Lewisville Hebron

[jtk1519]

It's pretty much a given that Hebron will be 5A next year since they turned in an enrollment of 2168. After winning the 4A Div. II state title this year, do you think Hebron can be successful next year in 5A? I know they will lose their best player in RB Derke Robinson, but it seems like they have some good talent. It will be interesting to see what their district looks like and how they do.

[farmerfan]

Coach Brazil has this program ready for the step up to 5A. Both freshman teams went undefeated and one of the JV teams went undfeated as well. The 7th and 8th grade teams at Arbor Creek middle school which is the Hebron feeder, won the Lewisville city championship for the 3rd straight year. Coach Brazil was asked if they were ready for 5A, and his comment was as he gave away a laugh, "o yeah, we're ready". As far as district's go, look for the Lewisville schools to be placed in with the Carrollton schools. With Carrollton having 3 high schools that would make it a 8 team district. I think Hebron will run away with the district championship and make some noise similar to what Denton Ryan did in its first 5A year.

[jtk1519]

I know it's unrealistic to expect them to do what SLC and Smithson Valley did in their first year of 5A, but I think expectations will be high. If Hebron wasn’t in the same region as SLC I would expect even more out of them.

It's important to remember that Hebron is only six years old I believe. I don't know what to say about a team that wins a state championship in only it's 6th year of existence, but that is damn impressive. This team is 34-5 over the last three seasons and the have put up some pretty impressive numbers. Hebron might be a serious team to watch out for in '06.

[KT2000]

I think Hebron will be a serious player in 5A. Obviously, the alignment will be key but if they go where most are projecting they have a great shot to win district in my opinion.

[farmerfan]

I know it's unrealistic to expect them to do what SLC and Smithson Valley did in their first year of 5A, but I think expectations will be high. If Hebron wasn’t in the same region as SLC I would expect even more out of them.

It's important to remember that Hebron is only six years old I believe. I don't know what to say about a team that wins a state championship in only it's 6th year of existence, but that is damn impressive. This team is 34-5 over the last three seasons and the have put up some pretty impressive numbers. Hebron might be a serious team to watch out for in '06.


I agree with you 100%. I have said some similar things in other threads. This program is going to be a force for a long, long time. Coach Brazil is a excellent coach when LHS lost him and Bill Peitrosky (former OC who retired after 99) we started to see a decline in our numbers, Brazil was the DC at LHS from 1992-1998. I felt they had a defense good enough to contain Stafford and HP, some call me a dumb a$$ when I say that, its just the way I felt after seeing HP 2x and Hebron 2x. The scary thing is, its been said that the best Hebron team will be when these freshman are seniors :eek:

[farmerfan]

I think Hebron will be a serious player in 5A. Obviously, the alignment will be key but if they go where most are projecting they have a great shot to win district in my opinion.

I think not only win district but walk away with it. I know its not saying much, but the last two years in a scrimmage, LHS has not managed 100 yds of offense on these guys. This past year they held us to negative yards rushing when they had the starters in.

[NMHS fan]

Hebron will definitely be a threat, IMO.

[jtk1519]

What district do you think they will join? I look at it and think they will be in a district with Allen and maybe Wylie... certainly not pushovers. They could be in a district with Plano or Garland and S. Garland. Either way, I don't think it will be "easy" for them, but I do think they can win.

[dragonfootballfan]

In 2002 there was a surprise move that put Carroll and Coppell in the Lewisville schools district. This has not been mentioned, but could happen again. If the Colony stays 5A which is not likely then all they would have to is add one school to make it 8 teams

[dragonsdaddy]

What district do you think they will join? I look at it and think they will be in a district with Allen and maybe Wylie... certainly not pushovers. They could be in a district with Plano or Garland and S. Garland. Either way, I don't think it will be "easy" for them, but I do think they can win.
they will certainly be with the other lisd bretheren, except possible the colony. they could go with the jesuit/carrollton schools(likely), the coppell/gvine isd/carroll(likely), the coppell/keller/carroll(possible) or plano/allen(not unlikely).

[farmerfan]

they will certainly be with the other lisd bretheren, except possible the colony. they could go with the jesuit/carrollton schools(likely), the coppell/gvine isd/carroll(likely), the coppell/keller/carroll(possible) or plano/allen(not unlikely).

I would not mind going with Coppell,G-vine and SLC. I know it will mean us getting slaughtered by some of those teams, I just think it would mean more for one of the LISD schools to make the playoffs in that district. If they go in with the Carrollton schools it would be considered one of the weakest districts in the state and that would pain me to have to say that my Farmers and the rest of the LISD schools are in the weakest district in the state. I also think Hebron and SLC would be one heck of a matchup next year.

[jtk1519]

I don't know what I was thinking. I think I might have been confusing Hebron with Wylie or something. Hebron should join a district with the Lewisville schools and maybe the Colleyville schools. Hebron would own such a district.

[HebronHawk]

District 6-5A:

Hebron
Lewisville
Flower Mound Marcus
Flower Mound
Coppell
Carrollton Creekview
Carrollton Newman Smith
Carrollton RL Turner

[CoppellCowboy57]

District 6-5A:

Hebron
Lewisville
Flower Mound Marcus
Flower Mound
Coppell
Carrollton Creekview
Carrollton Newman Smith
Carrollton RL Turner


My Thoughts On Hebrons District Outcome

Lewisville- W
Flower Mound Marcus- L
Flower Mound- W
Coppell- W
Carrollton Creekview- W
Carrollton Newman Smith- W
Carrollton RL Turner- W

COPPELLS :-)
Lewisville- W
Flower Mound Marcus - W
Flower Mound- W
Lewisville Hebron- L
Carrollton Creekview- W
Carrollton Newman Smith- W
Carrollton RL Turner- L

[HebronHawk]

My Thoughts On Hebrons District Outcome

Lewisville- W
Flower Mound Marcus- L
Flower Mound- W
Coppell- W
Carrollton Creekview- W
Carrollton Newman Smith- W
Carrollton RL Turner- W

COPPELLS :-)
Lewisville- W
Flower Mound Marcus - W
Flower Mound- W
Lewisville Hebron- L
Carrollton Creekview- W
Carrollton Newman Smith- W
Carrollton RL Turner- L


I think that Hebron will probably sweep the district games. Would expect most trouble from Creekview and Flower Mound.

[lonny23]

I agree with you 100%. I have said some similar things in other threads. This program is going to be a force for a long, long time. Coach Brazil is a excellent coach when LHS lost him and Bill Peitrosky (former OC who retired after 99) we started to see a decline in our numbers, Brazil was the DC at LHS from 1992-1998. I felt they had a defense good enough to contain Stafford and HP, some call me a dumb a$$ when I say that, its just the way I felt after seeing HP 2x and Hebron 2x. The scary thing is, its been said that the best Hebron team will be when these freshman are seniors :eek:
Some of us would call you one anyway!:p

Hey, are you back now?

[lonny23]

I'm going to agree with you guys about Hebron being a player. I still maintain that the hardest classes to move into and maintain success are 3A and 4A. It's not as hard to move from 4A to 5A.

[texasboy]

does hebron has what it takes to stop slc and if they do are they capable of taking down a dominant lufkin team? With all the statistics i dont think they are capable of beating either one of those teams in the 06 season

[dragonsdaddy]

flash-april 2001. slc loses the privilege of being the giant in 4a and has to take their 1 game losing streak(49-14) to play with the big boys for a change as the smallest(nearly) team in 5a. they will be replacing a record setting qb and isn't returning a rb or their leading wr. the concensus opinion of all the 5a-ists around the state is that slc will have to pay some dues before they'll be accepted into the club. l-ville isd laughs at the thumping they'll be placing on the upstarts next fall. they are so far off the 5a radar, the mere thought of them being in the top 10 in the state draws a large round of guffaws. they are given a slight chance of earning a third place po spot, and a quick trip into basketball season.

how'd all that play out after all?

[HebronHawk]

does hebron has what it takes to stop slc and if they do are they capable of taking down a dominant lufkin team? With all the statistics i dont think they are capable of beating either one of those teams in the 06 season

Hebron can play SLC very close. Both teams have deep talent and great coaching. Hard to bet on the outcome of that game.

I have no opinion about a Hebron vs. Lufkin game. I have never seen Lufkin play.

I do know that any team that plays Hebron can expect to see speed and size in abundance. Hebron likes to hit, hit and hit again.

You have to be a team that can take a lot of punishment for a full 4 quarters because that's what you will get.

Guard your QB. Hebron took them out of the game regularly last year.

[farmerfan]

flash-april 2001. slc loses the privilege of being the giant in 4a and has to take their 1 game losing streak(49-14) to play with the big boys for a change as the smallest(nearly) team in 5a. they will be replacing a record setting qb and isn't returning a rb or their leading wr. the concensus opinion of all the 5a-ists around the state is that slc will have to pay some dues before they'll be accepted into the club. l-ville isd laughs at the thumping they'll be placing on the upstarts next fall. they are so far off the 5a radar, the mere thought of them being in the top 10 in the state draws a large round of guffaws. they are given a slight chance of earning a third place po spot, and a quick trip into basketball season.

how'd all that play out after all?


DD
Your memory is incredible, however I hope you can remember that their was one guy outside the Dragon Nation that believed in that team after he saw them against FM Marcus. That first district game SLC played at Max Goldsmith Stadium was incredible, if memory serves me right, they had over 50 by the half. I did not go to the Lewisville/Coppell game that week just to see how great this SLC team was and came away flabergasted. Especially after I was a big critic of talking down on the schefule of Waxahachie, Sherman and Denison and I know their were two more, but you are right in your comparison to those Dragons and the Hawks.
All that said and getting back to Hebron, you are one of the true consistent voices on this board.
Being a Lewisville fan, I still pull for our district and especially Coach Brazzil. It might be a stretch to say they are going to win a state championship this year, however you are the one TX HS football fan that realizes the potential they have coming into a district with the so called "BIG BOYS".
Thank You for keeping the objectiveness.

[blueraiders11]

Hebron's district is weak

They should have no trouble getting into the playoffs.

[dragonfootballfan]

I would have Hebron as a top five in 5A right now. I probably would have had them as a top five team in Texas last year.