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KT2000
01-04-2006, 02:22 PM
2005 is now officially behind us, and I'll take an early look at what to look for in 2006. Just a few random thoughts as I've had a chance to review and look ahead.

First, 2005 will be remembered as a year dominated by the Metroplex in football. DFW schools swept both Class 5A (Euless Trinity and Southlake Carroll) and 4A championships (Highland Park and Lewisville Hebron).

This year, realignment is the first order of business and there are some significant moves being made around the state. Copperas Cove, Denton Ryan, Schertz Clemens and Waco are some of the notable programs set to move down. View the pinned TPX article at the top for more on that.

Let's talk about the defending champs...

Dragon Ball

Of course, the prominent story in Class 5A right now is the dominance of Southlake Carroll. Carroll is 63-1 since joining class 5A in 2002, and have captured three state championships since then. Todd Dodge's son, Riley (Jr. to be), will take over at QB this fall with classmate Tre' Newton by his side at RB. Riley is a tremendous athlete with very good speed/quickness. Restocking OL/WR is the primary need. Defensively, DE Kyle Russo and LB Justin Padron will be two of the leaders. Arius Ford is back in the secondary. I think it'd be very foolish to write off the Dragons in '06 even with the big turnover from a senior dominated 05 roster. They lost just as much after the 02 season and still made it back to state the next year. The Dragons will start '06 ranked in the top three without a doubt.

Trojans Here to Stay?

Trinity broke through for a state championship in 2005 with a very talented senior class led by MVP Dimitri Nance and QB Trevor Vittatoe. However, can the Trojans reload effectively enough to put up double digit wins again? Consistency is what separates good programs from great programs, and that will be the challenge for Trinity this year. Playing with the target of a state champion is no easy task, so the 06 Trojans will need to be extremely mentally tough (in addition to the physical talent) in order to make another run.

Hebron in 5A

4A Division II Champs Hebron are expected to make the jump to Class 5A when the realignment becomes official early next month. Brazil will take his troops to the 5A level this year, and their district alignment will obviously play a role in their chances for year one. They have some key players back from the championship squad like QB Brian Aubuchon and LB Max Blue.

Consolidated's "Taste of Texas"

A&M Consolidated posted an impressive 11-3 record in '05 reaching the state semis. Plenty of talent is back in 2006, and this could be a program to really look out for in the fall if they have a good off-season and summer. RB Daniel Palmer, WR-DB Detron Lewis, LB Drew Dudley and K Matt Szymanski are some of the main returning players. All are very talented and will likely be looking at Division 1 college offers this time next year. Consolidated got a taste of big time playoff football in 05, and we'll see if they can make it back or take the next step in 06.

Loaded in Lufkin

The Panthers lost to Southlake Carroll for the third time in the state semi-finals in 2005, but put up a very respectable 14-1 record. Basically, the entire offense is returning in 2006 as well as some key players on defense. QB Jeremy Claybon had a great year in 05 as a first year started before going down with an arm injury against Copperas Cove in the Region 2 championship game. Speedy RB Ja'Corey Turner returns along with top WRs Dez Bryant and Ralph Thomas. On defense; DL Randall Murphy, DL AJ Penson, LB Joe Jackson and DB Danquin Landry lead the crop of returning talent. 2006 looks like it could be a very promising year for Lufkin on paper, but there's obviously a lot of work to be done.

Back to Work at Permian

Coach Darrell Allman and his staff brought an impressive set of credentials to Permian when they began work there last year, and we'll see how things progress in year two. Hard work and discipline have been re-introduced to the Permian culture. I'll be keeping an eye on Permian's progress this year.

The K-Train Rolls into '06

Katy went 14-1 in 2005, captured a 7th Region 3 championship in nine years and lost to Carroll in the Division 2 State Championship. The Tigers need to reload both lines and find a new QB. However, the returning skill talent is very good. RB Aundre Dean (Jr. to be) will be the main man in the backfield with FB Taylor Stuckey. Dean rushed for near 800 yards as a sophomore while splitting time with a senior. Record setting WR Michael Fuda is also back. On defense, Katy doesn't look to miss much of a beat from '05. Junior to be DBs Trent Hunter and Terrance Henry are two of the top returning players along with DL Tyler Mueller and LB Ryan Williams.

North Side Monster?

When Spring Westfield made the state quarterfinals in 2001, some in the area claimed a sleeping giant had been woken up. Westfield is currently booming in population, and will graduate their most talented football class to date in May. Westfield and Euless Trinity are very similar in that regard. We'll find a little about out how deep the talent runs at these schools this year given what each has to replace.

Reclaiming the Throne?

North Shore ended the season with a loss to Westfield for the second year in a row, but look primed to continue their outstanding run of form as a program in 06. North Shore hasn't lost a regular season game since 2001. QB Vance Fizer looks set to take over the reigns on offense. Explosive RB Chris Gainious may be the top returning big play back in the state. If the Mustangs reload at DB (never seems to be a problem) during the off-season and summer...look out.

Ranger Pride

Canyon Lake High School will probably bump SV back down to class 4A in 2008, but we'll see if the Rangers can keep making deep runs in the meantime. SV will graduate many key seniors, but you can never underestimate a program like what Larry Hill has established at SV. The kids on campus right now only know winning. RB Trent Rios (jr. to be) and DE Matt Phister are two of the top returners.

Judson, Wagner and changing of the guard?

Converse Wagner starts their varsity football journey this year as a 5A school. When Wagner opened, many proclaimed the end of the Judson era in 5A due to the big enrollment hit. However, Judson didn't seem to pay attention to that talk in 05 as they pushed through a mediocre regular season by their standards and made it to the state championship game yet again. I don't think you can count out Judson in '06 either. Last year, Judson lost a lot on offense and this year it will be the defense that needs the most work in the off-season. Just based on initial impressions, it looks like San Antonio may be a little more open this year than normal with SV in reloading mode and Judson as an unknown (usually are on paper). O'Connor and Reagan are two area programs to keep tabs on this off-season and over the summer in my opinion.

The 'Cats are back?

Plano racked up 13 wins this year on their way to the Region 1 championship game with a senior laden group. They have to replace a lot of talent in '06, and they're obviously a program to watch after what they did in '05. Flash in the pan or a sign of what's to come?

Just some of the things that stick out to me right now. I still have a lot of research to do an information to gather before anything halfway accurate or concrete can be formed, but you know what they say about first impressions. ;)

Pack Daddy
01-04-2006, 03:11 PM
Lufkin vs Katy

Lufkin takes it in 2006!

Go Pack!

farmerfan
01-04-2006, 03:45 PM
KT
Hebron has only been playing varsity football since 2000 and Brazil is the only leader they have ever known.

BAMF cowboy
01-04-2006, 03:56 PM
thats some good stuff for a quick rundown, and i think your 'first impressions' will be pretty close by the beginning of next season. Lufkin has to be the favorites no doubt, as long as they dont meet SLC of course

KT2000
01-04-2006, 04:01 PM
KT
Hebron has only been playing varsity football since 2000 and Brazil is the only leader they have ever known.

Hey now, I don't let the facts get in the way of my "journalistic integrity" and I'll thank you to stay out of my damn business from this point forward. :D :D :D

farmerfan
01-04-2006, 04:09 PM
Hey now, I don't let the facts get away of my "journalistic integrity" and I'll thank you to stay out of my damn business from this point forward. :D :D :D


consider it done :)

KT2000
01-04-2006, 04:14 PM
That should read "in the way" and not away.

Seriously, thanks for the catch on that. I went back and read the DMN article on their title game and checked out their roster. They've got some well fed kids it looks like.

t00 playa
01-04-2006, 04:28 PM
North Shore will be back in 2006:eek:

farmerfan
01-04-2006, 04:48 PM
That should read "in the way" and not away.

Seriously, thanks for the catch on that. I went back and read the DMN article on their title game and checked out their roster. They've got some well fed kids it looks like.


They are stout. Their are 2 junior highs that feed into Hebron and Arbor Creek has won the 8th grade LISD city championship the last 3 years. Their freshman and JV teams were both undefeated this year, winning games pretty easily. Brazil was the DC at Lewisville from 92-98 and under him we always had a metroplex top 10 defense. I think it is safe to say Hebron will be making some deep playoff runs the next couple years.

gritty52
01-04-2006, 04:50 PM
Trinty's offensive line may be bigger and faster. They have a group of running backs moving up from a very good Jv team. Taggart will QB and don't quite know his skills, but here he has a good as arm as Trevor and reads Defenses better than Trevor. The defense will return I believe 6 starters from a squad that seemed to jell in the playoff's. Don't know how we will turn out, but I see the playoffs.

dragons08
01-04-2006, 05:02 PM
that anaylis about the dragons is pretty much right on the money, like you said dont count the dragons out yet

BandidoNB
01-05-2006, 12:02 AM
Converse Wagner? Wagner is not in Converse, TX sorry.

dragonsdaddy
01-05-2006, 08:06 AM
Converse Wagner? Wagner is not in Converse, TX sorry.
and keller fossil ridge isn't in keller either(ft worth). they are in the converse isd however, so they will be known as converse wagner.

KT2000
01-05-2006, 08:27 AM
Westfield's not technically in Spring either. Smithson Valley isn't in Spring Branch. North Shore isn't in Galena Park and Eisenhower's not in Aldine. Life is full of these conundrums (sp?).

rich_pack
01-05-2006, 08:31 AM
With Denton Ryan moving down, who will be in the district with SLC? Maybe the Eluess Trinity team?

Sakatha
01-05-2006, 08:52 AM
With Denton Ryan moving down, who will be in the district with SLC? Maybe the Eluess Trinity team?

Actually, 2 of their district brothers will be moving down most likely.. Fossil Ridge will as well..

So then... L.D. Bell and Trinity.

~DnM

lonny23
01-05-2006, 08:54 AM
and keller fossil ridge isn't in keller either(ft worth). they are in the converse isd however, so they will be known as converse wagner.
They are almost forced to say Converse Wagner. They're by Kirby, but Kirby Wagner just doesn't sound as good as the Converse name.

The problem is that it's the Judson ISD and we already have Judson HS. The only way to make it accurate is to change name of Judson HS to something else or call it Judson Wagner.

lonny23
01-05-2006, 08:55 AM
2005 is now officially behind us, and I'll take an early look at what to look for in 2006. Just a few random thoughts as I've had a chance to review and look ahead.

First, 2005 will be remembered as a year dominated by the Metroplex in football. DFW schools swept both Class 5A (Euless Trinity and Southlake Carroll) and 4A championships (Highland Park and Lewisville Hebron).

This year, realignment is the first order of business and there are some significant moves being made around the state. Copperas Cove, Denton Ryan, Schertz Clemens and Waco are some of the notable programs set to move down. View the pinned TPX article at the top for more on that.

Let's talk about the defending champs...

Dragon Ball

Of course, the prominent story in Class 5A right now is the dominance of Southlake Carroll. Carroll is 63-1 since joining class 5A in 2002, and have captured three state championships since then. Todd Dodge's son, Riley (Jr. to be), will take over at QB this fall with classmate Tre' Newton by his side at RB. Riley is a tremendous athlete with very good speed/quickness. Restocking OL/WR is the primary need. Defensively, DE Kyle Russo and LB Justin Padron will be two of the leaders. Arius Ford is back in the secondary. I think it'd be very foolish to write off the Dragons in '06 even with the big turnover from a senior dominated 05 roster. They lost just as much after the 02 season and still made it back to state the next year. The Dragons will start '06 ranked in the top three without a doubt.

Trojans Here to Stay?

Trinity broke through for a state championship in 2005 with a very talented senior class led by MVP Dimitri Nance and QB Trevor Vittatoe. However, can the Trojans reload effectively enough to put up double digit wins again? Consistency is what separates good programs from great programs, and that will be the challenge for Trinity this year. Playing with the target of a state champion is no easy task, so the 06 Trojans will need to be extremely mentally tough (in addition to the physical talent) in order to make another run.

Hebron in 5A

4A Division II Champs Hebron are expected to make the jump to Class 5A when the realignment becomes official early next month. Brazil will take his troops to the 5A level this year, and their district alignment will obviously play a role in their chances for year one. They have some key players back from the championship squad like QB Brian Aubuchon and LB Max Blue.

Consolidated's "Taste of Texas"

A&M Consolidated posted an impressive 11-3 record in '05 reaching the state semis. Plenty of talent is back in 2006, and this could be a program to really look out for in the fall if they have a good off-season and summer. RB Daniel Palmer, WR-DB Detron Lewis, LB Drew Dudley and K Matt Szymanski are some of the main returning players. All are very talented and will likely be looking at Division 1 college offers this time next year. Consolidated got a taste of big time playoff football in 05, and we'll see if they can make it back or take the next step in 06.

Loaded in Lufkin

The Panthers lost to Southlake Carroll for the third time in the state semi-finals in 2005, but put up a very respectable 14-1 record. Basically, the entire offense is returning in 2006 as well as some key players on defense. QB Jeremy Claybon had a great year in 05 as a first year started before going down with an arm injury against Copperas Cove in the Region 2 championship game. Speedy RB Ja'Corey Turner returns along with top WRs Dez Bryant and Ralph Thomas. On defense; DL Randall Murphy, DL AJ Penson, LB Joe Jackson and DB Danquin Landry lead the crop of returning talent. 2006 looks like it could be a very promising year for Lufkin on paper, but there's obviously a lot of work to be done.

Back to Work at Permian

Coach Darrell Allman and his staff brought an impressive set of credentials to Permian when they began work there last year, and we'll see how things progress in year two. Hard work and discipline have been re-introduced to the Permian culture. I'll be keeping an eye on Permian's progress this year.

The K-Train Rolls into '06

Katy went 14-1 in 2005, captured a 7th Region 3 championship in nine years and lost to Carroll in the Division 2 State Championship. The Tigers need to reload both lines and find a new QB. However, the returning skill talent is very good. RB Aundre Dean (Jr. to be) will be the main man in the backfield with FB Taylor Stuckey. Dean rushed for near 800 yards as a sophomore while splitting time with a senior. Record setting WR Michael Fuda is also back. On defense, Katy doesn't look to miss much of a beat from '05. Junior to be DBs Trent Hunter and Terrance Henry are two of the top returning players along with DL Tyler Mueller and LB Ryan Williams.

North Side Monster?

When Spring Westfield made the state quarterfinals in 2001, some in the area claimed a sleeping giant had been woken up. Westfield is currently booming in population, and will graduate their most talented football class to date in May. Westfield and Euless Trinity are very similar in that regard. We'll find a little about out how deep the talent runs at these schools this year given what each has to replace.

Reclaiming the Throne?

North Shore ended the season with a loss to Westfield for the second year in a row, but look primed to continue their outstanding run of form as a program in 06. North Shore hasn't lost a regular season game since 2001. QB Vance Fizer looks set to take over the reigns on offense. Explosive RB Chris Gainious may be the top returning big play back in the state. If the Mustangs reload at DB (never seems to be a problem) during the off-season and summer...look out.

Ranger Pride

Canyon Lake High School will probably bump SV back down to class 4A in 2008, but we'll see if the Rangers can keep making deep runs in the meantime. SV will graduate many key seniors, but you can never underestimate a program like what Larry Hill has established at SV. The kids on campus right now only know winning. RB Trent Rios (jr. to be) and DE Matt Phister are two of the top returners.

Judson, Wagner and changing of the guard?

Converse Wagner starts their varsity football journey this year as a 5A school. When Wagner opened, many proclaimed the end of the Judson era in 5A due to the big enrollment hit. However, Judson didn't seem to pay attention to that talk in 05 as they pushed through a mediocre regular season by their standards and made it to the state championship game yet again. I don't think you can count out Judson in '06 either. Last year, Judson lost a lot on offense and this year it will be the defense that needs the most work in the off-season. Just based on initial impressions, it looks like San Antonio may be a little more open this year than normal with SV in reloading mode and Judson as an unknown (usually are on paper). O'Connor and Reagan are two area programs to keep tabs on this off-season and over the summer in my opinion.

The 'Cats are back?

Plano racked up 13 wins this year on their way to the Region 1 championship game with a senior laden group. They have to replace a lot of talent in '06, and they're obviously a program to watch after what they did in '05. Flash in the pan or a sign of what's to come?

Just some of the things that stick out to me right now. I still have a lot of research to do an information to gather before anything halfway accurate or concrete can be formed, but you know what they say about first impressions. ;)
The offer is still on the table for that coveted #1 spot!:D

toonman
01-05-2006, 09:08 AM
Good job. That is why this is the best resource for 5A Football. Just when I was thinking that was nothing to discuss, here we go with KT2000 first impressions. I am going to read this a bit more, inwardly digest, then make a considered reply.

lonny23
01-05-2006, 09:26 AM
Good job. That is why this is the best resource for 5A Football. Just when I was thinking that was nothing to discuss, here we go with KT2000 first impressions. I am going to read this a bit more, inwardly digest, then make a considered reply.
We never run out of stuff to talk about in off-topic. I've come to the conclusion that we'll talk about anything and I mean ANYTHING!:D

LUFPAN
01-05-2006, 09:34 AM
If Cove is a loaded next year as they were this year, I would consider them a favorite if they are moved down to 4A. The Lufkin / Cove game was a physical beating for both teams.

CyFalls#1
01-05-2006, 09:54 AM
Don't forget about CyFalls. Returning 16 or 17 starters from a team that only really started to jell at the end of the year and into the playoffs - size/speed and skill position players are solid. Numerous D1 prospects on the roster.

District 17-5A showed its overall strength by racking up at least 6 wins in the '05 playoffs, with CyFair taking Westfield to the brink of elimination, and CyFalls beating a solid Katy team for 3 1/2 qtrs.

drgnbkr
01-05-2006, 10:37 AM
Westfield's not technically in Spring either. Smithson Valley isn't in Spring Branch. North Shore isn't in Galena Park and Eisenhower's not in Aldine. Life is full of these conundrums (sp?).

Carroll is not in South Lake, as many suggest...It is Southlake....Conundrum...? did ddaddy feed you that word?.:D

badger95
01-05-2006, 12:44 PM
Westlake loses a tremendous Sr. class from their 16-5A district championship team. Remember, this was the team that dominated A&M Cons. in week two of the season only to falter defensively in the first round of the playoffs vs. a speedy Pflugerville team.

They will return two of the top recruits in, not only the state, but the nation in QB Nick Foles and OL Matt Nader. Also returning in the backfield will be all-district RBs Max Minor and Jay Austin, along with OL Tory Dawson. Look for Brad Ballew to move over to offense permanently as a WR and back up QB Steven Shaffer to move to TE. This all should make for another potent Westlake Offense.

However, they will need to find some speed on defense if they are to truly challenge for a deep playoff run (especially if they stay in Region II). If they get they move back to their familiar Region IV, look for them to get back on track in '06.

c-lisle
01-05-2006, 03:46 PM
my first impression is depression. hey, maybe longview will be the one upsetting others this year.

Pack Daddy
01-05-2006, 04:18 PM
my first impression is depression. hey, maybe longview will be the one upsetting others this year.

Man, ya'll had a strong team this year and were picked. I miss the days of our District - the toughest District in State. The 1st playoff game is the hardest and anything can happen. Remember it happened to us in 2002 (?). By the way ya'll also got one of our best (fine too! hubba, hubba) Principals this year. We want her back! Gimme, gimme gimme. Ha!

Pack Daddy
01-05-2006, 04:19 PM
Carroll is not in South Lake, as many suggest...It is Southlake....Conundrum...? did ddaddy feed you that word?.:D

On Carroll St? Right?

c-lisle
01-05-2006, 04:33 PM
Man, ya'll had a strong team this year and were picked. I miss the days of our District - the toughest District in State. The 1st playoff game is the hardest and anything can happen. Remember it happened to us in 2002 (?). By the way ya'll also got one of our best (fine too! hubba, hubba) Principals this year. We want her back! Gimme, gimme gimme. Ha!

we were upset in 2003 also....BY THE SAME TEAM. I didn't know we had a new principal. Maybe Outlaw will come on over next. LOL

PackAttack2005
01-05-2006, 07:36 PM
Rclisle41, I have it on good authority( Coach Outlaw), that if Lufkin is put into a 8 team district next season ( a high probability) we are going to play Nacogdoches, Longview and Aldine Eisenhower in that order for non-district in 2006.

On another note, we had Nacogdoches over looking at the Lufkin Indoor practice facility this week, they were impressed. Some Longview people are also coming over next week to take a look at the facility.

How good everyone will be is going to depend on where everyone ends up after re-alignment in February.

alnegle07
01-05-2006, 09:26 PM
allen high school will be a gooden in 2006 with a lot of returning key players like dick and charlie O, and alot of talent coming up!

c-lisle
01-06-2006, 07:06 AM
Rclisle41, I have it on good authority( Coach Outlaw), that if Lufkin is put into a 8 team district next season ( a high probability) we are going to play Nacogdoches, Longview and Aldine Eisenhower in that order for non-district in 2006.

On another note, we had Nacogdoches over looking at the Lufkin Indoor practice facility this week, they were impressed. Some Longview people are also coming over next week to take a look at the facility.

How good everyone will be is going to depend on where everyone ends up after re-alignment in February.

That is good to hear. I would love to see us play every year.

c-lisle
01-06-2006, 09:37 AM
Rclisle41, I have it on good authority( Coach Outlaw), that if Lufkin is put into a 8 team district next season ( a high probability) we are going to play Nacogdoches, Longview and Aldine Eisenhower in that order for non-district in 2006.

On another note, we had Nacogdoches over looking at the Lufkin Indoor practice facility this week, they were impressed. Some Longview people are also coming over next week to take a look at the facility.

How good everyone will be is going to depend on where everyone ends up after re-alignment in February.

So what if you don't go into a 8 team district? Would that change whether you play Longview?

pack0808
01-06-2006, 09:51 AM
Rclisle41, I have it on good authority( Coach Outlaw), that if Lufkin is put into a 8 team district next season ( a high probability) we are going to play Nacogdoches, Longview and Aldine Eisenhower in that order for non-district in 2006.

On another note, we had Nacogdoches over looking at the Lufkin Indoor practice facility this week, they were impressed. Some Longview people are also coming over next week to take a look at the facility.

How good everyone will be is going to depend on where everyone ends up after re-alignment in February.


What? I thought Lufkin was done with Ike? Outlaw said it would be the last time he played them after the game this year? If Lufkin and Longview are not in the same district they should not play until the playoffs. Both teams have a duty to make it to the game. ;) Besides, I hate playing the same team twice in one year. Lufkin and Longview have met two times in the last 4 years in the playoffs. I wish they would get rid of the Nac game ( do not care if it is the oldest rivalry in Texas) and get rid of the Ike series. (They are not competitive with Lufkin anymore) I would hate this non district schedule if it happens but i guess i will live. I would love to see a NS vs Lufkin matchup for a few years.

drgnbkr
01-06-2006, 11:25 AM
On Carroll St? Right?

The senior high is on 1709-Southlake Blvd. The huge sign listing all of the State Titles is 2 years out of date..& will need to be enlarged with all the titles that need to be added...Cross Country, Golf, 2 more football championships etc.....

Slim-Rob
01-06-2006, 07:06 PM
Wagner is not in Converse. It is in San Antonio on Foster road.

Wagner should have a pretty good team next year, as should Judson. Judson's weak link right now seems to be the O-Line and D-Line, but the coaches will work hard to find replacements for all the talent we lost.

JRocketMan
01-06-2006, 07:25 PM
Converse Judson will be a very strong team this year. They did lose good players on both sides of the ball, but they do have an excellent core ready to fill the gaps.As the defense really carried the team last year.This years team should be much more balanced.Wagner will do ok their first year out, but theyll go thru the growing pains, like most new programs.

dragonsdaddy
01-07-2006, 08:40 AM
The senior high is on 1709-Southlake Blvd. The huge sign listing all of the State Titles is 2 years out of date..& will need to be enlarged with all the titles that need to be added...Cross Country, Golf, 2 more football championships etc.....
it is disgusting to be more than a year and now 4-5 state championships behind the times. are there any other schools that would be so lackadaisical about winning state championships as to go years not proclaiming them?

drgnbkr
01-07-2006, 09:30 AM
it is disgusting to be more than a year and now 4-5 state championships behind the times. are there any other schools that would be so lackadaisical about winning state championships as to go years not proclaiming them?
Who maintains that sign? We could go use spray paint...:D

toonman
01-08-2006, 12:20 PM
Who maintains that sign? We could go use spray paint...:D

I went through Boyd on Thursday and they have the 2004 2A State Championship on the water tower. Yet SLC cannot find the time (&money?) to add the 2004 Football State Championship to the Honors Board. (In addition, that Honors Board does not have much room to add any more Championships.)

DragonBand06
01-08-2006, 12:35 PM
On Carroll St? Right?
Actually only Johnson Elementary is on Carroll Ave.

Slim-Rob
01-08-2006, 02:47 PM
and keller fossil ridge isn't in keller either(ft worth). they are in the converse isd however, so they will be known as converse wagner.

They are in Judson ISD. That doesn't mean they will be known as The Judson Wagner Thunderbirds.

I think they will be San Antonio Wagner

Slim-Rob
01-08-2006, 02:49 PM
it is disgusting to be more than a year and now 4-5 state championships behind the times. are there any other schools that would be so lackadaisical about winning state championships as to go years not proclaiming them?

After Judson won in 02, they put 03 up on the signs and pressbox.