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I installed it earlier. MMS still isn't working because apparently AT&T hasn't changed message restrictions on any iPhone accounts and most likely won't until the official 3.0 is released. One of my friends works at AT&T and he is going to try next week to figure it out for my account. It is really annoying because the camera icon is there, you can attach a picture, send it, and then it just stops sending right before it finishes and times out.
Copy and paste is the best thing so far. Copy an entire text message, just some random text, or an entire email. It is great to annoy someone with a massive text message. Double tape a message to copy it, double tap to paste, hold finger down in email to open the copy/paste screen, etc.
Landscape keyboard in almost everything but it is a tad buggy in email and text messaging. Sometimes it won't orient itself right and you will have to switch back and forth until it figures it out. It is worth it though because I can crank out text messages much quicker in landscape than I ever could in portrait.
Stereo bluetooth support FINALLY. If anyone has a bluetooth headset capable of streaming audio the OS supposedly has the ability to do so.
That is pretty much all I can think of. The beta is a little buggy and requires a lot more restarts than 2.2.1 did but it is fun to use. I can't wait for the final release.
Anyone else using it? If you found an MMS fix let me know.
RedRage00
03-21-2009, 10:27 AM
I can't wait for this release! I am counting down the days!
I don't have the beta but thanks for letting us in on it :D
I can't wait for this release! I am counting down the days!
I don't have the beta but thanks for letting us in on it :D
Want it? I have a certain number of devices I can add if anyone here wants to give it a try.
Just a warning though. IT IS BUGGY AND YOU CANNOT GO BACK (at least not easily).
rwilleby
03-21-2009, 10:30 AM
I probably won't do 3.0 until it comes out... Some of the features sound nice, many I probably won't use... But then again, you never know...
I think I'll go get a new phone and give mine to one of the kids when 3.0 ships...
Saw AT&T is going to sell the phones w/out a contract at a very hefty price. Up to $699 I think. Imagine the price will come down somewhat later in the year.
rwilleby
03-21-2009, 10:44 AM
Saw AT&T is going to sell the phones w/out a contract at a very hefty price. Up to $699 I think. Imagine the price will come down somewhat later in the year.
That's without a contract renewal... Apple doesn't like to discount their product very much... Even the big boxes have a very tight margin... So you can bet Cupertino will still get their cash no matter how AT&T spins the sale... :)
Saw AT&T is going to sell the phones w/out a contract at a very hefty price. Up to $699 I think. Imagine the price will come down somewhat later in the year.
Yeah. It is without a contract but still locked to AT&T and I'm pretty sure you can't activate it without the $30 a month data plan.
Some have been speculating that this is a move to clear stock for a possible update to the current iPhone.
I absolutely misunderstood that. I am locked into TMobile and my G1. oh well.
The G1 is a sweet phone though. Could be worse.
Not only is it locked into AT&T the offer is only available to existing AT&T customers. They really locked it in.
stevefoxsc
03-21-2009, 11:52 AM
you're telling the pos company phone still hasn't put mms in... Wow.... something so basic that my old sony ericson from 2002 could do that...
you're telling the pos company phone still hasn't put mms in... Wow.... something so basic that my old sony ericson from 2002 could do that...
and thought that berry would be better than the iphone....
your right you can't compare a iphone to the BB. not even fair the BB is way better.:p
stevefoxsc
03-21-2009, 12:31 PM
and thought that berry would be better than the iphone....
Black berry storm vs i-phone is like watching a blind midget with no hands fight Muhammad Ali, And the i-phone being the midget. And if you're assuming i still have that Sony pops, you're sadly mistaken.
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/f/f7/Iphone_vs_stone.jpg
Black berry storm vs i-phone is like watching a blind midget with no hands fight Muhammad Ali, And the i-phone being the midget. And if you're assuming i still have that Sony pops, you're sadly mistaken.
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/f/f7/Iphone_vs_stone.jpg
That is a really funny picture.
the_phoenix612
03-21-2009, 04:32 PM
Want it? I have a certain number of devices I can add if anyone here wants to give it a try.
Just a warning though. IT IS BUGGY AND YOU CANNOT GO BACK (at least not easily).
hook me up.
rwilleby
03-21-2009, 04:59 PM
Hater. :)
mad_fan
03-21-2009, 05:49 PM
Hater. :)
Nope...
Just waiting on iPhone Vista...:)
rwilleby
03-21-2009, 06:21 PM
Nope...
Just waiting on iPhone Vista...:)
:eek:
Slim-Rob
03-21-2009, 10:03 PM
I installed it earlier. MMS still isn't working because apparently AT&T hasn't changed message restrictions on any iPhone accounts and most likely won't until the official 3.0 is released. One of my friends works at AT&T and he is going to try next week to figure it out for my account. It is really annoying because the camera icon is there, you can attach a picture, send it, and then it just stops sending right before it finishes and times out. (Finally they do MMS. Like has been said, MMS has been around for years and years on most phones)
Copy and paste is the best thing so far. Copy an entire text message, just some random text, or an entire email. It is great to annoy someone with a massive text message. Double tape a message to copy it, double tap to paste, hold finger down in email to open the copy/paste screen, etc. (Windows mobile has had copy/paste for years as well)
Landscape keyboard in almost everything but it is a tad buggy in email and text messaging. Sometimes it won't orient itself right and you will have to switch back and forth until it figures it out. It is worth it though because I can crank out text messages much quicker in landscape than I ever could in portrait. (my dare has landscape keyboard. So does the Storm.)
Stereo bluetooth support FINALLY. If anyone has a bluetooth headset capable of streaming audio the OS supposedly has the ability to do so. (My last 2 phones have been stereo bluetooth capable, the Dare is, the Storm is, the Voyager is, The Versa is, The Glyde is, do I need to keep going?)
That is pretty much all I can think of. The beta is a little buggy and requires a lot more restarts than 2.2.1 did but it is fun to use. I can't wait for the final release.
Anyone else using it? If you found an MMS fix let me know.
Comments in Bold. So besides it being Apple and having a lot of apps for it, the iPhone is actually starting to be almost on par with real data devices? Cool.
Not saying the iPhone is crap, its a great device but Apple really should have put all these capabilities in it to begin with.
AND maybe it would be even better if it wasn't held back by AT&Ts network...
stevefoxsc
03-22-2009, 12:04 AM
Comments in Bold. So besides it being Apple and having a lot of apps for it, the iPhone is actually starting to be almost on par with real data devices? Cool.
Not saying the iPhone is crap, its a great device but Apple really should have put all these capabilities in it to begin with.
AND maybe it would be even better if it wasn't held back by AT&Ts network...
:notworthy
Slim-Rob
03-22-2009, 12:30 AM
:notworthy
right back at you for your avatar :notworthy
Comments in Bold. So besides it being Apple and having a lot of apps for it, the iPhone is actually starting to be almost on par with real data devices? Cool.
Not saying the iPhone is crap, its a great device but Apple really should have put all these capabilities in it to begin with.
AND maybe it would be even better if it wasn't held back by AT&Ts network...
Yeah. The features were long overdue. It was a travesty that such an advanced phone didn't ship with these features but downright laughable that it took them to the third edition of the OS to figure it out.
The iPhone is "catching up" to the competitors with the features but when these features launch (sometime in June hopefully) the competitors won't have anything to toot their horn about. Without the features it is still a better phone than everything you listed but with them it is a landslide.
Slim-Rob
03-22-2009, 07:18 PM
Yeah. The features were long overdue. It was a travesty that such an advanced phone didn't ship with these features but downright laughable that it took them to the third edition of the OS to figure it out.
The iPhone is "catching up" to the competitors with the features but when these features launch (sometime in June hopefully) the competitors won't have anything to toot their horn about. Without the features it is still a better phone than everything you listed but with them it is a landslide.
In your opinion maybe. My dare's internet is faster and with Verizon I have that speed pretty much everywhere I go, unlike the iPhone and AT&T.
If the iPhone was not made by Apple it would be just another phone, even if it was the EXACT same thing it is now. If HTC made it, it wouldn't sell.
In your opinion maybe. My dare's internet is faster and with Verizon I have that speed pretty much everywhere I go, unlike the iPhone and AT&T.
If the iPhone was not made by Apple it would be just another phone, even if it was the EXACT same thing it is now. If HTC made it, it wouldn't sell.
Why do you think that is the case? Why so many sales for the iphone because it's made by Apple, but not so much the personal computers?
Slim-Rob
03-22-2009, 09:56 PM
Why do you think that is the case? Why so many sales for the iphone because it's made by Apple, but not so much the personal computers?
Why do I think what is the case?
I guess I shouldn't bother arguing with Apple Fanboys. Like I said its a great device, but why has it been this long with this many sales and complaints, yet they are just barely fixing a couple of the issues.
RedRage00
03-22-2009, 09:56 PM
yeah. The features were long overdue. It was a travesty that such an advanced phone didn't ship with these features but downright laughable that it took them to the third edition of the os to figure it out.
The iphone is "catching up" to the competitors with the features but when these features launch (sometime in june hopefully) the competitors won't have anything to toot their horn about. without the features it is still a better phone than everything you listed but with them it is a landslide.
this!
In your opinion maybe. My dare's internet is faster and with Verizon I have that speed pretty much everywhere I go, unlike the iPhone and AT&T.
If the iPhone was not made by Apple it would be just another phone, even if it was the EXACT same thing it is now. If HTC made it, it wouldn't sell.
Your dare may be hooked up with a better provider that can give it faster internet but that internet is dumbed down and clumsy to use compared to the iPhone. I could sit here and list the ways the iPhone is better outside of browser speeds but it would take several pages. If you think the dare is a better phone than the iPhone you are just about the only person that thinks that.
The logo has nothing to do with it. I don't even like Apple computers. I use a mac mini to write iPhone and iPod Touch software but I'm on a thinkpad T61 right now running the Windows 7 beta. The iPhone has sold some 16 million units which is substantially more than the number of computers they have shipped. Obviously non-Apple customers are buying the iPhone. Wonder why?
If HTC made the phone it wouldn't sell but that would be because HTC sucks at making phones and would have screwed it up.
Slim-Rob
03-22-2009, 11:02 PM
Your dare may be hooked up with a better provider that can give it faster internet but that internet is dumbed down and clumsy to use compared to the iPhone. I could sit here and list the ways the iPhone is better outside of browser speeds but it would take several pages. If you think the dare is a better phone than the iPhone you are just about the only person that thinks that.
The logo has nothing to do with it. I don't even like Apple computers. I use a mac mini to write iPhone and iPod Touch software but I'm on a thinkpad T61 right now running the Windows 7 beta. The iPhone has sold some 16 million units which is substantially more than the number of computers they have shipped. Obviously non-Apple customers are buying the iPhone. Wonder why?
If HTC made the phone it wouldn't sell but that would be because HTC sucks at making phones and would have screwed it up.
The dare has a full HTML browser and is capable of most internet usage as the iPhone is...
As a PHONE, i've never dropped a call with my dare. So as a PHONE, no the iPhone is NOT better. If anything its even.
As a gadget, the dare does everything I need it to. I know it doesn't do as much as the iPhone, but I don't need it to.
HTC makes devices, i'm not sure what you're talking about by stating the suck at making phones...
the_phoenix612
03-22-2009, 11:08 PM
The dare has a full HTML browser and is capable of most internet usage as the iPhone is...
As a PHONE, i've never dropped a call with my dare. So as a PHONE, no the iPhone is NOT better. If anything its even.
As a gadget, the dare does everything I need it to. I know it doesn't do as much as the iPhone, but I don't need it to.
HTC makes devices, i'm not sure what you're talking about by stating the suck at making phones...
with a sh*tty interface that makes you want to gouge your eyes out then cut off your fingers and shove them up your *ss after using it...
other than that, yeah, its a great browser....:cool:
The dare has a full HTML browser and is capable of most internet usage as the iPhone is...
As a PHONE, i've never dropped a call with my dare. So as a PHONE, no the iPhone is NOT better. If anything its even.
As a gadget, the dare does everything I need it to. I know it doesn't do as much as the iPhone, but I don't need it to.
HTC makes devices, i'm not sure what you're talking about by stating the suck at making phones...
I would rather make a homemade pizza than spend 15 minutes trying to browse the web on the dare.
Slim-Rob
03-23-2009, 12:21 AM
You guys can say what you want about the dare, i'm happy with it.
Hey, why don't you guys add more memory to your iphone. Oh wait. You cant. Why don't you get insurance for it? Oh wait. Sorry I forgot, you can't. Send me a picture message would ya? Oh, damnit my bad again.
I can trash your device just as you can trash mine, at the end of the day we both still dislike the other device and are happy with ours.
You idiots are impossible to reason with because if you don't like it then its wrong.
I'm out of this thread, not gonna waste my time on the morons who's phone does everything. Too bad it doesn't get you dates :rolleyes:
the_phoenix612
03-23-2009, 12:24 AM
You guys can say what you want about the dare, i'm happy with it.
Hey, why don't you guys add more memory to your iphone. Oh wait. You cant. Why don't you get insurance for it? Oh wait. Sorry I forgot, you can't. Send me a picture message would ya? Oh, damnit my bad again.
I can trash your device just as you can trash mine, at the end of the day we both still dislike the other device and are happy with ours.
You idiots are impossible to reason with because if you don't like it then its wrong.
I'm out of this thread, not gonna waste my time on the morons who's phone does everything. Too bad it doesn't get you dates :rolleyes:
erm.
you CAN get insurance, or as good as, from apple...
and you can send picture messages, *******. either jailbroken or with the 3.0...
Slim-Rob
03-23-2009, 12:37 AM
erm.
you CAN get insurance, or as good as, from apple...
and you can send picture messages, *******. either jailbroken or with the 3.0...
maybe now you can get insurance, but it wasn't available when the phone first launched. and don't even get into a discussion with me about service for damaged iPhones, i deal with plenty of customers who switch from the iPhone to verizon because they can't get their phone fixed by apple.
and great they are finally coming out with the ability to do MMS or you could have hacked the phone to make it do it?
You are making the iPhone look worse now buddy. Just stop already. I admit its a great device, do you want me to suck its **** or something? Jesus its not the best phone in the world, it IS better than the dare. The only reason i brought up the dare was because it can do things the iPhone cant. The iphone can do things the dare can't, and one if the biggest things with the iphon is the ability to add all the applications. THAT is what sets it apart. Nothing that comes with it, but how much you can customize it.
rwilleby
03-23-2009, 04:30 AM
Reality check... The iPhone does not have some of the features a user would like it to have that some other phones have as standard features... I'm not aware of any damage/lost phone insurance available from Apple... Amex, maybe or some other third party...
The net is that Apple IS making progress with the feature set and the iPhone DID offer some features that were not available on other phones at the time it was introduced (large touch screen, no buttons, etc.)... Since Apple didn't copy or use someone else's OS I guess they thought that it was more important to get the product to market first and then add the additional features later...
Cut n' Paste:
The iPod Observer has the details of a recent research report from Generator Research, in which the company says that Apple will have a 40 percent share of the global smartphone market by 2013, a substantial increase from its current position. Apple is described as having the "best platform" and "best-looking roadmap," both of which will entice consumers in the next few years. Generator believes that Apple could sell up to 77 million (no, that's not a typo) iPhones in 2013, which would make a drop of two or three million iPhones between Q3 2008 and Q4 2008 quite unmemorable.
Of course this IS by a Citigroup analyst so who knows what might happen! :)
RedRage00
03-23-2009, 07:50 AM
maybe now you can get insurance, but it wasn't available when the phone first launched. and don't even get into a discussion with me about service for damaged iPhones, i deal with plenty of customers who switch from the iPhone to verizon because they can't get their phone fixed by apple.
and great they are finally coming out with the ability to do MMS or you could have hacked the phone to make it do it?
You are making the iPhone look worse now buddy. Just stop already. I admit its a great device, do you want me to suck its **** or something? Jesus its not the best phone in the world, it IS better than the dare. The only reason i brought up the dare was because it can do things the iPhone cant. The iphone can do things the dare can't, and one if the biggest things with the iphon is the ability to add all the applications. THAT is what sets it apart. Nothing that comes with it, but how much you can customize it.
Your beef with the iPhone is that its made by Apple. That was obvious when you stated that "if the iPhone wasn't made by Apple it would be just another phone" Pied then asked you why people aren't running out to buy their macbooks?
The iPhone is the best phone out there PERIOD (and I've had every single phone made probably). And the people usually hating on it are the ones that hate Apple or the people that want to rebel against what others are doing because they wanna feel unique. You're loyal to Verizon because you work for them. Get over yourself and get one. You know you want one lol. I have a friend that works for Sprint and he has an iPhone and loves it LOL
rwilleby
03-23-2009, 08:13 AM
Your beef with the iPhone is that its made by Apple. That was obvious when you stated that "if the iPhone wasn't made by Apple it would be just another phone" Pied then asked you why people aren't running out to buy their macbooks?
The iPhone is the best phone out there PERIOD (and I've had every single phone made probably). And the people usually hating on it or the ones that hate Apple or the people that want to rebel against what others are doing because they wanna feel unique. Your loyal to Verizon because you work for them. Get over yourself and get one. You know you want one lol. I have a friend that works for Sprint and he has an iPhone and loves it LOL
Ha! I read that into the post as well... Long live the iPhone...
Notice how EVERY thread with anything about Apple is hijacked by the haters? I must say that Steve-o's rock graphic was pretty funny... and, well, accurate too! Ha!
the_phoenix612
03-23-2009, 05:30 PM
it is nice.
could you always scroll left from the main app page and get to a search box?
I can't find tether anywhere. Do you know where it is?
it is nice.
could you always scroll left from the main app page and get to a search box?
I can't find tether anywhere. Do you know where it is?
No. It is a new feature. Spotlight.
It is not user accessible.
stevefoxsc
03-23-2009, 06:12 PM
Why do you think that is the case? Why so many sales for the iphone because it's made by Apple, but not so much the personal computers?
it is, its a "cool" thing to have.
I've seen way better mp3's phones yadda yadda than apple. And i know the mentality because i was there years ago, so many decent sales men tried to assit me in buying something of quality but i wanted the name brand product.
Apple is the same as majority of other products just selling them for more because they can. I'm more of a research guy i'm not paying 200$ for something if something for 30$ can do the same and more.
stevefoxsc
03-23-2009, 06:15 PM
erm.
you CAN get insurance, or as good as, from apple...
and you can send picture messages, *******. either jailbroken or with the 3.0...
add ons make everything the same, the point tech noob newfa* is that it couldn't with out.
I can go out and get a phone, but if i have to get addons to just to make a phone call thats diff.
it is, its a "cool" thing to have.
I've seen way better mp3's phones yadda yadda than apple. And i know the mentality because i was there years ago, so many decent sales men tried to assit me in buying something of quality but i wanted the name brand product.
Apple is the same as majority of other products just selling them for more because they can. I'm more of a research guy i'm not paying 200$ for something if something for 30$ can do the same and more.
Is the marketing strategy from Apple different on ipod/iphones than on their PC's?
Is the target audience different?
it is, its a "cool" thing to have.
I've seen way better mp3's phones yadda yadda than apple. And i know the mentality because i was there years ago, so many decent sales men tried to assit me in buying something of quality but i wanted the name brand product.
Apple is the same as majority of other products just selling them for more because they can. I'm more of a research guy i'm not paying 200$ for something if something for 30$ can do the same and more.
I would really like to see these phones that are better multimedia phones than the iPhone. Do share.
stevefoxsc
03-23-2009, 06:23 PM
Is the marketing strategy from Apple different on ipod/iphones than on their PC's?
Is the target audience different?
Buy my product and you're cool is basically what the pc seems to be marketing.
Iphone/ipod yeah. The iphone ipod stay advertise on the web way more than what you would see on tv. As far as advertising with these 2 far different but try to keep minor similarities in them, that being music.
stevefoxsc
03-23-2009, 06:42 PM
I would really like to see these phones that are better multimedia phones than the iPhone. Do share.
http://www.phonemag.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/samsung_sprint_instinct_1.jpg
http://www.mobile-t-mobile.com/uimg/nokia-n98.jpg
http://amaelstromofthought.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/blackberry_thunder_9500.jpg
http://www.cellphones.ca/news/upload/Sony%20Bravia.jpg
iphone not bad it just missed some simple features which many people enjoy it.
rwilleby
03-23-2009, 07:54 PM
All I've got to say is that the chicks, and the dudes if you're so inclined, love the iPhone... That alone makes it worth the techno-sacrifice... :)
Slim-Rob
03-23-2009, 08:31 PM
Some people love the iPhone. Some people hate it. I see things for what they truly are.
You guys are so stuck on your iPhone being the greatest you don't see the other devices that have already surpassed it.
Like i Have said multiple times, the iPhone is a great device. So how am I a hater? I'm just stating, just like Steve is, that there are devices out there that are just as good in most aspects.
There probably isn't a device out there that has as many applications available. That makes it good.
Also, rwilleby, insurance is now available through AT&T for the iPhone, I looked it up last night.
Sorry if I got ya'lls panties in a wad, just trying to keep reality around here...
BTW like I said I've known many people who HATE the iPhone.
Some people love the iPhone. Some people hate it. I see things for what they truly are.
You guys are so stuck on your iPhone being the greatest you don't see the other devices that have already surpassed it.
Like i Have said multiple times, the iPhone is a great device. So how am I a hater? I'm just stating, just like Steve is, that there are devices out there that are just as good in most aspects.
There probably isn't a device out there that has as many applications available. That makes it good.
Also, rwilleby, insurance is now available through AT&T for the iPhone, I looked it up last night.
Sorry if I got ya'lls panties in a wad, just trying to keep reality around here...
BTW like I said I've known many people who HATE the iPhone.
Oh please. See things as they truly are? What a joke. You work for Verizon and are pathetically biased towards them and THEIR devices on everything you type.
If there was a better phone out on the market right now I would own it and it wouldn't matter who carrier. Right now the only phone that even competes with the iPhone pound for pound is the yet to be released Palm Pre. I have seen no phone here that matches the features, usability, performance, and add-on ability on the iPhone and if there was a phone tightwad Verizon certainly wouldn't be the company to carry it. The Storm is a joke. The click through screen is a massive failure only surpassed by their price minimums on the application store that will effectively kill all fun cheap games that make the iPhone a fun cheap gaming device.
There is no device that has surpassed it in overall function, usability, features, expandability, etc. There are phones that do some things better than the iPhone but there is absolutely NOTHING that can do everything, as a package, as well as the iPhone. If that phone DID exist the iPhone wouldn't continue tearing away market share from RIM.
RedRage00
03-23-2009, 09:50 PM
Oh please. See things as they truly are? What a joke. You work for Verizon and are pathetically biased towards them and THEIR devices on everything you type.
If there was a better phone out on the market right now I would own it and it wouldn't matter who carrier. Right now the only phone that even competes with the iPhone pound for pound is the yet to be released Palm Pre. I have seen no phone here that matches the features, usability, performance, and add-on ability on the iPhone and if there was a phone tightwad Verizon certainly wouldn't be the company to carry it. The Storm is a joke. The click through screen is a massive failure only surpassed by their price minimums on the application store that will effectively kill all fun cheap games that make the iPhone a fun cheap gaming device.
There is no device that has surpassed it in overall function, usability, features, expandability, etc. There are phones that do some things better than the iPhone but there is absolutely NOTHING that can do everything, as a package, as well as the iPhone. If that phone DID exist the iPhone wouldn't continue tearing away market share from RIM.
Couldn't have said it better myself. These posters act like the only reason we have the iPhone is because Apple makes it and we want to be "cool". I'm 26 almost 27 years old...why do I want to be cool? I am not in middle school. I've had blackberries,Palm, and every other phone possible and nothing compares to the iPhone. I don't care that Apple makes it....hell, if it had a T-Mobile logo on the back I'd still buy it. It's just a great phone.
the_phoenix612
03-23-2009, 10:58 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself. These posters act like the only reason we have the iPhone is because Apple makes it and we want to be "cool". I'm 26 almost 27 years old...why do I want to be cool? I am not in middle school. I've had blackberries,Palm, and every other phone possible and nothing compares to the iPhone. I don't care that Apple makes it....hell, if it had a T-Mobile logo on the back I'd still buy it. It's just a great phone.
everyone (including the idiot who made that iphone-rock graphic) is obsessed with what the iPhone DOESN'T have, but the problem is that the greatest thing about the iPhone is its user interface, its ease of use. Everything is intuitive, I've not once had to look up how to do something, it's all exactly what you'd think it would be.
Its the unquantifiable greatness of this phone.
stevefoxsc
03-23-2009, 11:33 PM
everyone (including the idiot who made that iphone-rock graphic) is obsessed with what the iPhone DOESN'T have, but the problem is that the greatest thing about the iPhone is its user interface, its ease of use. Everything is intuitive, I've not once had to look up how to do something, it's all exactly what you'd think it would be.
Its the unquantifiable greatness of this phone.
features bunch of other phones have?
Cool tell moms to buy you the next hot item.
Deuce
the_phoenix612
03-23-2009, 11:39 PM
features bunch of other phones have?
Cool tell moms to buy you the next hot item.
Deuce
sorry, what?
*directs stevefox to the thread where we are teaching mojo all about grammar*
stevefoxsc
03-23-2009, 11:42 PM
sorry, what?
*directs stevefox to the thread where we are teaching mojo all about grammar*
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! You got me there!
features bunch of other phones have?
Cool tell moms to buy you the next hot item.
Deuce
It's too bad the world doesn't have more people like you who could have stopped the 18,000,000 poor sheep from getting ripped off on their iPhone purchases. If only they could have been made aware of all the other phones out there that do EVERYTHING the iPhone can do, except way better, for cheaper.
Oh please guide me. I am so lost as a consumer.
stevefoxsc
03-23-2009, 11:49 PM
It's too bad the world doesn't have more people like you who could have stopped the 18,000,000 poor sheep from getting ripped off on their iPhone purchases. If only they could have been made aware of all the other phones out there that do EVERYTHING the iPhone can do, except way better, for cheaper.
Oh please guide me. I am so lost as a consumer.
you dont need me to stop sheeps from getting ripped off, you need aggy for that.
you dont need me to stop sheeps from getting ripped off, you need aggy for that.
If only I could be as informed and educated about hardware and software as you.
stevefoxsc
03-24-2009, 12:32 AM
If only I could be as informed and educated about hardware and software as you.
google is serious business.
Slim-Rob
03-24-2009, 12:48 AM
Oh please. See things as they truly are? What a joke. You work for Verizon and are pathetically biased towards them and THEIR devices on everything you type. I don't like the storm, hence the reason I haven't compared it to the iPhone. IMHO there is nothing that compares to the iPhone. That doesn't make it the best device though. Educate me on what the iPhone does that no other device will do, instead of telling me I'm a stupid biased individual who can't see past the Verizon shades. Because so far that's all any of you have done. "The iPhone is the best thing to ever make it to the market. Nothing competes. It's the best thats why 18 million have been sold" Motorola shipped out more than 120 MILLION Razr V3s. Tell me that phone isn't a piece of crap. Tell me what the iPhone does so much better, convince me that I want one.
If there was a better phone out on the market right now I would own it and it wouldn't matter who carrier. Right now the only phone that even competes with the iPhone pound for pound is the yet to be released Palm Pre. I have seen no phone here that matches the features, usability, performance, and add-on ability on the iPhone and if there was a phone tightwad Verizon certainly wouldn't be the company to carry it. The Storm is a joke. The click through screen is a massive failure only surpassed by their price minimums on the application store that will effectively kill all fun cheap games that make the iPhone a fun cheap gaming device.
There is no device that has surpassed it in overall function, usability, features, expandability, etc. There are phones that do some things better than the iPhone but there is absolutely NOTHING that can do everything, as a package, as well as the iPhone. If that phone DID exist the iPhone wouldn't continue tearing away market share from RIM.
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I can't find a sales figure total for the storm so far, but it was around 500k in the first month. Thats not important though, i'm just curious. Like I said, I don't compare the iPhone to the Storm nor do I like either.
Top Phones according to Phone Arena:
According to users:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/top-user-rated-phones-1.html
if you look on page 3, thats where the iphone is. 4 out of 5.
According to the Editor:
Balanced Phones:
1. Samsung INNOV8
2. Samsung Pixon
3. LG Renoir
4. Samsung Omnia
5. Nokia N82
Business Phones:
1. HTC Touch Pro
2. Nokia E90 Communicator
3. Nokia E71
4. HTC Touch HD
Multimedia Phones:
1. Samsung Pixon
2. Samsung Omnia
3. Apple iPhone 3G
4. LG Renoir
5. Nokia N96
Camera Phones:
1. Samsung Pixon
2. Nokia N82
3. Samnsung INNOV8
4. Sony Ericsson C905
5. LG Renoir
Stylish Phones:
1. Nokia 8800 Carbon Arte
2. Samsung Giorgio Armani
3. HTC Touch Diamond
4. LG KF510
5. Apple iPhone 3G
QWERTY Phones (N/A for iPhone)
1. HTC Touch Pro
2. T-Mobile G1
3. Nokia E90 Communicator
4. Nokia E71
5. LG KT610
Budget Phones (also N/A for iPhone)
1. Sony Ericsson G502
2. Nokia 5310 XpressMusic
3. Samsung SGH-L770
4. Nokia 7210 Supernova
5. Sony Ericsson S500
Where's the number 1 spot?
Another thing I think is cool, although unrelated to the iPhone is the Verizon HUB. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFE1kf_t-hY&feature=player_embedded
rwilleby
03-24-2009, 05:26 AM
They (Other folks) tried that HUB product 20 years ago as a spin off from Compaq... Seems to me that the computer on my desk, in my truck, on my iPhone... kind of does the same thing... Hmmmm...
On iPhone insurance... show me where that info is... this article says they don't...
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/161639/nocommit_iphone_priced_to_fail.html
I sure would like to have it...
RedRage00
03-24-2009, 11:12 AM
People make a big deal out of MMS but its really not that big of a deal to me.
Almost everyone I know has some type of smartphone with email on it whether it be blackberry or Palm or the iPhone, etc. So I have no problems emailing them a picture or them emailing me a picture back. The ONLY person that I have trouble with is my 57 year old mother because she is still old school and has a flip phone lol. She barely learned how to text a few months ago. So, ONE person out of the 100s of people I know doesn't email on their phone.
And even then, I can still send a picture to my mom by using hernumber@tmomail.net or something like that. She gets them just fine. She loves the photos I send from football games up here. :D
stevefoxsc
03-24-2009, 11:15 AM
Stylish Phones:
2. Samsung Giorgio Armani
i need one of those to match my suit :p
Slim-Rob
03-24-2009, 12:11 PM
i need one of those to match my suit :p
lol some of those phones were ******
also, this HUB is actually very useful. 20 Years ago technology was no where near what it is today.
edit: It's been nearly 12 hours and counting, what do you iPhoneBoys have to combat the weak list I posted which shows the iPhone at number 1 a total of 0 times? Hell when they did a direct comparison of iPhone, Dare, Instinct, Vu, the Instinct won that one...
Like I've said multiple times, I don't like the iPhone BUT I do agree it's a great device.
lol some of those phones were ******
also, this HUB is actually very useful. 20 Years ago technology was no where near what it is today.
My mother is getting the HUB or she wants to get it.
Slim-Rob
03-24-2009, 12:16 PM
My mother is getting the HUB or she wants to get it.
the verizon hub? It's pretty cool I play with the one in our store all the time
the verizon hub? It's pretty cool I play with the one in our store all the time
Yeah. She has Time Warner for her phone, internet, and cable TV at the house and Verizon for cell phone. I have been telling her to switch to Fios for a while but when she saw a commercial for the HUB I guess she decided to finally go ahead and do it or at least go talk to the Verizon people.
Slim-Rob
03-24-2009, 12:24 PM
Yeah. She has Time Warner for her phone, internet, and cable TV at the house and Verizon for cell phone. I have been telling her to switch to Fios for a while but when she saw a commercial for the HUB I guess she decided to finally go ahead and do it or at least go talk to the Verizon people.
Thats cool. The only problem I see with HUB is that you have to have broadband already, which isn't a bad deal if Verizon offers it in your area. But when you go to combining TWC and the HUB, I wonder about the cost efficiency. TWC does bundles that give you cable/internet/phone for a discounted rate. Is that rate lower than the 34.99 a month for the HUB? Granted the HUB can do a whole bunch more than a standard home telephone, but still the biggest question in my mind is cost
lol some of those phones were ******
also, this HUB is actually very useful. 20 Years ago technology was no where near what it is today.
edit: It's been nearly 12 hours and counting, what do you iPhoneBoys have to combat the weak list I posted which shows the iPhone at number 1 a total of 0 times? Hell when they did a direct comparison of iPhone, Dare, Instinct, Vu, the Instinct won that one...
Like I've said multiple times, I don't like the iPhone BUT I do agree it's a great device.
I'm a G1 guy.
Slim-Rob
03-24-2009, 12:28 PM
I'm a G1 guy.
How do you like it? I'm sure it's very customizable, the one I played with had pretty much nothing on it, I was disappointed.
Lots of stuff for it, but mainly use it for the internet/email functions.
It's a bit heavy for my taste, but got a good eal and I am locked into TMobile.
Thats cool. The only problem I see with HUB is that you have to have broadband already, which isn't a bad deal if Verizon offers it in your area. But when you go to combining TWC and the HUB, I wonder about the cost efficiency. TWC does bundles that give you cable/internet/phone for a discounted rate. Is that rate lower than the 34.99 a month for the HUB? Granted the HUB can do a whole bunch more than a standard home telephone, but still the biggest question in my mind is cost
Well maybe you can answer this question.
I am trying to help her out and I'm checking out the Fios Bundles online. The one she would be most interested in would be the "good" or "better" Fios bundles and probably the "better" (dad likes to watch HD). Those deals come with internet, television, and home phone. If she wants the HUB how will that effect the pricing and do you think they might cut her a deal if she orders a Fios Bundle, the HUB, and is a five year Verizon cell phone customer?
She won't have a mixture of TWC and Verizon. If she can't go all Verizon she won't save any money so she won't do it.
And I didn't respond to the iPhone stuff because I don't really want to argue about it anymore. You like your phones I'll like mine. Agree to disagree. No one is changing minds here.
Slim-Rob
03-24-2009, 12:38 PM
Well maybe you can answer this question.
I am trying to help her out and I'm checking out the Fios Bundles online. The one she would be most interested in would be the "good" or "better" Fios bundles and probably the "better" (dad likes to watch HD). Those deals come with internet, television, and home phone. If she wants the HUB how will that effect the pricing and do you think they might cut her a deal if she orders a Fios Bundle, the HUB, and is a five year Verizon cell phone customer?
She won't have a mixture of TWC and Verizon. If she can't go all Verizon she won't save any money so she won't do it.
And I didn't respond to the iPhone stuff because I don't really want to argue about it anymore. You like your phones I'll like mine. Agree to disagree. No one is changing minds here.
On your last sentence, I'll agree to that and stop. I like the iPhone it's just not for me.
As far as the Fios bundle, hub, and wireless, I'm not too sure. Down here in San Antonio we don't have Verizon Landline so I don't deal with much of that, in fact Verizon Communications and Verizon Landline operate as 2 seperate companies for the most part. I know you can get "OneBill" which is where your landline and wireless bills are together, but as far as a bundle i'm not too sure. I'd advise her to call Verizon and have her talk to someone there. Keep in mind, HUB is part of the Wireless division. I'm sure if she had Verizon everything they'd giver her some kind of deal
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