Most Impressive Run?

[SLC93]

Let the sub varsity stuff start flying! Let's talk streaks of dominance. Any team from any class, non 5A from any era. I'll start and I'm predictable.

3A Carroll Dragons

1986 - 1993

112 - 5 - 1
3 state championships
6 regional titles
state record 72 game winning streak in the regular season
playoff record - 33/4/1

Brang it! I'm expecting some Stephenville, Sealy, Celina. Who else got game?

[bowiedawgs01]

It's 4A, but that was the largest class at the time...

Austin Reagan
'67-70
51-3
3 State Titles
35 game winning streak
14-0 Playoff record

[svhorns]

2A Smithson Valley Rangers

1976-1979

10-28
0 state championships
0 playoff appearances



3A Smithson Valley Rangers

1980-1985

16-41-3
0 state championships
0 playoff appearances



4A Smithson Valley Rangers

1986-2001

99-82-1
0 state championships
7 playoff appearances
1 state championship appearance

[AHSeagles]

Let the sub varsity stuff start flying! Let's talk streaks of dominance. Any team from any class, non 5A from any era. I'll start and I'm predictable.

3A Carroll Dragons

1986 - 1993

112 - 5 - 1
3 state championships
6 regional titles
state record 72 game winning streak in the regular season
playoff record - 33/4/1

Brang it! I'm expecting some Stephenville, Sealy, Celina. Who else got game?
I don't know about their overall record during their state championship runs they had in the 90s. I do know that those (especially the 98 team) were ridiculous and I'd put up against most of the 5A champs since then.

[33Blood]

I think Celina wins this one hands down.

2007 9-AAA 16 0
2006 9-AAA 15 1
2005 13-AA 16 0
2004 13-AA 13 1
2003 9-AAA 10 2
2002 9-AAA 11 1
2001 12-AA 16 0
2000 12-AA 16 0
1999 11-AA 16 0
1998 11-AA 14 2
1997 15-AA 11 3
1996 15-AA 11 1
1995 11-AA 15 1
1994 11-AA 11 1


That is just ridiculous. And it goes from 2A to 3A with 2 coaches and they just kept rolling.

[DrEdward]

I think Celina wins this one hands down.

2007 9-AAA 16 0
2006 9-AAA 15 1
2005 13-AA 16 0
2004 13-AA 13 1
2003 9-AAA 10 2
2002 9-AAA 11 1
2001 12-AA 16 0
2000 12-AA 16 0
1999 11-AA 16 0
1998 11-AA 14 2
1997 15-AA 11 3
1996 15-AA 11 1
1995 11-AA 15 1
1994 11-AA 11 1


That is just ridiculous. And it goes from 2A to 3A with 2 coaches and they just kept rolling.


As impressive as Carroll's run in 3A was in the mid 80s to the early 90s, I would have to agree that in the smaller school classifications, Celina is at the top.

[farmerfan]

As impressive as Carroll's run in 3A was in the mid 80s to the early 90s, I would have to agree that in the smaller school classifications, Celina is at the top.

Yes Celinas is very impressive, I helped contribute to one of those losses seen there in 97 ;)
It woudl be tough to argue against he Bobcats but what Carroll did might be as impressive simply because it was done during the 1 champion era and against some great competition. I bet the Carroll run was far more dominant in average margin of victory compared to Celina. It would be tough for me to choose one over the other, yes championships and wins mean a lot but so do undisputed titles and Celina only has 1 of those while Carroll has 3

[baseballer08]

The 1999 Mart Panthers were the best non 5a team I have ever seen play. The Cosby show was the most electrifying thing on turf. That 2000 Celina team was amazing as well would love to see those two teams go at it...

[baseballer08]

haha sorry that last post was a little off topic :D

[mojo4life]

Yes Celinas is very impressive, I helped contribute to one of those losses seen there in 97 ;)
It woudl be tough to argue against he Bobcats but what Carroll did might be as impressive simply because it was done during the 1 champion era and against some great competition. I bet the Carroll run was far more dominant in average margin of victory compared to Celina. It would be tough for me to choose one over the other, yes championships and wins mean a lot but so do undisputed titles and Celina only has 1 of those while Carroll has 3

First off I feel like Farmer fan is a strong poster who i most always agree with,so this isn't directed at him persay.......But
good lord let's make this about current 6 man -4A schools...All we need is another forum for Katy and Slake (or any current 5a powerhouse) people to talk about thereselves:confused:to me this forum is a way for others to talk about there teams .........
I guess that maybe hard when teams intersect.but I hope that isn't the general rule on the new board. I want to hear of more teams not the same ol teams.

[AE 8008]

Abilene run in the 50's

3 state championships

49 game win streak (still the longest ;))

[grayowl60]

Abilene run in the 50's

3 state championships

49 game win streak (still the longest ;))
YEP! i still saythat run put Texas hs football on the map. But then you have to mention Breckenridge!!!

[jc84chill]

First off I feel like Farmer fan is a strong poster who i most always agree with,so this isn't directed at him persay.......But
good lord let's make this about current 6 man -4A schools...All we need is another forum for Katy and Slake (or any current 5a powerhouse) people to talk about thereselves:confused:to me this forum is a way for others to talk about there teams .........
I guess that maybe hard when teams intersect.but I hope that isn't the general rule on the new board. I want to hear of more teams not the same ol teams.

That's definitely what we're looking for as well. This is what we'll get in the short term until we get some non-5A posters around here.

It will come...

[DrEdward]

First off I feel like Farmer fan is a strong poster who i most always agree with,so this isn't directed at him persay.......But
good lord let's make this about current 6 man -4A schools...All we need is another forum for Katy and Slake (or any current 5a powerhouse) people to talk about thereselves:confused:to me this forum is a way for others to talk about there teams .........
I guess that maybe hard when teams intersect.but I hope that isn't the general rule on the new board. I want to hear of more teams not the same ol teams.

Feel free to make other contributions. But the fact of the matter here is that this is but one thread. If you think other teams in the lower classifications deserve to be discussed as having the most impressive run, feel free to suggest your candidates.

Aside from that, one could probably observe that most fans on the board right now are from 5A schools; not all but most. As more show up from the lower classifications, you may get the diversity you seek.

[grayowl60]

Most dominant year in Texas Hs history:
DAINGERFIELD 1983
16-0, 3A state champions
Outscored opponents 631-8 (Kilgore scored 2 points, Carthage 6)
Unscored on In 6 playoff games, Average 40+ to 0

Other old timers have said they had the best defense they ever saw in any classification. Offense was not to bad also. Of course most players went both ways.
Anybody even close?

[DrEdward]

Most dominant year in Texas Hs history:
DAINGERFIELD 1983
16-0, 3A state champions
Outscored opponents 631-8 (Kilgore scored 2 points, Carthage 6)
In 6 playoff games, Average 40+ to 0

Other old timers have said they had the best defense they ever saw in any classification. Offense was not to bad also.
Anybody even close?

'92 Carroll team - possibly the best high school team I have ever seen. More points production than any of Dodge's 5A squads.

[RedRage00]

More Southlake Carroll in the sub 5A section? Oh God. :rolleyes:

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

The 1999 Mart Panthers were the best non 5a team I have ever seen play. The Cosby show was the most electrifying thing on turf. That 2000 Celina team was amazing as well would love to see those two teams go at it...
Don't forget about John Garret on that Mart team!

I saw them beat up on Boyd in that '99 championship game.

As for Celina and Mart playing each other, if I'm not mistaken, Celina and Mart met up the very next year. Celina won by about 3 points.

[grayowl60]

'92 Carroll team - possibly the best high school team I have ever seen. More points production than any of Dodge's 5A squads.
Yes.. great year. But one team, Vernon, scored four times the points that Daingerfield allowed in 16 games!:eek:

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

More Southlake Carroll in the sub 5A section? Oh God. :rolleyes:
Rage, the Dragons had some insane teams, from the late '80s into the early '90s when they were 3A. I saw that '92 team, when they played against a cousin of mine.

Carroll and Vernon could've beaten a good number of 4A and 5A teams in '92.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Yes.. great year. But one team, Vernon, scored four times the points that Daingerfield allowed in 16 games!:eek:
That Vernon team was rediculous! It didn't look like it but, Dexter Butler wasn't the only one that they had. But, he was the main hoss!

[farmerfan]

Don't forget about John Garret on that Mart team!

I saw them beat up on Boyd in that '99 championship game.

As for Celina and Mart playing each other, if I'm not mistaken, Celina and Mart met up the very next year. Celina won by about 3 points.

Yes they did.
Played infront of about 22,000 at Tx Stadium. Celina did a good job of limiting the Quan even though he did run for about 160 and returned a punt for a TD. It was a dang good game. THe 99 Celina team was better IMO than the 2000 version. The 05 team was probably the best they ever had.

[farmerfan]

Yes.. great year. But one team, Vernon, scored four times the points that Daingerfield allowed in 16 games!:eek:

It just depends on what one prefers to look at.
THe offenisve minded fans will say 92 Carroll simply because no other team has scored 800 pts in a season before and others will say Daingerfield because not other team has gone an entire year with 14 shutouts and giving up less than 10 pts the entire year.
They both rank as very special seasons for both programs. The dominance throuhg 16 games by Daingerfield might be enough to trump the 15 game dominance that Carroll showed in their year though ;)

[grayowl60]

Daingerfield 1983 playoff wins (thanks WOS)
Clarksville 43-0
Robinson 22-0
Kaufman 46-0
Gladewater 51-0
Post 42-0
Sweeny 42-0

They went 14-1 in 84, lost in the finals, and 16-0 again in 85 and won state

[RedRage00]

1987 Cuero Gobblers
16-0 State Champs
Outscored opponents 692-126
7 shutouts

Plus, they're my favorite 3A team :D

[SLC93]

2A Smithson Valley Rangers

1976-1979

10-28
0 state championships
0 playoff appearances



3A Smithson Valley Rangers

1980-1985

16-41-3
0 state championships
0 playoff appearances



4A Smithson Valley Rangers

1986-2001

99-82-1
0 state championships
7 playoff appearances
1 state championship appearance

From ugly to better than average in 20 years or less, the story of the SV Rangers! ...... pre 5A:D

[SLC93]

I think Celina wins this one hands down.

2007 9-AAA 16 0
2006 9-AAA 15 1
2005 13-AA 16 0
2004 13-AA 13 1
2003 9-AAA 10 2
2002 9-AAA 11 1
2001 12-AA 16 0
2000 12-AA 16 0
1999 11-AA 16 0
1998 11-AA 14 2
1997 15-AA 11 3
1996 15-AA 11 1
1995 11-AA 15 1
1994 11-AA 11 1


That is just ridiculous. And it goes from 2A to 3A with 2 coaches and they just kept rolling.


Hard to argue but this is 13 years compared to Carroll's 8 so the numbers are obviously skewed in their favor. I would also say that all of our success came in a unified, one champion per class system. That has to be accounted for, especially in the smaller divisions where the depth is simply not comparable. Give me Carroll. We had one less season of at least 14 wins in 5 less total seasons. For the record, Celina is a beast. We'd have spanked that tail though. :D

[SLC93]

Yes Celinas is very impressive, I helped contribute to one of those losses seen there in 97 ;)
It woudl be tough to argue against he Bobcats but what Carroll did might be as impressive simply because it was done during the 1 champion era and against some great competition. I bet the Carroll run was far more dominant in average margin of victory compared to Celina. It would be tough for me to choose one over the other, yes championships and wins mean a lot but so do undisputed titles and Celina only has 1 of those while Carroll has 3

I knew you'd beat me to it! I have much love for Celina but I give us the nod for the same reasons you state, sheer dominance and the class structure. If you remove the first year in 3A, a 10-2 season, we went 102-3-1 with 6 of seven regional titles and 3 state titles.

[SLC93]

First off I feel like Farmer fan is a strong poster who i most always agree with,so this isn't directed at him persay.......But
good lord let's make this about current 6 man -4A schools...All we need is another forum for Katy and Slake (or any current 5a powerhouse) people to talk about thereselves:confused:to me this forum is a way for others to talk about there teams .........
I guess that maybe hard when teams intersect.but I hope that isn't the general rule on the new board. I want to hear of more teams not the same ol teams.

Ummmmm ..... this is a historic thread open for anyone from any 6man - 4A school ever to nominate their most dominant run. I'm a 3A Carroll alum, back when were were just Carroll High. I want to see where our run stacks against all the other great runs in the smaller classes. If I were smarter I'd have made a poll but I didn't wish to forget or exclude any potential nominees.

[SLC93]

The 1999 Mart Panthers were the best non 5a team I have ever seen play. The Cosby show was the most electrifying thing on turf. That 2000 Celina team was amazing as well would love to see those two teams go at it...

haha sorry that last post was a little off topic :D

Not really off topic. You're speaking more to the single best team as oppossed to the best run but its all good.

[SLC93]

Most dominant year in Texas Hs history:
DAINGERFIELD 1983
16-0, 3A state champions
Outscored opponents 631-8 (Kilgore scored 2 points, Carthage 6)
Unscored on In 6 playoff games, Average 40+ to 0

Other old timers have said they had the best defense they ever saw in any classification. Offense was not to bad also. Of course most players went both ways.
Anybody even close?

1992 Carroll

It would have been hotly contested but we'd have beaten them. Sorry history buffs, nostalgia huffers and stats lovers that is a fact.

[SLC93]

More Southlake Carroll in the sub 5A section? Oh God. :rolleyes:

See thread title. I asked for anyone and everyone to nominate the most impressive run any team from any era has ever put together. I happened to be part of our 3A years so I started the nominations. Please feel free to contribute another team we can debate on.

[SLC93]

Yes.. great year. But one team, Vernon, scored four times the points that Daingerfield allowed in 16 games!:eek:

With a kid that would have been a star on any DI team in the country and a serious NFL prospect had he not had issues. Dexter Butler was a man child. He would have scored a few times on that defense, believe that.

[SLC93]

Daingerfield 1983 playoff wins (thanks WOS)
Clarksville 43-0
Robinson 22-0
Kaufman 46-0
Gladewater 51-0
Post 42-0
Sweeny 42-0

They went 14-1 in 84, lost in the finals, and 16-0 again in 85 and won state

From 1991 -1993 Carroll went 46-0-1 with two state titles. A tie with Burnet in the semis is all that prevented 3 consecutive titles.

[SLC93]

1987 Cuero Gobblers
16-0 State Champs
Outscored opponents 692-126
7 shutouts

Plus, they're my favorite 3A team :D

Robert Strait was any absolute beast. If we hadn't spit the bit in 87 we'd have played that title game against them.

[SLC93]

Anyone got total numbers for Brile's years at Stephenville or Sealy's run? What about La Marque in the 90's? Alto? Anyone?

[SLC93]

Abilene run in the 50's

3 state championships

49 game win streak (still the longest ;))

;)

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[SLC93]

Waco?

[SLC93]

Wichita Falls?

[grayowl60]

1992 Carroll

It would have been hotly contested but we'd have beaten them. Sorry history buffs, nostalgia huffers and stats lovers that is a fact.
:eek: LOL. Is that because you say so? What did you think of Daingerfields offense when you saw them play in 83? Shouldnt be any question about thier defense:rolleyes:

[farmerfan]

Anyone got total numbers for Brile's years at Stephenville or Sealy's run? What about La Marque in the 90's? Alto? Anyone?

Going off of memory here, but I do believe that during the Sealy run you saw them go
16-0
16-0
15-1
15-0 and 14-1 the year they lost to Lineweaver and Commerce.
I believe the year before they lost to commerce 98 they went 10-1 or 9-2.

I could tell ya off memory what the Stephenviille title teams records were but would have a hard time realing off the seasons in between the set of back to backs they had.
I know one of those 3 years saw them lose to Denison and maybe Andrews. But don't quote me on that.

[dragonsdaddy]

More Southlake Carroll in the sub 5A section? Oh God. :rolleyes:

so slc's pre-5a success couldn't be discussed in the 5a groups, and now they can't even be discussed in the sub 5a threads. get a life, and maybe a good team to live for.

[grayowl60]

Ennis!!!

[33Blood]

Ennis!!!

Let's not bring them up.

[grayowl60]

Let's not bring them up.
Ok, How about... Brownwood!!!

[RedRage00]

so slc's pre-5a success couldn't be discussed in the 5a groups, and now they can't even be discussed in the sub 5a threads. get a life, and maybe a good team to live for.

lmao stfu

[farmerfan]

Let's not bring them up.

At least yall built your stadium with a capcity of one extra seat so you can say you have the larger stadium ;):D

[mojo4life]

Feel free to make other contributions. matter here is that this is but one thread. If you think other teams in the lower classifications deserve to be discussed as having the most impressive run, feel free to suggest your candidates.

Aside from that, one could probably observe that most fans on the board right now are from 5A schools; not all but most. As more show up from the lower classifications, you may get the diversity you seek.

o.k, Mojo 1972 4a state champs /national champs.:D;)
And (I could be wrong but I believe it's the diversity the Admins seek)Also, It is just one thread but the Forum just started .
anyways,
I think Fort Hancock (6-man) had a run worth mentioning in the late 80 early 90's

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Yes they did.
Played infront of about 22,000 at Tx Stadium. Celina did a good job of limiting the Quan even though he did run for about 160 and returned a punt for a TD. It was a dang good game. THe 99 Celina team was better IMO than the 2000 version. The 05 team was probably the best they ever had.
Wow! Celina "limited" him to 160! 160 is a great day for a lot of people!

Speaking of Quan, whatever happened to his brother Quincy?

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Going off of memory here, but I do believe that during the Sealy run you saw them go
16-0
16-0
15-1
15-0 and 14-1 the year they lost to Lineweaver and Commerce.
I believe the year before they lost to commerce 98 they went 10-1 or 9-2.

I could tell ya off memory what the Stephenviille title teams records were but would have a hard time realing off the seasons in between the set of back to backs they had.
I know one of those 3 years saw them lose to Denison and maybe Andrews. But don't quote me on that.
If I'm not mistaken, Denison beat Stephenville twice! Both of the years that they beat Stephenville, Denison went to the title game, and lost to La Marque.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Let's not bring them up.
After seeing the helmet in your avatar, I'm guessing that you don't like Ennis that much.

[AE 8008]

YEP! i still saythat run put Texas hs football on the map. But then you have to mention Breckenridge!!!

yup the breckenridge boys were a tough bunch

[AE 8008]

1987 Cuero Gobblers
16-0 State Champs
Outscored opponents 692-126
7 shutouts

Plus, they're my favorite 3A team :D

would "gobbler" have anything to do with it?

[AE 8008]

;)

:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

yeah there was another team that matched it...;)

[SLC93]

:eek: LOL. Is that because you say so? What did you think of Daingerfields offense when you saw them play in 83? Shouldnt be any question about thier defense:rolleyes:

Their defense was absolutely astounding. I would never attempt to say otherwise. The offense was no better than any other east texas team I've ever seen. I'm not saying this is an exact, one to one translation but Carroll, as a 3A squad, had to go the east texas route to win a state title. We played the Daingerfields, Gladewaters & Gilmers and we consistently hammered them. 1983 Daingerfield vs 1992 Carroll is the matchup for best 3A squad of all time. Daingerfield would have been outcoached and played nobody remotely as deep or talented, offensively, as what we were. The Carroll scoring record is not held by a 5A player of the year led, spread offense. It's held by the 92, multibone we ran to near perfection. In my opinion, we would have contained their offense, putting all the pressure on their defense. we'd have made enough plays to win a close one.

[SLC93]

Ennis!!!

Nice. Why is it we always mention Ennis but is always seems like we nearly forgot them. Those squads were amazing, period.

[SLC93]

For Stephenville, it was all about Briles. From 1989 - 1999 they qualified for the playoffs every year, remarkable since they hadn't for decades before his arrival. Here's how it broke out.

89 = 9-3
90 = 13-2
91 = 9-3
92 = 10-4
93 = 16-0 State Champs
94 = 16 -0 State Champs
95 = 12-2
96 = 8-5
97 = 8-4
98 = 15-1 State Champs
99 = 16-0 State Champs

Briles impact on the program and the state is probably the most impressive aspect of their run. Hard to discount any team that wins a state title 40% of the time but I think, looking back, it was a really good/great run but not the most impressive ever.

[RedRage00]

would "gobbler" have anything to do with it?

lol no
I grew up in the area.

[SLC93]

Lets look at La Marque from 1992 - 1998

92 = 12-1
93 = 14-1 finals
94 = 15-1 finals
95 = 16-0 champs
96 = 14-2 champs
97 = 13-3 champs
98 = 13-1 finals

6 straight trips to the finals. Were it not for Briles probably 6 consecutive titles. Can't speak to the competition and some of the multi loss seasons may damper it a bit but that is one helluva run!

[SLC93]

My issue with Ennis would be the length of the run. I would quntify them as being between 1999 -2004. Now 3 titles in 6 seasons is impressive but only one was undefeated. They did smoke our tales, however so I give them all due respect.

99 = 12-3
00 = 14-2 champs
01 = 16-0 champs
02 = 13-2
03 = 12-1
04 = 13-2 champs

[SLC93]

Sealy from 93 - 99

93 = 10-3
94 = 16-0 champs
95 = 16-0 champs
96 = 15-1 champs
97 = 16-0 champs
98 = 7-3
99 = 14-1 finals

[SLC93]

Two things:

1) I need to give credit to WOS87 as he is the source for the records I have been posting.:notworthy

2) Since the spirit of this thread is runs in the smaller classes, I would say that whatever the largest class was at the time of the team you are arguing should be disqualified from the debate. So 4A schools, pre 5A should not be considered. I would consider those schools for the debate of most impressive run in the largest division.

[Aggies2009]

Most dominant year in Texas Hs history:
DAINGERFIELD 1983
16-0, 3A state champions
Outscored opponents 631-8 (Kilgore scored 2 points, Carthage 6)
Unscored on In 6 playoff games, Average 40+ to 0

Other old timers have said they had the best defense they ever saw in any classification. Offense was not to bad also. Of course most players went both ways.
Anybody even close?

I have a few DVDs of their playoff games.

Carthage only scored 6 points because they picked a pass off and ran it back. And Kilgore's points didn't come against the defense either.

[AE 8008]

lol no
I grew up in the area.

lol k

[SLC93]

Yes Celinas is very impressive, I helped contribute to one of those losses seen there in 97 ;)
It woudl be tough to argue against he Bobcats but what Carroll did might be as impressive simply because it was done during the 1 champion era and against some great competition. I bet the Carroll run was far more dominant in average margin of victory compared to Celina. It would be tough for me to choose one over the other, yes championships and wins mean a lot but so do undisputed titles and Celina only has 1 of those while Carroll has 3

I'll let a Celina supporter crunch their numbers or ,at least, define the years they want to be included. For us it goes as follows.

1986 -1993

Record:
112-5-1

Points For:
4742

Points Against:
874

Average Score:

40 - 7

Our five losses were by a combined 44 points with only one, in the 86 p/o's, coming by double digits at 12 points.

[mojo4life]

Two things:

1) I need to give credit to WOS87 as he is the source for the records I have been posting.:notworthy

2) Since the spirit of this thread is runs in the smaller classes, I would say that whatever the largest class was at the time of the team you are arguing should be disqualified from the debate. So 4A schools, pre 5A should not be considered. I would consider those schools for the debate of most impressive run in the largest division.

;):cool:

[grayowl60]

Their defense was absolutely astounding. I would never attempt to say otherwise. The offense was no better than any other east texas team I've ever seen. I'm not saying this is an exact, one to one translation but Carroll, as a 3A squad, had to go the east texas route to win a state title. We played the Daingerfields, Gladewaters & Gilmers and we consistently hammered them. 1983 Daingerfield vs 1992 Carroll is the matchup for best 3A squad of all time. Daingerfield would have been outcoached and played nobody remotely as deep or talented, offensively, as what we were. The Carroll scoring record is not held by a 5A player of the year led, spread offense. It's held by the 92, multibone we ran to near perfection. In my opinion, we would have contained their offense, putting all the pressure on their defense. we'd have made enough plays to win a close one.
Thats why they have strawberry and chocolate ice cream. Opinions. Fact is that Daingerfield teams record may never be matched. Dont think for a second that East Texas is weak. There are more 3A and 4A teams there than any part of the state, and most are well coached, one school programs. Texarkana, Kilgore, Sulpher Springs, Gilmer, Carthage...on and on. That team was a freakish (as in Secretariate, Babe Ruth, Joe louis, freakish)Collection of very tough kids of steel mill workers, farmers and top coaching. They are not my team, but I have been told by folks that know, that for the only time in history, that a 3A team was the best team in the state. BTW check teams they played, and records. They shut down all kinds of ''bones";)

[SLC93]

Thats why they have strawberry and chocolate ice cream. Opinions. Fact is that Daingerfield teams record may never be matched. Dont think for a second that East Texas is weak. There are more 3A and 4A teams there than any part of the state, and most are well coached, one school programs. Texarkana, Kilgore, Sulpher Springs, Gilmer, Carthage...on and on. That team was a freakish (as in Secretariate, Babe Ruth, Joe louis, freakish)Collection of very tough kids of steel mill workers, farmers and top coaching. They are not my team, but I have been told by folks that know, that for the only time in history, that a 3A team was the best team in the state. BTW check teams they played, and records. They shut down all kinds of ''bones";)


Absolutely. I was using that as a support point for our dominance. We beat the best east Texas had to offer during many years of our 3A run. My point was we were not unfamiliar with that kind of talent and speed. I have my views. They are biased, admittedly, and this one is prolly in the minority. God bless opinions and options to accomodate them.:D

[grayowl60]

Absolutely. I was using that as a support point for our dominance. We beat the best east Texas had to offer during many years of our 3A run. My point was we were not unfamiliar with that kind of talent and speed. I have my views. They are biased, admittedly, and this one is prolly in the minority. God bless opinions and options to accomodate them.:D
SLC was great in those years. Dont remember any city- fied 3As that good:notworthy

[RedRage00]

Rage, the Dragons had some insane teams, from the late '80s into the early '90s when they were 3A. I saw that '92 team, when they played against a cousin of mine.

Carroll and Vernon could've beaten a good number of 4A and 5A teams in '92.

Yes, I know. I remember when they beat Cuero in the finals in I think 1993. I was joking but some people get their panties in a bunch lol

[dragonsdaddy]

Thats why they have strawberry and chocolate ice cream. Opinions. Fact is that Daingerfield teams record may never be matched. Dont think for a second that East Texas is weak. There are more 3A and 4A teams there than any part of the state, and most are well coached, one school programs. Texarkana, Kilgore, Sulpher Springs, Gilmer, Carthage...on and on. That team was a freakish (as in Secretariate, Babe Ruth, Joe louis, freakish)Collection of very tough kids of steel mill workers, farmers and top coaching. They are not my team, but I have been told by folks that know, that for the only time in history, that a 3A team was the best team in the state. BTW check teams they played, and records. They shut down all kinds of ''bones";)and exactly how do these experts Know this opinion to be factual?

[grayowl60]

and exactly how do these experts Know this opinion to be factual?
Witnessed them, experience, longtime coaching, scouting, reporting. Do you know this opinion is not factual?

[WOS87]

Most dominant year in Texas Hs history:
DAINGERFIELD 1983
16-0, 3A state champions
Outscored opponents 631-8 (Kilgore scored 2 points, Carthage 6)
Unscored on In 6 playoff games, Average 40+ to 0

Other old timers have said they had the best defense they ever saw in any classification. Offense was not to bad also. Of course most players went both ways.
Anybody even close?

You need to put MODERN Texas high school history behind that. There were plenty of teams that went unscored upon for the entire season prior to 1951.

The Pittsburg Pirates of 1980 came awfully close to matching what Daingerfield did 3 years later. They went 15-0-0 with 432 points for and only 23 against for the entire season on their way to a 3A State Championship.

Other great runs in the lower classifications:

Breckenridge
1950 11-1-0
1951 12-1-0
1952 12-1-0
1953 8-2-0
1954 10-1-2
1955 10-3-0
1956 4-6-0
1957 7-3-1
1958 13-1-0
1959 11-1-2

They won 5 State Championships in the 2nd largest classification in those 10 years, and beat the largest classification state champ 3 times (Wichita Falls twice and Abilene once) so arguably they had the best team in the state 3 of those years.

Childress
1969 9-1-0
1970 11-1-1
1971 8-4-1
1972 11-1-0
1973 10-3-0
1974 8-2-0
1975 13-1-1
1976 14-1-0
1977 12-2-0
1978 13-1-0
1979 13-1-0
1980 11-1-0

Their claim to fame is having the second most playoff wins of all-time among teams that have never won a single state championship (Calallen is #1 in that category)

Gregory-Portland
1969 11-0-1
1970 10-2-0
1971 11-1-0
1972 9-3-0
1973 11-1-0
1974 10-2-0
1975 8-1-3
1976 11-2-0
1977 11-1-0
1978 9-3-0
1979 11-0-1
1980 10-1-0

The ONLY program in the state that qualified for the playoffs 12 consecutive seasons when only one school per district advanced to the playoffs.

Stamford
1951 9-1-0
1952 13-1-0
1953 11-1-0
1954 9-1-0
1955 15-0-0
1956 15-0-0
1957 8-2-0
1958 13-1-1
1959 15-0-0

Held the statewide record of most consecutive playoff wins (13 in a row with an 8-8 tie in the '58 semifinals breaking the streak) until Austin Reagan surpassed it 10 years later. They won 4 State Championships on the field in 1955, 1956, 1958 and 1959 (going 19-0-1 in playoff games) but were stripped of the 1959 Title due to use of an ineligible player.


There's lots more where the above came from but don't have time to go on... will post more later.

[33Blood]

Daingerfield was the 3A team of the 80's and Alexander had a 5 or 6 year run there as good as just about any. His teams have always been tough. But Celina still gets my vote with the run they had and hardware they took home. It is the most impressive of all classifications.

[mojosoundwave]

most dominant year in texas hs history:
Daingerfield 1983
16-0, 3a state champions
outscored opponents 631-8 (kilgore scored 2 points, carthage 6)
unscored on in 6 playoff games, average 40+ to 0

other old timers have said they had the best defense they ever saw in any classification. Offense was not to bad also. Of course most players went both ways.
Anybody even close?

wow

[b756561]

Not to say they compare to Celina, Southlake, Daingerfield, or any of the other great teams that Texas has produced, because they don't(okay rabid fans, I've already said they do not compare to the greatness of YOUR team) but Pilot Point had a pretty good run also. They were 117-11-7 over a 10 year period. During this period, they had two head coaches, G.A. Moore and Jerry Jones. They lost no district games in 10 years and they lost no home games in 10 years. They won two state titles(one was a scoreless tie game but P.P. had the first tie breaker) in those 10 years so they lost 11 games in 8 years. 8 of those 11 were in the play-offs where they did not win the state title. This means they lost 3 regular season games in 10 years. All three of those loses came at the hands of teams in higher classifications. Again, not as good as some of the other teams in the state over the years, but not bad. :notworthy:D:notworthy

[baseballer08]

Wow! Celina "limited" him to 160! 160 is a great day for a lot of people!

Speaking of Quan, whatever happened to his brother Quincy?

from what i understand he has bounced around quite a bit. went to baylor then navarro and now i hear he is back in mart.

[SLC93]

Not to say they compare to Celina, Southlake, Daingerfield, or any of the other great teams that Texas has produced, because they don't(okay rabid fans, I've already said they do not compare to the greatness of YOUR team) but Pilot Point had a pretty good run also. They were 117-11-7 over a 10 year period. During this period, they had two head coaches, G.A. Moore and Jerry Jones. They lost no district games in 10 years and they lost no home games in 10 years. They won two state titles(one was a scoreless tie game but P.P. had the first tie breaker) in those 10 years so they lost 11 games in 8 years. 8 of those 11 were in the play-offs where they did not win the state title. This means they lost 3 regular season games in 10 years. All three of those loses came at the hands of teams in higher classifications. Again, not as good as some of the other teams in the state over the years, but not bad. :notworthy:D:notworthy

They ruined many of our 2A seasons. We played them to the wire one year but failed to make the playoffs at 9-1 after they prevailed. They were stout.