top ten from dfw?

[alleneaglefan07]

whats your top ten this coming year for the dfw?

[SLC]

1. Allen - I see a 3-5 year run coming for the Plano City Champs. Tom Westerberg keeps the train rolling down the tracks.

2. Cedar Hill - Speed, very physical and more speed. Mc Guire, as always, is damn good.

3. Wylie - Until proven otherwise they are the state runner ups and will return some very good players. Coach Howard is awesome.

4.Trinity - Lets cut the BS on this "not going to be very good" talk. Steve Lineweaver hasn't left town on the TRE so lets quiet the talk of their downfall.

5.Arlington Bowie - Very athletic, Kenny Perry has them boys playing some damn good ball in A town.

6. Hebron - They are the consummate "every year" team. As long as Brazil is there, they will be good every year.

7.Garland - As is the case almost every season, Garland will have plenty of talent on the field and Jordan is a damn good leader, one of the better ones in the Metromess.

8. Marcus - Erwin, Hopkins...Yea, Nuff said. They will be good.

9. Carroll - This will be a good year for the Dragons. Plenty of returning talent and a coach that will be chomping at the bit to prove he has what it takes to return the Green Machine to prominance.

10. Lake Highlands - Talent is an abundance in the part Dallas/part Richardson school and Scott Smith has been getting the Wildcats headed in the right direction and should continue it.

[ALLENFANDINGO5]

1. Allen - I see a 3-5 year run coming for the Plano City Champs. Tom Westerberg keeps the train rolling down the tracks.

2. Cedar Hill - Speed, very physical and more speed. Mc Guire, as always, is damn good.

3. Wylie - Until proven otherwise they are the state runner ups and will return some very good players. Coach Howard is awesome.

4.Trinity - Lets cut the BS on this "not going to be very good" talk. Steve Lineweaver hasn't left town on the TRE so lets quiet the talk of their downfall.

5.Arlington Bowie - Very athletic, Kenny Perry has them boys playing some damn good ball in A town.

6. Hebron - They are the consummate "every year" team. As long as Brazil is there, they will be good every year.

7.Garland - As is the case almost every season, Garland will have plenty of talent on the field and Jordan is a damn good leader, one of the better ones in the Metromess.

8. Marcus - Erwin, Hopkins...Yea, Nuff said. They will be good.

9. Carroll - This will be a good year for the Dragons. Plenty of returning talent and a coach that will be chomping at the bit to prove he has what it takes to return the Green Machine to prominance.

10. Lake Highlands - Talent is an abundance in the part Dallas/part Richardson school and Scott Smith has been getting the Wildcats headed in the right direction and should continue it.
I think you are almost dead on with the exception of Carroll and Wylie. Wylie down a couple of slots and Carroll up a couple. IMO Carroll's defense should be better and Wylie will have to shore up an Oline to maintain their current success.

[Bass]

DeSoto has a whole heck of a lot of talent coming back this year. What do y'all think of them?

[SamRizzle]

DeSoto has a whole heck of a lot of talent coming back this year. What do y'all think of them?

Took the words right out of my mouth.

DeSoto should be really good next season.

[SLC93]

DeSoto has a whole heck of a lot of talent coming back this year. What do y'all think of them?

Hard to really ever gage those guys. DeSoto is typically drenched in talent but are just as likely to break your heart as walk you down the aisle. If the right staff ever took that program, they;d be annual contenders. I never put money on them. They have to show me every week.

[SLC93]

1. Allen - I see a 3-5 year run coming for the Plano City Champs. Tom Westerberg keeps the train rolling down the tracks.

2. Cedar Hill - Speed, very physical and more speed. Mc Guire, as always, is damn good.

3. Wylie - Until proven otherwise they are the state runner ups and will return some very good players. Coach Howard is awesome.

4.Trinity - Lets cut the BS on this "not going to be very good" talk. Steve Lineweaver hasn't left town on the TRE so lets quiet the talk of their downfall.

5.Arlington Bowie - Very athletic, Kenny Perry has them boys playing some damn good ball in A town.

6. Hebron - They are the consummate "every year" team. As long as Brazil is there, they will be good every year.

7.Garland - As is the case almost every season, Garland will have plenty of talent on the field and Jordan is a damn good leader, one of the better ones in the Metromess.

8. Marcus - Erwin, Hopkins...Yea, Nuff said. They will be good.

9. Carroll - This will be a good year for the Dragons. Plenty of returning talent and a coach that will be chomping at the bit to prove he has what it takes to return the Green Machine to prominance.

10. Lake Highlands - Talent is an abundance in the part Dallas/part Richardson school and Scott Smith has been getting the Wildcats headed in the right direction and should continue it.

I like the list but the order is probably off. Chill will be there but they lost a ton off of that oline. They'll needd most of the season to get that unit to gel. Also replacing the dcoordinator so a new voice is in their heads for the 3 straight season. Wylie lost the star qb and a portion of their line from their first deep run. To me, they're still in show me mode. I love Perry and Bowie but this is a big year for them. After two outstanding runs, most of the talent that drove them is gone, most notably Christian Matthews. Now that they've established a winner they'll have to show they can replace the best qb in their schools history and move forward.(Spare me the Sherrod Harris crap. Matthews has serious potential). So, I'd prolly go.

1) Allen
2) Carroll - no homerism, we're bouncing big this season
3) Trinity
4) Garland
5) Cedar Hill
6) Hebron
7) Wylie
8) Bowie
9) Marcus
10) Lake Highlands

[E-Vol-ution]

I like the list but feel Desoto will be on it this year......true, they disappointed when counted on, but this team looks promising. Sleeper is Arlington...they have one of their best teams with lots of experience. We should do well since the QB (Davis) has plenty of real time experience, knows the system and the recieving crop may be the best ever at Bowie.
1. Allen - I see a 3-5 year run coming for the Plano City Champs. Tom Westerberg keeps the train rolling down the tracks.

2. Cedar Hill - Speed, very physical and more speed. Mc Guire, as always, is damn good.

3. Wylie - Until proven otherwise they are the state runner ups and will return some very good players. Coach Howard is awesome.

4.Trinity - Lets cut the BS on this "not going to be very good" talk. Steve Lineweaver hasn't left town on the TRE so lets quiet the talk of their downfall.

5.Arlington Bowie - Very athletic, Kenny Perry has them boys playing some damn good ball in A town.

6. Hebron - They are the consummate "every year" team. As long as Brazil is there, they will be good every year.

7.Garland - As is the case almost every season, Garland will have plenty of talent on the field and Jordan is a damn good leader, one of the better ones in the Metromess.

8. Marcus - Erwin, Hopkins...Yea, Nuff said. They will be good.

9. Carroll - This will be a good year for the Dragons. Plenty of returning talent and a coach that will be chomping at the bit to prove he has what it takes to return the Green Machine to prominance.

10. Lake Highlands - Talent is an abundance in the part Dallas/part Richardson school and Scott Smith has been getting the Wildcats headed in the right direction and should continue it.

[E-Vol-ution]

Why'd you name Chill twice? lol....I know it's a mistake.I like the list but the order is probably off. Chill will be there but they lost a ton off of that oline. They'll needd most of the season to get that unit to gel. Also replacing the dcoordinator so a new voice is in their heads for the 3 straight season. Wylie lost the star qb and a portion of their line from their first deep run. To me, they're still in show me mode. I love Perry and Bowie but this is a big year for them. After two outstanding runs, most of the talent that drove them is gone, most notably Christian Matthews. Now that they've established a winner they'll have to show they can replace the best qb in their schools history and move forward.(Spare me the Sherrod Harris crap. Matthews has serious potential). So, I'd prolly go.

1) Allen
2) Carroll - no homerism, we're bouncing big this season
3) Trinity
4) Garland
5) Cedar Hill
6) Hebron
7) Cedar Hill
8) Bowie
9) Marcus
10) Lake Highlands

[bowiedawgs01]

Chill is so good their JV is Top 10.

:D

[SLC93]

Why'd you name Chill twice? lol....I know it's a mistake.

Oop! Fixed it.:o

[SLC93]

I like the list but feel Desoto will be on it this year......true, they disappointed when counted on, but this team looks promising. Sleeper is Arlington...they have one of their best teams with lots of experience. We should do well since the QB (Davis) has plenty of real time experience, knows the system and the recieving crop may be the best ever at Bowie.

Desoto will be a comer. I just need to see them do it, week in and week out. It's always a consistency issue with them and that is directly attributed to their coaching staff being a few notches below teams like Chill, Bowie and, now Duncanville.

Are we talking about Arlington high? I thought they returned around 20 starters last season. Surely most of those kids are gone. I don't remember them starting all sophs on their varsity two years ago.:confused::D

[E-Vol-ution]

Yep...that Arlington High......Joeckel is back at QB along with a bunch of 300lb dudes and a good RB. They keep a few athletes out there too with a couple of young bucks that will produce. Check out their roster that is returning...........Desoto will be a comer. I just need to see them do it, week in and week out. It's always a consistency issue with them and that is directly attributed to their coaching staff being a few notches below teams like Chill, Bowie and, now Duncanville.

Are we talking about Arlington high? I thought they returned around 20 starters last season. Surely most of those kids are gone. I don't remember them starting all sophs on their varsity two years ago.:confused::D

[SLC93]

Yep...that Arlington High......Joeckel is back at QB along with a bunch of 300lb dudes and a good RB. They keep a few athletes out there too with a couple of young bucks that will produce. Check out their roster that is returning...........

But who are they returning with experience? How many of those 17 starters they returned last season aer back this year? A returning qb is a great place to start, no doubt. Are you basing your projections off of their subvarsity units and how they've performed?

[grayowl60]

Duncanville....Naaman....Mesquite....Skyline....?

[farmerfan]

Desoto will be a comer. I just need to see them do it, week in and week out. It's always a consistency issue with them and that is directly attributed to their coaching staff being a few notches below teams like Chill, Bowie and, now Duncanville.

Are we talking about Arlington high? I thought they returned around 20 starters last season. Surely most of those kids are gone. I don't remember them starting all sophs on their varsity two years ago.:confused::D

Duncanville under Bob Alpert showed what the schools in that area what could come with a good coaching staff. He had Duncanville competing for titles early in his tenure on Camp Wisdom and won one in 98. DeSoto is the last one left in regards to doing something , though many from South Dallas County will attempt to argue they were a Byron Hanspard ankle away from winning a title in 93. Of course I disagree with that bigtime ;)

[E-Vol-ution]

I'm basing it on so much of the core group returning along with some of the guys I saw play in the sub-varsity units. This group will definitely be a much better performer......how far they go? I don't know, just taking notice of a sleeper.
But who are they returning with experience? How many of those 17 starters they returned last season aer back this year? A returning qb is a great place to start, no doubt. Are you basing your projections off of their subvarsity units and how they've performed?

[slcdragonfan]

Duncanville....Naaman....Mesquite....Skyline....?

D'ville - dark horse, just who I was thinking about as well;
Naaman - from the thread that was on here about the coach leaving and the kids quitting, no. They have the talent, but not the spirit, and a coaching change will be a problem there this year from following that thread. Sad...
Mesquite - don't know;
Skyline - yep, deserve some attention.

But for the most part I agree with SLC/SLC93, some mix thereof.

[33Blood]

1) Allen-Bringing back a lot from a great team.
2) Trinity-Always strong
3) Desoto-Loaded with talent
4) Garland-QB back from a good team
5) Marcus-Erwin has some pieces coming back from a good team.
6) Cedar Hill-Athletes
7) Skyline-Lot back from good team
8) Arl. Bowie-Talent at key spots
9) Arlington-MVP QB and 2 good receivers back.
10)Hebron-Should be back to double digit wins after an off year compared to the last few.

[Fleeman93]

1) Allen-Bringing back a lot from a great team.
2) Trinity-Always strong
3) Desoto-Loaded with talent
4) Garland-QB back from a good team
5) Marcus-Erwin has some pieces coming back from a good team.
6) Cedar Hill-Athletes
7) Skyline-Lot back from good team
8) Arl. Bowie-Talent at key spots
9) Arlington-MVP QB and 2 good receivers back.
10)Hebron-Should be back to double digit wins after an off year compared to the last few.

Funny to me that an SLC fan had them at 2 on his list yet you don't mention them. One of you two have to be wrong.

[slcdragonfan]

Funny to me that an SLC fan had them at 2 on his list yet you don't mention them. One of you two have to be wrong.

What do you care, other than to try and bait an SLC fan?;)

...I'd like to purchase an argument....

[33Blood]

Funny to me that an SLC fan had them at 2 on his list yet you don't mention them. One of you two have to be wrong.

I have no faith in the current coaching staff in Southlake. Not trying to bait anyone. Since I am from up there, my kids started out there and they aren't on our schedule I hope they win it all. But my opinion is they won't with Hal at the helm.

[dragonpants]

1. Allen - I see a 3-5 year run coming for the Plano City Champs. Tom Westerberg keeps the train rolling down the tracks.

2. Cedar Hill - Speed, very physical and more speed. Mc Guire, as always, is damn good.

3. Wylie - Until proven otherwise they are the state runner ups and will return some very good players. Coach Howard is awesome.

4.Trinity - Lets cut the BS on this "not going to be very good" talk. Steve Lineweaver hasn't left town on the TRE so lets quiet the talk of their downfall.

5.Arlington Bowie - Very athletic, Kenny Perry has them boys playing some damn good ball in A town.

6. Hebron - They are the consummate "every year" team. As long as Brazil is there, they will be good every year.

7.Garland - As is the case almost every season, Garland will have plenty of talent on the field and Jordan is a damn good leader, one of the better ones in the Metromess.

8. Marcus - Erwin, Hopkins...Yea, Nuff said. They will be good.

9. Carroll - This will be a good year for the Dragons. Plenty of returning talent and a coach that will be chomping at the bit to prove he has what it takes to return the Green Machine to prominance.

10. Lake Highlands - Talent is an abundance in the part Dallas/part Richardson school and Scott Smith has been getting the Wildcats headed in the right direction and should continue it.


Carroll should not be in the top 10. We do not even know who our QB is going to be, our running back is too small and slow. Our WR's drop too many balls and our defense cannot tackle.
No one is expecting much from this years team.

[SWMHebron]

Carroll should not be in the top 10. We do not even know who our QB is going to be, our running back is too small and slow. Our WR's drop too many balls and our defense cannot tackle.
No one is expecting much from this years team.

Hey our RB last year could be timed with an hourglass and we got as far as you did.

[dragonpants]

I like the list but feel Desoto will be on it this year......true, they disappointed when counted on, but this team looks promising. Sleeper is Arlington...they have one of their best teams with lots of experience. We should do well since the QB (Davis) has plenty of real time experience, knows the system and the recieving crop may be the best ever at Bowie.

Arlington needs a coach. Scott Peach is not good, sorry be he is not.

[SLC]

Carroll should not be in the top 10. We do not even know who our QB is going to be, our running back is too small and slow. Our WR's drop too many balls and our defense cannot tackle.
No one is expecting much from this years team.


As bad as we will suck this coming season, I just couldn't find another team whos suck is less then our suck.:D

[slcdragonfan]

I have no faith in the current coaching staff in Southlake. Not trying to bait anyone. Since I am from up there, my kids started out there and they aren't on our schedule I hope they win it all. But my opinion is they won't with Hal at the helm.

You're not baiting, Flee is. To address the issue however, I do think that SLC should be in the top 10 in the DFW area. I think around mid-teens preseason for the state. These kids are hungry, and they have something to prove. And there is talent and experience on this team. We have been inundated with injuries the past two years, heck, some of the injuries are just now showing up (see my Zach Bellinger post!).

[Fleeman93]

What do you care, other than to try and bait an SLC fan?;)

...I'd like to purchase an argument....

Not baiting anyone. Is SLC a top 10 DeeFDuuub team or not and if so then are they at the top of the list? Who is wrong and who is right?

[Fleeman93]

I have no faith in the current coaching staff in Southlake. Not trying to bait anyone. Since I am from up there, my kids started out there and they aren't on our schedule I hope they win it all. But my opinion is they won't with Hal at the helm.

I tend to agree with you but either they are or are not a top 10 team.

[Fleeman93]

Carroll should not be in the top 10. We do not even know who our QB is going to be, our running back is too small and slow. Our WR's drop too many balls and our defense cannot tackle.
No one is expecting much from this years team.

Finally an honest assessment from a Carroll fan. Do you really think it will be that bad though?

[Fleeman93]

Hey our RB last year could be timed with an hourglass and we got as far as you did.

Uppercut!

[Fleeman93]

You're not baiting, Flee is. To address the issue however, I do think that SLC should be in the top 10 in the DFW area. I think around mid-teens preseason for the state. These kids are hungry, and they have something to prove. And there is talent and experience on this team. We have been inundated with injuries the past two years, heck, some of the injuries are just now showing up (see my Zach Bellinger post!).

I wasn't baiting anyone. I just thought it was interesting that one person's opinion had Carroll at #2 and one didn't even have them in the top 10. How is that baiting?

[SLC93]

D'ville - dark horse, just who I was thinking about as well;
Naaman - from the thread that was on here about the coach leaving and the kids quitting, no. They have the talent, but not the spirit, and a coaching change will be a problem there this year from following that thread. Sad...
Mesquite - don't know;
Skyline - yep, deserve some attention.

But for the most part I agree with SLC/SLC93, some mix thereof.

Agreed. Dville will merit some attention, for sure. Skyline is established and is DISD's crown jewel. Naaman's got too much going on heading into this year and Mesquite is just another solid team.

[SLC93]

I'm basing it on so much of the core group returning along with some of the guys I saw play in the sub-varsity units. This group will definitely be a much better performer......how far they go? I don't know, just taking notice of a sleeper.

As a sleeper, I can see them making some noise but I think it's going to take them several games to break in the new guys. Carroll will find out about them early.

[E-Vol-ution]

Come on man.....no SLC guy likes Peach. I understand he said some derogatory stuff.........and needs to keep his derriere off the field when protesting calls......and....
The guy does have a very decent offensive mind.Arlington needs a coach. Scott Peach is not good, sorry be he is not.

[E-Vol-ution]

That will be a heck of a benchmark for them.
As a sleeper, I can see them making some noise but I think it's going to take them several games to break in the new guys. Carroll will find out about them early.

[dragonpants]

As bad as we will suck this coming season, I just couldn't find another team whos suck is less then our suck.:D

It is a rebuilding year for sure. The only reason we are going to play is so that Jackson does not lose his scholarship by having to take a year off. He is going to play both ways. He will play TE on offense as we are going to the flexbone for next season. We do not have a QB that can pass and no receivers. OL is too small but has some speed so we are hoping that we can control the ball so our defense will not be on the field as much.

[SLC93]

1) Allen-Bringing back a lot from a great team.
2) Trinity-Always strong
3) Desoto-Loaded with talent - too high for an inconsistent team, let 'em earn it
4) Garland-QB back from a good team
5) Marcus-Erwin has some pieces coming back from a good team.
6) Cedar Hill-Athletes
7) Skyline-Lot back from good team
8) Arl. Bowie-Talent at key spots
9) Arlington-MVP QB and 2 good receivers back. - least likely of these ten to be included.
10)Hebron-Should be back to double digit wins after an off year compared to the last few.

Seriously, no Carroll? That will be a mistake, mark it down.

[SLC93]

Funny to me that an SLC fan had them at 2 on his list yet you don't mention them. One of you two have to be wrong.

Nah, I'm just a little more right.:D

[slcdragonfan]

I wasn't baiting anyone. I just thought it was interesting that one person's opinion had Carroll at #2 and one didn't even have them in the top 10. How is that baiting?

OK. I'll take a chance here. Carroll should be top 10 DFW area. Coaching may be an issue as it is unproven at the state championship level. But that doesn't mean that SLC is not a force to be reckoned with. The talent, program (Katy people know what I am talking about, they put this right back on me on a post I made and they were right), returning starters, depth, desire, put them there. I believe that the coaching is an open question, as it is balanced by the tremendous number of injuries we have had. We lost two games in the regular season, one in double-overtime, the other game was 30-28 (Hebron lead) in the 4th quarter. I would put us around 4-6 in the DFW area for now.

[15Adragon]

Come on man.....no SLC guy likes Peach. I understand he said some derogatory stuff.........and needs to keep his derriere off the field when protesting calls......and....
The guy does have a very decent offensive mind.

SLC coaches will have a hard time convincing the players that Arl is any good. They were a push over last year at SL. If the HC would have kept his foot on the gas that score could have gotten ugly.

[SLC93]

Carroll should not be in the top 10. We do not even know who our QB is going to be, our running back is too small and slow. Our WR's drop too many balls and our defense cannot tackle.
No one is expecting much from this years team.

-Both our qb's are highly capably, however, so the decision is not from a lack of talent.
- I've never heard anyone refer to Avers as too slow. He's a waterbug. He wasn't used enough last season, imo.
- WR's have alot to prove, true
- A defense that returns almost intact, dripping with talent and a new coach to help the dc. I'd take my chances on them.

[SLC93]

Arlington needs a coach. Scott Peach is not good, sorry be he is not.

Cold, hard fact.

[slcdragonfan]

SLC coaches will have a hard time convincing the players that Arl is any good. They were a push over last year at SL. If the HC would have kept his foot on the gas that score could have gotten ugly.

Their players also lost their cool. That is NOT cool ;) and leads to penalties, errors in judgment, etc. Of all the games we played last year, that one was the ugliest on the field.

[SLC93]

It is a rebuilding year for sure. The only reason we are going to play is so that Jackson does not lose his scholarship by having to take a year off. He is going to play both ways. He will play TE on offense as we are going to the flexbone for next season. We do not have a QB that can pass and no receivers. OL is too small but has some speed so we are hoping that we can control the ball so our defense will not be on the field as much.

:eek::D

[SLC93]

Finally an honest assessment from a Carroll fan. Do you really think it will be that bad though?


Down, Flee, down. That's a good Flee.:D

[Fleeman93]

OK. I'll take a chance here. Carroll should be top 10 DFW area. Coaching may be an issue as it is unproven at the state championship level. But that doesn't mean that SLC is not a force to be reckoned with. The talent, program (Katy people know what I am talking about, they put this right back on me on a post I made and they were right), returning starters, depth, desire, put them there. I believe that the coaching is an open question, as it is balanced by the tremendous number of injuries we have had. We lost two games in the regular season, one in double-overtime, the other game was 30-28 (Hebron lead) in the 4th quarter. I would put us around 4-6 in the DFW area for now.

Fair enough. Thank you.

[slcdragonfan]

-Both our qb's are highly capably, however, so the decision is not from a lack of talent.
- I've never heard anyone refer to Avers as too slow. He's a waterbug. He wasn't used enough last season, imo.
- WR's have alot to prove, true
- A defense that returns almost intact, dripping with talent and a new coach to help the dc. I'd take my chances on them.

Definitely not enough in the Hebron game...

[slcdragonfan]

It is a rebuilding year for sure. The only reason we are going to play is so that Jackson does not lose his scholarship by having to take a year off. He is going to play both ways. He will play TE on offense as we are going to the flexbone for next season. We do not have a QB that can pass and no receivers. OL is too small but has some speed so we are hoping that we can control the ball so our defense will not be on the field as much.

I've heard this phrase, 'Tight End', a few times. What is that? ;)

[E-Vol-ution]

That's what many women look for at football games. At least that's what I hear them really saying "wow" about.
Anyway....enough about my wife.......;)
I've heard this phrase, 'Tight End', a few times. What is that? ;)

[SLC93]

That's what many women look for at football games. At least that's what I hear them really saying "wow" about.
Anyway....enough about my wife.......;)

Who happens to have text book TE ........ :eek::D

[E-Vol-ution]

I like that Katy kid (the football description TE). He shows promise.
Who happens to have text book TE ........ :eek::D

[SLC93]

That's what many women look for at football games. At least that's what I hear them really saying "wow" about.
Anyway....enough about my wife.......;)

Who happens to have a text book TE .....:eek::D


forgot to bold previously.

[E-Vol-ution]

What? You've seen my wife? .........Yes she does, probably for the next five years or so.........
Who happens to have a text book TE .....:eek::D


forgot to bold previously.

[SLC]

Not baiting anyone. Is SLC a top 10 DeeFDuuub team or not and if so then are they at the top of the list? Who is wrong and who is right?


They are right about where I put them on my list....the rest is cream-puffing.


I certainly expect us be about the same ranking in state that I have us at in the DF DUB on my list by the end of the regular season.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

1. Allen; The Eagles have quite a bit returning from a state championship team, not to mention, 2 damn good QBs.

2. Skyline; Next year's Raiders will probably be the best team that Coach Reggie Samples has had since he's arrived in Pleasant Grove. The Raiders offense is going to be very scary in 2009.

3. Cedar Hill; Coach MaGuire (spelling) will have the 'Horns ready for a long run deep into the postseason. If I'm not mistaken, Ben Malena will be back as well. (Will someone correct me if I'm wrong?)

4. Euless Trinity; Tevin Williams, Damian Hart, and the re-loaded Trinity o-line will keep the train rolling. The "Trinity isn't going to be good crap" is getting old. Not falling for it!:D

5. Flower Mound Marcus; The Marauders are on their way back. With Coach Erwin, and Stephen Hopkins back at RB, they MIGHT be poised for a deep run thru the postseason.

6. Southlake Carroll; The past couple of years, the Dragons have lost their starting QB at a very crucial time. Not sure who the man will be this year but, you can never count the Dragons out.

7. Wylie; Jared Monk is gone, but Nick Knott isn't. The Pirates still have some depth, and they are a state finalist. They'll be making some noise!

8. Garland; The Owls are hungry after going 3 rounds deep last year in the postseason. With Jordan at the helm and a few returning, they're wanting more.

9. Hebron; Coach Brazil is still there, need I say more?

10a. Lake Highlands; The Wildcats are starting to become winners again and, they pulled off a huge victory against Skyline last year at Forester. We might wanna watch out for the Wildcats when the postseason rolls around.

10b. Arlington Bowie; The only question mark is, how long will it take Davis to get going at QB. He has some real game experience so, it may not be long. Not to mention, Kenny Perry is a helluva coach.

I'm ready for the season to start!:D

[powerofthehaka]

1. Allen; The Eagles have quite a bit returning from a state championship team, not to mention, 2 damn good QBs.

2. Skyline; Next year's Raiders will probably be the best team that Coach Reggie Samples has had since he's arrived in Pleasant Grove. The Raiders offense is going to be very scary in 2009.

3. Cedar Hill; Coach MaGuire (spelling) will have the 'Horns ready for a long run deep into the postseason. If I'm not mistaken, Ben Malena will be back as well. (Will someone correct me if I'm wrong?)

4. Euless Trinity; Tevin Williams, Damian Hart, and the re-loaded Trinity o-line will keep the train rolling. The "Trinity isn't going to be good crap" is getting old. Not falling for it!:D
5. Flower Mound Marcus; The Marauders are on their way back. With Coach Erwin, and Stephen Hopkins back at RB, they MIGHT be poised for a deep run thru the postseason.

6. Southlake Carroll; The past couple of years, the Dragons have lost their starting QB at a very crucial time. Not sure who the man will be this year but, you can never count the Dragons out.

7. Wylie; Jared Monk is gone, but Nick Knott isn't. The Pirates still have some depth, and they are a state finalist. They'll be making some noise!

8. Garland; The Owls are hungry after going 3 rounds deep last year in the postseason. With Jordan at the helm and a few returning, they're wanting more.

9. Hebron; Coach Brazil is still there, need I say more?

10a. Lake Highlands; The Wildcats are starting to become winners again and, they pulled off a huge victory against Skyline last year at Forester. We might wanna watch out for the Wildcats when the postseason rolls around.

10b. Arlington Bowie; The only question mark is, how long will it take Davis to get going at QB. He has some real game experience so, it may not be long. Not to mention, Kenny Perry is a helluva coach.

I'm ready for the season to start!:D

No QB, no Oline, No Dline, No Db's, No Lb's. No chance.

[trainin' the game]

1. Allen

2. Carroll

3. Trinity

4. Marcus

5. Cedar Hill

6. Hebron

7. Bowie

8. Desoto

9. Wylie

10. Duncanville

thoughts????

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

No QB, no Oline, No Dline, No Db's, No Lb's. No chance.

If you say so!;):rolleyes::D

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

1. Allen

2. Carroll

3. Trinity

4. Marcus

5. Cedar Hill

6. Hebron

7. Bowie

8. Desoto

9. Wylie

10. Duncanville

thoughts????

Duncanville AND DeSoto were very, VERY close to making my list. I have DeSoto at 11, and Duncanville at 12.

I also see that you don't have Skyline in your top 10. Now, of course, these polls are our opinions. Where do you think Skyline will be among the top teams in the D/FW?

[trainin' the game]

Duncanville AND DeSoto were very, VERY close to making my list. I have DeSoto at 11, and Duncanville at 12.

I also see that you don't have Skyline in your top 10. Now, of course, these polls are our opinions. Where do you think Skyline will be among the top teams in the D/FW?

you're right; might have to make some changes skyline should definitly be there.

[15Adragon]

1. Allen

2. Carroll

3. Trinity

4. Marcus

5. Cedar Hill

6. Hebron

7. Bowie

8. Desoto

9. Wylie

10. Duncanville

thoughts????

All smiles from here. :):D;)

[E-Vol-ution]

I really don't see Skyline as dangerous as last year. They had three burners and that cut down to one. Good; yes.........they pick and choose defense after offense takes the first two or three studs from their sub-varsity teams. Samples will always have hitters and athletes.
Duncanville AND DeSoto were very, VERY close to making my list. I have DeSoto at 11, and Duncanville at 12.

I also see that you don't have Skyline in your top 10. Now, of course, these polls are our opinions. Where do you think Skyline will be among the top teams in the D/FW?

[dragonpants]

Finally an honest assessment from a Carroll fan. Do you really think it will be that bad though?

It is going to be horrible, we will win a couple games in district and hopefully make the playoffs. There are only 6 teams in our district but we will lose in the first round if we even make it.

[dragonpants]

Come on man.....no SLC guy likes Peach. I understand he said some derogatory stuff.........and needs to keep his derriere off the field when protesting calls......and....
The guy does have a very decent offensive mind.

Let's talk about it when he wins something of some significance. He cannot even win his district.

[slcdragonfan]

1. Allen; The Eagles have quite a bit returning from a state championship team, not to mention, 2 damn good QBs.

2. Skyline; Next year's Raiders will probably be the best team that Coach Reggie Samples has had since he's arrived in Pleasant Grove. The Raiders offense is going to be very scary in 2009.

3. Cedar Hill; Coach MaGuire (spelling) will have the 'Horns ready for a long run deep into the postseason. If I'm not mistaken, Ben Malena will be back as well. (Will someone correct me if I'm wrong?)

4. Euless Trinity; Tevin Williams, Damian Hart, and the re-loaded Trinity o-line will keep the train rolling. The "Trinity isn't going to be good crap" is getting old. Not falling for it!:D

5. Flower Mound Marcus; The Marauders are on their way back. With Coach Erwin, and Stephen Hopkins back at RB, they MIGHT be poised for a deep run thru the postseason.

6. Southlake Carroll; The past couple of years, the Dragons have lost their starting QB at a very crucial time. Not sure who the man will be this year but, you can never count the Dragons out.

7. Wylie; Jared Monk is gone, but Nick Knott isn't. The Pirates still have some depth, and they are a state finalist. They'll be making some noise!

8. Garland; The Owls are hungry after going 3 rounds deep last year in the postseason. With Jordan at the helm and a few returning, they're wanting more.

9. Hebron; Coach Brazil is still there, need I say more?

10a. Lake Highlands; The Wildcats are starting to become winners again and, they pulled off a huge victory against Skyline last year at Forester. We might wanna watch out for the Wildcats when the postseason rolls around.

10b. Arlington Bowie; The only question mark is, how long will it take Davis to get going at QB. He has some real game experience so, it may not be long. Not to mention, Kenny Perry is a helluva coach.

I'm ready for the season to start!:D

I like this list, but might replace #10 with Duncanville as an outside shot. And Malena will be back.
***edit***
and I would probably push Skyline down some.:)

[E-Vol-ution]

Look how far the playoff teams in that district went last year.Let's talk about it when he wins something of some significance. He cannot even win his district.

[DrEdward]

Funny to me that an SLC fan had them at 2 on his list yet you don't mention them. One of you two have to be wrong.

Imagine. Pre-season top tens that don't match!! :rolleyes::eek:

[dragonpants]

I've heard this phrase, 'Tight End', a few times. What is that? ;)

is that what TE stands for?

[slcdragonfan]

is that what TE stands for?

I was thinking they might be one and the same cause they both start with the same letters....

[dragonpants]

Look how far the playoff teams in that district went last year.

What does that have to do with the coaching capabilities of Scott Peach?
He cannot coach against teams with better talent?
Many of those that post on here believe that high school football is predominately about coaching and that is why there are teams that are good year in and year out.
You are making my point for me.
Why does everyone think that Hebron is going to be good this year? Brian Brazile, Why is Marcus going to be good, Erwin and Hopkins but Erwin's name comes first, why is Katy good every year? Joseph.
Why does Arlington suck every year, Scott Peach, why does Arlington Lamar suck every year, Eddie Peach.

Why is Duncanville on the rise Dicus, was Cedar Hill ever mentioned before Joey Maguire came to town?
I can go on and on.

[trojanbacker]

Trinity might be in the DFW top 20, but not the top 10.

[farmerfan]

Trinity might be in the DFW top 20, but not the top 10.

By the time non-district is over they wont be ranked ;)

[SLC]

D'Ville and Desoto are top 15 teams in the DF DUB, but not quite top 10. Skyline wont be what they were last season, at least not early.

[E-Vol-ution]

The guy has no excuse this year. Arlington has a team with core veterans returning at key spots. I guess we'll see.
What does that have to do with the coaching capabilities of Scott Peach?
He cannot coach against teams with better talent?
Many of those that post on here believe that high school football is predominately about coaching and that is why there are teams that are good year in and year out.
You are making my point for me.
Why does everyone think that Hebron is going to be good this year? Brian Brazile, Why is Marcus going to be good, Erwin and Hopkins but Erwin's name comes first, why is Katy good every year? Joseph.
Why does Arlington suck every year, Scott Peach, why does Arlington Lamar suck every year, Eddie Peach.

Why is Duncanville on the rise Dicus, was Cedar Hill ever mentioned before Joey Maguire came to town?
I can go on and on.

[slcdragonfan]

D'Ville and Desoto are top 15 teams in the DF DUB, but not quite top 10. Skyline wont be what they were last season, at least not early.

on the face of it yes. But, I am placing a wild card bet on D'ville. Skyline?
ok.:notworthy

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

I really don't see Skyline as dangerous as last year. They had three burners and that cut down to one. Good; yes.........they pick and choose defense after offense takes the first two or three studs from their sub-varsity teams. Samples will always have hitters and athletes.

For some reason, I thought that Skyline had their 2 best recievers coming back, along with a QB who did well as a junior.

And, yes, I agree about the hitters and athletes that Samples will have. Not to mention, he's brung some stability to the Skyline program. Even though they haven't won titles at their current posts, Samples and Allen Wilson have both done great jobs at Skyline and Carter.

[Robber89]

I like the list but the order is probably off. Chill will be there but they lost a ton off of that oline. They'll needd most of the season to get that unit to gel. Also replacing the dcoordinator so a new voice is in their heads for the 3 straight season. Wylie lost the star qb and a portion of their line from their first deep run. To me, they're still in show me mode. I love Perry and Bowie but this is a big year for them. After two outstanding runs, most of the talent that drove them is gone, most notably Christian Matthews. Now that they've established a winner they'll have to show they can replace the best qb in their schools history and move forward.(Spare me the Sherrod Harris crap. Matthews has serious potential). So, I'd prolly go.

1) Allen
2) Carroll - no homerism, we're bouncing big this season
3) Trinity
4) Garland
5) Cedar Hill
6) Hebron
7) Wylie
8) Bowie
9) Marcus
10) Lake Highlands

Cedar Hill returns 3 of their 5 offensive lineman. They have one of the best offensive line coaches in the state. They are going to have a hard time replacing Thomas Ashcraft, but I would say 3 out of the 5 starters is a good group to return. 2 of the 3 returns already have offers. The o-line will be fine. They have to find corners. They lost all three that played a lot last year.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

I like this list, but might replace #10 with Duncanville as an outside shot. And Malena will be back.
***edit***
and I would probably push Skyline down some.:)

Thanks! I thought about Duncanville at the #10 spot, right along with DeSoto, Bowie and Lake Highlands. I actually have DeSoto and Duncanville at #11 and #12 but, it was just a top 10 list. LOL!

As for Skyline, my picks for #2-#6 were difficult for me to determine. I almost put Cedar Hill at 2, and I thought about Trinity, Carroll, and Marcus as well. To me, these 5 teams could flip flop each other.

I'll tell you what, I've gotta feeling that the 2009 season will be one of the best that we've ever witnessed. I can't wait!

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

you're right; might have to make some changes skyline should definitly be there.

Well, as I said, these are our individual opinions on where these teams will be ranked.

DeSoto and Duncanville will both be tough teams and, before the season is over, could, COULD, both end the season in the top 10 (possibly 5).

[Robber89]

Skyline has a ton of talent coming back.

Desoto is loaded again. Can Coach Mathis get them over the hump. They suit out better than any team in the state. Well them and Lufkin.

[33Blood]

For some reason, I thought that Skyline had their 2 best recievers coming back, along with a QB who did well as a junior.

And, yes, I agree about the hitters and athletes that Samples will have. Not to mention, he's brung some stability to the Skyline program. Even though they haven't won titles at their current posts, Samples and Allen Wilson have both done great jobs at Skyline and Carter.

Skyline has 2 of the top 10 LB's in the state coming back. Hall the QB is back. 3 WR's back. And I am sure they will find some guys to run it. So they are pretty loaded I think.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Skyline has a ton of talent coming back.

Desoto is loaded again. Can Coach Mathis get them over the hump. They suit out better than any team in the state. Well them and Lufkin.

DeSoto has always had the guns to fire but, they haven't always had the shooter. Maybe Coach Mathis could be the shooter that they've lacked. They've gone 3 rounds deep a couple of times this decade, and they've also gone 4 rounds deep a couple of times this decade, with one of those years losing to a great Trinity team in 2001, and the other in 2006, where they lost to Will Cole and Company.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Skyline has 2 of the top 10 LB's in the state coming back. Hall the QB is back. 3 WR's back. And I am sure they will find some guys to run it. So they are pretty loaded I think.

See, that's what I thought! If I'm not mistaken, those 3 recievers are D1 prospects that Javia Hall will be throwing to. And, one of those linebackers blocked about, 8 punts and kicks last year. YIKES!

[33Blood]

DeSoto has always had the guns to fire but, they haven't always had the shooter. Maybe Coach Mathis could be the shooter that they've lacked. They've gone 3 rounds deep a couple of times this decade, and they've also gone 4 rounds deep a couple of times this decade, with one of those years losing to a great Trinity team in 2001, and the other in 2006, where they lost to Will Cole and Company.

Desoto had a good coach in Dave Meadows but he had to spend more time fighting parents and the school board than coaching. But he did take them on some deep playoff runs. I also get the feeling that many there support the basketball team more than the football team.

[GoOwls]

1. Allen

2. Carroll

3. Trinity

4. Marcus

5. Cedar Hill

6. Hebron

7. Bowie

8. Desoto

9. Wylie

10. Duncanville

thoughts????

I think you left off Garland....

I think you left off a team that went three rounds last year WITHOUT their starting QB.....he will be back and the guy who played QB can go back to catching passes and running the ball....;)

[su4c]

Desoto had a good coach in Dave Meadows but he had to spend more time fighting parents and the school board than coaching. But he did take them on some deep playoff runs. I also get the feeling that many there support the basketball team more than the football team.

It's actually closer than you think, I'd give the edge to football. But you can't blame the fans really, 2 state basketball titles this decade is a little easier to get behind than the football team. We just can't seem to get over that hump. Mathis has only been here 1 year, so maybe we'll see some real progress this season.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Desoto had a good coach in Dave Meadows but he had to spend more time fighting parents and the school board than coaching. But he did take them on some deep playoff runs. I also get the feeling that many there support the basketball team more than the football team.

I didn't think Meadows was a bad coach either but, I'm just an outsider too. Those deep runs that they went on were ended by some GREAT teams as well. Trinity's 2001 team was one of the best teams that I've ever seen but, they ran into a guy named Reggie McNeal. Of course, we all know about Will Cole and that Cedar Hill bunch also. Not to mention, DeSoto has been playing in a tough region as well. But, I've got a feeling that it won't be long before the Eagles get over the hump. Not sure when but, they're close.

[E-Vol-ution]

They'll be good......but White, Williams and Frazier were heart attacks. Davis is the remaining beast. Skyline will always have a monster of a defense with big hitters. I wish we still had our series going on. Skyline has 2 of the top 10 LB's in the state coming back. Hall the QB is back. 3 WR's back. And I am sure they will find some guys to run it. So they are pretty loaded I think.

[ALLENFANDINGO5]

I think you left off Garland....

I think you left off a team that went three rounds last year WITHOUT their starting QB.....he will be back and the guy who played QB can go back to catching passes and running the ball....;)
If you replace Bowie with Garland you would have my list and order.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Plano will surprise and amaze everyone on this board by the end of the year. The program is bigger than any one player. Of course we do have more wins than any team all time in DFW & more playoff wins.;) That count's for something.

Got State?

[SMELL-IT!]

My top 10.:notworthy
1. Allen (defending state champs! Respect fellas Respect)
2. Wylie (Div II runners up, Once again Respect)
3. Trinity (Whooomp, here comes the freight train)
4. Hebron (Shay T. Nanny is all that needs to be said)
5. Cedar Hill 6. Bowie
7. Marcus (these guys go as far as Hopkins can take them)
8. Duncanville
9. Carroll
10. Garland (thats for you Owl)

Now, it is WAY, WAY ,WAY ,too early to really be predicting top tens. However, in good fun this is the way I see it. :cool:

[SLC93]

Plano will surprise and amaze everyone on this board by the end of the year. The program is bigger than any one player. Of course we do have more wins than any team all time in DFW & more playoff wins.;) That count's for something.

Got State?

No offense but you're replacing the Holy Trinity of Meager/Lott/Burkhead. That's your #1's for the last 2+ years at the skills positions. Maybe by the end of the year but I think they'll be some turbulence early.

[SLC]

They'll be good......but White, Williams and Frazier were heart attacks. Davis is the remaining beast. Skyline will always have a monster of a defense with big hitters. I wish we still had our series going on.


Yep...Skyline has talent every season...more than alot of teams every season and yet it usually doesn't mean much in the overall results.

[trainin' the game]

My top 10.:notworthy
1. Allen (defending state champs! Respect fellas Respect)
2. Wylie (Div II runners up, Once again Respect)3. Trinity (Whooomp, here comes the freight train)
4. Hebron (Shay T. Nanny is all that needs to be said)
5. Cedar Hill 6. Bowie
7. Marcus (these guys go as far as Hopkins can take them)
8. Duncanville
9. Carroll
10. Garland (thats for you Owl)

Now, it is WAY, WAY ,WAY ,too early to really be predicting top tens. However, in good fun this is the way I see it. :cool:

it's your opinion but you know if the season started today their is no way you would pick trinity or carroll to lose to wylie. congratulate them on last year but respectfully put them where they belong somewhere between 8-10.

"AHMO" say they gotta prove they have turned the corner and weren't a one hit wonder:)

[E-Vol-ution]

Only two teams can stick their chests out...........
There's only one true overall result.
Yep...Skyline has talent every season...more than alot of teams every season and yet it usually doesn't mean much in the overall results.

[ALLENFANDINGO5]

Plano will surprise and amaze everyone on this board by the end of the year. The program is bigger than any one player. Of course we do have more wins than any team all time in DFW & more playoff wins.;) That count's for something.

Got State?
How does that count for next year? Im sure you guys will be good but are you in the DFW top ten? IMO not really. You all need to tighten up on defense because I think your offense will be fine. Too many good athletes there for that not to be true. But it takes more than athletesism to play defense. When Allen finally bought into that it made a difference. I hope you guys are better than I think you will be.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

How does that count for next year? Im sure you guys will be good but are you in the DFW top ten? IMO not really. You all need to tighten up on defense because I think your offense will be fine. Too many good athletes there for that not to be true. But it takes more than athletesism to play defense. When Allen finally bought into that it made a difference. I hope you guys are better than I think you will be.


Plano's defense was the exception last year. Plano has always played very sound, technique defense for 40 years. We had 4 soph & 3 Jr starters last year so I see nothing but big improvement on that side of the ball. Just like your porous defense made huge strides year over year due to your players growing up.

Mark my word's final top 10 DFW rankings Plano will be their and Will make a deep run in the playoffs. When you least expect it expect it.

[farmerfan]

1 Allen - thye are keeping my income strong
2 Plano West - the people on the West side by Willow Bend are nice people
3 Plano - they move up to 1 once they can fill my pocket book
4 Plano East - The east siders of Plano have now rubbed me wrong twice. They deserve to be ranked last in everything they do from now on

The rest don't matter

[farmerfan]

Plano's defense was the exception last year. Plano has always played very sound, technique defense for 40 years. We had 4 soph & 3 Jr starters last year so I see nothing but big improvement on that side of the ball. Just like your porous defense made huge strides year over year due to your players growing up.

Mark my word's final top 10 DFW rankings Plano will be their and Will make a deep run in the playoffs. When you least expect it expect it.

That even includes 0-10 right? ;):D

[SLC93]

Yep...Skyline has talent every season...more than alot of teams every season and yet it usually doesn't mean much in the overall results.

Though they have come miles in recent years, you must admit.

[drgnbkr]

1 Allen - thye are keeping my income strong
2 Plano West - the people on the West side by Willow Bend are nice people
3 Plano - they move up to 1 once they can fill my pocket book
4 Plano East - The east siders of Plano have now rubbed me wrong twice. They deserve to be ranked last in everything they do from now on

The rest don't matter

I think you've nailed it!:notworthy

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Though they have come miles in recent years, you must admit.

Yep. They finally got the right man at head coach! The only question is, how long before someone else offers him another job and he leaves?

[E-Vol-ution]

Samples did well at Lincoln...but was low on funds there, he's at Skyline......where the funds are ok and the talent pool is rich. He wouldn't feel his mission is accomplished until he wins a title. That's when the attention and offers get crazy.........Yep. They finally got the right man at head coach! The only question is, how long before someone else offers him another job and he leaves?

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Samples did well at Lincoln...but was low on funds there, he's at Skyline......where the funds are ok and the talent pool is rich. He wouldn't feel his mission is accomplished until he wins a title. That's when the attention and offers get crazy.........

What you said about the funds are very true. For what he, and his players had to work with at Lincoln, he did VERY well. With the exception of 1, or 2 years, he took Lincoln atleast 3-4 rounds deep every year. Of course, his best season is when they lost the heartbreaker in the championship against a GREAT Kilgore team in overtime.

I'm not sure when, but it won't be long before Skyline gets over the 4th round hump and gets to the big one.

[svhorns]

1. Katy
2. SV
3. North Shore
4. SA Madison
5. The Woodlands
6. EP Franklin
7. Abilene
8. Los Fresnos
9. San Benito
10. Cinco Ranch

[WylieCowboy]

a top ten DFW list with no DFW teams? Hmmmmm:D

[slcdragonfan]

1. Katy
2. SV
3. North Shore
4. SA Madison
5. The Woodlands
6. EP Franklin
7. Abilene
8. Los Fresnos
9. San Benito
10. Cinco Ranch

...somebody been at the fishing hole a little TOO long....

[svhorns]

...somebody been at the fishing hole a little TOO long....

I'm still there!

[GoOwls]

Plano will surprise and amaze everyone on this board by the end of the year. The program is bigger than any one player. Of course we do have more wins than any team all time in DFW & more playoff wins.;) That count's for something.
Got State?

Sure it does....ancient history.

Got state.....two teams will, but you won't.

In your district, depending if you're playing a decent pre-district or if you're playing the weak sisters of 5A, 5-5 to 7-3 will be a good season for you this year.

And yes....one player can be bigger than the program...ask Midland Lee.

[GoOwls]

My top 10.:notworthy
1. Allen (defending state champs! Respect fellas Respect)
2. Wylie (Div II runners up, Once again Respect)
3. Trinity (Whooomp, here comes the freight train)
4. Hebron (Shay T. Nanny is all that needs to be said)
5. Cedar Hill 6. Bowie
7. Marcus (these guys go as far as Hopkins can take them)
8. Duncanville
9. Carroll
10. Garland (thats for you Owl)

Now, it is WAY, WAY ,WAY ,too early to really be predicting top tens. However, in good fun this is the way I see it. :cool:

Thanks, but no need to throw me a bone...I was just making a point.

[GoOwls]

Plano's defense was the exception last year. Plano has always played very sound, technique defense for 40 years. We had 4 soph & 3 Jr starters last year so I see nothing but big improvement on that side of the ball. Just like your porous defense made huge strides year over year due to your players growing up.

Mark my word's final top 10 DFW rankings Plano will be their and Will make a deep run in the playoffs. When you least expect it expect it.

Maybe you're right then, because we least expect it...;)

[grayowl60]

Sure it does....ancient history.

Got state.....two teams will, but you won't.

In your district, depending if you're playing a decent pre-district or if you're playing the weak sisters of 5A, 5-5 to 7-3 will be a good season for you this year.

And yes....one player can be bigger than the program...ask Midland Lee.
Uh oh... now you've done it. Woke up the snake.....predictable:rolleyes:

[scottie2]

Uh oh... now you've done it. Woke up the snake.....predictable:rolleyes:



Here is THE list


1. Allen

2. Carroll

3. Trinity

4. Marcus

5. Cedar Hill

6. Plano

7. Highland Park

8. Desoto

9.Hebron

10. Duncanville

[scottie2]

Thanks, but no need to throw me a bone...I was just making a point.

refresh my memory is it time for Garland to go 3 and 7 this year? Is it every 2 or 3 years?

[Fleeman93]

Here is THE list


1. Allen

2. Carroll

3. Trinity

4. Marcus

5. Cedar Hill

6. Plano

7. Highland Park

8. Desoto

9.Hebron

10. Duncanville


When Highland Park stops doctoring their numbers and steps up to 5A (this is a 5A board) then you can include them in a top list.

[GoOwls]

Uh oh... now you've done it. Woke up the snake.....predictable:rolleyes:

PWF......Python Without Fangs

[scottie2]

PWF......Python Without Fangs


Wow that is funny. Does anyone really think that garland could beat Desoto next year?
They won't beat LH or Duncanville either

[scottie2]

When Highland Park stops doctoring their numbers and steps up to 5A (this is a 5A board) then you can include them in a top list.

we are moving to 3A if we don't win state this year. Then will be number 5 on the 5A poll as a 3A team

[SLC]

Though they have come miles in recent years, you must admit.



In the past 2?....Um ok I'll give you 2 consecutive 12-2 seasons though in both seasons they lost to the 2 really good teams they played....So 4 losses vs good teams and 24 wins vs average teams. The 2 seasons prior to that were sub par for the talent they have.



I will say however, that Samples is a damn good coach and has them playing better for the talent that school has.

[backonthegrind]

[QUOTE=Matthew 2000 Eagle;1149475]Duncanville AND DeSoto were very, VERY close to making my list. I have DeSoto at 11, and Duncanville at 12.

Desoto and Duncanville are loaded with talent! They both are coming off of good years, while that year being their HC's first year leading them. They both also started sophmores at the QB position last year and still had success!

[grayowl60]

Wow that is funny. Does anyone really think that garland could beat Desoto next year?
They won't beat LH or Duncanville either
Garlamd is 5-5 vs Desoto the last ten games played, And 1-1 the last two. Garland beat both Duncanville and Lake Highlands in 08. Next?

[slcdragonfan]

Here is THE list


1. Allen

2. Carroll

3. Trinity

4. Marcus

5. Cedar Hill

6. Plano

7. Highland Park

8. Desoto

9.Hebron

10. Duncanville

That's not bad either. I might move Hebron up and Marcus down; I think Hebron for now rates above Marcus. Still like D'ville in there.;)

[grayowl60]

When Highland Park stops doctoring their numbers and steps up to 5A (this is a 5A board) then you can include them in a top list.
Its amazing but usually only need a few to stay under the 4A max. Those are the times when there are field trips, and the flu bug hits. But my Gaad if they went to 5A they would be playing the likes of Irving Macarther and McKinney Boyd instead of Bishop Lynch and Greenville

[LH fan]

My boys at Lake Highlands have a lot of talent coming back next year and better coaching than Skyline. Skyline's got to prove that they can beat us, which they haven't done yet in any sport since we were put in the same district. Plus we get them at the Boneyard...

LH - '08 district champs in football and basketball with 2000+ less students. I predict the same in '09.

[E-Vol-ution]

So then; you plan on winning district this year...............Here is THE list


1. Allen

2. Carroll

3. Trinity

4. Marcus

5. Cedar Hill

6. Plano

7. Highland Park

8. Desoto

9.Hebron

10. Duncanville

[SLC]

My boys at Lake Highlands have a lot of talent coming back next year and better coaching than Skyline. Skyline's got to prove that they can beat us, which they haven't done yet in any sport since we were put in the same district. Plus we get them at the Boneyard...

LH - '08 district champs in football and basketball with 2000+ less students. I predict the same in '09.


I agree 100%.

[LET IT FLY]

My boys at Lake Highlands have a lot of talent coming back next year and better coaching than Skyline. Skyline's got to prove that they can beat us, which they haven't done yet in any sport since we were put in the same district. Plus we get them at the Boneyard...

LH - '08 district champs in football and basketball with 2000+ less students. I predict the same in '09.

Believe you me the date is HIGHLIGHTED on there schedules at THE BONE YARD...:ninja:

[scottie2]

Its amazing but usually only need a few to stay under the 4A max. Those are the times when there are field trips, and the flu bug hits. But my Gaad if they went to 5A they would be playing the likes of Irving Macarther and McKinney Boyd instead of Bishop Lynch and Greenville

Rumor has it we are going to petetion to play 5A next year so we can play in the Garland district. that way we would be guaranteed a district championship every year

[scottie2]

So then; you plan on winning district this year...............

district of course, we have only lost it once in 10 years

[LET IT FLY]

I am glad Football Fans are back live an in color but, Help me out for a minute SKYLINE not in the top TEN, Desoto is :Censor: They put 50 on them with the same kids coming back. OU,LSU,MICHGAN, COMMITS.And Desoto is in the top ten,WOW...? will DESOTO win both game in TYLER this year,no one has done that in a single season..

[E-Vol-ution]

There wasn't a Rockwall Heath during that run.........district of course, we have only lost it once in 10 years

[grayowl60]

Rumor has it we are going to petetion to play 5A next year so we can play in the Garland district. that way we would be guaranteed a district championship every year
Thats right, the record shows that no Garland team ever wins a game, they are always 0-10
You need to be thinking about Heath, Royce City, Greenville and of course... Jesuit:D
How will Hp do this year vs Newman Smith and Frisco Liberty?

[GoOwls]

Rumor has it we are going to petetion to play 5A next year so we can play in the Garland district. that way we would be guaranteed a district championship every year

Fantastic....we won't have to drive to HP to let the poor, sensually deprived HP women know what they are missing....you'll be bringing the hen house to the wolf pack.....DINNER, BOYS!!!!

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

[QUOTE=Matthew 2000 Eagle;1149475]Duncanville AND DeSoto were very, VERY close to making my list. I have DeSoto at 11, and Duncanville at 12.

Desoto and Duncanville are loaded with talent! They both are coming off of good years, while that year being their HC's first year leading them. They both also started sophmores at the QB position last year and still had success!

Oh, trust me! I know that both DeSoto, and Duncanville will be loaded the next couple of seasons. But, the thread said, "Top ten from D/FW", not top 12.;) That's where I have the Eagles and Panthers ranked as of right now.

But, I will say, that there's a good chance that both COULD very well be in the top 5 before season's end. KEYWORD: COULD! Wait a minute, I already said this in another post earlier in this thread.:D

[stinger]

[QUOTE=backonthegrind;1151424]

Oh, trust me! I know that both DeSoto, and Duncanville will be loaded the next couple of seasons. But, the thread said, "Top ten from D/FW", not top 12.;) That's where I have the Eagles and Panthers ranked as of right now.

But, I will say, that there's a good chance that both COULD very well be in the top 5 before season's end. KEYWORD: COULD! Wait a minute, I already said this in another post earlier in this thread.:D

Another factor is that Duncanville will be starting with virtually another new coaching staff. I believe at least six or more of the staff are leaving for other schools. Who knows what Dicus will be able to find, and convince, to come to his program. He isn't the easiest man to work for. Yeah, yeaah, he has been successful. However, there is a story.;)

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

[QUOTE=Matthew 2000 Eagle;1152178]

Another factor is that Duncanville will be starting with virtually another new coaching staff. I believe at least six or more of the staff are leaving for other schools. Who knows what Dicus will be able to find, and convince, to come to his program. He isn't the easiest man to work for. Yeah, yeaah, he has been successful. However, there is a story.;)

Wow! Now, I had no idea that Duncanville was losing that many assistants. Has Steve Freeman been hired as Permian's offensive coordinator yet? If not, then why not go get him? What's Mickey Finley up to these days? LOL!