldn't be ranked near as highly without the defensive quality, but that makes a big difference.

Championship teams all play outstanding defense for the most part. However, offenses vary greatly. Championship offenses are units who take care of the ball and put the required point totals on the board, whether they operate from the spread like Allen/Carroll or more traditional sets Katy/Trinity/Judson. A team doesn't need a world beating offense if they can play great defense.

Thanks for explaining your logic. I think the SP offense will be in the top 10 before the end of the season. I know the QB position is in question with an incoming junior but his varsity experience last year and good coaching will have him ready.

[jc84chill]

Apologize for listing "Justin Agnew" as "Nate Askew"...obviously I know the SA Madison WR doesn't play secondary for SLC. :)

[jc84chill]

FM Marcus
Is DE Nick Fitzgerald so good that you HAD to list him twice?:D

Heh...he might just be...

My Frontpage 2003 does some weird things to the pages sometimes and duplicating text is one of them. :)

[jc84chill]

Thanks for explaining your logic. I think the SP offense will be in the top 10 before the end of the season. I know the QB position is in question with an incoming junior but his varsity experience last year and good coaching will have him ready.

We've been hearing nothing but very good things about Sharp. Look forward to seeing him this weekend.

[twolf5]

Now that you've done the unit rankings and dark horse/most improved analysis, do you still think Cedar Park is not a top 25 team? Not that it matters, just curious

[Red Raider Rick]

Might want to take another look at FB Elkins offensive line. Hightower's is good also, but the crew returning to Elkins is better.

Great job! Thanks for the hard work!

[KT2000]

Now that you've done the unit rankings and dark horse/most improved analysis, do you still think Cedar Park is not a top 25 team? Not that it matters, just curious

I like Cedar Park out of the rankings to start. They are a team who could easily work their way in once we start playing games. That district is competitive though and you never know what'll happen with those teams week to week. Cedar Park is a perfect dark horse type candidate. The thing to keep in mind with the rankings is that the 15-25 section will be extremely volatile from week to week. It will look nothing like the current pre-season rankings after a few weeks of action.

[bowiedawgs01]

Being ranked 15-25 to start the season is only cool because your team gets a nice preview. Other than that, it doesn't mean a whole lot. By Week 3 it'll be all shuffled with teams 26-30 sneaking in.

[twolf5]

I like Cedar Park out of the rankings to start. They are a team who could easily work their way in once we start playing games. That district is competitive though and you never know what'll happen with those teams week to week. Cedar Park is a perfect dark horse type candidate. The thing to keep in mind with the rankings is that the 15-25 section will be extremely volatile from week to week. It will look nothing like the current pre-season rankings after a few weeks of action.

I agree with you, just curious about your thoughts since you came out with rankings first and a more detailed analysis later. I'd rather we earned it anyway.

[jc84chill]

Being ranked 15-25 to start the season is only cool because your team gets a nice preview. Other than that, it doesn't mean a whole lot. By Week 3 it'll be all shuffled with teams 26-30 sneaking in.

Couldn't have said it better myself :notworthy

[Firebird]

Great work all around. I know it's just your opinion, but what was it in your eyes that put RRSP's LB corps over Dallas Skyline with Nelson, Patterson, and Wallace? I would've thought that group was a shoo-in, so I'm wondering what I have missed about SP.

[platnmram]

Great work all around. I know it's just your opinion, but what was it in your eyes that put RRSP's LB corps over Dallas Skyline with Nelson, Patterson, and Wallace? I would've thought that group was a shoo-in, so I'm wondering what I have missed about SP.

They are the returning LB core that took them to the State Semifinals. They were also the leading tacklers for that great defensive team that only allowed 12.7 points per game. Taking nothing from that great LB core that Skyline has. IMO

[Bill4par]

I am always against pre-season rankings, as they are based on previous performance, however your micro analysis is impressive and does put some credibility behind the rankings. My compliments to you and your staff's for their work.:notworthy

[ftballin11]

I'm assuming that you feel that Allen has good defensive scheme, because the only unit mentioned is the Line backers and they arent even top 10.

Just wondering why Allen is ranked in the 10 ten in Defense without any of the top units.

[Bill4par]

Ftballin11......I noticed that too. I don't have a definitive explanation for that. Overall the dee that Allen will field this year, they got alot of rep's last year, in some great games. So although technically not starters, they saw alot of rep's. I think jc84 was accurate with the Allen LB's though.

[ftballin11]

Ftballin11......I noticed that too. I don't have a definitive explanation for that. Overall the dee that Allen will field this year, they got alot of rep's last year, in some great games. So although technically not starters, they saw alot of rep's. I think jc84 was accurate with the Allen LB's though.


I don't doubt the KT's at all. I just want to know there reasoning. If they think the coordinator is that good. Or if they are kinda unsure on the Allen D. I'm guessing the latter.

[stinger]

Ftballin11......I noticed that too. I don't have a definitive explanation for that. Overall the dee that Allen will field this year, they got alot of rep's last year, in some great games. So although technically not starters, they saw alot of rep's. I think jc84 was accurate with the Allen LB's though.


That's kind of like the Trinity units. Yes, they lost a lot of starters and talent. But, they will have upcoming players with lots of experience from last year. I'm not going into details, but new players from outside will also upgrade the quality. The beauty of all of this is everybody will get to see how much fun it is to fly under the radar. This year's preseason will probably get this team better, if not the best, prepared for the meat of the season. Remember 2005? that is another team that had some great players. However, the boys learned how to play as a TEAM. The results speak volumes. AHHH those are the things that keep us coming back for more.:D;)

[Bill4par]

Stinger....you hit the nail on the head - how they gel as a TEAM. Nice post.

[stinger]

Stinger....you hit the nail on the head - how they gel as a TEAM. Nice post.

Thanks...My philosophy is simple. You can have all the stars you want. How does the unit function together? Last year's backups at Trinity learned how to play with and without the starters. This prepared them to overcome weaknesses by utilizing strengths. This year those strengths have improved and the weaknesses have improved. Players from outside have also bolstered some areas.
Just as they say in golf: It's not how you get there, it's how you leave. Drive for show (stars and phenoms), putt for dough (play as a team).
"Your pants will not stay up without support"
It is time for Trinity's supporting cast to come to the front. I believe they will do just that.
Remember: This years team is mostly sophomores and juniors...what does that say about the next several years????:D;)

[alleneagle4]

I don't doubt the KT's at all. I just want to know there reasoning. If they think the coordinator is that good. Or if they are kinda unsure on the Allen D. I'm guessing the latter.


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[Bro. Malcolm X]

I'm assuming that you feel that Allen has good defensive scheme, because the only unit mentioned is the Line backers and they arent even top 10.

Just wondering why Allen is ranked in the 10 ten in Defense without any of the top units.

Giving All Honor and Praise to God the Father. I thank HIM for his Grace. I thank HIM for his Mercy. I thank HIM for sending Jesus, the Perfect, into the world.

Number 8???

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