Katy vs Northshore... What say you?

[rwilleby]

Enough of this "Out of State Crap"... Their time will come... First on the hit list for 2009 would be our friends on the East side... What's coming back and what about the winning streak?

[dada]

Enough of this "Out of State Crap"... Their time will come... First on the hit list for 2009 would be our friends on the East side... What's coming back and what about the winning streak?

Tracy Woods is Back.....and a HUGE O Line.
LB core will miss Salinas, but Kerrick Brown,Anthony Johnson,and Derrick Matthews should be solid. Alton Demby and Larry Stephens(two int's against Katy last year) returns in the secondary.

New OC so not sure how they will come out.....Woods is a beast


Yes, I've been doing my homework:cool:

[SLC93]

Enough of this "Out of State Crap"... Their time will come... First on the hit list for 2009 would be our friends on the East side... What's coming back and what about the winning streak?

The inferior streak will end at the hands of Katy this season. Their's doesn't match Carroll's, period. We had teams in our district that were ranked state top 5 during ours. We even managed a regular season 1 vs 2 during ours. The NS sos has been long debated and come up very short, until recently.

[rwilleby]

So, scale of 1 - 10... Where last year was a 5... Where do they settle in at?

[rwilleby]

The NS sos has been long debated and come up very short, until recently.

So, are you saying they don't play anybody? Ha!

[SLC93]

So, are you saying they don't play anybody? Ha!

Until recently, yes ..... please try and defend their district. Not interested in a hijack and I think Flee/Farmer have the copyright to the "competition" debate. I'm merely stating that the original record streak set by Carroll was attained against a far superior schedule. That is no open for debate. Katy took a baby faced squad into that NS game a barely lost. I think they'll take this year's game by 2 to 3 scores.

[Bass]

This one will be won by the stronger running team. Both teams will be breaking in first-year starters at QB, and both have significant experience coming back in the linebackers and secondary. Katy's special teams will be worlds ahead of where they were for this game last year and they'll have this one at home.

North Shore having a new OC hurts them a little.

I say Katy by 2-3 scores.

[rwilleby]

Until recently, yes ..... please try and defend their district. Not interested in a hijack and I think Flee/Farmer have the copyright to the "competition" debate. I'm merely stating that the original record streak set by Carroll was attained against a far superior schedule. That is no open for debate. Katy took a baby faced squad into that NS game a barely lost. I think they'll take this year's game by 2 to 3 scores.

Ha! I'm not one of the North/South strength fighters... I'm objective and know you can only play who's on the list for any given night... and on many nights the North has a tougher row to hoe... I'm one of the many Katy folks who recognize your SOS and the accomplishments made up north...

But it's funny hearing that phrase without Katy attached to it... That's all...

[rwilleby]

This one will be won by the stronger running team. Both teams will be breaking in first-year starters at QB, and both have significant experience coming back in the linebackers and secondary. Katy's special teams will be worlds ahead of where they were for this game last year and they'll have this one at home.

North Shore having a new OC hurts them a little.

I say Katy by 2-3 scores.

I'm seeing a challenge, but not a loss... If we can only gauge by last years performance and we assume there are improvements... I'm liking our odds...

[slcdragonfan]

All things aside, I think it is a difficult task to beat a team like Katy two years in a row. Gotta go with Katy on this one unless acts of nature intervene.

[SLC93]

Ha! I'm not one of the North/South strength fighters... I'm objective and know you can only play who's on the list for any given night... and on many nights the North has a tougher row to hoe... I'm one of the many Katy folks who recognize your SOS and the accomplishments made up north...

But it's funny hearing that phrase without Katy attached to it... That's all...

1) Nor am I, though I suspect we both have our beliefs. What I'm pointing out is a streak to streak comparison, nothing more. We put ours on the line every year against some power house teams and then we backed it up in the post season.

2) :D

[SLC93]

All things aside, I think it is a difficult task to beat a team like Katy two years in a row. Gotta go with North Shore on this one unless acts of nature intervene.

:confused:

[rwilleby]

All things aside, I think it is a difficult task to beat a team like Katy two years in a row. Gotta go with North Shore on this one unless acts of nature intervene.

:confused::confused: Me too...

[rwilleby]

1) Nor am I, though I suspect we both have our beliefs. What I'm pointing out is a streak to streak comparison, nothing more. We put ours on the line every year against some power house teams and then we backed it up in the post season.

2) :D

I believe your streak was/is tougher... I like us playing in the weaker Division/Bracket... More bling! There I said it...

[The King]

I think this game will be similar to last years game low scoring decided by a score or less. I would hope to see Katy win, but Im really 50/50 on who I think will win at this point.

Those of us that go will get our money's worth out of the ticket regardless of what the ticket nazi's at KISD do with the prices next season, any word on that???

[KatyPerson]

All things aside, I think it is a difficult task to beat a team like Katy two years in a row. Gotta go with North Shore on this one unless acts of nature intervene.
... :confused: Last year, we lost to North Shore. 10-6. good game tho.

[Fleeman93]

Until recently, yes ..... please try and defend their district. Not interested in a hijack and I think Flee/Farmer have the copyright to the "competition" debate. I'm merely stating that the original record streak set by Carroll was attained against a far superior schedule. That is no open for debate. Katy took a baby faced squad into that NS game a barely lost. I think they'll take this year's game by 2 to 3 scores.

You got me thinking about the quality of opponents. Is there anywhere I can get SLC's full schedule during the streak?

[slcdragonfan]

:confused:

D'oh! Fixed it. :o
Everyone is supposed to know what I meant to say, not what I wrote.

[KatyPerson]

D'oh! Fixed it. :o
Everyone is supposed to know what I meant to say, not what I wrote.
it's all good. no worries

[slcdragonfan]

You got me thinking about the quality of opponents. Is there anywhere I can get SLC's full schedule during the streak?

Here's the story in a nutshell, should sound vaguely familiar, you have been around long enough to remember how it goes:

Yep, SLC had a relatively easy district for several years, couldn't play but who was scheduled in front of us, of course you have to play your district foes, etc.

THAT SAID, then look at the post season.

[Fleeman93]

Here's the story in a nutshell, should sound vaguely familiar, you have been around long enough to remember how it goes:

Yep, SLC had a relatively easy district for several years, couldn't play but who was scheduled in front of us, of course you have to play your district foes, etc.

THAT SAID, then look at the post season.

The post season isn't part of the streak right? Aren't we just talking about the regular season streak that North Shore holds?

[BackNBlack97]

You got me thinking about the quality of opponents. Is there anywhere I can get SLC's full schedule during the streak?

I bet WOS87 has it in his team histories... ;)

[Fleeman93]

I bet WOS87 has it in his team histories... ;)

I was thinking about that but I don't know if he has opponent records or not.

[slcdragonfan]

The post season isn't part of the streak right? Aren't we just talking about the regular season streak that North Shore holds?

the regular season streak is probably what you want for your purposes....

I don't think I am gonna play in that sandbox when you open it up though, so I will just say in advance; I will put the Southlake-Carroll Dragon winning record in this decade up against anyones. It can be denigrated, downplayed, etc, but it is one which carries over into the post season, and I don't think you can truly measure the team without the post season factored in.

I for one and I am sure SLC93 as well, respect North Shore and their record, it is something of which they should be (rightly) proud. You cannot get there without doing something right. But when you couple the regular season success with post season success, it is a differentiator.

as Forest said, "...and that's all ahm goin' to say about thaut...."

[Mr. Rod]

Im hoping for a good game. NS defense is always intact. The Run always intact. As for the passing, yep were breaking in a new QB, but from what i hear this kid is good. It was a close one last year, but of course I have to go with my team. The NS nation would kill if other wise. :D Im looking forward to this game, and know that Katy will have the home field advantage, that could possibly play a factor iin the game as well. And as for the streak, I never cared in the first place, I'd rather have a state title than a streak.

[Fleeman93]

the regular season streak is probably what you want for your purposes....

I don't think I am gonna play in that sandbox when you open it up though, so I will just say in advance; I will put the Southlake-Carroll Dragon winning record in this decade up against anyones. It can be denigrated, downplayed, etc, but it is one which carries over into the post season, and I don't think you can truly measure the team without the post season factored in.

I for one and I am sure SLC93 as well, respect North Shore and their record, it is something of which they should be (rightly) proud. You cannot get there without doing something right. But when you couple the regular season success with post season success, it is a differentiator.

as Forest said, "...and that's all ahm goin' to say about thaut...."


....but it is a regular season streak so???

[rwilleby]

I'm glad we get to play you guys and hope they re-up for the next two years...

[Mr. Rod]

I'm glad we get to play you guys and hope they re-up for the next two years...

That would be nice. Maybe after the game on saturday we all go eat at Cinco Ranch's Chick-Fil-A and really piss em off. :cool:

[dada]

That would be nice. Maybe after the game on saturday we all go eat at Cinco Ranch's Chick-Fil-A and really piss em off. :cool:

LOL......good one

[The King]

That would be nice. Maybe after the game on saturday we all go eat at Cinco Ranch's Chick-Fil-A and really piss em off. :cool:

I look forward to seeing you there!:notworthy

[rwilleby]

That would be nice. Maybe after the game on saturday we all go eat at Cinco Ranch's Chick-Fil-A and really piss em off. :cool:

Ha! Or at least drive through... on our way to an after-party...

[ktCarl]

So, scale of 1 - 10... Where last year was a 5... Where do they settle in at?

That sounds like... On a scale of 1-10, how do you rate me as a lover...if 6 is as high as you can go?

[Gator4ever]

Katy should win in a close game but maybe a blowout? This should do favor in them reaching for the team of the decade. Seems they are set to take that title but only if they run the table and go 16-0. Of course this is only my opinion.

[t00 playa]

Tracy Woods is Back.....and a HUGE O Line.
LB core will miss Salinas, but Kerrick Brown,Anthony Johnson,and Derrick Matthews should be solid. Alton Demby and Larry Stephens(two int's against Katy last year) returns in the secondary.

New OC so not sure how they will come out.....Woods is a beast


Yes, I've been doing my homework:cool:

I can tell! but i think our biggest threat will be Wideout Deandrew White :eek:

[dada]

I can tell! but i think our biggest threat will be Wideout Deandrew White :eek:

What about Devante Davis?

North Shore has weapons...it will be a war

[SLC93]

The post season isn't part of the streak right? Aren't we just talking about the regular season streak that North Shore holds?

Yup.

[SLC93]

You got me thinking about the quality of opponents. Is there anywhere I can get SLC's full schedule during the streak?

Give me a few and I'll see what I can find. I know of two places to go for listings and scores but I'm not sure they'll have opponents records.

[RedRage00]

Katy will roll!

[t00 playa]

Im hoping for a good game. NS defense is always intact. The Run always intact. As for the passing, yep were breaking in a new QB, but from what i hear this kid is good. It was a close one last year, but of course I have to go with my team. The NS nation would kill if other wise. :D Im looking forward to this game, and know that Katy will have the home field advantage, that could possibly play a factor iin the game as well. And as for the streak, I never cared in the first place, I'd rather have a state title than a streak.

which is probably the thinking of many of the NS faithful... it is what it is... nothing more nothing less.... doesnt make us any better or worse...but I guess to SLC fan its still a big issue.....but i know it isnt for me... who cares.:eek:

[slcdragonfan]

which is probably the thinking of many of the NS faithful... it is what it is... nothing more nothing less.... doesnt make us any better or worse...but I guess to SLC fan its still a big issue.....but i know it isnt for me... who cares.:eek:

If you are referring to this SLC fan, then its just that I know where this is headed. and while I applaud your approach and in fact agree with it, you can't tell me (and make me believe it ;) ) that you aren't proud of your streak. It does mean something.

[ftballin11]

If you are referring to this SLC fan, then its just that I know where this is headed. and while I applaud your approach and in fact agree with it, you can't tell me (and make me believe it ;) ) that you aren't proud of your streak. It does mean something.

I learned last year that NS fans are probably the most humble on this board. I have yet to catch them boasting or bragging. I believe him. It's the local media that makes it a much bigger deal than it is.

That being said, it's still going to be sweet snapping that record.:D

[t00 playa]

If you are referring to this SLC fan, then its just that I know where this is headed. and while I applaud your approach and in fact agree with it, you can't tell me (and make me believe it ;) ) that you aren't proud of your streak. It does mean something.

Im sure it does have some bearing on the community and the program....but all it means is that in regular season, the mustangs have won a few games in a row.... other than that... what does it mean? getting into a discussion with someone trying to downplay something that is already downplayed doesnt make a whole lot of sense.... people like seeing streaks end... and im fine with that... of course it will end... thats a given....
:eek:

[Redhoss]

Tracy Woods is Back.....and a HUGE O Line.
LB core will miss Salinas, but Kerrick Brown,Anthony Johnson,and Derrick Matthews should be solid. Alton Demby and Larry Stephens(two int's against Katy last year) returns in the secondary.

New OC so not sure how they will come out.....Woods is a beast


Yes, I've been doing my homework:cool:

You need to change your name to SuperScout :notworthy

[Redhoss]

I think this game will be similar to last years game low scoring decided by a score or less. I would hope to see Katy win, but Im really 50/50 on who I think will win at this point.

Those of us that go will get our money's worth out of the ticket regardless of what the ticket nazi's at KISD do with the prices next season, any word on that???

Yes and it's not good. They left the season ticket prices at $10 each. :mad:

[rocketgrl94]

Yes and it's not good. They left the season ticket prices at $10 each. :mad:

WoW guess i wont be comin' to a game this year!.....j/k
im makin' at least one this year Katyians...for real;)

[Redhoss]

WoW guess i wont be comin' to a game this year!.....j/k
im makin' at least one this year Katyians...for real;)

hi RG, well the crazy thing is, then after the season started, they went and dropped the prices at the gate back to something like $5-6. :rolleyes:

And by the way, come on down or is that over? :D

[rocketgrl94]

hi RG, well the crazy thing is, then after the season started, they went and dropped the prices at the gate back to something like $5-6. :rolleyes:

And by the way, come on down or is that over? :D

wait you said season tickets $10 each sooo gate tickets are $5-$6..i have nothing to worry about :D
and i will be over since u invited me;)

[katyfan52]

That would be nice. Maybe after the game on saturday we all go eat at Cinco Ranch's Chick-Fil-A and really piss em off. :cool:
:notworthy:laugh:laugh:notworthy

[dada]

Yes and it's not good. They left the season ticket prices at $10 each. :mad:

$10 each????

I'm not the smartest person in the world....but 9 home games......at $10 each is $90.....why is KTfiend selling me a seat for $150?

After all the stuff I've done for Katy....especially this season*:ninja::D

*I'll be glad when KT2000 gives me the OK to spread the news.....it' hard holding this in:D

[rocketgrl94]

how many home games did Katy have last year?...it seems like Katy never leaves home....rarely:D

[ftballin11]

how many home games did Katy have last year?...it seems like Katy never leaves home....rarely:D


All there district games are at home because all of KISD uses Rhoads as its home field.

Week zero we went to NS

Week one we went to Woodz

week 3 we had a neutral game in waco with Marcus

after that all at home.

[rocketgrl94]

All there district games are at home because all of KISD uses Rhoads as its home field.

Week zero we went to NS

Week one we went to Woodz

week 3 we had a neutral game in waco with Marcus

after that all at home.

WoW lucky....dont travel much

[Bass]

WoW lucky....dont travel much
Didn't travel a lot in the playoffs, either. Farthest game was state at Reliant. Other than that, we actually drove 30 miles into town to play Smithson Valley. I thought that was pretty funny at the time.
Next year we have 9 home games. Only travel will be to Waco.

[WOS87]

I bet WOS87 has it in his team histories... ;)

Southlake Carroll's regular season record was set during their 8 years in 3A from 1986-1993 (they went 79-1 in the regular season in those 8 seasons with 71 wins in a row during one stretch). During those 71 games they beat the likes of Celina, Aledo, Gainesville, Wylie and Boyd, all of which have played in a State Championship game in the past 20 years.

It would take a bit more work to go through and look at opponents records during each and every one of those seasons though.

Galena Park North Shore has gone 87-1 in the regular season (all in 5A) since 2000 and has an active streak of 78 in a row currently with wins over the likes of The Woodlands, Katy and Lufkin, all of which have made it to the State Championship game in this decade.

I'd have to delve a bit more into opponents records each season to really try to make a comparison, but I don't really see the point as I feel each are quite remarkable feats on their own.

[ktCarl]

You need to change your name to SuperScout :notworthy

RecruitaScout. :D

[ktCarl]

$10 each????

I'm not the smartest person in the world....but 9 home games......at $10 each is $90.....why is KTfiend selling me a seat for $150?

After all the stuff I've done for Katy....especially this season*:ninja::D

*I'll be glad when KT2000 gives me the OK to spread the news.....it' hard holding this in:D


You look like a sucka!!! :D

[2smooth07]

NS has had talented teams that have gon undefeated but its like clock work when then get deep in the playoffs...This game will come down to turnovers and special teams...same story last year NS won the turnover battle but Katy held their own against NS...gon be a close game...I'd take Rings over going Whatever and 0 anyday

[The King]

wait you said season tickets $10 each sooo gate tickets are $5-$6..i have nothing to worry about :D
and i will be over since u invited me;)

They started out 10 at the gate last season then their was an uproar so the school district made a wednesday eveneing ticket sale where you could get the for 5 or 6 bucks, after that I don't remember any gate prices I always went and got mine early. If you come you should let somebody know so they can get you a ticket in advance, it will be much easier.

Oh and Katy's home stadium is in a different county than Katy high school.

[rocketgrl94]

They started out 10 at the gate last season then their was an uproar so the school district made a wednesday eveneing ticket sale where you could get the for 5 or 6 bucks, after that I don't remember any gate prices I always went and got mine early. If you come you should let somebody know so they can get you a ticket in advance, it will be much easier.

Oh and Katy's home stadium is in a different county than Katy high school.

isnt Rhoades across from Katy Mills Mall other side of the freeway?...as long as i know where it is im good
and yeah i will tell someone in advance if im going...thanks:)

[The King]

isnt Rhoades across from Katy Mills Mall other side of the freeway?...as long as i know where it is im good
and yeah i will tell someone in advance if im going...thanks:)

http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/stadium.php?id=518

Comming from San Antonio Exit Katy Fort-Bend Rd I forget the Exit number, but at Katy Fort Bend Road if you turn right (south) you will go to Katy Mills, if you turn left (north) you will drive by the visitors side of rhoads, plenty of Katy people sit over their.

The Home side is off Katyland Dr I think. The Link has a link to Googlemaps, and now it is not Enron Feild, I don't know how that go their.

[rocketgrl94]

http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/stadium.php?id=518

Comming from San Antonio Exit Katy Fort-Bend Rd I forget the Exit number, but at Katy Fort Bend Road if you turn right (south) you will go to Katy Mills, if you turn left (north) you will drive by the visitors side of rhoads, plenty of Katy people sit over their.

The Home side is off Katyland Dr I think. The Link has a link to Googlemaps, and now it is not Enron Feild, I don't know how that go their.

Cool thanks...thats easy but i still might need somebody to meet me somewhere to make sure im going in the right entrance of the stadium....i'll be by myself

[rwilleby]

Cool thanks...thats easy but i still might need somebody to meet me somewhere to make sure im going in the right entrance of the stadium....i'll be by myself

There's always a group of folks hanging around and if you get here early you can tailgate with us... We'll send a runner down to lead you in...

[rocketgrl94]

There's always a group of folks hanging around and if you get here early you can tailgate with us... We'll send a runner down to lead you in...

ya'll are sooo nice:D
i ♥ u guys;)

[rwilleby]

Everything's all fine and dandy until the whistle blows and then we turn Katy red with fire in our eyes and, well... you'll see... But up until then we can be quite sociable... Ha!

[rocketgrl94]

Everything's all fine and dandy until the whistle blows and then we turn Katy red with fire in our eyes and, well... you'll see... But up until then we can be quite sociable... Ha!

uhh yeah as i have said before...i have seen ya'll at the Alamodome wasnt a great experience with you guys:p.....but im pretty sure that was just the bad apples..sittin' by me:D;)....i know ya'll are better then that

[t00 playa]

who will be the QB for katy?:eek:

[rwilleby]

uhh yeah as i have said before...i have seen ya'll at the Alamodome wasnt a great experience with you guys:p.....but im pretty sure that was just the bad apples..sittin' by me:D;)....i know ya'll are better then that

You do know... We'll SAVE you a SEAT !!! Ha!

[rocketgrl94]

You do know... We'll SAVE you a SEAT !!! Ha!

Gracias Amigo!;):D

[Mr. Rod]

Cool thanks...thats easy but i still might need somebody to meet me somewhere to make sure im going in the right entrance of the stadium....i'll be by myself

Come to the side that's red. ;)

[ktCarl]

who will be the QB for katy?:eek:

We don't know yet. Don't be surprised to see two Katy QB's play that day.

[ktCarl]

Cool thanks...thats easy but i still might need somebody to meet me somewhere to make sure im going in the right entrance of the stadium....i'll be by myself

Maybe Dada and myself will escort you. :cool:

[rocketgrl94]

Maybe Dada and myself will escort you. :cool:

uhhh maybe:o

[svhorns]

maybe dada and myself will escort you. :cool:

lmao

[ktCarl]

lmao

Faux pas. Well....not like an escort service.

I think I scared her away from Katy.

[rocketgrl94]

Faux pas. Well....not like an escort service.

I think I scared her away from Katy.

nooo you didnt... i accept if you guys except...what in about 4 months?...my issues should be ironed out by then....i need to have a noon game though

[svhorns]

nooo you didnt... i accept if you guys except...what in about 4 months...i need to have a noon game though

You're one crazy lady...

[rocketgrl94]

You're one crazy lady...

why do you say that?...well hell u maybe right

[CaneDadCat5]

90% of the time I will pick Katy over anyone. I still think that Northshore has this one. Im considering that they were young and somewhat inexperienced. Katy has the State Championship swagger and Northshore has the "Let's prove that we are still the better team". This How it breaks down to me:

1) Offensive Line - Northshore
2) Defensive Line - Katy
3) Experience - Pickem
4) Home Field - Katy
5) Linebackers - Katy
6) Quaterback - Northshore
7) Recievers - Northshore
8) Coaching - Katy
9) Running Backs - Pickem
10) Defensive Backs - Northshore
11) Special Teams - Pickem
12) Score - Northshore 21 - Katy 20 OT

Winner - All Texas Region III Fans!

[cougmantx]

90% of the time I will pick Katy over anyone. I still think that Northshore has this one. Im considering that they were young and somewhat inexperienced. Katy has the State Championship swagger and Northshore has the "Let's prove that we are still the better team". This How it breaks down to me:

1) Offensive Line - Northshore
2) Defensive Line - Katy
3) Experience - Pickem
4) Home Field - Katy
5) Linebackers - Katy
6) Quaterback - Northshore
7) Recievers - Northshore
8) Coaching - Katy
9) Running Backs - Pickem
10) Defensive Backs - Northshore
11) Special Teams - Pickem
12) Score - Northshore 21 - Katy 20 OT

Winner - All Texas Region III Fans!

I think you are wrong...It will go something like this:

Offensive line: Katy
Defensive line: Katy
Experience: Katy
Linebackers: Katy
Quarterback: Katy
Receivers: Katy
Coaching: Katy
Running Backs: Katy
Defense Backs: Katy
Special Teams: Katy
Score: Katy 28 NS 6

[CaneDadCat5]

I think you are wrong...It will go something like this:

Offensive line: Katy
Defensive line: Katy
Experience: Katy
Linebackers: Katy
Quarterback: Katy
Receivers: Katy
Coaching: Katy
Running Backs: Katy
Defense Backs: Katy
Special Teams: Katy
Score: Katy 28 NS 6

That is what you would have said last year also. If it were a playoff game I would have given Katy the advantage. Not in the preseason. Coug we will see in about a little over 5 months.

[NSMustangProud]

Sounds like ya'll have it all figured out!

These months are dragging....I'm ready for some exciting Friday nights.

[Bass]

Offensive Line - Katy
Defensive Line - Push
Experience - Katy
Home Field - Katy
Linebackers - Katy
Quarterback - Push
Receivers - North Shore
Coaching - Katy
Running Backs - Push
Defensive Backs - North Shore
Special Teams - Katy

Score
Katy 20
North Shore 7

[ALLENFANDINGO5]

There's always a group of folks hanging around and if you get here early you can tailgate with us... We'll send a runner down to lead you in...
Im fairly new to Texas football and my first experience with Katy Football was this year's state championship and these people know how to tailgate. Hopefully we both get to tailgate before the championship this year. To respond to the thread, you should beat Northshore in a close one as I think you all will still be getting your offensive legs under you, but having a massive o line will help.

[Miss Kitty]

Come to the side that's red. ;)

That would be the East stands.

[cougmantx]

That is what you would have said last year also. If it were a playoff game I would have given Katy the advantage. Not in the preseason. Coug we will see in about a little over 5 months.

I wouldn't have given the advantage to Katy last year. They were way to young and unproven. I really like NS, they have some of the best fans on the board and are easy going folks. I do think Katy returns to many seasoned players and want to hit stride right out of the starting box. This game could be closer then I think, in that you are right.

The months are dragging and I don't even want to think about it being another five months until the beginning of the season.

[dada]

I wouldn't have given the advantage to Katy last year. They were way to young and unproven. I really like NS, they have some of the best fans on the board and are easy going folks. I do think Katy returns to many seasoned players and want to hit stride right out of the starting box. This game could be closer then I think, in that you are right.

The months are dragging and I don't even want to think about it being another five months until the beginning of the season.

Most of us were just hoping that Katy "Kept it close" last year against North Shore...and Like coach said in the video...it gave them a false state of confidence going into the Woodlands game. Losing by 4 was almost a victory with the way the expectations were last year. My PERSONAL opinion is that if Katy beats North SHore, they go into the playoffs undefeated.

[Bass]

That would be the East stands.

No, no, no. We're west. Come to the red side on the west, Rocketgrl. It's the side closest to San Antonio. :D

[dada]

No, no, no. We're west. Come to the red side on the west, Rocketgrl. It's the side closest to San Antonio. :D

Get on the right page Bass!!!!:cool:

[ftballin11]

That is what you would have said last year also. If it were a playoff game I would have given Katy the advantage. Not in the preseason. Coug we will see in about a little over 5 months.

Actually alot of people were predicting a 3-2 start with one of those losses coming to NS.

[ftballin11]

90% of the time I will pick Katy over anyone. I still think that Northshore has this one. Im considering that they were young and somewhat inexperienced. Katy has the State Championship swagger and Northshore has the "Let's prove that we are still the better team". This How it breaks down to me:

1) Offensive Line - Northshore
2) Defensive Line - Katy
3) Experience - Pickem
4) Home Field - Katy
5) Linebackers - Katy
6) Quaterback - Northshore
7) Recievers - Northshore
8) Coaching - Katy
9) Running Backs - Pickem
10) Defensive Backs - Northshore
11) Special Teams - Pickem
12) Score - Northshore 21 - Katy 20 OT

Winner - All Texas Region III Fans!

The only problem i have is O-line

Katy has 3 of 6 returning with other who saw time. 2 of them Are already committed to D1 colleges. Im not sure what NS has, but with the talent in the O-line Katy has returning and having it coached up, its hard to say anyone will have a better line than Katy next year.

[slcdragonfan]

The only problem i have is O-line

Katy has 3 of 6 returning with other who saw time. 2 of them Are already committed to D1 colleges. Im not sure what NS has, but with the talent in the O-line Katy has returning and having it coached up, its hard to say anyone will have a better line than Katy next year.

HEY! I thought Katy was successful without talent, it was all system and coaching and such. ;)

[Miss Kitty]

No, no, no. We're west. Come to the red side on the west, Rocketgrl. It's the side closest to San Antonio. :D


The west side will be SRO or sitting in the grass. The reserved seats will be gone before the season starts. So anyone wishing to sit in the stands that doesn't have a reserved seat better plan on sitting on the east side.

[ftballin11]

HEY! I thought Katy was successful without talent, it was all system and coaching and such. ;)

When you get talent mixed with the coaching it creates teams like the 07' team. Last year was the team that was pure coaching. ;)

[TigerBrother]

When you get talent mixed with the coaching it creates teams like the 07' team. Last year was the team that was pure coaching. ;)...and pure Heart..:notworthy:notworthy 2 4 back2back

[slcdragonfan]

When you get talent mixed with the coaching it creates teams like the 07' team. Last year was the team that was pure coaching. ;)

OK, just wanted to be sure, was getting a bit confused. one question though, weren't the two that are going D1 on the team last year? Or did they move in... :D

[ktCarl]

nooo you didnt... i accept if you guys except...what in about 4 months?...my issues should be ironed out by then....i need to have a noon game though


Issues?! It's a friggin high school football game in Texas. No issues supercedes that.

Wait a minute.....are you pregnant?

[rocketgrl94]

Issues?! It's a friggin high school football game in Texas. No issues supercedes that.

Wait a minute.....are you pregnant?

noooooo Carl look at my post in The Yard then you'll know

[Redhoss]

wait you said season tickets $10 each sooo gate tickets are $5-$6..i have nothing to worry about :D
and i will be over since u invited me;)

Well those prices happened last year after a lot of complaints, so no one knows what they will be this year at the gate. They might be $12 and seems like they started there last year. :rolleyes:

How many games are you coming to see?

[Redhoss]

$10 each????

I'm not the smartest person in the world....but 9 home games......at $10 each is $90.....why is KTfiend selling me a seat for $150?

After all the stuff I've done for Katy....especially this season*:ninja::D

*I'll be glad when KT2000 gives me the OK to spread the news.....it' hard holding this in:D

You should have saved that for the Fools Day joke ;)

Well $10 is the rumor thus far but i'll wait for some confirmations.

[Redhoss]

RecruitaScout. :D

That'll work.

[rocketgrl94]

Well those prices happened last year after a lot of complaints, so no one knows what they will be this year at the gate. They might be $12 and seems like they started there last year. :rolleyes:

How many games are you coming to see?

maaaaybe 2...dont quote me on that though
but 1 for sure

[Redhoss]

nooo you didnt... i accept if you guys except...what in about 4 months?...my issues should be ironed out by then....i need to have a noon game though

RG, uh you don't work in the post office do ya? :confused:

[rocketgrl94]

RG, uh you don't work in the post office do ya? :confused:

no

[85Roughneck]

And as for the streak, I never cared in the first place, I'd rather have a state title than a streak.


now there's something everyone should respect ... :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy

[85Roughneck]

That would be nice. Maybe after the game on saturday we all go eat at Cinco Ranch's Chick-Fil-A and really piss em off. :cool:

I'm in !!! :D

[85Roughneck]

*I'll be glad when KT2000 gives me the OK to spread the news.....it' hard holding this in:D

;) gotcha ...

[ftballin11]

OK, just wanted to be sure, was getting a bit confused. one question though, weren't the two that are going D1 on the team last year? Or did they move in... :D

I know what you are trying to say.

Honestly IMO there is more talent in the Katy program right now than there ever has been. the 08' SR class wasn't filled with D-1 talent but they had alot of Heart and determination.

But the classes below them are stacked. Cant wait to see them work.

[agmc27]

I say Katy goes 16-0 and completes the 3-peat. Thats what I say....

[CaneDadCat5]

I've been hearing about the Katy Home Game Price Complaints since last year. Is that for Katy only or is that for the whole district? Does that include student pricing? If thats the case I will stick with going to Butler for the next 3 years for HISD games . Can't watch any Fort Bend ISD games they are all against one another. NO VARIETY! Its like going to watch your little sister at her 4 hour dance recital. You do it because its family and you can't pick your family :eek:

[slcdragonfan]

I know what you are trying to say.

Honestly IMO there is more talent in the Katy program right now than there ever has been. the 08' SR class wasn't filled with D-1 talent but they had alot of Heart and determination.

But the classes below them are stacked. Cant wait to see them work.

Just some good-natured ribbing after the best coaches maelstrom. ;)

Look, we said the same thing and have been called on it. Fact is, you can't get there JUST on coaching and system, there has to be talent, in the right place, luck, and injuries minimized. Katy has a good number of talented kids, and they get the most out of them.

[The King]

Just some good-natured ribbing after the best coaches maelstrom. ;)

Look, we said the same thing and have been called on it. Fact is, you can't get there JUST on coaching and system, there has to be talent, in the right place, luck, and injuries minimized. Katy has a good number of talented kids, and they get the most out of them.

It doesn't hurt that over the years katy has had a few players that may not have been exactly ideal, but always seemed to be in the right place at the right time in the right mind doing the right thing.

[ftballin11]

Just some good-natured ribbing after the best coaches maelstrom. ;)

Look, we said the same thing and have been called on it. Fact is, you can't get there JUST on coaching and system, there has to be talent, in the right place, luck, and injuries minimized. Katy has a good number of talented kids, and they get the most out of them.


Id say Katy was in the middle of the pack this year in talent state wide, and we have been for the past since our tradition started.

[dada]

Those players are gonna have to play as a team to beat NS....no such thing as a rebuilding year on the East side of I-10.

[Bass]

I'm tired of the Bellevue thread.

[ktCarl]

I've been hearing about the Katy Home Game Price Complaints since last year. Is that for Katy only or is that for the whole district? Does that include student pricing? If thats the case I will stick with going to Butler for the next 3 years for HISD games . Can't watch any Fort Bend ISD games they are all against one another. NO VARIETY! Its like going to watch your little sister at her 4 hour dance recital. You do it because its family and you can't pick your family :eek:

The ticket pricing is for KISD at Rhodes Stadium. They did drop it from $10.00 to $8.00. No parking fee.

[dada]

Now THIS is the thread everyone should be talking about....what a way to start the season. I expect this game to be a battle just like last year with the team making the fewest mistakes winning.

[slcdragonfan]

Now THIS is the thread everyone should be talking about....what a way to start the season. I expect this game to be a battle just like last year with the team making the fewest mistakes winning.

Agreed.

[Mr. Rod]

I expect this game to be a battle just like last year with the team making the fewest mistakes winning.

Right you are sir. Whoever makes the least mistakes will win. Both teams are talented but iffy at the starting line.

[Bass]

Which will be stronger for North Shore at the start of the season? Offense or defense? And what sort of experience is coming back on special teams?

[Mr. Rod]

Which will be stronger for North Shore at the start of the season? Offense or defense? And what sort of experience is coming back on special teams?

Defense is always stronger throughout the season. And as for special teams... We shall see. I'll get a better knowledge when I go watch some of the practices.

[dada]

Last year...

Tracy Woods, 17 carries 100yds 1TD

I thought he was WAY more effective than Jones.


Woods is back....with some D1 guys in front of him on the line. It will be a war in the trenches....literally.

Katy had to settle for FG's deep in Mustang territory due to mistakes and a lack of a running game meant no play action passes.....the play action worked PERFECTLY one play......but the easiest TD you can catch was dropped. That was Webber's first live action in two years so I would expect the running game to be a little better out of the box this year...it also helps that Salinas and Randle won't be here to terrorize the Tigers. Also....Katy didnt have a receiving threat until Brandt came off of his suspensor in the Marcus game.

The leading WR for Katy in the North Shore was Sebi Carbjal....that's right the same Sebi Carbjl that was the DEFENSIVE MVP in the State title game with about 5 sacks.....he was the go to guy in that game.

I can't confirm this, but I heard Sam Holl had 27 tackles in the North Shore game last year.....if Katy can get the same defensive efforts, they have shot. They need to keep an eye out for Deandrew White. Not sure how the Mustangs will look considering they will have a new OC.......but if push comes to shove, I would expect a lot of Woods behind Flowers and Hopkins with an occasional shot down field to White.

Katy was one dimensional at the beginning of last season and was looking for something that worked. This season two RB's that saw starting time at some point in the season return and a possible 3rd who could be a huge part of the offense which should be more balanced with a QB that can get it downfield now. Also....there is speed(Morris,Jones), size(Swanson) and depth at WR. It's all up to the O line.....they will have to deal with North Shores size and speed....if they can do that.....they have a shot.

108 days left......can't wait for this game. I would love to see these teams face off later in the season or the playoffs when they both are settled. First game of the season does this matchup no justice.

[Fleeman93]

I will be surprised if this one is close going into the 4th. After losing by 4 last year Katy returns a bunch of that team and North Shore lost a bunch of theirs. I do know North Shore will be good but like I said I will be surprised if Katy doesn't win this by 14+.

[dada]

I will be surprised if this one is close going into the 4th. After losing by 4 last year Katy returns a bunch of that team and North Shore lost a bunch of theirs. I do know North Shore will be good but like I said I will be surprised if Katy doesn't win this by 14+.

I hope you're right. To beat North SHore by 2 scores means Katy will have to play PERFECT football......right out of the gate. Mistakes will be made...on both sides. I would give Katy the edge being that it's at Rhodes....but according to some in the Bellevue/Katy thread....the home field factor is overrrated.

I would love to see Katy win by 2 scores.......that would be nice. But I would settle for a 1 pt win.

[KT2000]

I will be surprised if this one is close going into the 4th. After losing by 4 last year Katy returns a bunch of that team and North Shore lost a bunch of theirs. I do know North Shore will be good but like I said I will be surprised if Katy doesn't win this by 14+.

The only way I'd see that happening is if the score is 21-7. It would take a tremendous game from Katy's offensive line for the Tigers to break it open. I've never seen that from a Katy team in the first game, so I wouldn't expect it.

You know what to expect from North Shore every year. I'm not particularly bothered that they lose most of their key players on defense. Coach Aymond is going to put a more than capable unit on the field. They will be fast and physical. They will disrupt. They will run the football between the tackles.

They (finally) added more of a passing element to their offense last year and I expect them to build further this season with a player like DeAndrew White returning at receiver. Alex Tillman became one of their best players by the end of the season. His progression mirrored that of Katy's Parker Ray.

Katy started extremely slowly last year, but North Shore's defense was no fluke in that game. I've been watching North Shore bring that sort of pressure for years now. I wasn't surprised at all by it. I said before the game that the biggest determining factor would be whether or not Katy could get North Shore blocked.

[Fleeman93]

I guess I am just looking at it from a very simple perspective:

1. Katy should be better in game one this year than they were last year.

2. Although North Shore will be good I don't see them being as good as last year.

3. Offensively for Katy it will all come down to the play of the O line. If Katy can give the QB enough time to hit a few passes for balance then the offense should be fine.

4. Although White will be a stud at WR we all know North Shore will have to pound the ball with Woods (right into Katy's strength) to be successful. With a big majority of Katy's defense returning it stands to reason that the same run defense should be improved.

5. Home field for Katy.



A much younger and inexperienced Katy team played a loaded North Shore team to a 4 point loss on their home field in 08, so I see no reason why a much more experienced Katy team shouldn't win this one at home.

[85Roughneck]

I guess I am just looking at it from a very simple perspective:

1. Katy should be better in game one this year than they were last year.

2. Although North Shore will be good I don't see them being as good as last year.

3. Offensively for Katy it will all come down to the play of the O line. If Katy can give the QB enough time to hit a few passes for balance then the offense should be fine.

4. Although White will be a stud at WR we all know North Shore will have to pound the ball with Woods (right into Katy's strength) to be successful. With a big majority of Katy's defense returning it stands to reason that the same run defense should be improved.

5. Home field for Katy.



A much younger and inexperienced Katy team played a loaded North Shore team to a 4 point loss on their home field in 08, so I see no reason why a much more experienced Katy team shouldn't win this one at home.

with all due respect given to NorthShore and their fans this is exactly how I see it. I agree with Fleeman on this completely. I have high expectations of Katy's Defense this year and everything indicates that the offense will start off quicker this year than it has in the past. We have more offensive weapons this year and these weapons are more advanced/experienced than they were last year. IF Katy has one question mark it's the O-line. I believe that question will be answered loud and clear with an exclamation point come August 29th.

[KT2000]

I guess I am just looking at it from a very simple perspective:

1. Katy should be better in game one this year than they were last year.

2. Although North Shore will be good I don't see them being as good as last year.

3. Offensively for Katy it will all come down to the play of the O line. If Katy can give the QB enough time to hit a few passes for balance then the offense should be fine.

4. Although White will be a stud at WR we all know North Shore will have to pound the ball with Woods (right into Katy's strength) to be successful. With a big majority of Katy's defense returning it stands to reason that the same run defense should be improved.

1. Katy should start at a higher level given the returning experience and talent. We agree there. However, North Shore could also be improved depending on QB and special teams play.

2. We won't know that for certain until the season begins. They could be better with more offense balance and a kicking game. The kicking game is the primary reason they weren't playing for state last year.

3. Katy's OL has to play well in order for the Tigers to be comfortable against the kind of defensive fronts North Shore fields every year. This goes for both the running and passing game. Katy has three new starters on the OL.

4. North Shore did most of their damage running between the tackles last year. That's actually the best way to attack Katy's defense from a strategic point of view. The 3-4 is geared more for the horizonal/speed game rather than the vertical power approach. Katy will be giving up a lot of lbs in the weight department versus NS OL. There aren't many teams who can run an effective power game any more. North Shore is one of them.

[Kat-na-hat]

[quote=KT2000;1188935]The only way I'd see that happening is if the score is 21-7. It would take a tremendous game from Katy's offensive line for the Tigers to break it open. I've never seen that from a Katy team in the first game, so I wouldn't expect it. Katy's Defense/Special teams will account for how many points in this game? If I remember that's how NS beat Lufkin last year. So Yes Katy's Offense will have to have to control and wear them down. Tough job to do.


They (finally) added more of a passing element to their offense last year and I expect them to build further this season with a player like DeAndrew White returning at receiver. Alex Tillman became one of their best players by the end of the season. His progression mirrored that of Katy's Parker Ray. Good WR's, but QB question for NS? Will Katy D make em pay if they are expanding their passing game?

[The King]

The only way I'd see that happening is if the score is 21-7. It would take a tremendous game from Katy's offensive line for the Tigers to break it open. I've never seen that from a Katy team in the first game, so I wouldn't expect it.

You know what to expect from North Shore every year. I'm not particularly bothered that they lose most of their key players on defense. Coach Aymond is going to put a more than capable unit on the field. They will be fast and physical. They will disrupt. They will run the football between the tackles.

They (finally) added more of a passing element to their offense last year and I expect them to build further this season with a player like DeAndrew White returning at receiver. Alex Tillman became one of their best players by the end of the season. His progression mirrored that of Katy's Parker Ray.

Katy started extremely slowly last year, but North Shore's defense was no fluke in that game. I've been watching North Shore bring that sort of pressure for years now. I wasn't surprised at all by it. I said before the game that the biggest determining factor would be whether or not Katy could get North Shore blocked.

The only suprise I saw in last years game was that Katy had 5 turnovers and only lost by 4 pts.

The team that effectivly controls the ball will win this one.

[dada]

The only suprise I saw in last years game was that Katy had 5 turnovers and only lost by 4 pts.

The team that effectivly controls the ball will win this one.

6 if you count the kickoff no one wanted to catch.

[Jayhawker]

I am not even a Katy fan - I say they win this one and State again.

[KT2000]

The only suprise I saw in last years game was that Katy had 5 turnovers and only lost by 4 pts.

The team that effectivly controls the ball will win this one.

North Shore spent the first half trying to work the speed game and run a more option type attack. That did not work against Katy's discipline. Jones, NS's scatback, had a very quiet game as did Tillman.

They went in at halftime and figured out they should run a C gap drill with Tracy Woods behind that big OL. They took control of the game once they realized they could move the chains that way.

Of course, Katy was really made to pay for its sloppy play against The Woodlands. They exploited the Tigers' weak spot against the passing game and benefited from a bunch of short field drives.

[Fleeman93]

North Shore spent the first half trying to work the speed game and run a more option type attack. That did not work against Katy's discipline. Jones, NS's scatback, had a very quiet game as did Tillman.

They went in at halftime and figured out they should run a C gap drill with Tracy Woods behind that big OL. They took control of the game once they realized they could move the chains that way.

Of course, Katy was really made to pay for its sloppy play against The Woodlands. They exploited the Tigers' weak spot against the passing game and benefited from a bunch of short field drives.

Do you think North Shore would have won the game had Katy not turned the ball over 4 times?

[KT2000]

Do you think North Shore would have won the game had Katy not turned the ball over 4 times?

Katy had the lowest per carry average I've ever seen from a Tiger team in that game, so the Tigers weren't doing anything with the ball anyway. North Shore didn't capitalize on those mistakes as well as they should have, and they had plenty of their own mistakes. If I remember right, the drive they made to ultimately win that game was a big time clock eater with heavy doses of Mr. Woods.

NS may have still won it without the turnovers considering Katy could barely get snaps off before the Mustangs were disrupting the backfield. The mistakes hurt North Shore more than Katy because they (NS) were actually able to move the ball. Katy was going three-and-out just about every time.

[Redhoss]

Katy had the lowest per carry average I've ever seen from a Tiger team in that game, so the Tigers weren't doing anything with the ball anyway. North Shore didn't capitalize on those mistakes as well as they should have, and they had plenty of their own mistakes. If I remember right, the drive they made to ultimately win that game was a big time clock eater with heavy doses of Mr. Woods.
NS may have still won it without the turnovers considering Katy could barely get snaps off before the Mustangs were disrupting the backfield. The mistakes hurt North Shore more than Katy because they (NS) were actually able to move the ball. Katy was going three-and-out just about every time.

You remember right. I do expect us to be able to slow them down in the middle this year though. And we'll have a better game on offense I do believe.

I'm not predicting a 14 point spread but I do expect us to win if we play error free ball.

[KT2000]

You remember right. I do expect us to be able to slow them down in the middle this year though. And we'll have a better game on offense I do believe.

I'm not predicting a 14 point spread but I do expect us to win if we play error free ball.

We'll find out if Sampa/Narcisse/Bray/Adams and co. are ready for that battle up front. Sampa is the key piece as the NT because he'll have to hold his ground against double teams. Tapong was a real luxury in that position. You knew what you were getting from him every week.

[Fleeman93]

So basically what I am getting is that in 08 a very young inexperienced Katy team that made a lot of mistakes and produced nothing offensively (credit North Shore) only lost by 4 (10-6) to a very talented and highly regarded North Shore team in their house.

[KT2000]

So basically what I am getting is that in 08 a very young inexperienced Katy team that made a lot of mistakes and produced nothing offensively (credit North Shore) only lost by 4 (10-6) to a very talented and highly regarded North Shore team in their house.

North Shore's defense was the best I saw all year although I would give The Woodlands' secondary an edge against North Shore's unit last year.

The offense and kicking game....not so much.

I would also expect Katy to be in better shape this year due to experience and playing on the home field, but North Shore might also be in better shape if they have a comparable defense and their offense doesn't start as slowly. The offense part will depend on who they've got at QB and if he'll need as much time as Tillman did to get going.

Tillman, a liability against Katy, was one of their best players by the end of the season. North Shore doubled up Hightower's total yardage in the playoffs. Hightower made fewer mistakes and had far superior special teams.

I guess my only real point here is that we can't guarantee North Shore will be worse off than what they started last year.

[Dynastybegan86]

North Shore's defense was the best I saw all year although I would give The Woodlands' secondary an edge against North Shore's unit last year.

The offense and kicking game....not so much.

I would also expect Katy to be in better shape this year due to experience and playing on the home field, but North Shore might also be in better shape if they have a comparable defense and their offense doesn't start as slowly. The offense part will depend on who they've got at QB and if he'll need as much time as Tillman did to get going.

Tillman, a liability against Katy, was one of their best players by the end of the season. North Shore doubled up Hightower's total yardage in the playoffs. Hightower made fewer mistakes and had far superior special teams.

I guess my only real point here is that we can't guarantee North Shore will be worse off than what they started last year.

Can guarantee Katy will be better off than where they started last year?

Will we have the leadership, fire, and confidence that seemed to be absent from the team at the beginning of season last year?

[KT2000]

Can guarantee Katy will be better off than where they started last year?

Will we have the leadership, fire, and confidence that seemed to be absent from the team at the beginning of season last year?

I don't know how they wouldn't be. It'd be very difficult for the Tigers to start any worse than last year.

We'll find out about that second question throughout the season.

[jc84chill]

Can guarantee Katy will be better off than where they started last year?

Will we have the leadership, fire, and confidence that seemed to be absent from the team at the beginning of season last year?

There wasn't a lack of fire last Saturday morning and we're only in May. Leadership won't be a problem on Defense. The jury is still out in my book on the other side of the ball which is to be expected when you have a new QB.

[Pool Man]

There wasn't a lack of fire last Saturday morning and we're only in May. Leadership won't be a problem on Defense. The jury is still out in my book on the other side of the ball which is to be expected when you have a new QB.

Offense will be fine, but it just will take some time to get things together. This is just the way it is when you run the offense we run with the zone blocking scheme. How much time it takes is yet to be determined, but they should be in better shape going in than last year I would think.

[The King]

Can guarantee Katy will be better off than where they started last year?
Will we have the leadership, fire, and confidence that seemed to be absent from the team at the beginning of season last year?

It would be a crying shame if they arent any better, I remeber a long sit in the parking lot trying to get out of the woodlands stadium realizing that it couldn't get any worse.

Honestly i had mixed feelings after that game cause I had seen the Defense do a respectable job against north shore with -5 or 6 in turnovers, ans 2 games of offenseive nothing.

[Pool Man]

It would be a crying shame if they arent any better, I remeber a long sit in the parking lot trying to get out of the woodlands stadium realizing that it couldn't get any worse.

Honestly i had mixed feelings after that game cause I had seen the Defense do a respectable job against north shore with -5 or 6 in turnovers, ans 2 games of offenseive nothing.

You should have left early like I did. I guess sometimes it does pay to have small children. They were falling out by the end of the third, so midway through the fourth we were gone. You don't realize how much stadium traffic slows you down, but I remember a playoff game at Rice where I got out right away, but my wife was in a separate car and got stuck. I hit the Westpark tollway and was back at the house before she ever got out of the parking lot.

[KT2000]

You should have left early like I did.

Get ready for the pitchfork brigade.

[nsmustang]

Interesting comments. I know Katy will be tough as they always are. The TWHS game last year was a fluke for them. I've seen it before where everything collapses for whatever reasons . Yes, TWHS may have won the game anyway but when you lose by that many points it was more than just TWHS just being such a great dominant team. Aymond will have his team ready for whoever is on the schedule and the defense is always relentless whether there are returning starters or newbies. It will be a good game anyway you slice it.
I do like NS being the underdog.

[t00 playa]

Interesting comments. I know Katy will be tough as they always are. The TWHS game last year was a fluke for them. I've seen it before where everything collapses for whatever reasons . Yes, TWHS may have won the game anyway but when you lose by that many points it was more than just TWHS just being such a great dominant team. Aymond will have his team ready for whoever is on the schedule and the defense is always relentless whether there are returning starters or newbies. It will be a good game anyway you slice it.
I do like NS being the underdog.


we will more than hold our own.... we have a very good mix of returners, letterman and newbies.... our QB situation is good.... so i think we will be fine...:eek:

[NSMustangProud]

we will more than hold our own.... we have a very good mix of returners, letterman and newbies.... our QB situation is good.... so i think we will be fine...:eek:


I think we will be just fine as well. I look forward to those coming back, excited to see our new qb situation.....and Katy sometimes has a hard time at the beginning of the season.

It will be a fun game.

[nsmustang]

we will more than hold our own.... we have a very good mix of returners, letterman and newbies.... our QB situation is [/B[B]]good.... so i think we will be fine...:eek:

From what I saw, it is very good. I look for another great season. Funny, the envy people are rearing their heads about the streak and talking about strength of schedule. Sos is like saying a kid from a 2A or 3A school did not play against the big 5A teams and won't hold up in college. Anyone hear of Colt McCoy, Adrian Peterson or Billy Sims? I think it is odd that people are sweating out their team playing NS year in and year out if sos is a big factor. As far as I'm concerned, the streak thing is long over and should not have been a factor in whether they win or lose. I also see NS being billed as the weak underdog by some this year and I like that a lot. Makes me happy....;)

[The King]

Get ready for the pitchfork brigade.

You wouldn't beleive how hard those are to get into rhoades.

[cougmantx]

From what I saw, it is very good. I look for another great season. Funny, the envy people are rearing their heads about the streak and talking about strength of schedule. Sos is like saying a kid from a 2A or 3A school did not play against the big 5A teams and won't hold up in college. Anyone hear of Colt McCoy, Adrian Peterson or Billy Sims? I think it is odd that people are sweating out their team playing NS year in and year out if sos is a big factor. As far as I'm concerned, the streak thing is long over and should not have been a factor in whether they win or lose. I also see NS being billed as the weak underdog by some this year and I like that a lot. Makes me happy....;)

I don't think that NS is the underdog and I don't think that Katy will underestimate them. Katy will be ready for this game in ways they weren't last year and it will be a snot slinger.

As one of the coaches said, "Hey were coming right at you. Wer'e not trying to trick you...here we come." I think Katy will be the team to beat and with the leadership they have coming back I think they will far exceed even the 2007 team. I expect great things out of them and I think every player on this team does to. It will be a thing to behold as Katy rolls in 2009.

I think it will start the season with the best two teams in the Houston area showing what we have. DFW be damned, we own this state next year. Could be a year of Divison I and Division II coming to the Houston area...:D

[Pool Man]

Get ready for the pitchfork brigade.

Ya'll can go ahead and take your shots, but I could care less so you might as well save your breath. Trust me, if it was just me by myself, I would have stayed, but when you have little ones you have to sometimes follow their schedule. At least the kids are getting to the age now where we can control that a little better.

[KT2000]

Ya'll can go ahead and take your shots, but I could care less so you might as well save your breath. Trust me, if it was just me by myself, I would have stayed, but when you have little ones you have to sometimes follow their schedule. At least the kids are getting to the age now where we can control that a little better.

Oh I understand, but some among us (who shall remain nameless) have camera fueled agendas.

I can't wait for Katy-North Shore. These two programs should play every year. I've been waiting for this match-up a long time and was not dissappointed last year. I expect a higher quality game from both teams this time around.

[jc84chill]

Oh I understand, but some among us (who shall remain nameless) have camera fueled agendas.

I can't wait for Katy-North Shore. These two programs should play every year. I've been waiting for this match-up a long time and was not dissappointed last year. I expect a higher quality game from both teams this time around.

During a blowout in our favor, nonetheless. :)

[Kat-na-hat]

I can't wait for Katy-North Shore. These two programs should play every year. I've been waiting for this match-up a long time and was not dissappointed last year. I expect a higher quality game from both teams this time around.[/quote]


I know the coaches have there reasons for making this the first game of the season, but a game later would also be a good test, just as Cinco found out last year when they picked up the Hurricane Ike game with SLC. NS will be fully tested this year with Katy and SLC, my hope is this helps get them to the finals...

[Pool Man]

Oh I understand, but some among us (who shall remain nameless) have camera fueled agendas.

I can't wait for Katy-North Shore. These two programs should play every year. I've been waiting for this match-up a long time and was not dissappointed last year. I expect a higher quality game from both teams this time around.

I know it. At church we call guys like you "up front men". You're the leaders, out there in the spotlight. I have the luxury of hanging out back here in the shadows. :cool:

[85Roughneck]

Could be a year of Divison I and Division II coming to the Houston area...:D

nothing, and I mean nothing at all would make me more proud than to see Katy and another R3 team, whether it be NorthShore, Hightower or another, win the finals together next year regardless of who is in DI or DII. My wants aren't necessary to show up DFW or R1 or R2 or even R4. I just like to win and I like my own to win. Since Katy is R3 I consider all the other R3 schools our brethren for this one point.

I'm with Cougman on this ... I say Katy rolls to a 3-peat and makes a statement while doing so. :cool:

[nsmustang]

I don't think that NS is the underdog and I don't think that Katy will underestimate them. Katy will be ready for this game in ways they weren't last year and it will be a snot slinger.

As one of the coaches said, "Hey were coming right at you. Wer'e not trying to trick you...here we come." I think Katy will be the team to beat and with the leadership they have coming back I think they will far exceed even the 2007 team. I expect great things out of them and I think every player on this team does to. It will be a thing to behold as Katy rolls in 2009.

I think it will start the season with the best two teams in the Houston area showing what we have. DFW be damned, we own this state next year. Could be a year of Divison I and Division II coming to the Houston area...:D

Well said coug. I just saw some threads that picked NS to lose by a lot (2 or more td's). It could happen but I, like you and KT, see another great game. Katy is a perrenial Houston powerhouse with the trophies to match.

[Pool Man]

Well said coug. I just saw some threads that picked NS to lose by a lot (2 or more td's). It could happen but I, like you and KT, see another great game. Katy is a perrenial Houston powerhouse with the trophies to match.

Both sides last year made some huge mistakes. Because of those mistakes, Katy could have won. Because of those mistakes, NS could have won by alot more than what they did. Defense is always big for NS and Katy will be stout this year on that side of the ball too. We're likely to see a score similar to last year when this thing is all said and done. Out of the first ten games for Katy, this one will probably be the title fight that will go the distance.

[The King]

Well said coug. I just saw some threads that picked NS to lose by a lot (2 or more td's). It could happen but I, like you and KT, see another great game. Katy is a perrenial Houston powerhouse with the trophies to match.

I personally think the score will be very simular to last season. Determined by less than a touchdown, and not very high.

[twcpfan1]

A lot of confidence from the Katy fans. I think it's an even money proposition. If NS has the athletes their teams typically have, Katy could have a problem. The games I've seen Katy lose the last few years have been to good teams with better athletes. That could possibly be the case in this game.

[dada]

The difference this year is....Katy may have the athletes also to go with their coaching.

[twcpfan1]

The difference this year is....Katy may have the athletes also to go with their coaching.

Katy fans have always maintained that the Tigers get it done every year with superior coaching and not necessarily superior athletes. Never actually bought that (the athlete part, not the coaching - with that I totally agree. You don't win games or championships with inferior athletes). This is why there is a good possibility that they may go into the Bellevue game 0-2. Even The Woodlands will be an athletically gifted team particularly on D. From what I'm reading, some Katy fans seem to think they'll be an easier matchup than Bellevue. I really don't know about that.

[dada]

Katy fans have always maintained that the Tigers get it done every year with superior coaching and not necessarily superior athletes. Never actually bought that (the athlete part, not the coaching - with that I totally agree. You don't win games or championships with inferior athletes). This is why there is a good possibility that they may go into the Bellevue game 0-2. Even The Woodlands will be an athletically gifted team particularly on D. From what I'm reading, some Katy fans seem to think they'll be an easier matchup than Bellevue. I really don't know about that.

I think this year will be different. Katy will actually look like they belong on the field with North Shore this season. I remember last year all the Woodlands fans were excited about this season and many wrote them off saying "But you went 3-8 last season" and the Woodz fans kept saying, "this class has talent, it will be different" The next 2 seasons for Katy will be like that, but the difference is, instead of being 3-8 last year, they "Struggled" to a 13-3 state title, but the next 2 classes will have lots of Talent....now add that to the coaching.

Everyone knows that 0-2 is possible....0-2 would be possible with almost ANY team starting off with North Shore and The Woodlands. I know it sounds crazy....but I think Katy will suprise a lot of people this season with their speed and athleticism(sp?) on both sides of the ball. I posted in the offseason last season that if teams were to beat Katy, this(2008) will be the years, because their are some great kids moving up in the program.

[Pool Man]

Katy fans have always maintained that the Tigers get it done every year with superior coaching and not necessarily superior athletes. Never actually bought that (the athlete part, not the coaching - with that I totally agree. You don't win games or championships with inferior athletes). This is why there is a good possibility that they may go into the Bellevue game 0-2. Even The Woodlands will be an athletically gifted team particularly on D. From what I'm reading, some Katy fans seem to think they'll be an easier matchup than Bellevue. I really don't know about that.

The "great athlete" debate is based on the fact that traditionally we don't have an overwhelming number of D1 recruits, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that we don't have athletes. We have a program in place and we develope our kids to work within that program as a team. There are very few classes from Katy where you can point to an overwhelming number of standout players that had colleges tripping over themselves to talk to.

[TigerBrother]

It's hard for me to imagine how Katy has been winning so much in the pass, before the recruiter was brought on board...:ninja:.. Work you wonders sir I want a 3peat..:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy..psst see if you can sneak me into rotation I could throw this football for miles I bet I could throw it right over those mountains...uncle reco..

[ftballin11]

Katy fans have always maintained that the Tigers get it done every year with superior coaching and not necessarily superior athletes. Never actually bought that (the athlete part, not the coaching - with that I totally agree. You don't win games or championships with inferior athletes). This is why there is a good possibility that they may go into the Bellevue game 0-2. Even The Woodlands will be an athletically gifted team particularly on D. From what I'm reading, some Katy fans seem to think they'll be an easier matchup than Bellevue. I really don't know about that.

Yeah what would Katy fans know about it?:rolleyes:

For years people always said we were slow white farm boys. Oh how things can change.

I wish we still had the Katy/Humble Threads from Back int 02'.

[twcpfan1]

Yeah what would Katy fans know about it?:rolleyes:

For years people always said we were slow white farm boys. Oh how things can change.

I wish we still had the Katy/Humble Threads from Back int 02'.

Actually it's usually Katy fans who 'downplay' Katy's overall athleticism whenever the subject is brought up. Personally I've never bought it. Humble is one thing. But against teams like NS, Westfield, Lufkin and Hightower (08) the Katy teams that aren't particularly athletic might have problems matching up. We've seen it against Lufkin, Cy Falls, TWHS and NS. In every one of those losses the other team had the advantage athletically.

[ftballin11]

Actually it's usually Katy fans who 'downplay' Katy's overall athleticism whenever the subject is brought up. Personally I've never bought it. Humble is one thing. But against teams like NS, Westfield, Lufkin and Hightower (08) the Katy teams that aren't particularly athletic might have problems matching up. We've seen it against Lufkin, Cy Falls, TWHS and NS. In every one of those losses the other team had the advantage athletically.

All but one of those games was early in the year. Go check our history against Hightower and woodz.

Nobody is downplaying it. Until recently Katy has not had a tone of talent. When they do have it, it makes teams like 07' and 00'.


Oh and Humble 02' had more talent than both NS and HT this year. We beat them twice. The only reason I referenced it, was because of the banter from the players on this board. They were saying we were to big and slow.

[twcpfan1]

All but one of those games was early in the year. Go check our history against Hightower and woodz.

Nobody is downplaying it. Until recently Katy has not had a tone of talent. When they do have it, it makes teams like 07' and 00'.


Oh and Humble 02' had more talent than both NS and HT this year. We beat them twice. The only reason I referenced it, was because of the banter from the players on this board. They were saying we were to big and slow.

Not qualified to comment on 02. Wasn't around the boards back then but what you're saying comes as no surprise. Humble has been underachieving this decade. Woodz beat them too even with Jerrod Johnson in years when Woodz weren't even highly touted.

[ftballin11]

Not qualified to comment on 02. Wasn't around the boards back then but what you're saying comes as no surprise. Humble has been underachieving this decade. Woodz beat them too even with Jerrod Johnson in years when Woodz weren't even highly touted.


Yeah this was when they ranked top 10 in the state. They were undefeated except for the 2 losses, to a very untalented Katy team.

Ive noticed the best way to judge Katy's talent level is to look at there Freshman teams record. They havent had tim to learn the system yet. So if they win it is because they are more talented, not better coached.

[Dynastybegan86]

Actually it's usually Katy fans who 'downplay' Katy's overall athleticism whenever the subject is brought up. Personally I've never bought it. Humble is one thing. But against teams like NS, Westfield, Lufkin and Hightower (08) the Katy teams that aren't particularly athletic might have problems matching up. We've seen it against Lufkin, Cy Falls, TWHS and NS. In every one of those losses the other team had the advantage athletically.

NO doubt they were very talented, but they had the experience to go with the talent, hence the loss. I would even argue to a point with you about the Woods last year.

[twcpfan1]

NO doubt they were very talented, but they had the experience to go with the talent, hence the loss. I would even argue to a point with you about the Woods last year.

In the Falls game the Katy DB's played as well as they could but were simply overmatched against the Falls Receivers. Couldn't stop that out route so Falls nickled and dimed them to death on that play. With the Woods I just feel that Katy's passing game would have been shut down by the Woodz DB's and the game would have been decided in the trenches where I feel Woodz also had the advantage.

[cougmantx]

In the Falls game the Katy DB's played as well as they could but were simply overmatched against the Falls Receivers. Couldn't stop that out route so Falls nickled and dimed them to death on that play. With the Woods I just feel that Katy's passing game would have been shut down by the Woodz DB's and the game would have been decided in the trenches where I feel Woodz also had the advantage.

As far as the Falls game is concerned, that was one of the most frustrating games I have watched. I saw the same thing...short dinks and dunks that Katy didn't respond to well. I remember setting in the stands wondering what the heck they were letting them do. It just seemed to me Katy was unable to respond to a well executed offensive plan by Cy Falls in 2006.

Not sure what you are talking about with the Woodz. Other then last year, Katy has owned them. I expect that tradition to resume again this year...:eek::D

[twcpfan1]

As far as the Falls game is concerned, that was one of the most frustrating games I have watched. I saw the same thing...short dinks and dunks that Katy didn't respond to well. I remember setting in the stands wondering what the heck they were letting them do. It just seemed to me Katy was unable to respond to a well executed offensive plan by Cy Falls in 2006.

Not sure what you are talking about with the Woodz. Other then last year, Katy has owned them. I expect that tradition to resume again this year...:eek::D

I was only referring to the 2008 teams. Obviously in 07 and 05, Katy was quite a lot better than the Woodz in all facets. 06 was a tossup based on the score. I did not see the game. The 90's - advantage Woodz.

Not sure if Katy and Falls will ever match up again. Falls would have to advance pretty far in the playoffs for that to happen. With the emergence of Cy Woods, I feel that they will take over where Falls and Fair left off.

[ftballin11]

I was only referring to the 2008 teams. Obviously in 07 and 05, Katy was quite a lot better than the Woodz in all facets. 06 was a tossup based on the score. I did not see the game. The 90's - advantage Woodz.

Not sure if Katy and Falls will ever match up again. Falls would have to advance pretty far in the playoffs for that to happen. With the emergence of Cy Woods, I feel that they will take over where Falls and Fair left off.



What?????????

Katy was Team of the decade with 4 trips to state in the 90's. Please explain how 90's was edge Woodz?

Oh and 06' again was a young team. I think later in the year Katy would have handled woodz with ease.

[Dynastybegan86]

CavDad I have searched and searched and searched and I can't find ONE game between Katy and The Woodlands High School in the 90's:confused::confused:

Not even a play-off game could I find, where are you getting your information???


WAIT! Are you trying to use the McCullough High record???? That's not TWHS no matter how you slice it; it's not even the same campus. They played Katy in 1990 and 1991, won both.

McCullough never played Katy in the 80's, so there were only 2 games ever played in the modern era between Katy and McCullough High. So, ok they "owned" us for 2 games.....Congratulations!:rolleyes:

Katy and the Woodlands started playing each other in 2005, Katy has a 3-1 record against TWHS.

[Dynastybegan86]

Can we stay on point now that the whole old vs new McCullough vs Woodz is done, that game is week 1, Northshore is week 0.

back on topic..........


2 strong defensively minded teams that like to stop the run and then offensively run the ball at you, can't wait, this will be a WAR!:notworthy

[twcpfan1]

What?????????

Katy was Team of the decade with 4 trips to state in the 90's. Please explain how 90's was edge Woodz?

Oh and 06' again was a young team. I think later in the year Katy would have handled woodz with ease.

Again you misunderstood. I'm talking about specific games and specific matchups. Not what they did all decade. Katy went 0-2 vs McCullough (old name for TWHS). Obviously Woodz were better than Katy IN THOSE PARTICULAR YEARS THAT THE MATCHUPS HAPPENED.

[twcpfan1]

CavDad I have searched and searched and searched and I can't find ONE game between Katy and The Woodlands High School in the 90's:confused::confused:

Not even a play-off game could I find, where are you getting your information???


WAIT! Are you trying to use the McCullough High record???? That's not TWHS no matter how you slice it; it's not even the same campus. They played Katy in 1990 and 1991, won both.

McCullough never played Katy in the 80's, so there were only 2 games ever played in the modern era between Katy and McCullough High. So, ok they "owned" us for 2 games.....Congratulations!:rolleyes:

Katy and the Woodlands started playing each other in 2005, Katy has a 3-1 record against TWHS.

www.highlanderfootball.net

(They count McC wins and losses in their History section. They were known as The Highlanders)

We had to have a HS in this area or we'd be all morons and McC was the only one at the time and it morphed into TWHS. When TWHS opened, it was never considered a new school.

You are right though. We need to terminate the history lesson. I was merely pointing out previous Katy losses and how they have always been to teams with superb athletes. 08 Woodz are just one of those teams. No idea how we even started discussing previous games. As it relates to NS, they typically field very good athletes and for that reason I think the game will be close.

[ktCarl]

Again you misunderstood. I'm talking about specific games and specific matchups. Not what they did all decade. Katy went 0-2 vs McCullough (old name for TWHS). Obviously Woodz were better than Katy IN THOSE PARTICULAR YEARS THAT THE MATCHUPS HAPPENED.


You have a short reference frame for Katy if you've only seen them since '02. In 1997 Eisenhower was waaaaay more athletic than Katy and Katy still pulled off the playoff victory. Longview had the edge in athletes in '97 also but Katy beat them in the Final. Southlake Carroll had a few more athletes than Katy in '03. And last but not least..the 1994 Beaumont Westbrook team had far more talented athletes than Katy plus was picked to be a State Finalist or Champ that year when Katy beat them in the R3 Final.


And also again... When Katy was combined with the Alief schools the Alief teams all had more athletes than Katy and I believe Taylor was the only team to beat Katy in that period.

[twcpfan1]

You have a short reference frame for Katy if you've only seen them since '02. In 1997 Eisenhower was waaaaay more athletic than Katy and Katy still pulled off the playoff victory. Longview had the edge in athletes in '97 also but Katy beat them in the Final. Southlake Carroll had a few more athletes than Katy in '03. And last but not least..the 1994 Beaumont Westbrook team had far more talented athletes than Katy plus was picked to be a State Finalist or Champ that year when Katy beat them in the R3 Final.

Again I am not referring to Katy wins. I'm referring to Katy losses. All of the recent ones have been to very good teams athletically. Katy's coaching usually gets them through with all things being equal. And it's difficult for me to equate a team from Alief or even Humble to the GPNS program, no matter how good their athletes are. Again my whole point is it would be hard for me to predict a Katy blowout against NS considering they are typical of teams Katy have lost to in recent times. Not to mention they actually beat Katy last year.

[ftballin11]

Again I am not referring to Katy wins. I'm referring to Katy losses. All of the recent ones have been to very good teams athletically. Katy's coaching usually gets them through with all things being equal. And it's difficult for me to equate a team from Alief or even Humble to the GPNS program, no matter how good their athletes are. Again my whole point is it would be hard for me to predict a Katy blowout against NS considering they are typical of teams Katy have lost to in recent times. Not to mention they actually beat Katy last year.

Which the loss to NS was fully expected. Its hard for coaching to make that much of a difference with only 3 returning starters. NS is very athletic and Aymond is a good coach. I think later in the year would have been a different story as would have Woodz.

You have to look at playoff performances, and the only team to beat us that you listed in the playoffs was Fall. That was by a perfectly executed offensive game plan with the athletes to enhance it's effectiveness.

[ktCarl]

Again I am not referring to Katy wins. I'm referring to Katy losses. All of the recent ones have been to very good teams athletically. Katy's coaching usually gets them through with all things being equal. And it's difficult for me to equate a team from Alief or even Humble to the GPNS program, no matter how good their athletes are. Again my whole point is it would be hard for me to predict a Katy blowout against NS considering they are typical of teams Katy have lost to in recent times. Not to mention they actually beat Katy last year.

Well, then, that would be the most 3 recent losses only which hardly makes it the norm. I take those losses and lump them in with the team history from when they started becoming a frequent winner.

I wouldn't predict a Katy blowout of NS especially for the first game of the season. It should be another entertaining battle like last year. I would give Katy the edge for these reasons though:
1) Most of last years team returns
2) They are bigger, faster and stronger than last year.
3) Their confidence and experience level is much higher after winning a State Title
4) Home cooking

I would be happy with a 10-6 victory over the Stangs of NS.

[twcpfan1]

Well, then, that would be the most 3 recent losses only which hardly makes it the norm. I take those losses and lump them in with the team history from when they started becoming a frequent winner.

I wouldn't predict a Katy blowout of NS especially for the first game of the season. It should be another entertaining battle like last year. I would give Katy the edge for these reasons though:
1) Most of last years team returns
2) They are bigger, faster and stronger than last year.
3) Their confidence and experience level is much higher after winning a State Title
4) Home cooking

I would be happy with a 10-6 victory over the Stangs of NS.

Yeah Katy should be favored. Just like you, I'm not predicting a blowout. Game's a tossup really. Turnovers could decide it. Probably should expect some early in the season.

[Bass]

www.highlanderfootball.net

(They count McC wins and losses in their History section. They were known as The Highlanders)

We had to have a HS in this area or we'd be all morons and McC was the only one at the time and it morphed into TWHS. When TWHS opened, it was never considered a new school.

You are right though. We need to terminate the history lesson. I was merely pointing out previous Katy losses and how they have always been to teams with superb athletes. 08 Woodz are just one of those teams. No idea how we even started discussing previous games. As it relates to NS, they typically field very good athletes and for that reason I think the game will be close.
I bet it was Farmer's fault.

[Dynastybegan86]

BUMP for 300

[Mr. Rod]

BUMP for 300

I call... and raise ya 3 bumps.

I know worthless post but oh well.

[Dynastybegan86]

I call... and raise ya 3 bumps.

I know worthless post but oh well.

How was Northshore's spring game? How did they look? This game will be another nail biter, can't wait!!

[Mr. Rod]

How was Northshore's spring game? How did they look? This game will be another nail biter, can't wait!!

I was informed it wasn't until the 4th. Did u hear something different?

[Dynastybegan86]

I was informed it wasn't until the 4th. Did u hear something different?

Ooops!:o Wasn't for sure, let us know after the 4th!:D

[Mr. Rod]

Ooops!:o Wasn't for sure, let us know after the 4th!:D

Will do

[dada]

Bumb

[Miss Kitty]

Fine, I am here Dada. Are you happy with me now? :)

[Fleeman93]

Katy by 10+.

[dada]

Fine, I am here Dada. Are you happy with me now? :)

See what I have to do to get your attention....every since you got married I've had to beg for your attention. I hate your husband!...he's keeping you away from me.

[Miss Kitty]

See what I have to do to get your attention....every since you got married I've had to beg for your attention. I hate your husband!...he's keeping you away from me.

I'll be sure and let him know that. :) I shall try to do better by you.

[dada]

I'll be sure and let him know that. :) I shall try to do better by you.

NOOOOOOOOO....Don't tell him. Let me just look at him and have evil thoughts......while I smile at him. He doesnt have to know...lol

[Miss Kitty]

NOOOOOOOOO....Don't tell him. Let me just look at him and have evil thoughts......while I smile at him. He doesnt have to know...lol

okay, it's a deal. :)

[dada]

OK...North Shore fans...come on you can't sit back and play the "Katy is overlooking us....they already think they will win, we will surprise them" card.....:D...Some have you have been using that.

North Shore can't sneak up on ANYONE...and NO ONE...including KATY can chalk them up as an easy win.

[Miss Kitty]

North Shore = Easy game is to Cowboy Troy = Rap

[dada]

North Shore = Easy game is to Cowboy Troy = Rap

I don't know how you pulled that off, but you actually insulted rap...lol

[85Roughneck]

I don't know how you pulled that off, but you actually insulted rap...lol

... and I'm OK with that. :cool:

[cougmantx]

Let's hear a little about how your spring game went. It was on the 4th wasn't it. Who are the returning leaders...any new surprises?

It's never to early for dada to start some trouble....:D

[dada]

Let's hear a little about how your spring game went. It was on the 4th wasn't it. Who are the returning leaders...any new surprises?

It's never to early for dada to start some trouble....:D

not trying to start trouble...but THIS is the test. I think we are getting to caught up in the Bellevue game...I am atleast, and forgetting that it's the 3rd game of the season.
:D

[dada]

... and I'm OK with that. :cool:

I didnt think it was possible.:D

[cougmantx]

not trying to start trouble...but THIS is the test. I think we are getting to caught up in the Bellevue game...I am atleast, and forgetting that it's the 3rd game of the season.
:D

I agree, this is the test. I was just jealous of your flirting with Miss. Kitty and wanted to give you a hard time...:D

[85Roughneck]

In contrast to the Bellevue game, I think Katy will win the game against NorthShore because of x-factors. Both teams will bring a good team to the field of battle. Both teams have tradition of sorts. Both teams are very well-coached. Both teams are known to some extent to have talented and/or athletic players on both teams every year. Both teams have good offensive and defensive schemes.

The X-factors are as follows:
Playing in Katy in front of the Red Sea (always imposing)
NorthShore has had coaching changes (could be a distraction/hindrance)

Non X-factor reasons as to why I believe Katy will win is that even as inexperienced as Katy was last year they still held the NorthShore machine to 10 and was arguably the toughest win NS had all year. If that one pass had been caught it it highly probable that Katy would have won that game. I'm just sayin' ... Add this in as well, the roles are reversed somewhat this year with Katy having more experience, talent, and athletes in different critical positions. I'm not saying that Katy has more kids that have all three of these traits but more individuals that possess at least one or more of these traits overall.

One more thing ... While NorthShore has a record streak going that is very impressive Katy has a streak going as well. IMO, the odds in this case favor Katy keeping their streak going as opposed to NS keeping theirs going. If Katy goes undefeated and wins state they not only maintain their streak of winning State but they also end NorthShore's streak of regular season wins. Both teams are hungry to win, but I believe Katy takes this one. Katy has more to prove to NorthShore than NorthShore has to prove to Katy which, I believe, makes Katy a tad bit more hungry for a W.

Go KATY !!! Go TIGERS !!! Win state in '09 !!!

[dada]

In contrast to the Bellevue game, I think Katy will win the game against NorthShore because of x-factors. Both teams will bring a good team to the field of battle. Both teams have tradition of sorts. Both teams are very well-coached. Both teams are known to some extent to have talented and/or athletic players on both teams every year. Both teams have good offensive and defensive schemes.

The X-factors are as follows:
Playing in Katy in front of the Red Sea (always imposing)
NorthShore has had coaching changes (could be a distraction/hindrance)

Non X-factor reasons as to why I believe Katy will win is that even as inexperienced as Katy was last year they still held the NorthShore machine to 10 and was arguably the toughest win NS had all year. If that one pass had been caught it it highly probable that Katy would have won that game. I'm just sayin' ... Add this in as well, the roles are reversed somewhat this year with Katy having more experience, talent, and athletes in different critical positions. I'm not saying that Katy has more kids that have all three of these traits but more individuals that possess at least one or more of these traits overall.

One more thing ... While NorthShore has a record streak going that is very impressive Katy has a streak going as well. IMO, the odds in this case favor Katy keeping their streak going as opposed to NS keeping theirs going. If Katy goes undefeated and wins state they not only maintain their streak of winning State but they also end NorthShore's streak of regular season wins. Both teams are hungry to win, but I believe Katy takes this one. Katy has more to prove to NorthShore than NorthShore has to prove to Katy which, I believe, makes Katy a tad bit more hungry for a W.

Go KATY !!! Go TIGERS !!! Win state in '09 !!!

But North Shore has some X factors that could work for them on a level playing field. Size and Speed. We ALL know Katy's O line starts slow....if they can't controll the LOS, nothing happens. Busted plays.....they have explosive players that can turn a busted play into a positive. Katy can't afford to have busted plays IMO. It's hard to try to find and develop a rhythm when you have defenders in your face. Before you disown me, I'm STILL pulling for Katy:D...I just think this will be the toughest game of the regular season, for two reasons WHO Katy is playing, and WHEN.

[dada]

I agree, this is the test. I was just jealous of your flirting with Miss. Kitty and wanted to give you a hard time...:D

I fear MR. Kitty...lol

[rwilleby]

One factor none of our opponents will have that we will have...

The "Champion Factor"...

1) Prove it to Yourself,
2) Prove it to your Team,
3) Prove it to your Community,
4) Prove it to your Opponent,
5) Believe.

[dada]

One factor none of our opponents will have that we will have...

The "Champion Factor"...

1) Prove it to Yourself,
2) Prove it to your Team,
3) Prove it to your Community,
4) Prove it to your Opponent,
5) Believe.
6) Do it for Dada
Agreed! I can't remember what coach said it, he said "No one in Texas can take this from you, but you can GIVE it to anyone."

[rwilleby]

HEY! I see what you did there! :)

[Fleeman93]

Agreed! I can't remember what coach said it, he said "No one in Texas can take this from you, but you can GIVE it to anyone."

Every player on that team should hear that quote every single day of the season. I believe it to be 100% true this year.

[slcdragonfan]

One factor none of our opponents will have that we will have...

The "Champion Factor"...

1) Prove it to Yourself,
2) Prove it to your Team,
3) Prove it to your Community,
4) Prove it to your Opponent,
5) Believe.

You think none of your opponents think/act/believe that way? OR are you saying this is the Katy slogan and no one else has it?

[E-Vol-ution]

Your coach told you so......right?
What does beating the champion make somebody?
One factor none of our opponents will have that we will have...

The "Champion Factor"...

1) Prove it to Yourself,
2) Prove it to your Team,
3) Prove it to your Community,
4) Prove it to your Opponent,
5) Believe.

[Fleeman93]

Your coach told you so......right?
What does beating the champion make somebody?

Kind of goes back to what I have said about the program/team idea. The Katy program won a championship in 2007 and 2008. This Katy team hasn't won anything. Yes, some of the players on the 2009 team were on the 2008 team but the 2009 team hasn't proven anything YET.

[slcdragonfan]

Agreed! I can't remember what coach said it, he said "No one in Texas can take this from you, but you can GIVE it to anyone."

I like that quote...

[Favpack]

Salinas from the Shore is a bad dude. Wouldn't surprise me to see a real game - but NS has a lot to replace on the O side.

[dada]

Salinas from the Shore is a bad dude. Wouldn't surprise me to see a real game - but NS has a lot to replace on the O side.

Salinas is gone...and yes...kid was a beast.

[twcpfan1]

Agreed! I can't remember what coach said it, he said "No one in Texas can take this from you, but you can GIVE it to anyone."

You can narrow it down to 2 coaches. Either Venus or Serena Williams. The opponent never has anything to do with winning or losing.

[85Roughneck]

But North Shore has some X factors that could work for them on a level playing field. Size and Speed. We ALL know Katy's O line starts slow....if they can't controll the LOS, nothing happens. Busted plays.....they have explosive players that can turn a busted play into a positive. Katy can't afford to have busted plays IMO. It's hard to try to find and develop a rhythm when you have defenders in your face. Before you disown me, I'm STILL pulling for Katy:D...I just think this will be the toughest game of the regular season, for two reasons WHO Katy is playing, and WHEN.

... just for clarity, I don't consider the above bolded portion of your comment X-factors. I consider those in the mix of the NON X-factors I mentioned in my post. There are part of the game and well-known by most that follow these programs. All things considered I agree with your post for the most part, but I think Katy has an overall advantage this year and more hunger for the W.

[E-Vol-ution]

That's what I'm saying.......nobody has a championship this year. All anybody needs is a six game win streak when it counts.Kind of goes back to what I have said about the program/team idea. The Katy program won a championship in 2007 and 2008. This Katy team hasn't won anything. Yes, some of the players on the 2009 team were on the 2008 team but the 2009 team hasn't proven anything YET.

[rwilleby]

You think none of your opponents think/act/believe that way? OR are you saying this is the Katy slogan and no one else has it?

Ha! No, it's not unique to Katy... I can tell you that many of our opponents in the past did not believe this way or more importantly, play this way... Even if they said so... But then, a few times neither did Katy...

I look at this game like this... Northshore squeaked by last year, they gave us hope... The Woodlands beat the crapola out of us and embarrassed us all... Then we didn't "play anyone" to get the title... Now, if I'm one of the leaders of this years team I'm looking to go out and prove we can play ball with anyone... and win... No one respected this team after game two... Many didn't even after game 16...

Now, as a fan, and that's all I am, my expectations are that they take the humiliation from 2008, learn from it and turn it into a 16-0 season... Maybe they will... Maybe they won't... But I do believe they can... The question is, do they?

[rwilleby]

Your coach told you so......right?
What does beating the champion make somebody?

Well, I forgot I'm not on the Katy board... It should have read "The Heart of a Champion"...

[slcdragonfan]

Ha! No, it's not unique to Katy... I can tell you that many of our opponents in the past did not believe this way or more importantly, play this way... Even if they said so... But then, a few times neither did Katy...

I look at this game like this... Northshore squeaked by last year, they gave us hope... The Woodlands beat the crapola out of us and embarrassed us all... Then we didn't "play anyone" to get the title... Now, if I'm one of the leaders of this years team I'm looking to go out and prove we can play ball with anyone... and win... No one respected this team after game two... Many didn't even after game 16...

Now, as a fan, and that's all I am, my expectations are that they take the humiliation from 2008, learn from it and turn it into a 16-0 season... Maybe they will... Maybe they won't... But I do believe they can... The question is, do they?

ok, gotcha. However, I think that most anybody who is a fan of HS football in the state of Texas appreciates the significant turn-around accomplished by Katy after the Woodlands game. I am on record as saying last years team is my favorite Katy team due to the adversity and TEAM effort. Even Katy fans were saying they couldn't do it. I don't think Katy has anything to prove at all this year, they just need to go be the best they can be and see what falls out. 16-0 is the goal for us all.

I am also hoping that we can play an unbeaten NS and have the opportunity to bust their regular season record. ;)

[rwilleby]

ok, gotcha. However, I think that most anybody who is a fan of HS football in the state of Texas appreciates the significant turn-around accomplished by Katy after the Woodlands game. I am on record as saying last years team is my favorite Katy team due to the adversity and TEAM effort. Even Katy fans were saying they couldn't do it. I don't think Katy has anything to prove at all this year, they just need to go be the best they can be and see what falls out. 16-0 is the goal for us all.

I am also hoping that we can play an unbeaten NS and have the opportunity to bust their regular season record. ;)

Ha! Well I would have thought that of anyone you would appreciate the record busting capability of the Katy Tigers...

Another hope of mine is to see Katy and SLC in game 16 this year... :)

[cougmantx]

Ha! Well I would have thought that of anyone you would appreciate the record busting capability of the Katy Tigers...

Another hope of mine is to see Katy and SLC in game 16 this year... :)

I second that!

[Pool Man]

Agreed! I can't remember what coach said it, he said "No one in Texas can take this from you, but you can GIVE it to anyone."

That was Coach Miller sometime in '07. Maybe before the state game.

[Pool Man]

Ha! Well I would have thought that of anyone you would appreciate the record busting capability of the Katy Tigers...

Another hope of mine is to see Katy and SLC in game 16 this year... :)

I love playing those guys. We've had a couple of good games and a couple of near misses where we almost got to play, but there is tremendous respect for each other on both sides of the field when we get together.

[Pool Man]

In contrast to the Bellevue game, I think Katy will win the game against NorthShore because of x-factors. Both teams will bring a good team to the field of battle. Both teams have tradition of sorts. Both teams are very well-coached. Both teams are known to some extent to have talented and/or athletic players on both teams every year. Both teams have good offensive and defensive schemes.

The X-factors are as follows:
Playing in Katy in front of the Red Sea (always imposing)
NorthShore has had coaching changes (could be a distraction/hindrance)

Non X-factor reasons as to why I believe Katy will win is that even as inexperienced as Katy was last year they still held the NorthShore machine to 10 and was arguably the toughest win NS had all year. If that one pass had been caught it it highly probable that Katy would have won that game. I'm just sayin' ... Add this in as well, the roles are reversed somewhat this year with Katy having more experience, talent, and athletes in different critical positions. I'm not saying that Katy has more kids that have all three of these traits but more individuals that possess at least one or more of these traits overall.

One more thing ... While NorthShore has a record streak going that is very impressive Katy has a streak going as well. IMO, the odds in this case favor Katy keeping their streak going as opposed to NS keeping theirs going. If Katy goes undefeated and wins state they not only maintain their streak of winning State but they also end NorthShore's streak of regular season wins. Both teams are hungry to win, but I believe Katy takes this one. Katy has more to prove to NorthShore than NorthShore has to prove to Katy which, I believe, makes Katy a tad bit more hungry for a W.

Go KATY !!! Go TIGERS !!! Win state in '09 !!!

Don't forget that NS made some critical mistakes too in that game. It looked as if we were both trying to find ourselves that night. I hope that both teams come into this one a little more sharp than they did last year, but I think your right in that Katy may be a tad more hungry. It seems as if there's an excitement around here that I've never seen. I know there was high expectations of the '07 team, but I don't remember the "buzz" starting as early with them as it has with this team.

[BIG RED]

I look for Katy to run up and down the field. O Line will determine how well.

I look for a season full of two TE sets.

From the looks or our RB roster and hopefuls, we might not have to pass at all this year. We could have two 1,000 yard rushers this year.

This is gonna be fun!

26-8 Katy.

[Bass]

With a new offensive coordinator, will North Shore run the zone read as much as they did last year? Or will they focus on pounding Tracy Woods from the I or singleback and hope to wear Katy down in the middle?

I really don't know what North Shore's set is.

[dada]

I look for Katy to run up and down the field. O Line will determine how well.

I look for a season full of two TE sets.

From the looks or our RB roster and hopefuls, we might not have to pass at all this year. We could have two 1,000 yard rushers this year.

This is gonna be fun!

26-8 Katy.

Had two 1000 yard rushers last year....could have THREE this season...lol

[Kat-na-hat]

Had two 1000 yard rushers last year....could have THREE this season...lol

I wonder if that would be some kind of record? three, 1000 yard rushers.

[KT2000]

I look for Katy to run up and down the field. O Line will determine how well.

North Shore did graduate several players on defense, but they are just going to reload with more of what Katy saw last year. NS usually has one of the best defenses I see every season.

I don't expect Katy to open the season in top gear, especially against an opponent as talented as North Shore. I think the talent is there for the Tigers this year, but the team process is going to take time as it always does.

NS is a high caliber opponent every year.

[BIG RED]

Had two 1000 yard rushers last year....could have THREE this season...lol

That would be sick! Who can you see as the third? I heard about a possible surprise back, but have not details.

[dada]

That would be sick! Who can you see as the third? I heard about a possible surprise back, but have not details.

Donovonn Young
Will Jeffrey
Vernon Jeffries

[KT2000]

Donovonn Young
Will Jeffrey
Vernon Jeffries

Two is certainly possible, but I don't think there are enough carries for three to hit that mark since Katy isn't running an option offense.

[cougmantx]

Two is certainly possible, but I don't think there are enough carries for three to hit that mark since Katy isn't running an option offense.

Well now that would all depend on how long the runs were! :D

[W Dawg]

Don't overlook the state champ in the 200 meters and one of the top WR prospects in the nation in Deandrew White.


Tracy Woods is Back.....and a HUGE O Line.



Yes, I've been doing my homework:cool:

[W Dawg]

Hopefully North Shore will spread the field more to get the ball to Deandrew White more.


With a new offensive coordinator, will North Shore run the zone read as much as they did last year? Or will they focus on pounding Tracy Woods from the I or singleback and hope to wear Katy down in the middle?

I really don't know what North Shore's set is.

[dada]

Don't overlook the state champ in the 200 meters and one of the top WR prospects in the nation in Deandrew White.

Keep reading...you'll see that I brought him up

[Kat-na-hat]

[quote=Bass;1210954]With a new offensive coordinator, will North Shore run the zone read as much as they did last year? Or will they focus on pounding Tracy Woods from the I or singleback and hope to wear Katy down in the middle?

A lot depends on the new QB and what he can do against a stout Katy D. First game jitters...........

[dada]

[quote=Bass;1210954]With a new offensive coordinator, will North Shore run the zone read as much as they did last year? Or will they focus on pounding Tracy Woods from the I or singleback and hope to wear Katy down in the middle?

A lot depends on the new QB and what he can do against a stout Katy D. First game jitters...........

I think that works both ways.....Stock/Haack will have to pull their best Bo Levi impersonations against a speedy D. Either way, I hope it's a close competitive game.....a lopsided win doesnt do anything for either team who both have killer schedules. Both teams should come out of this game knowing their strengths and weaknesses and make the proper adjustments for a tough non-district schedule.

[Kat-na-hat]

[quote=Kat-na-hat;1211485]

I think that works both ways.....Stock/Haack will have to pull their best Bo Levi impersonations against a speedy D. Either way, I hope it's a close competitive game.....a lopsided win doesnt do anything for either team who both have killer schedules. Both teams should come out of this game knowing their strengths and weaknesses and make the proper adjustments for a tough non-district schedule.


If I were playing the odds, I'll take the Katy Senior QB over the NS Jr. QB. Defense for NS is always there and sure to make this a great game. Even if the QB is not where he needs to be a great WR can make them look good.

[Maddog2020]

If NS offense keeps Katy off balance with a passing attack, NS wins. If NS tries to pound the ball all night, Katy wins in a close one at home. Teams that try to manhandle the Katy defense with the run game are usually not successful. Game should have been played at Rice or Reliant. It will be standing room only. Good Luck to both Teams! We will see Katy the next week.

[Bass]

If NS offense keeps Katy off balance with a passing attack, NS wins. If NS tries to pound the ball all night, Katy wins in a close one at home. Teams that try to manhandle the Katy defense with the run game are usually not successful. Game should have been played at Rice or Reliant. It will be standing room only. Good Luck to both Teams! We will see Katy the next week.

That's the best part of these big games. 12,000 people crammed into a 10,000-seat stadium. :notworthy

[twcpfan1]

In the grand scheme of things, this game and the one against Woodz in Week 1 is pretty much meaningless except maybe for Region/City bragging rights. Even the pre season Top 25 suggests that Region 3/4 D2 has very little in the way of being able to stop Katy's run to the state Finals.

No R3 small schools at all.

Then you have Madison and SV out of R4 at the bottom half of the list (still a little high IMO)

Katy breezes into the Finals. The easy run should be a big advantage once they get there.

[ftballin11]

In the grand scheme of things, this game and the one against Woodz in Week 1 is pretty much meaningless except maybe for Region/City bragging rights. Even the pre season Top 25 suggests that Region 3/4 D2 has very little in the way of being able to stop Katy's run to the state Finals.

No R3 small schools at all.

Then you have Madison and SV out of R4 at the bottom half of the list (still a little high IMO)

Katy breezes into the Finals. The easy run should be a big advantage once they get there.

Dang already starting.