I Hate Espn

[lonny23]

I'm tired of all the bias crap that they force-feed down people's throats. The part that bothers me so much is that the average public is too stupid to think for themselves and not listen to these guys. They give us Yankees-Red Sox until we want to puke (and I don't care what Farmerfan or Yankeeman think about it because I know most of us hate both teams because of Fox and ESPN) and it's always about how they're marketing themselves. They play the movies and specials about 15 million times, but they pushed me over the top last night. ABC owns ESPN and they're always pushing the ABC stuff nowadays.

I was hollering and wanted to throw something at the TV when I was watching the top 10 games of the year special on ESPN. They made sure title-bound Texas checked in at #5 for last year's Rose Bowl and that's cool because it was a big game and a good game. They robbed the Astros when they said the 18 inning game was #2 and I hollered out, "what's better than that game?" The #1 game of the year was USC-Notre Dame. That's total garbage, but they're doing it because they're always riding USC and ND's jocks and both teams conveniently play in BCS bowls on ABC. It's nowhere close to being accurate journalism on that channel anymore.:mad:

[mad_fan]

I'm tired of all the bias crap that they force-feed down people's throats. The part that bothers me so much is that the average public is too stupid to think for themselves and not listen to these guys. They give us Yankees-Red Sox until we want to puke (and I don't care what Farmerfan or Yankeeman think about it because I know most of us hate both teams because of Fox and ESPN) and it's always about how they're marketing themselves. They play the movies and specials about 15 million times, but they pushed me over the top last night. ABC owns ESPN and they're always pushing the ABC stuff nowadays.

I was hollering and wanted to throw something at the TV when I was watching the top 10 games of the year special on ESPN. They made sure title-bound Texas checked in at #5 for last year's Rose Bowl and that's cool because it was a big game and a good game. They robbed the Astros when they said the 18 inning game was #2 and I hollered out, "what's better than that game?" The #1 game of the year was USC-Notre Dame. That's total garbage, but they're doing it because they're always riding USC and ND's jocks and both teams conveniently play in BCS bowls on ABC. It's nowhere close to being accurate journalism on that channel anymore.:mad:


It's the same as the broadcast news (NBC, etc)!!

I posted right after you...I must be YOU.:p (applied Lonny-ism)

[lonny23]

It's the same as the broadcast news (NBC, etc)!!

I posted right after you...I must be YOU.:p (applied Lonny-ism)
Yes it is. I was doing this rant about 5 hours ago before I watched the Cotton Bowl. It's just like politics and the various news shows.

[AZTiger]

Lonny I feel ya, when I saw this at the bar I was like "NUMBER TWO???? YOU"RE SHITTIN ME!!!"

[GoOwls]

You're dead solid perfect on your analysis on this one, for sure, Lonny. What gets advertized is what sells, and what people want to hear, and what advertises their network, and what furthers the "powers that be'" own political affiliation.

News is getting to be more and more entertainment and editorial, than news as the days go by.

ESPN, like OU, at 3:03 PM, still suck. (that's for you Wide)

[BAMF cowboy]

It's true, we recently learned about it in government (i think). News these days is about ratings and money. How do you get those? Get people to watch. How do you get people to watch...get stories that interest them. News is entertainment in this day and age.

[BAMF cowboy]

and they'll rip apart stories for all they're worth until they find something new.

[farmerfan]

I'm tired of all the bias crap that they force-feed down people's throats. The part that bothers me so much is that the average public is too stupid to think for themselves and not listen to these guys. They give us Yankees-Red Sox until we want to puke (and I don't care what Farmerfan or Yankeeman think about it because I know most of us hate both teams because of Fox and ESPN) and it's always about how they're marketing themselves. They play the movies and specials about 15 million times, but they pushed me over the top last night. ABC owns ESPN and they're always pushing the ABC stuff nowadays.

I was hollering and wanted to throw something at the TV when I was watching the top 10 games of the year special on ESPN. They made sure title-bound Texas checked in at #5 for last year's Rose Bowl and that's cool because it was a big game and a good game. They robbed the Astros when they said the 18 inning game was #2 and I hollered out, "what's better than that game?" The #1 game of the year was USC-Notre Dame. That's total garbage, but they're doing it because they're always riding USC and ND's jocks and both teams conveniently play in BCS bowls on ABC. It's nowhere close to being accurate journalism on that channel anymore.:mad:

The reason you hear about Red Sox yankees is because right now two of the top teams in the league. Factor in the rivlary and how they have played 68 games against each other the last 3 years with it being as even as you could ask then it will continue to be talked about. There is a reason you didnt hear abotu Red Sox/yankees from 2000-2002 or from 1979-1998. It is good for baseball and it has lived up to its billing.
As far as the Astro game you want number 1. It was not a great game for the 1st 7.5 innings. Atlanta was crusing and many people had turned off the game when Atlanta was up 6-1 in the late innings. The SC/ND game was back and forth all game with no team ever enjoying a comfortable lead. We all complain about ESPN but we are what made them into the monster they have become. In Texas we fill like we dont get any attention and they are biased towards other parts of the country, well when there is a story worth reporting in Texas they will do it. When this part ofthe country has something as exciting as Red Sox/yankees then they will report on it because lets face it the Silver Boot does not sell tickets or have any good stories involved.
If you remember up until this year, Texas/OU was ESPN's favorite college game to come to, go back and read the archives. Herbstreit, Corso and Fowler all said how it was the best atmosphere in college football and repetedly sang its praises.
I just love to hear people ***** about Red Sox/yankees like it just started 3 years ago. These two clubs have a history that dates back longer than any other franchise in professional sports. What would you have ESPN do, report on teams that suck and lose and totally dismiss playoff series or championship games?

[lonny23]

The reason you hear about Red Sox yankees is because right now two of the top teams in the league. Factor in the rivlary and how they have played 68 games against each other the last 3 years with it being as even as you could ask then it will continue to be talked about. There is a reason you didnt hear abotu Red Sox/yankees from 2000-2002 or from 1979-1998. It is good for baseball and it has lived up to its billing.
As far as the Astro game you want number 1. It was not a great game for the 1st 7.5 innings. Atlanta was crusing and many people had turned off the game when Atlanta was up 6-1 in the late innings. The SC/ND game was back and forth all game with no team ever enjoying a comfortable lead. We all complain about ESPN but we are what made them into the monster they have become. In Texas we fill like we dont get any attention and they are biased towards other parts of the country, well when there is a story worth reporting in Texas they will do it. When this part ofthe country has something as exciting as Red Sox/yankees then they will report on it because lets face it the Silver Boot does not sell tickets or have any good stories involved.
If you remember up until this year, Texas/OU was ESPN's favorite college game to come to, go back and read the archives. Herbstreit, Corso and Fowler all said how it was the best atmosphere in college football and repetedly sang its praises.
I just love to hear people ***** about Red Sox/yankees like it just started 3 years ago. These two clubs have a history that dates back longer than any other franchise in professional sports. What would you have ESPN do, report on teams that suck and lose and totally dismiss playoff series or championship games?
I wouldn't be talking about Red Sox-Yankees if it was just from the last 3 years. ESPN has had baseball since the late 80's and has always catered to the Dodgers and Giants on the West coast, but heavily to the Yankees and Red Sox. They're from Connecticut and employ Peter Gammons, who is a Boston guy. They have always confused what the local people around Bristol, Connecticut want with what everybody else wants. Hey, I've watched the Yankees-Red Sox playoff games, but I think it's a joke they put April games on Fox when they wouldn't think twice about doing it for somebody else. Both teams have a huge fanbase, but they put those guys on so much that we get turned off. I used to actually root for the Red Sox a little until they got overexposed.

Anyway, this thread is about hating ESPN. Go to baseball if you want to talk about the Red Sox!:D

[farmerfan]

I wouldn't be talking about Red Sox-Yankees if it was just from the last 3 years. ESPN has had baseball since the late 80's and has always catered to the Dodgers and Giants on the West coast, but heavily to the Yankees and Red Sox. They're from Connecticut and employ Peter Gammons, who is a Boston guy. They have always confused what the local people around Bristol, Connecticut want with what everybody else wants. Hey, I've watched the Yankees-Red Sox playoff games, but I think it's a joke they put April games on Fox when they wouldn't think twice about doing it for somebody else. Both teams have a huge fanbase, but they put those guys on so much that we get turned off. I used to actually root for the Red Sox a little until they got overexposed.

Anyway, this thread is about hating ESPN. Go to baseball if you want to talk about the Red Sox!:D


man dont play this off on me lonny, you mentioned Red Sox and should know by now that is enough to get me firing on all cylinders. :D

[farmerfan]

I wouldn't be talking about Red Sox-Yankees if it was just from the last 3 years. ESPN has had baseball since the late 80's and has always catered to the Dodgers and Giants on the West coast, but heavily to the Yankees and Red Sox. They're from Connecticut and employ Peter Gammons, who is a Boston guy. They have always confused what the local people around Bristol, Connecticut want with what everybody else wants. Hey, I've watched the Yankees-Red Sox playoff games, but I think it's a joke they put April games on Fox when they wouldn't think twice about doing it for somebody else. Both teams have a huge fanbase, but they put those guys on so much that we get turned off. I used to actually root for the Red Sox a little until they got overexposed.

Anyway, this thread is about hating ESPN. Go to baseball if you want to talk about the Red Sox!:D


As far as coverage goes, there is no one in the business better than Gammons. I dont care if he is a Boston boy or not, he does a great job of not providing a bias. As far as the early game on Fox, it was after that epic 7 game series in 2003. It kept America involved when the whole A-Rod debacle took place and he wound up in ny and not Boston.
They also have done their fair share of games in Arlington or Houston its just that those games dont sell out and they have to be blacked out. Teams such as the Cardinals, Cubs, Braves, Angels, Giants and more have all got plenty of exposure. Just wait and see if Boston or ny were to have a bad year this year then their attention would start to fade. I guess I will take you not liking us anymore as a compliment seeing as with winning you get exposure and in your words if we are getting overexposed it must mean we are winning games and championships, something the ball clubs in Texas would know nothing about. :D

[GoOwls]

The reason you hear about Red Sox yankees is because right now two of the top teams in the league. Factor in the rivlary and how they have played 68 games against each other the last 3 years with it being as even as you could ask then it will continue to be talked about. There is a reason you didnt hear abotu Red Sox/yankees from 2000-2002 or from 1979-1998. It is good for baseball and it has lived up to its billing.
As far as the Astro game you want number 1. It was not a great game for the 1st 7.5 innings. Atlanta was crusing and many people had turned off the game when Atlanta was up 6-1 in the late innings. The SC/ND game was back and forth all game with no team ever enjoying a comfortable lead. We all complain about ESPN but we are what made them into the monster they have become. In Texas we fill like we dont get any attention and they are biased towards other parts of the country, well when there is a story worth reporting in Texas they will do it. When this part ofthe country has something as exciting as Red Sox/yankees then they will report on it because lets face it the Silver Boot does not sell tickets or have any good stories involved.
If you remember up until this year, Texas/OU was ESPN's favorite college game to come to, go back and read the archives. Herbstreit, Corso and Fowler all said how it was the best atmosphere in college football and repetedly sang its praises.
I just love to hear people ***** about Red Sox/yankees like it just started 3 years ago. These two clubs have a history that dates back longer than any other franchise in professional sports. What would you have ESPN do, report on teams that suck and lose and totally dismiss playoff series or championship games?

The Yankees are one of the two best teams in the league? When was the last time they won a world title? Who has won the World Series or American League championsihp since they did and don't get but a fraction of the press? With the Yankees it's all about being from New York, the the over-the-top payroll, the big names, the star power, the history, Steinbrenner, and very little to do with recent on-the-field performance.

Remember the blue and red political map of the electorial vote the last election and how the Dems. won the East and far West and the Reps. won the middle. The Dems won very little total land area, but still got a bunch of electorial votes. The population is still concentrated on the east and west coasts and the news and sports networks obviously cater to that audience.

[AZTiger]

f'ing new england snobbiness in full effect here

Gammons is the man though, no one does it better

[farmerfan]

The Yankees are one of the two best teams in the league? When was the last time they won a world title? Who has won the World Series or American League championsihp since they did and don't get but a fraction of the press? With the Yankees it's all about being from New York, the the over-the-top payroll, the big names, the star power, the history, Steinbrenner, and very little to do with recent on-the-field performance.

Remember the blue and red political map of the electorial vote the last election and how the Dems. won the East and far West and the Reps. won the middle. The Dems won very little total land area, but still got a bunch of electorial votes. The population is still concentrated on the east and west coasts and the news and sports networks obviously cater to that audience.

The yankees are two years removed from a pennant. They are only 5 years removed from a world title and trust me it pains me to say that. When you think MLB you think yankees. When you think the greatest sports franchise ever unfortunately you think yankees. It wasnt but 6 years ago they won 115 games sweeping the Padres in the World Series. As much as I dont want to admit it their on the field performance has been better than anything that Houston or Texas has done. Boston and ny have been the best thing that could have happend to baseball over the last 3 years. It has brought a audience back to baseball and got people interested again.
Do you think they are wrong because they cater to the majority of the population? If you hate ESPN during the college football season or mlb season then order the direct ticket and watch the market of your choice. Its not hard to ignore them.

[farmerfan]

f'ing new england snobbiness in full effect here

Gammons is the man though, no one does it better


how is there any snobbiness being shown? its hard to run from the facts over the last few years and over that time the Sox and yankees have deserved every bit of attention they have received.

[wide-e-wide]

It's just a fact that the Yankees are going to get a lot of attention every year...People might as well get used to that.

I love it...

It just means that when the Yankees suck...the spotlight is still on them for the whole world to see.

[dragonfan22]

well just a couple weeks ago they showed the cubs curse ..and how it got started and everything before and after that..it was quite exciting...
they should be talking about the white sox since they had the best playoff record in history...(haha im a CUBS FAN..98 LONG HARD YEARSSS):D

[GoOwls]

The yankees are two years removed from a pennant. They are only 5 years removed from a world title and trust me it pains me to say that. When you think MLB you think yankees. When you think the greatest sports franchise ever unfortunately you think yankees. It wasnt but 6 years ago they won 115 games sweeping the Padres in the World Series. As much as I dont want to admit it their on the field performance has been better than anything that Houston or Texas has done. Boston and ny have been the best thing that could have happend to baseball over the last 3 years. It has brought a audience back to baseball and got people interested again.
Do you think they are wrong because they cater to the majority of the population? If you hate ESPN during the college football season or mlb season then order the direct ticket and watch the market of your choice. Its not hard to ignore them.

I don't hate them.....in fact....I watch regularly....I just accept their bias and try to "seperate the seeds from the chaf", so to speak. I watch a number of their shows, and to ignore the bias of most of the on-air personalities, is to live a life with blinders and ear plugs.

I will never PAY for sports.....period. The first Super Bowl to go "pay-per-view" will be the first one I don't watch.

[Primetime536]

I'm tired of all the bias crap that they force-feed down people's throats. The part that bothers me so much is that the average public is too stupid to think for themselves and not listen to these guys. They give us Yankees-Red Sox until we want to puke (and I don't care what Farmerfan or Yankeeman think about it because I know most of us hate both teams because of Fox and ESPN) and it's always about how they're marketing themselves. They play the movies and specials about 15 million times, but they pushed me over the top last night. ABC owns ESPN and they're always pushing the ABC stuff nowadays.

I was hollering and wanted to throw something at the TV when I was watching the top 10 games of the year special on ESPN. They made sure title-bound Texas checked in at #5 for last year's Rose Bowl and that's cool because it was a big game and a good game. They robbed the Astros when they said the 18 inning game was #2 and I hollered out, "what's better than that game?" The #1 game of the year was USC-Notre Dame. That's total garbage, but they're doing it because they're always riding USC and ND's jocks and both teams conveniently play in BCS bowls on ABC. It's nowhere close to being accurate journalism on that channel anymore.:mad:
I never though i would hear someone complain about too much Yankee-Redsox rivalry.This is THE best rivalry in all of sports. Ratings are up when the sox and yanks face off in a classic ALCS, whether boone hits a walk off in game 7 or if the sox come from 3 games down,,,,,,when the sox and yanks play,,,its a classic looking for a place to happen.

[Tut]

ESPN's announcers think they are the show.:mad:

They often ramble about irrelevent stuff while a game is going on and obviously are not paying attention. If they are, my eyesight must be worse than I think as their commentary seems flat out wrong. In the studio, accuracy and substance take a back seat to attempts at obnoxious cleverness. I don't turn it on nearly as much as I used to and sometimes mute the audio as it is too painful for my ears.

Aside from that and questionable "sports" programming, it's wonderful.:confused:

[lonny23]

I never though i would hear someone complain about too much Yankee-Redsox rivalry.This is THE best rivalry in all of sports. Ratings are up when the sox and yanks face off in a classic ALCS, whether boone hits a walk off in game 7 or if the sox come from 3 games down,,,,,,when the sox and yanks play,,,its a classic looking for a place to happen.
I wasn't complaining about the Boston-NY Red Sox playoffs series in the previous posts. I watched those series and they were good games. I was talking about showing opening week games on Fox in 2004 and 2005. I know they're trying to get more ratings, but those games can't and won't draw like a playoff game. I bet they don't do it this year.

I didn't say it before, but it chaps my hide that the guys on ESPN almost completely ignored the NLCS in 2004 at the expense of Boston-New York. That's what started making me tired of Boston. 2005 finished it off. I wanted Boston to win the Series in 2004 after Houston got beat. I was tired of the Yankees long before Boston.

It's not really the number of times each team is on TV as much as it's the stupid features they come up with for the teams on Sportscenter. That's where the bias is in full force. I know a bunch of teams get shown on ESPN and we get good regional games on Fox. I watch Houston and Texas, but I'm force-fed the Yankees and Red Sox during the year nightly on ESPN, even when they don't play each other.

[farmerfan]

I wasn't complaining about the Boston-NY Red Sox playoffs series in the previous posts. I watched those series and they were good games. I was talking about showing opening week games on Fox in 2004 and 2005. I know they're trying to get more ratings, but those games can't and won't draw like a playoff game. I bet they don't do it this year.

I didn't say it before, but it chaps my hide that the guys on ESPN almost completely ignored the NLCS in 2004 at the expense of Boston-New York. That's what started making me tired of Boston. 2005 finished it off. I wanted Boston to win the Series in 2004 after Houston got beat. I was tired of the Yankees long before Boston.

It's not really the number of times each team is on TV as much as it's the stupid features they come up with for the teams on Sportscenter. That's where the bias is in full force. I know a bunch of teams get shown on ESPN and we get good regional games on Fox. I watch Houston and Texas, but I'm force-fed the Yankees and Red Sox during the year nightly on ESPN, even when they don't play each other.

Lonny the only April game they played on Fox was in 2004. In fact, it was a friday night game. Usually on Friday nights people arent watching baseball in April. However it was the highest rated regular season game in the history of Fox. Why? because they were coming off that epic 2003 series in which a repeat of 78 was seen as well as fire works such as that of Fisk/Munson and Bill Lee were more evident than ever. In 2005, they opened up on a sunday, they wre the first game of the year. No other team played ball on that sunday night. It was a ESPN game. It was big because Randy Johnson was going up against David Wells. They also started out because of the way the 2004 LCS ended.

As far as being upset because of the attnetion they got over the Cardinals/Astros. Lets face it, the drama going on between Boston/ny was a little more intense than it was in Houston/St Louis. Starting off in game 4 when Dave Roberts has to steal a base and Billy Muller drives him in for the tying run in the bottom of the 9th. Or the fact that Rueben Sierra was literally inches away from ending the game in the top of the 10th, however it was a ground rule double and the runner on 1st had to stop at 3rd. Factor in the game going to the bottome of the 12th were Ortiz wins the game blasting a HR into right field.
Or the following day where Boston won in 14 on another Ortiz game winning hit, once again tying the game in the late innings off of the immortal Mariano Riveria. Then there was game 6 with Curt Schilling and the bloody sock in yankee stadium of all places, factor in the gay-rod purse slap and once again some more drama that was awesome. The miracle was completed the following day by destroying the yankees in game 7. Coming down from an 0-3 defecit especially when it is the Red Sox doing it to the yankees thats a little bigger than what was going on in St Louis. Had St Louis/Houston played a epic 7 game series the previous year then there would have been a little more attention. If you remember both Boston and the Chicago Cubs were both outs away from going to the World Series in 2003, the Cubs got just as much attention as Boston did.
The attention comes when teams start to win. Houston started to get some love this year when the Cardinals and Astros squared away again in the NLCS. In fact they got more attention than Chicago/Anaheim did. All it takes is to be a winner and not only will America take notice but so will ESPN. You can't fault ESPN for providing the rest of America with what they want and over the last 3 years in Baseball that has been Boston/ny.

[lonny23]

Lonny the only April game they played on Fox was in 2004. In fact, it was a friday night game. Usually on Friday nights people arent watching baseball in April. However it was the highest rated regular season game in the history of Fox. Why? because they were coming off that epic 2003 series in which a repeat of 78 was seen as well as fire works such as that of Fisk/Munson and Bill Lee were more evident than ever. In 2005, they opened up on a sunday, they wre the first game of the year. No other team played ball on that sunday night. It was a ESPN game. It was big because Randy Johnson was going up against David Wells. They also started out because of the way the 2004 LCS ended.

As far as being upset because of the attnetion they got over the Cardinals/Astros. Lets face it, the drama going on between Boston/ny was a little more intense than it was in Houston/St Louis. Starting off in game 4 when Dave Roberts has to steal a base and Billy Muller drives him in for the tying run in the bottom of the 9th. Or the fact that Rueben Sierra was literally inches away from ending the game in the top of the 10th, however it was a ground rule double and the runner on 1st had to stop at 3rd. Factor in the game going to the bottome of the 12th were Ortiz wins the game blasting a HR into right field.
Or the following day where Boston won in 14 on another Ortiz game winning hit, once again tying the game in the late innings off of the immortal Mariano Riveria. Then there was game 6 with Curt Schilling and the bloody sock in yankee stadium of all places, factor in the gay-rod purse slap and once again some more drama that was awesome. The miracle was completed the following day by destroying the yankees in game 7. Coming down from an 0-3 defecit especially when it is the Red Sox doing it to the yankees thats a little bigger than what was going on in St Louis. Had St Louis/Houston played a epic 7 game series the previous year then there would have been a little more attention. If you remember both Boston and the Chicago Cubs were both outs away from going to the World Series in 2003, the Cubs got just as much attention as Boston did.
The attention comes when teams start to win. Houston started to get some love this year when the Cardinals and Astros squared away again in the NLCS. In fact they got more attention than Chicago/Anaheim did. All it takes is to be a winner and not only will America take notice but so will ESPN. You can't fault ESPN for providing the rest of America with what they want and over the last 3 years in Baseball that has been Boston/ny.
I agree the drama was there late in that NY-Bos series, but they started out glossing over that series before Game 1 was ever played. Hou-StL got more love this year, but I think that's because the also-rans in LA and Chi were playing each other and niether Bos or NY were there.

[farmerfan]

I agree the drama was there late in that NY-Bos series, but they started out glossing over that series before Game 1 was ever played. Hou-StL got more love this year, but I think that's because the also-rans in LA and Chi were playing each other and niether Bos or NY were there.


Had Boston/ny met for a third time, they would have deserved the attention they got. When you play each other in the championship series for the 3rd straight year with the previous two years going the full 7 games including one series that saw the Boston Red Sox take 4 straight from the ny yankees after falling down 0-3. Also when was the last time someone wrote a book on the rivalry that is Cardinals and Astros? how many times have Cardinals/Astros provided the drama that Red Sox yankees has? Like I said in 2003 the Cubs/Marlins got just as much attention as Boston/ny did. You can't fault these networks for going with the old baseball franchises especially when one has not won a title in 86 years and is in the process of coming back from a 0-3 defecit to top the team with the most world championships in all of pro sports.

[lonny23]

Had Boston/ny met for a third time, they would have deserved the attention they got. When you play each other in the championship series for the 3rd straight year with the previous two years going the full 7 games including one series that saw the Boston Red Sox take 4 straight from the ny yankees after falling down 0-3. Also when was the last time someone wrote a book on the rivalry that is Cardinals and Astros? how many times have Cardinals/Astros provided the drama that Red Sox yankees has? Like I said in 2003 the Cubs/Marlins got just as much attention as Boston/ny did. You can't fault these networks for going with the old baseball franchises especially when one has not won a title in 86 years and is in the process of coming back from a 0-3 defecit to top the team with the most world championships in all of pro sports.
OK, I'll stop by saying they like to talk about popular teams.

[yankee]

The Yankees are one of the two best teams in the league? When was the last time they won a world title? Who has won the World Series or American League championsihp since they did and don't get but a fraction of the press? With the Yankees it's all about being from New York, the the over-the-top payroll, the big names, the star power, the history, Steinbrenner, and very little to do with recent on-the-field performance.
Remember the blue and red political map of the electorial vote the last election and how the Dems. won the East and far West and the Reps. won the middle. The Dems won very little total land area, but still got a bunch of electorial votes. The population is still concentrated on the east and west coasts and the news and sports networks obviously cater to that audience.
on the field performance? last time i checked, the yankees have won the al east something like 8 years in a row. if that isnt good on the field performance, than i dont know what is.
On the field performance? How about MVP of the American League, Comeback player of the year, runner up rookie of the year, and rolaids relief man of the year, 2005 gold glove shortstop. looks to me like the yankees are doing something right "on the field"

[GoOwls]

on the field performance? last time i checked, the yankees have won the al east something like 8 years in a row. if that isnt good on the field performance, than i dont know what is.
On the field performance? How about MVP of the American League, Comeback player of the year, runner up rookie of the year, and rolaids relief man of the year, 2005 gold glove shortstop. looks to me like the yankees are doing something right "on the field"

SHOW ME THE RINGS.

For all the money the Yankees spend, winning the east is the least of their concerns. For all that cash, you better at least get to the World Series, if not win it. Anything else, for all that cash, should be unacceptable. Hence, my comment on the lack of on the field accomplishments.

[dragonfootballfan]

SHOW ME THE RINGS.

For all the money the Yankees spend, winning the east is the least of their concerns. For all that cash, you better at least get to the World Series, if not win it. Anything else, for all that cash, should be unacceptable. Hence, my comment on the lack of on the field accomplishments.
So I guess winning the world series 26 times is not good enough?

[yankee]

So I guess winning the world series 26 times is not good enough?
ha. he obviously has forgotten about all those rings.

[dragons08]

ha. he obviously has forgotten about all those rings.
you should send him a picture of that one yankee shirt you wear hahahaha "got rings?"

[farmerfan]

you should send him a picture of that one yankee shirt you wear hahahaha "got rings?"


There was a shirt I saw at Fenway this past summer similar to that and maybe was that shirt. It was something like a picture of 26 rings compared to 6 and said something to the extent of Got Rings?

[dragons08]

There was a shirt I saw at Fenway this past summer similar to that and maybe was that shirt. It was something like a picture of 26 rings compared to 6 and said something to the extent of Got Rings?
thatd be it

[farmerfan]

thatd be it


OK, i saw that at the Sunday night game. I was about 10 rows up from the field along the first base line halfway between the Sox dugout and Pesky's pole. This yankee fan was cracking me up, he kept ripping us becasue Al Lieter was shutting us down that night.
I saw another shirt that said you can take your 26 rings on the front and on back said you can shove em up your a$$.

I got a reaction out of my Giambi sucks shirt I wore around Boston one afternoon. It was the shirt that has the two I's in Giambi as steriod needles.

[dragons08]

OK, i saw that at the Sunday night game. I was about 10 rows up from the field along the first base line halfway between the Sox dugout and Pesky's pole. This yankee fan was cracking me up, he kept ripping us becasue Al Lieter was shutting us down that night.
I saw another shirt that said you can take your 26 rings on the front and on back said you can shove em up your a$$.

I got a reaction out of my Giambi sucks shirt I wore around Boston one afternoon. It was the shirt that has the two I's in Giambi as steriod needles.
hahaha thats a classic

there must be A LOT of those shirts that just show hatred towards eachother..does the team sell it? or is just like people make them and sell them?

[farmerfan]

hahaha thats a classic

there must be A LOT of those shirts that just show hatred towards eachother..does the team sell it? or is just like people make them and sell them?


Mainly you have to go to websites to order these shirts. Some of the shirts I have are way to deragatory for the team to sell. Here is the link to the site where I bout the Giambi shirt. I also bought a A-Rod $UCK$ shirt with the S's really being dollar signs from that site.

http://www.bostont.com/ordering_yankeessuck.html