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PurpleNation
12-20-2005, 09:39 AM
Does everyone agree that these will probably be the top 2 dual threat QB's in the state next year. Jeremy Claybon has shown alot of promise and just might be better then Reggie McNeal. If you compare his Jr year to McNeal. Claybon went further in the playoffs and broke some of Reggies record and Lufkin records with less talent around him. We all know what Dodge can do. Riley is a talented young man and just might be the best all around Junior to be Athletes in the State. I really think the 2006 5A player of the year will be one of these 2 QB's. Jeremy with 8 other offensive starters returning around could erase the Lufkin record book completely when he is done. While Riley Didge will continue to show why SLC is among the nations Elite.

pack0808
12-20-2005, 10:06 AM
Does everyone agree that these will probably be the top 2 dual threat QB's in the state next year. Jeremy Claybon has shown alot of promise and just might be better then Reggie McNeal. If you compare his Jr year to McNeal. Claybon went further in the playoffs and broke some of Reggies record and Lufkin records with less talent around him. We all know what Dodge can do. Riley is a talented young man and just might be the best all around Junior to be Athletes in the State. I really think the 2006 5A player of the year will be one of these 2 QB's. Jeremy with 8 other offensive starters returning around could erase the Lufkin record book completely when he is done. While Riley Didge will continue to show why SLC is among the nations Elite.


I tried to tell you that Claybon was special Purplenation. ;) Now i do disagree on one point. Claybon did have better wr's to throw to then Reggie did. This was the best group of wr's in Lufkin's history in my opinion. On many throws to Dez all Claybon had to do was throw it up there and he would go up and get it even though the corner was in perfect position. But i agree, Claybon is probably going to be a better qb then Reggie in "highschool". He is better at reading defenses and throws more accurately then Reggie did in hs. They have similar arm strength. Reggie has him in the speed and scrambling abilities but Claybon is no slouch there either. (Reggie has about everybody in speed) He is the real deal no doubt. I think J Turner is the real deal also. He is special too. He reminds me of a J Charles in a way. I have liked him since i first saw him and knew he had tremendous potential. Add in the young sensation everybody has been hyping Trevon Lewis and they could have a explosive backfield. You will have your 2 best wr's back in Dez and Ralph, and the whole oline back. Should be the best Lufkin offense ever. Well on paper right now they should be. You never know?? One big injury can change a season.

yankee
12-20-2005, 10:09 AM
Does everyone agree that these will probably be the top 2 dual threat QB's in the state next year. Jeremy Claybon has shown alot of promise and just might be better then Reggie McNeal. If you compare his Jr year to McNeal. Claybon went further in the playoffs and broke some of Reggies record and Lufkin records with less talent around him. We all know what Dodge can do. Riley is a talented young man and just might be the best all around Junior to be Athletes in the State. I really think the 2006 5A player of the year will be one of these 2 QB's. Jeremy with 8 other offensive starters returning around could erase the Lufkin record book completely when he is done. While Riley Didge will continue to show why SLC is among the nations Elite.
claybon defnetly will be a top dual threat qb as will dodge. but there might be some other qb's out there that havent made a name for themselves yet.

jtk1519
12-20-2005, 10:11 AM
I don't know if I would call them the top 2, but they could be among the best. There should be several good dual-threat QBs that I would ranker higher...

Josh Chiles - Mansfield Summit
Nick Fanuzzi - San Antonio Churchill (He's my pick for best in 5A to start the year)
Demetrius Woods - Houston Lamar (probably 2nd best in 5A)

I think out of all classifications, the best in the state are...

Jaret Lee - Brenham
Gilbert Moye - Jasper
Cotton Turner - Fort Bend Dulles
Fanuzzi and Woods

I saw Jaret Lee play as a soph. when he was at Brownwood. He's a very good QB and should be highly recruited. Great size and speed. He's a coaches son and knows the game very well.

PurpleNation
12-20-2005, 10:17 AM
I tried to tell you that Claybon was special Purplenation. ;) Now i do disagree on one point. Claybon did have better wr's to throw to then Reggie did. This is the best group of wr's in Lufkin's history in my opinion. On many throws to Dez all Claybon had to do was throw it up there and he would go up and get it even though the corner was in perfect position. But i agree, Claybon is probably going to be a better qb then Reggie in "highschool". He is better at reading defenses and throws more accurately then Reggie did in hs. They have similar arm strength. Reggie has him in the speed and scrambling abilities but Claybon is no slouch there either. (Reggie has about everybody in speed) He is the real deal no doubt. I think J Turner is the real deal also. He is special also. He reminds me of a J Charles in a way. I have liked him since i first saw him and knew he had tremendous potential. Add in the young sensation everybody has been hyping Trevon Lewis and they could have a special backfield. You will have your 2 best wr's back in Dez and Ralph, and the whole oline back. Should be the best Lufkin offense ever. Well on paper right now they should be. You never know?? One big injury can change a season.

Yeah you did say Jeremy would be special. I dunno Mac had some pretty solid WR's (Holeman,Mott,Watts,Berry,Parks). But Dez is the best WR I have seen play for Lufkin period. He could out jump you like Sparky and run after the catch like "Q". I wonder who will be the other 2 starting WR's for Lufkin. Maybe McDuffy and Bagley (Bigger then Dez). On paper we look like 06 just might be our year. Time will tell. I agree that next season should be Lufkin's best offensive team.

Mr. Buddy Garrity
12-20-2005, 10:18 AM
I don't know if I would call them the top 2, but they could be among the best. There should be several good dual-threat QBs that I would ranker higher...

Josh Chiles - Mansfield Summit
Nick Fanuzzi - San Antonio Churchill (He's my pick for best in 5A to start the year)
Demetrius Woods - Houston Lamar (probably 2nd best in 5A)

I think out of all classifications, the best in the state are...

Jaret Lee - Brenham
Gilbert Moye - Jasper
Cotton Turner - Fort Bend Dulles
Fanuzzi and Woods

I saw Jaret Lee play as a soph. when he was at Brownwood. He's a very good QB and should be highly recruited. Great size and speed. He's a coaches son and knows the game very well.Moye lives in Diboll.

Mr. Buddy Garrity
12-20-2005, 10:19 AM
I tried to tell you that Claybon was special Purplenation. ;) Now i do disagree on one point. Claybon did have better wr's to throw to then Reggie did. This was the best group of wr's in Lufkin's history in my opinion. On many throws to Dez all Claybon had to do was throw it up there and he would go up and get it even though the corner was in perfect position. But i agree, Claybon is probably going to be a better qb then Reggie in "highschool". He is better at reading defenses and throws more accurately then Reggie did in hs. They have similar arm strength. Reggie has him in the speed and scrambling abilities but Claybon is no slouch there either. (Reggie has about everybody in speed) He is the real deal no doubt. I think J Turner is the real deal also. He is special too. He reminds me of a J Charles in a way. I have liked him since i first saw him and knew he had tremendous potential. Add in the young sensation everybody has been hyping Trevon Lewis and they could have a explosive backfield. You will have your 2 best wr's back in Dez and Ralph, and the whole oline back. Should be the best Lufkin offense ever. Well on paper right now they should be. You never know?? One big injury can change a season.I thought Ralph was a Senior?

KT2000
12-20-2005, 10:20 AM
Woods is an extremely gifted athlete, but definitely not a QB prospect for the next level in my opinion. Dodge and Claybon are much better passers. Obviously, it probably helps they have better teams than Woods. Woods is amazing in the open field though. I saw Woods (against Westfield) and Claybon (against Cove) in person this year and Dodge on TV against Denton Ryan. I think Woods is the best runner with Claybon not too far behind.

dragonfootballfan
12-20-2005, 10:22 AM
I am not sure about these two being the best, but they are deffinitely going to get the most publicity this year. On a side question, when was the last time an underclassmen quarterback led his team to a 5A state championship?

dragonsdaddy
12-20-2005, 10:24 AM
I am not sure about these two being the best, but they are deffinitely going to get the most publicity this year. On a side question, when was the last time an underclassmen quarterback led his team to a 5A state championship?
i think it was the coju qb's in 02.

pack0808
12-20-2005, 10:29 AM
I thought Ralph was a Senior?


No he is just a junior this year. Both Dez and Ralph ( by far Lufkin's best wr's this year) will be back. I expect J Davis to be a real impact at wr next year Purplenation. He has all of the physical tools 6'3 i think? and i hear he was very good at the wr position on the jv befor Nobles got hurt. I expect Nobles to be the backup to Claybon next year. I hear the kid can throw? So the starting 4 will probably be Dez, RT, J Davis, and Mcduffy. But there might be a few underclasseman i do not know about?

KT2000
12-20-2005, 10:30 AM
If not Judson in '02...then Jon Rogers of Midland Lee in '98 and Matt Gore of Katy in '97 were the last to do it as non-seniors.

Nukka Nilla
12-20-2005, 10:32 AM
I've started against Lufkin that past 2 years for SLC and my honest opinion is they will take it all in '06, anything else would be a disappointment

pack0808
12-20-2005, 10:36 AM
I've started against Lufkin that past 2 years for SLC and my honest opinion is they will take it all in '06, anything else would be a disappointment


Yeah and we heard this hype before in 2001 and 2003. It happened in 2001 but definitely not in 2003. They were #1 all year and almost everybody was picking them and looked unbeatable at times (beat the eventual div2 champs by 21), but they were gone by the 1st round. Still shocked about that one. The most dissapointing team in Lufkin history without a doubt.

PurpleNation
12-20-2005, 10:49 AM
I forgot about Davis playng WR. What about Bagley at WR he is a beast. His big brother was on that 03 team and yes by far a dissapointing run for those SR's I felt bad for my brother. That team had more D1 athletes on the Roster then any other Lufkin team in History.

On the Side Nobles will be the backup but in 2 years it is possible we will see another solid south paw in Jeffery Claybon Jeremy's younger brother. Jefferey has a promising future I have seen him play.

pack0808
12-20-2005, 11:00 AM
I forgot about Davis playng WR. What about Bagley at WR he is a beast. His big brother was on that 03 team and yes by far a dissapointing run for those SR's I felt bad for my brother. That team had more D1 athletes on the Roster then any other Lufkin team in History.

On the Side Nobles will be the backup but in 2 years it is possible we will see another solid south paw in Jeffery Claybon Jeremy's younger brother. Jefferey has a promising future I have seen him play.


I am just going by what i have heard from credible sources on the younger players that played jv. I am sure there are plenty like Bagley that i do not know about? Is he a big wr? Will Nobles be a junior or a sophomore next year? The younger Claybon will be a sophomore next year correct?? And yes i heard he was good and had a lot of potential.

But Dez and J Davis could be a scary combo on the outside with RT and some other wr in the slot.

PACK
12-20-2005, 11:09 AM
In 03 Lufkin had everything to get it done except the TEAM concept. Internal breakdown with no real team leadership. It was disapointing but a lot was learned from it. The last two teams have had team leadership and played as a team. No one had the superstar mentality this year as I saw. Confidence and arogance are two totally different attitudes. In fact I saw a lot of good teams this year which played as a team. Cove, SLC, and Katy displayed it well.
As for Claybon breaking Reggies records, I think we need to compare competition between the two. Jeremy has had an easier row to hoe than what Reggie had. Records are one thing but results speak volumes. This is not to say that Jeremy is not extremely talented, I just think Reggie displayed more talent against better competition. The Euless Trinity game will always be a game for the ages. Given the two in the same situation I don't think Jeremy gets it done. As well, give Reggie the receivers we had this year in the district we played in and those records may never be broken. I'm a big picture guy.

Riley I'm sure is a gifted kid with no doubt a lot influance, but I hope people will just let him be a kid playing a game. I get the impression that a lot of people (not just SLC) are expecting him to be something more than he is capable of being too soon. Too much presure could detour his developement from being something special instead wind up being an average QB playing with the weight of the world on him at 16 or 17 years old.

PurpleNation
12-20-2005, 11:10 AM
I am just going by what i have heard from credible sources on the younger players that played jv. I am sure there are plenty like Bagley that i do not know about? Is he a big wr? Will Nobles be a junior or a sophomore next year? The younger Claybon will be a sophomore next year correct?? And yes i heard he was good and had a lot of potential.

But Dez and J Davis could be a scary combo on the outside with RT and some other wr in the slot.


Bagley is the bigest one we got(Dez maybe) he was moved up during the Playoffs wore #37 I think. He reminds me of Dez he can out jump you and catch the deep ball Nobles will be a JR. and the younger Claybon a Sophmore.

Imagine Lufkin WR's Next Season

1. Dez Bryant 6'3 205 IMO Best WR in Texa
2. Ralph Thomas 5'8 165 Best Athlete at Lufkin HS
3. James Davis 6'3 195 Promising future at whatever position lands him
4. Jamorion Bagley 6'3 215 Dez in the Making.
5. Michie McDuffy 5'11 175 Good speed with a great set on hands.

PurpleNation
12-20-2005, 11:17 AM
In 03 Lufkin had everything to get it done except the TEAM concept. Internal breakdown with no real team leadership. It was disapointing but a lot was learned from it. The last two teams have had team leadership and played as a team. No one had the superstar mentality this year as I saw. Confidence and arogance are two totally different attitudes. In fact I saw a lot of good teams this year which played as a team. Cove, SLC, and Katy displayed it well.
As for Claybon breaking Reggies records, I think we need to compare competition between the two. Jeremy has had an easier row to hoe than what Reggie had. Records are one thing but results speak volumes. This is not to say that Jeremy is not extremely talented, I just think Reggie displayed more talent against better competition. The Euless Trinity game will always be a game for the ages. Given the two in the same situation I don't think Jeremy gets it done. As well, give Reggie the receivers we had this year in the district we played in and those records may never be broken. I'm a big picture guy.

Reggie Had better WR's to throw to with a better team around him. Your comparing the SR McNeal(Euless Trinity) to the JR Claybon. Compare McNeals JR year to Clyabon and the stats are there for Claybon. No I know there will never be another Reggie McNeal just like there was never suppose to be another Denvis Manns(Lane) but every now and then another Kid comes threw here and turns a few heads and alot of what if's come in.We can compare Mandela Roberts to Lebrandon Shepheard even though I feel Lebrandon was beter then Derrick Johnson he messed up and we will never know his full potential. Its just another stud QB came in faster then expected. I am not saying Claybon is a better QB the McNeal I think he has a very good chance to be a better HS QB then McNeal. Now at the College level Im not sure if Jeremy will play for as big as a school as A&M but he will be a D1 QB some were. But I believe Jeremy will do somthing Reggie never did and that is win a Bowl game one day.

pack0808
12-20-2005, 11:23 AM
Bagley is the bigest one we got(Dez maybe) he was moved up during the Playoffs wore #37 I think. He reminds me of Dez he can out jump you and catch the deep ball Nobles will be a JR. and the younger Claybon a Sophmore.

Imagine Lufkin WR's Next Season

1. Dez Bryant 6'3 205 IMO Best WR in Texa
2. Ralph Thomas 5'8 165 Best Athlete at Lufkin HS
3. James Davis 6'3 195 Promising future at whatever position lands him
4. Jamorion Bagley 6'3 215 Dez in the Making.
5. Michie McDuffy 5'11 175 Good speed with a great set on hands.


Wow Bagley sounds like a stud. I am surprised i have never heard of him. Nice size too. Wasn't his brother a little defensive back??

SwingingGate
12-20-2005, 11:23 AM
If not Judson in '02...then Jon Rogers of Midland Lee in '98 and Matt Gore of Katy in '97 were the last to do it as non-seniors.

The last was junior QB Nick Hand of Midland Lee 2000 when they beat Austin Westlake. Rogers was a junior also in 1998.

PurpleNation
12-20-2005, 11:29 AM
Wow Bagley sounds like a stud. I am surprised i have never heard of him. Nice size too. Wasn't his brother a little defensive back??


Yeah Kyie bagley played DB. He Started at DB his JR year until he broke his hand against Marshall then he suprised the whole HS and quit. He returned his SR and had to fight to get his Job back but this time he played Safety. Tremendouse athlete suprised he didnt go D1 he wore #4. I expect big things next year for Bagley he will only by a JR next season he might have a break out season like Dez had. Only time will tell.

backthepack
12-20-2005, 01:24 PM
Yeah Bagley will make a major impact on the team...I know him and if he makes the grades, he'll make the plays.

drgnbkr
12-20-2005, 02:30 PM
Riley I'm sure is a gifted kid with no doubt a lot influance, but I hope people will just let him be a kid playing a game. I get the impression that a lot of people (not just SLC) are expecting him to be something more than he is capable of being too soon. Too much presure could detour his developement from being something special instead wind up being an average QB playing with the weight of the world on him at 16 or 17 years old.

Pack..your right about expectations on Riley...this years were unbelievable on McElroy and he exceeded them..in Rileys case, I believe he will be fine because he is going to be a junior, so the college thing will not be as big as it was for Mc...I also think that Riley is not prototypical quarterback size, so the expectations are not the same as they are for a McElroy, Stafford, Snead, etc...Anything that Riley does will be in the mold of an undersized, overacheiver...IMO He also goes home every night with the coach, which is a blessing for the most part, but can be a curse when he screws up...

PurpleNation
12-20-2005, 03:10 PM
Pack..your right about expectations on Riley...this years were unbelievable on McElroy and he exceeded them..in Rileys case, I believe he will be fine because he is going to be a junior, so the college thing will not be as big as it was for Mc...I also think that Riley is not prototypical quarterback size, so the expectations are not the same as they are for a McElroy, Stafford, Snead, etc...Anything that Riley does will be in the mold of an undersized, overacheiver...IMO He also goes home every night with the coach, which is a blessing for the most part, but can be a curse when he screws up...


What I seen in Dodge I know SLC will be back next season. I think he knows how to handle pressure he did throw a perfect TD pass on us while getting hammered by our OLB.

Favpack
12-20-2005, 03:58 PM
The spread was not as formidable in 2001 as it is now. I'm trying to remember exactly when Lufkin went no huddle spread? I think it was DURING the 2001 year - not prior to. Coach Cullum was an incredible qb coach and play caller - could not keep him in the fold - he had hc written all over him. The spread is just now really ingrained in these kids - working with it for 3-4 years at all levels.

pack0808
12-20-2005, 04:47 PM
What I seen in Dodge I know SLC will be back next season. I think he knows how to handle pressure he did throw a perfect TD pass on us while getting hammered by our OLB.


I cannot imagine the pressure that kid is going to have on him next year!! :eek: I mean he is only becoming the starter after the last 3 qb's won the offensive mvp of the year award, broke all kinds of records, and all won state championships!. Not to mention he is the coaches son. That is BIG TIME PRESSURE!! He will have to be a special kid to handle it.

drgnbkr
12-20-2005, 05:03 PM
I cannot imagine the pressure that kid is going to have on him next year!! :eek: I mean he is only becoming the starter after the last 3 qb's won the offensive mvp of the year award, broke all kinds of records, and all won state championships!. Not to mention he is the coaches son. That is BIG TIME PRESSURE!! He will have to be a special kid to handle it.

He is...but he is different from the others...more like Wasson than either Daniel or McElroy..especially if he can put on 10 -15 pounds and keep his outstanding speed.

EasTex9
12-20-2005, 06:53 PM
Lufkin has another xcvr that is a sleeper. Don't count out the Christopherson kid. Great blocker, great hands and very good speed. Transferred in from Colorado last year and most don't know much about him. Great gene pool, his dad played LB for Lou Holtz at University of Minnesota. A larger version of Marcus Raines.;)

drgnbkr
12-20-2005, 07:29 PM
Lufkin has another xcvr that is a sleeper. Don't count out the Christopherson kid. Great blocker, great hands and very good speed. Transferred in from Colorado last year and most don't know much about him. Great gene pool, his dad played LB for Lou Holtz at University of Minnesota. A larger version of Marcus Raines.;)

Did'nt he write "Me & Bobby McGee"?......:D

EasTex9
12-20-2005, 08:05 PM
Jeez can't get nothing past you lake guys..:D

PurpleNation
12-20-2005, 08:29 PM
Lufkin has another xcvr that is a sleeper. Don't count out the Christopherson kid. Great blocker, great hands and very good speed. Transferred in from Colorado last year and most don't know much about him. Great gene pool, his dad played LB for Lou Holtz at University of Minnesota. A larger version of Marcus Raines.;)


What are you talking about

Packattack94
12-20-2005, 08:55 PM
Yeah Bagley will make a major impact on the team...I know him and if he makes the grades, he'll make the plays.

Is his father's name Irish? if so, this kid is a stud!!

pack0808
12-21-2005, 11:24 AM
Lufkin has another xcvr that is a sleeper. Don't count out the Christopherson kid. Great blocker, great hands and very good speed. Transferred in from Colorado last year and most don't know much about him. Great gene pool, his dad played LB for Lou Holtz at University of Minnesota. A larger version of Marcus Raines.;)


Is this for real or did i miss the joke?

LP Pride
12-21-2005, 12:27 PM
Not a joke. Was a QB converted to xcvr. Played mostly JV this season, but did suit up for many Varsity games. Could start for a lot of 5A programs, hope he gets a legitimate shot.;) Thank he's about 5'11" not sure about weight...with a year to grow.

LP Pride
12-21-2005, 12:29 PM
BTW. Has a younger brother that played sophomore ball @ RB. Tough runner.

PantherStang84
12-22-2005, 08:19 PM
In 03 Lufkin had everything to get it done except the TEAM concept. Internal breakdown with no real team leadership. It was disapointing but a lot was learned from it. The last two teams have had team leadership and played as a team. No one had the superstar mentality this year as I saw.

Agreed. I think the coaching staff learned some valuable lessons that year about keeping players' and parents' egos in check.

lpfanforever
12-26-2005, 01:57 AM
lufkin is looking better on offense in 06 on paper.
two of the talented WR's will be returning. im pretty sure we will see j davis move into one of the WR's spots. then im pretty sure nobles will be the 2nd string quarterback.


i also can't wait till the day trevon lewis gets to step on the field to play varsity. if he keeps on playing like he is , should be a very amazing RB. this kid has shown his great talent since i first watched him his 7th grade year.

pack4life
12-26-2005, 12:07 PM
Bagley will be playing DB in 06'.