Which of these films would you not allow your school aged kid to watch?

[twcpfan1]

You can pick more than one. The single, young and childless can vote too. Let's do it for the age group 13 - 16.

[ktCarl]

Which films are you referring to?

[twcpfan1]

Which films are you referring to?

Just got done with the poll.

[tayb]

Interesting list...

I would not want my child watching any of those very strange movies.

I have never heard of this title "None of the above." Please tell me more about this movie.

[Miss Kitty]

I haven't seen them all myself. But the music from Rent is great.

[twcpfan1]

I haven't seen them all myself. But the music from Rent is great.

Yes. Is it ever.

[twcpfan1]

Interesting list...

I would not want my child watching any of those very strange movies.

I have never heard of this title "None of the above." Please tell me more about this movie.

Tayb, you do realize you voted for all and none, right?

[Miss Kitty]

I think it depends on the kid. My oldest had probably seen most of those by the time she was 16 and understood most of them better than some adults. Okay, she didn't see Rent until she was 18 when it came her on the stage. There was not a movie made yet. But both daughters know the entire soundtrack.

[twcpfan1]

I think it depends on the kid. My oldest had probably seen most of those by the time she was 16 and understood most of them better than some adults. Okay, she didn't see Rent until she was 18 when it came her on the stage. There was not a movie made yet. But both daughters know the entire soundtrack.

So it's safe to assume that had she been 13 - 16, you would have let her watch Rent?

I would.

[BDB]

as long as they were to ask me before.

[Miss Kitty]

So it's safe to assume that had she been 13 - 16, you would have let her watch Rent?

I would.

yes

[Miss Kitty]

You left Rocky Horror Pic Show off the list. :D

[ChanSHS]

By 13, they can watch pretty much anything.

I did.

[Firebird]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyX9zdcU0T0

[dragons08]

My parents let me watch anything I wanted.

[DragonBand06]

I've only seen Pulp Fiction, Clockwork Orange, and Silence of the Lambs, but Silence is the only one I'd let a kid 16 or younger watch. MAYBE Clockwork, but only if they were 16 or pretty mature. Pulp Fiction has way too much drug use, violence, and language.

[the_phoenix612]

I've only seen Pulp Fiction, Clockwork Orange, and Silence of the Lambs, but Silence is the only one I'd let a kid 16 or younger watch. MAYBE Clockwork, but only if they were 16 or pretty mature. Pulp Fiction has way too much drug use, violence, and language.

Are you seriously saying that Pulp Fiction is more inappropriate for kids than is Clockwork Orange???

[BDB]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyX9zdcU0T0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0OQXI8lvqY

[GoOwls]

I'm not sure how to vote here.....some I wouldn't want my average 13 year old to watch, but maybe I'd be OK with the 16 year old watching it....know what I mean....there is a ton of difference in a 13 and a 16 year old.

Also, is this just the kid watching the movie by themselves, or watching the movie in my presence for guidance and to answer questions...my kids, even the step-kids, liked watching movies with me so I could explain things for them....it makes a difference, at least to me....;)

[stevefoxsc]

let my kid watch what ever he wants, good parenting can teach a kid decent morals and the difference between reality and illusion.

If ur the type of parent to blame media, games, and music choose away.

[twcpfan1]

You left Rocky Horror Pic Show off the list. :D

Yep. But 2 more suitable additions to the list would have been Deliverance and Midnight Cowboy. Completely forgot about those 2 films.

[GoOwls]

let my kid watch what ever he wants, good parenting can teach a kid decent morals and the difference between reality and illusion.

If ur the type of parent to blame media, games, and music choose away.

Yeah, you go right ahead with all that when you're raising your kids....just make sure I know what neighborhood it is so I avoid it......get used to knowing where all the jails are in your area.....;)

[ChanSHS]

Yeah, you go right ahead with all that when you're raising your kids....just make sure I know what neighborhood it is so I avoid it......get used to knowing where all the jails are in your area.....;)

My parents did that to me.

Ended up a smart kid, graduating top 5% and scholarships up the *** from A&M and UT.

[GoOwls]

My parents did that to me.

Ended up a smart kid, graduating top 5% and scholarships up the *** from A&M and UT.

Look, there are kids, like yourself and Steve, that can handle mature subject matter and it not influence or confuse them.

I dare say that most kids can't at least at varying ages, anyway.

A parents job it to know his kids and know what that particular child can handle.

I raised 6 kids, 3 mine and 3 steps..they all had different thresholds of tolerance, knowledge, depth, understanding, and maturity...knowing those differences and managing it as best as you can is what parenting is all about.

It would appear that your parents made a good call with you, as did my parents....we were apparently very mature at a young age.....but many kids are not and they need more guidance....something I think is dreadfully absent in our culture right now....too many parents don't and won't parent.

Finally, back when Aliens 2 hit cable, I let my 9 year old see it, I thought he was ready for it.....he told me a few years later that he hated me for a while for letting him see it...he got nightmares from it.

It made me a better parent and I think I made better choices after that.

[tayb]

Are you one of those people that thinks video games make kids violent?

[GoOwls]

Are you one of those people that thinks video games make kids violent?

No, I think some violent kids get stirred up by video games, at times, and influenced, at times, but in general, most kids are able to seperate make believe from reality.

[Bass]

My parents let me watch anything with them by the time I was 14. Really, my only limit on rated R movies was that I couldn't let my friends watch them unless their parents talked to my parents first and said it was alright. I tried to show all of my buddies Saving Private Ryan in 7th grade and I got in a lot of trouble. :D

Video games were different, though. I wasn't allowed to play rated M (age 17+) games until I was in 8th grade. I hated that rule more than anything in the world. My parents were very adamant about what games I could and couldn't play. My mom was pretty crazy about it, thinking I would grow up to be some horrible criminal with no regard for human life. Thanks for the vote of confidence, Mom. Even now, I don't tell my parents I play Grand Theft Auto IV for fear of a talking to. I'm 20. /faceplam.

[GoOwls]

I went ahead and voted that none would be off limits, but on the condition that the first time they watched it, was with me.....some on the list would not have that restriction, but to vote the age range, I gotta put that qualifier in.

BTW, I would add Saving Private Ryan to that list...very disturbing film for a kid, potentially.

[the_phoenix612]

am I the only one who is angry that people are seriously saying they wouldn't let their kids watch RENT?

[tayb]

am I the only one who is angry that people are seriously saying they wouldn't let their kids watch RENT?

Look at who voted. Yankee and I voted for every single category including None of the above. ;)

[GoOwls]

am I the only one who is angry that people are seriously saying they wouldn't let their kids watch RENT?

You get angry at alot of stuff.....;)

[Firebird]

My parents did that to me.

Ended up a smart kid, graduating top 5% and scholarships up the *** from A&M and UT.

Financial aid must do things differently now. They never put my scholarships in my :Censor:.

[GoOwls]

Financial aid must do things differently now. They never put my scholarships in my :Censor:.

/facepalm

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[BleedinBloksDaily]

id let my kid watch any of them...a movie is a ****** movie..**** is fake..they 2 can learn that..movies are overrated

[Bass]

I went ahead and voted that none would be off limits, but on the condition that the first time they watched it, was with me.....some on the list would not have that restriction, but to vote the age range, I gotta put that qualifier in.

BTW, I would add Saving Private Ryan to that list...very disturbing film for a kid, potentially.

I completely agree with this.

I agree with the entire post, really.

Kids of all ages have trouble seeing movies for more than the action and swearing. A friend and I watched Full Metal Jacket for the first time as sophomores in high school. As soon as it ended, all my buddy could talk about was how he wanted to join the Marines and be a killing machine and be a real hard *** like R. Lee Ermey. He went on like that for at least a year. It was terrible.

It's great to want to be in the service, but to want to be in the Marines because you watched Full Metal Jacket??? That's just ridiculous. It's the complete opposite of what that movie is trying to say. A movie shouldn't be influencing those sorts of choices, anyway.

I don't know about Brokeback Mountain or Rent because I've never seen them. I'm no expert, but kids seem a little less likely to get caught up in homosexuality than street violence after watching a movie. :laugh
If they want to see those two movies I don't think I'm gonna tell them they have to watch them with me first.

[GoOwls]

id let my kid watch any of them...a movie is a ****** movie..**** is fake..they 2 can learn that..movies are overrated

Uh oh, yet another neighborhood I gotta avoid.....:eek:

[Firebird]

The ones I didn't vote for I haven't seen. It's a bit tough because some on that list I would let a 16 year old see but not a 13 year old. And as sexist as this will sound, it makes a difference if I am talking my son or my daughter. Silence of the Lambs is a great movie, but I'll be damned if I want my (future) 13 year old daughter watching a psycho tucking his junk between his legs and prancing around, or explaining what a girl her age is doing working as a hooker (Taxi Driver). In general I think kids grow up too fast. O be careful little eyes, you know?

[Bass]

The ones I didn't vote for I haven't seen. It's a bit tough because some on that list I would let a 16 year old see but not a 13 year old. And as sexist as this will sound, it makes a difference if I am talking my son or my daughter. Silence of the Lambs is a great movie, but I'll be damned if I want my (future) 13 year old daughter watching a psycho tucking his junk between his legs and prancing around, or some creep perving out over a girl her age on film (Taxi Driver). In general I think kids grow up too fast. O be careful little eyes, you know?

Actually, I didn't consider the kid watching the movies being a girl. Haha, oops. That changes everything.

I'd let a boy watch them, but not a girl. I think you can teach a boy right from wrong and fantasy from reality easier than you can teach a girl to not be scared of the men in those movies.

[GoOwls]

The ones I didn't vote for I haven't seen. It's a bit tough because some on that list I would let a 16 year old see but not a 13 year old. And as sexist as this will sound, it makes a difference if I am talking my son or my daughter. Silence of the Lambs is a great movie, but I'll be damned if I want my (future) 13 year old daughter watching a psycho tucking his junk between his legs and prancing around, or some creep perving out over a girl her age on film (Taxi Driver). In general I think kids grow up too fast. O be careful little eyes, you know?

We're way too alike, I know that displeases you, but we're way to alike....;)

[Firebird]

Actually, I didn't consider the kid watching the movies being a girl. Haha, oops. That changes everything.

I'd let a boy watch them, but not a girl. I think you can teach a boy right from wrong and fantasy from reality easier than you can teach a girl to not be scared of the men in those movies.

Even my son I would have to be wary of letting watch films with significant subtexts involving the sexual abuse of children. In all honesty, I could have lived my entire life and been perfectly happy without ever having to know that such things happened, let alone watch it portrayed on film. As an adult I know that I need to be aware of that stuff in order to protect the kids around me, but I don't think that kids need to know the nuts and bolts of it in order to be protected. They have time to learn and think about that stuff later. I just don't want it in their heads, boy or girl.

With every year I also get less tolerant of gratuitous violence in film, and movies about sickos. I could do without some of those images in my head. The problem is that when you're young you don't realize what you'll regret watching later.

[Firebird]

Are you one of those people that thinks video games make kids violent?

I think the main problem is that we tend to think of kids, especially once they can talk and articulate themselves on the level of preteens and young teens, as essentially minituare adults. People tend to assume that they use the same types of decision making processes, that they understand things the same way we do, that they process information the same way. Problem is that all the research shows that's bunk. And speaking as a former teenager, I know for a fact that I don't think the same way I used to. "Good parenting" can't work magic tricks, because you can't sit down with a 14 year old and patiently explain consequences, potential outcomes, probabilities, etc. They hear the same words, but the information does not compute the same way. When I was 15 I once rode a bicycle off the roof of my friend's house into the shallow end of his swimming pool. Proof positive that teenagers aren't just little versions of us that are capable of making the same sort of rational decisions.


I don't think you can blame violent video games for youth violence, but I also don't think that allowing teenagers to role play murder, theft, and sex on screen can possibly have any sort of good effect. Same way with music that glorifies the same themes. And along with Bass, I can say that most--not all-- kids are going to have a hard time looking beyond the violence and shooting and swearing in these very adult movies with adult themes.

All in all I don't think it's a bad principle that there are certain pleasures and entertainments in this world properly reserved for adults. This isn't a new principle, it's been around for ages. We ignore it at our peril.

[DragonBand06]

When I was 15 I once rode a bicycle off the roof of my friend's house into the shallow end of his swimming pool.This explains so much. ;)

[JagFan]

It is hard to say. Depends on maturity. Maybe not at 13 but at 15/16 I would. I agree with Firebird in that it also depends on wether or not it was a boy or girl.

I can say with any of them they would watch it the first time with me.

[ktCarl]

I think the main problem is that we tend to think of kids, especially once they can talk and articulate themselves on the level of preteens and young teens, as essentially minituare adults. People tend to assume that they use the same types of decision making processes, that they understand things the same way we do, that they process information the same way. Problem is that all the research shows that's bunk. And speaking as a former teenager, I know for a fact that I don't think the same way I used to. "Good parenting" can't work magic tricks, because you can't sit down with a 14 year old and patiently explain consequences, potential outcomes, probabilities, etc. They hear the same words, but the information does not compute the same way. When I was 15 I once rode a bicycle off the roof of my friend's house into the shallow end of his swimming pool. Proof positive that teenagers aren't just little versions of us that are capable of making the same sort of rational decisions.


I don't think you can blame violent video games for youth violence, but I also don't think that allowing teenagers to role play murder, theft, and sex on screen can possibly have any sort of good effect. Same way with music that glorifies the same themes. And along with Bass, I can say that most--not all-- kids are going to have a hard time looking beyond the violence and shooting and swearing in these very adult movies with adult themes.

All in all I don't think it's a bad principle that there are certain pleasures and entertainments in this world properly reserved for adults. This isn't a new principle, it's been around for ages. We ignore it at our peril.

I believe you've put in words better what most adults with kids believe. The one thing that is hard to control is the parents of the children your kids play with. I almost had a cow when I found out that my 9 yr old son watched the original uncut version of 'Texas Chain Saw Massacre' at a friend's house. That kids parents didn't care what the kids watched.

[slorch]

none of them are appropriate for kids under 18.

yes, really.

If they did watch any of those, i would want to be in the room with them.

We don't want our kids to live a sheltered life, but a guided life. We don't want them to be callous, but caring. We don't want them to be cool, we want them to be respectful.

We talk about Satan, murder, manipulation, and mind games, even( believe it or not) homosexuality. That doesn't mean I want them diving head first into a graphic film dealing with these subjects.

Even a movie as significant as Saving Private Ryan is, IMHO, too graphic for them. In due time we will watch it. They deserve to have their childhood.

[slorch]

Tayb, you do realize you voted for all and none, right?

I voted "no" on each of them.

[slorch]

let my kid watch what ever he wants, good parenting can teach a kid decent morals and the difference between reality and illusion.

If ur the type of parent to blame media, games, and music choose away.

I agree with you here.

I freaking hate the excuse of blaming music or videogames for violence and bad behavior.

I don't allow our kids to watch the grphic movies and such, but they do have some of the military games and Halo. We do not own GTA or any games like that, although they have played it at my brother's house.

I do limit the kind of movies they watch, but that is because we feel the graphic nature is just too much for them right now. i think my oldest one could handle most of the ones on this thread, but we'd rather err on the side of caution.

To your point, they can discern the difference between fantasy(games) and reality. I listened to all kinds of music growing up and amazingly, I had an otherwise normal childhood. Just like the idiots that sue McDonald's for burning their lap with hot coffee, these dolts that sue the music or videogame industry for their kids' misconduct are just looking for a scapegoat for their own inadequacies.

[pied]

none of them are appropriate for kids under 18.

yes, really.

If they did watch any of those, i would want to be in the room with them.

We don't want our kids to live a sheltered life, but a guided life. We don't want them to be callous, but caring. We don't want them to be cool, we want them to be respectful.

We talk about Satan, murder, manipulation, and mind games, even( believe it or not) homosexuality. That doesn't mean I want them diving head first into a graphic film dealing with these subjects.

Even a movie as significant as Saving Private Ryan is, IMHO, too graphic for them. In due time we will watch it. They deserve to have their childhood.

GoOwls/Fierbird/slorch/pied pretty much in agreement. Time to lock the thread?

My kids only 8, but it's hard to see her watching any of these until she's much older. It does seem funny how the answers are pretty much drawn along parents/non parents. My parents didn't really regulate what I watched after the age of 13 or so. I don't think I am worse off for it, but don't see how it benefitted me either. All kids aer different in their maturity levels and ability to handle things.

I grew up w/much more tv/movies than my parents and the availability is only increasing.

[RedRage00]

I haven't seen them all myself. But the music from Rent is great.

This is really gay but I probably know every song from Rent lol

I've seen it on stage twice (once in SA, and once in NYC) and I'm going again when it comes to Dallas next month. I love it. :cool:

[RedRage00]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyX9zdcU0T0

That is one of the funniest clips EVER! I crack up every time I watch that clip.

[RedRage00]

How many here have actually seen Rent and/or Brokeback Mountain?

[twcpfan1]

nm wrong thread

[Miss Kitty]

am I the only one who is angry that people are seriously saying they wouldn't let their kids watch RENT?

Why are you angry about that? How many on here do you think have actually seen it? If you are talking about me, I said my child was 18 when she saw it but she already knew the music. We are a very musical family. The composition and blends of voices in the music is some of the most powerful blends ever on broadway and the cast is not big at all.

So there may be other reasons for appreciating a show like RENT that do not involve characters or subject content.

[Miss Kitty]

How many here have actually seen Rent and/or Brokeback Mountain?

I have seen RENT but not the other one.

[Firebird]

How many here have actually seen Rent and/or Brokeback Mountain?

I have seen neither, so I didn't vote for them. I can't make a judgement call on something I haven't seen.

[twcpfan1]

How many here have actually seen Rent and/or Brokeback Mountain?

Seen both. Rent is a great film. The soundtrack was awesome.

I had to switch Brokeback Mountain off about halfway through. But watched the end of it at a later date. Some parts were a little too uncomfortable. But all in all, a pretty good film.

[Firebird]

none of them are appropriate for kids under 18.

yes, really.

If they did watch any of those, i would want to be in the room with them.

We don't want our kids to live a sheltered life, but a guided life. We don't want them to be callous, but caring. We don't want them to be cool, we want them to be respectful.

We talk about Satan, murder, manipulation, and mind games, even( believe it or not) homosexuality. That doesn't mean I want them diving head first into a graphic film dealing with these subjects.

Even a movie as significant as Saving Private Ryan is, IMHO, too graphic for them. In due time we will watch it. They deserve to have their childhood.


I don't mind saying that I want my future kids to live a sheltered life to some extent, at least up to a certain age. Exposure to the "real world" is overrated.

[RedRage00]

I have seen neither, so I didn't vote for them. I can't make a judgement call on something I haven't seen.

I haven't seen most of those so I can't really say anything either.

I've seen bits and pieces of Silence of the Lamb and Pulp Fiction but I have never seen them from beginning to end. Some of those movies I have never even heard of. :eek:

[twcpfan1]

I have seen neither, so I didn't vote for them. I can't make a judgement call on something I haven't seen.

I think the Broadway touring cast of Rent will be in Houston soon. You might want to take the Mrs to go see that.

[RedRage00]

I think the Broadway touring cast of Rent will be in Houston soon. You might want to take the Mrs to go see that.

Dallas starting May 5th. I'm going :D

[Miss Kitty]

My daughter also dated a film maker for 3 years and he introduced her to the werid world of Quentin Tarantino (Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill) films. Again, it was more about the production, direction, and art of the movie than the content. She hates violent films but she enjoys the technical part of making the films. And of course the music behind the films.

[RedRage00]

I don't have kids yet, but I know by the time they are 13-16 they won't have any issues with the whole gay thing ;)

It depends on the maturity of the kid. I was very mature at 13. :D

[RedRage00]

I have seen RENT but not the other one.

"Live in my house, I'll be your shelter....just pay me back, with 1000 kisses....be my lover...and I'll cover youuuuuuuu" hahaha

[Miss Kitty]

"Live in my house, I'll be your shelter....just pay me back, with 1000 kisses....be my lover...and I'll cover youuuuuuuu" hahaha


Sorry, but I am already taken. ;)

[RedRage00]

Sorry, but I am already taken. ;)

Damn! :(


:D

[Miss Kitty]

As far as violent scenes go, the chariot race in Ben Hur is pretty bad but my kids have grown up watching it. Braveheart is one of our favorite movies.

[pied]

I have not seen Rent, but did see BM. I thought it was a very good movie that portrayed the difficult life that many people face and how they deal with it. That being said, there were several graphic scenes not appropriate for any 16 year old regardless of who was participating in the act.

[Firebird]

I have not seen Rent, but did see BM. I thought it was a very good movie that portrayed the difficult life that many people face and how they deal with it. That being said, there were several graphic scenes not appropriate for any 16 year old regardless of who was participating in the act.

Might want to reconsider using that particular abbreviation. I don't know of anyone of any age who wants to watch BM...;)

[SV61]

I have not seen Rent, but did see BM. I thought it was a very good movie that portrayed the difficult life that many people face and how they deal with it. That being said, there were several graphic scenes not appropriate for any 16 year old regardless of who was participating in the act.

BrokeBack Mountain = BM = Bowel Movement. To me, there were lots of scenes that were inappropriate for ANY year old. Before anybody gets their panties in a wad, I can say the same thing about certain scenes from Training day, and it has nothing to do with sexuality. Just the whole vibe of these movies is wrong, to me.

Just MO.

[Miss Kitty]

What was Training Day?

[pied]

Might want to reconsider using that particular abbreviation. I don't know of anyone of any age who wants to watch BM...;)

good catch

[RedRage00]

Might want to reconsider using that particular abbreviation. I don't know of anyone of any age who wants to watch BM...;)

lol

[twcpfan1]

Actually, one could probably make an argument that Brokeback Mountain and Bowel Movement are one and the same thing :D


That's disgusting :laugh

[SV61]

What was Training Day?

Denzel Washington won an Oscar for it, if memory serves.

One day ride along with a rookie cop (Ethan Hawke) and Washington's character.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139654/

[RedRage00]

Denzel Washington won an Oscar for it, if memory serves.

One day ride along with a rookie cop (Ethan Hawke) and Washington's character.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139654/

What was so bad about Training Day?

I've never seen it. Just curious.

[pied]

Actually, one could probably make an argument that Brokeback Mountain and Bowel Movement are one and the same thing :D


That's disgusting :laugh

Very similar scene in Pulp Fiction, correct?

[SV61]

What was so bad about Training Day?

I've never seen it. Just curious.

Again, just a vibe about the whole body of work, didn't sit well. It was not a movie to make you comfortable, or feel good. It was evil versus eviler (??). For me, there wasn't really anybody to root for per se.

It was critically acclaimed. Maybe that is why I didn't care for it.

:D

Maybe I should give it another try. Just as soon as I get my sock drawer organized.

[twcpfan1]

Very similar scene in Pulp Fiction, correct?

.. and Deliverance (unedited version)

[twcpfan1]

For those who have not seen Rent...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNzpl3vz5Y

[Miss Kitty]

.. and Deliverance (unedited version)

There was an unedited version? :eek:

[SV61]

.. and Deliverance (unedited version)

C'mon Fatboy, let's hear you sqeal like a pig!

:D

[stevefoxsc]

GoOwls/Fierbird/slorch/pied pretty much in agreement. Time to lock the thread?

My kids only 8, but it's hard to see her watching any of these until she's much older. It does seem funny how the answers are pretty much drawn along parents/non parents. My parents didn't really regulate what I watched after the age of 13 or so. I don't think I am worse off for it, but don't see how it benefitted me either. All kids aer different in their maturity levels and ability to handle things.

I grew up w/much more tv/movies than my parents and the availability is only increasing.

i had to do a psychology project on child development the main argument i had to disprove was video games causing anger and violence in children.

One thing I've learned was that since around 1920ish every decade something held the blame put on it. We are a society of blame though, in the 20's-40's comics were to blame 50-60's music. Skip into the 70's cartoons television 80's were movies and such. Games in 1970's were way worst then than they are now, the problem with now is we can go in more depth.

[Miss Kitty]

Okay, here is my Rent story. I got theater tickets for daughter's 18th birthday. The whole day we listened to the sound track. I thought the music was great. I had no idea what the show was about. We get to the Hobby Center and get seated, I am looking around at all of the hot men thinking how nice they smell. Just before the show starts my lovely daughter gives me a quick synopisis and all I hear is she has aids, drug use, blah blah blah. The lights dim and the show starts. As it goes along I am noticing the "closeness" of some of these men who are sitting around us and becoming more aware of my surroundings. Then I catch on to the WHOLE thing as I sit and watch the show with my jaw dropped. :eek:

But even still the music took over everything else.

[slorch]

What was so bad about Training Day?

I've never seen it. Just curious.

take Dirty Harry and combine it with the Godfather and Menace II Society.

innappropriate for kids, but a pretty good flick, IMO.

[pied]

i had to do a psychology project on child development the main argument i had to disprove was video games causing anger and violence in children.

One thing I've learned was that since around 1920ish every decade something held the blame put on it. We are a society of blame though, in the 20's-40's comics were to blame 50-60's music. Skip into the 70's cartoons television 80's were movies and such. Games in 1970's were way worst then than they are now, the problem with now is we can go in more depth.

I don't disagree all that much. What I am trying to say is that these things are much more available. Didn't have a VCR until I was in 6th grade and cable until that year either. Cable was much more limted as well. We had OnTV for a time, which was a one channel box on your tv.

One thing I think is funny is how we portray drinking/smoking now. Can you think if a family show had a guy letting himself in and out of jail being drunk like Otis on the Andy Griffith show?

What games in the 70's are you talking about?

[slorch]

How many here have actually seen Rent and/or Brokeback Mountain?


I do not have to fall off of a cliff to know it will hurt.

i do not need to see a movie about homosexuality to know that I will disagree with a lot of it, or that my kids are not mature enough to view it.

They haven't seen Blow or Traffic either.

it's not that it is just the homosexuality topic, but that it is for mature audiences.

[RedRage00]

I saw Basic Instinct when it came out in 1992 and I was 10 years old.

I turned out ok ;)

[DragonWatcher]

I saw Basic Instinct when it came out in 1992 and I was 10 years old.

I turned out ok ;)

A ****** that changed a life forever lol

[twcpfan1]

Okay, here is my Rent story. I got theater tickets for daughter's 18th birthday. The whole day we listened to the sound track. I thought the music was great. I had no idea what the show was about. We get to the Hobby Center and get seated, I am looking around at all of the hot men thinking how nice they smell. Just before the show starts my lovely daughter gives me a quick synopisis and all I hear is she has aids, drug use, blah blah blah. The lights dim and the show starts. As it goes along I am noticing the "closeness" of some of these men who are sitting around us and becoming more aware of my surroundings. Then I catch on to the WHOLE thing as I sit and watch the show with my jaw dropped. :eek:

But even still the music took over everything else.

Took my oldest daughter to see Spring Awakening recently at the Hobby Center. There were scenes of partial nudity (heterosexual) and one scene of 2 guys kissing. There were all sorts of warnings about its suitability for younger audiences. And it was clear that most of Houston decided to stay away. I feel they really missed out because it was a great show with a great soundtrack.

[KT2000]

take Dirty Harry and combine it with the Godfather and Menace II Society.

innappropriate for kids, but a pretty good flick, IMO.

Training Day was a Disney flick compared to Boyz N the Hood.

[Bass]

Training Day was a Disney flick compared to Boyz N the Hood.

Is that the one with Chris Elliot as the rap documentarian?

[KT2000]

Is that the one with Chris Elliot as the rap documentarian?

No. It was directed by John Singleton and stars a young Cuba Gooding Jr., Ice Cube, Morris Chestnut and Lawrence Fishburne. It also has Nia Long and Angela Bassett. It is a story of a kid (Gooding) growing up in south central LA. Fishburne is his dad. Great cast.

[dada]

Is that the one with Chris Elliot as the rap documentarian?

LMAO...I think you're talking about CB-4

[Miss Kitty]

No. It was directed by John Singleton and stars a young Cuba Gooding Jr., Ice Cube, Morris Chestnut and Lawrence Fishburne. It also has Nia Long and Angela Bassett. It is a story of a kid (Gooding) growing up in south central LA. Fishburne is his dad. Great cast.

Great movie in it's own disturbing way.

[KT2000]

Great movie in it's own disturbing way.

Yeah, it's Saving Private Ryan-type disturbing due to realism factor.

[Miss Kitty]

Yeah, it's Saving Private Ryan-type disturbing due to realism factor.

you are correct sir.

[SV61]

The Movie, Saving Private Ryan, actually kept me awake AFTER watching it. For whatever reason, however, I won't group it into movies that make me uncomfortable to watch. There is still a good guy and a bad guy, in my book.

I have somebody (s) to root for.

Plus, I dig the sniper, saying a prayer, and pullin the trigger!

[pied]

I loved Boyz, but think Mennace to Society was a better movie. Similar theme, but ther were no rela "good guys". The hero was sympathetic, while still doing detestable things. Don't think itLs appropriate for kids though.

[shslb15]

Growing up my parents did not allow me to see A Clockwork Orange. When I saw it (and bought it because it is a very good movie) I understood why. Who ever threw Rocky Horror Picture show out there I mean come on. I think the first time I saw that was in like 3rd or 4th grade, the Timewarp is essentially known by everyone in my family haha.

My parents were pretty easy about what movies I watched growing up. Something with way too much nudity was pretty much the only red flag until I'd say 5th or 6th grade my uncle brought over Animal House and my dad made everyone sit down and watch it.

[Miss Kitty]

Growing up my parents did not allow me to see A Clockwork Orange. When I saw it (and bought it because it is a very good movie) I understood why. Who ever threw Rocky Horror Picture show out there I mean come on. I think the first time I saw that was in like 3rd or 4th grade, the Timewarp is essentially known by everyone in my family haha.

My parents were pretty easy about what movies I watched growing up. Something with way too much nudity was pretty much the only red flag until I'd say 5th or 6th grade my uncle brought over Animal House and my dad made everyone sit down and watch it.

ha ha ha....that was me who threw the Rocky Horror out there and you are a perfect example as to why I did. You got the Time Warp out of it, but did you miss all of the drug and sexual parts of it? At your age I doubt you have experienced the whole RHPS experience but it is certainly not appropriate for a 3rd or 4th grader.

[RedRage00]

ha ha ha....that was me who threw the Rocky Horror out there and you are a perfect example as to why I did. You got the Time Warp out of it, but did you miss all of the drug and sexual parts of it? At your age I doubt you have experienced the whole RHPS experience but it is certainly not appropriate for a 3rd or 4th grader.

What about Basic Instinct for a 10 yr old lol

[KT2000]

I loved Boyz, but think Mennace to Society was a better movie. Similar theme, but ther were no rela "good guys". The hero was sympathetic, while still doing detestable things. Don't think itLs appropriate for kids though.

Have you seen City of God? I've thought about seeing it, but not a fan of graphic violence.

[SV61]

Talking about this, brings to bear, when I was a wee lad, and what movie made me AND my parents blush, as we watched it.

I was about 12 or 13, sitting in the theatre watchin this movie, with my Mother and Step Father.

I remember thinking, crap, how am I supposed to react to THIS scene, as my mother is sitting RIGHT NEXT TO ME.

The Movie?? Animal House. Man! They showed a grown up girls boobs, in a provactive scene!

THAT was a little ackward!

[RedRage00]

Talking about this, brings to bear, when I was a wee lad, and what movie made me AND my parents blush, as we watched it.

I was about 12 or 13, sitting in the theatre watchin this movie, with my Mother and Step Father.

I remember thinking, crap, how am I supposed to react to THIS scene, as my mother is sitting RIGHT NEXT TO ME.

The Movie?? Animal House. Man! They showed a grown up girls boobs, in a provactive scene!

THAT was a little ackward!

Did you put a bag of popcorn on your lap? :D

[the_phoenix612]

Why are you angry about that? How many on here do you think have actually seen it? If you are talking about me, I said my child was 18 when she saw it but she already knew the music. We are a very musical family The composition and blends of voices in the music is some of the most powerful blends ever on broadway and the cast is not big at all.

So there may be other reasons for appreciating a show like RENT that do not involve characters or subject content.

It's the bigotry that angers me. The thinking that homosexuality is something we should shelter our kids from is 18th century at best and reprehensible and wholly inappropriate.
The idea that what the majority is is what is "proper" is outdated and a disgusting trait for the nation that supposes to lead the world.

America needs to get it's head out of it's collective *** and realize that the rest of the world has moved past these ridiculous, puritanical beliefs.

[SV61]

It's the bigotry that angers me. The thinking that homosexuality is something we should shelter our kids from is 18th century at best and reprehensible and wholly inappropriate.
The idea that what the majority is is what is "proper" is outdated and a disgusting trait for the nation that supposes to lead the world.

America needs to get it's head out of it's collective *** and realize that the rest of the world has moved past these ridiculous, puritanical beliefs.

Well, that's true. America has ALWAYS done what the rest of the world wants us to do.

See: Metric System.

See: Betamax.

This is a land of conformists. It's what the country is founded on!

:D

[Miss Kitty]

It's the bigotry that angers me. The thinking that homosexuality is something we should shelter our kids from is 18th century at best and reprehensible and wholly inappropriate.
The idea that what the majority is is what is "proper" is outdated and a disgusting trait for the nation that supposes to lead the world.

America needs to get it's head out of it's collective *** and realize that the rest of the world has moved past these ridiculous, puritanical beliefs.

Oh so you are not angry that I allowed my daughter to see the movie?

As far as what the rest of the world does, I am only concerned with what I have to answer for and that is my affect on those around me and my family. What the world does or does not do, or what the world thinks is right or wrong is not my concern either, but rather, what I believe is right or wrong.

[SV61]

Oh so you are not angry that I allowed my daughter to see the movie?

As far as what the rest of the world does, I am only concerned with what I have to answer for and that is my affect on those around me and my family. What the world does or does not do, or what the world thinks is right or wrong is not my concern either, but rather, what I believe is right or wrong.

But, doesn't it take a village to raise a child??????

:rolleyes:

[SV61]

Did you put a bag of popcorn on your lap? :D

Lucky for me, I had an Ice Cold Coke in between my legs.

AND, it was dark!

:D :eek:

[Miss Kitty]

But, doesn't it take a village to raise a child??????

:rolleyes:

Yeah well luckily, I have a wonderful villiage to help raise my child. You have seen that for yourself. :)

[SV61]

Yeah well luckily, I have a wonderful villiage to help raise my child. You have seen that for yourself. :)

All looks good, cept for that RED Truck.

I mean, who would drive a RED Truck?????

:p

[Miss Kitty]

All looks good, cept for that RED Truck.

I mean, who would drive a RED Truck?????

:p

ha ha ha ha....only the best of us. ;)

[RedRage00]

All looks good, cept for that RED Truck.

I mean, who would drive a RED Truck?????

:p

I know.....ghey. And she's worried about RENT lol

[RedRage00]

It's the bigotry that angers me. The thinking that homosexuality is something we should shelter our kids from is 18th century at best and reprehensible and wholly inappropriate.
The idea that what the majority is is what is "proper" is outdated and a disgusting trait for the nation that supposes to lead the world.

America needs to get it's head out of it's collective *** and realize that the rest of the world has moved past these ridiculous, puritanical beliefs.

I don't get into this debate anymore with certain people on this site. Takes too much time and all for nothing (We are all set in our ways) lol. Things are changing and they don't like it. Funny thing is that most of their kids would probably handle it better than them. ;)

[Miss Kitty]

I know.....ghey. And she's worried about RENT lol

I am not worried about RENT. I do wish I could jump flat footed from the floor to a table in 4" platform heels like that dude did. I was jealous. :D

[RedRage00]

I am not worried about RENT. I do wish I could jump flat footed from the floor to a table in 4" platform heels like that dude did. I was jealous. :D

LMAO! :notworthy

[Miss Kitty]

I don't get into this debate anymore with certain people on this site. Takes too much time and all for nothing (We are all set in our ways) lol. Things are changing and they don't like it. Funny thing is that most of their kids would probably handle it better than them. ;)

If you could explain it to me then. God has given me the capacity to love people for who they are, and not the choices they make. I don't have to agree with everything in a person's life to love them or appreciate them as a person or to be entertained by the subject matter. So is he saying I am a bigot because I don't think homosexuality is a good thing because I enjoyed RENT? I enjoyed the Godfather too but I don't think murder is a good thing. I enjoyed Gone in Sixty Seconds, but I don't think stealing is a good thing.

So how is this any different. Why can't I choose to like someone and not like they're lifestyle without being called a bigot? Why must I agree with EVERYTHING about EVERYBODY too keep from getting this label? ( I am not saying that he called ME a bigot) I just want to understand why it is not okay to not think something is cool but be willing to look past that and see the person inside.

[dada]

I am not worried about RENT. I do wish I could jump flat footed from the floor to a table in 4" platform heels like that dude did. I was jealous. :D

Sounds like a Prince concert.

[pied]

It's the bigotry that angers me. The thinking that homosexuality is something we should shelter our kids from is 18th century at best and reprehensible and wholly inappropriate.
The idea that what the majority is is what is "proper" is outdated and a disgusting trait for the nation that supposes to lead the world.

America needs to get it's head out of it's collective *** and realize that the rest of the world has moved past these ridiculous, puritanical beliefs.


If thinking graphic anal sex is not appropriate for aa 16 year old makes one a bigot, then I guess that makes me one.

[stevefoxsc]

I don't disagree all that much. What I am trying to say is that these things are much more available. Didn't have a VCR until I was in 6th grade and cable until that year either. Cable was much more limted as well. We had OnTV for a time, which was a one channel box on your tv.

One thing I think is funny is how we portray drinking/smoking now. Can you think if a family show had a guy letting himself in and out of jail being drunk like Otis on the Andy Griffith show?

What games in the 70's are you talking about?

clusters revenge is one to name. Plot and story, you're general cluster and ur ultimate goal is just to **** Indian chicks. Angry video game nerd a reviewer known for sarcastic and humorous method did a 10 minute series on the games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmPbxfHF6jU

[RedRage00]

If you could explain it to me then. God has given me the capacity to love people for who they are, and not the choices they make. I don't have to agree with everything in a person's life to love them or appreciate them as a person or to be entertained by the subject matter. So is he saying I am a bigot because I don't think homosexuality is a good thing because I enjoyed RENT? I enjoyed the Godfather too but I don't think murder is a good thing. I enjoyed Gone in Sixty Seconds, but I don't think stealing is a good thing.

So how is this any different. Why can't I choose to like someone and not like they're lifestyle without being called a bigot? Why must I agree with EVERYTHING about EVERYBODY too keep from getting this label? ( I am not saying that he called ME a bigot) I just want to understand why it is not okay to not think something is cool but be willing to look past that and see the person inside.

I can't speak for Phoenix. Only he can.

I don't think you're a bigot, but I know you ;)

[pied]

clusters revenge is one to name. Plot and story, you're general cluster and ur ultimate goal is just to **** Indian chicks. Angry video game nerd a reviewer known for sarcastic and humorous method did a 10 minute series on the games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmPbxfHF6jU


Is that really from the 70's? Seems like a late 80's game system. Were they as mainstream as GTA for instance?

Heck pac man came out in 1980.

[GoOwls]

It's the bigotry that angers me. The thinking that homosexuality is something we should shelter our kids from is 18th century at best and reprehensible and wholly inappropriate.
The idea that what the majority is is what is "proper" is outdated and a disgusting trait for the nation that supposes to lead the world.

America needs to get it's head out of it's collective *** and realize that the rest of the world has moved past these ridiculous, puritanical beliefs.

Wow....wait 30, 40, 50 years and your ideas will be rubbish.....get ready for it....;)

What goes around, comes around.....;)

[stevefoxsc]

Is that really from the 70's? Seems like a late 80's game system. Were they as mainstream as GTA for instance?

Heck pac man came out in 1980.

well like i said gaming industry between now and then had its big boom, GTA is controversial because it honestly chooses to be. they try to push the envelope, and while the some features in the game are innovating. Its not a game I'd recommend for most parents. The game though maybe a bit in the 80's though i just say 70's due to the era and that's when Atari was bigger.

[GoOwls]

i had to do a psychology project on child development the main argument i had to disprove was video games causing anger and violence in children.

One thing I've learned was that since around 1920ish every decade something held the blame put on it. We are a society of blame though, in the 20's-40's comics were to blame 50-60's music. Skip into the 70's cartoons television 80's were movies and such. Games in 1970's were way worst then than they are now, the problem with now is we can go in more depth.

Doesn't the fact that this century had more change and technological advancement than any previous century, by far, have any effect in people noticing the differences in generations more readily and those generations perceptions of society....I mean, the changes have been happening almost on a daily basis, while the 1800's were almost static, by comparison.

Sure, people get scared when change happens so fast....there is nothing in human history that matches the changes of the last century...except for the changes this century.

[GoOwls]

I saw Basic Instinct when it came out in 1992 and I was 10 years old.

I turned out ok ;)

Opinion of Red.....;)

[RedRage00]

If thinking graphic anal sex is not appropriate for aa 16 year old makes one a bigot, then I guess that makes me one.

What movie were you watching? lol

[stevefoxsc]

Doesn't the fact that this century had more change and technological advancement than any previous century, by far, have any effect in people noticing the differences in generations more readily and those generations perceptions of society....I mean, the changes have been happening almost on a daily basis, while the 1800's were almost static, by comparison.

Sure, people get scared when change happens so fast....there is nothing in human history that matches the changes of the last century...except for the changes this century.

Good point, but here be the catcher. Columbine for instance, tried to emphasize gun control needed to be stronger and stricter and even gave some people the idea that we needed no guns period. Others tried to use games as a blame, Marlyn Manson was a big blame figure as well. Thing is though, 1 they hated Marlyn Manson, 2 they weren't hard core gamers just casual, 3 they would have gotten a gun no matter what.

Like i said people love to blame things for answers, we're a nation of blame at times.

[pied]

What movie were you watching? lol


Brokeback Mountain and Pulp Fiction.

[GoOwls]

Good point, but here be the catcher. Columbine for instance, tried to emphasize gun control needed to be stronger and stricter and even gave some people the idea that we needed no guns period. Others tried to use games as a blame, Marlyn Manson was a big blame figure as well. Thing is though, 1 they hated Marlyn Manson, 2 they weren't hard core gamers just casual, 3 they would have gotten a gun no matter what.

Like i said people love to blame things for answers, we're a nation of blame at times.

Here is my catcher back at you.....I don't think video games make kids/people violent.....I think some kids who have a violent nature are negatively affected by violent video games, violent movies, and negative figures like Marlyn Manson...kids who have parent/issus and guidance issues and are left to find their role models on their own....the jails and cemetaries are littered with them and their victims.

[RedRage00]

Brokeback Mountain and Pulp Fiction.

I've never seen Pulp Fiction. But graphic anal sex in Brokeback? Where? I must have missed that. The tent sex scene? They didn't show anything. I was actually dissapointed they didn't show more. lol Maybe I'll watch it again tonight just to see what was so graphic about it.

People act like its gay porn when there is very little sex (1 major sex scene & they don't even show much). It's a love story, not a porno.

[rocketgrl94]

I've never seen Pulp Fiction. But graphic anal sex in Brokeback? Where? I must have missed that. The tent sex scene? They didn't show anything. I was actually dissapointed they didn't show more. lol Maybe I'll watch it again tonight just to see what was so graphic about it.

ohhh Gaaaaawd they play it all the time on Showtime or HBO....they should be showin' it on Skinamax:D....dirty movie:p

[Miss Kitty]

Good point, but here be the catcher. Columbine for instance, tried to emphasize gun control needed to be stronger and stricter and even gave some people the idea that we needed no guns period. Others tried to use games as a blame, Marlyn Manson was a big blame figure as well. Thing is though, 1 they hated Marlyn Manson, 2 they weren't hard core gamers just casual, 3 they would have gotten a gun no matter what.

Like i said people love to blame things for answers, we're a nation of blame at times.

I think it is a cycle. A terrible cycle. Do games influence, sure they do. But I believe it is up to the parents to limit access and play time. And that has to start when they are little. Parent involvement and lots of it. Unfortunately, technology, although has many great uses, is so often misused. And in many cases is used as a baby sitter. That baby won't be quiet so put him/her in front of a video. The small child gets bored on a trip, so hand him/her a video game instead of encouraging them to read, or enjoy looking for shapes in the clouds, or interesting things outside. Moms are busy, dads are busy and it is not as save to just let your kids play outside so you let them game and you think that is the safe alternative. No, going outside with them, taking your face out of that book while you are on that car trip, and making up road games with your child, or just letting them learn that sometimes life is just boring and you don't get to be entertained 24/7.

So there is always blame to be had, but it is not always put in the right place. I am not a perfect parent, and although I have not always been able to give my kids material things they wanted, I have always tried to give them what they needed and that is my time and attention. Even if they don't think they need it at the time.

So yes, I do think games are part of the problem but only because they have so much exposure to them and are not guided.

[GoOwls]

I've never seen Pulp Fiction. But graphic anal sex in Brokeback? Where? I must have missed that. The tent sex scene? They didn't show anything. I was actually dissapointed they didn't show more. lol Maybe I'll watch it again tonight just to see what was so graphic about it.

People act like its gay porn when there is very little sex (1 major sex scene & they don't even show much). It's a love story, not a porno.

It seems Ok to you because it seems natural to you....90% of the population is kinda grossed out by it......cool to you...porn to most.....;)

[pied]

Yes I am talking about the tent scene and realize it is not on par w/porn. I would suggest that when a partner uses spit in their hand to lubricate their partner, that you might consider it graphic.

[Miss Kitty]

Yes I am talking about the tent scene and realize it is not on par w/porn. I would suggest that when a partner uses spit in their hand to lubricate their partner, that you might consider it graphic.

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!:Music la la la la la la la la

[Mysteryman]

Yes I am talking about the tent scene and realize it is not on par w/porn. I would suggest that when a partner uses spit in their hand to lubricate their partner, that you might consider it graphic.

I had to double check and make sure this was the right website. Yep, say's it up top, 5A Texas Football. You guys threw me off. <smile>

[Miss Kitty]

I had to double check and make sure this was the right website. Yep, say's it up top, 5A Texas Football. You guys threw me off. <smile>

Well SNAP! They didn't run you off yesterday. I was wondering. LOL

[slorch]

My kids aren't particularly comfortable with hetero scenes either if that makes you feel better.

That's the part about having a childhood that I am talking about.

What's the rush to expose(pun) them to such adult behavior?

[Miss Kitty]

My kids aren't particularly comfortable with hetero scenes either if that makes you feel better.

That's the part about having a childhood that I am talking about.

What's the rush to expose(pun) them to such adult behavior?

I agree 100%

[RedRage00]

My kids aren't particularly comfortable with hetero scenes either if that makes you feel better.

That's the part about having a childhood that I am talking about.

What's the rush to expose(pun) them to such adult behavior?

Oh, I'm not telling anyone how to raise their kids. That is their decision. I stated way back in the beginning of this thread that I felt its based on the maturity level of the kid. I was always a mature kid and I understood that movies are just that...movies.

I agree, that Rent deals with somewhat of mature level things such as drugs, aids, etc....but Brokeback? lol. That is a love story. Regardless of the one sex scene (that really doesn't show anything. Believe me, I was disappointed) there is really nothing else but a love story. Don't let your kids watch Titanic...Jack & Rose get it on in the car below :rolleyes:

[slorch]

Here is my catcher back at you.....I don't think video games make kids/people violent.....I think some kids who have a violent nature are negatively affected by violent video games, violent movies, and negative figures like Marlyn Manson...kids who have parent/issus and guidance issues and are left to find their role models on their own....the jails and cemetaries are littered with them and their victims.

It's like saying Lawrence Taylor was a hard hitter because of the music he listened to. Kids do those bad, terrible things because that's who they are, not because of the music or videogames they listened to.

We fought like hell when we were kids. we listened to the hardest music we could find( usually KISS, Black Sabbath, ect,) and we play Dungeons and Dragons and everything else that is supposed to make you a deviant. Guess what, we never were so much as arrested. I have not been in a fight since college days. All three of us would be what anyone would consider normal productive adults.

Either the music/ games make you do bad things, or your character does. Which is it?

[dada]

Oh, I'm not telling anyone how to raise their kids. That is their decision. I stated way back in the beginning of this thread that I felt its based on the maturity level of the kid. I was always a mature kid and I understood that movies are just that...movies, and not real life.

I agree, that Rent deals with somewhat of mature level things such as drugs, aids, etc....but Brokeback? lol. That is a love story. Regardless of the one sex scene (that really doesn't show anything. Believe me, I was disappointed) there is really nothing else but a love story. Don't let your kids watch Titanic...Jack & Rose get it on in the car below :rolleyes:

I'm mature......but I'm still not ready to see two hotdogs in one bun.:D

[slorch]

Oh, I'm not telling anyone how to raise their kids. That is their decision. I stated way back in the beginning of this thread that I felt its based on the maturity level of the kid. I was always a mature kid and I understood that movies are just that...movies.

I agree, that Rent deals with somewhat of mature level things such as drugs, aids, etc....but Brokeback? lol. That is a love story. Regardless of the one sex scene (that really doesn't show anything. Believe me, I was disappointed) there is really nothing else but a love story. Don't let your kids watch Titanic...Jack & Rose get it on in the car below :rolleyes:

They have watched Titanic, and they have not seen the painting or car scene.

so there, i have my consistency.;):D

[RedRage00]

I'm mature......but I'm still not ready to see two hotdogs in one bun.:D

Dude, they didn't even show that. I wish they would have shown that....lol

[Miss Kitty]

I'm mature......but I'm still not ready to see two hotdogs in one bun.:D

:confused:

[Miss Kitty]

Dude, they didn't even show that. I wish they would have shown that....lol

You are just Mr. Filthy McNasty.

[dada]

:confused:

Close your eyes.....picture a hotdog bun....with two weiners in it...side by side....


Doesn't look fight does it?

[Miss Kitty]

Close your eyes.....picture a hotdog bun....with two weiners in it...side by side....


Doesn't look fight does it?

No, but all I can think of is a foot long hotdog.

[dada]

No, but all I can think of is a foot long hotdog.

naaaa.....I won't say it.:D

[the_phoenix612]

If thinking graphic anal sex is not appropriate for aa 16 year old makes one a bigot, then I guess that makes me one.

Thinking homosexual sex is any different than heterosexual sex makes you a bigot.

[Favpack]

I voted for the Exorcist just because it's so evil.

Beyond that - not sure that these movies are "worse" than the prime time trash a 13 year old should not be watching.

[Miss Kitty]

Thinking homosexual sex is any different than heterosexual sex makes you a bigot.

why?

[slorch]

Thinking homosexual sex is any different than heterosexual sex makes you a bigot.

or just straight...

[KT2000]

This is getting into territory not suited for this board. Take the sex discussions to PM/e-mail.

[GoOwls]

It's like saying Lawrence Taylor was a hard hitter because of the music he listened to. Kids do those bad, terrible things because that's who they are, not because of the music or videogames they listened to.

We fought like hell when we were kids. we listened to the hardest music we could find( usually KISS, Black Sabbath, ect,) and we play Dungeons and Dragons and everything else that is supposed to make you a deviant. Guess what, we never were so much as arrested. I have not been in a fight since college days. All three of us would be what anyone would consider normal productive adults.

Either the music/ games make you do bad things, or your character does. Which is it?

Your character does it, but if you do something negative long enough, it becomes your character.

[GoOwls]

Dude, they didn't even show that. I wish they would have shown that....lol

I don't how it is with you fellers :D, but with this hetro dude, I'd find much more sexuality in what you don't see and is suggested in a well shot PG-13/R movie situation, than what you see outright in a soft porn situatuion.

Believe me, kids know way too much already...they are no dummies....they know exactly what's going on in Brokeback, just like they do in Titanic, and it may be even more stimulation than if it was graphic.....people are curious about what we can't see...the immagination takes over....THAT is when it gets out of hand, when the immagination takes over, for a kid.

[Miss Kitty]

I don't how it is with you fellers :D, but with this hetro dude, I'd find much more sexuality in what you don't see and is suggested in a well shot PG-13/R movie situation, than what you see outright in a soft porn situatuion.

Believe me, kids know way too much already...they are no dummies....they know exactly what's going on in Brokeback, just like they do in Titanic, and it may be even more stimulation than if it was graphic.....people are curious about what we can't see...the immagination takes over....THAT is when it gets out of hand, when the immagination takes over, for a kid.

Not just for kids. :D

[GoOwls]

Sorry KT, didn't see your post....I'm out...;)

[the_phoenix612]

why?

Hating/being disgusted by an action particular to a minority, while being fine with the comparable action from your majority makes you a bigot.

You're being discriminatory because you don't agree.

Which is a perfectly natural, very human thing to do, but it does make you a bigot. Most people are bigots in some form or another. Don't take it too harshly :D

[twcpfan1]

American History X and American Me are probably ones that we can bring in to this discussion as well.

[GoOwls]

Hating/being disgusted by an action particular to a minority, while being fine with the comparable action from your majority makes you a bigot.

You're being discriminatory because you don't agree.

Which is a perfectly natural, very human thing to do, but it does make you a bigot. Most people are bigots in some form or another. Don't take it too harshly :D

Well then, please enlighten us as to your particular form/forms of bigotry....you do have flaws, don't you...;)

[slorch]

American History X and American Me are probably ones that we can bring in to this discussion as well.

true. My oldest has seen AM Hist X( the TV version, so no, he didn't see the real opening scene), and we have had several conversations about racism and reform, and realizing the responsibility we have as communicators and leaders within our peer groups. that is the value of watching a such a deep movie with someone that is going to steer him in the right direction.

[the_phoenix612]

Well then, please enlighten us as to your particular form/forms of bigotry....you do have flaws, don't you...;)

I hate the way Indian people smell.

The TA's for my physics lab reek of curry, and I always have an empty stomach when I go, and it makes me nauseous. I also don't like how they make no effort to communicate properly, and if you call them on a mistake, they play up their language barrier.

[Miss Kitty]

Hating/being disgusted by an action particular to a minority, while being fine with the comparable action from your majority makes you a bigot.

You're being discriminatory because you don't agree.

Which is a perfectly natural, very human thing to do, but it does make you a bigot. Most people are bigots in some form or another. Don't take it too harshly :D

Well I am a bigot then I guess. Although, I don't let my daughter even watch Family Guy because of it's mature nature. And the two movies that disgusted me the most this past year were Knocked Up and the one that was titled (name) and (name) make a porno. As much as I can shield my child from the contents of a movie, Hollywood took that power away from me by putting the contents in the title which prompted questions that would have probably not come up until a later time in her life. So I don't like it from either group I guess.

[dada]

This is getting into territory not suited for this board. Take the sex discussions to PM/e-mail.

Nooooooo...don't do that either:D

[GoOwls]

I hate the way Indian people smell.

The TA's for my physics lab reek of curry, and I always have an empty stomach when I go, and it makes me nauseous. I also don't like how they make no effort to communicate properly, and if you call them on a mistake, they play up their language barrier.

I know a bunch of Indian people...very few reek of curry....some, but very few reek of it...but I won't criticise you for your over-generaliztions like you do with the rest of us...at least we now know you are indeed human.

[the_phoenix612]

I know a bunch of Indian people...very few reek of curry....some, but very few reek of it...but I won't criticise you for your over-generaliztions like you do with the rest of us...at least we now know you are indeed human.

Specifically, the TA's in my physics lab do. I didn't say ALL indians reek of curry, but most Indian homes do, and most Indian adults do. The kids are much better about it.

It is not something I'm proud of...

[the_phoenix612]

Well I am a bigot then I guess. Although, I don't let my daughter even watch Family Guy because of it's mature nature. And the two movies that disgusted me the most this past year were Knocked Up and the one that was titled (name) and (name) make a porno. As much as I can shield my child from the contents of a movie, Hollywood took that power away from me by putting the contents in the title which prompted questions that would have probably not come up until a later time in her life. So I don't like it from either group I guess.

how old are your kids?

[abileneeagles311]

most of them

[twcpfan1]

I know a bunch of Indian people...very few reek of curry....some, but very few reek of it...but I won't criticise you for your over-generaliztions like you do with the rest of us...at least we now know you are indeed human.

Pretty sure Phoenix was just making a point. At least I would hope he was

Read his next post. Well, maybe not.

My daughter goes to the Academy of Science and Technology at College Park. A good portion of kids who make the program are Indian or Asian. She's friends with a lot of them. Never heard any such complaints. Some of these comments are very unkind and need to be kept to ones self.

[the_phoenix612]

Pretty sure Phoenix was just making a point. At least I would hope he was

Read his next post. Well, maybe not.

no, I actually resent that very small slice of the population :[

Just like GoOwls hates gay people, liberals, and anyone under the age of 50.

:D

[Miss Kitty]

Hating/being disgusted by an action particular to a minority, while being fine with the comparable action from your majority makes you a bigot.

You're being discriminatory because you don't agree.

Which is a perfectly natural, very human thing to do, but it does make you a bigot. Most people are bigots in some form or another. Don't take it too harshly :D

But wouldn't a person be a bigot if they didn't like another person as opposed to not liking another person's actions? You can like a person and not particularly like their actions.

[Miss Kitty]

how old are your kids?

23, 22, 12 and of course it is the 12 year old I am talking about with the two more current movies.

[the_phoenix612]

23, 22, 12 and of course it is the 12 year old I am talking about with the two more current movies.

The way I look at it is that if you are uncomfortable with the idea that your kids know about different lifestyles, then yours is too narrow. There is nothing wrong with knowing about the way other people live.

If you truly think yours is the best way to live, then you should be able to defend it, instead of trying to hide the rest of the world...

But the 12 year old, I understand the restrictions for now....

[GoOwls]

Specifically, the TA's in my physics lab do. I didn't say ALL indians reek of curry, but most Indian homes do, and most Indian adults do. The kids are much better about it.

It is not something I'm proud of...

Sorry kid, here is your quote:

I hate the way Indian people smell

That, my young squire, is not a generalization, it is a specific statement.

Human you are...indeed.

[rocketgrl94]

This is getting into territory not suited for this board. Take the sex discussions to PM/e-mail.

uhhh no definately not:D:rolleyes:

[slorch]

The way I look at it is that if you are uncomfortable with the idea that your kids know about different lifestyles, then yours is too narrow. There is nothing wrong with knowing about the way other people live.

If you truly think yours is the best way to live, then you should be able to defend it, instead of trying to hide the rest of the world...

But the 12 year old, I understand the restrictions for now....

knowing =/= accepting

[GoOwls]

no, I actually resent that very small slice of the population :[

Just like GoOwls hates gay people, liberals, and anyone under the age of 50.

:D

Hey...I got 4 cousins I love very much and 2 people I work with, one for 20 years, a number of customers, and Redrage who are gay and they all like me....they don't think I'm a bigot...be fair..

BTW, I don't hate anybody...I disagree with a number of people, but I don't hate...it would be agasinst my upbringing to do so and dishonor my parent's teachings and my God.

My wife is 49.....wrong again....:D

[CyFallsMom]

I just voted and I voted for all of them. However, I used to go to the drive-in like every Monday night for $1 carload and every time, the other side would be showing X-Rated films while we were watching Disney movies...that always made me laugh. My parents didn't tell us what we could or couldn't watch so they posed no challenge for us. We usually just went to sleep to the smell of the Mosquito Pic anyway (baby boomers will understand that one!!). I was into Disney, Doris Day and Cary Grant movies! I think that now teens don't need these types of movies on top of everything going on in the world right now. They need positive role models, not a crazy taxi-driver or someone blowing their brains out. My kids, too, were allowed to watch whatever they wanted and they all love the old black and white movies or those crazy 60's flicks. Now, being young adults, they will go see the action thriller slasher type movies but, having been to Universal so many times, they understand it's just a movie. They still like the old ones though - The other night my daughter walked in and went "OMG - SABRINA!!" and sat down to watch it with us.

[DragonWatcher]

Phoenix, pied is right about the graphic nature of Brokeback and pulp is why a 13-16 year old shouldn't see it. Brokeback mountain is a great movie, but the three sex scenes in it are pretty graphic, the one in the tent being extremely graphic. There's no way I'd let a kid that age see that movie, theres also no way I'd let a kid that age watch Eyes Wide Shut either. Some things don't have to do with bigotry but simple graphicness. There's a difference between Titanic and those movies.

[stevefoxsc]

Thinking homosexual sex is any different than heterosexual sex makes you a bigot.

we get it you like dudes cool story bro.

[twcpfan1]

I just voted and I voted for all of them. However, I used to go to the drive-in like every Monday night for $1 carload and every time, the other side would be showing X-Rated films while we were watching Disney movies...that always made me laugh. My parents didn't tell us what we could or couldn't watch so they posed no challenge for us. We usually just went to sleep to the smell of the Mosquito Pic anyway (baby boomers will understand that one!!). I was into Disney, Doris Day and Cary Grant movies! I think that now teens don't need these types of movies on top of everything going on in the world right now. They need positive role models, not a crazy taxi-driver or someone blowing their brains out. My kids, too, were allowed to watch whatever they wanted and they all love the old black and white movies or those crazy 60's flicks. Now, being young adults, they will go see the action thriller slasher type movies but, having been to Universal so many times, they understand it's just a movie. They still like the old ones though - The other night my daughter walked in and went "OMG - SABRINA!!" and sat down to watch it with us.

I wish they charge by the carload in Australian drive in movies when I was growing up. I would not have had to get in the trunk so many times to sneak in to watch a movie. :D I remember one time we had a station wagon and ended up putting one kid under the seat cushion. He was small enough to suck it up until we got parked. True story. The 70's were fun :D

[twcpfan1]

Interesting question. What about the scenes of graphic violence in The Passion of the Christ. Allow or off limits?

[pied]

Phoenix, pied is right about the graphic nature of Brokeback and pulp is why a 13-16 year old shouldn't see it. Brokeback mountain is a great movie, but the three sex scenes in it are pretty graphic, the one in the tent being extremely graphic. There's no way I'd let a kid that age see that movie, theres also no way I'd let a kid that age watch Eyes Wide Shut either. Some things don't have to do with bigotry but simple graphicness. There's a difference between Titanic and those movies.

There was a very graphc scene in Rob Roy as well. Also inappropriate for the ages we are talking about(in my opinion).

[svhorns]

16 years old?!?!?! I'm sure he has seen enough in school and around his friends that a movie wouldn't be anything to be shocked about. At 16, lets be real here fellas, we were at the stage of experimenting sexually some advancing further than others... I think if you want to censor you child from seeing gay sex then that is your choice... I just think you might have a problem with the act of being gay rather than what's actually going on the movie.

[twcpfan1]

There was a very graphc scene in Rob Roy as well. Also inappropriate for the ages we are talking about(in my opinion).

It's not as much the graphic scenes as it is the principals involved in the scene. Whether we want to admit it or not, the thought of 2 dudes together grosses most people out.

[twcpfan1]

How would you guys feel if your local high school puts on a production of Rent? I believe some Performing Arts High Schools have done it. Dont know about regular high schools

[yallerjacket2]

I haven't seen all of them, but I voted no on all of the ones I have seen. There is no way I would allow any of my kids to watch any of these movies. Even when they are 18, they'll have to watch them without me....and not tell me about it.

[mad_fan]

You can pick more than one. The single, young and childless can vote too. Let's do it for the age group 13 - 16.

Voted...
But I'll add...when I was 13-16...I'd watch any of these...
I first saw a clockwork orange with a girl...:D

[Miss Kitty]

Interesting question. What about the scenes of graphic violence in The Passion of the Christ. Allow or off limits?

Allow

[Miss Kitty]

How would you guys feel if your local high school puts on a production of Rent? I believe some Performing Arts High Schools have done it. Dont know about regular high schools

The play would not happen but they have done some of the music which was where my daughter was introduced to it.

[Miss Kitty]

Voted...
But I'll add...when I was 13-16...I'd watch any of these...
I first saw a clockwork orange with a girl...:D

Me too :D

[mad_fan]

Me too :D

With a girl!!!:):D:)
...
that's mad...in the middle...

[slorch]

Interesting question. What about the scenes of graphic violence in The Passion of the Christ. Allow or off limits?

not watching that with the kids.

Honestly, most adults cannot fathom the reality of what He went through.

[DragonWatcher]

How would you guys feel if your local high school puts on a production of Rent? I believe some Performing Arts High Schools have done it. Dont know about regular high schools

I'd have no problem with it at all. My point about BB Mountain was that it was way to graphic for a 13 year old. I might, might let a 16 year old see it if I was there also. I think it was hands down the best movie that year, and easily in the top 5 movies of the last 7-10 years, it was a travesty that Crash one best picture.

[slorch]

It's not as much the graphic scenes as it is the principals involved in the scene. Whether we want to admit it or not, the thought of 2 dudes together grosses most people out.

someone needs to tell that to whomever calls the Longhorn games this fall...

just sayin...:rolleyes::mad:

[DragonWatcher]

Interesting question. What about the scenes of graphic violence in The Passion of the Christ. Allow or off limits?

Nope plus I'd save them from seeing a pretty terrible movie.

[Firebird]

It's like saying Lawrence Taylor was a hard hitter because of the music he listened to. Kids do those bad, terrible things because that's who they are, not because of the music or videogames they listened to.

We fought like hell when we were kids. we listened to the hardest music we could find( usually KISS, Black Sabbath, ect,) and we play Dungeons and Dragons and everything else that is supposed to make you a deviant. Guess what, we never were so much as arrested. I have not been in a fight since college days. All three of us would be what anyone would consider normal productive adults.

Either the music/ games make you do bad things, or your character does. Which is it?


WTF?:eek:

Am I the only one that noticed slorch admitting to being a level 49 grand elf warrior or whatever?

I dunno, I just never figured slorch for the mom's basement crowd......

[EagleDude73]

Kids are returded until they reach about 30.

[DragonWatcher]

WTF?:eek:

Am I the only one that noticed slorch admitting to being a level 49 grand elf warrior or whatever?

I dunno, I just never figured slorch for the mom's basement crowd......

He seems more like a Great Mage type to me.

[shslb15]

ha ha ha....that was me who threw the Rocky Horror out there and you are a perfect example as to why I did. You got the Time Warp out of it, but did you miss all of the drug and sexual parts of it? At your age I doubt you have experienced the whole RHPS experience but it is certainly not appropriate for a 3rd or 4th grader.

The movie should never be shown to a 3rd or 4th grader but my parents didn't seem to care.And being so young of course that wasn't noticed. But of course over time that became more obvious. I was going to try and go one night in austin last semester but didn't have the time too, im sure in austin it would be quite an experience even now after the whole cult following has kinda passed some.

[slorch]

WTF?:eek:

Am I the only one that noticed slorch admitting to being a level 49 grand elf warrior or whatever?

I dunno, I just never figured slorch for the mom's basement crowd......

I know this is going to sound Lonny-esque( and I mean that as a complement to him) but my only character that I ever used was a Christian druid/ cleric.

My guy was the tough-guy that Providence should have as their mascot...;):D

[slorch]

He seems more like a Great Mage type to me.

there ya go...:D

[Miss Kitty]

The movie should never be shown to a 3rd or 4th grader but my parents didn't seem to care.And being so young of course that wasn't noticed. But of course over time that became more obvious. I was going to try and go one night in austin last semester but didn't have the time too, im sure in austin it would be quite an experience even now after the whole cult following has kinda passed some.

I have been in the last few months and it has turned into more of a goth fest now. :(

[RedRage00]

I'm gonna have to watch some of these. I've never seen the Clockwork Orange and the Deer Hunter, and that Taxi movie.

Should I be scared?

[slorch]

I'm gonna have to watch some of these. I've never seen the Clockwork Orange and the Deer Hunter, and that Taxi movie.

Should I be scared?

IMO, deerhunter is the most likely to work on your mind.

There are some of the most graphic mentally torturous scenes in movie history.. There are things in that movie that i still think about and just shake my head in disbelief. Very, very powerful.

[SV61]

I'm gonna have to watch some of these. I've never seen the Clockwork Orange and the Deer Hunter, and that Taxi movie.

Should I be scared?

I actually watched Taxi Driver, at a real young age. I need to watch it again, for I don't remember all the parts of it. I was probably not more than 13. I'm okay.

Really.

What was that?

I'll be back.

[Miss Kitty]

IMO, deerhunter is the most likely to work on your mind.

There are some of the most graphic mentally torturous scenes in movie history.. There are things in that movie that i still think about and just shake my head in disbelief. Very, very powerful.

What is it about. I am thinking, not like Bambi? Although that had a disturbing scene as well. :(

[ktCarl]

IMO, deerhunter is the most likely to work on your mind.

There are some of the most graphic mentally torturous scenes in movie history.. There are things in that movie that i still think about and just shake my head in disbelief. Very, very powerful.

For my wifey Clockwork Orange was too violent. To this day Beethoven's music and the show tune 'Singing In The Rain' gives her the creeps.

[Miss Kitty]

For my wifey Clockwork Orange was too violent. To this day Beethoven's music and the show tune 'Singing In The Rain' gives her the creeps.

It has been so long since I have seen this movie. I guess I am going to have to watch it again. I had forgotten about the Singin' In the Rain thing.

[shslb15]

For my wifey Clockwork Orange was too violent. To this day Beethoven's music and the show tune 'Singing In The Rain' gives her the creeps.

One of my roommates (a 20 year old guy) was too creeped out to finish it. I am the blockbuster of my appartment and he asked to borrow a movie and I suggested Clockwork Orange, he came back an hour and a half later wanting a different movie.

How about another Kubrick movie, Full Metal Jacket, is the "historical value" enough to allow a parent to show their kids the movie? or is the opening scene with R Lee Ermey's "authentic" verbal bashing filled with more :Censor: then a whole lot of movies too much? or the scene were Pile goes coo coo? or the kid sniper at the end? I will say that I saw this movie at a relatively young age probably around 6th or 7th grade. My dad always loved showing me movies he considered to be classics (Blazing Saddles, Caddy Shack, RHPS, Full Metal Jacket, Animal House etc.)

[Miss Kitty]

We have touched on violence and sex in movies as being red flags, but what about language? That is a huge red flag to me. Especially when the Lords name is taken in vain. It makes my stomach churn faster than anyting else. Language is the first barrier for me when it comes to choosing movies that my child will see.

[SV61]

We have touched on violence and sex in movies as being red flags, but what about language? That is a huge red flag to me. Especially when the Lords name is taken in vain. It makes my stomach churn faster than anyting else. Language is the first barrier for me when it comes to choosing movies that my child will see.


Well, NOW, you are just being a bigot, toward people that take the Lords name in vain. You are obviously being biased against people that do NOT respect your view, religion, or choice.

I don't what I am gonna do with you!

It is funny, for when I get really, Really, REALLY, mad, I MIGHT take the Lord's name (My Lord is named God, BTW) in vain. Why is that?

[pied]

We have touched on violence and sex in movies as being red flags, but what about language? That is a huge red flag to me. Especially when the Lords name is taken in vain. It makes my stomach churn faster than anyting else. Language is the first barrier for me when it comes to choosing movies that my child will see.

language doesn't really bother me, but it does Mrs. pied, so that's the way it rolls at our house. The D-word is dumb and the S-word is stupid here for our 8 year old.

[stevefoxsc]

We have touched on violence and sex in movies as being red flags, but what about language? That is a huge red flag to me. Especially when the Lords name is taken in vain. It makes my stomach churn faster than anyting else. Language is the first barrier for me when it comes to choosing movies that my child will see.

historically most of the common bad words f-b-s-a- aren't really bad words lets say a few wars here and there in olds conquering countries banned some languages and considered certain words bad words. other then GD the only reason f-b-s-a are called bad is well because the french said so :eek:

But when it comes to movie depends on a lot.

[Miss Kitty]

Well, NOW, you are just being a bigot, toward people that take the Lords name in vain. You are obviously being biased against people that do NOT respect your view, religion, or choice.

I don't what I am gonna do with you!

It is funny, for when I get really, Really, REALLY, mad, I MIGHT take the Lord's name (My Lord is named God, BTW) in vain. Why is that?

I don't know why that is, you just need to find another three syllable word/phrase that fits in there. Believe me that does work. You have to be concious of it for a little bit but you can replace a bad habit with a good one. I did it when I got pregnant with my oldest. I need to practice those new habits more often though. But that one GD word is the ultimate NO NO in my home.

[Miss Kitty]

historically most of the common bad words f-b-s-a- aren't really bad words lets say a few wars here and there in olds conquering countries banned some languages and considered certain words bad words. other then GD the only reason f-b-s-a are called bad is well because the french said so :eek:

But when it comes to movie depends on a lot.

I get that, but they just aren't lady like to say IMO. There are other words that aren't considered "bad" or "cuss" words that I don't like or tollerate my kids saying either. I just find it disrespectful when they do. Now the two oldest, I can't control what they do away from me, but in my prescence, they will get called down quick if their language gets too colorful because I am still the MOM.

[Firebird]

I know this is going to sound Lonny-esque( and I mean that as a complement to him) but my only character that I ever used was a Christian druid/ cleric.

My guy was the tough-guy that Providence should have as their mascot...;):D

LOL

Christian Druid is an oxymoron, btw.

[tayb]

Pants used to be a "bad" word.

Curse words are so overrated and stupid. Bad because I'm told they are bad. Don't say the lords name in vain and that is where it stops for me. I will respect other people who do not wish to be cursed around though.

[Miss Kitty]

Pants used to be a "bad" word.

Curse words are so overrated and stupid. Bad because I'm told they are bad. Don't say the lords name in vain and that is where it stops for me. I will respect other people who do not wish to be cursed around though.

respect of others is a lost attribute for so many people these days. You sound like good people to me.

[Firebird]

Pants used to be a "bad" word.

Curse words are so overrated and stupid. Bad because I'm told they are bad. Don't say the lords name in vain and that is where it stops for me. I will respect other people who do not wish to be cursed around though.

Not really. Curse words are bad both because you are "told" they are bad and because people use them as bad. People use them when they want to shock or offend, when they want to intentionally be vulgar, when they want to express extreme fury, or when they want to affect an air of being "above" vulgarity or fury or shock. That's the purpose of the word.

The movement to make no words "curse" words or "obscenities" reminds me a lot of newspeak. Once you strip words of their power to be vulgar or offensive or shocking, then in no small way you strip people of the ability to shock, or be vulgar, or be shocked, or be offended. An attempt to completely eliminate an entire category of human emotion or expression. Eliminate the association of a word or image as "vulgar" and pretty soon the concept of vulgar itself is gone. Underneath it all, I think that is the ultimate end goal. There are lots of people out there who believe quite strongly that no sort of human expression or behavior is or should be vulgar or shocking and thus they want to eliminate the concept itself.

[stevefoxsc]

With a girl!!!:):D:)
...
that's mad...in the middle...

it was out of pity, relax.

[slorch]

Pants used to be a "bad" word.

Curse words are so overrated and stupid. Bad because I'm told they are bad. Don't say the lords name in vain and that is where it stops for me. I will respect other people who do not wish to be cursed around though.

thing that bugs me about regular TV, is that they will bleep out the f word or s word, or whatever, but 5 minutes later, here comes the G-D.

It does offend me that all of the cussing is not taken out. G_D is more offensive, IMO, than any of those other words.

It still comes down to respect. hollywood lost that for us, the viewer, a long time ago. if I'm watching The Shield or some other cop movie, or American History X, i know it's going to have language for realism. I just don't like the inconsitencies in their approach to what is offensive and what is not.

[slorch]

LOL

Christian Druid is an oxymoron, btw.


I know, but it was just a game, right?

i like it that you were surprised by my playing D&D. Quite funny, indeed.

[pied]

thing that bugs me about regular TV, is that they will bleep out the f word or s word, or whatever, but 5 minutes later, here comes the G-D.

It does offend me that all of the cussing is not taken out. G_D is more offensive, IMO, than any of those other words.

It still comes down to respect. hollywood lost that for us, the viewer, a long time ago. if I'm watching The Shield or some other cop movie, or American History X, i know it's going to have language for realism. I just don't like the inconsitencies in their approach to what is offensive and what is not.


I remember Mrs. Romano saying "D*(&n't Julie" and thought that was big time.

[Miss Kitty]

I remember Mrs. Romano saying "D*(&n't Julie" and thought that was big time.

ha ha ha...so true.

[twcpfan1]

thing that bugs me about regular TV, is that they will bleep out the f word or s word, or whatever, but 5 minutes later, here comes the G-D.

It does offend me that all of the cussing is not taken out. G_D is more offensive, IMO, than any of those other words.

It still comes down to respect. hollywood lost that for us, the viewer, a long time ago. if I'm watching The Shield or some other cop movie, or American History X, i know it's going to have language for realism. I just don't like the inconsitencies in their approach to what is offensive and what is not.

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[RocklandDragon]

I watched a movie a few hours ago (should have been doin' homework--just finished it--Oops!) and this thread came to my mind.

Now I have seen House of 1000 Corpses, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Hostel and some other "horror" flicks.

But those flicks just are silly. I get bored or just irritated with them and since most of the time the plot of these films sucks something awful, I don't spend my money on them. (All they seem to do now is try to shock the audience with it's over the top gore and new sadistic ways for the victims to die.) Don't recommend young kids watching them, though...unless the kid can distinguish that movies are not meant to be taken seriously and knows not to mimick the actions of these shows.

But one movie IS actually pretty good but it is disturbing.


Apocalyto.


First off, has anyone ever seen this film? What did y'all think about this film? Some people really like it or really hate it.

The scenes of sacrifice at the top of the temple...I recommend to never, ever...ever let a child see this scene. What makes it scary is that these sacrifices really happened and I've never seen any movies portraying it as this movie does. I've read about them but to see it displayed like so...

(Although the debate is whether this follows Mayan rituals or does it follow Aztec rituals--either way, this type of sacrifice actually happened.)

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I don't know if Mel Gibson was thoroughly inaccurate in this film. Wikipedia has a balanced summary of the controversy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypto

It was a good story and you really do hate the bad guys in this film. To me, I thought it was a realistic movie but I wouldn't let young kids watch it.

Most of it is pretty graphic.

[Firebird]

I watched a movie a few hours ago (should have been doin' homework--just finished it--Oops!) and this thread came to my mind.

Now I have seen House of 1000 Corpses, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Hostel and some other "horror" flicks.

But those flicks just are silly. I get bored or just irritated with them and since most of the time the plot of these films sucks something awful, I don't spend my money on them. (All they seem to do now is try to shock the audience with it's over the top gore and new sadistic ways for the victims to die.) Don't recommend young kids watching them, though...unless the kid can distinguish that movies are not meant to be taken seriously and knows not to mimick the actions of these shows.

But one movie IS actually pretty good but it is disturbing.


Apocalyto.


First off, has anyone ever seen this film? What did y'all think about this film? Some people really like it or really hate it.

The scenes of sacrifice at the top of the temple...I recommend to never, ever...ever let a child see this scene. What makes it scary is that these sacrifices really happened and I've never seen any movies portraying it as this movie does. I've read about them but to see it displayed like so...

(Although the debate is whether this follows Mayan rituals or does it follow Aztec rituals--either way, this type of sacrifice actually happened.)

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I don't know if Mel Gibson was thoroughly inaccurate in this film. Wikipedia has a balanced summary of the controversy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypto

It was a good story and you really do hate the bad guys in this film. To me, I thought it was a realistic movie but I wouldn't let young kids watch it.

Most of it is pretty graphic.

I thought Apocalypto was a fantastic movie that got unfairly bashed due to its relationship with Mr. Gibson.

[DownSouth]

I would let any children that I'll someday have watch them all at that age. If they want to talk about any of them I'd be happy to do that as well.

Watching Taxi Driver didn't turn me into a vigilante although watching Pulp Fiction did turn me into the cool motha f'cka that I am.

Anyway, kids are babied way too damn much these days. Man up and let your kid learn life and all of the crazy sh*t that comes with it.

And since this is a Texas board I'll just mention that I DON'T believe that watching Brokeback will turn your child into a closeted, homo cowboy.:rolleyes:

Funny though how most of you fear gays being seen by your children more so than the Devil and a crazy doctor that eats his victims. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Miss Kitty]

I would let any children that I'll someday have watch them all at that age. If they want to talk about any of them I'd be happy to do that as well.

Watching Taxi Driver didn't turn me into a vigilante although watching Pulp Fiction did turn me into the cool motha f'cka that I am.

Anyway, kids are babied way too damn much these days. Man up and let your kid learn life and all of the crazy sh*t that comes with it.

And since this is a Texas board I'll just mention that I DON'T believe that watching Brokeback will turn your child into a closeted, homo cowboy.:rolleyes:

Funny though how most of you fear gays being seen by your children more so than the Devil and a crazy doctor that eats his victims. Yeah, that makes sense.


Why do you think they "fear" anything. Just because someone doesn't want to show it to their children does not mean they fear it. And perhaps it isn't the "gay" thing as much as it is the "sexual content". I wouldn't let my daughter see a woman get banged from behind by a man either. Gender has nothing to do with it.

[DownSouth]

Why do you think they "fear" anything. Just because someone doesn't want to show it to their children does not mean they fear it. And perhaps it isn't the "gay" thing as much as it is the "sexual content". I wouldn't let my daughter see a woman get banged from behind by a man either. Gender has nothing to do with it.


Cut the crap.

And a 16 year old is not a child, so let's not act like we're talking about 6 year old's here.

Every movie listed has either sexual content or violence to extreme violence in it, but the gay one got the most votes.

I'll be the Miss (Mr.) California (Florida) of this board and just say it how it seems.

[dada]

cut the crap.

And a 16 year old is not a child, so let's not act like we're talking about 6 year old's here.

Every movie listed has either sexual content or violence to extreme violence in it, but the gay one got the most votes.

I'll be the miss (mr.) california (florida) of this board and just say it how it seems.

nm

[Miss Kitty]

Cut the crap.

And a 16 year old is not a child, so let's not act like we're talking about 6 year old's here.

Every movie listed has either sexual content or violence to extreme violence in it, but the gay one got the most votes.

I'll be the Miss (Mr.) California (Florida) of this board and just say it how it seems.

Oh well, I didn't vote. And my daughter is 12 not 16 so she is what I was referencing. I can't control what my 22 and 23 year old watch anymore but I hope they make good choices.

And yes, a 16 year old is a child. You will see when you have kids of your own what I mean by that.

[slorch]

Funny though how most of you fear gays being seen by your children more so than the Devil and a crazy doctor that eats his victims. Yeah, that makes sense.

My kids don't fear homosexuality any more than they do a hetero couple mugging down in a love scene. either way, it's gross.

They haven't seen Full metal jacket yet either, because it is simply inappropriate for them at their age. It's not about fear, but respecting your kids and doing your job as a parent.

Where I think we agree( from the tone of your post) is that you cannot shelter your kids, or when they do get out in the real world, it's going to blow their minds.

[RedRage00]

I would let any children that I'll someday have watch them all at that age. If they want to talk about any of them I'd be happy to do that as well.

Watching Taxi Driver didn't turn me into a vigilante although watching Pulp Fiction did turn me into the cool motha f'cka that I am.

Anyway, kids are babied way too damn much these days. Man up and let your kid learn life and all of the crazy sh*t that comes with it.

And since this is a Texas board I'll just mention that I DON'T believe that watching Brokeback will turn your child into a closeted, homo cowboy.:rolleyes:

Funny though how most of you fear gays being seen by your children more so than the Devil and a crazy doctor that eats his victims. Yeah, that makes sense.

And what's funny is that only THREE people in here (myself included..I think Pied and Dragonwater were the only 2) have actually seen Brokeback Mountain...yet it got the most votes. :rolleyes:

[the_phoenix612]

and what's funny is that only three people in here (myself included..i think pied and dragonwater were the only 2) have actually seen brokeback mountain...yet it got the most votes. :rolleyes:

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[DownSouth]

Oh well, I didn't vote. And my daughter is 12 not 16 so she is what I was referencing. I can't control what my 22 and 23 year old watch anymore but I hope they make good choices.

And yes, a 16 year old is a child. You will see when you have kids of your own what I mean by that.


Well that does change quite a bit.

A 12 year old may not react well to most to all of these.

However, I would still alllow them to watch these movies, though I would prefer they watch it with what would be my supervision in case a scene proved too much or they wanted to better understand why something happened a certain way (if they were as young as 12).

All I can speak for is myself at this point, and at 13 I couldn't really grasp what The Deer Hunter was about but what it did for me at that age was stick in my mind so that when I was 16 and smarter I was able to watch it and actually "get it."

16 year old's may be children to the parent of that child, but most 16 year old's have sex; dabble in alcohol or drugs (not my thing when I was that age), curse (yep, def my thing:D), and do quite a few other things that 12-13 year old's would never think to do. - Sixteen is a strange age...emotionally they are children, but many tend to try and grow up too fast.

I still stand by my point about Brokeback getting the most votes for the reason that I believe it was voted for. - I've seen the movie, bored the hell out of me...not really my "type" of movie, Pulp Fiction is more my kind of flick.

[RedRage00]

Well that does change quite a bit.

A 12 year old may not react well to most to all of these.

However, I would still alllow them to watch these movies, though I would prefer they watch it with what would be my supervision in case a scene proved too much or they wanted to better understand why something happened a certain way (if they were as young as 12).

All I can speak for is myself at this point, and at 13 I couldn't really grasp what The Deer Hunter was about but what it did for me at that age was stick in my mind so that when I was 16 and smarter I was able to watch it and actuallt "get it."

16 year old's may be children to the parent of that child, but most 16 year old's have sex; dabble in alcohol or drugs (not my thing when I was that age), curse (yep, def my thing:D), and do quite a few other things that 12-13 year old's would never think to do. - Sixteen is a strange age...emotionally they are children, but many tend to try and grow up too fast.

I still stand by my point about Brokeback getting the most votes for the reason that I believe it was voted for. - I've seen the movie, bored the hell out of me...not really my "type" of movie, Pulp Fiction is more my kind of flick.

That is exactly why it got the most votes. You're right on. They just don't want to admit it....especially when only FOUR people....FIVE now, including you, have actually seen it.

[DownSouth]

My kids don't fear homosexuality any more than they do a hetero couple mugging down in a love scene. either way, it's gross.

They haven't seen Full metal jacket yet either, because it is simply inappropriate for them at their age. It's not about fear, but respecting your kids and doing your job as a parent.

Where I think we agree( from the tone of your post) is that you cannot shelter your kids, or when they do get out in the real world, it's going to blow their minds.

That would be what I was going for.

As I posted about The Deer Hunter, while watching it at 13 I just couldn't get what I was able to get at 16. At 21 (yeah, I'm a young one) its one of my favorites.

I would never preclude a child of reasonable age (very subjective) from watching a controversial movie, but I would be lenient with the hope that they would take any questions or problem's about it to me so that I could help them better understand it. - Maybe that's a bit idealistic, kid's will be kid's and there's no way around that.

[DragonWatcher]

And what's funny is that only THREE people in here (myself included..I think Pied and Dragonwater were the only 2) have actually seen Brokeback Mountain...yet it got the most votes. :rolleyes:

I voted against BB Mountain as well, not for what type of sexuality the movie had but the sheer volume of it. In my personal opinion despite the fact that watching two guys making out is gross to me personally the movie more than made up for that with a nude anne hathoway and michelle williams ;) The movie has a lot of sex is what im getting at which is why i wouldn't let a 13 year old watch it.

[DownSouth]

I voted against BB Mountain as well, not for what type of sexuality the movie had but the sheer volume of it. In my personal opinion despite the fact that watching two guys making out is gross to me personally the movie more than made up for that with a nude anne hathoway and michelle williams ;) The movie has a lot of sex is what im getting at which is why i wouldn't let a 13 year old watch it.


That's a very valid point.

[RedRage00]

I voted against BB Mountain as well, not for what type of sexuality the movie had but the sheer volume of it. In my personal opinion despite the fact that watching two guys making out is gross to me personally the movie more than made up for that with a nude anne hathoway and michelle williams ;) The movie has a lot of sex is what im getting at which is why i wouldn't let a 13 year old watch it.

I respect your opinion more than the majority in here that haven't watched it. I didn't think it was that graphic, but that's just me.

And like a 13 yr old hasn't seen a boob by then :rolleyes: They know more than you think.

I guess I'm going to have to watch it again because I don't remember it being as dirty as some people are claiming.

[DragonWatcher]

I respect your opinion more than the majority in here that haven't watched it. I didn't think it was that graphic, but that's just me.

And like a 13 yr old hasn't seen a boob by then :rolleyes: They know more than you think.

I guess I'm going to have to watch it again because I don't remember it being as dirty as some people are claiming.

See I was thinking more of the scene where heath tries to recreate his night with jake in the tent with michelle and is driving on the wrong side of the highway and she looks like she's really not enjoying it.

[pied]

The spit lube scene was graphic for a kid in my opinion.

[Miss Kitty]

That would be what I was going for.

As I posted about The Deer Hunter, while watching it at 13 I just couldn't get what I was able to get at 16. At 21 (yeah, I'm a young one) its one of my favorites.

I would never preclude a child of reasonable age (very subjective) from watching a controversial movie, but I would be lenient with the hope that they would take any questions or problem's about it to me so that I could help them better understand it. - Maybe that's a bit idealistic, kid's will be kid's and there's no way around that.

I finally saw the Deer Hunter a couple of weeks ago. I had no idea what it was about. I found it to be a slow movie for a long time. It was hard for me to watch the part in Nam because of my son being in Iraq, otherwise I have seen war prison movies that bothered me more. Still I don't see it as a good kid movie.

[the_phoenix612]

The spit lube scene was graphic for a kid in my opinion.

If they know what's happening, its already too late to shelter them.

If they don't know what it is, they won't know what's happening anyways...

[Miss Kitty]

I respect your opinion more than the majority in here that haven't watched it. I didn't think it was that graphic, but that's just me.

And like a 13 yr old hasn't seen a boob by then :rolleyes: They know more than you think.

I guess I'm going to have to watch it again because I don't remember it being as dirty as some people are claiming.

I have seen it. It wasn't graphic to you because you are into hardcore porn. :D (I am joking of course) The scenery was beautiful but the movie was boring. I spent more time trying to understand what Heath Ledger was saying than anything else. I would not let Pup see it.

[Miss Kitty]

If they know what's happening, its already too late to shelter them.

If they don't know what it is, they won't know what's happening anyways...

I know what was happening and it grossed me out.