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Pool Man
04-30-2009, 04:15 PM
A guy told me today that he once thought the only way Obama would get elected was when pigs fly, and now 100 days into the administration we have swine flu.:eek:

F18mustang
04-30-2009, 04:16 PM
I heard that today also. It'll be a better joke when H1N1 goes airborne.

SeguinMatadors
04-30-2009, 04:33 PM
That racist joke has been "flying" around everywhere.

Stimulates from " A black man will be elected president when pigs fly".

The King
04-30-2009, 04:56 PM
A true communist needs to strike fear in the populous in order to get them to go along with his terrible ideas.

drizzydrake01
04-30-2009, 08:18 PM
i'm sure obama has NOTHING to do with the swine flu...

but hey a black mans in office lets just make jokes about it..
sounds GRRRRREEEEAAAT

mad_fan
04-30-2009, 08:20 PM
That racist joke has been "flying" around everywhere.

Stimulates from " A black man will be elected president when pigs fly".

Neither one stimulate me...:rolleyes:

PESHpanther
04-30-2009, 08:32 PM
ya just like how bush planned 9/11 or was responsible for katrina. it works both ways

BDB
04-30-2009, 08:39 PM
ya just like how bush planned 9/11 or was responsible for the aftermath of katrina. it works both ways

his bad, on that one.

BDB
04-30-2009, 08:46 PM
A true facist needs to strike fear in the populous in order to get them to go along with his terrible ideas.

fify

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svhorns
04-30-2009, 08:48 PM
i'm sure obama has NOTHING to do with the swine flu...

but hey a black mans in office lets just make jokes about it..
sounds GRRRRREEEEAAAT

Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy!

EagleDude73
04-30-2009, 09:59 PM
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JOH
04-30-2009, 10:02 PM
fify

http://www.uncoveror.com/niger.jpg

http://upload.moldova.org/politicom/faces/Saddam_Hussein_5.jpg

http://roadkillrefugee.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/mission-accomplished.png

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Slim-Rob
04-30-2009, 11:11 PM
i'm sure obama has NOTHING to do with the swine flu...

but hey a black mans in office lets just make jokes about it..
sounds GRRRRREEEEAAAT


Nice first post, welcome to the board :rolleyes:

It's a joke, get over it.


People are so damn sensitive these days.

Dawg Fan
04-30-2009, 11:45 PM
i'm sure obama has NOTHING to do with the swine flu...

but hey a black mans in office lets just make jokes about it..
sounds GRRRRREEEEAAAT

LOL:rolleyes:

Pool Man
05-01-2009, 11:57 AM
That racist joke has been "flying" around everywhere.

Stimulates from " A black man will be elected president when pigs fly".

i'm sure obama has NOTHING to do with the swine flu...

but hey a black mans in office lets just make jokes about it..
sounds GRRRRREEEEAAAT


Actually, when it was told to me, there wasn't anything mentioned about his skin color. The joke I heard was all about his liberal, socialistic type policies. Nonetheless, it was the first time I had heard it, and thought it funny. Sorry that some of you misunderstood.

KLH75287
05-01-2009, 12:21 PM
i'm sure obama has NOTHING to do with the swine flu...
but hey a black mans in office lets just make jokes about it..
sounds GRRRRREEEEAAAT

Over 54,000 people die every year in this country from influenza.I think it is a test coordinated by the North American Union to see how well our government infrastructure can deal with biological warfare.

Either that or an Alien attack.

b756561
05-01-2009, 12:30 PM
i'm sure obama has NOTHING to do with the swine flu...

but hey a black mans in office lets just make jokes about it..
sounds GRRRRREEEEAAAT

Soooo, just because he's half-black we can't make jokes about him? Is it alright if we make jokes about his half-white part? I assume that is different and therefore it would be acceptable. I mean that's not racism if we make fun of the white part. Bush was totally white and you know how many jokes were made at his expense. But hey, I understand, you can't joke about Obama. He's half-black and that would be racist.

jrock210
05-01-2009, 08:09 PM
A guy told me today that he once thought the only way Obama would get elected was when pigs fly, and now 100 days into the administration swine flu.:eek:

fify

It's meant to say swine flew instead of "we have swine flu" it's "swine flu"

drizzydrake01
05-01-2009, 08:25 PM
Soooo, just because he's half-black we can't make jokes about him? Is it alright if we make jokes about his half-white part? I assume that is different and therefore it would be acceptable. I mean that's not racism if we make fun of the white part. Bush was totally white and you know how many jokes were made at his expense. But hey, I understand, you can't joke about Obama. He's half-black and that would be racist.

alright bud.. you can make jokes about whoever you want to make jokes about.. idc if someones half black half white cause i am myself? Its just the joke a black man will be president when pigs fly... i dont like that part? it doesnt have to be a black person to be racist? so idk what you were really talking about? but hey its cool.;)

drizzydrake01
05-01-2009, 08:29 PM
Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy!

you got it.. i didnt think anyone on here would know..i'm surprised..you heard im singin/rappin now?:)

SeguinMatadors
05-01-2009, 08:31 PM
you got it.. i didnt think anyone on here would know..i'm surprised..you heard im singin/rappin now?:)

Lets hear your stuff man.

jrock210
05-01-2009, 08:31 PM
alright bud.. you can make jokes about whoever you want to make jokes about.. idc if someones half black half white cause i am myself? Its just the joke a black man will be president when pigs fly... i dont like that part? it doesnt have to be a black person to be racist? so idk what you were really talking about? but hey its cool.;)

I don't think the joke was meant ot be racist.
Plus it's a forwarded text message/email chain.
And I actually have heard a black guy say "The day a black man is a president is the day pigs will fly."

JOH
05-01-2009, 08:32 PM
fify

It's meant to say swine flew instead of "we have swine flu" it's "swine flu"

Actually, it would be COMMA, SWINE FLU.

jrock210
05-01-2009, 08:35 PM
Actually, it would be COMMA, SWINE FLU.
OK I'll show you the difference.

Original:
A guy told me today that he once thought the only way Obama would get elected was when pigs fly, and now 100 days into the administration we have swine flu.:eek:

FIFY:
A guy told me today that he once thought the only way Obama would get elected was when pigs fly, and now 100 days into the administration swine flu.:eek:

JOH
05-01-2009, 08:39 PM
OK I'll show you the difference.

Original:


FIFY:

You add a comma, friend. Its like saying - "And now, swine flu"


A guy told me today that he once thought the only way Obama would get elected was when pigs fly, and now 100 days into the administration, swine flu.

or

A guy told me today that he once thought the only way Obama would get elected was when pigs fly, and now 100 days into the administration: swine flu

JMSFan
05-01-2009, 08:49 PM
his bad, on that one.

Ray Nagin and Kathleen Blanco are just as much to blame for the whole katrina aftermath too.

JMSFan
05-01-2009, 08:53 PM
alright bud.. you can make jokes about whoever you want to make jokes about.. idc if someones half black half white cause i am myself? Its just the joke a black man will be president when pigs fly... i dont like that part? it doesnt have to be a black person to be racist? so idk what you were really talking about? but hey its cool.;)

uh, you were the first to bring it up... just sayin.

drgnbkr
05-01-2009, 09:15 PM
That racist joke has been "flying" around everywhere.

Stimulates from " A black man will be elected president when pigs fly".

Yeah...whatever...:rolleyes:

Slim-Rob
05-01-2009, 10:01 PM
You add a comma, friend. Its like saying - "And now, swine flu"


A guy told me today that he once thought the only way Obama would get elected was when pigs fly, and now 100 days into the administration, swine flu.

or

A guy told me today that he once thought the only way Obama would get elected was when pigs fly, and now 100 days into the administration: swine flu


THIS^^^

And he's trying to argue with you, lol

drizzydrake01
05-02-2009, 02:36 PM
Lets hear your stuff man.

just look up drake..

Aggies2009
05-02-2009, 02:43 PM
alright bud.. you can make jokes about whoever you want to make jokes about.. idc if someones half black half white cause i am myself? Its just the joke a black man will be president when pigs fly... i dont like that part? it doesnt have to be a black person to be racist? so idk what you were really talking about? but hey its cool.;)

Hey, it was all of you who kept claiming, "We'll NEVER have a black man as president...." So... Kinda like how they call each other n-word, but if a white person does it it's suddenly a hate crime.

BDB
05-02-2009, 02:47 PM
Hey, it was all of you who kept claiming, "We'll NEVER have a black man as president...." So... Kinda like how they call each other n-word, but if a white person does it it's suddenly a hate crime.

sometimes, you come off as a regular guy.... then you have these moments.

this is a stfu moment, that i think you should REAAAALLY stick to. i agree that it's a joke (tasteless, but still a joke) but your post above is pretty ridiculous. infact, i'm happy t-long or someone a bit militant over the issue isn't online right now or else i would have to try to calm them down after reading your post.

Aggies2009
05-02-2009, 02:53 PM
sometimes, you come off as a regular guy.... then you have these moments.

this is a stfu moment, that i think you should REAAAALLY stick to. i agree that it's a joke (tasteless, but still a joke) but your post above is pretty ridiculous. infact, i'm happy t-long or someone a bit militant over the issue isn't online right now or else i would have to try to calm them down after reading your post.

They can deal with it and so can you. Or cry more... I don't care. What I said was valid. I heard many of my black friends saying that we'd never have a black president. It's all of a sudden offensive to say, "We'll have a black president when pigs fly"? Because I heard it quite a bit. And I compared it to that, a valid comparison in my opinion. When one person says something, it's fine, but when another says it, it's offensive.

BDB
05-02-2009, 02:58 PM
They can deal with it and so can you. Or cry more... I don't care. What I said was valid. I heard many of my black friends saying that we'd never have a black president. It's all of a sudden offensive to say, "We'll have a black president when pigs fly"? Because I heard it quite a bit. And I compared it to that, a valid comparison in my opinion. When one person says something, it's fine, but when another says it, it's offensive.

like i said, the joke has nothing to do with it. it's a joke and it is what it is. it's the "i can say it cuz you say it" mentality that's flawed. the reason I can't call dada the n-word or the same way he can't call me a spick (unless, for some reason, it's agreed upon) is because I have no idea what he's gone through in life and HE doesn't know what i've gone through in life.

it's no different for you, either.

Aggies2009
05-02-2009, 03:00 PM
like i said, the joke has nothing to do with it. it's a joke and it is what it is. it's the "i can say it cuz you say it" mentality that's flawed. the reason I can't call dada the n-word or the same way he can't call me a spick (unless, for some reason, it's agreed upon) is because I have no idea what he's gone through in life and HE doesn't know what i've gone through in life.

it's no different for you, either.

No no. I'm not saying I can say it. In fact, quite the opposite. I'm saying NOBODY should say it.

BDB
05-02-2009, 03:02 PM
No no. I'm not saying I can say it. In fact, quite the opposite. I'm saying NOBODY should say it.

i've called some friends beaner and moj..... i have the right to.

Aggies2009
05-02-2009, 03:04 PM
i've called some friends beaner and moj..... i have the right to.

You have the right to? I mean, we ALL technically have the right to, as given by the Bill of Rights. It's just disrespectful no matter who says it. That's what I think.

BDB
05-02-2009, 03:10 PM
You have the right to? I mean, we ALL technically have the right to, as given by the Bill of Rights. It's just disrespectful no matter who says it. That's what I think.

it's disrespectful if YOU say it because YOU haven't gone through it. the day i drip you in brown shoe polish with some loc's and a wife-beater and we ride through the east-texas/louisiana and you feel the resentment and hate the way me and my friends have is the day you get to call me whatever you want.

until that day comes, accept the fact there are words in the world that are off-limits to certain people.

JMSFan
05-02-2009, 03:21 PM
it's disrespectful if YOU say it because YOU haven't gone through it. the day i drip you in brown shoe polish with some loc's and a wife-beater and we ride through the east-texas/louisiana and you feel the resentment and hate the way me and my friends have is the day you get to call me whatever you want.

until that day comes, accept the fact there are words in the world that are off-limits to certain people.

All of east Texas area and Louisiana are resentful and hateful towards the brown man? :rolleyes:

mad_fan
05-02-2009, 03:36 PM
it's disrespectful if YOU say it because YOU haven't gone through it. the day i drip you in brown shoe polish with some loc's and a wife-beater and we ride through the east-texas/louisiana and you feel the resentment and hate the way me and my friends have is the day you get to call me whatever you want.

until that day comes, accept the fact there are words in the world that are off-limits to certain people.

Except me...
I was the white guy at the hotel near I35 and Rittiman (in San Antonio) a couple of weeks ago...:Music

BDB
05-02-2009, 03:41 PM
All of east Texas area and Louisiana are resentful and hateful towards the brown man? :rolleyes:

not all. but that's where i hit the biggest wall on my way to florida.

don't put words in my mouth.

BDB
05-02-2009, 03:42 PM
Except me...
I was the white guy at the hotel near I35 and Rittiman (in San Antonio) a couple of weeks ago...:Music

mad.... you're a white/black/brown/irish/catholic/ect.

it's almost like talking to an enigma....

Aggies2009
05-02-2009, 06:38 PM
it's disrespectful if YOU say it because YOU haven't gone through it. the day i drip you in brown shoe polish with some loc's and a wife-beater and we ride through the east-texas/louisiana and you feel the resentment and hate the way me and my friends have is the day you get to call me whatever you want.

until that day comes, accept the fact there are words in the world that are off-limits to certain people.

I haven't gone through it? No black person today has gone through slavery, and very few have gone through the pre-60s times. And YOU feel resentment? There aren't reverse-affirmative actions protecting me from many things and giving me free rides anywhere. I get resented BY people who have hate in their hearts, black, white, mexican, whatever. So I guess I can just call those people whatever I want now?

The fact is, the word is disrespectful and has bad connotations. Because you think it's cool or funny to say it to a friend in a jocular manner doesn't change that.

yallerjacket2
05-02-2009, 06:50 PM
I haven't gone through it? No black person today has gone through slavery, and very few have gone through the pre-60s times. And YOU feel resentment? There aren't reverse-affirmative actions protecting me from many things and giving me free rides anywhere. I get resented BY people who have hate in their hearts, black, white, mexican, whatever. So I guess I can just call those people whatever I want now?

The fact is, the word is disrespectful and has bad connotations. Because you think it's cool or funny to say it to a friend in a jocular manner doesn't change that.

Another STFU moment. Words are not disrespectful and don't have bad connotations if the two friends exchanging those words are cool with it. You are coming across as quite the bitter racist.

BDB
05-02-2009, 07:21 PM
Another STFU moment. Words are not disrespectful and don't have bad connotations if the two friends exchanging those words are cool with it. You are coming across as quite the bitter racist.

this + you understand that there's still some forms of civic unrest with minorities in this country?

yankee
05-02-2009, 07:26 PM
i'm just a stupid cracker.

BDB
05-02-2009, 07:29 PM
i'm just a stupid cracker.

lawlz http://www.jive-turkey.net/jive-turkey.gif

JOH
05-02-2009, 09:39 PM
The fact is, the word is disrespectful and has bad connotations. Because you think it's cool or funny to say it to a friend in a jocular manner doesn't change that.


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

;) It may be wrong, but its oh so right.

jrock210
05-02-2009, 11:34 PM
You add a comma, friend. Its like saying - "And now, swine flu"


A guy told me today that he once thought the only way Obama would get elected was when pigs fly, and now 100 days into the administration, swine flu.

or

A guy told me today that he once thought the only way Obama would get elected was when pigs fly, and now 100 days into the administration: swine flu

Ya gotcha!
Good stuff JOH

Dawg Fan
05-03-2009, 12:59 AM
the double standard is alive and well and stronger now than ever. No one earns the right to say disrespectful things to anyone. If you want to say a certain word is disrespectful then it goes for everyone. Even Richard Pryor stopped using those derogatory words in his act. If you use them then stfu if anyone else does.

b756561
05-03-2009, 01:39 AM
alright bud.. you can make jokes about whoever you want to make jokes about.. idc if someones half black half white cause i am myself? Its just the joke a black man will be president when pigs fly... i dont like that part? it doesnt have to be a black person to be racist? so idk what you were really talking about? but hey its cool.;)

I tried to make my point in a light-hearted way. What I was trying to say was Racism is Racism is Racism. Anyone can do it and no matter who does it, it's wrong. I was also trying to say that just because someone is making fun of Obama does not automatically make that person a racist. When someone made fun of Bush, were they automatically labeled a Racist? If not, then why is someone making fun of Obama automatically labeled a Racist. And I am not refering to the pig joke. Even the newscasters are complaining that it is hard to say something negative about the president because as soon as they do, people start complaining about them being Racist. He's the president. He is not going to be correct 100% of the time. When he is wrong, we have to be able to call him on it without having to fear we will be labeled a Racist because of our criticism. That term is so vastly overused now that I, for one, am tired of hearing it. We need to be careful of how we use that term or it could very easily spark a backlash and we don't need that.

http://smiliesftw.com/x/ohhhPOOPOO.gif

Aggies2009
05-03-2009, 04:36 AM
the double standard is alive and well and stronger now than ever. No one earns the right to say disrespectful things to anyone. If you want to say a certain word is disrespectful then it goes for everyone. Even Richard Pryor stopped using those derogatory words in his act. If you use them then stfu if anyone else does.

Amen. I love how they only find it disrespectful from SOME people (and not even necessarily the ones who made their lives OH so difficult since, you know, they can TELL who hates them and who doesn't just by looking at them). If a word is bad, it's bad.

yallerjacket2
05-03-2009, 06:56 AM
Amen. I love how they only find it disrespectful from SOME people (and not even necessarily the ones who made their lives OH so difficult since, you know, they can TELL who hates them and who doesn't just by looking at them). If a word is bad, it's bad.

You're just wrong on this. Period. If you are with friends and one of them calls you an idiot, jokingly, will you take offense? What if a stranger who doesn't know you calls you an idiot? Is there a difference? Apparently, it wouldn't matter to you since the word would mean the same thing to you no matter the context or who said it.

JMSFan
05-03-2009, 08:44 AM
You're just wrong on this. Period. If you are with friends and one of them calls you an idiot, jokingly, will you take offense? What if a stranger who doesn't know you calls you an idiot? Is there a difference? Apparently, it wouldn't matter to you since the word would mean the same thing to you no matter the context or who said it.

None of this had to do with calling someone an idiot. Calling someone a name and making racial slurs are 2 different things. And yea, b756561 is right. Racism is racism is racism. Its a 2 way street, although some dont tend to think so.

slorch
05-03-2009, 09:00 AM
this + you understand that there's still some forms of civic unrest with minorities in this country?

why?

yallerjacket2
05-03-2009, 09:16 AM
Racism is racism is racism. Its a 2 way street, although some dont tend to think so.

I agree. A black person calling another black person the N word is not racism though. If I called you honkey or cracker, is that racism?

JMSFan
05-03-2009, 09:26 AM
I agree. A black person calling another black person the N word is not racism though. If I called you honkey or cracker, is that racism?

I see what you did there. It may not be "racism", but still, its a slur. I know plenty of black people who find that word offensive and wont put up with another black person calling them that.

yallerjacket2
05-03-2009, 09:32 AM
I see what you did there. It may not be "racism", but still, its a slur. I know plenty of black people who find that word offensive and wont put up with another black person calling them that.

And I don't think they should. I just get tired of hearing people say, "Well, If I can't say it, neither can they." "Double standard!" Even if it's not right, it's certainly not the same as a white person saying it. In one case, it is racism. In the other case, it is not.

slorch
05-03-2009, 09:40 AM
And I don't think they should. I just get tired of hearing people say, "Well, If I can't say it, neither can they." "Double standard!" Even if it's not right, it's certainly not the same as a white person saying it. In one case, it is racism. In the other case, it is not.

thus...the double standard.

denial is a helluva drug.

yallerjacket2
05-03-2009, 09:48 AM
thus...the double standard.

denial is a helluva drug.

What? If both scenarios constituted racism, but one was accepted and the other not accepted, that would be a double standard.

mad_fan
05-03-2009, 09:55 AM
I agree. A black person calling another black person the N word is not racism though. If I called you honkey or cracker, is that racism?

Isn't that to be defined by the receipient of the comment???
I don't even tan well...and have black and mexican friends that I call 'unacceptable' names...

JMSFan
05-03-2009, 09:56 AM
And I don't think they should. I just get tired of hearing people say, "Well, If I can't say it, neither can they." "Double standard!" Even if it's not right, it's certainly not the same as a white person saying it. In one case, it is racism. In the other case, it is not.

But it cant be "ok for one because they earned the right" and not ok for the other. Right is right and wrong is wrong.

JMSFan
05-03-2009, 10:06 AM
Isn't that to be defined by the receipient of the comment???
I don't even tan well...and have black and mexican friends that I call 'unacceptable' names...

My wife calls me unacceptable names sometimes. It hurts my feelings.

yallerjacket2
05-03-2009, 10:19 AM
But it cant be "ok for one because they earned the right" and not ok for the other. Right is right and wrong is wrong.

We're talking about two different actions here. Not the same action by different people. One action is hateful and hurtful. The other may not seem right to you, but it doesn't hurt anybody. You can't just say "It can't be okay for one and not for the other." If I slap my wife on the hiney, she's okay with that. If you slap my wife on the hiney, I will put you on your hiney. That's just the way it works.

JMSFan
05-03-2009, 10:21 AM
What? If both scenarios constituted racism, but one was accepted and the other not accepted, that would be a double standard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ-Okkpgeh4

yallerjacket2
05-03-2009, 10:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ-Okkpgeh4

I'm at work. Can't see youtube.

Someone else will have to let me know if I got pwned or something.

Dawg Fan
05-03-2009, 01:11 PM
We're talking about two different actions here. Not the same action by different people. One action is hateful and hurtful. The other may not seem right to you, but it doesn't hurt anybody. You can't just say "It can't be okay for one and not for the other." If I slap my wife on the hiney, she's okay with that. If you slap my wife on the hiney, I will put you on your hiney. That's just the way it works.

bullsh*t....it is either right or it is wrong and all the spin you want to use doesn't change that. This selective crap is ridiculous. Using the example of a physical slap is not even the same thing....apples and oranges. Either the word is acceptable or it is not. It can't be ok for one and not for another no matter how it is used.

yallerjacket2
05-03-2009, 01:12 PM
bullsh*t....it is either right or it is wrong and all the spin you want to use doesn't change that. This selective crap is ridiculous. Using the example of a physical slap is not even the same thing....apples and oranges. Either the word is acceptable or it is not. It can't be ok for one and not for another no matter how it is used.

You're wrong.

Dawg Fan
05-03-2009, 01:14 PM
You're wrong.

not at all, you can't have it both ways

yallerjacket2
05-03-2009, 01:28 PM
not at all, you can't have it both ways

Why not?

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 01:49 PM
another stfu moment. Words are not disrespectful and don't have bad connotations if the two friends exchanging those words are cool with it. You are coming across as quite the bitter racist.

this.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 01:51 PM
the double standard is alive and well and stronger now than ever. No one earns the right to say disrespectful things to anyone. If you want to say a certain word is disrespectful then it goes for everyone. Even Richard Pryor stopped using those derogatory words in his act. If you use them then stfu if anyone else does.

Coming from the biggest racist on the board.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 01:53 PM
I tried to make my point in a light-hearted way. What I was trying to say was Racism is Racism is Racism. Anyone can do it and no matter who does it, it's wrong. I was also trying to say that just because someone is making fun of Obama does not automatically make that person a racist. When someone made fun of Bush, were they automatically labeled a Racist? If not, then why is someone making fun of Obama automatically labeled a Racist. And I am not refering to the pig joke. Even the newscasters are complaining that it is hard to say something negative about the president because as soon as they do, people start complaining about them being Racist. He's the president. He is not going to be correct 100% of the time. When he is wrong, we have to be able to call him on it without having to fear we will be labeled a Racist because of our criticism. That term is so vastly overused now that I, for one, am tired of hearing it. We need to be careful of how we use that term or it could very easily spark a backlash and we don't need that.

http://smiliesftw.com/x/ohhhPOOPOO.gif

I have no problem with someone disagreeing with the president. However, the joke was distasteful and clearly had racial undertones.

slorch
05-03-2009, 02:49 PM
I have no problem with someone disagreeing with the president. However, the joke was distasteful and clearly had racial undertones.

there are ZERO racial undertones, overtones or anything having to do with race.

Hypersensitivity training is confusing the hell out of people...:rolleyes::Censor:

JOH
05-03-2009, 03:11 PM
there are ZERO racial undertones, overtones or anything having to do with race.

Hypersensitivity training is confusing the hell out of people...:rolleyes::Censor:

Someone told me thath the other day, after telling their messy child to, "Stop eating like a black man".

drizzydrake01
05-03-2009, 03:21 PM
okay.. my spin on racism..you know who you know if there black, white, asian, hispanic anything the people you know and the relationships you have with those people i think designates what you call them and how you act towards them..okay if your friends and you can joke around calling them words that may be disrespectful to a stranger than okay do it..but you cant say those words to strangers because you have no relationship with them..its just know what to say and when to say it..a joke is a joke okay but you have to know when not to say something.. if thats a double standard than okay..i'm half black half white and i've been called the N word and i've called people the N word..if a stranger was to call me that than i would take offense..but my best friend calling me that is different? its a personal take on it.. the obama joke okay its funny.. i wouldnt say its exactly rascist just kinda messed up i'd say.. but yeah

Taterbug
05-03-2009, 03:30 PM
okay.. my spin on racism..you know who you know if there black, white, asian, hispanic anything the people you know and the relationships you have with those people i think designates what you call them and how you act towards them..okay if your friends and you can joke around calling them words that may be disrespectful to a stranger than okay do it..but you cant say those words to strangers because you have no relationship with them..its just know what to say and when to say it..a joke is a joke okay but you have to know when not to say something.. if thats a double standard than okay..i'm half black half white and i've been called the N word and i've called people the N word..if a stranger was to call me that than i would take offense..but my best friend calling me that is different? its a personal take on it.. the obama joke okay its funny.. i wouldnt say its exactly rascist just kinda messed up i'd say.. but yeah

And that my friend, is a double standard.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 03:53 PM
there are ZERO racial undertones, overtones or anything having to do with race.

Hypersensitivity training is confusing the hell out of people...:rolleyes::Censor:

That's some BS and you know it. It ain't just this little thing. It's all the time.That is the problem with a lot of old white folk'. They want to be racist and not be racist at the same time. They want to act like they are these liberators but they continue to oppress with their thoughts and discriminatory generalizations. I hear it every time I sit down at a poker table with middle aged white men. They think they can just make under the table racist remarks and aint' no one going to call them out on it.

Then when you call them out on it they get all uncomfortable and defensive. I simply ask them, "would you have said the same thing if you were sitting at the same table with a bunch of black men?" In their hearts they know they wouldn't... and that in itself is a testament to the hate in their words.

slorch
05-03-2009, 04:41 PM
That's some BS and you know it. It ain't just this little thing. It's all the time.That is the problem with a lot of old white folk'. They want to be racist and not be racist at the same time. They want to act like they are these liberators but they continue to oppress with their thoughts and discriminatory generalizations. I hear it every time I sit down at a poker table with middle aged white men. They think they can just make under the table racist remarks and aint' no one going to call them out on it.

Then when you call them out on it they get all uncomfortable and defensive. I simply ask them, "would you have said the same thing if you were sitting at the same table with a bunch of black men?" In their hearts they know they wouldn't... and that in itself is a testament to the hate in their words.

so explain to me what is racist about the swine flu joke.

enlighten me...:rolleyes:

I don't have to qualify my experience other than to say I've served with, prayed with, worked alongside, and lived with many, many differerent types of folks. Your assumptions sicken me, as you don't have the slightiest ******* idea what the **** you're talking about. The joke sounds like it might be offensive to someone, so it must be racist. WTF ever...:cool:

additionally, i have nothing to do with your poker buddies.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 04:56 PM
so explain to me what is racist about the swine flu joke.

enlighten me...:rolleyes:

I don't have to qualify my experience other than to say I've served with, prayed with, worked alongside, and lived with many, many differerent types of folks. Your assumptions sicken me, as you don't have the slightiest ******* idea what the **** you're talking about. The joke sounds like it might be offensive to someone, so it must be racist. WTF ever...:cool:

I really don't care where or what you have served. There have been Christian ministers who have condemned gay people yet got caught hookin up with dudes. You aren't free of guilt by association to minorities. Sorry pal. Good try.

We both know that the joke is insinuating that a black man could never be president just how a pig could never fly. I do not know if you are racist or not but I gurantee you that you aren't making that joke with a group of random black folks. Why? because at the worst it is an possibly offensive joke. But hey, You can sit on here all you want behind your computer screen and be a hard ***. Doesn't bother me.

mad_fan
05-03-2009, 05:00 PM
I really don't care where or what you have served. There have been Christian ministers who have condemned gay people yet got caught hookin up with dudes. You aren't free of guilt by association to minorities. Sorry pal. Good try.

We both know that the joke is insinuating that a black man could never be president just how a pig could never fly. I do not know if you are racist or not but I gurantee you that you aren't making that joke with a group of random black folks. Why? because at the worst it is an possibly offensive joke. But hey, You can sit on here all you want behind your computer screen and be a hard ***. Doesn't bother me.

I wouldn't tell that joke to a group of randon white folks...

slorch
05-03-2009, 05:02 PM
I really don't care where or what you have served. There have been Christian ministers who have condemned gay people yet got caught hookin up with dudes. You aren't free of guilt by association to minorities. Sorry pal. Good try.

We both know that the joke is insinuating that a black man could never be president just how a pig could never fly. I do not know if you are racist or not but I gurantee you that you aren't making that joke with a group of random black folks. Why? because at the worst it is an possibly offensive joke. But hey, You can sit on here all you want behind your computer screen and be a hard ***. Doesn't bother me.

what bothers me is your generalizations about my assessment because of who you hang out with.

That would be blatant ignorance my friend.

Joking about the unlikely election of an African American president isn't necessarily racism, but actually commentary on the evident close-mindedness of our society, but lo and behold, what happened?

We are headed for terrible, terrible interpersonal relationships in our society if everyone continues to focus on being offended and finding fault in every statement that is made between people.

You discount my experience. I say you need some.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 05:04 PM
I wouldn't tell that joke to a group of randon white folks...

Me either. Though i did hear it the other night playing poker..

"Hey guys.... did yall get that text joke about obama today"

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 05:09 PM
what bothers me is your generalizations about my assessment because of who you hang out with.

That would be blatant ignorance my friend.

Joking about the unlikely election of an African American president isn't necessarily racism, but actually commentary on the evident close-mindedness of our society, but lo and behold, what happened?

We are headed for terrible, terrible interpersonal relationships in our society if everyone continues to focus on being offended and finding fault in every statement that is made between people.

You discount my experience. I say you need some.

If a joke is racially insensative yet you persist to tell it and/or laugh and encourage it.... that is perpetuating racism. Regardless of who/where/ what you have done.

slorch
05-03-2009, 05:18 PM
If a joke is racially insensative yet you persist to tell it and/or laugh and encourage it.... that is perpetuating racism. Regardless of who/where/ what you have done.

You haven't told me how it is racially insensitive(LMAO)

Seeing as no black man had ever even been a serious candidate for president, and no, Jesse Jackson was never going to be elected because half of the black folks didn't even trust him, what is insensitive about the joke?

I still see it as a commentary on close-mindedness of our electorate, both black and white, but maybe you're right. It's just the man holding down Obama...:rolleyes:

How many black voters did not vote for Obama? 5%

How many white voters voted for him? 45%

It appears to me Obama was elected as a beneficiary of one race being extremely close minded...:rolleyes:

Wanna discuss reality or perception?

JOH
05-03-2009, 05:20 PM
If a joke is racially insensitive yet you persist to tell it and/or laugh and encourage it.... that is perpetuating racism. Regardless of who/where/ what you have done.

If...yet...What?

Its not racist. Even if it is, it isn't up to you to call it. If you think it is so, tell a moderator or admin.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 05:21 PM
You haven't told me how it is racially insensitive(LMAO)

:


It is a joke about the oppression of black folks. Oh man... thats so funny. Lets crack jokes about long standing opression. How is that not racially insensative? Please man. You need to work on your cultural competence.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 05:23 PM
If...yet...What?

Its not racist. Even if it is, it isn't up to you to call it. If you think it is so, tell a moderator or admin.

Why would I? I ain't mad at that guy. We are simply having a discussion.

JOH
05-03-2009, 05:24 PM
Lets crack jokes about long standing oppression.

Yeah. Damn Jews. :rolleyes:

You are overly sensitive about the subject, and can't see through the politically correct smokescreen you've made for yourself.

slorch
05-03-2009, 05:24 PM
It is a joke about the oppression of black folks. Oh man... thats so funny. Lets crack jokes about long standing opression. How is that not racially insensative? Please man. You need to work on your cultural competence.

oppressed in open elections?

I know for a fact I would never be elected as president.

Am I oppressed because of that?

Are blacks restricted from running from office? alas, we have a black man in the highest office in the land.

Care to comment on the objectivity of a race's vote that drastically differed from the general results of the election?

Now let's have a real discussion about racism and open mindedness...

JMSFan
05-03-2009, 05:24 PM
It is a joke about the oppression of black folks. Oh man... thats so funny. Lets crack jokes about long standing opression. How is that not racially insensative? Please man. You need to work on your cultural competence.

How exactly are black people being oppressed these days?

mad_fan
05-03-2009, 05:46 PM
Me either. Though i did hear it the other night playing poker..

"Hey guys.... did yall get that text joke about obama today"

That the problem with blanket statements about racism...
There are blacks and whites that are offended by everything they hear...
There are blacks and whites that can laugh this kinda s*** off...sometimes together...

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 05:50 PM
oppressed in open elections?

I know for a fact I would never be elected as president.

Am I oppressed because of that?

Are blacks restricted from running from office? alas, we have a black man in the highest office in the land.

Care to comment on the objectivity of a race's vote that drastically differed from the general results of the election?

Now let's have a real discussion about racism and open mindedness...

Please man. You are changing this into a completely different conversation.
Im going to the gym. Have fun with that.

slorch
05-03-2009, 05:57 PM
Please man. You are changing this into a completely different conversation.
Im going to the gym. Have fun with that.

in other words, you don't have a good answer...:cool:

mad_fan
05-03-2009, 05:58 PM
I see this one going to the pro-white people...

slorch
05-03-2009, 06:00 PM
I see this one going to the pro-white people...

I am pro American.

even the hyphenated ones...:rolleyes:

svhorns
05-03-2009, 06:03 PM
Lets say you're in a room with random black guys... would you be willing to tell that joke? If not... why?

My guess is that you would be a little reluctant to tell that joke because you know it might be a offensive to those black guys that you don't know... If you have any type of consciousness it would most likely be telling you that it's probably a better idea if I just keep that joke to myself and tell it to people I'm more comfortable around...

If you have black friends and they know who you are then by all means tell the joke to them... but in a public place/forum where you don't know who you're talking to it's probably a better idea to keep it to yourself... arguing for it is pushing your boundaries... like KT2000 says "A little self control might do you some good."

slorch
05-03-2009, 06:20 PM
Lets say you're in a room with random black guys... would you be willing to tell that joke? If not... why?

My guess is that you would be a little reluctant to tell that joke because you know it might be a offensive to those black guys that you don't know... If you have any type of consciousness it would most likely be telling you that it's probably a better idea if I just keep that joke to myself and tell it to people I'm more comfortable around...

If you have black friends and they know who you are then by all means tell the joke to them... but in a public place/forum where you don't know who you're talking to it's probably a better idea to keep it to yourself... arguing for it is pushing your boundaries... like KT2000 says "A little self control might do you some good."


Why am I in a room with a bunch of random black guys?

OK, unless you're a newspaper columnist, who do you tell jokes to?

I received the texts from 4 or 5 people last week and blew it off. i didn't think the joke was that funny. In all honesty, I think the joke is shallow and simplistic. if I had a kid or loved one that had suffered due to the Swine Flu virus, I would be much more inclined to chastise whomever told me the joke. Racial divisiveness never crossed my mind, but then again, I'm not seeking it out either...:cool:

If I did tell the joke, to a friend, not a group of random people, they know my outlook on life and know that I wouldn't be telling racist crap in the first place. as it was told to me, I wouldn't have repeated this joke simply because it sucks.

drizzydrake01
05-03-2009, 06:36 PM
Lets say you're in a room with random black guys... would you be willing to tell that joke? If not... why?

My guess is that you would be a little reluctant to tell that joke because you know it might be a offensive to those black guys that you don't know... If you have any type of consciousness it would most likely be telling you that it's probably a better idea if I just keep that joke to myself and tell it to people I'm more comfortable around...

If you have black friends and they know who you are then by all means tell the joke to them... but in a public place/forum where you don't know who you're talking to it's probably a better idea to keep it to yourself... arguing for it is pushing your boundaries... like KT2000 says "A little self control might do you some good."

this is exactly what i was trying to say...

drizzydrake01
05-03-2009, 06:47 PM
My wife calls me unacceptable names sometimes. It hurts my feelings.

i love reading your posts also..
they dont ever make sense but their enjoyable:)

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 08:24 PM
I am pro American.

even the hyphenated ones...:rolleyes:

The only real Americans are pure white americans.

svhorns
05-03-2009, 08:41 PM
The only real Americans are pure white americans.

Can you expand on this comment just a tad bit for me.... I'm having trouble with your wordage.

EagleDude73
05-03-2009, 08:46 PM
The only real Americans are pure white americans.

You claim to be a Christian? I sense alot of anger. How does that make you feel? :ninja:

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 08:47 PM
Can you expand on this comment just a tad bit for me.... I'm having trouble with your wordage.
The only REAL americans are white americans.

Who founded America? The pilgrims. White people.
Every legitimate President ever? White.

What have illegals ever done for this country?

svhorns
05-03-2009, 08:48 PM
The only REAL americans are white americans.

Who founded America? The pilgrims. White people.
Every legitimate President ever? White.

What have illegals ever done for this country?

Ok.

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 08:48 PM
Ok.
See my point?

slorch
05-03-2009, 08:49 PM
Can you expand on this comment just a tad bit for me.... I'm having trouble with your wordage.

Ivory soap anyone?

svhorns
05-03-2009, 08:50 PM
See my point?

eabod?

slorch
05-03-2009, 08:50 PM
See my point?

I'm thinking my post went waaaaaaaay over your head...

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 08:51 PM
eabod?

I thought you already welcomed me to the board?

svhorns
05-03-2009, 08:53 PM
I thought you already welcomed me to the board?

I did? oh yea I did! I was drunk last night... I forgot...

EagleDude73
05-03-2009, 08:54 PM
See my point?

25 posts in and this is the picture I get.

http://www.rightwingnews.com/graphics/skinhead.jpg

That is all.

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 08:55 PM
25 posts in and this is the picture I get.

http://www.rightwingnews.com/graphics/skinhead.jpg

That is all.

I am not a Nazi.

Barack Obama is the nazi.

Why do you hate God's Chosen People?

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 08:55 PM
in other words, you don't have a good answer...:cool:

Nah man. I NEVER denied that racism or racial discrimination exists. It exists both ways. The problem you run into is 90 percent of people who are the managers, decision makers, ruling elite in their respective fields are white. So injustice trickles down more towards minorities than it does white folks. Thats all there is to it.

It's just a whole different converstaion, like I said.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 08:56 PM
Lets say you're in a room with random black guys... would you be willing to tell that joke? If not... why?

My guess is that you would be a little reluctant to tell that joke because you know it might be a offensive to those black guys that you don't know... If you have any type of consciousness it would most likely be telling you that it's probably a better idea if I just keep that joke to myself and tell it to people I'm more comfortable around...

If you have black friends and they know who you are then by all means tell the joke to them... but in a public place/forum where you don't know who you're talking to it's probably a better idea to keep it to yourself... arguing for it is pushing your boundaries... like KT2000 says "A little self control might do you some good."

This.

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 08:56 PM
Nah man. I NEVER denied that racism or racial discrimination exists. It exists both ways. The problem you run into is 90 percent of people who are the managers, decision makers, ruling elite in their respective fields are white. So injustice trickles down more towards minorities than it does white folks. Thats all there is to it.

It's just a whole different converstaion, like I said.

If you don't like it, you can take your filth back out of this country and go home, where you belong.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 08:57 PM
How exactly are black people being oppressed these days?

I hope this is a joke.

svhorns
05-03-2009, 08:57 PM
If you don't like it, you can take your filth back out of this country and go home, where you belong.

Phoenix is that you?

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 08:58 PM
The only REAL americans are white americans.

Who founded America? The pilgrims. White people.
Every legitimate President ever? White.

What have illegals ever done for this country?


******* nazi.

dragons08
05-03-2009, 08:58 PM
It's Bush's fault.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 09:01 PM
If you don't like it, you can take your filth back out of this country and go home, where you belong.

09' huh lil man?

Punk *** little geek trying to get on the net and act tough.

Probably is that lil tool bag pheonix.

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 09:02 PM
Phoenix is that you?

who?

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 09:02 PM
09' huh lil man?

Punk *** little geek trying to get on the net and act tough.

Probably is that lil tool bag pheonix.

who is phoenix?

svhorns
05-03-2009, 09:04 PM
who?

nevermind.

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:05 PM
http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/uploads/forums/ban-him.jpg

EagleDude73
05-03-2009, 09:05 PM
Why do you hate God's Chosen People?

Please provide quote and/or post where this idea was conceived from your thought process. BTW, welcome to and good-bye from the boards 'cause NARCS patrol this place like crazy and then call Hollywood and tell R2D2.

http://www.untoldentertainment.com/blog/img/2007_11_11/narc.jpg

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 09:05 PM
who is phoenix?

Reveal youself then lil man.

No one just comes in here with vengeance like this.

Have some nuts.
.

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:05 PM
nevermind.

SV, I expect a helluva 10,000th post from you.

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 09:08 PM
Reveal youself then lil man.

No one just comes in here with vengeance like this.

Have some nuts.
.

I don't have any clue what you're talking about.

Who is this phoenix? Does he post here?

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:08 PM
I don't have any clue what you're talking about.

Who is this phoenix? Does he post here?

Leave and never come back.

EABOD & DIAF.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 09:09 PM
I don't have any clue what you're talking about.

Who is this phoenix? Does he post here?

You are an idiot.

Your obsession has outed you.

You are clearly that lil geek.

svhorns
05-03-2009, 09:11 PM
SV, I expect a helluva 10,000th post from you.

You can't put that kind of pressure on me... Now I'm gonna fold...

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:12 PM
I don't think its feenix. Feenix would have the smarts to wait a couple months to resurrect another account.

Plus, Feenix also had some intelligence...

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:13 PM
You can't put that kind of pressure on me... Now I'm gonna fold...

dooooo it.

EagleDude73
05-03-2009, 09:13 PM
SV, I expect a helluva 10,000th post from you.

Don't worry his posts will be reduced because 2 threads will be gone in the morning.

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 09:13 PM
I don't think its feenix. Feenix would have the smarts to wait a couple months to resurrect another account.

Plus, Feenix also had some intelligence...

Will someone tell me who the hell this phoenix guy is?

slorch
05-03-2009, 09:14 PM
Nah man. I NEVER denied that racism or racial discrimination exists. It exists both ways. The problem you run into is 90 percent of people who are the managers, decision makers, ruling elite in their respective fields are white. So injustice trickles down more towards minorities than it does white folks. Thats all there is to it.

It's just a whole different converstaion, like I said.

Any time you want, I'll tackle this subject.

Whether or not those decision makers or managers are white or not probably does matter as far as objectivity goes...

Just look at the voting by race in the presidential election...

who would you trust to be fair? It's an honest question that is almost impossible to answer because it comes down to the individual, not their race. i was just using the election voting to counter your own implication of bias by those white decision makers.

dragons08
05-03-2009, 09:14 PM
You can't put that kind of pressure on me... Now I'm gonna fold...

Insult rocketgrl.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 09:14 PM
I don't think its feenix. Feenix would have the smarts to wait a couple months to resurrect another account.

Plus, Feenix also had some intelligence...

His lifelong banishment has sent him over the edge. His true colors are showing.

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:14 PM
Will someone tell me who the hell this phoenix guy is?

An idiot who decided to stick it to R2 and got permabanned for it.

slorch
05-03-2009, 09:14 PM
Will someone tell me who the hell this phoenix guy is?

he'd like you alot...;):D

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 09:15 PM
An idiot who decided to stick it to R2 and got permabanned for it.

permabanned?

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:15 PM
His lifelong banishment has sent him over the edge. His true colors are showing.

I'm not fully convinced.

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 09:15 PM
he'd like you alot...;):D
:confused:

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:16 PM
permabanned?

Banned for all eternity

slorch
05-03-2009, 09:17 PM
An idiot who decided to stick it to R2 and got permabanned for it.

I missed the show...:Censor::mad:

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:18 PM
I missed the show...:Censor::mad:

See the first half of the "end of era" thread. Its all still there.

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 09:18 PM
Banned for all eternity

ouch.

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:19 PM
ouch.

I feel yours is coming if you don't tone it down a bit.

dragons08
05-03-2009, 09:19 PM
I missed the show...:Censor::mad:

It was unfair IMO.

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 09:20 PM
I feel yours is coming if you don't tone it down a bit.

tone what down?

I'm just calling it as I see it...

Does this board have a problem with the truth?

EagleDude73
05-03-2009, 09:21 PM
ouch.

chill, R2 Jr. is now on line, I suggest you run and hide for awhile. WWR2D2D?

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:21 PM
tone what down?

I'm just calling it as I see it...

Does this board have a problem with the truth?

No so much that, just conflicting views...

Put it on the back burner for a while.

Blitzkrieg_09
05-03-2009, 09:23 PM
No so much that, just conflicting views...

Put it on the back burner for a while.

sheesh.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 09:26 PM
Any time you want, I'll tackle this subject.

Whether or not those decision makers or managers are white or not probably does matter as far as objectivity goes...

Just look at the voting by race in the presidential election...

who would you trust to be fair? It's an honest question that is almost impossible to answer because it comes down to the individual, not their race. i was just using the election voting to counter your own implication of bias by those white decision makers.


You answered it yourself, it is impossible to say. Which is why we need to be come more racially tolerant and culturally competent as a whole to better the world for all of us.

However, in the world we live in, not every black guy will discriminate against white men nor will every white guy discriminate against black men. However, I would venture to say that a black man will be more likely to discriminate against a white man and a white man will be more likely to discriminate against a black man. It's a white mans country at this point.... which is why black people are still being oppressed.

Ideally we'd all become more culturally competent and learn to see everyone in the same light. But it aint like that. So until then, I am all for growing number of black men in leadership posistions... if for nothing else, to even the field a little bit.

smw358
05-03-2009, 09:28 PM
An idiot who decided to stick it to R2 and got permabanned for it.

Phoenix gone......?:(

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:29 PM
Phoenix gone......?:(

Haha YES. Forever.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 09:30 PM
Phoenix gone......?:(

Thankfully. The guy was unreadable.

JOH
05-03-2009, 09:35 PM
tone what down?

I'm just calling it as I see it...

Does this board have a problem with the truth?

Maybe you shouldn't call it like you see it, and perhaps look at situations with a bit of human empathy, instead of the mindless trash I've been hearing... Tabla rasa gone wild.

JOH
05-03-2009, 09:36 PM
Thankfully. The guy was unreadable.

Eh, he wasn't too bad...at least he brought differing views...

Some of you are quick to gang-bang him...

EagleDude73
05-03-2009, 09:40 PM
Maybe you shouldn't call it like you see it, and perhaps look at situations with a bit of human empathy, instead of the mindless trash I've been hearing... Tabla rasa gone wild.

You stole what was going to be my new sig. I love to bring this up in meetings.
This is from BK09's page: Blitzkrieg_09 has not made any friends yet.

slorch
05-03-2009, 09:41 PM
tone what down?

I'm just calling it as I see it...

Does this board have a problem with the truth?

yes.

moving on now...;)

slorch
05-03-2009, 09:43 PM
You answered it yourself, it is impossible to say. Which is why we need to be come more racially tolerant and culturally competent as a whole to better the world for all of us.

However, in the world we live in, not every black guy will discriminate against white men nor will every white guy discriminate against black men. However, I would venture to say that a black man will be more likely to discriminate against a white man and a white man will be more likely to discriminate against a black man. It's a white mans country at this point.... which is why black people are still being oppressed.

Ideally we'd all become more culturally competent and learn to see everyone in the same light. But it aint like that. So until then, I am all for growing number of black men in leadership posistions... if for nothing else, to even the field a little bit.

Is cultural competancy something that Jesus or Dr King espoused?

I always thought we should take a man for who he is, or what's on his heart.

I've honestly never heard the term before.

Can i not treat a person fairly if I do not know their culture?

Are you suggesting we "even the field" by discrimination?

slorch
05-03-2009, 09:45 PM
Thankfully. The guy was unreadable.

you're wrong.

The guy was as readable as any leftist website...;)

RIP Select All...:D

drgnbkr
05-03-2009, 09:45 PM
Banned for all eternity

Maybe he didn't pay his poll tax..or just went to a Pollish Wedding...or is out poll dancing...or maybe KT took a poll and phoenix lost....it could just be polllitical...maybe he wasn't pollite? Or he could be at the North Poll...Call the pollice!

Aggies2009
05-03-2009, 09:47 PM
Maybe he didn't pay his poll tax..or just went to a Pollish Wedding...or is out poll dancing...or maybe KT took a poll and phoenix lost....it could just be polllitical...maybe he wasn't pollite? Or he could be at the North Poll...Call the pollice!

Or maybe he called KT on one of his issues that he is in denial over?

Just sayin...

JOH
05-03-2009, 09:50 PM
Or maybe he called KT on one of his issues that he is in denial over?

Just sayin...

this.

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 09:52 PM
Or maybe he called KT on one of his issues that he is in denial over?

Just sayin...

Didn't end well for Feenix.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 09:56 PM
Is cultural competancy something that Jesus or Dr King espoused?

I always thought we should take a man for who he is, or what's on his heart.

I've honestly never heard the term before.

Can i not treat a person fairly if I do not know their culture?

Bleh, I essentially had an entire class on it. Terrible class but some good examples of the limitations of our own humanity.

I could pull out my own book... but i dont want to. To be "culturally competent" consist of various different components. I will try and recall what the book spewed.....You must be aware of your own culture, aware that there are other cultures and differences in cultures, and not assign value to the various differences in cultures.


Wiki aint' the tell all.... but it is easier than digging through literature.


Cultural competence comprises four components: (a) Awareness of one's own cultural worldview, (b) Attitude towards cultural differences, (c) Knowledge of different cultural practices and worldviews, and (d) cross-cultural skills. Developing cultural competence results in an ability to understand, communicate with, and effectively interact with people across cultures.

I think that is is an essential element to have if you are in a posistion of power. For example, when hiring. It is so easy to look at someone from a different culture and pass judgment on them because you dont like the way their clothes looks or the way they talk. They can be more qualified and a better canadite for a job and one who is not understanding could hire a less qualified person because they are discriminating against them based on cultural differences.

That, in my opinion, is not okay.

slorch
05-03-2009, 10:06 PM
Bleh, I essentially had an entire class on it. Terrible class but some good examples of the limitations of our own humanity.

I could pull out my own book... but i dont want to. To be "culturally competent" consist of various different components. I will try and recall what the book spewed.....You must be aware of your own culture, aware that there are other cultures and differences in cultures, and not assign value to the various differences in cultures.


Wiki aint' the tell all.... but it is easier than digging through literature.


Cultural competence comprises four components: (a) Awareness of one's own cultural worldview, (b) Attitude towards cultural differences, (c) Knowledge of different cultural practices and worldviews, and (d) cross-cultural skills. Developing cultural competence results in an ability to understand, communicate with, and effectively interact with people across cultures.

I think that is is an essential element to have if you are in a posistion of power. For example, when hiring. It is so easy to look at someone from a different culture and pass judgment on them because you dont like the way their clothes looks or the way they talk. They can be more qualified and a better canadite for a job and one who is not understanding could hire a less qualified person because they are discriminating against them based on cultural differences.

That, in my opinion, is not okay.

affirmative action does this...

KT2000
05-03-2009, 10:11 PM
Or maybe he called KT on one of his issues that he is in denial over?

Just sayin...

Enlighten us, Oprah.

F18mustang
05-03-2009, 10:12 PM
Enlighten us, Oprah.

ka-ching

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 10:19 PM
affirmative action does this...

Marginally.

slorch
05-03-2009, 10:22 PM
Marginally.

like being slightly pregnant.

I guess you are suggesting it is marginal because it opposes evil whitey...um..the oppressors???

It is patently discriminatory.

JOH
05-03-2009, 10:22 PM
Enlighten us, Oprah.

I believe he was referring to your inability to take a joke at your own expense, at least, while you're there. Personally, I think you dealt with Phoenix rather harshly, perhaps out of necessity or maybe out of anger. Either way, I don't think his actions called for a permanent ban. But then again, that isn't up to me. All I can do is hope that those with authority over me act with indifference and patience, as that is all we can do when under another man's law.

SeguinMatadors
05-03-2009, 10:24 PM
like being slightly pregnant.

I guess you are suggesting it is marginal because it opposes evil whitey...um..the oppressors???

It is patently discriminatory.

:confused:

slorch
05-03-2009, 10:38 PM
:confused:

affirmative action attempts to correct past discrimination with current discrimination.

It is terribly hypocritical.

b756561
05-03-2009, 10:47 PM
Originally Posted by b756561 http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?p=1181219#post1181219)
I tried to make my point in a light-hearted way. What I was trying to say was Racism is Racism is Racism. Anyone can do it and no matter who does it, it's wrong. I was also trying to say that just because someone is making fun of Obama does not automatically make that person a racist. When someone made fun of Bush, were they automatically labeled a Racist? If not, then why is someone making fun of Obama automatically labeled a Racist. And I am not refering to the pig joke. Even the newscasters are complaining that it is hard to say something negative about the president because as soon as they do, people start complaining about them being Racist. He's the president. He is not going to be correct 100% of the time. When he is wrong, we have to be able to call him on it without having to fear we will be labeled a Racist because of our criticism. That term is so vastly overused now that I, for one, am tired of hearing it. We need to be careful of how we use that term or it could very easily spark a backlash and we don't need that.

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I have no problem with someone disagreeing with the president. However, the joke was distasteful and clearly had racial undertones.

Please read above. What part of "And I am not refering to the pig joke" do you not understand. Dude, I was agreeing with you. I said I was not refering to the pig joke. I was saying that if a white person says anything negative about Obama that he is labeled a racist. That's wrong. He's my president too. If I wish to say something negative about him, that does not automatically make me a racist. Gee did you hear some of the comments about Bush from the black population? Was every bit of that racist also? Or is that different because one is a white man saying something about a black (actually half-black) man while the other one is a black man saying something about a white man? My wife says the same thing when she does something she didn't want me to do earlier. I want to spend money to make the car look nice. She says I'm wasting money. She then turns around and buys flowers for the house to make it look nice. I ask her if that isn't wasting money too. She replys that no it's different when she does it. It's ok for her to do it, but not for me to do it.
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drgnbkr
05-03-2009, 11:11 PM
I believe he was referring to your inability to take a joke at your own expense, at least, while you're there. Personally, I think you dealt with Phoenix rather harshly, perhaps out of necessity or maybe out of anger. Either way, I don't think his actions called for a permanent ban. But then again, that isn't up to me. All I can do is hope that those with authority over me act with indifference and patience, as that is all we can do when under another man's law.

Phoenix has been on or over the edge a lot lately in other threads..IMO the mods do a good job in situations that can get pretty childish at times.

dragons08
05-03-2009, 11:13 PM
Enlighten us, Oprah.

The ban-hammer is winding up.

dragons08
05-03-2009, 11:14 PM
I believe he was referring to your inability to take a joke at your own expense, at least, while you're there. Personally, I think you dealt with Phoenix rather harshly, perhaps out of necessity or maybe out of anger. Either way, I don't think his actions called for a permanent ban. But then again, that isn't up to me. All I can do is hope that those with authority over me act with indifference and patience, as that is all we can do when under another man's law.

He can take a joke, check my avatar.

slorch
05-03-2009, 11:16 PM
nm

BDB
05-03-2009, 11:58 PM
well... this thread started to suck once i signed off.


sorry for leavin you by yourself on this one, yaller.

yallerjacket2
05-04-2009, 06:37 AM
well... this thread started to suck once i signed off.


sorry for leavin you by yourself on this one, yaller.

I wasn't here. I gave up on this pretty early on.

KT2000
05-04-2009, 07:57 AM
The ban-hammer is winding up.

There's nothing like getting a psych evaluation on the Innaweb, let me tell ya.

slorch
05-04-2009, 08:23 AM
There's nothing like getting a psych evaluation on the Innaweb, let me tell ya.

and denying the results...that's even better.:D

KT2000
05-04-2009, 08:51 AM
and denying the results...that's even better.:D

I just want to know what business agreement JOH and Aggie09 have to always agree with each other.

BDB
05-04-2009, 12:25 PM
I just want to know what business agreement JOH and Aggie09 have to always agree with each other.

http://www.deebeedee.com/blog/images/kkk.jpg

trash collectors?

iiiiiirony ;)

UNBLOCK MY IMAGE, DUDE!

it's funny :D

JMSFan
05-04-2009, 06:07 PM
I hope this is a joke.

I just asked because I would like to hear your propaganda... I mean.... your answer.

JOH
05-04-2009, 08:20 PM
He can take a joke, check my avatar.

If you want to call that a joke...

I would consider it a light banter. :D

JOH
05-04-2009, 08:25 PM
I just want to know what business agreement JOH and Aggie09 have to always agree with each other.

"Always agree"?

I think you may be mistaken...and Aggie09's name should alluded to that.

EagleDude73
05-04-2009, 08:49 PM
Was blitz actually feen-ix? The ban hit pretty quick.

F18mustang
05-04-2009, 08:51 PM
Was blitz actually feen-ix? The ban hit pretty quick.

Don't know if he wants me saying this, but yes, it was.

Dawg Fan
05-04-2009, 08:52 PM
Don't know if he wants me saying this, but yes, it was.


what an idiot but then again I am not shocked

BDB
05-04-2009, 08:57 PM
what an idiot but then again I am not shocked

it was actually pretty genius, if you ask me.

the left-winged socialist made an account using the word "blitzkrieg" and typed as a closet racist?

that's pretty effin' genius

slorch
05-04-2009, 09:00 PM
it was actually pretty genius, if you ask me.

the left-winged socialist made an account using the word "blitzkrieg" and typed as a closet racist?

that's pretty effin' genius

it took about 5 minutes for us idiots to out him...:rolleyes:

BDB
05-04-2009, 09:03 PM
it took about 5 minutes for us idiots to out him...:rolleyes:

it's still funny. i could tell from his first post it was him, but i still laughed alot.

SeguinMatadors
05-04-2009, 09:04 PM
it's still funny. i could tell from his first post it was him, but i still laughed alot.

Cool, The President.

JOH
05-04-2009, 09:09 PM
it was actually pretty genius, if you ask me.

the left-winged socialist made an account using the word "blitzkrieg" and typed as a closet racist?

that's pretty effin' genius

Its actually pretty sad.

Sad because the site is the only place he can get his rocks off. Sad because he always claimed he had better things to do then talk to us. Sad because he tried to troll us and pin himself as a racist. :(

I left him a moderated visitor message that simply stated, "Phoenix". :D

SeguinMatadors
05-04-2009, 09:10 PM
Its actually pretty sad.

Sad because the site is the only place he can get his rocks off. Sad because he always claimed he had better things to do then talk to us. Sad because he tried to troll us and pin himself as a racist. :(

I left him a moderated visitor message that simply stated, "Phoenix". :D

This.

BDB
05-05-2009, 03:54 AM
Its actually pretty sad.

Sad because the site is the only place he can get his rocks off. Sad because he always claimed he had better things to do then talk to us. Sad because he tried to troll us and pin himself as a racist. :(

I left him a moderated visitor message that simply stated, "Phoenix". :D

oh noes someone be takin da internetz 2 srsrly