2005 Season Awards & All-Texas Teams

[ktchamp97]

Well after hours and hours of research, bickering, and deliberation, we have finally settled (we think ;)) on our 2005 Season Awards and All-Texas teams.

Take a look and let us know what you think...as long as you agree (kidding).

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[DragonBand06]

Well after hours and hours of research, bickering, and deliberation, we have finally settled (we think ;)) on our 2005 Season Awards and All-Texas teams.

Take a look and let us know what you think...as long as you agree (kidding).

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Very nice! DOn't know some a lot of those players, but the ones I do know look fairly accurate (I am a bit biased :) ). Great job!

[lonny23]

Well after hours and hours of research, bickering, and deliberation, we have finally settled (we think ;)) on our 2005 Season Awards and All-Texas teams.

Take a look and let us know what you think...as long as you agree (kidding).

2005 5A Texas Football.com Season Awards & All-Texas Teams (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/seasonawards.htm)

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I have a question. You have the 2 title-winning coaches as coach of the year and 1 finalist as honorable mention. The other honorable mention played the D2 champs tough in the quarterfinals.

When I look at the all-state teams, I see plenty of names for Katy, SLC, and Trinity. I only see 2 names for Judson and 1 for Plano. I won't argue the merits of that.

3 coaches played with good talent and 2 others didn't have as much top-end talent. Doesn't the guys who coached with less talent deserve more credit and doesn't the coach with less talent that went further in the playoffs deserve more credit than the coach that lost in the quarterfinals?

If nothing else, why subject yourself to the harassment from Plano fans for CHOOSING Brence and my harrassment for NOT CHOOSING Rackley!:D

[ktchamp97]

I have a question. You have the 2 title-winning coaches as coach of the year and 1 finalist as honorable mention. The other honorable mention played the D2 champs tough in the quarterfinals.

When I look at the all-state teams, I see plenty of names for Katy, SLC, and Trinity. I only see 1 name for Judson and 1 for Plano. I won't argue the merits of that.

3 coaches played with good talent and 2 others didn't have as much top-end talent. Doesn't the guys who coached with less talent deserve more credit and doesn't the coach with less talent that went further in the playoffs deserve more credit than the coach that lost in the quarterfinals?

If nothing else, why subject yourself to the harassment from Plano fans for CHOOSING Brence and my harrassment for NOT CHOOSING Rackley!:D

Y'all had 2 guys, btw...Carter and Harp. :D

Actually, you present a fine case for Coach Rackley and, come to think of it, he deserves to be on there. What do you think of the rest of it?

[t00 playa]

well im satisfied with the recognition that North Shore received... should be another solid region contender next year... plenty of returnees....

how close was JR RB Chris Gainious to making the all juniors list?

:eek:

[KT2000]

He would have been the next RB selected. Ganious is awesome.

[toonman]

Good job guys. This is such a difficult task because there as so many deserving players. Of the players names I know - they warrant their inclusion.

[Favpack]

Great job guys! Quick note - you've got Cody Williams, dl from Longview, as both 2nd and 3rd team - check your notes there.

[lonny23]

Y'all had 2 guys, btw...Carter and Harp. :D

Actually, you present a fine case for Coach Rackley and, come to think of it, he deserves to be on there. What do you think of the rest of it?
I'm OK with it. I can't really say much since I didn't get to see any games. The list looks fine. I should get the Judson-Trinity tape in the mail sometime before the end of the year.

[ktchamp97]

Great job guys! Quick note - you've got Cody Williams, dl from Longview, as both 2nd and 3rd team - check your notes there.

No, he's just that good!

Good eye...thanks favpack.

[lonny23]

Y'all had 2 guys, btw...Carter and Harp. :D

Actually, you present a fine case for Coach Rackley and, come to think of it, he deserves to be on there. What do you think of the rest of it?
Thanks. I was lobbying for Rackley a few weeks ago. Anybody that gets to the title game after almost missing the playoffs deserves it.

[ktchamp97]

I agree. He did a great job holding the team together when they easily could've given up. I love the man's enthusiasm...how could you not give your all for a guy like that?

[dragonfootballfan]

I think that Bradley Stephens should have been the Junior MVP. He made first team, while Claybon's only showing was for Junior team selection.

[svcenter53]

Well after hours and hours of research, bickering, and deliberation, we have finally settled (we think ;)) on our 2005 Season Awards and All-Texas teams.

Take a look and let us know what you think...as long as you agree (kidding).

2005 5A Texas Football.com Season Awards & All-Texas Teams (http://www.5atexasfootball.com/seasonawards.htm)

You may have to hit shift+refresh to get the updated page.


Im not arguing the fact that you have a SV person on the list but if you wanna talk about special teams MVP i think you shouldve considered Andrew Sendejo he singal handedly dominated special teams for SV over 3/4 of the kickoffs were out of the endzone by ALOT!! and he was the punt and kickoff return leader breaking at least 3 tackles on every return im not arguing your decisions i just think maybe you shoudlve studyied harder if you think cody beyer was the specialist......he is damn good though.

[implacable44]

True team greatness -- only one Converse Judson name on the board as 3rd team all-state and one player as all junior. For a team that made it to State and proved all the doubters wrong. Not bad - True team greatness and a reflection of the tradition of excellence that exists at Judson.

[dragonfootballfan]

Thanks. I was lobbying for Rackley a few weeks ago. Anybody that gets to the title game after almost missing the playoffs deserves it.
Was he the coach when the team almost missed the playoffs?

[dragonsdaddy]

seems so much more well thought out and accurate than the ap mess. i would have found a spot for the plano kicker. the plano freshman might also have been included in a fairly exclusive frosh mvp(jk).

[KT2000]

SVcenter,

Sendejo was definitely considered for that one along with Szymanski from A&M Consolidated of course. A quote from Larry Hill actually put me over the top as far as Beyer was concerned. He told the San Antonio Express News earlier on in the playoffs that he'd never had a player single handedly impact field position like Beyer.

A ton of players could have gotten that award and been deserving, but of course you ultimately have to go with one. We try and recognize as many as we can with our awards because we realize there are many deserving players out there. It's dang near impossible to make an awards list for Texas without any question marks or misses. There's a ton of players that go unnoticed due to many facts, and we try and recognize as many as we can without getting ridiculous.

[TIGER]

KT2000 How can the kid Stephens from South Texas not get the Junior MVP award? What he did in 9 regular season games + 1 playoff game was absolutely incredible. His stats in a 10 game comparison rank as one of the Nations best for RB's.

[KT2000]

Again, we were trying to recognize as many players who had outstanding years as we could. Stephens is on 1st team all-texas and is the South Texas MVP, so he didn't get completely shafted.

We felt like Claybon's 3,000 yard passing performance as a first year starter was pretty darn impressive as well. He and the offense had to help elevate Lufkin in the playoffs when the defensive consistency fell off. I don't think Reggie McNeal even put up the numbers Claybon did as a junior. Claybon got two rounds further in the playoffs also.

[TIGER]

Thanks for the reply. Sounds like a great kid!

[Dargason]

i would have found a spot for the plano kicker.Agreed! Hey, there's no kicker listed for 3rd team. How about Sheffield?

[ktchamp97]

Agreed! Hey, there's no kicker listed for 3rd team.

Hey, there is now!

[TrojanHorse03]

I was just wondering did you guys classify Laderrick Handy as a fullback or a running back? Just curious as he could fall into either category.

[KT2000]

I considered him to be both, but went with Chris Ivory as the best FB instead. It's hard to give fullbacks the recognition they deserve these days because hardly anyone uses them any more.

[Mr. Buddy Garrity]

Robert Joseph only 3rd team. thats funny.


First team ALL-STATE this morning! :)

[SeguinMatadors]

You guys blew the AP all state team out of the water. Good job.

[bullrock]

What are you KT boys going to do when you grow up? This forum is a perfect place to get resources for your publication. When will you put some of this information to better use? You know, rival Dave Cambell with a book only on high school football and actually earn some money doing it? You have built a great network by which to get information from any district in the state. I'm sure DC uses this website to mine all the information he can for his book. He just doesn't seem to get it all right.

[dragonfan020405]

I think its fine ... I may be a tad bias but I guess it is okay to be bias about your home team. IDK correct me if i'm wrong.


DragonFan020405

[SLC13]

I considered him to be both, but went with Chris Ivory as the best FB instead. It's hard to give fullbacks the recognition they deserve these days because hardly anyone uses them any more.
Chris Ivory is great, but I think I would lean towards the FB that led the way for a 3000 yd runner.......plus you throw in Handy's pass receiving skills and I'd say he had a clear edge over Ivory.

[lonny23]

True team greatness -- only one Converse Judson name on the board as 3rd team all-state and one player as all junior. For a team that made it to State and proved all the doubters wrong. Not bad - True team greatness and a reflection of the tradition of excellence that exists at Judson.
That's why I lobbied for Coach Rackley. Even then, it's the whole staff and not just him.

[lonny23]

Was he the coach when the team almost missed the playoffs?
Yes, he was. Pulling it all together when it looked grim was great.

[lonny23]

What are you KT boys going to do when you grow up? This forum is a perfect place to get resources for your publication. When will you put some of this information to better use? You know, rival Dave Cambell with a book only on high school football and actually earn some money doing it? You have built a great network by which to get information from any district in the state. I'm sure DC uses this website to mine all the information he can for his book. He just doesn't seem to get it all right.
They did charge for a Football Guide in 2004, but I never saw it in stores. It was free in 2005, so at least I got my money's worth!:p

[svcenter53]

SVcenter,

Sendejo was definitely considered for that one along with Szymanski from A&M Consolidated of course. A quote from Larry Hill actually put me over the top as far as Beyer was concerned. He told the San Antonio Express News earlier on in the playoffs that he'd never had a player single handedly impact field position like Beyer.

A ton of players could have gotten that award and been deserving, but of course you ultimately have to go with one. We try and recognize as many as we can with our awards because we realize there are many deserving players out there. It's dang near impossible to make an awards list for Texas without any question marks or misses. There's a ton of players that go unnoticed due to many facts, and we try and recognize as many as we can without getting ridiculous.


Sorry buddy go back and read that newspaper again because that qoute was about sendejo...first thing beyer didnt even return kicks....he did punt but he didnt do near as much for special teams as sendejo did...but this argument is dead i just thought id chip in my 2 cents

[dragonfootballfan]

Yes, he was. Pulling it all together when it looked grim was great.
Ok so Judson was ranked high to start the year (top ten). That means that the coach had the talent. They then start the season 4-4, one of the reasons for their slow start is probably because of poor coaching. They then rebound and win their next 6 games and ultimately finish 10-5 without a championship. This is somehow a better coaching job than somebody who either lost only one or zero games and won a championship. Giving Judson's coach the award is like giving man of the year to a guy that was supposed to accomplish great things, but fell into drugs, then reformed himself and fell just short of his goal rather than giving the award to the guy that did all the right things and accomplished his goals.

[KT2000]

My mistaken then, center.

Bullrock, if you can hook us up with some business tycoon looking to dump some $ into HS football then let 'em know where they can find us. ;)

The next step for the site outside of getting bigger/better resource wise is to secure some form of advertising. That would help fund things like printing the Gridiron Guide or getting 5A Texas Football.com shirts on sale.

[SeguinMatadors]

My mistaken then, center.

Bullrock, if you can hook us up with some business tycoon looking to dump some $ into HS football then let 'em know where they can find us. ;)

The next step for the site outside of getting bigger/better resource wise is to secure some form of advertising. That would help fund things like printing the Gridiron Guide or getting 5A Texas Football.com shirts on sale.

I would like to buy a personal AD.:cool:

[dragons08]

I would like to buy a personal AD.:cool:
id like to buy one making fun of seguin then

[KT2000]

Seguin, something tells me I wouldn't want to see your "personal ad".

:D

[dragonsdaddy]

Seguin, something tells me I wouldn't want to see your "personal ad".

:D
i second that opinion. hey, you could turn this into a money making deal by threatening to put certain ads up unless everyone kicks in a buck or 2.

[dragons08]

Seguin, something tells me I wouldn't want to see your "personal ad".

:D
tell me about it, the whole website would crash

[ACM Dad]

Making those pics is a tough job in this state.

One thing I'd like to throw out there. Those coach of the year spots, really ought to be looked at more towards those coaches that took teams deep into the playoffs that no one gave much of a chance.

To me, that's the sign of at least the runnerups in that category.

[Eaglewatcher]

Just one quick question for the moderators, and if it has been asked before forgive me. I noticed that you or the AP all state selections seem to make no distinction between cornerbacks and safeties. While they are I admit, some similarities in responsibility, there are also very different in the type of athlete that makes a good corner and one that will make a good safety. A safetie's stats will usually have more tackles and less interceptions and pass breakups as compared to a corner, while a corner will seldon have as many tackles as a good safety. It looks like the AP all state defensive backs weighed heavily on number of interceptions (at least on first team). Why not recognize the differences and name corners and safeties seperately?

[lonny23]

My mistaken then, center.

Bullrock, if you can hook us up with some business tycoon looking to dump some $ into HS football then let 'em know where they can find us. ;)

The next step for the site outside of getting bigger/better resource wise is to secure some form of advertising. That would help fund things like printing the Gridiron Guide or getting 5A Texas Football.com shirts on sale.
I was going to say something to you guys about advertising. We've got guys over here in Kyrgyzstan that go to forums with advertising and you guys should make money off of it, too.

I say we get advertisers to sponsor posters, too. You know, "lonny23 brought to you by Danny Foix's Texaco!" I picked Danny because they're honest people that do a good job fixing your ride in Wichita Falls. I don't even care about making money. I'd be happy to have the KT's make money having somebody sponsor my posts!:D

[lonny23]

i second that opinion. hey, you could turn this into a money making deal by threatening to put certain ads up unless everyone kicks in a buck or 2.
He could also make a buck or two by threatening to ban certain posters unless they pay.:D

[lonny23]

Making those pics is a tough job in this state.

One thing I'd like to throw out there. Those coach of the year spots, really ought to be looked at more towards those coaches that took teams deep into the playoffs that no one gave much of a chance.

To me, that's the sign of at least the runnerups in that category.
That sounds like a plug for A&M Consolidated's coach, Jim Slaughter!;)

[lonny23]

Just one quick question for the moderators, and if it has been asked before forgive me. I noticed that you or the AP all state selections seem to make no distinction between cornerbacks and safeties. While they are I admit, some similarities in responsibility, there are also very different in the type of athlete that makes a good corner and one that will make a good safety. A safetie's stats will usually have more tackles and less interceptions and pass breakups as compared to a corner, while a corner will seldon have as many tackles as a good safety. It looks like the AP all state defensive backs weighed heavily on number of interceptions (at least on first team). Why not recognize the differences and name corners and safeties seperately?
That's a valid point. They are different, but look how high school safeties fare at higher levels. It seems like they turn HS linebackers into college safeties, and college linebackers into pro safeties. You don't really hear a lot about HS safeties moving on to the next level.

Here's what the Texas Football Pre-Season Super Team does:

Leonard Hewitt, Lufkin, corner or safety, but projects to play college corner.
Danny McCray, Westfield, Safety, but projects as college OLB.
Anthony Webb, Wilmer Hutchins, who didn't play in 2005, CB.
Malcolm Williams, SGP, Saefty, but projects as college corner.

[Eaglewatcher]

Lonny - Thanks for your input. I understand what you are saying but I would disagree, at least somewhat. Without doing a lot of research, I will only cite a couple of examples I know of from Abilene High. David Roach played safety at AHS and is now listed as a safety at TCU. Ryan Kennedy is doing the same at Navy and Travis Walding is working in at safety at Abilene Christian (Div II). These however may just be exceptions or may be an approach of how AHS works kids in at their safety positions.

[lonny23]

Lonny - Thanks for your input. I understand what you are saying but I would disagree, at least somewhat. Without doing a lot of research, I will only cite a couple of examples I know of from Abilene High. David Roach played safety at AHS and is now listed as a safety at TCU. Ryan Kennedy is doing the same at Navy and Travis Walding is working in at safety at Abilene Christian (Div II). These however may just be exceptions or may be an approach of how AHS works kids in at their safety positions.
Don't get me wrong. I know some guys play safety at both locations, but it seems like corners get recruited more than safeties. I do wish the All-State team had 2 corners and 2 safeties instead of 4 defensive backs that caters mostly to CB's who get INT's.

[Eaglewatcher]

I would agree with that.

[The Dynasty SC]

u realize if that was anything close to being accurate it would have those sc boys up and down that list and dodge would be getting every award ever handed out

[Evil47]

thanks for putting Juan Martinez, that dude is a real good RB....he was actually number 1 on stats(beating Bradley Stephens) til some 3rd string hater from Sharyland went in just to tear his ACL and put the only RGV player that has hope of playing D1 college football into the IR list...but hes only a Junior and lets see what he does next year....and thank you 5atexasfootball for recognizing Stephens because he does deserve it.

[TIGER]

I don't see where this kid Juan was leading Stephens in South Texas. Listed below are the stats from their last 3 regular season games from the Texas HS Coaches Association postings.

WEEK 8

RK Player, School, Class TC Yards Avg TD LG
1 Bradley Stephens, McAllen McAllen Memorial HS, Junior 156 1800 11.5 24 80
2 Andre Pierce, Rowlett Rowlett High School, Senior 205 1666 8.1 16 92
3 Wendall Williams, Mesquite John Horn High School, Senior 263 1521 5.8 14 61
4 Juan Martinez, La Joya La Joya HS, Junior 167 1425 8.5 24 81
5 BARON BATCH, Midland Midland HS, Senior 163 1365 8.4 19 76
6 Quincy D. Daniels, Belton Belton High School, Senior 225 1362 6.1 17 79
7 Foswhitt Whittaker, Pearland Pearland High School, Junior 163 1304 8.0 12 86
8 Willie Fielder, Weatherford Weatherford High School, Junior 172 1164 6.8 19 92
9 Justin Johnson, Richardson Berkner High School, Junior 160 1155 7.2 17 87
10 Antwan Cobb, Pflugerville Pflugerville HS, Senior 130 1145 8.8 20 97





WEEK 9

RK Player, School, Class TC Yards Avg TD LG
1 Bradley Stephens, McAllen McAllen Memorial HS, Junior 183 2107 11.5 28 80
2 Andre Pierce, Rowlett Rowlett High School, Senior 228 1749 7.7 17 92
3 Juan Martinez, La Joya La Joya HS, Junior 191 1602 8.4 27 81
4 Wendall Williams, Mesquite John Horn High School, Senior 263 1521 5.8 14 61
5 Quincy D. Daniels, Belton Belton High School, Senior 254 1511 5.9 17 79
6 Foswhitt Whittaker, Pearland Pearland High School, Junior 179 1490 8.3 14 86
7 BARON BATCH, Midland Midland HS, Senior 188 1487 7.9 22 76
8 Justin Johnson, Richardson Berkner High School, Junior 172 1268 7.4 19 87
9 Antwan Cobb, Pflugerville Pflugerville HS, Senior 145 1223 8.4 21 97
10 Willie Fielder, Weatherford Weatherford High School, Junior 191 1208 6.3 21 92


WEEK 10
RK Player, School, Class TC Yards Avg TD LG
1 Bradley Stephens, McAllen McAllen Memorial HS, Junior 219 2436 11.1 33 80
2 Andre Pierce, Rowlett Rowlett High School, Senior 258 2039 7.9 19 92
3 Wendall Williams, Mesquite John Horn High School, Senior 290 1725 5.9 14 61
4 Quincy D. Daniels, Belton Belton High School, Senior 277 1636 5.9 18 79
5 BARON BATCH, Midland Midland HS, Senior 213 1616 7.6 23 76
6 Juan Martinez, La Joya La Joya HS, Junior 191 1602 8.4 27 81
7 Foswhitt Whittaker, Pearland Pearland High School, Junior 193 1598 8.3 17 86
8 Willie Fielder, Weatherford Weatherford High School, Junior 223 1394 6.3 24 92
9 Justin Johnson, Richardson Berkner High School, Junior 202 1389 6.9 22 87
10 Zachary Young, San Antonio John Jay High School, Senior 181 1355 7.5 17 36

Stephens was clearly in the lead throughout the season playing I believe 1 game less according to the papers. This Juan kid is probably a really good RB. What is his measurables height, Weight, 40 time? Stephens is definitely a major D1 prospect. Havent heard much in regards to this Juan kid is he listed in the Rivals site?

[Evil47]

hmmm the time I read the Monitor Juan was 1 prolly in week 6 or 7...something because he tore his ACL from some idiot 3rd stringer that did it purposly. I think he barely stepped it up this year and I have no idea of his times but his stats show he is really good at RB....I stood next to him and he was about the same height..around 5'11 or 6....hes not short I will tell you that but its said he is a really good baseball player and he will major in that instead of football because we all know he doesnt get enough rep for his skill at RB so he has to show baseball scouts out there....La Joya does breed some good athletes that seem to try to shine but fall short of having glory most northerns get.....last year Robert Salinas was the South Texas sack master and even showed it at the Alamo dome where he had alot of pressures and almost got a sack but was held by some big O Linemen.....but he still burnt him....suprising that a Southern Hispanic got to play at the All Star Game.

[Evil47]

Juan has alot of heart and showed his immediate impact....when La Joya played Memorial....both Juan and Bradley showed very similar stats and yards per carry....lol both past the 300 yard mark easily in most of the games they played....and TDs were very similar....scary part is that they are both Juniors....hope the best for them.....might actually teach the valley how to play football lol...

[Evil47]

and just to prove that Juan never played a good Defense well he got 192 yards on CC Carroll witch average only 90 ypg.

[Evil47]

I don't see where this kid Juan was leading Stephens in South Texas. Listed below are the stats from their last 3 regular season games from the Texas HS Coaches Association postings.

WEEK 8

RK Player, School, Class TC Yards Avg TD LG
1 Bradley Stephens, McAllen McAllen Memorial HS, Junior 156 1800 11.5 24 80
2 Andre Pierce, Rowlett Rowlett High School, Senior 205 1666 8.1 16 92
3 Wendall Williams, Mesquite John Horn High School, Senior 263 1521 5.8 14 61
4 Juan Martinez, La Joya La Joya HS, Junior 167 1425 8.5 24 81
5 BARON BATCH, Midland Midland HS, Senior 163 1365 8.4 19 76
6 Quincy D. Daniels, Belton Belton High School, Senior 225 1362 6.1 17 79
7 Foswhitt Whittaker, Pearland Pearland High School, Junior 163 1304 8.0 12 86
8 Willie Fielder, Weatherford Weatherford High School, Junior 172 1164 6.8 19 92
9 Justin Johnson, Richardson Berkner High School, Junior 160 1155 7.2 17 87
10 Antwan Cobb, Pflugerville Pflugerville HS, Senior 130 1145 8.8 20 97





WEEK 9

RK Player, School, Class TC Yards Avg TD LG
1 Bradley Stephens, McAllen McAllen Memorial HS, Junior 183 2107 11.5 28 80
2 Andre Pierce, Rowlett Rowlett High School, Senior 228 1749 7.7 17 92
3 Juan Martinez, La Joya La Joya HS, Junior 191 1602 8.4 27 81
4 Wendall Williams, Mesquite John Horn High School, Senior 263 1521 5.8 14 61
5 Quincy D. Daniels, Belton Belton High School, Senior 254 1511 5.9 17 79
6 Foswhitt Whittaker, Pearland Pearland High School, Junior 179 1490 8.3 14 86
7 BARON BATCH, Midland Midland HS, Senior 188 1487 7.9 22 76
8 Justin Johnson, Richardson Berkner High School, Junior 172 1268 7.4 19 87
9 Antwan Cobb, Pflugerville Pflugerville HS, Senior 145 1223 8.4 21 97
10 Willie Fielder, Weatherford Weatherford High School, Junior 191 1208 6.3 21 92


WEEK 10
RK Player, School, Class TC Yards Avg TD LG
1 Bradley Stephens, McAllen McAllen Memorial HS, Junior 219 2436 11.1 33 80
2 Andre Pierce, Rowlett Rowlett High School, Senior 258 2039 7.9 19 92
3 Wendall Williams, Mesquite John Horn High School, Senior 290 1725 5.9 14 61
4 Quincy D. Daniels, Belton Belton High School, Senior 277 1636 5.9 18 79
5 BARON BATCH, Midland Midland HS, Senior 213 1616 7.6 23 76
6 Juan Martinez, La Joya La Joya HS, Junior 191 1602 8.4 27 81
7 Foswhitt Whittaker, Pearland Pearland High School, Junior 193 1598 8.3 17 86
8 Willie Fielder, Weatherford Weatherford High School, Junior 223 1394 6.3 24 92
9 Justin Johnson, Richardson Berkner High School, Junior 202 1389 6.9 22 87
10 Zachary Young, San Antonio John Jay High School, Senior 181 1355 7.5 17 36

Stephens was clearly in the lead throughout the season playing I believe 1 game less according to the papers. This Juan kid is probably a really good RB. What is his measurables height, Weight, 40 time? Stephens is definitely a major D1 prospect. Havent heard much in regards to this Juan kid is he listed in the Rivals site?

5'11, 185, 4.6 or 4.5.........but he runs through holes and punishes Defenses while Stephens just burns the defense. Juan should have been on the 2nd team at least.

[nathan00427]

I don't see where this kid Juan was leading Stephens in South Texas. Listed below are the stats from their last 3 regular season games from the Texas HS Coaches Association postings.

WEEK 8

RK Player, School, Class TC Yards Avg TD LG
1 Bradley Stephens, McAllen McAllen Memorial HS, Junior 156 1800 11.5 24 80
2 Andre Pierce, Rowlett Rowlett High School, Senior 205 1666 8.1 16 92
3 Wendall Williams, Mesquite John Horn High School, Senior 263 1521 5.8 14 61
4 Juan Martinez, La Joya La Joya HS, Junior 167 1425 8.5 24 81
5 BARON BATCH, Midland Midland HS, Senior 163 1365 8.4 19 76
6 Quincy D. Daniels, Belton Belton High School, Senior 225 1362 6.1 17 79
7 Foswhitt Whittaker, Pearland Pearland High School, Junior 163 1304 8.0 12 86
8 Willie Fielder, Weatherford Weatherford High School, Junior 172 1164 6.8 19 92
9 Justin Johnson, Richardson Berkner High School, Junior 160 1155 7.2 17 87
10 Antwan Cobb, Pflugerville Pflugerville HS, Senior 130 1145 8.8 20 97





WEEK 9

RK Player, School, Class TC Yards Avg TD LG
1 Bradley Stephens, McAllen McAllen Memorial HS, Junior 183 2107 11.5 28 80
2 Andre Pierce, Rowlett Rowlett High School, Senior 228 1749 7.7 17 92
3 Juan Martinez, La Joya La Joya HS, Junior 191 1602 8.4 27 81
4 Wendall Williams, Mesquite John Horn High School, Senior 263 1521 5.8 14 61
5 Quincy D. Daniels, Belton Belton High School, Senior 254 1511 5.9 17 79
6 Foswhitt Whittaker, Pearland Pearland High School, Junior 179 1490 8.3 14 86
7 BARON BATCH, Midland Midland HS, Senior 188 1487 7.9 22 76
8 Justin Johnson, Richardson Berkner High School, Junior 172 1268 7.4 19 87
9 Antwan Cobb, Pflugerville Pflugerville HS, Senior 145 1223 8.4 21 97
10 Willie Fielder, Weatherford Weatherford High School, Junior 191 1208 6.3 21 92


WEEK 10
RK Player, School, Class TC Yards Avg TD LG
1 Bradley Stephens, McAllen McAllen Memorial HS, Junior 219 2436 11.1 33 80
2 Andre Pierce, Rowlett Rowlett High School, Senior 258 2039 7.9 19 92
3 Wendall Williams, Mesquite John Horn High School, Senior 290 1725 5.9 14 61
4 Quincy D. Daniels, Belton Belton High School, Senior 277 1636 5.9 18 79
5 BARON BATCH, Midland Midland HS, Senior 213 1616 7.6 23 76
6 Juan Martinez, La Joya La Joya HS, Junior 191 1602 8.4 27 81
7 Foswhitt Whittaker, Pearland Pearland High School, Junior 193 1598 8.3 17 86
8 Willie Fielder, Weatherford Weatherford High School, Junior 223 1394 6.3 24 92
9 Justin Johnson, Richardson Berkner High School, Junior 202 1389 6.9 22 87
10 Zachary Young, San Antonio John Jay High School, Senior 181 1355 7.5 17 36

Stephens was clearly in the lead throughout the season playing I believe 1 game less according to the papers. This Juan kid is probably a really good RB. What is his measurables height, Weight, 40 time? Stephens is definitely a major D1 prospect. Havent heard much in regards to this Juan kid is he listed in the Rivals site?

i dont see dimitri on that list...why? if its south texas, why is andre pierce and such on the list?

[BigtimeO-line]

hmmm... it strikes me that though FB Marshall had the #1 ranked offense in Texas for most the duration of the football season, if not the whole season, yet not 1 FB Marshall offensive player is in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd All Texas-team, is it because no one has had the chance to see them play in person, or can there be other reasons, hmm... can someone let me in on what may be the answer to my question.

[DaMan]

Anyone who gets all that hype and then gets beat in the first round by a PRIVATE SCHOOL......is automatically disqualified.:p

[BigtimeO-line]

so you are claiming that all private schools are horrible???? and that there is no way they can beat anyone???? its not like they were garbage.. and i say we were mostly beaten by the zebras....
but all you are doing is making a "matter-of-fact" statement, trying to get a few giggles, which is nothing but an ill attempt to get around the fact in which we had the top offense in the state throughout most of the season.... now give me a FACT... otherwise hold your tongue unless you will be lining up in front of me and my O-Line on the Gridiron (which blocked for the top offense in the state)

[DaMan]

Top offense, blah, blah, blah. What kind of trophy do you get for that. Stats don't mean a thing in football.

:D Now I see why you got beat.

[BigtimeO-line]

now i see that you can't be a serious football player :p , being it natural for a hard working dedicated athlete to want him and his fellow teammates to be recognized for there efforts, whether you agree or not, the statements you are making are unneccessary, and need not be directed toward me at all, because you dont know me like that, and i hope, if you actually get off the bench, that you can line up in front of me and talk all that mess, you can't get pass my O-line, and as long as i am blocking no one will... now if someone wants to tell me that i am wrong in the "proper" manner than i welcome the constructive criticism, if not go on about your own business.

[DaMan]

Do you think that the people on here are still playing football? :confused: This is a message board where people discuss and voice opinions and in my opinion that great buffalo offense got outscored by a bunch of lesser athletes who played harder and smarter. Just because you can run up a bunch of stats on weak competition doesn't win you an award.
How about.............beat a playoff team. Can you say OVERRATED? Until I actually beat someone worth a darn, I wouldn't have such a chip on my shoulder. Tone it down big boy or some of those Strake Jesuit "Maneaters" may come back for another helping of buffalo.

[BigtimeO-line]

My point exactly.... im still on the line, still playing, so don't tell me to tone anything down, because i wont i'll jus get louder, and do you think i fear Strake Jesuit, i don't fear any team, don't care what anyone thinks, WE WILL WIN STATE this year, doubt me??? keep watching, we been disrespected ever since we step on the field, they look at us with every stereotype they can think of, but we will break everything this year.... and this so-called weak competition you talk about??? i remember every game this past year people said we were going to lose... bad coaching, no discipline, and all dat blah blah, and every week we proved everyone wrong, and we'll do it again..... see you on the field, oh wait, nevermind, you will be watching safely in the stands....

[dragonsdaddy]

"every week we proved everyone wrong, and we'll do it again....."
you mean most weeks i assume. good luck this off-season. that is where state titles are lost.

[DirtyHarry01]

Don't tell me this is the Marshall one-and-out Buffs still blowing gas. You got E-L-I-M-I-N-A-T-E-D in the first round of the playoffs. You know, that's the time when the 2-8 and 3-7 teams say goodbye. You guys were legends in your own mind and little ol' Strake beat you. (Strake is the school with the 3A size enrollment.) Have a good off season. At this rate, by August you'll have convinced yourselves you actually beat SLC. Bet they're trembling in their boots at the prospects of facing the mighty Marshall Marshmallows.

[BigtimeO-line]

Bet they're trembling in their boots at the prospects of facing the mighty Marshall Marshmallows.

lol, u know i actually enjoyed that statement, but whatever all of you think, thats ok, I am sure of my team, and i will never doubt my team because we've worked so hard with so much intensity ever since Nov. when our season came to a close, so whatever all of you believe thats fine by me, but dont ever expect me to doubt my teammates and my coaches, oh and look out for the State's Best D-Line in Justin Adams, Jeremy Coleman, Tyrone Sonier, and Anthony Green, dont take my word for it, i just hope SLC is working hard and not letting the media attention make them believe that they are more than human, best of luck to all teams this season...

[DaMan]

I have gone from thinking you are just cocky and arrogant to smiling when I read your posts. Your confidence is great to see and I hope you have a great season. I still think you were very overrated and underachieved with your talent last season, but I really enjoy the fact that you beilieve so much in yourself and your team. You seem like you would be a really fun guy to have on any team. Remember though you still have a lot to prove on the field and talk is cheap. Keep working hard and Good Luck to YOU!

[BigtimeO-line]

thanks for the luck, and i also apologize for some of my earlier posts, i may have a been a tad bit too aggressive with my words

[DaMan]

Play with that passion and you will have a great year. You guys have definitely emerged as the team to beat in Fort Bend.
Go Buffs

[DirtyHarry01]

Well, arrogance, confidence, and pride are usually the characteristics of a proven program, such as Lufkin, SLC, and several others. What makes Marshall unique is they don't have anything on which to base their boasts, except gas. George Foreman once said "where there's smoke, there's usually a lot more smoke." Next year, when the UIL has crowned Marshall 5A champions, then they are entitled to the chatter on the board. Until then, stay longer than one game in the playoffs, mate.

[DHS83]

Do you think that the people on here are still playing football? :confused: This is a message board where people discuss and voice opinions and in my opinion that great buffalo offense got outscored by a bunch of lesser athletes who played harder and smarter. Just because you can run up a bunch of stats on weak competition doesn't win you an award.
How about.............beat a playoff team. Can you say OVERRATED? Until I actually beat someone worth a darn, I wouldn't have such a chip on my shoulder. Tone it down big boy or some of those Strake Jesuit "Maneaters" may come back for another helping of buffalo.



Didnt Lufkin play weak competition in their district last year? When they finally stepped on the field with real competition, ( SLC ), they could only last thru halftime.

[DHS83]

Do you think that the people on here are still playing football? :confused: This is a message board where people discuss and voice opinions and in my opinion that great buffalo offense got outscored by a bunch of lesser athletes who played harder and smarter. Just because you can run up a bunch of stats on weak competition doesn't win you an award.
How about.............beat a playoff team. Can you say OVERRATED? Until I actually beat someone worth a darn, I wouldn't have such a chip on my shoulder. Tone it down big boy or some of those Strake Jesuit "Maneaters" may come back for another helping of buffalo.



Didnt Lufkin play weak competition in their district last year? When they finally stepped on the field with real competition, ( SLC ), they could only last thru halftime.