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trinitytrojansdominate
04-13-2009, 11:49 PM
1. L.D. Bell
2. Flower Mound
3. Trinity
4. To be honest, I don't really know any other ones besides Bell and Trinity..I only put Flower Mound because I have a friend in that band

33Blood
04-13-2009, 11:51 PM
1. L.D. Bell
2. Flower Mound
3. Trinity
4. To be honest, I don't really know any other ones besides Bell and Trinity..I only put Flower Mound because I have a friend in that band

I haven't seen them in a few years. But Wylie had a pretty impressive band at one time.

eaglefan2000
04-13-2009, 11:54 PM
ALLEN EAGLE ESCADRILLE

Not only are they loud and proud in the stands, the halftime shows are spectacular - never boring.

(It's possible I am mildly biased)

Berkner is second

trinitytrojansdominate
04-13-2009, 11:56 PM
ALLEN EAGLE ESCADRILLE

Not only are they loud and proud in the stands, the halftime shows are spectacular - never boring.

(It's possible I am mildly biased)

Berkner is second



They also play the National Anthem during the Haka ;P lol

mojosoundwave
04-14-2009, 12:00 AM
No comment :mad:

MemorialMustangs
04-14-2009, 12:17 AM
Westfield is really good

b756561
04-14-2009, 12:20 AM
They also play the National Anthem during the Haka ;P lol

Only when the Haka is being done during the time reserved for the National Anthem. Pregame activities are scheduled you know.

yankee
04-14-2009, 12:21 AM
not carroll.

mojosoundwave
04-14-2009, 12:26 AM
No comment :mad:

On most West Texas bands anyway :(

Spring, The Woodlands and Duncanville are usually good.
Flower Mound Marcus, Coppell, L D Bell and Hebron were all good last year.

mojotrain
04-14-2009, 12:26 AM
No comment :mad:

This!:mad:

the_phoenix612
04-14-2009, 12:28 AM
ALLEN EAGLE ESCADRILLE

Not only are they loud and proud in the stands, the halftime shows are spectacular - never boring.

(It's possible I am mildly biased)

Berkner is second


they asked for best, not most obnoxious.

standing still and playing really loud does not a good band make...

alleneagle4
04-14-2009, 12:33 AM
i KNOW that i submitted my "retirement proclamation" last week.... BUT, this is where I come in.......

FM Marcus..... AMAZING BAND! Great, truly impressive, and enjoyable to watch
LD Bell...... always great!
Trinity's band...... eh.. ?? alright, not too great


Consider me a homer, BUT, seein as this IS a football board, I laugh at anyone who believes that they're band is a better FOOTBALL band than the Allen Eagle Band..... take the time and honestly consider it.

"AT THE FOOTBALL GAME"S..........
under the direction of Gibson a few years ago... referees honestly walked over to Westerberg/Martin, and told them that the band needs to stop being as loud, because they caused a false start by the opposing teams linemen! No Jokes..... honest truth, i was there. That happened on multiple accounts and various games! Refs even threatened to throw a flag (even though they absolutely couldn't). :cool:

Allen Band plays with a great sound (and an AMAZING sound when compared to Hightower's Band (aka Tuba Section) AND actual entertaining music (Final Countdown, Horse, Macarena, obviously Grandioso, Contender, Iron Man, our Fight Song MANY MANY times, and hearing the beginning of "Celebration" w/ about 30sec. left of every game is a beautiful sound :D)
The award winning drumline sounds great, and even gets some players dancing on the sidelines.
Plano, Plano East, Plano West fans complain ALMOST every year (mainly PESH) about how the Allen Band was distracting and too loud........... ?:confused:
HAHAHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zKiRSogKkY

and Finally, as my final argument..........

just feel free to watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGDRZUqINts


:notworthy:notworthy





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alleneagle4
04-14-2009, 12:49 AM
They also play the National Anthem during the Haka ;P lol


..............true :o:p

but we learned from our mistakes, realized it didn't work, so we didn't do it the second time.........


worked much better :D

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alleneagle4
04-14-2009, 01:02 AM
they asked for best, not most obnoxious.

standing still and playing really loud does not a good band make...

Sure is a lot of marching in this video............
Not to mention we could be considered Band District Champions...... beat Plano Senior... PESH, and WYLIE (along w/ the other lower bands)
don't know what you've been watching/listening to

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DragonBand06
04-14-2009, 01:10 AM
The best?
1. L.D. Bell
2. Marcus
3. Martin

Allen is easily the loudest, but not the best quality.

The band nerd has spoken.

alleneagle4
04-14-2009, 01:42 AM
The best?
1. L.D. Bell
2. Marcus
3. Martin

Allen is easily the loudest, but not the best quality.

The band nerd has spoken.

...... not the BEST quality, but easily in the top 25%

they were two spots away from going to state in band

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DragonBand06
04-14-2009, 02:03 AM
...... not the BEST quality, but easily in the top 25%

they were two spots away from going to state in bandIn our region, top 25 just won't cut it. This region is easily some of the highest quality in the state in terms of bands. 2 spots away is good but not great - we got that close during my time at Carroll and we weren't that good.

Also, I forgot to mention Duncanville. Year in and year out, a solid program.

Bandnerd1983
04-14-2009, 02:36 AM
1. L.D. Bell
2. Flower Mound
3. Trinity
4. To be honest, I don't really know any other ones besides Bell and Trinity..I only put Flower Mound because I have a friend in that band

Someone needs too tell me why they think L.D. Bell is the best band? Their show this year was the most boring show I have ever seen. If I want too hear symphonic music I'll wait until concert season in the spring, it doesn't belong on a football field.

What is the purpose of a Marching band, they are too entertain fans in the stands and at halftime, not put them too sleep.

eaglefan2000
04-14-2009, 03:01 AM
In our region, top 25 just won't cut it. This region is easily some of the highest quality in the state in terms of bands. 2 spots away is good but not great - we got that close during my time at Carroll and we weren't that good.

Also, I forgot to mention Duncanville. Year in and year out, a solid program.

Allen's program is unlike any other for a couple of reasons.

First, Allen marches every student who wants to participate in grades 9-12. They compete against a lot of 10-12 and 11-12 schools where band is a "cut sport." In Allen, the district knows that if you put Freshman on the sidelines, you will lose a lot of them from the program and they lose the benefits of continuing music education and the fun of being part of the Escadrille. It is a different value system altogether. Kids are more important than trophies.

Think of trying to win a state football championship if you told the coaches every kid who wanted to play had to be given equal minutes in the game.

Even with all that, though, there are some pretty prestigious awards in the trophy case - like the Sudler Shield. So it's "no excuses" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Philip_Sousa_Foundation#The_Sudler_Shield


Second, Allen believes in halftime entertainment. Their shows are extravaganzas. These don't generally score as well at competition - but again, that's not what it is all about.

Seriously, when you all won all those state championships, did the football team feel inspired to give the band directors a "12th man" ring? Did you ever give the band the game ball? (Has happened in Allen.)

This thread is about the best band at a football game - it's Allen, no competition.

DragonBand06
04-14-2009, 03:44 AM
Allen's program is unlike any other for a couple of reasons.

First, Allen marches every student who wants to participate in grades 9-12. They compete against a lot of 10-12 and 11-12 schools where band is a "cut sport." In Allen, the district knows that if you put Freshman on the sidelines, you will lose a lot of them from the program and they lose the benefits of continuing music education and the fun of being part of the Escadrille. It is a different value system altogether. Kids are more important than trophies.

Think of trying to win a state football championship if you told the coaches every kid who wanted to play had to be given equal minutes in the game.
Hate to break it to you but we did the exact same thing at Carroll all 4 years I was there - anyone who was in the band program and had passed their classes marched. We just don't have as big a school as Allen.

Even with all that, though, there are some pretty prestigious awards in the trophy case - like the Sudler Shield. So it's "no excuses" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ph..._Sudler_Shield
Again, all of the bands I mentioned are on that list.

Second, Allen believes in halftime entertainment. Their shows are extravaganzas. These don't generally score as well at competition - but again, that's not what it is all about.

Trust me, we played Allen plenty of times and I saw them at band competition, and other than the fact that 500 people is really loud, they didn't do anything THAT special, either in musical or entertainment terms. Their shows were similar to all the other groups, they just didn't have the sound quality or marching skills that the top bands do.

Seriously, when you all won all those state championships, did the football team feel inspired to give the band directors a "12th man" ring? Did you ever give the band the game ball? (Has happened in Allen.)

This thread is about the best band at a football game - it's Allen, no competition.I really fail to see how the football team appreciating the band makes the band special. Just because the students have that bond, it doesn't meant that the band is that much better than another band at a football game - it just means that they appreciate each other.

I'm not saying that Allen's band isn't quality; I'm saying that they don't do that much more for their fans/team than other bands do, and in musical competition they aren't top 3. And you can't say I'm biased because I am the first to admit that Carroll's band also doesn't match up in competition.

Wypirates03
04-14-2009, 03:56 AM
Sure is a lot of marching in this video............
Not to mention we could be considered Band District Champions...... beat Plano Senior... PESH, and WYLIE (along w/ the other lower bands)
don't know what you've been watching/listening to

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There really isn't a lot of marching in that video.

Plano Senior is rarely any good. PESH had a down year, and Wylie wasn't too tough to beat considering they did the same exact show (well, a couple minor differences) as they did in 2002. And it was horrible.

TigerAlum02
04-14-2009, 05:24 AM
I haven't seen them in a few years, but I know Houston Madison had an amazing band when I was in school. They were by far the most extravagant and entertaining (albeit untraditional) high school band I have seen.

dragonpants
04-14-2009, 07:30 AM
Who Cares????????????????????????????

dragonpants
04-14-2009, 07:34 AM
There really isn't a lot of marching in that video.

Plano Senior is rarely any good. PESH had a down year, and Wylie wasn't too tough to beat considering they did the same exact show (well, a couple minor differences) as they did in 2002. And it was horrible.

Look at that capacity crowd !!!!!!
That is the perfect picture that proves that no one other than band parents really give a crap.
Yes they are a part of the game but I am sick and tired of hearing how the band is always short changed and does not get enough respect and people need to support them more.
If there is not a football game no one is watching.
I have the utmost respect for all the hard work that ya'll do and certainly add to the atmosphere of the game but enough already that they deserve equal funding etc to football. Generate the type of $ that the football team does and then you can talk, as a matter of fact just as in college without the football revenue the other sports teams simply would not exist at a major college level.

DrEdward
04-14-2009, 07:52 AM
Look at that capacity crowd !!!!!!
That is the perfect picture that proves that no one other than band parents really give a crap.
Yes they are a part of the game but I am sick and tired of hearing how the band is always short changed and does not get enough respect and people need to support them more.
If there is not a football game no one is watching.
I have the utmost respect for all the hard work that ya'll do and certainly add to the atmosphere of the game but enough already that they deserve equal funding etc to football. Generate the type of $ that the football team does and then you can talk, as a matter of fact just as in college without the football revenue the other sports teams simply would not exist at a major college level.

Well, in fairness to the bands, I think that video is from one of the marching competitions at Pennington I believe, where seating is generally prohibited on one side. So can't really judge the crowd from that view. At these competitions, the crowds are fairly large, by band standards, but mainly because of the number of bands present at one session and their parents, of course. But those competitions are actually pretty entertaining.

bowiedawgs01
04-14-2009, 08:09 AM
Bowie's band is always rated very high and does pretty well at State. But sometimes they leave a little to be desired at football games. They don't always play when they should, or what they should. They leave the stands with 8-10 minutes left in the 2nd quarter to warm up. They don't play the fight song for the team to take the field in the 2nd half (because they're milling around trying to get into the stands after their show).

They care more about band than the football atmosphere. That's somewhat understandable since that's what they do. But I'd like to see the director try and do a better job with the gameday atmosphere. We have the band to do it. They're big, loud and technically sound.

Magellan
04-14-2009, 09:03 AM
Westfield is really good

Agreed. I consider this to be "really good" (courtesy of TheBigRedBand.org)...

1987 - State Marching Contest Champions
1988 - State Marching Contest Champions
1989 - State Marching Contest Champions
1990 - BOA Regional Finals - Champions (1st in prelims)
1990 - BOA Grand Nationals - 2nd (by .05 points)
1991 - BOA Regional Finals - 2nd (1st in prelims)
1992 - BOA Regional Finals - Champions (1st in prelims)
1992 - UIL 5A State Marching Champions
1992 - Mid-West Band and Orchestra Clinic Convention (Symphonic Band)
1993 - BOA Regional Finals - 2nd
1993 - BOA Grand Nationals - 2nd (by .05 points)
1994 - BOA Regional Finals - 2nd
1994 - UIL 5A State Marching Championship - 2nd
1995 - BOA Regional Finals - Champions
1995 - BOA Grand Nationals - 2nd (1st in Prelims)
1995 - Sudler Flag Award Recipient
1996 - BOA Regional Finals Champions
1996 - UIL State 5A State Marching Champions
1996 - Mid-West Band and Orchestra Clinic Convention (Symphonic Band)
1997 - BOA Regional Finals - 2nd
1998 - BOA Regional Finals - 2nd (1st in prelims)
1998 - UIL 5A State Marching Champions
1999 - BOA Regionals - 2nd
2000 - BOA Regionals - 10th
2000 - 5A State Honor Band
2000 - 5A TMEA Honor Symphonic Band
2001 - 5A TMEA Honor Symphonic Band
2001 - BOA Regionals - 5th (2nd in prelims)
2002 - Sam Houston State University Marching Contest Grand Champions
2002 - BOA Regionals - 9th (early)
2002 - BOA Regionals - 4th (late)
2003 - BOA Regionals - 2nd (early)
2003 - BOA Super-Regional San Antonio - Champion
2003 - BOA Grand Nationals - Champion (1st in Prelims, Semi-Finals and Finals)

RedRage00
04-14-2009, 09:04 AM
1. L.D. Bell
2. Flower Mound
3. Trinity
4. To be honest, I don't really know any other ones besides Bell and Trinity..I only put Flower Mound because I have a friend in that band

Trinity? That is a homer pick because they suck.

Biggest and entertaining is ALLEN. They aren't GREAT, but they are fun to watch just because of pure size and sound.

Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
04-14-2009, 09:06 AM
..............true :o:p

but we learned from our mistakes, realized it didn't work, so we didn't do it the second time.........


worked much better :D

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SShhhhhhhhh!! Don't tell Plano's band this - they keep pissing Trinity off which works for us.

allendad
04-14-2009, 09:24 AM
My oldest son went to a HS that has a marching band that has been state champion for 15 consecutive years! I have seen AND heard what it takes to be a champion in the marching band "arena".

I have a daughter that was involved with the Allen Escadrille for her four years of HS. I have seen what it takes to NOT win a competiton in Texas.

Allen will never "win", primarily because they are too big for the judges. They feel that a band should be a smaller concise unit, NOT a group that fills the entire field.

There is a difference between having 600 9-12 graders on the field and having a hand-picked 125 11-12 graders out there. Allen could do the same, but in the WISDOM of the leaders they see the big picture of instilling the love of MUSIC and "MARCHING" into as many kids as want to participate.

For a "football game" band . . . . . . . I am extremely biased . . . . . .

Allen Escadrille

Hands down the best!

At ANY other football game . . .
the BAND would NEVER be mentioned, period!

allendad
04-14-2009, 09:51 AM
Official Euless Trinity National Anthem Earwear @ Allen HS!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AHRtcsPgUMY/SY_fn92ioTI/AAAAAAAAAX4/-gH8PAraIz8/s320/kids-ear-plugs.jpeg
:D;):D;)

Trinity Trojan Fan For Li
04-14-2009, 10:37 AM
I don't see any hookups for sound on that ear protection. Fix your friggin sound system at that double-wide stadium of yours! ;)

Magellan
04-14-2009, 10:57 AM
My oldest son went to a HS that has a marching band that has been state champion for 15 consecutive years! I have seen AND heard what it takes to be a champion in the marching band "arena".

I have a daughter that was involved with the Allen Escadrille for her four years of HS. I have seen what it takes to NOT win a competiton in Texas.

Allen will never "win", primarily because they are too big for the judges. They feel that a band should be a smaller concise unit, NOT a group that fills the entire field.

There is a difference between having 600 9-12 graders on the field and having a hand-picked 125 11-12 graders out there. Allen could do the same, but in the WISDOM of the leaders they see the big picture of instilling the love of MUSIC and "MARCHING" into as many kids as want to participate.

For a "football game" band . . . . . . . I am extremely biased . . . . . .

Allen Escadrille

Hands down the best!

At ANY other football game . . .
the BAND would NEVER be mentioned, period!

I agree. The UIL wants a wall of sound coming from a max of 160 kids (perfectly in step).

33Blood
04-14-2009, 10:59 AM
I agree. The UIL wants a wall of sound coming from a max of 160 kids (perfectly in step).

Bad reference. He just got nailed for murder.

alleneagle4
04-14-2009, 11:47 AM
Hate to break it to you but we did the exact same thing at Carroll all 4 years I was there - anyone who was in the band program and had passed their classes marched. We just don't have as big a school as Allen.


Again, all of the bands I mentioned are on that list.



Trust me, we played Allen plenty of times and I saw them at band competition, and other than the fact that 500 people is really loud, they didn't do anything THAT special, either in musical or entertainment terms. Their shows were similar to all the other groups, they just didn't have the sound quality or marching skills that the top bands do.

I really fail to see how the football team appreciating the band makes the band special. Just because the students have that bond, it doesn't meant that the band is that much better than another band at a football game - it just means that they appreciate each other.

I'm not saying that Allen's band isn't quality; I'm saying that they don't do that much more for their fans/team than other bands do, and in musical competition they aren't top 3. And you can't say I'm biased because I am the first to admit that Carroll's band also doesn't match up in competition.


basically..... you don't have any clue what you're talking about

i'm going to leave it at that

alleneagle4
04-14-2009, 11:48 AM
Look at that capacity crowd !!!!!!
That is the perfect picture that proves that no one other than band parents really give a crap.
Yes they are a part of the game but I am sick and tired of hearing how the band is always short changed and does not get enough respect and people need to support them more.
If there is not a football game no one is watching.
I have the utmost respect for all the hard work that ya'll do and certainly add to the atmosphere of the game but enough already that they deserve equal funding etc to football. Generate the type of $ that the football team does and then you can talk, as a matter of fact just as in college without the football revenue the other sports teams simply would not exist at a major college level.

its called a band competition dip, no one is allowed to sit on the other sides..... because that crowd would be distracting to the judges....

goodness

SWMHebron
04-14-2009, 11:58 AM
its called a band competition dip, no one is allowed to sit on the other sides..... because that crowd would be distracting to the judges....

goodness

And since the band plays toward the judges you wouldn't really get to see anything from the back.

Drill team competitions are similar. You can sit opposite the judges but you don't really get to see much since they face the judges.

DragonBand06
04-14-2009, 12:08 PM
basically..... you don't have any clue what you're talking about

i'm going to leave it at thatYou're right...
9 years or playing in band and 11 years of playing music overall have taught me absolutely NOTHING about bands. Or music. :rolleyes:

DrEdward
04-14-2009, 12:09 PM
its called a band competition dip, no one is allowed to sit on the other sides..... because that crowd would be distracting to the judges....

goodness

I said it nicer. :p

Bottomline
04-14-2009, 12:12 PM
Best Bands ! Hey, Halftime is when all the dads hang out underneath the bleachers to discuss what the coach's are doing wrong ! :laugh ... Before the game give me some Mettalica " SandMan !! " Or ACDC Hells Bells, Thunder Strike ! :notworthy

DragonBand06
04-14-2009, 12:14 PM
Best Bands ! Hey, Halftime is when all the dads hang out underneath the bleachers to discuss what the coach's are doing wrong ! :laugh ... Before the game give me some Mettalica " SandMan !! " Or ACDC Hells Bells, Thunder Strike ! :notworthyWas that supposed to make sense?

slcdragonfan
04-14-2009, 12:35 PM
In 10 or 20 (maybe 30 or 40) years, bands will be playing 'Enter Sandman'!:eek:

Mark my words. Never thought I would hear Zeppelin on the marching field, but you hear it quite a bit nowadays.

twcpfan1
04-14-2009, 12:43 PM
College Park Cavalier Band

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgpqys8XukI

dada
04-14-2009, 12:48 PM
in terms of being loud, indimidating and disruptive to opposing offenses....Cinco Ranch's band.

Some bands get it...some bands don't. I love going to Katy games and when the opponets have the ball...Katy's band gets loud. Not to be out done...the other teams band is like "Hey...we can play loud too"......one day they will figure out....you don't play when your team has the ball.

dragonpants
04-14-2009, 12:49 PM
its called a band competition dip, no one is allowed to sit on the other sides..... because that crowd would be distracting to the judges....

goodness

Again who cares...........So how many people would show up for a band competition between 2 bands?

DragonBand06
04-14-2009, 12:51 PM
in terms of being loud, indimidating and disruptive to opposing offenses....Cinco Ranch's band.

Some bands get it...some bands don't. I love going to Katy games and when the opponets have the ball...Katy's band gets loud. Not to be out done...the other teams band is like "Hey...we can play loud too"......one day they will figure out....you don't play when your team has the ball.In my experience, you are supposed to play when your team is on offense, and cadences are allowed when on defense. That may just be how it's done around here, but almost all the other bands we saw did it that way. Not saying it makes sense, just that's how it is done around these parts.

twcpfan1
04-14-2009, 12:51 PM
in terms of being loud, indimidating and disruptive to opposing offenses....Cinco Ranch's band.

Some bands get it...some bands don't. I love going to Katy games and when the opponets have the ball...Katy's band gets loud. Not to be out done...the other teams band is like "Hey...we can play loud too"......one day they will figure out....you don't play when your team has the ball.

Did you hear that? Katy's band are the only ones who have it all figured out. The rest of us need to keep up :D

slcdragonfan
04-14-2009, 12:53 PM
College Park Cavalier Band

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgpqys8XukI

almost got seasick from that video ;)

twcpfan1
04-14-2009, 12:53 PM
Again who cares...........So how many people would show up for a band competition between 2 bands?

Probably more than some of the crowds at football games between HISD schools.

dada
04-14-2009, 12:54 PM
Did you hear that? Katy's band are the only ones who have it all figured out. The rest of us need to keep up :D

Stop putting words im my mouth or I will tell everyone up 45 that you show up to Katy games in battle red.

I used Katy because I'm at a majority of their games....but I've seen it other places also. Band gets loud while other team is on offense and the other band is like "uhhhh...I think we should play right now...really loud"

twcpfan1
04-14-2009, 12:55 PM
Stop putting words im my mouth or I will tell everyone up 45 that you show up to Katy games in battle red.

I used Katy because I'm at a majority of their games....but I've seen it other places also. Band gets loud while other team is on offense and the other band is like "uhhhh...I think we should play right now...really loud"

Haha funny. Just messin with you, my friend.

dada
04-14-2009, 12:56 PM
In my experience, you are supposed to play when your team is on offense, and cadences are allowed when on defense. That may just be how it's done around here, but almost all the other bands we saw did it that way. Not saying it makes sense, just that's how it is done around these parts.

That seems Bass Ackwards.

Lets say the home team has the ball....I don't think the band should be blaring full force....you want your team to hear the snap...etc...not saying it's golf...but you know. On defense.....the home teams crowd is going crazy...band full blast.....that's how it SHOULD be.

alleneagle4
04-14-2009, 12:56 PM
You're right...
9 years or playing in band and 11 years of playing music overall have taught me absolutely NOTHING about bands. Or music. :rolleyes:

NO..... 9 years of being in a band made you believe that people honestly care about the halftime show as much as the game going on....... and made you believe that band was just as important as the football team/game

This is a football board, and to say anything other than that Allen has the best FOOTBALL BAND in the nation, is ill-conceived and hilarious.......

not a homer opinion, but a state fact.

7 years of playing in band HAS taught me that its fun, most people aren't nerds like the media suggests (although there are plenty), and its an easy way to get into the football games for free (until actually playin), but its also taught me that the competitions and ratings are a joke, and its NOT about who has the best sound or the straightest lines...... but about entertaining the crowd until the 2nd half kickoff..... simple as that

you can say "Allen is huge and loud but no quality", like all the other haters do, but come look at our trophy case and watch us in person, and then reconsider.

dada
04-14-2009, 12:56 PM
Haha funny. Just messin with you, my friend.

I wasn't joking about your Katy tiger shirt that you secretly wear....I'm pretty sure we have pics!:)

alleneagle4
04-14-2009, 12:57 PM
I said it nicer. :p

you definately did...... :notworthy

but its pretty easy to say almost anythin nicer than i do :o

twcpfan1
04-14-2009, 12:58 PM
I wasn't joking about your Katy tiger shirt that you secretly wear....I'm pretty sure we have pics!:)

In all seriousness, Katy is a true football band in the stands while TWCP and TWHS ... well... are not.

alleneagle4
04-14-2009, 01:00 PM
Again who cares...........So how many people would show up for a band competition between 2 bands?

its not between two bands, its usually between about 20 bands......... some of the most boring saturdays of my life

dada
04-14-2009, 01:00 PM
In all seriousness, Katy is a true football band in the stands while TWCP and TWHS ... well... are not.

I really don't remember TWHS band.....but that student section of their's......oh boy.

SWMHebron
04-14-2009, 01:02 PM
In my experience, you are supposed to play when your team is on offense, and cadences are allowed when on defense. That may just be how it's done around here, but almost all the other bands we saw did it that way. Not saying it makes sense, just that's how it is done around these parts.

That may be how the Aggies do it, which would explain a lot about their recent records.

The band plays when the opposition is on offense.

alleneagle4
04-14-2009, 01:03 PM
In my experience, you are supposed to play when your team is on offense, and cadences are allowed when on defense. That may just be how it's done around here, but almost all the other bands we saw did it that way. Not saying it makes sense, just that's how it is done around these parts.

When opposing team has the ball...... we play the entire time practically
When we have the ball..... drumline cadences, and get ready for the fight song......

when the opposing team has the ball right in front of the band, all bells are pointed toward center, playing grandioso

For some reason, opposing teams seem to have a lot more false starts when we play them....... :D:p

slcdragonfan
04-14-2009, 01:08 PM
NO..... 9 years of being in a band made you believe that people honestly care about the halftime show as much as the game going on....... and made you believe that band was just as important as the football team/game

This is a football board, and to say anything other than that Allen has the best FOOTBALL BAND in the nation, is ill-conceived and hilarious.......

not a homer opinion, but a state fact.

7 years of playing in band HAS taught me that its fun, most people aren't nerds like the media suggests (although there are plenty), and its an easy way to get into the football games for free (until actually playin), but its also taught me that the competitions and ratings are a joke, and its NOT about who has the best sound or the straightest lines...... but about entertaining the crowd until the 2nd half kickoff..... simple as that

you can say "Allen is huge and loud but no quality", like all the other haters do, but come look at our trophy case and watch us in person, and then reconsider.

My favorite band competition story (from around 1969-1971): we were at a band competition, and at that time it was all about straight lines, music, very military. Each band had done their piece and many of the bands were in the stands. Most were relatively large (150 or so) for the time to get a big sound, and entrances were from the sidelines or endzones as you would expect. Up comes Wheatley. They were small, perhaps 50 or so at the time. They entered the field from an endzone angle and marched right up to the middle of the field. Their tone and playing wasn't too great, and they did everything wrong as per what judging required then. They would 'freeze' with a leg up, moved around, didn't worry too much about lines. But they were the most entertaining band that day! They danced on the field, put their instruments down, had an absolutely GREAT time! ALL of the bands kids that had marched that day jumped up and applauded and cheered that band, a standing ovation from everyone because we all loved it. They got a 4 or 5 rating, about as bad as you can get, but they are the only memorable performance from that day. In fact, I don't recall another performance from any other band from that era.

Today, contest requires you to put a drama or play on the field, move in oblique circles, etc. I would just love to see one band come on and say 'to hell with it' and just do what they want to do, be it either military style or 'Wheatley' style. It has gotten almost as ridiculous as the corsages for homecoming.

marcusdrillmom
04-14-2009, 01:56 PM
best bands at football games

1)Marcus (I know homer choice) :)
2)Southlake Carroll
3)LD Bell

allendad
04-14-2009, 02:05 PM
I agree. The UIL wants a wall of sound coming from a max of 160 kids (perfectly in step).


The bands I've seen win are not "perfectly in step"!

allendad
04-14-2009, 02:07 PM
Best Bands ! Hey, Halftime is when all the dads hang out underneath the bleachers to discuss what the coach's are doing wrong ! :laugh ... Before the game give me some Mettalica " SandMan !! " Or ACDC Hells Bells, Thunder Strike ! :notworthy

Boy, you hit the nail right on the noggin!:D

allendad
04-14-2009, 02:13 PM
That may be how the Aggies do it, which would explain a lot about their recent records.
The band plays when the opposition is on offense.

Now here is a woman with a great sense of Humor!

Very nice . . . . I must say ! ! !

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

SWMHebron
04-14-2009, 02:20 PM
Now here is a woman with a great sense of Humor!

Very nice . . . . I must say ! ! !

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

My nephew-in-law is an Aggie so they are a frequent target at family gatherings. Just can't pass up the opportunity.

allendad
04-14-2009, 02:22 PM
My favorite band competition story (from around 1969-1971): we were at a band competition, and at that time it was all about straight lines, music, very military. Each band had done their piece and many of the bands were in the stands. Most were relatively large (150 or so) for the time to get a big sound, and entrances were from the sidelines or endzones as you would expect. Up comes Wheatley. They were small, perhaps 50 or so at the time. They entered the field from an endzone angle and marched right up to the middle of the field. Their tone and playing wasn't too great, and they did everything wrong as per what judging required then. They would 'freeze' with a leg up, moved around, didn't worry too much about lines. But they were the most entertaining band that day! They danced on the field, put their instruments down, had an absolutely GREAT time! ALL of the bands kids that had marched that day jumped up and applauded and cheered that band, a standing ovation from everyone because we all loved it. They got a 4 or 5 rating, about as bad as you can get, but they are the only memorable performance from that day. In fact, I don't recall another performance from any other band from that era.

Today, contest requires you to put a drama or play on the field, move in oblique circles, etc. I would just love to see one band come on and say 'to hell with it' and just do what they want to do, be it either military style or 'Yeats' style. It has gotten almost as ridiculous as the corsages for homecoming.

I know what you are saying.

A band competition is like watching your wife picking out clothes.:confused:

For marching . . . . . .
I love watching LONGVIEW.
They are old school MILITARY marching at its finest!

These Broadway musicals that PESH and Bell put on, with the fog and ballet
don't really cut it with me. But, that is just my preference.

I have noticed that a band from a "known champion" school gets higher
marks that ARE NOT deserved oft times. Judging in ANY competition is
EXTREMELY subjective. The judges come from a "good ol' boy" network that have to have their fingernails pulled before they will allow an "outsider" creep into the INNER CIRCLE.

That's just the way it is . . . . . . . . . ice-skating, gymnastics, dancing, any judged competition.

:(

eaglefan2000
04-14-2009, 02:24 PM
best bands at football games

1)Marcus (I know homer choice) :)

Y'all do make quite the entrance....

Stands junky
04-14-2009, 04:14 PM
besides our band, the woodlands is a "fan band". they get the crowd in to it. :D:rolleyes:

bigdaddydog
04-14-2009, 05:39 PM
I know what you are saying.

A band competition is like watching your wife picking out clothes.:confused:

For marching . . . . . .
I love watching LONGVIEW.
They are old school MILITARY marching at its finest!

These Broadway musicals that PESH and Bell put on, with the fog and ballet
don't really cut it with me. But, that is just my preference.

I have noticed that a band from a "known champion" school gets higher
marks that ARE NOT deserved oft times. Judging in ANY competition is
EXTREMELY subjective. The judges come from a "good ol' boy" network that have to have their fingernails pulled before they will allow an "outsider" creep into the INNER CIRCLE.

That's just the way it is . . . . . . . . . ice-skating, gymnastics, dancing, any judged competition.
:(


OK I get it! We should be blaming the Russian and the French judges??!! :D:cool:

Texas:
UIL = Unimaginative Incompetance League

France:
LDDD = Ligue dénuée d'imagination d'incompétence

Russia:
Uлн = Unimaginative лига неправоспособности (I don't know how to pronounce it either :rolleyes:)

Just once I would love to see the band break out and just get wild!!


~

slcdragonfan
04-14-2009, 06:17 PM
OK I get it! We should be blaming the Russian and the French judges??!! :D:cool:

Texas:
UIL = Unimaginative Incompetance League

France:
LDDD = Ligue dénuée d'imagination d'incompétence

Russia:
Uлн = Unimaginative лига неправоспособности (I don't know how to pronounce it either :rolleyes:)

Just once I would love to see the band break out and just get wild!!


~

For crying out loud, how in the heck did you type Russian on this board? What bizarre keyboard combo allowed that?

And, post contest, the Dragon band tends to let their hair down, we talked this before, with the trashcan percussion, dancing, etc. Most fun part of the season for the band, parents, and I think the football fans.

allendad
04-14-2009, 07:12 PM
OK I get it! We should be blaming the Russian and the French judges??!! :D:cool:

Texas:
UIL = Unimaginative Incompetance League

France:
LDDD = Ligue dénuée d'imagination d'incompétence

Russia:
Uлн = Unimaginative лига неправоспособности (I don't know how to pronounce it either :rolleyes:)
Just once I would love to see the band break out and just get wild!!


~


And to think that this young man barely finished Junior High School.

He has made us sooooo proud ! ! ! ! (Tears falling to the floor):laugh


I would NEVER have written in French, mon ami.:rolleyes:

Grlslvftball2
04-14-2009, 08:15 PM
Well, down around the Austin and surrounding areas it has to be..

Bowie, Pflug. Connally, Cedar Park, Westlake and Round Rock. (IMO);)

odessapermian.com
04-14-2009, 08:26 PM
Allen's program is unlike any other for a couple of reasons.

First, Allen marches every student who wants to participate in grades 9-12. They compete against a lot of 10-12 and 11-12 schools where band is a "cut sport." In Allen, the district knows that if you put Freshman on the sidelines, you will lose a lot of them from the program and they lose the benefits of continuing music education and the fun of being part of the Escadrille. It is a different value system altogether. Kids are more important than trophies.

Think of trying to win a state football championship if you told the coaches every kid who wanted to play had to be given equal minutes in the game.

Even with all that, though, there are some pretty prestigious awards in the trophy case - like the Sudler Shield. So it's "no excuses" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Philip_Sousa_Foundation#The_Sudler_Shield


Second, Allen believes in halftime entertainment. Their shows are extravaganzas. These don't generally score as well at competition - but again, that's not what it is all about.

Seriously, when you all won all those state championships, did the football team feel inspired to give the band directors a "12th man" ring? Did you ever give the band the game ball? (Has happened in Allen.)

This thread is about the best band at a football game - it's Allen, no competition.

This is a great post.

Plano West Wolf
04-14-2009, 09:26 PM
My top three are Flower Mound Marcus, Allen and Richardson Berkner.

bigdaddydog
04-14-2009, 11:24 PM
For crying out loud, how in the heck did you type Russian on this board? What bizarre keyboard combo allowed that?

And, post contest, the Dragon band tends to let their hair down, we talked this before, with the trashcan percussion, dancing, etc. Most fun part of the season for the band, parents, and I think the football fans.

Yeah go figure, all that with just a junior high education!! ;)

The Trash can Show from your band has been fun to watch and I am sure even more fun for the kids. It's like Vanilla Ice in mass. 2L2Q!!!:notworthy

That is the direction I wish our program would go for the Playoffs. But I would like them to go even more nuts...


~

bowiedawgs01
04-14-2009, 11:43 PM
OK I get it! We should be blaming the Russian and the French judges??!! :D:cool:

Texas:
UIL = Unimaginative Incompetance League

France:
LDDD = Ligue dénuée d'imagination d'incompétence

Russia:
Uлн = Unimaginative лига неправоспособности (I don't know how to pronounce it either :rolleyes:)

Just once I would love to see the band break out and just get wild!!


~

I think I see a six. :o

DragonBand06
04-14-2009, 11:55 PM
NO..... 9 years of being in a band made you believe that people honestly care about the halftime show as much as the game going on....... and made you believe that band was just as important as the football team/game

This is a football board, and to say anything other than that Allen has the best FOOTBALL BAND in the nation, is ill-conceived and hilarious.......

not a homer opinion, but a state fact.

7 years of playing in band HAS taught me that its fun, most people aren't nerds like the media suggests (although there are plenty), and its an easy way to get into the football games for free (until actually playin), but its also taught me that the competitions and ratings are a joke, and its NOT about who has the best sound or the straightest lines...... but about entertaining the crowd until the 2nd half kickoff..... simple as that

you can say "Allen is huge and loud but no quality", like all the other haters do, but come look at our trophy case and watch us in person, and then reconsider.lol. Take your homer pants off and try again NOOB.

33Blood
04-15-2009, 12:25 AM
A football band really only need to know how to play about 5 fight songs, the school song and The Horse. They should save all that other crap for their competitions and not take advantage of the captive audience at a football game.

ALLENFANDINGO5
04-15-2009, 06:13 AM
I will say that the Escadrille means as much if not more to their team and fans as any band in Texas. Ask the QB from Hightower how he liked being backed up at their end in the 4th quarter of the state championship. Goal line to goal line spelling out EAGLES is an awesome sight to see. I will admit there are other bands that have it together at halftime and are a joy to watch but when combined with what kind of an effect the Allen band can have from the stands as well on the field, we have to be at or near the top.

SWMHebron
04-15-2009, 07:43 AM
A football band really only need to know how to play about 5 fight songs, the school song and The Horse. They should save all that other crap for their competitions and not take advantage of the captive audience at a football game.

They have to work on the contest program all year. Not starting until after football season would give them enough time, especially for those that do football till December.

Red Raider Rick
04-15-2009, 08:00 AM
Best bands...really? You guys need some football!

SWMHebron
04-15-2009, 08:30 AM
Best bands...really? You guys need some football!

We have already been through worst stadium, best stadium, best announcer and now best band. Spring football doesn't start for about 2 weeks. What do you expect?

Red Raider Rick
04-15-2009, 08:58 AM
We have already been through worst stadium, best stadium, best announcer and now best band. Spring football doesn't start for about 2 weeks. What do you expect?

I dunno;)...maybe another 30 threads about Katy, Allen or the UIL???

My guess is best unis went down a long time ago...

How about discussing your teams biggest question mark neeing to be addressed in the Spring?

slcdragonfan
04-15-2009, 08:59 AM
I dunno;)...maybe another 30 threads about Katy, Allen or the UIL???

My guess is best unis went down a long time ago...

How about discussing your teams biggest question mark neeing to be addressed in the Spring?

Both have already been done. I guess we could do them again.

E-Vol-ution
04-15-2009, 09:03 AM
ho, hum......desperation has really set in.
Best stadium for turf burn coming up?

SWMHebron
04-15-2009, 09:04 AM
I dunno;)...maybe another 30 threads about Katy, Allen or the UIL???

My guess is best unis went down a long time ago...

How about discussing your teams biggest question mark neeing to be addressed in the Spring?

We have done UIL, privates in the UIL and the pending legislation concerning privates in the UIL. There have been lots of discussions within discussions about Katy, Allen, etc.

We have talked about the light poles and nesting hawks at Carroll and the federal protection of nesting hawks. This lead to a discussion of what the government should really be doing.

For strengths and weaknesses see the individual district discussions, or find the one about most anticipated preseason game.

Trust me, we are all beyond ready to see football people on the field.

11swingin'
04-15-2009, 11:40 AM
I would say best bands are

Garland
Hightower
Westfield* (also has a pretty good d.j. to fill in when the band isn't there):notworthy

smw358
04-15-2009, 11:53 AM
The best band..........? Last year during the Klein Oak vs. Spring game both bands went to competition and No Band played. It was the best game all year. You could actually hear the coaches giving instruction to the players. My vote: NO Band! :D

alleneagle4
04-15-2009, 12:53 PM
I would say best bands are

Garland
Hightower
Westfield* (also has a pretty good d.j. to fill in when the band isn't there):notworthy

:eek::confused::eek: Hightower's band is their tuba section........ THAT'S IT

definitely most annoying band i've ever seen/heard


if it actually helped their team out, or was a song.... i would understand
but it didn't contribute to anyone in anyway, their tubas just played random notes the whole game
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TexasRR
04-15-2009, 02:18 PM
:eek::confused::eek: Hightower's band is their tuba section........ THAT'S IT

definitely most annoying band i've ever seen/heard


if it actually helped their team out, or was a song.... i would understand
but it didn't contribute to anyone in anyway, their tubas just played random notes the whole game
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Boy, I gotta agree. Hightower's tubas at the championship game drove me nuts. Maybe that's their evil plan . . . to try to drive the opposing team crazy! It even annoys the heck out of me to hear them while watching the replay of the that game.

yankee
04-15-2009, 03:00 PM
NO..... 9 years of being in a band made you believe that people honestly care about the halftime show as much as the game going on....... and made you believe that band was just as important as the football team/game

This is a football board, and to say anything other than that Allen has the best FOOTBALL BAND in the nation, is ill-conceived and hilarious.......

not a homer opinion, but a state fact.

7 years of playing in band HAS taught me that its fun, most people aren't nerds like the media suggests (although there are plenty), and its an easy way to get into the football games for free (until actually playin), but its also taught me that the competitions and ratings are a joke, and its NOT about who has the best sound or the straightest lines...... but about entertaining the crowd until the 2nd half kickoff..... simple as that

you can say "Allen is huge and loud but no quality", like all the other haters do, but come look at our trophy case and watch us in person, and then reconsider.

the bolded part is so true.


the rest of your post...not so much.

SLCDad
04-15-2009, 05:15 PM
ALLEN EAGLE ESCADRILLE

Not only are they loud and proud in the stands, the halftime shows are spectacular - never boring.

(It's possible I am mildly biased)

Berkner is second

Interesting to watch a couple of times.

Way to loud and obnoxious for my taste.

eaglefan2000
04-15-2009, 07:33 PM
Interesting to watch a couple of times.

Way to loud and obnoxious for my taste.

Fair enough. On the other hand, you are not the target demographic.

TexasRR
04-15-2009, 10:24 PM
Fair enough. On the other hand, you are not the target demographic.

Oh, snap! You are smooth! :notworthy

CoplBandDad
04-18-2009, 12:55 PM
Since this question is "who has the best band at the FOOTBALL GAME" we'll ignore how well bands compete at UIL and BOA contests. I think the poster is asking which band is the best at contributing to the football atmosphere.

From the bands I've seen AT FOOTBALL GAMES I would rank them in this order:

1) Allen - Undeniably the most intimidating band for the opposing football team and band. I saw them at Texas stadium and was shocked at how loud they were across the field in an arena where sound normally gets lost in the echos. And I gotta say that given their size and "march all" mentality they actually do a pretty good half time show.

2) Flower Mound - Very much like a big college band, knows when to play all of the quick football cheer songs at key plays like you hear at college games.

3) FM Marcus - Similar to FM. Love the two drumline concept.

4) Hebron - They have a lot of fun in the stands, playing frequently, dancing and cheering for the team. Seems their drumline plays non-stop....


Comments on other bands I've seen.

LD Bell is a great performing arts band as evident by their many championships. They also put on a good spirit show in addition to their competitive show, which keeps the football fans attention. But I don't remember them playing any stand tunes other than the fight song.

Duncanville is a great playing band and really gets into the football game. With over 350 kids on the field they're fun to watch.

SL Carroll has a great big band (400??) that also plays more like a college football band, with little ditties focused on the game. But surprisingly for a band of this size they aren't very loud. I think they must hold back a bit.

Coppell (homer opinion) plays a lot of stand tunes, probably more than most other band. But the stand tunes are not necessarily football fan friendly (no ESPN themes here). They do know when to play loud when the opposing team has the ball. Coppell also plays one of the best arrangements of the Star Spangled Banner I've ever heard.

KOfb92
04-21-2009, 11:38 AM
The best band..........? Last year during the Klein Oak vs. Spring game both bands went to competition and No Band played. It was the best game all year. You could actually hear the coaches giving instruction to the players. My vote: NO Band! :D

^ There were also little in attedance :/

I'd say Westfield and the Woodlands. Klein Oak is above average.

alleneagle4
04-30-2009, 12:09 AM
Since this question is "who has the best band at the FOOTBALL GAME" we'll ignore how well bands compete at UIL and BOA contests. I think the poster is asking which band is the best at contributing to the football atmosphere.

From the bands I've seen AT FOOTBALL GAMES I would rank them in this order:

1) Allen - Undeniably the most intimidating band for the opposing football team and band. I saw them at Texas stadium and was shocked at how loud they were across the field in an arena where sound normally gets lost in the echos. And I gotta say that given their size and "march all" mentality they actually do a pretty good half time show.

2) Flower Mound - Very much like a big college band, knows when to play all of the quick football cheer songs at key plays like you hear at college games.

3) FM Marcus - Similar to FM. Love the two drumline concept.

4) Hebron - They have a lot of fun in the stands, playing frequently, dancing and cheering for the team. Seems their drumline plays non-stop....


Comments on other bands I've seen.

LD Bell is a great performing arts band as evident by their many championships. They also put on a good spirit show in addition to their competitive show, which keeps the football fans attention. But I don't remember them playing any stand tunes other than the fight song.

Duncanville is a great playing band and really gets into the football game. With over 350 kids on the field they're fun to watch.

SL Carroll has a great big band (400??) that also plays more like a college football band, with little ditties focused on the game. But surprisingly for a band of this size they aren't very loud. I think they must hold back a bit.

Coppell (homer opinion) plays a lot of stand tunes, probably more than most other band. But the stand tunes are not necessarily football fan friendly (no ESPN themes here). They do know when to play loud when the opposing team has the ball. Coppell also plays one of the best arrangements of the Star Spangled Banner I've ever heard.

Someone who understands the point and meaning of this thread!:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:no tworthy

Maroondog
05-18-2009, 03:15 PM
Gotta give Allen credit for being the largest by a wide margin and therefore the loudest, but they are far from being the best.

Plano West Wolf
05-18-2009, 09:25 PM
We have the best band!



















no, we don't, actually. :(

alleneagle4
05-18-2009, 10:01 PM
Gotta give Allen credit for being the largest by a wide margin and therefore the loudest, but they are far from being the best.


obviously since we didnt win state in band

but they are the best FOOTBALL band, which is the title of this thread

Maroondog
05-19-2009, 10:23 AM
obviously since we didnt win state in band

but they are the best FOOTBALL band, which is the title of this thread

Not by a long shot. Lots of others with better marching, playing, etc. Already gave due credit for the noise and size.

alleneagle4
05-19-2009, 05:21 PM
Not by a long shot. Lots of others with better marching, playing, etc. Already gave due credit for the noise and size.


once again...... marching has absolutely nothing to do w/ football...... :confused:
sound quality is not a huge deal w/ football games

the only thing that matters football wise is getting the team pumped.... which they definitely do, being loud.... the LOUDEST, and entertaining the crowd..... absolutely they do

and a little extra would be causing a false start every other game..... which they do :D

chhspantherfan
05-19-2009, 05:24 PM
Ours would rather be in Indy:rolleyes::mad:

alleneagle4
05-19-2009, 08:23 PM
Ours would rather be in Indy:rolleyes::mad:


our's would rather be in houston..............

oh wait, we we're.

chhspantherfan
05-19-2009, 10:02 PM
our's would rather be in houston..............

oh wait, we we're.

I am still in denial about the whole thing. It was an incredible gaff, and then the excuse of "well, we scheduled the trip months ago." ........Huh? Oh yeah, I remember now, football season was just thrown out there at the last minute. :rolleyes:

alleneagle4
05-20-2009, 12:28 AM
I am still in denial about the whole thing. It was an incredible gaff, and then the excuse of "well, we scheduled the trip months ago." ........Huh? Oh yeah, I remember now, football season was just thrown out there at the last minute. :rolleyes:

:confused::confused::confused:

not sure what you're talking about exactly...... BUT

when we were at UIL Band Area finals, and found out we missed going to State by 2 places...... some nerds who actually cared about it were saying upset, and a few girls were actually crying..... and when Pennington (Head Director) walked past me, I looked at him and said loudly "It's alright guys, you played great! And besides, Houston will be much more fun than San Antonio! I Promise!" he smiled and agreed.

...... that was in October

Maroondog
05-20-2009, 10:00 AM
once again...... marching has absolutely nothing to do w/ football...... :confused:
sound quality is not a huge deal w/ football games

the only thing that matters football wise is getting the team pumped.... which they definitely do, being loud.... the LOUDEST, and entertaining the crowd..... absolutely they do

and a little extra would be causing a false start every other game..... which they do :D

If loud is your criteria, then by all means the numbers will make sure that happens. If marching and sound quality do not matter, then as a BAND, they would be defined as lousy.
So, the thread title should have been, Who has the loudest band at the football games.

And, if the team is listening to the BAND to get "pumped", the coaching staff would not be doing its job.

Oh, and by rule, causing the opponent to false start CAN be penalized even though it's rarely enforced.

alleneagle4
05-20-2009, 05:24 PM
If loud is your criteria, then by all means the numbers will make sure that happens. If marching and sound quality do not matter, then as a BAND, they would be defined as lousy.
So, the thread title should have been, Who has the loudest band at the football games.

And, if the team is listening to the BAND to get "pumped", the coaching staff would not be doing its job.

Oh, and by rule, causing the opponent to false start CAN be penalized even though it's rarely enforced.

it CAN be penalized, but it never is because they would be disgraced by the WORLD because it's not a legit penalty

yea, the coaching staff definitely doesn't do their job.... Westerberg was voted coach of the year for NO reason what so ever...... go figure :rolleyes:

and yes..... that should have been the title...... so we WIN! :cool:

Maroondog
05-21-2009, 10:25 AM
it CAN be penalized, but it never is because they would be disgraced by the WORLD because it's not a legit penalty

yea, the coaching staff definitely doesn't do their job.... Westerberg was voted coach of the year for NO reason what so ever...... go figure :rolleyes:

and yes..... that should have been the title...... so we WIN! :cool:

I never said or implied that. That's why I know the band doesn't pump up the team. The coaches have them ready to go.

chhspantherfan
05-23-2009, 09:05 AM
:confused::confused::confused:

not sure what you're talking about exactly...... BUT

when we were at UIL Band Area finals, and found out we missed going to State by 2 places...... some nerds who actually cared about it were saying upset, and a few girls were actually crying..... and when Pennington (Head Director) walked past me, I looked at him and said loudly "It's alright guys, you played great! And besides, Houston will be much more fun than San Antonio! I Promise!" he smiled and agreed.

...... that was in October

Someone from our school scheduled a band trip to Indy for a competition on football bi-district weekend. so, there we were in Texas Stadium, SLC on the other side, a 1 loss season (Trinity 35-28), and a very confident team that emerges from the tunnel to ................No band!!!!:eek:

Shocked wasn't even the word, I remembered Trinty's band being stuck in traffic one year. So, it wasn't until word filtered around that many in the crowd even knew that in our bigest moment of the season, an integral part of HS football wasn't even present BY DESIGN. :mad:

Now, does my post make sense?

clc
05-24-2009, 09:13 AM
So...the band IS important to the football team at games? They actually enjoy the fight song being played for them as they take the field or when they score?

Good news! (Yes...please read the above with a hint of sarcasm).

From some of the posters on this message board you would think that most people regard the band as being a PITA at games.

I have always said that a football game would be a very boring thing if there were no band to create excitement in the stands and for the team.

It would be like watching a movie without a soundtrack...boring. Most people do not realize how music can create an atmosphere.

Wypirates03
05-24-2009, 04:23 PM
The only thing I wish they would acually enforce is the amount of time it takes a band to get on/off the field. Taking more than 15 minutes is rediculous.

bryanvikings
05-27-2009, 10:06 PM
From the district we play in...

1. Belton-very loud , texas fight as their fight song
2. A&M Consolidated- they play eye of the tiger while the team runs through the big inflatable tiger
3. Killeen Shoemaker-kind of small but loud
and the rest...

chhspantherfan
05-27-2009, 11:23 PM
So...the band IS important to the football team at games? They actually enjoy the fight song being played for them as they take the field or when they score?

Good news! (Yes...please read the above with a hint of sarcasm).

From some of the posters on this message board you would think that most people regard the band as being a PITA at games.

I have always said that a football game would be a very boring thing if there were no band to create excitement in the stands and for the team.

It would be like watching a movie without a soundtrack...boring. Most people do not realize how music can create an atmosphere.


yuo are absolutely correct, the band is critical to the entire experience that is high school football. My hope is that our snafu last year will inspire the band to be a bigger part of the season and create more atmosphere !!!!

trojanbacker
05-28-2009, 05:03 PM
I know bands are an important part of the experience, but honestly, I tend to tune them out and just watch the game. Halftime, I generally head downstairs to stand around and wait for the game to begin. My only complaint is that many of the halftime shows run over their alloted time.

chhspantherfan
05-29-2009, 10:13 AM
I know bands are an important part of the experience, but honestly, I tend to tune them out and just watch the game. Halftime, I generally head downstairs to stand around and wait for the game to begin. My only complaint is that many of the halftime shows run over their alloted time.

you would notice if they were not there though. Remember first half TS when Trojan band was stuck in traffic?

bleedblue
07-15-2009, 03:56 PM
Someone needs too tell me why they think L.D. Bell is the best band? Their show this year was the most boring show I have ever seen. If I want too hear symphonic music I'll wait until concert season in the spring, it doesn't belong on a football field.

What is the purpose of a Marching band, they are too entertain fans in the stands and at halftime, not put them too sleep.

Couldn't have said it better myself! And this is coming from a Bell grad! Bell's band is only considered good because of its out of control production values and budget! They spend far more on their band than other schools and their shows are all about the special effects and props rather than the music and marching.

Throw that in with the fact that Bell's band spends more time out of the stands than in the stands during the game I wouldn't even call them a high school band! They are a disgrace to the school! They aren't even playing in the stands during the whole 2nd or 3rd quarter and part of the 4th, while the other team's band is in the stands the whole game pretty much!

trojanbacker
07-21-2009, 07:32 PM
nm

wildcat86
07-22-2009, 05:42 AM
The best bands I heard last year during Stony Point's playoff run were; The Woodlands they jammed, I couldn't believe it myself and Skyline they were small but they played very loud!

bob1122
08-01-2009, 03:10 PM
I think it was Allen. It was a playoff game vs Euless Trinty at Tx Stadium last season. Well whoever ET was playing, their band lined up right on the opposite side of the 50 of where the tunnels are. and 1. Prevented ET players from running all the way down the field. Then 2. They played non-stop during the haka.

It was greatness seeing the ET fans' reactions.

Bandnerd1983
08-02-2009, 10:11 AM
I think it was Allen. It was a playoff game vs Euless Trinty at Tx Stadium last season. Well whoever ET was playing, their band lined up right on the opposite side of the 50 of where the tunnels are. and 1. Prevented ET players from running all the way down the field. Then 2. They played non-stop during the haka.

It was greatness seeing the ET fans' reactions.

It was the Plano band.

Wypirates03
08-02-2009, 01:06 PM
I think it was Allen. It was a playoff game vs Euless Trinty at Tx Stadium last season. Well whoever ET was playing, their band lined up right on the opposite side of the 50 of where the tunnels are. and 1. Prevented ET players from running all the way down the field. Then 2. They played non-stop during the haka.

It was greatness seeing the ET fans' reactions.

I agree. While I'm a fan of the HAKA, some of the fans posts on this board were ridiculously funny.

SWMHebron
08-02-2009, 04:40 PM
I am still in denial about the whole thing. It was an incredible gaff, and then the excuse of "well, we scheduled the trip months ago." ........Huh? Oh yeah, I remember now, football season was just thrown out there at the last minute. :rolleyes:

Every year, at the pre-tryout drill team meeting in the spring, the director is explicit that attendance is expected at every football game, regular season and playoffs. This is Hebron. You can expect to have at least a couple of post season games.

Every year, somebody's mom is in a twist because of Thanksgiving plans. You can go wherever you want for Thanksgiving, but they just don't get the "but if there is a game on Saturday you are expected to be there."

b756561
08-02-2009, 04:48 PM
once again...... marching has absolutely nothing to do w/ football...... :confused:
sound quality is not a huge deal w/ football games

the only thing that matters football wise is getting the team pumped.... which they definitely do, being loud.... the LOUDEST, and entertaining the crowd..... absolutely they do

and a little extra would be causing a false start every other game..... which they do :D

Or even better, causing an early snap deep in your opponents territory on third down, forcing them to punt, late in the game, with your team winning. Especially sweet if it takes place in the state championship game. :D

CyFallsMom
08-12-2009, 11:35 AM
Speaking of bands....

This is probably something I shouldn't admit but mark it down to a moment of weakness.:rolleyes:

I have had this fight song in my head for some time now and I have even caught myself humming it. I couldn't figure out whose it was but I knew it was a fight song. Well, I get out the old Cy Falls 2006 season DVD and all of a sudden, I hear a snippet of the song - is our band playing that song? No....it is the KATY fight song:eek:. It's stuck in my head and I can't get it out!! LOL

It is a catchy tune but I think it's because they play it so much during a game that it's almost like water torture to the other team's fans:p

Oh and the other day, there was a commercial on TV of a Reagan speech and he had music playing in the background. It was the Cy Falls Alma Mater - which is also featured at the end of the movie "Slap Shot". We must have stolen it from somewhere LOL.

tjw
08-12-2009, 01:48 PM
Or even better, causing an early snap deep in your opponents territory on third down, forcing them to punt, late in the game, with your team winning. Especially sweet if it takes place in the state championship game. :D

:notworthy:notworthy

slorch
08-16-2009, 04:29 PM
Not freaking Katy.

They play one stupid song

OVER&OVER&OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

saw them get smoked at TWHS last season, and they STILL freaking played that song every 10 seconds.

Makes you feel good about OU's band playing Boomer Schooner all the time...;):rolleyes::Music

trojanbacker
08-17-2009, 05:30 PM
I can't remember the last time I paid any attention to a band at the game. I know it's out there, but it's just background noise.

chhspantherfan
08-17-2009, 06:25 PM
I can't remember the last time I paid any attention to a band at the game. I know it's out there, but it's just background noise.

:ninja: but if it wasn't there, you sure would miss it !!!:mad:

SkyHighSkyline
08-17-2009, 11:40 PM
My Homer Pick; The proof is in the pudding. Watch the video and see.

http://www.prepticket.com/video/market/national/school/dallas--skyline--texas--hs/id/823292:Video:78638

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78 Spartan
08-18-2009, 09:55 AM
As huge a school as Skyline is, I was expecting a much larger band.

Allstarkaw
08-18-2009, 11:22 AM
As Far As Having The WORST- Humble


Best I've Seen- Port Aurthur

SkyHighSkyline
08-18-2009, 11:26 AM
As huge a school as Skyline is, I was expecting a much larger band.
The size of the band doesn't matter, unless you're trying to pull off some ridiculous formation on the field during halftime. I think what matters more is what I like to call the "Jam Factor." Simply put, does the band have the ability to get fans, on either side, up to their feet, snapping their fingers, and/or stomping their feet.

The size of the band is just an indication of how many students wanted to play an instrument at any given school. It's what you do with that talent that matters.

eaglefan2000
08-18-2009, 12:27 PM
The size of the band doesn't matter, unless you're trying to pull off some ridiculous formation on the field during halftime. I think what matters more is what I like to call the "Jam Factor." Simply put, does the band have the ability to get fans, on either side, up to their feet, snapping their fingers, and/or stomping their feet.

The size of the band is just an indication of how many students wanted to play an instrument at any given school. It's what you do with that talent that matters.

I agree with your assessment of what is important. And the best band at a football game is...

ALLEN

CyFallsMom
08-18-2009, 05:57 PM
Not freaking Katy.

They play one stupid song

OVER&OVER&OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

saw them get smoked at TWHS last season, and they STILL freaking played that song every 10 seconds.

Makes you feel good about OU's band playing Boomer Schooner all the time...;):rolleyes::Music

OMG - And I know what that is - the one that has like 5 notes and is horrible. It doesn't do anything for their band at all but I see how it can irritate the bloody he!! out of an opponent. They are a loud band but when my kids were in band - we always won the contests - they went home early:). They are a football band, not a contest band. Ours was both. Just ask Raffield - I have video of him jumping on the bandstand to thank the band for being the 12th man!!!

DragonFan0316
08-18-2009, 06:00 PM
Allen... There I said it. Wasn't to bad. I can still breathe and hold down food.

eaglefan2000
08-18-2009, 06:54 PM
Allen... There I said it. Wasn't too bad. I can still breathe and hold down food.

:notworthy:notworthy You all still have more trophies. :notworthy:notworthy

Point Made...
08-27-2009, 10:13 PM
In 16-5A...Cedar Park Timberwolves...NO DOUBT.

WestlakeTech
08-30-2009, 04:03 PM
i don't know, but it's not us....:p

CoplBandDad
10-17-2009, 11:33 AM
I'm changing my vote.

Hebron Band has the best football supporting band I've seen. They are into the game, play after every first down or big play, know WHEN to play and when NOT to play, and as someone said are truly a 12th man on the field for their team. Their in the stands repertoire is straignt from a big time college band and they add a lot of excitement to the game.

Great job at the Coppell game last night!

bigdaddydog
10-24-2009, 06:47 PM
Allen... There I said it. Wasn't to bad. I can still breathe and hold down food.

You are a brave and courageous Dragon. I applaud your choice. :notworthy

I love all the bands and salute those that know when to play and when not to play. The bands that embody the idea of being the 12th man. From the rockin beats/dancing of Skyline, To the Trash Can entertainment of Carroll, and the Energy/timing of Hebron.

My Homer favorite is the Allen Escadrille. Here is a treat I just uploaded from the Plano game.

March Grandioso Video - with dedication to farmerfan... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lByTtesHxzA):D Be Sure and Crank It Up!!


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PWildCat
10-25-2009, 06:21 PM
You are a brave and courageous Dragon. I applaud your choice. :notworthy

I love all the bands and salute those that know when to play and when not to play. The bands that embody the idea of being the 12th man. From the rockin beats/dancing of Skyline, To the Trash Can entertainment of Carroll, and the Energy/timing of Hebron.

My Homer favorite is the Allen Escadrille. Here is a treat I just uploaded from the Plano game.

March Grandioso Video - with dedication to farmerfan... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lByTtesHxzA):D Be Sure and Crank It Up!!


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I think there is one tuba off key. Nothing against the Allen Escadrille, but I prefer the Plano band. :)

PWildCat
10-25-2009, 06:23 PM
That was strange. After I posted my reply a guy came over the computer and said "Congratulations. You won!" What did I win?:eek:

trojanbacker
10-26-2009, 02:45 PM
They all seem pretty much the same to me. It's a part of the game but not one that does much for me. I'm glad they're there, but I can take or leave most of the shows.

And, I can no longer stand hearing either March Grandioso or Hey Baby because every band in the state is evidently required by law to play it.

Originality anyone?

bigdaddydog
10-27-2009, 10:30 PM
They all seem pretty much the same to me. It's a part of the game but not one that does much for me. I'm glad they're there, but I can take or leave most of the shows.

And, I can no longer stand hearing either March Grandioso or Hey Baby because every band in the state is evidently required by law to play it.

Originality anyone?

I hear the Collyville Heritage is working on a version of Butterfly Kisses for the playoffs!! :D Er wait, maybe that was LD Bell...


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bigdaddydog
10-27-2009, 10:33 PM
I think there is one tuba off key. Nothing against the Allen Escadrille, but I prefer the Plano band. :)

Of course you do and if anyone over at Plano would go to the trouble to post them playing it maybe you could make that case or if you guys played to the Home crowd when you where visitors we might all be able to appreciate the Wildcat Band...:rolleyes:

Cheers

marcusdrillmom
10-31-2009, 10:22 AM
They all seem pretty much the same to me. It's a part of the game but not one that does much for me. I'm glad they're there, but I can take or leave most of the shows.

And, I can no longer stand hearing either March Grandioso or Hey Baby because every band in the state is evidently required by law to play it.

Originality anyone?


I wish our band would play Hey Baby, we have an awesome half time show but stand music selection not as great. I just don't think I Wanna Hold Your Hand is very intimidating when the other team is on offense.....

farmerfan
10-31-2009, 09:21 PM
I wish our band would play Hey Baby, we have an awesome half time show but stand music selection not as great. I just don't think I Wanna Hold Your Hand is very intimidating when the other team is on offense.....

Its a great beat and a great song but I hear what you are saying. THe halftime show freaked me out though, those dang fake trees are crazy. I still think you all have a dang good band and are right up there with the Allen band for involvement in a game. Heard some Journey too last night but did not hear Holiday which has become a mainstay at most Marcus games I have seen

farmerfan
10-31-2009, 09:24 PM
You are a brave and courageous Dragon. I applaud your choice. :notworthy

I love all the bands and salute those that know when to play and when not to play. The bands that embody the idea of being the 12th man. From the rockin beats/dancing of Skyline, To the Trash Can entertainment of Carroll, and the Energy/timing of Hebron.

My Homer favorite is the Allen Escadrille. Here is a treat I just uploaded from the Plano game.

March Grandioso Video - with dedication to farmerfan... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lByTtesHxzA):D Be Sure and Crank It Up!!


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Thank you sir :notworthy

marcusdrillmom
11-01-2009, 09:47 AM
Its a great beat and a great song but I hear what you are saying. THe halftime show freaked me out though, those dang fake trees are crazy. I still think you all have a dang good band and are right up there with the Allen band for involvement in a game. Heard some Journey too last night but did not hear Holiday which has become a mainstay at most Marcus games I have seen

I loved the Journey it is from a drill team number earlier in the season! I too missed Holiday not sure why they didn't play it this week.

Those trees are crazy and they hold on the props/flags.. The halftime show is fab! The band does a pretty good job in the stands... Just know we will miss them should we make the playoffs.

JagsMom08-12
11-02-2009, 04:35 PM
Loved the Marcus show from the back on Friday and from the front on Saturday in Duncanville, too awesome to catch everything in one sitting. Should have videotaped it watch again. Good luck in the Nationals.

jimmycrackcorn
11-06-2009, 10:30 AM
The Woodlands has the best band. They play constantly.

Songdog
12-05-2009, 10:25 PM
Loved the Marcus show from the back on Friday and from the front on Saturday in Duncanville, too awesome to catch everything in one sitting. Should have videotaped it watch again. Good luck in the Nationals.

As competition bands go, LD Bell and Marcus have proven to be the best competition bands in the state. However, after following the competitions the last show I want to see in the play-offs is another full blown show at half time. Many of the band kids are so tired by the time the playoffs start that they are ready for football to end so they can move onto sectionals and the concert season.

Although, it wasn't the school I support, the best show I saw during a football game so far was Southlake's half time show in Cowboy stadium when they played Allen. Instead of a pit, they brought metal trash cans. They brought EVERYONE onto the field and appeared to be having a really GREAT TIME. It was impressive, fun, and they really got the crowd into it. Obviously, it wasn't their canned competition show, but that's what made it so good. My humble opinion. As far as play-by-play bands, Katy seems to be a lot more in sync with what is going on during play than the metroplex bands I've seen.

ktCarl
12-11-2009, 10:59 PM
Too bad Willowridge doesn't make deep playoff runs. I haven't seen a better band than theirs.

OMG its Clifton
12-11-2009, 11:53 PM
Tyler John Tyler he a pretty tight band

etizzle
01-06-2010, 05:40 AM
Cy-Falls and Cy-Woods are the best football bands in 15-5a
Also not bad competition bands either!

Langham Creek reminds me a lot of LD Bell. Gross.

I remember last year at the Skyline game the band was laughing at the Skyline band because of how bad their sound quality was. Not to mention the drum majors were basically pole dancing on their maces

da hawaiian
04-26-2010, 02:29 PM
There are show bands (Bell) and then there are football bands, that play on cue, play when the opposing team has the ball and double the volume on goal line stands. Give the prize to the Allen

slcdragonfan
04-26-2010, 02:46 PM
There are show bands (Bell) and then there are football bands, that play on cue, play when the opposing team has the ball and double the volume on goal line stands. Give the prize to the Allen

I see what you are doing. ;)

da hawaiian
04-26-2010, 02:53 PM
I see what you are doing. ;)

Then wait till I'm done :p

da hawaiian
05-12-2010, 01:40 AM
One answer


Allen

Trojanalum693
05-12-2010, 10:46 PM
No way! They are just so dang big. Marcus/Bell's bands are better.

da hawaiian
05-13-2010, 04:02 AM
My criterea is simple. Best football band is the band that creates the most intimidating atmosphere. 600 pieces blasting Grandioso when you're on the goal line is as distracting as it gets

Trojanalum693
05-13-2010, 06:13 PM
My criterea is simple. Best football band is the band that creates the most intimidating atmosphere. 600 pieces blasting Grandioso when you're on the goal line is as distracting as it gets

true. You are definitely right about that.

da hawaiian
05-14-2010, 12:22 AM
I knew you'd remember

Trojanalum693
05-14-2010, 04:15 AM
I remember it all too well.

da hawaiian
05-14-2010, 01:41 PM
It was intimidating even for the fans

Trojanalum693
05-16-2010, 09:09 PM
It was not only intimidating for us players but annoying as well.

da hawaiian
05-16-2010, 11:28 PM
:notworthy

But admit it. You were envious huh?

Trojanalum693
05-17-2010, 04:10 PM
A little bit. But I also think that a band shouldn't be allowed to do that.

bigdaddydog
08-12-2010, 03:51 AM
A little bit. But I also think that a band shouldn't be allowed to do that.

Slippery slope. What's next? Maybe we should stop kickoffs that are recieved in the endzone from being returned? Let's just spot them at the 20. ;):D

Seriosly I'm on the fence with College bands not allowed to play during on the field action. But watching college ball seems a bit boring without the band playing...


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Trojanalum693
08-13-2010, 08:17 PM
Slippery slope. What's next? Maybe we should stop kickoffs that are recieved in the endzone from being returned? Let's just spot them at the 20. ;):D

Seriosly I'm on the fence with College bands not allowed to play during on the field action. But watching college ball seems a bit boring without the band playing...


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If the band is playing an actual song it is ok. But when they just blare a random note as loud as they can that is uncalled for IMO.