James Harrison - Brain cells needed

[Favpack]

* Almost Super Bowl MVP

* Disses Pres. Obama for being *invited* to the White House with the Steelers.

"Why should I go to the White House. If he wants to meet me, invite us when we don't win the Super Bowl. If the Cardinals had won, he would have invited them."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4174143

[BDB]

nfl player > POTUS.....

wow...

[Favpack]

nfl player > POTUS.....

wow...

It's just really stupid - regardless of how you feel politically. Go to the White House - don't be a moron.

[agmc27]

It's totally his choice if he wants to go or not. He didn't really have valid reasoning for not going though which in turn made him look bad. However, I don't buy that not going means he doesn't respect the office of the president.

[BDB]

It's totally his choice if he wants to go or not. He didn't really have valid reasoning for not going though which in turn made him look bad. However, I don't buy that not going means he doesn't respect the office of the president.

i don't care how left i feel like swinging, any day the POTUS invited me to the whitehouse (under bush of course) i would have stepped to the opportunity. it's one thing if he showed up at your door at 2 in the morning....

plus, the comments are really out of line. if he would have declined and said something to the effect of "my political convictions will not allow me" or "aliens are rooted deep in my brain and they say no" it would have gone un-noticed and everyone would have forgotten.

it's called tact... he has none.

[slorch]

It's just really stupid - regardless of how you feel politically. Go to the White House - don't be a moron.

He didn't go when Bush was in office either.

I'd say I agree with him. Why does the POTUS need to be a frontrunner?


A poster on another board suggested each player inviting their favorite teacher from their childhood or something. I thought that was a better idea.


Personally, I thought Obama should have invited the Detroit Lions so they could be pardoned...:cool:

[slorch]

i don't care how left i feel like swinging, any day the POTUS invited me to the whitehouse (under bush of course) i would have stepped to the opportunity. it's one thing if he showed up at your door at 2 in the morning....

plus, the comments are really out of line. if he would have declined and said something to the effect of "my political convictions will not allow me" or "aliens are rooted deep in my brain and they say no" it would have gone un-noticed and everyone would have forgotten.

it's called tact... he has none.

I wouldn't go, unless he agreed to have a public debate with me.

Our president is simply an elected official. I am his boss. If I don't respect the guy/ gal beyond their title, I'm not making the trip.

[tayb]

The President is there to SERVE the will of the people. If he does not want to go meet him I don't see a problem. He is just a man. I wouldn't go all the way to the White House unless it was an all expenses paid trip and even then I would have to have nothing better going on. Nothing about a trip to the White House to see the President sounds enjoyable to me.

[Favpack]

Refer to title. To me it just reflects someone's general ignorance of the world he lives in. He's certainly free to do what he wants, and he is consistent - he was equally ignorant for the previous invitation.

[Firebird]

Lots of people think the President is just another guy right up to the moment he extends his hand....

[slorch]

Refer to title. To me it just reflects someone's general ignorance of the world he lives in. He's certainly free to do what he wants, and he is consistent - he was equally ignorant for the previous invitation.

ignorant of what?

[slorch]

Lots of people think the President is just another guy right up to the moment he extends his hand...

If he extended his hand to me, I'd probably reach for my wallet.

[GoOwls]

You can't fix stupid.

[slorch]

You can't fix stupid.

that's probably why Harrison sees no reason to go to the White House...

[GoOwls]

that's probably why harrison sees no reason to go to the white house...

bwahahahahaha!!!

[Maroondog]

that's probably why Harrison sees no reason to go to the White House...

Harrison = Smarter than you think he is. :laugh

[DragonFan0316]

Classic example of mouth engaging before or instead of brain.

[dada]

"If the Cardnials would have won....he would have invited them"


Really?.....I bet if the Cardnials won....they would have had a parade....held the Lombardi trophy also.....or am I just thinking too much?

[Favpack]

ignorant of what?

The Mayor asks you to go receive a key to the city because the Little League team you coach wins the state championship - and you say "No thanks, I'm really not interested".

That meets my definition of ignorant.

Someone of importance wants to honor you for something - you go graciously accept it. Civility 101.

[ktCarl]

Personally, I thought Obama should have invited the Detroit Lions so they could be pardoned...:cool:

Were the Lions convicted of impersonating a football team?

[slorch]

The Mayor asks you to go receive a key to the city because the Little League team you coach wins the state championship - and you say "No thanks, I'm really not interested".

That meets my definition of ignorant.

Someone of importance wants to honor you for something - you go graciously accept it. Civility 101.

rude, possibly, but not necessarily ignorant.

ignorant means you do not have the knowledge of something.

[BDB]

rude, possibly, but not necessarily ignorant.

ignorant means you do not have the knowledge of something.

like having no knowledge of how important POTUS is?

[slorch]

like having no knowledge of how important POTUS is?

how important is he?

or should I capitalize the H?( I think that's what a lot of people think, and that's exactly opposite of what the founding fathers wanted.)

[BDB]

how important is he?

or should I capitalize the H?( I think that's what a lot of people think, and that's exactly opposite of what the founding fathers wanted.)

he's the leader of your country, even if only for a day. it's not that he's a god, it's just customary to do something as trivial as accept praise from him.

i know he's a dirty liberal, and all, but at some point you gotta treat him as any other world leader...

[slorch]

he's the leader of your country, even if only for a day. it's not that he's a god, it's just customary to do something as trivial as accept praise from him.

i know he's a dirty liberal, and all, but at some point you gotta treat him as any other world leader...

He is not a leader.

he is the POTUS, an elected position, of which I have a citizen's respect.


I would not follow him to lunch.

[BDB]

He is not a leader.

he is the POTUS, an elected position, of which I have a citizen's respect.


I would not follow him to lunch.

and there it is.... thanks there slorchy.

[CCCSportsFan]

Harrison's pit bull tore into his 2 year old son yesterday...

PITTSBURGH (AP) — A pit bull owned by Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker James Harrison bit his 2-year-old son in the thigh, but the boy is expected to recover though he remained hospitalized Friday, the player's agent said.
Harrison's agent, William Parise, told the Associated Press that James III was bitten after his mother let the dog out of its pen Thursday afternoon. Parise wouldn't identify the woman, but said she and Harrison's massage therapist also were hurt trying to help the boy. The massage therapist needed three stitches, Parise said.



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/2009-05-22-harrison-son_N.htm?csp=34

[GoOwls]

Harrison's pit bull tore into his 2 year old son yesterday...

PITTSBURGH (AP) — A pit bull owned by Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker James Harrison bit his 2-year-old son in the thigh, but the boy is expected to recover though he remained hospitalized Friday, the player's agent said.
Harrison's agent, William Parise, told the Associated Press that James III was bitten after his mother let the dog out of its pen Thursday afternoon. Parise wouldn't identify the woman, but said she and Harrison's massage therapist also were hurt trying to help the boy. The massage therapist needed three stitches, Parise said.



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/2009-05-22-harrison-son_N.htm?csp=34

When will so called adults figure out that these dogs are walking liabilities and dangerous to innocent people.

Clam it with the "OH you jerk, pit bulls are kind animals, it's the people who make them bad". Maybe so, but if I raise a chihuahua to be mean, I don't have to worry about it killing somebody....and if I don't raise a chihuahua to be mean but it goes off anyway, I still don't have to worry about it killing somebody.

Grow the hell up....:mad:

[Firebird]

When will so called adults figure out that these dogs are walking liabilities and dangerous to innocent people.

Clam it with the "OH you jerk, pit bulls are kind animals, it's the people who make them bad". Maybe so, but if I raise a chihuahua to be mean, I don't have to worry about it killing somebody....and if I don't raise a chihuahua to be mean but it goes off anyway, I still don't have to worry about it killing somebody.

Grow the hell up....:mad:

Make you a deal, you can decide what breeds of dogs we can have and I can decide what kind of cars we can drive.

[GoOwls]

Make you a deal, you can decide what breeds of dogs we can have and I can decide what kind of cars we can drive.

deal.....;)

[BDB]

When will so called adults figure out that these dogs are walking liabilities and dangerous to innocent people.

Clam it with the "OH you jerk, pit bulls are kind animals, it's the people who make them bad". Maybe so, but if I raise a chihuahua to be mean, I don't have to worry about it killing somebody....and if I don't raise a chihuahua to be mean but it goes off anyway, I still don't have to worry about it killing somebody.

Grow the hell up....:mad:

really? you're gonna blame a breed of dog? do you blame races of humans when crimes are committed?

[Dawg Fan]

yea, there really is no history of pit bulls attacking people.:rolleyes:

I really get a kick out of those people who try to defend pit bulls. The dog was bred to be a fighter, plain and simple. Anyone who owns one that attacks another human being should be put in jail. It is a dangerous weapon and everyone knows it.

[GoOwls]

really? you're gonna blame a breed of dog? do you blame races of humans when crimes are committed?

The "breed of dog" has over twice to bite pressure per sq. inch that the Rotweiller has....way over twice...and over 3 times what the German Shepard has. Plus, it has the capability of locking it's jaws on its victim until the victim dies.

A full auto AK-47 is more dangerous, by it's nature, than a .22 revolver. Both can kill, but death is delivered much easier with an AK-47 than with a .22 revolver.

I bet you're much more in favor of banning civilian ownership of a full auto AK-47 than a .22 revolver......all things considered.

The Pit Bull is the same.....in the wrong hands it is much more dangerous than any other dog.....in the right hands, it's still just as dangerous because it has an animal's brain and it has the same equal potential for delivering death.

See, if you just think things out, it all begins to make sense.

As for your last question, if a particular race of people are known to commit a certain crime, sure, I'd keep an eye on it.

Let's test your theory. Let's play "Match the Race with the Crime".

Corporate crime........White?

Wall Street insider trading.....White?

Moonshining......White?

Organized crime.......White?

Check Kiting........White?

Ra*e.......White? (generally)

Incest.........White?

Polygamy......White?

Bank Robbery.......White?

Shall we go on..........

[slorch]

btl:)

[mad_fan]

Make you a deal, you can decide what breeds of dogs we can have and I can decide what kind of cars we can drive.

I fear the thought process that led to this statement...

[BDB]

damn... for yall bein such staunch republicans, i'm amazed yall are in favor of more government sanctions on something....

did you know that if in the wrong hands that alcohol and chlorine can be deadly to a large group of people?

did you know that people have killed themselves with ordanary t-shirts?

there's alot of this doom and gloom crap coming from the "family values" crowd, but in reality yall are the same people who enjoyed passing the patriot act, so why should i consider anything yall say OTHER then fear mongering?

[tayb]

yea, there really is no history of pit bulls attacking people.:rolleyes:

I really get a kick out of those people who try to defend pit bulls. The dog was bred to be a fighter, plain and simple. Anyone who owns one that attacks another human being should be put in jail. It is a dangerous weapon and everyone knows it.

There is a long history of humans attacking other humans. I contend that being a human being should be illegal.

[Firebird]

yea, there really is no history of pit bulls attacking people.:rolleyes:

I really get a kick out of those people who try to defend pit bulls. The dog was bred to be a fighter, plain and simple. Anyone who owns one that attacks another human being should be put in jail. It is a dangerous weapon and everyone knows it.

Like I said, y'all can ban the dogs you deem are dangerous and detrimental to society as long as I get to ban the vehicles I feel that way about.

[Firebird]

I fear the thought process that led to this statement...

What...y'all have picked out a breed of dog to vilify and blame for all sorts of problems. There are certain types of cars that are more dangerous than others. If you get to ban the one, why not the other? Both are primarily dangerous as a result of what their human owners do.

[Firebird]

Plus, it has the capability of locking it's jaws on its victim until the victim dies.

FAIL

No canines have a locking jaw.

[tayb]

It is illegal to be strong or trained in martial arts.

[Firebird]

SUVs are more dangerous than conventional cars. When involved in a crash with a standard sized car they usually cause greater damage and risk of injury to the passengers inside. They have a higher center of gravity and are more prone to roll over. They have worse handling in emergency situations. They are more dangerous to their passengers, pedestrians, and others on the road than small cars. If we all drove small, underpowered cars there would be fewer deadly accidents. Therefore SUVs should be banned and cars like the Fit should be the only ones people can drive without a special permit.

[BDB]

It is illegal to be strong or trained in martial arts.

only if people fear you.

[mad_fan]

SUVs are more dangerous than conventional cars. When involved in a crash with a standard sized car they usually cause greater damage and risk of injury to the passengers inside. They have a higher center of gravity and are more prone to roll over. They have worse handling in emergency situations. Therefore they should be banned.

And sitting in the driveway...with may pitbull sitting next to it???

[mad_fan]

damn... for yall bein such staunch republicans, i'm amazed yall are in favor of more government sanctions on something....

did you know that if in the wrong hands that alcohol and chlorine can be deadly to a large group of people?

did you know that people have killed themselves with ordanary t-shirts?

there's alot of this doom and gloom crap coming from the "family values" crowd, but in reality yall are the same people who enjoyed passing the patriot act, so why should i consider anything yall say OTHER then fear mongering?

Only stuff you want government to have less control over...

[mad_fan]

What...y'all have picked out a breed of dog to vilify and blame for all sorts of problems. There are certain types of cars that are more dangerous than others. If you get to ban the one, why not the other? Both are primarily dangerous as a result of what their human owners do.

My 2500HD rarely escapes from the yard without me in control of it...;)

[tayb]

My 2500HD rarely escapes from the yard without me in control of it...;)

I take it you have never caused an auto accident in your entire life then.

[tayb]

only if people fear you.

I have the ability to clamp my hands until someone dies.

Should I be illegal? Seriously. I fit all of the criteria.

[BDB]

I have the ability to clamp my hands until someone dies.

Should I be illegal? Seriously. I fit all of the criteria.

when my personal space is invaded i become very territorial and depending on my relationship with the person invading, i have been known to strike.

should i be illegal?

[mad_fan]

I take it you have never caused an auto accident in your entire life then.

pied??? is that you???:D

No I haven't...but my I'm not sure what my 2500HD is doing all night...
Is having caused an accident the norm today???

[mad_fan]

I have the ability to clamp my hands until someone dies.

Should I be illegal? Seriously. I fit all of the criteria.

You can't control your hands??? Or you don't know where they are at night???

[Firebird]

You can't control your hands??? Or you don't know where they are at night???

If you ever got into an emergency situation, you would be far more likely to lose control of your 2500 HD than if you were in a small car. The statistics don't lie. Even responsible SUV drivers are more likely to injure themselves or someone else than a responsible small car driver. Responsible dog owners sometimes see dogs escape and responsible drivers sometimes cause accidents. I want to minimize the danger from both, thus I want to ban pitbulls and large SUVs or trucks. You'll need a special permit for each, and if you cause an injury with either you should face higher penalties.

[tayb]

pied??? is that you???:D

No I haven't...but my I'm not sure what my 2500HD is doing all night...
Is having caused an accident the norm today???

You would be in the minority if you've never caused an accident, even a minor one, in your entire life. I haven't caused an accident yet but I'm fairly young... plenty of time to screw up...

I've been in an accident with a huge SUV which wasn't my fault... car was totaled. I can't imagine the car being totaled if the woman was driving a Toyota Camry instead of her GMC Yukon. GMC Yukon = Illegal??

[tayb]

You can't control your hands??? Or you don't know where they are at night???

I can control them most of the time... but when I lose control they cause a lot more damage than normal hands.

[Firebird]

You would be in the minority if you've never caused an accident, even a minor one, in your entire life. I haven't caused an accident yet but I'm fairly young... plenty of time to screw up...

I've been in an accident with a huge SUV which wasn't my fault... car was totaled. I can't imagine the car being totaled if the woman was driving a Toyota Camry instead of her GMC Yukon.

In the hands of irresponsible drivers, SUVs are more dangerous than small cars. In the hands of irresponsible owners, pit bulls are more dangerous than small dogs.

Accidents happen to even responsible people, too. In the hands of a responsible driver, an SUV is STILL more dangerous. In the hands of a responsible owner, a pit bull is STILL more dangerous.

This argument applies to firearms as well. Even responsible people sometimes have gun accidents and harm themselves or someone they didn't intend to. In the hands of irresponsible people, the danger is magnified times 1000. I support banning them as well except by special permit.

Yukons should be illegal. You lose control of your Fit on black ice and hit another small car, maybe no big deal. Lose control of your Yukon and hit a small car, people die. That simple.

[mad_fan]

If you ever got into an emergency situation, you would be far more likely to lose control of your 2500 HD than if you were in a small car. The statistics don't lie. Even responsible SUV drivers are more likely to injure themselves or someone else than a responsible small car driver. Responsible dog owners sometimes see dogs escape and responsible drivers sometimes cause accidents. I want to minimize the danger from both, thus I want to ban pitbulls and large SUVs or trucks. You'll need a special permit for each, and if you cause an injury with either you should face higher penalties.

So responsible dog owners are always with their dogs when they are in motion???
Responsible dog owners are always 'at the wheel' just prior to a dog incident???
All dog attacks are 'accidents'???

[mad_fan]

I can control them most of the time... but when I lose control they cause a lot more damage than normal hands.

Then you will be locked up...

[Firebird]

So responsible dog owners are always with their dogs when they are in motion???
Responsible dog owners are always 'at the wheel' just prior to a dog incident???
All dog attacks are 'accidents'???

Your truck could be stolen and used to harm someone. I see no difference if someone is at the wheel or with the dog. The fact is that people get hurt or killed that wouldn't have if you had another breed of dog or a smaller car. Who cares if you are on the scene or not, it's still YOU that bears responsibility.

[mad_fan]

In the hands of irresponsible drivers, SUVs are more dangerous than small cars. In the hands of irresponsible owners, pit bulls are more dangerous than small dogs.

Accidents happen to even responsible people, too. In the hands of a responsible driver, an SUV is STILL more dangerous. In the hands of a responsible owner, a pit bull is STILL more dangerous.

This argument applies to firearms as well. Even responsible people sometimes have gun accidents and harm themselves or someone they didn't intend to. In the hands of irresponsible people, the danger is magnified times 1000. I support banning them as well except by special permit.

Yukons should be illegal. You lose control of your Fit on black ice and hit another small car, maybe no big deal. Lose control of your Yukon and hit a small car, people die. That simple.


This argument is beyond stoopid...
Why can't everybody have a lion...or an elephant...or a cape buffalo...in their neighborhood???

[Firebird]

So responsible dog owners are always with their dogs when they are in motion???
Responsible dog owners are always 'at the wheel' just prior to a dog incident???
All dog attacks are 'accidents'???

All dog attacks are either accidents (in that the dog got loose or otherwise out of control of the owner) or they are on purpose (the owner used the dog to harm someone).

All car crashes are either accidents or caused by the driver.

Either way,harm would be minimized with only small dogs and only small, underpowered cars. And isn't that the point, to keep us safe?

[mad_fan]

Your truck could be stolen and used to harm someone. I see no difference if someone is at the wheel or with the dog. The fact is that people get hurt or killed that wouldn't have if you had another breed of dog or a smaller car. Who cares if you are on the scene or not, it's still YOU that bears responsibility.

That's just stoopid...
If someone steals my 2500HD or my pitbull is stolen...nobody would charge me with s***...

[Firebird]

This argument is beyond stoopid...
Why can't everybody have a lion...or an elephant...or a cape buffalo...in their neighborhood???

If they take care to build and maintain the proper enclosures, I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to. Just like people who maintain their cars properly and drive them safely should be able to drive a Yukon.

[Firebird]

That's just stoopid...
If someone steals my 2500HD or my pitbull is stolen...nobody would charge me with s***...

If you lose control of your car, you could be charged. If you lose control of your pitbull you can be charged. You are lying if you say there are no circumstances under which you might lose control of your 2500HD. It happens every day to responsible drivers in this country. Far more people are killed by drivers than by dogs every year.

[mad_fan]

All dog attacks are either accidents (in that the dog got loose or otherwise out of control of the owner) or they are on purpose (the owner used the dog to harm someone).

All car crashes are either accidents or caused by the driver.

Either way,harm would be minimized with only small dogs and only small, underpowered cars. And isn't that the point, to keep us safe?

The dog getting out of the yard might be an accident...
The following attack is an incident...often criminal...usually civil...

[mad_fan]

If they take care to build and maintain the proper enclosures, I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to. Just like people who maintain their cars properly and drive them safely should be able to drive a Yukon.

You should run for city council somewhere...and float the idea...

[Firebird]

The dog getting out of the yard might be an accident...
The following attack is an incident...often criminal...usually civil...

What difference does it make to me if you lost control of your dog the night before when you forgot to padlock the gate, or if you lost control of your SUV seconds before slamming into me? I'm still just as dead or injured, you mean no harm to me either way, and the harm to be would have been minimized if you had a smaller dog or smaller vehicle.

Car crashes also lead to criminal and civil charges, btw.....

[mad_fan]

If you lose control of your car, you could be charged. If you lose control of your pitbull you can be charged. You are lying if you say there are no circumstances under which you might lose control of your 2500HD. It happens every day to responsible drivers in this country. Far more people are killed by drivers than by dogs every year.

What caused me to lose control???

[Firebird]

You should run for city council somewhere...and float the idea...

I've seen several zoos in residential areas.....if you can build and maintain an enclosure up to zoological standards, then go for it.

[Firebird]

What caused me to lose control???

Pick any number of reasons. For argument's sake, unseen ice.

[mad_fan]

What difference does it make to me if you lost control of your dog the night before when you forgot to padlock the gate, or if you lost control of your SUV seconds before slamming into me? I'm still just as dead or injured, you mean no harm to me either way, and the harm to be would have been minimized if you had a smaller dog or smaller vehicle.

Car crashes also lead to criminal and civil charges, btw.....

I don't FORGET to lock my gates...and I don't FORGET to check my tire pressure...
My truck doesn't leave without me...unless stolen...can't say the same for my pitbull...he has a brain...and likes to dig...unlike my truck...

[mad_fan]

Pick any number of reasons. For argument's sake, unseen ice.

mad family...traveling east...hits unseen ice on a bridge...sliding out of control...
bird family...traveling west on said bridge...is hit by out of control mad mobile...
luckily...no one is hurt...
mad's pitbull jumps from mad mobile...and runs to bird mobile...grabbing driver by throat...
Which of their three vehicles were the mad's traveling in???:Music

[Firebird]

I don't FORGET to lock my gates...and I don't FORGET to check my tire pressure...
My truck doesn't leave without me...unless stolen...can't say the same for my pitbull...he has a brain...and likes to dig...unlike my truck...

The simple facts are these:

1. Nearly all car crashes could have been avoided if the driver had taken all necessary precautions.

2. Nearly all dog attacks could have been avoided if the owners had taken all necessary precautions.

3. In both instances, harm is minimized with smaller dogs and smaller, less powerful vehicles.

4. More people are killed as a result of driver negligence than dog owner negligence.

Dog likes to dig? Put cement around the enclosure.

5. Solution: Only ban big dogs????:confused:

[mad_fan]

The simple facts are these:

1. Nearly all car crashes could have been avoided if the driver had taken all necessary precautions.

2. Nearly all dog attacks could have been avoided if the owners had taken all necessary precautions.

3. In both instances, harm is minimized with smaller dogs and smaller, less powerful vehicles.

4. More people are killed as a result of driver negligence than dog owner negligence.

5. Solution: Only ban big dogs????:confused:

Facts in bird world...where everybody has one dog...and one vehicle...
Or is it one pitbull...and one Yukon???

[Firebird]

Facts in bird world...where everybody has one dog...and one vehicle...
Or is it one pitbull...and one Yukon???

Show me where I am wrong. Show me a dog that gets out of his yard and I'll show you an owner that screwed up somewhere along the line. Show me a car accident and I'll show you where at least one driver screwed up.

[mad_fan]

Show me where I am wrong. Show me a dog that gets out of his yard and I'll show you an owner that screwed up somewhere along the line. Show me a car accident and I'll show you where at least one driver screwed up.

Show me a Yukon that left the yard by itself and intentional attacked someone...

[tayb]

Show me a Yukon that left the yard by itself and intentional attacked someone...

Smart owner... dog won't get out of the gate.

Smart owner... won't speed in the Yukon.

Dumb owners... the exact opposite.

[mad_fan]

Smart owner... dog won't get out of the gate.

Smart owner... won't speed in the Yukon.

Dumb owners... the exact opposite.

Any Dog...gosh I'd like out of this yard...
Any Yukon............................................. ...................................

[mad_fan]

mad family...traveling east...hits unseen ice on a bridge...sliding out of control...
bird family...traveling west on said bridge...is hit by out of control mad mobile...
luckily...no one is hurt...
mad's pitbull jumps from mad mobile...and runs to bird mobile...grabbing driver by throat...
Which of their three vehicles were the mad's traveling in???:Music

waiting...:Music

[slorch]

y'all are outta control...like the POTUS.

[mad_fan]

y'all are outta control...like the POTUS.

I blame the cities...states...and the feds...
For building the bridge that made me lose control in the first place...

[Dawg Fan]

There is a long history of humans attacking other humans. I contend that being a human being should be illegal.

nice spin but we were talking about dogs. Try to come up with an actual reason pit bulls are safe.:rolleyes:

[Dawg Fan]

Like I said, y'all can ban the dogs you deem are dangerous and detrimental to society as long as I get to ban the vehicles I feel that way about.

I tell you what, this is a democracy, why don't we all just vote on it or do you believe that one man's opinion carries more weight than a majority?

[BDB]

nice spin but we were talking about dogs. Try to come up with an actual reason pit bulls are safe.:rolleyes:

Pit bulls get bum rap, Humane Society says (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705284902,00.html)

"Any breed is capable of biting," he said. "The biggest biters are cocker spaniels."

There are misconceptions about pit bulls, and the only real problems arise from owners who train their animals to be aggressive, Baierschmidt said.


elprez FTW!

[BDB]

I tell you what, this is a democracy, why don't we all just vote on it or do you believe that one man's opinion carries more weight than a majority?

are you really not catching the satire?

[Dawg Fan]

Pit bulls get bum rap, Humane Society says (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705284902,00.html)




elprez FTW!

I have a question, which would you rather be bitten by (if you had no choice)

pit bull or cocker spaniel?


thanks for playing;)

[BDB]

I have a question, which would you rather be bitten by (if you had no choice)

pit bull or cocker spaniel?


thanks for playing;)

back to birds question. would you rather be hit by a prius or a semi?

answer mine, i'll answer yours ;)

elprez FTW2

[Dawg Fan]

are you really not catching the satire?

yes and if you really look into the whole thing it was a shot because most folks call firebird a commie (not me) hence the democracy rib

[Dawg Fan]

back to birds question. would you rather be hit by a prius or a semi?

answer mine, i'll answer yours ;)

elprez FTW2

I asked you first and I was responding to your post. Bird didn't ask me a question but if he does I will answer.

[mad_fan]

Pit bulls get bum rap, Humane Society says (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,705284902,00.html)




elprez FTW!

Humane Society of Utah??? Nice pick...:notworthy
Try their national website...;)

[BDB]

yes and if you really look into the whole thing it was a shot because most folks call firebird a commie (not me) hence the democracy rib

oh... i thought it was cuz we are actually a democracy.... sorry for not seein that...

[mad_fan]

back to birds question. would you rather be hit by a prius or a semi?

answer mine, i'll answer yours ;)

elprez FTW2

If getting hit...I'd rather BE IN A semi...:D

[BDB]

Humane Society of Utah??? Nice pick...:notworthy
Try their national website...;)

are you shitting me?

[BDB]

Humane Society of Utah??? Nice pick...:notworthy
Try their national website...;)

http://www.hsus.org/web-files/People_and_Animals/sean-jigga-hp.jpg

suck it.

vick playing with a docile pitbull, article about using vick to show how dog fighting is cruel.

if that ain't enough....i could care less, that's good enough.

[mad_fan]

are you shitting me?

yes...

[tayb]

nice spin but we were talking about dogs. Try to come up with an actual reason pit bulls are safe.:rolleyes:

Come up with a reason pit bulls are safe? A dog is a wild animal... they are inherently NOT safe... you are trying to contend a pit bull is more "not safe" than any other dog. I've seen plenty of pit bulls in my life... I guess I am lucky, really lucky, to be able to be typing this.

[mad_fan]

http://www.hsus.org/web-files/People_and_Animals/sean-jigga-hp.jpg

suck it.

vick playing with a docile pitbull, article about using vick to show how dog fighting is cruel.

if that ain't enough....i could care less, that's good enough.

Not a Vick fan...so I exercise my RIGHT not to watch...

[tayb]

I have a question, which would you rather be bitten by (if you had no choice)

pit bull or cocker spaniel?


thanks for playing;)

This one.

http://daddytypes.com/archive/pitbull-bit-baby.jpg

[mad_fan]

I have a question, which would you rather be bitten by (if you had no choice)

pit bull or cocker spaniel?


thanks for playing;)

If he has no choice...why are you asking???:D

[Firebird]

Any Dog...gosh I'd like out of this yard...
Any Yukon............................................. ...................................

It is possible to build an enclosure a dog can't get out of, just like it is possible to drive an SUV in a way that will seriously minimize the chance of getting in an accident. Most people don't do either.

[GoOwls]

Wow......I find a dead thread, post my usual pot stirrer, take the grandson fishing, go to the grocery store, come home, and 3 pages later.......3 freaking pages later, on a dead thread, you guys are still going at it......

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

:notworthy :notworthy of me!!!!!

Just for argument sake, yes tayb, you are luckier to be alive than you know.....every time you survive a pit bull encounter, consider yourself lucky....coming from a guy who deals with "those wonderful little sweet pets" every day.

[tayb]

Wow......I find a dead thread, post my usual pot stirrer, take the grandson fishing, go to the grocery store, come home, and 3 pages later.......3 freaking pages later, on a dead thread, you guys are still going at it......

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

of me!!!!!

Just for argument sake, yes tayb, you are luckier to be alive than you know.....every time you survive a pit bull encounter, consider yourself lucky....coming from a guy who deals with "those wonderful little sweet pets" every day.

I know. This little guy could have ripped my head right off... vicious straight from birth... designed to kill. It's a wonder my friends Pit Bull, which he raised from birth, licked my face earlier this week... instead of biting at my neck. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

http://daddytypes.com/archive/pitbull-bit-baby.jpg

I can't believe some of you guys have the balls to label yourselves "conservatives." Closet liberal would be a much better description.

[GoOwls]

I know. This little guy could have ripped my head right off... vicious straight from birth... designed to kill. It's a wonder my friends Pit Bull, which he raised from birth, licked my face earlier this week... instead of biting at my neck. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

http://daddytypes.com/archive/pitbull-bit-baby.jpg

I can't believe some of you guys have the balls to label yourselves "conservatives." Closet liberal would be a much better description.

That's a SWEET little bubble you live in, can I borrow it for the week.

[Dawg Fan]

Come up with a reason pit bulls are safe? A dog is a wild animal... they are inherently NOT safe... you are trying to contend a pit bull is more "not safe" than any other dog. I've seen plenty of pit bulls in my life... I guess I am lucky, really lucky, to be able to be typing this.


dogs are domesticated animals, not wild animals...please learn the difference and come on back

[Dawg Fan]

oh... i thought it was cuz we are actually a democracy.... sorry for not seein that...

let me guess, only certain folks on here can use satire or make jokes.....come on man, give it a rest already.....

[Dawg Fan]

This one.

http://daddytypes.com/archive/pitbull-bit-baby.jpg

tell me there billy bad as*, if you are walking down the street and a pit bull is coming at you one way and a cocker spaniel is coming at you the other way, both looking like they want to chew you up, which way do you run? I am sure you will try some cute spin answer but we all know a pit bull is a very dangerous dog and almost everyone on the planet would rather face the cocker spaniel

[svhorns]

Pitbulls are dangerous dogs. There is no if, ands, or buts, about it... I don't know why you would say they aren't dangerous. If a pitbull is outside of his comfort zone and away from his owner than there is no telling what that dog might do. People make mistakes it happens everyday... and it only takes one mistake from an owner for a dog to get out. My buddy's parents had some people over for a get together and the dog had no history of getting loose or heading towards the door... they had trained it not to do so. Well someone opened the door... the dog made its way outside and lo and behold a black lab was outside. They were calling for the dog to come back but it wouldn't listen... it first looked as if they were playing and getting along but something triggered in the pitbull and it grabbed the lab by the neck and it wouldn't let go... it eventually let go and the lab ended up alright but he had to get rid of the pitbull... he bought the dog as a 4 month old puppy and had it for 4 years... all it took was one mistake... The owner was smart and so was the dog... I understand that any type of dog could have done the same thing to the lab but a pitbulls bite is much worse than 99% of other dogs.

[tayb]

dogs are domesticated animals, not wild animals...please learn the difference and come on back

For an animal to be domesticated it has to first be a ............ animal....

[tayb]

tell me there billy bad as*, if you are walking down the street and a pit bull is coming at you one way and a cocker spaniel is coming at you the other way, both looking like they want to chew you up, which way do you run? I am sure you will try some cute spin answer but we all know a pit bull is a very dangerous dog and almost everyone on the planet would rather face the cocker spaniel

So I have to run away from one of these?

http://daddytypes.com/archive/pitbull-bit-baby.jpg

http://www.lotsaboutdogs.com/images/CockerSpaniel.jpg

I guess I would choose the second one... to run away from that is.


To tell the truth I'm much more afraid when I see one of these headed for me on a two lane road than I've ever been when hanging around a vicious nasty pit bull that is bred to kill me and anything that moves.

http://i.treehugger.com/images/2007/10/24/h2-410.jpg

[GoOwls]

Pitbulls are dangerous dogs. There is no if, ands, or buts, about it... I don't know why you would say they aren't dangerous. If a pitbull is outside of his comfort zone and away from his owner than there is no telling what that dog might do. People make mistakes it happens everyday... and it only takes one mistake from an owner for a dog to get out. My buddy's parents had some people over for a get together and the dog had no history of getting loose or heading towards the door... they had trained it not to do so. Well someone opened the door... the dog made its way outside and lo and behold a black lab was outside. They were calling for the dog to come back but it wouldn't listen... it first looked as if they were playing and getting along but something triggered in the pitbull and it grabbed the lab by the neck and it wouldn't let go... it eventually let go and the lab ended up alright but he had to get rid of the pitbull... he bought the dog as a 4 month old puppy and had it for 4 years... all it took was one mistake... The owner was smart and so was the dog... I understand that any type of dog could have done the same thing to the lab but a pitbulls bite is much worse than 99% of other dogs.

tayb is just trying to incite a riot....he can't be that dumb.

You are so correct about the pit bull.

One day as I was carrying my route, a lady passed me by on the other side of the street walking her 6 mo. old Lab. puppy. I started hearing a growling and scratching coming from across the street and looked and saw a pit bull coming over the top of a 9 foot wooden fence, fell over it to the ground, and rushed to attack the puppy.......grabbed it by the neck and started shaking.....the lady started kicking and hitting the pit, but he wouldn't let go....another man already on the other side of the street started hitting the dog with his hoe handle.....still wouldn't let go......I was running over there myself to spray the dog, but he finally took enough of a beating that he turned the dog loose and ran back to his porch.

The pup was pretty tore up and I thought is was sure to die...he was almost lifeless.....the lady had numerous deep scratches and a gash that needed 7 stitches....after a couple of days, they decided the pup would make it....he is fine now, but has nightmares in his sleep....every night...the lady does too.

The owner of the pit was shocked......I was shocked.....I didn't even know he had a dog......I'd never heard it bark.....not once....he had had the dog for 5 years and I never heard it once.....described it as a loving family dog that never hurt anyone.....

.......it just went off......period.......lost it's marbles.....it's the nature of the beast. He paid over $1500 in vet expenses, over $600 in fines, and the dog was destroyed.

The dog....an otherwise quiet and kind dog.....suddenly and without warning decided it needed to climb a 9 foot wodden fence and try to kill a puppy.

In 25 years of carrying mail I've never seen anything like it.....the puppy in tayb's taunts is surely not indicative of what I saw that day.

I've got other pit bull stories and other bad dog stories of other breeds....shepards, dobermans, rotweillers, chows, cockers, labs, irish setters...but none of those dog stories ever included "I was afraid for my life"...those stories are saved for one incident with two Rotweillers, and about 5 instances with pits.

You guys can laugh it off all you want, I won't come cry at your funeral.

[Firebird]

People suck at knowing what to be afraid of. We worry about crap like dogs but don't even blink at pulling onto the road or going boating.

[BDB]

Pitbulls are dangerous dogs. There is no if, ands, or buts, about it... I don't know why you would say they aren't dangerous. If a pitbull is outside of his comfort zone and away from his owner than there is no telling what that dog might do. People make mistakes it happens everyday... and it only takes one mistake from an owner for a dog to get out. My buddy's parents had some people over for a get together and the dog had no history of getting loose or heading towards the door... they had trained it not to do so. Well someone opened the door... the dog made its way outside and lo and behold a black lab was outside. They were calling for the dog to come back but it wouldn't listen... it first looked as if they were playing and getting along but something triggered in the pitbull and it grabbed the lab by the neck and it wouldn't let go... it eventually let go and the lab ended up alright but he had to get rid of the pitbull... he bought the dog as a 4 month old puppy and had it for 4 years... all it took was one mistake... The owner was smart and so was the dog... I understand that any type of dog could have done the same thing to the lab but a pitbulls bite is much worse than 99% of other dogs.

RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!
http://www.downtownpet.com/blog/uploaded_images/pitbull-and-child-759940.jpg

pitbulls are as vicious as german shepards or blue heelers in that when they feel the need to restore order they bit and pull and drag until they have you in order and where they think you should be going. a great dane has the capacity to kill alot faster, but i haven't seen anyone talking about outlawing those....

[tayb]

Golden Retriever kills an infant...

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2009/03/06/20090306childdeath0306.html

Siberian Husky kills...

http://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogblog/2009/01/3-week-old-baby-killed-by-dog.html

Rotweiler kills...

http://www.wkrg.com/local/article/baby_killed_in_dog_attack/8556/

Chow kills...

http://www.momlogic.com/2009/03/baby_killed_by_family_dog.php

Black Labrador kills...

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080730_11_A1_hDetec457625


I suggest that immediately all these dogs be considered illegal.

[slorch]

Y'all haven't played the race card in the dog breed defense arguments?

kudos for not seizing the cheap way out of the discussion...

[mad_fan]

Y'all haven't played the race card in the dog breed defense arguments?

kudos for not seizing the cheap way out of the discussion...

I was going to get to that...but I have to get passed the 'self-motivated' Tahoe that's running around hurting people...

[BDB]

I was going to get to that...but I have to get passed the 'self-motivated' Tahoe that's running around hurting people...

http://www.imfdb.org/images/a/a9/Desert-Eagle.jpeg

[mad_fan]

I was going to get to that...but I have to get passed the 'self-motivated' Tahoe that's running around hurting people...

And the 'self-motivated' handgun that's out there all by itself...;)

[BDB]

And the 'self-motivated' handgun that's out there all by itself...;)

if i have a son and constantly beat him, starve him, and teach him how to kill, i'm pretty sure he's not gonna mature into a normal part of society.

how is that any different from a dog?

[mad_fan]

if i have a son and constantly beat him, starve him, and teach him how to kill, i'm pretty sure he's not gonna mature into a normal part of society.

how is that any different from a dog?

Some of those things might be illegal...though they shouldn't be...
I'd stick with starving (for fuel and oil) a Tahoe...kicking it on occasion will motivate it too...

[BDB]

Some of those things might be illegal...though they shouldn't be...
I'd stick with starving (for fuel and oil) a Tahoe...kicking it on occasion will motivate it too...

illegal like driving under the influence, using black tint past txdot requirements, or driving at night without your headlights on?


seems to me like both cars and dogs need to have something illegal done to them in order for them to hurt someone....

[mad_fan]

illegal like driving under the influence, using black tint past txdot requirements, or driving at night without your headlights on?


seems to me like both cars and dogs need to have something illegal done to them in order for them to hurt someone....

Teaching a dog to be aggressive is illegal???

[BDB]

Teaching a dog to be aggressive is illegal???

starving, beating, teaching it to kill is.

that's pretty much how you get to be aggressive enough to attack someone for no reason.

i guess you could water-board it...since yall prolly don't have a problem with that.

[Firebird]

Teaching a dog to be aggressive is illegal???

Allowing him to run lose is...no matter what breed of dog.

[yallerjacket2]

that's pretty much how you get to be aggressive enough to attack someone for no reason.



Dogs never attack someone for no reason. Their reasons just aren't very "reasonable" to me.

[BDB]

Dogs never attack someone for no reason. Their reasons just aren't very "reasonable" to me.

ah my bad. should have put "no reason". obviously there's gonna be a reason. but ive never been attacked by a pitbull who was well kept and socialized. i have been attacked by Labradors and mutts that we never let off a leash or had human interaction, though.

[mad_fan]

Allowing him to run lose is...no matter what breed of dog.

I wish we'd enforce the laws on the books...

[mad_fan]

starving, beating, teaching it to kill is.

that's pretty much how you get to be aggressive enough to attack someone for no reason.

i guess you could water-board it...since yall prolly don't have a problem with that.

I guess I need the link to Firebird's Book of Known Facts on that one...;)

[mad_fan]

starving, beating, teaching it to kill is.

that's pretty much how you get to be aggressive enough to attack someone for no reason.

i guess you could water-board it...since yall prolly don't have a problem with that.

You silly Mexican...dogs can't talk...even if they can plot...;)

[svhorns]

RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!
http://www.downtownpet.com/blog/uploaded_images/pitbull-and-child-759940.jpg

pitbulls are as vicious as german shepards or blue heelers in that when they feel the need to restore order they bit and pull and drag until they have you in order and where they think you should be going. a great dane has the capacity to kill alot faster, but i haven't seen anyone talking about outlawing those....

I didn't say anything about outlawing... I could care less... I'd rather outlaw some owners... but pitbulls are dangerous dogs... there is no denying that...

[BDB]

I didn't say anything about outlawing... I could care less... I'd rather outlaw some owners... but pitbulls are dangerous dogs... there is no denying that...

as dangerous as a handgun or SUV, and since mad and go don't think those are that big of a deal, i'ma have to say the same for pitbulls.

[mad_fan]

as dangerous as a handgun or SUV, and since mad and go don't think those are that big of a deal, i'ma have to say the same for pitbulls.

I'm going to build an enclosure...that a Yukon...a handgun...a pitbull...and mad can't escape from...
Then I'm going to put a Yukon...a handgun...a pitbull...and myself in the enclosure...
Be watching CNN...

[svhorns]

as dangerous as a handgun or SUV, and since mad and go don't think those are that big of a deal, i'ma have to say the same for pitbulls.

What the hell does a gun or SUV have to do with a dog? Lets outlaw tree branches and rocks too because far too many kids are throwing rocks and swinging tree branches like clubs these days.

[mad_fan]

What the hell does a gun or SUV have to do with a dog? Lets outlaw tree branches and rocks too because far too many kids are throwing rocks and swinging tree branches like clubs these days.

Exactly...if I beat you silly with my .22LR...that makes it an assault rifle...;)

[BDB]

What the hell does a gun or SUV have to do with a dog? Lets outlaw tree branches and rocks too because far too many kids are throwing rocks and swinging tree branches like clubs these days.

so you see my point?

why outlaw a dog that takes years to finally assume the position of a deadly weapon in the wrong hands? anything can be seen as dangerous, even my laptop. if i threw my laptop in a bathtub with you lying in it, would it be considered dangerous?

[BDB]

I'm going to build an enclosure...that a Yukon...a handgun...a pitbull...and mad can't escape from...
Then I'm going to put a Yukon...a handgun...a pitbull...and myself in the enclosure...
Be watching CNN...

dON'T dO IT MAD!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.smalldogbigdogpictures.com/dog-picture-big-dog-pitbull-Artamnesia.jpg

IT'S GONNA GO FOR THE NECK!!!!!

[mad_fan]

dON'T dO IT MAD!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.smalldogbigdogpictures.com/dog-picture-big-dog-pitbull-Artamnesia.jpg

IT'S GONNA GO FOR THE NECK!!!!!

The handgun or the Yukon will come to my rescue...:)

[Firebird]

The handgun or the Yukon will come to my rescue...:)

He has locking jaws...even if you shoot him, you'll be dead.

[BDB]

He has locking jaws...even if you shoot him, you'll be dead.

he also smells fear, and his only weakness is a rolled up news paper or spray-bottle filled with water.

[mad_fan]

He has locking jaws...even if you shoot him, you'll be dead.

No...I'm inside the Yukon...with the handgun...
And the three of us survive...;)

[svhorns]

so you see my point?

why outlaw a dog that takes years to finally assume the position of a deadly weapon in the wrong hands? anything can be seen as dangerous, even my laptop. if i threw my laptop in a bathtub with you lying in it, would it be considered dangerous?

No I don't see your point because I never said anything about outlawing... I'm just stating that they are a dangerous breed.

[mad_fan]

No I don't see your point because I never said anything about outlawing... I'm just stating that they are a dangerous breed.

We don't do 'middle of the road'...:)
It's either outlaw ALL DOGS or outlaw ALL SUVs (or ALL GUNS)...
Where do you stand???:rolleyes:

[Firebird]

We don't do 'middle of the road'...:)
It's either outlaw ALL DOGS or outlaw ALL SUVs (or ALL GUNS)...
Where do you stand???:rolleyes:
Your analogy is off.

Outlawing pitbulls and dangerous dogs= outlawing SUVs

Outlawing dogs=outlawing all cars and trucks

[mad_fan]

Your analogy is off.

MY analogy is just fine...
Make up your own...:D

[slorch]

whats with analgesic conversation?

Hope y'all have some cold brew and a hot grill while y'all are doing all this jabbering.:D

[BDB]

whats with analgesic conversation?

Hope y'all have some cold brew and a hot grill while y'all are doing all this jabbering.:D

green tea and idk what's goin on in the kitchen.

[mad_fan]

whats with analgesic conversation?

Hope y'all have some cold brew and a hot grill while y'all are doing all this jabbering.:D

ms mad outlawed beers...and open flames...
our pitbull is VERY upset...

[mad_fan]

green tea and idk what's goin on in the kitchen.

:notworthy...

[mad_fan]

whats with analgesic conversation?

Hope y'all have some cold brew and a hot grill while y'all are doing all this jabbering.:D

Just speaking for myself...well...check the post count...can't get it done in a Kobe thread...:D

[slorch]

Just speaking for myself...well...check the post count...can't get it done in a Kobe thread...:D

dedicate 17000 to Harold Carmichael?

[GoOwls]

Well, I noticed there were no smart a** comments posted about my real-life story in post #109....kind of hard to keyboard attack the real thing, isn't it.

It's one thing to sit behind a computer screen and write ridiculous idealistic mumbo-jumbo about what's right and wrong, and quite another to have lived it and actually have some working knowledge of the subject matter.

You're welcome, for the lesson....learn something for a change, boys.

[tayb]

Well, I noticed there were no smart a** comments posted about my real-life story in post #109....kind of hard to keyboard attack the real thing, isn't it.

It's one thing to sit behind a computer screen and write ridiculous idealistic mumbo-jumbo about what's right and wrong, and quite another to have lived it and actually have some working knowledge of the subject matter.

You're welcome, for the lesson....learn something for a change, boys.

See post 112.

You haven't taught anyone a lesson unless that lesson is ignorance and stupidity.

[GoOwls]

See post 112.

You haven't taught anyone a lesson unless that lesson is ignorance and stupidity.

.....two human traits you have mastered.