SLC/Katy analysis

[Favpack]

Great game today - both teams played very hard. Katy made some mental erros in the red zone on at least 3 occassions - that hurts and was probably the game-breakers for them.

I felt SLC's D was simply too good. Katy played a power game most of the day - it moved the ball but stalled out in the red zone- in addition to the picks/red zone errors.

I felt the No. 1 key was SLC going up 17-0 - that's just too much to make up. The second key was SLC holding Katy to a fg to make it 17-13 rather than tying it up. Then Katy really lost all momentum when SLC went up 24-13.

Katy's D played very well - certainly well enough to win. In the end I think Katy need more quick developing plays - the counters did not work well - just too slow developing. I felt SLC had the better plan today - Katy went with what brought 'em - but they just needed more speed.

Hats off to both teams - a good game. McElroy was clearly the MVP today for SLC - he made the big plays and had the time to throw. Many throws were difficult ones and he made some beautiful throws on the move.

Katy certainly was in the hunt, moreso than the score indicated. Turnovers were the difference.

[ktchamp97]

Going into the game, I felt like if the SLC defense forced even 1 turnover, it would be too much for the Tigers to overcome.

Any time you turn the ball over 3 times inside the +30 and miss a FG too, you are going to have a hard time winning...Against Carroll, you've got no shot.

I was extremely impressed by the Dragon front 7. Those guys were the difference in the game.

[Favpack]

Going into the game, I felt like if the SLC defense forced even 1 turnover, it would be too much for the Tigers to overcome.

Any time you turn the ball over 3 times inside the +30 and miss a FG too, you are going to have a hard time winning...Against Carroll, you've got no shot.

I was extremely impressed by the Dragon front 7. Those guys were the difference in the game.

I felt Plano and Lufkin exposed the front 7 as not being all-world - good, but not great. Both did it with speed and quickness. Thompson's success on the flair pass told me Katy had plenty enough speed - but there were only a few occassions they did the quick strike play. The slow bootlegs allowed the SLC lbackers to drop nicely and mess things up - at least 4 tipped balls - two resulting in picks. Dalton played better than the stats indicated - but not quite enough.

Plus - and a big plus - I think the SLC front 7 stepped it up a big notch today -they played very well indeed. Congrats!

[toonman]

Step 1 in beating Southlake Carroll - If you win the toss do not defer. By kicking off to SLC and SLC scores, as Katy did, Katy was chasing the game right from the start. How many times has that happened this season? Opposing coaches effectively gift the lead to Southlake and then spend all the game playing catch up. If SLC wins the toss they always elect to receive. That should you tell something. Why play into the hands of the best team and give them what they want.

[southlake thug]

SLC has Mcelroy - that's it.

[Red Raiders]

If Katy knew how to block 5 WR, than the game would have come out better and also I was not impressed with Katy QB because he was all over by Southlake Carroll like Chase Daniel was all over by Smithson Valley last year. I am impressed rest of the Katy Players but I was impressed at first with the QB in like 3rd quarter and than he just collapse. Katy was doing better in 3rd Quarter. Southlake Carroll is def. one of the best team in history 5A is what I believe beside Galena Park North Shore.

[drgnbkr]

SLC has Mcelroy - that's it.

Hey thug..nice meeting you! Saw you on the field after the game...were you carrying Mc's helmet for him?......:D

[Red Raiders]

SLC has Mcelroy - that's it.

I think Chase Daniel was better but this year they had other good players like Clint Renfro or Jacobsen.

[SLC13]

Step 1 in beating Southlake Carroll - If you win the toss do not defer. By kicking off to SLC and SLC scores, as Katy did, Katy was chasing the game right from the start. How many times has that happened this season? Opposing coaches effectively gift the lead to Southlake and then spend all the game playing catch up. If SLC wins the toss they always elect to receive. That should you tell something. Why play into the hands of the best team and give them what they want.
You are dead on toonman........Teams did that all year and then played catchup the rest of the game . Can't understand why more coaches would give us the ball first, when that's clearly what we want.....:confused:

[Grapeguy]

Kudos to kicker Ryan Murray! He had a great game. I know the Dragon faithful have been nervous since Ortega got hurt. Not bad to have your best effort in the championship game.

[Grapeguy]

Does anybody have information on the average starting field position for each team? Katy did a great job making the Dragons drive a long way to score. I think the Russo interception gave them their best starting position of the day at their own 35.

[SLC13]

Can someone please explain the two drives early in 4th Qtr??

The Dragons get ball with about 10 min left ahead 24-13. They run the ball a couple plays and get 50+yards to Katy 15 yardline; then throw three straight incompletions and kick a FG.......elapsed time of drive just over 2 minutes!? :eek:

Katy then gets ball after KO with over 7 minutes left, trailing 27-13. They run 5 straight times and then throw interception with now less than 4 minutes left in game!? :eek:

Am I missing some subtle strategy here??.........Coach Dodge, who should be trying to keep clock running is throwing it around and Coach Joseph, who should be trying preserve as much clock as possible is handing off trying to establish his running game.........I don't understand :confused:

[drgnbkr]

Can someone please explain the two drives early in 4th Qtr??

The Dragons get ball with about 10 min left ahead 24-13. They run the ball a couple plays and get 50+yards to Katy 15 yardline; then throw three straight incompletions and kick a FG.......elapsed time of drive just over 2 minutes!? :eek:

Katy then gets ball after KO with over 7 minutes left, trailing 27-13. They run 5 straight times and then throw interception with now less than 4 minutes left in game!? :eek:

Am I missing some subtle strategy here??.........Coach Dodge, who should be trying to keep clock running is throwing it around and Coach Joseph, who should be trying preserve as much clock as possible is handing off trying to establish his running game.........I don't understand :confused:

IMO each coach was trying to do stuff that worked...not do the traditional stuff...it worked very well for Carroll..see score..not for Katy...

[WildcatFan]

Personally I was not that impressed with Katy today they didn't play very well.

In fact I think Plano would have took it to them had they had the chance.

Hats off to both teams and a well deserved win for SLC.

[dragonfan020405]

Originally Posted by toonman
Step 1 in beating Southlake Carroll - If you win the toss do not defer. By kicking off to SLC and SLC scores, as Katy did, Katy was chasing the game right from the start. How many times has that happened this season? Opposing coaches effectively gift the lead to Southlake and then spend all the game playing catch up. If SLC wins the toss they always elect to receive. That should you tell something. Why play into the hands of the best team and give them what they want.


Was Katy trying to be nice because they thought it would be a easy game?over confident ? I'm Confused. But hey its okay b/c Carroll Had the ball first . No problem there!!Maybe they like playing catch up... Rename the sport Catch up to carroll dragons. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[AZTiger]

look now is not the time to say "oh we would have beat them" and that talk

katy and plano are both great teams and ran into the buzzsaw. it's a shame a bunch of you who never saw katy play this year had this as your only game to see them. take away from it what you will, but this was still a great team

[Drag Goon]

Can someone please explain the two drives early in 4th Qtr??

The Dragons get ball with about 10 min left ahead 24-13. They run the ball a couple plays and get 50+yards to Katy 15 yardline; then throw three straight incompletions and kick a FG.......elapsed time of drive just over 2 minutes!? :eek:

Katy then gets ball after KO with over 7 minutes left, trailing 27-13. They run 5 straight times and then throw interception with now less than 4 minutes left in game!? :eek:

Am I missing some subtle strategy here??.........Coach Dodge, who should be trying to keep clock running is throwing it around and Coach Joseph, who should be trying preserve as much clock as possible is handing off trying to establish his running game.........I don't understand :confused:

You have heard of "Wife Swap". This was coach swap. :D

[SLC13]

IMO each coach was trying to do stuff that worked...not do the traditional stuff...it worked very well for Carroll..see score..not for Katy...
I disagree that it worked well for us, Katy remained alive in a game that they should have needed a mircle to win. Unexplainably, the Katy Coach returned the the favor.

I'm pretty certain that a team wins a high percentage of their games when they are ahead by 14 with 7-8 minutes left, but I'm just as certain that they win almost all of the time when ahead by 14 with 4-5 min left and that would have been the situation today with better clock management on that drive.

[Drake]

It looked to me like Katy could actually power run up the middle fairly consistently. Going into the game I didn't think Katy had a chance, but after seeing the game I think they did. The way the Katy offensive linemen were blocking on straight ahead runs made me think they could have shoved it down SLC's throat all game, or at least until SLC overloaded the box, which would have opened things up a bit more for Dalton.

On one crucial drive (when it was 17-10) they had the ball pretty deep in SLC territory and made 8 yards on two up the gut plays but decided to pass for it on 3rd and 2. I think one or two more tries up the middle there would have certainly gotten the first down and probably led to the tying TD. Hindsight is 20/20, but I thought the play selection at that point let SLC off the hook AND abated Katy's momentum...

All in all, it looked like a pretty competitive game, at least on TV... Fox Sports said there was just under 30k in attendance... Was wondering who had more fans?

[AZTiger]

Well I'm sure SLC had more, but I was impressed with Katy's turnout considering the trip.

It was a competitive game, and I think anyone that was there will tell you the same.

[Drake]

Watching on TV it was hard to tell just how quick the SLC receivers were, but they sure looked big, and they sure made some great catches...

[AZTiger]

they were big, but my boy #80 did a great job in coverage on them, just gave up that TD to Fentriss because he was giving up SEVERAL inches on him :)