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SLCDad
12-22-2005, 04:34 PM
The all-time single season Quarterback Rating record in the NFL is held by Steve Young for his 1994 season. His rating was 112.8.

The rating is based on four factors:
1. Percentage of Completion
2. Average Yards Gained Per Attempt
3. Percentage of Touchdown Passes
4. Percentage of Interceptions.

NO POINTS are given for QB rushing yards.

Using the NFL rating formula, I calculated the rating for some notable high school QBs in the area.

Name....................Rating
Steve Young............112.8

Greg McElroy............131.7
Riley Dodge..............117.8
Matthew Stafford......138.5
Christian Ponder........101.0
Andy Dalton.............117.4
Trevor Vittatoe.........129.3
Mark Sfikas................76.7
Chase Daniel 2004.....120.4
Chase Daniel 2003.....125.4

I can calculate the QB rating for any QB if I have:
--Attempts
--Completions
--Interceptions
--Yards
--TDs

Post the numbers for your QB and I'll calculate the rating.

Does anyone have Chase Wasson's 2002 numbers? I would also like to calculate the ratings for the other top teams: Abilene, SV, Lufkin, etc.

Favpack
12-22-2005, 05:11 PM
From the Lufkin News on Jeremy Claybon

Claybon finished the season with 2,448 yards on 136-of-228 passing with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions. He also ran for 437 yards and eight touchdowns.

Not sure if that's all you need

FeeltheHaka
12-22-2005, 05:28 PM
This is interesting, Thank You for doing this. I have never really been a fan of QB ratings, because it does not take into account receivers dropping the pass, QB fumbles, QB rushing, Sacks, Passes thrown away because no receiver is open and making a good play out of nothing. Another thing I like is QB's who are deceptive.

SLCDad
12-22-2005, 05:29 PM
From the Lufkin News on Jeremy Claybon

Claybon finished the season with 2,448 yards on 136-of-228 passing with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions. He also ran for 437 yards and eight touchdowns.

Not sure if that's all you needJeremy Claybon rating would be 117.0. That's very high. Most of the QBs that I listed are the best ones that I had stats for.

SLCDad
12-22-2005, 05:44 PM
According to the official formula points in each category should be capped and not exceed a maximum points allowed per category. In the NFL this cap isn't used very often and wasn't needed for Steve Young's record season.

However, in these stats the caps were used several times. Greg McElroy's "TD per attempt" number was high so he got the max points allowed even though his stats were even higher in that category. Riley Dodge was the same (lots of TDs per attempt). Andy Dalton also was capped in the "TD per attempt" points.

Trevor Vittatoe had very high "yards per attempt" AND "TD per attempt" stats that would have resulted in a higher rating if the caps were not used. In fact, Vittatoe would have had the highest rating of any QB at 153.9 if the caps were not used. He didn't pass very often but when he did he was very effective. That's not surprising since EVERY defense would play to stop the run against Trinity which leaves the pass open.

The rating stats that I posted were according the official NFL rules.

jtk1519
12-22-2005, 06:34 PM
I have a few from the greater Abilene area...

Case Keenum - Abilene Wylie - 131.6... 100 of 171, 2417 yards, 20 TDs, 7 INTs
Taylor Potts - Abilene High - 103.1 (2005)... 227 of 346, 2990 yards, 22 TDs, 9 INTs
Taylor Potts - Abilene High - 130.3 (2004)... 169 of 257, 2870 yards, 27 TDs, 5 INTs
Colt McCoy - Jim Ned (now at Texas) - 141 :eek: (2004)... 194 of 308, 3710 yards, 46 TDs, 10 INTs

jtk1519
12-22-2005, 06:39 PM
I'll give you another very interesting rating...

While a senior at Houston Madison, Vince Young was 131 of 224 passing for 2545 yards and 35 TDs to just 4 INTs. That's a QB rating of 142.8 by NFL standards... and that doesn’t even include rushing stats. And to think there were people so unbelievably stupid as to say he couldn’t throw the ball. :rolleyes:

dragonsdaddy
12-22-2005, 06:42 PM
I'll give you another very interesting rating...

While a senior at Houston Madison, Vince Young was 131 of 224 passing for 2545 yards and 35 TDs to just 4 INTs. That's a QB rating of 142.8 by NFL standards... and that doesn’t even include rushing stats. And to think there were people so unbelievably stupid as to say he couldn’t throw the ball. :rolleyes:
there are some who might argue that his opponents weren't the best in the state. there are still lots of sports"experts" who don't think he'll be a pro qb. if he improves as much next year as he did this, they may just be wrong.

Favpack
12-22-2005, 06:49 PM
Jeremy Claybon rating would be 117.0. That's very high. Most of the QBs that I listed are the best ones that I had stats for.

Thanks Dad - if we can keep him healthy - Jeremy could have a special year next year.

SLCDad
12-22-2005, 08:42 PM
I have a few from the greater Abilene area...

Case Keenum - Abilene Wylie - 131.6... 100 of 171, 2417 yards, 20 TDs, 7 INTs
Taylor Potts - Abilene High - 103.1 (2005)... 227 of 346, 2990 yards, 22 TDs, 9 INTs
Taylor Potts - Abilene High - 130.3 (2004)... 169 of 257, 2870 yards, 27 TDs, 5 INTs
Colt McCoy - Jim Ned (now at Texas) - 141 :eek: (2004)... 194 of 308, 3710 yards, 46 TDs, 10 INTsThese ratings aren't exactly correct. When I calculated the ratings I came up with the exact same numbers, however in two cases the QB exceeded the maximum points in a category. Therefore the ratings need to be adjusted downward.

Here are the correct QB ratings:

Case Keenum 124.8
Taylor Potts 2005 103.1
Taylor Potts 2004 130.3
Colt McCoy 130.8

Keenum was over the max in Yards per Attempt and McCoy was over the max in TDs per Attempt.

SLCDad
12-22-2005, 08:46 PM
I'll give you another very interesting rating...

While a senior at Houston Madison, Vince Young was 131 of 224 passing for 2545 yards and 35 TDs to just 4 INTs. That's a QB rating of 142.8 by NFL standards... and that doesn’t even include rushing stats. And to think there were people so unbelievably stupid as to say he couldn’t throw the ball. :rolleyes:This rating isn't exactly right either. Vince Young was over the maximum points allowed for TD's per attempt.

When his rating is adjusted for that, that actual rating is:

Vince Young 130.3

dragons08
12-22-2005, 10:35 PM
wahts the acutal equation?

for college and nfl?

AG8411
12-22-2005, 10:45 PM
ROSS JENKINS LANGHAM CREEK;

NFL Rating: 107.82
NCAA Rating: 161.83

297-202-11; 2597 yds. 25 TD's

here's a link to check the rankings; http://football.stassen.com/pass-eff/

SLCDad
12-22-2005, 11:19 PM
Here is a link to the formula and each category. They also discuss the issue of maximum points for each category. http://www.supernfl.com/QBRating.html

Here is another calculator: http://home.new.rr.com/rosslahaye/

I wasn't aware of these calculators. I've been doing all of my calculations in an Excel spreadsheet but my calculations agree with the on-line calculator.

jtk1519
12-22-2005, 11:46 PM
I just used this calculator for all the numbers I posted...

http://www.footballguys.com/qbrating.htm

football fanatic
12-24-2005, 12:38 PM
i just did McElroy's and it was a 237.1.

The Great Evaluator
12-24-2005, 06:37 PM
Pretty good numbers for Vittatoe, a guy who many on this board didn't think could get it done.

SLCDad
12-24-2005, 10:22 PM
Pretty good numbers for Vittatoe, a guy who many on this board didn't think could get it done.I'm not knocking Vittatoe but let's remember that every defense he faced was playing heavily to stop the run. Unlike a few of the other QBs he wasn't facing very many back in coverage.

TrojanHorse03
12-25-2005, 04:49 PM
I'm not knocking Vittatoe but let's remember that every defense he faced was playing heavily to stop the run. Unlike a few of the other QBs he wasn't facing very many back in coverage.

I wouldn't go there, their can be a knock on any qb such as McElroy having the state's best collection of receivers and being in system designed to put up BIG passing numbers. Very few praise was doled out to the receivers Trevor was throwing to, yet few qbs could burn a defense in spite of limited attempts like he did this year. ALL the qbs mention are 100% worthy of their ratings.

The Great Evaluator
12-31-2005, 05:45 PM
I wouldn't go there, their can be a knock on any qb such as McElroy having the state's best collection of receivers and being in system designed to put up BIG passing numbers. Very few praise was doled out to the receivers Trevor was throwing to, yet few qbs could burn a defense in spite of limited attempts like he did this year. ALL the qbs mention are 100% worthy of their ratings.
A very good point! It seems like whenever someone from Trinity gets any praise it has to be qualified. Having said that, he did have the advantage of not having to read coverages because other teams had to sell out to stop the state's best rushing attack. If you look back at his numbers from last year and this year they are close to what a Carroll Qb would put up in a normal year. In other words he took advantage of the system that he was working with - just like the Carroll Quarterbacks. In all fairness, Trevor isn't going to be making an impact at the next level like Daniel and McEleroy but give him his due, he was a very good Quarterback!

SLCDad
01-01-2006, 07:48 PM
A very good point! It seems like whenever someone from Trinity gets any praise it has to be qualified. Having said that, he did have the advantage of not having to read coverages because other teams had to sell out to stop the state's best rushing attack. If you look back at his numbers from last year and this year they are close to what a Carroll Qb would put up in a normal year. In other words he took advantage of the system that he was working with - just like the Carroll Quarterbacks. In all fairness, Trevor isn't going to be making an impact at the next level like Daniel and McEleroy but give him his due, he was a very good Quarterback!I agree with that. Vittatoe was a great QB but probably not as good as his rating indicates compared to the other great QBs.

The Great Evaluator
01-02-2006, 10:08 PM
The games i saw, he had guys running wide open. It was comical to see teams have to sell out on the run to the point that no receiver was ever double covered. I still give Trevor credit because you still have to make the throws. Their offense this year was really unique. Polar opposite of Carroll. 3rd and 7 or less was still a running down and they almost always picked that up, very rare to see that these days.

wide-e-wide
01-03-2006, 12:00 AM
This rating isn't exactly right either. Vince Young was over the maximum points allowed for TD's per attempt.

When his rating is adjusted for that, that actual rating is:

Vince Young 130.3


Well that confirms it......Greg McElroy is a better QB than Vince Young...:rolleyes:

Ladypack34
01-03-2006, 12:19 AM
Well that confirms it......Greg McElroy is a better QB than Vince Young...:rolleyes:

yup...so maybe we should call coach brown and tell him to take McElroy to play in the rose bowl...instead of vince....:rolleyes:

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GO TEXAS!!!!!! GO VINCE!!!!! and HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!

Oiler1
01-04-2006, 02:23 PM
I thought the young Sophmore QB at Clear Creek did pretty well until I put his numbers in. Biggest problem with his stats is that he threw to many picks at the beginning of the season.

Warden's numbers -

Att. 223 Comp. 123 Yds. 1546 Td. 11 Int. 13

Rating - 69.1

He is young and will have two seasons to improve and has four of his six targets returing. With one of those being the top receiver in the district. Good start but obviously not as good as some of his peers.

OC2SLC
01-08-2006, 04:40 AM
yup...so maybe we should call coach brown and tell him to take McElroy to play in the rose bowl...instead of vince....:rolleyes:

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GO TEXAS!!!!!! GO VINCE!!!!! and HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!

Yeah, then Greg could have made that lucky-*** run into the endzone with 30 seconds left hahahaha ;)