Mack Brown - Recognition of Texas High School Football

[hollywood]

Where else but Texas? You just won the NCAA championship and you thought enough to recognize Texas High School Football in your acceptance speech. Nothing but awesome. Says a lot about the coach. Texas. And where Texas High School Football ranks. Anyway, I thought it was a nice gesture.

[Lp78]

Class Act ! !

[Sacred Ground]

Where else but Texas? You just won the NCAA championship and you thought enough to recognize Texas High School Football in your acceptance speech. Nothing but awesome. Says a lot about the coach. Texas. And where Texas High School Football ranks. Anyway, I thought it was a nice gesture.
What an easy way to recruit, while your on the national stage. Every kid in Texas wants to go to UT right now. Have them come to you rather than you to them.

[owlfan 1]

I had fun watching the game and noting how many of those players I saw play in high school. For one year, at least, no one it Cali can brag that their players are better...

[ACM Dad]

When they were flashing the starting lineups, there weren't too many non-Texans.

[THEsouthlakeCARROLL]

My dad and i would sit there and say them out loud,

Texas Texas Texas Texas Texas


Texas Texas Colorado Texas New Jersey Texas

[Mad Hatter]

thats why texas beat usc our Team are just better yeah the have all those private school but our kids play for hometown pride and the Longhorns play for State pride........ Hook'em Horns

[Jtate862003]

Just wanna give props to Pete Carroll on a great coaching job..and the quick speech he gave about if he had to lose to someone he'd rather lose to mack brown than anyone else...

And i wanna say what a piss poor comment by matt leinart at the end saying quote "they had what it took tonight but we are still the better football team"

Face it matty yall lost and got outplayed tonight..

But great game by both teams...definetely one of the better college games i've seen in a while.

[NMHS fan]

I had fun watching the game and noting how many of those players I saw play in high school. For one year, at least, no one it Cali can brag that their players are better...

I was thinking the same as I saw quite a few. I hated to see Tarrell Brown go out with an injury, but at least it was toward the end of the game. That was nice what Mack said about Texas HS football - speaks volumes about him.

[Favpack]

That was cool - way cool - and, no, I don't think Mack was on top of his game enough at the moment to say it was "free recruiting" - he sincerely meant it - almost every player on his team played hs ball in Texas.

[dragonsdaddy]

mack is nothing if not a master recruiter. the comment was pure mack. great job recruiting vince 4 years ago.

[KT2000]

Mack doesn't need to use TV air time to sell the University of Texas. Anyone who's been to Austin recently and seen the campus/facilities knows exactly why UT is able to recruit this state so well. It just took the right man to put everything together, and Brown has proven to be it. Previous teams were basically one game away from having an opportunity to play for it all, and it was good to see the '05 Horns break through and bring the crystal football to the state of TEXAS.

[toonman]

I agree with a lot of the comments :-

Pete Carroll did credit to both Mack Brown and did say Vince Young is an exceptional player, the likes of which he had never seen before.

Also Mack Brown did give praise to Texas High School Football, which does provide a fertile supply of players for the Texas universities. I think it shows great class to recognize this. There is no doubt that Texas is one of, if not the premier regions/states for football. Most of the UT players came from Texas schools.

[Miss Kitty]

I smiled when Mack said that about Texas High School football. Of course we all knew it, but now everyone else does too. :)

I thought that USC did a terrible job of using the clock. Their last two drives went way too fast. Although I was glad for the Horns, because it gave them the time they needed to win.

[Favpack]

I smiled when Mack said that about Texas High School football. Of course we all knew it, but now everyone else does too. :)

I thought that USC did a terrible job of using the clock. Their last two drives went way too fast. Although I was glad for the Horns, because it gave them the time they needed to win.
Yes - for sure - the clock worked in UT's favor -- if USC has a minute in the end there... who knows. And, did you see the clock still running on the next to final drive for UT after Sweed steps out of bounds? 45 seconds were lost - which again ended up hurting USC - not Texas. Fate can be sweet at times.

[farmerfan]

I smiled when Mack said that about Texas High School football. Of course we all knew it, but now everyone else does too. :)

I thought that USC did a terrible job of using the clock. Their last two drives went way too fast. Although I was glad for the Horns, because it gave them the time they needed to win.


USC did not do a terrible job of using the clock. On their last scoring drive they got an extra 15 yards due to a late hit on Leinart, this took the ball from around midfield to the 35. A few plays later they went for what they felt would be the final nail in the coffin. In a game like that one was turning out to be, you score when you getthe chance to. On their final drive some could say they should have run the ball more, however Texas D was geared around Lendale, throwing the football in my mind was a smart strategy, at that point Leinart was something like 13-14 in the second half and had they got a 1st down would have been able to ice the clock, they didnt and looking back it is easy to say they didnt use the clock to their advantage. I believe they did, I also agreed with the call going for it on 4th down. The Texas defense just made the plays when they were needed.

[Miss Kitty]

Oh the 4th down call was the only thing to do. The Texas D stepped up when they needed to. But I still am glad that USC ran their last 2 drives like that. I think it helped the Horns big time. Had they run the ball just a couple of more times and used up say 20 seconds. Who knows what the outcome would have been.

[bubbacoach]

As a High School football coach we get the opportunity to meet alot of the College football caoches and sit down with them and discuss football and different things at Clinics. And I know one thing, I have told my wife that if the opportunity presents itself my son would play for Mack Brown. Yes, he is a master recruiter. But at the same time he is one of the few if not he only college Head football coach I have met that is not full of himself. Congradulations to Mack Brown, he deserves it. Congradulations to the Longhorns, and keep recruiting TEXAS athletes. We all know that Texas is the state that produces the Best High School Football players in the nation.:D

[farmerfan]

Oh the 4th down call was the only thing to do. The Texas D stepped up when they needed to. But I still am glad that USC ran their last 2 drives like that. I think it helped the Horns big time. Had they run the ball just a couple of more times and used up say 20 seconds. Who knows what the outcome would have been.

Texas was geared to stop the run, they picked up a few first downs via the pass. Had they run 3 straight to open up that last drive, then tey would have given the ball to Texas with plenty of time remaining and just as good field posistion. I believe the play calling and clock management was handled in the right way.

[Miss Kitty]

Perhaps you are right. I love hearing someone eles's perspective. It does make sense that way. I am just glad everything turned out the way it did.

[Drake]

Pete Carroll made a couple un-NFL like decisions and I think it came from the belief that they were just the better team and would win no matter what (overconfidence)... I say un-NFL because one of USC's big advantages the last few years has been the "professionality" of their system.

Not taking the FG up 7-0 in the 1st quarter was one, and even bigger was PASSING on 2nd down on their last set of downs before Texas' winning drive. The pass was incomplete and the play saved Texas either 30 seconds or a timeout. A run there may have been all USC needed whether they ultimately got the first down or not...

[Pack Daddy]

Where else but Texas? You just won the NCAA championship and you thought enough to recognize Texas High School Football in your acceptance speech. Nothing but awesome. Says a lot about the coach. Texas. And where Texas High School Football ranks. Anyway, I thought it was a nice gesture.

Lots of class with the Longhorn organization! That's why it's The University of Texas.

[farmerfan]

Pete Carroll made a couple un-NFL like decisions and I think it came from the belief that they were just the better team and would win no matter what (overconfidence)... I say un-NFL because one of USC's big advantages the last few years has been the "professionality" of their system.

Not taking the FG up 7-0 in the 1st quarter was one, and even bigger was PASSING on 2nd down on their last set of downs before Texas' winning drive. The pass was incomplete and the play saved Texas either 30 seconds or a timeout. A run there may have been all USC needed whether they ultimately got the first down or not...

Texas would have used a timeout in that situation then and by the end of the game it was evident Texas did not need all 3 of their timeouts. How did USC convert on the 3rd down of that drive? they threw the ball. You could say they should have taken the FG early in the game, however you could easily say if they convert that FD and score to make it 14-0 then we may have a different ballgame. The only thing about that call I question was motioning out to run a sneak with an empty backfield. Had they pounded it with LenDale up the middle I think they would have had a better chance to get a 1st than they had with Leinart running the sneak. It is always easy to question after the play was called, however I give credit and thought it was a great call on Carroll's part to go for it that early in the game.

[Pack Daddy]

Just wanna give props to Pete Carroll on a great coaching job..and the quick speech he gave about if he had to lose to someone he'd rather lose to mack brown than anyone else...

And i wanna say what a piss poor comment by matt leinart at the end saying quote "they had what it took tonight but we are still the better football team"

Face it matty yall lost and got outplayed tonight..

But great game by both teams...definetely one of the better college games i've seen in a while.

Leinart did kinda pee in his Post Toasties with that comment - I don't think anyone missed hearing him say that and his lack of class will be remembered. He also probably figured out that his value depreciated some in the game.

Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah - Hook em!

Go Pack!

[svcenter53]

Yeah i always thought that mack brown was a class act but to same something like that int hat kinda moment almost brought a tear to my eye!!...
But anyways im glad to see the national chamionship is in the right hands........HOOK EM HORNS and Vince kick some *** next year and take home the Heisman to texas

[drgnbkr]

Leinart did kinda pee in his Post Toasties with that comment - I don't think anyone missed hearing him say that and his lack of class will be remembered. He also probably figured out that his value depreciated some in the game.

Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah - Hook em!

Go Pack!

It is easy to see the real person when they lose....Leinart was not used to losing & did'nt know how to handle it..Vince & UT were not prepared to accept losing....

[Drake]

Texas would have used a timeout in that situation then and by the end of the game it was evident Texas did not need all 3 of their timeouts. How did USC convert on the 3rd down of that drive? they threw the ball. You could say they should have taken the FG early in the game, however you could easily say if they convert that FD and score to make it 14-0 then we may have a different ballgame. The only thing about that call I question was motioning out to run a sneak with an empty backfield. Had they pounded it with LenDale up the middle I think they would have had a better chance to get a 1st than they had with Leinart running the sneak. It is always easy to question after the play was called, however I give credit and thought it was a great call on Carroll's part to go for it that early in the game.Ifs and buts...

Pete Carroll didn't know that Texas wouldn't need all its timeouts. Its just like poker, if you have an advantage you keep the opponent under decision making pressure. By selecting to pass Carroll BROUGHT IN the possibility the incompletion, which would take the decision making pressure off Mack Brown and is exactly what happened. You can't be sure that UT would have stopped it at that point and/or that they wouldn't need that timeout if they got the ball back... As far as not taking the FG, again, keep the pressure on Texas and MORE IMPORTANTLY, DON'T give Texas the CHANCE to get the momentum back. A 4th down stop, however unlikely (it did happen), changes the momentum... Regardless, I'm not arguing that they made a difference in the outcome, only that they could have and were un-NFL like in that they went against conventional wisdom and could have been the result of Carroll believing his team was good enough to defy any backfires...

[farmerfan]

Ifs and buts...

Pete Carroll didn't know that Texas wouldn't need all its timeouts. Its just like poker, if you have an advantage you keep the opponent under decision making pressure. By selecting to pass Carroll BROUGHT IN the possibility the incompletion, which would take the decision making pressure off Mack Brown and is exactly what happened. You can't be sure that UT would have stopped it at that point and/or that they wouldn't need that timeout if they got the ball back... As far as not taking the FG, again, keep the pressure on Texas and MORE IMPORTANTLY, DON'T give Texas the CHANCE to get the momentum back. A 4th down stop, however unlikely (it did happen), changes the momentum... Regardless, I'm not arguing that they made a difference in the outcome, only that they could have and were un-NFL like in that they went against conventional wisdom and could have been the result of Carroll believing his team was good enough to defy any backfires...

The odds were USC's favor to complete that pass, the way Texas defense was configured they would have man coverage and Lineart was something like 13-14 in the second half. He runs the ball he also chances no gain and just as much time running off theclock after Texas uses a TO. With the way Texas was moving the ball, they were getting a first down rather easily, with the clock stoping on first downs, the TO is not as big a deal in the college game as it is in the NFL. I know it is important to have and utilize your timeouts, however you have the luxury of stoping the clock by gaining first downs and with VY scrambling the way he was, he was getting to the outside and would have gotten out of bounds. Carroll looked at it as in getting a first down and possibly another score. Can't fault the play call, you simply dance with the one who brought ya, and leinart had been on fire all half. They get that completion I guarantee you are not questioning or bringing up that call.

[lonny23]

Oh the 4th down call was the only thing to do. The Texas D stepped up when they needed to. But I still am glad that USC ran their last 2 drives like that. I think it helped the Horns big time. Had they run the ball just a couple of more times and used up say 20 seconds. Who knows what the outcome would have been.
I was 100% for USC going for it on 4th down. Texas had not stopped them very much and USC could almost run the clock out.

[lonny23]

USC did 2 stupid things in the last 30 seconds. They burned that timeout on the 2 point conversion when they needed a FG either way. That Heisman QB should've thrown the ball away early on the last play to get another play before time expired.

[Favpack]

You didn't expect the stop - I truly felt they would stop them earlier on a 3rd and 7 - but didn't. I agree with the call - BUT - Texas schemed correctly because Bush was next to Coach on the sideline and that was mistake - everyone and I mean everyone knew White was getting it up the gut - AND - USC got an unreal spot on the play - probably by a full half a yard - he was stopped a yard short and the chain almost got within 6 inches.

[wide-e-wide]

Why was Pete Carroll talking to John D Booty the entire game?

I thought they were setting up some kind of trick play...but he never came in did he?

[Drake]

The odds were USC's favor to complete that pass, the way Texas defense was configured they would have man coverage and Lineart was something like 13-14 in the second half. He runs the ball he also chances no gain and just as much time running off theclock after Texas uses a TO. With the way Texas was moving the ball, they were getting a first down rather easily, with the clock stoping on first downs, the TO is not as big a deal in the college game as it is in the NFL. I know it is important to have and utilize your timeouts, however you have the luxury of stoping the clock by gaining first downs and with VY scrambling the way he was, he was getting to the outside and would have gotten out of bounds. Carroll looked at it as in getting a first down and possibly another score. Can't fault the play call, you simply dance with the one who brought ya, and leinart had been on fire all half. They get that completion I guarantee you are not questioning or bringing up that call.I think you're missing my point... I agree with everything you said here, and if it worked, game over... All I'm saying is you have to consider the effects if it DOESN'T work... I think not taking the three (giving Texas some momentum) and not forcing Texas to either use a timeout or lose 30 seconds were critical miscalculations.

[Tut]

Had they run the ball just a couple of more times and used up say 20 seconds. Who knows what the outcome would have been.
Vince would have scored 20 seconds sooner.

[Favpack]

Why was Pete Carroll talking to John D Booty the entire game?

I thought they were setting up some kind of trick play...but he never came in did he?

Mornin' Wide - how'd you sleep last night?;) Booty will be the man next year I guess - will their slogan be "Booty Call" next year?

[lonny23]

Mornin' Wide - how'd you sleep last night?;) Booty will be the man next year I guess - will their slogan be "Booty Call" next year?
Wide didn't get any sleep. He was up all night.

[lonny23]

I liked the high school line, too. One of the guys over here said two days ago that he's going to make a record and title it "Texas 5A football." All the guys joke about the website, but our brand of entertainment has been seared in the minds of outsiders.:cool:

[farmerfan]

Mornin' Wide - how'd you sleep last night?;) Booty will be the man next year I guess - will their slogan be "Booty Call" next year?


I would not be surprised if they go with Sanchez. However if they go with booty, I like the way you think as far as slogans go. :D

[FeeltheHaka]

I caught the Texas High School appreciation quote, and loved it! It reminded me of the old Southwest Conference pride! It is beautiful seeing a team of mostly Texans takin care of Business! I was also happy as a Texas Alumni! Good God, My High School and College win in the same year!!! Those young men made me proud! In my opinion, this years bowl games were the best ever. An ironic thing here is that Reggie Bush or Leinert may become Texans next year.
I disagree with Bubba Coach about Mack Brown not being full of himself. I've met him several times myself, and I would say he is more on the arrogant side of things. But, I also think that these attributes can contribute to being a good leader. It is good to see that Mack Brown has given up his Micro-Managing ways with his quarterbacks!
I really hope more Texas High Schoolers aspire to become Longhorns! My youngest son wants to be. My oldest son "thinks" he wants to be an Aggie. Could be worse.

[wide-e-wide]

Mornin' Wide - how'd you sleep last night?;) Booty will be the man next year I guess - will their slogan be "Booty Call" next year?


I finally settled down about 5am...and I woke up at 9am...
I thought I had the day off...but I have a meeting a 3:00...So I have to work after all.

[farmerfan]

I finally settled down about 5am...and I woke up at 9am...
I thought I had the day off...but I have a meeting a 3:00...So I have to work after all.


wide, man congrats, I know what your feeling and going through this morning. It wasnt but 15 months ago I was in the same boat. God knows you have more than waited your turn for this and I am happy you got to experience it. Getting to be a fan of a team who has experienced hardships like Texas has, it makes it all the more better when the win it. Once again could not be happier for you or jtk or bowie or mtbray or gtown or the KT bros, yall enjoy this.

[wide-e-wide]

wide, man congrats, I know what your feeling and going through this morning. It wasnt but 15 months ago I was in the same boat. God knows you have more than waited your turn for this and I am happy you got to experience it. Getting to be a fan of a team who has experienced hardships like Texas has, it makes it all the more better when the win it. Once again could not be happier for you or jtk or bowie or mtbray or gtown or the KT bros, yall enjoy this.


Thanks bro...forgot the KT's...they have rode out the tough times too.
Where is ktchamp?....I bet he was going nuts last night.

[KT2000]

Champ and chill were at my place for the game, and we were acting like a buncha idiots when VY went into Jordan Mode.

I yelled like a 13 year old girl at an NSync concert.

[Tigerjag]

I yelled like a 13 year old girl at an NSync concert.

Did you jump on anyone this time?

VY went into Vince Mode. From now on, it will be called Vince Mode! :D

[wide-e-wide]

Did you jump on anyone this time?

VY went into Vince Mode. From now on, it will be called Vince Mode! :D


C'mon guys............It's Superman mode...you all know better.
Comebacks.....and picking the team up...and putting them on his
shoulders...is how he got that nickname...I think it fits perfectly.

[CyFallsMom]

Mack and the Longhorns were total class all season. When he said that about high school football, I was quite happy...I was waiting, though, for the "and thanks to all you wonderful guys and gals on 5atexasfootball.com for your insight and intelligence" to come out too - it was the the perfect forum!! :D

That game reminded me a little of the Katy/Cy Falls game (as far as emotions go) but this time, MY team WON!!! I didn't go to sleep until the wee hours because I just had to watch the game on tape again. I think I went to sleep with a big old smile frozen on my face:o

[KT2000]

Did you jump on anyone this time?


Nope.

In the words of Coach Zoffuto (commentator from Plano East-JT 94), "I done jumped out the booth and come back!!! They call me flash."

[lonny23]

Nope.

In the words of Coach Zoffuto (commentator from Plano East-JT 94), "I done jumped out the booth and come back!!! They call me flash."
He used to be the coach at Mt. Pleasant and he also said during the game,

"I'm sick. I think I'm going to throw up."

I think the other guy is the one that said, "I done wet my britches!":D

[dragonfootballfan]

C'mon guys............It's Superman mode...you all know better.
Comebacks.....and picking the team up...and putting them on his
shoulders...is how he got that nickname...I think it fits perfectly.
ya didn't you see the phonebooth on the Texas Sideline.

[North Shore Mustang]

As a High School football coach we get the opportunity to meet alot of the College football caoches and sit down with them and discuss football and different things at Clinics. And I know one thing, I have told my wife that if the opportunity presents itself my son would play for Mack Brown. Yes, he is a master recruiter. But at the same time he is one of the few if not he only college Head football coach I have met that is not full of himself. Congradulations to Mack Brown, he deserves it. Congradulations to the Longhorns, and keep recruiting TEXAS athletes. We all know that Texas is the state that produces the Best High School Football players in the nation.:D


I Agree with you on what you say about Mack Brown. What a class act!

The way he handles things is what every coach needs. You would never see him uptight on the sideline screaming his lungs out like "other" coaches. You saw when USC was up by two touchdowns...how would you see Pete Caroll if Texas was up by two...uptight as it can get! Just awesome how he handles and takes things.

[bleedgreen]

HOOK'EM!! didn't really care for the cheap comments made by leinhart at the post conference.....the better team?? i think not, second place doesn't get anything! Bush also made a similar comment about USC being the "better team"...great Heisman showing, Bush..LOL...that outside running didn't work against a fast defense, maybe once out of how many tries?? should have kept the ball in Lendale's hands--he was the most effective running right up the gut.....punt the ball with 2 minutes left and USC would have retained the title. Texas would have had to drive at least 80 yards for the final score if USC would have punted...i was really surprised by Pete's decision on that call.......i do have to say that this was one of the best football games that i have ever witnessed in my life...and my 'Horns winning it just made it all that much sweeter................thank you Texas...Longview and Dallas crapped out on me, but you didn't...........my football season is over.....1 out 3 isn't too bad, i guess????:cool:

[ruffshod]

Where else but Texas? You just won the NCAA championship and you thought enough to recognize Texas High School Football in your acceptance speech. Nothing but awesome. Says a lot about the coach. Texas. And where Texas High School Football ranks. Anyway, I thought it was a nice gesture.

Yeah, I agree. I heard him say that and thought about all the players in our great state. And all the great fans and supporters of football in this state. It was a noble way of showing appreciation of his talent pool. Texas should always get the pick of the litter. HOOK 'EM!

[toonman]

HOOK'EM!! didn't really care for the cheap comments made by leinhart at the post conference.....the better team?? i think not, second place doesn't get anything! Bush also made a similar comment about USC being the "better team"...great Heisman showing, Bush..LOL...that outside running didn't work against a fast defense, maybe once out of how many tries?? should have kept the ball in Lendale's hands--he was the most effective running right up the gut.....punt the ball with 2 minutes left and USC would have retained the title. Texas would have had to drive at least 80 yards for the final score if USC would have punted...i was really surprised by Pete's decision on that call.......i do have to say that this was one of the best football games that i have ever witnessed in my life...and my 'Horns winning it just made it all that much sweeter................thank you Texas...Longview and Dallas crapped out on me, but you didn't...........my football season is over.....1 out 3 isn't too bad, i guess????:cool:

Hey - I got 2 (SLC & UT) out of 3 which is great. Only the Cowboys failed me this season. (Although it was great to beat the Eagles twice in the same season.)

[bleedgreen]

Hey - I got 2 (SLC & UT) out of 3 which is great. Only the Cowboys failed me this season. (Although it was great to beat the Eagles twice in the same season.)
yea, it's really funny to say this, but, i would trade a Longhorn national championship anyday for a Longview state title.......

[supercentex]

I read that Pete Carroll went over to the commentators from ABC when they were on the sidelines (Aaron Taylor, John Saunders, and Craig James) and said that they would be ok. Also read that he was on his cell phone to recruits during the game!

[supercentex]

From Thursday's LA Times..



In reply to:
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Just in case there was any doubt, USC Coach Pete Carroll is as cool on the sideline as he seems.

With Texas leading, 23-17, in the third quarter, Carroll spotted John Saunders and Aaron Taylor of ABC and Mark May of ESPN on the sidelines. He went over to them and said, "We're going to be fine."

Said Saunders: "What other coach would come over and say hello to three guys right in the middle of a national championship game?"

[supercentex]

I have read a few articles that said he was on a cell phone with recruits while on the field during the game. One even speculated it caused a TO to be called.

"Hey, come play for me. In a few hours, the media will be lambasting my play-calling, questioning my clock management. Uhhhh let me get back to you, number 10 for UT is making my defense look like the Village People."

[toonman]

yea, it's really funny to say this, but, i would trade a Longhorn national championship anyday for a Longview state title.......

I think I knew that. I guess that is why you bleed green and not burnt orange. I will say it now - best of luck to Longview in the '06 season. I will be watching the scores with much interest.

[bleedgreen]

I think I knew that. I guess that is why you bleed green and not burnt orange. I will say it now - best of luck to Longview in the '06 season. I will be watching the scores with much interest.
appreciate it, brother...don't look for much, though---we lost alot of seniors at valuable positions.....we will be playoff bound, of course, but not much further after that............

[Texasfrog]

Where else but Texas? You just won the NCAA championship and you thought enough to recognize Texas High School Football in your acceptance speech. Nothing but awesome. Says a lot about the coach. Texas. And where Texas High School Football ranks. Anyway, I thought it was a nice gesture.

That was a class act and a very good recruiting move. But, I do think it was Coach Brown saying, "thanks Texas high school football" because that's where this whole story begins. On the Texas high school football fields.